Rally d'Italia-Sardegna

[jonkka]

Let's get this thread started as well.

Can someone confirm that driver under alias "Dedo" in car #80 is Alfredo de Domicis?

[J4MIE]

well I am all packed and ready to go..... but I am not excited at all at the moment :s

[pino]

Can someone confirm that driver under alias "Dedo" in car #80 is Alfredo de Domicis?

Yes he's ;)



well I am all packed and ready to go..... but I am not excited at all at the moment :s

You will be excited as soon as you get there, count on that :D Have a great time mate :up:

[jonkka]

Thank you, Pino!

[Josti]

I'll be following both the Jr's (Weijs and v/d Heuvel) in the Group N class. First outing of six this year. Up front is pretty much set already I think...

[Roy]

I'll be following both the Jr's (Weijs and v/d Heuvel) in the Group N class. First outing of six this year. Up front is pretty much set already I think...

What are the plan of them this year?

How old they are?
I know last year Weijs Jr was driving Fiesta ST in Rally Wales GB. Not bad result.

[Mickey T]

i'll be there this time tomorrow...

[Josti]

What are the plan of them this year?

How old they are?
I know last year Weijs Jr was driving Fiesta ST in Rally Wales GB. Not bad result.

Besides the Dutch Championship, they will drive 6 WRC rallies, including Sardinia, Finland, Germany, Catalunya, Ireland and Wales for the "Rallying 4 Holland" team, both driving Group N evo's (evo 8 and 9). Finally some serious effort from the Netherlands.

Weijs Jr. is only 20 or 21, v/d Heuvel 28 I think. For the Dutch members, There will be a special broadcast about their performance in Sardinia this Saturday on RTL RR.

[Roy]

Dank je wel Josti!

[ZequeArgentina]

We can also watch Villagra as second Munchi´s car.
It will be his first contact with the Focus (well first time in a WRC car), first time in Sardegna, and new co-driver (Jorge Perez Companc, co owner of Munchis).

Anyway he is the reigning Argentinean Champion (for 5th time)so I expect "reasonable" speed in this first rally, and better pace from the next ones.

[JAM]

Did Carlsson will enter the rally?

[alleskids]

Carlsson will probarly only drive over the strat ramp so Kronos will not be kicked out of the MT championship :( .

[MHjerpe]

Any one at the Shake ?

[Donney]

well I am all packed and ready to go..... but I am not excited at all at the moment :s

Why not? It is a WRC rally :eek:

[Corny]

Why not? It is a WRC rally :eek:

Is a WRC rally exciting nowadays :D ?

[jonas_mcrae]

shakedown times?

[Xeroid]

Been checking out the stages on Google Earth, not bad, the northern area above Oblia toward Arzachena has got good high res shots, recent satellite pix so you can just about drive Stage 16-13 Giovanni. Just got to use your imagination and you can almost 'see' the cars on stage.
I've already picked the photo spots I'd want to be.

[Catiocha7]

Any web could give us shakedown times? please

[Xeroid]

Just been checking entry list.
I thought Galli was out of WRC, no funds, he is listed on there as is Duval
Also Gardemeister and Hanninen driving Mitsi WRC.
Anyone able to confirm all or any of these are driving ?

Just makes a change from following the Loeb procession to see something other than Cits, Fords or Subs.
C'mon Garde, give them all a scare

[noel157]

Just been checking entry list.
I thought Galli was out of WRC, no funds, he is listed on there as is Duval
Also Gardemeister and Hanninen driving Mitsi WRC.
Anyone able to confirm all or any of these are driving ?

Just makes a change from following the Loeb procession to see something other than Cits, Fords or Subs.
C'mon Garde, give them all a scare

Gigi has run out funds and Duval won't be out until Greece.

[Donney]

Is a WRC rally exciting nowadays :D ?

Not as much as we would like but pretty good nevertheless.

[MHjerpe]

Usually we have shakedown news right away... but now... nothing at all :( hmm what is happening..

[GigiGalliNo1]

Well, the Jordan Rally got me all pumped up and I didn't even know who anyone was cept for maybe 3-4-5 drivers and the fact WRR were there! Here..... wat's going on?

[Jaanus]

Just been checking entry list.
I thought Galli was out of WRC, no funds, he is listed on there as is Duval
Also Gardemeister and Hanninen driving Mitsi WRC.
Anyone able to confirm all or any of these are driving ?

Just makes a change from following the Loeb procession to see something other than Cits, Fords or Subs.
C'mon Garde, give them all a scare

I can confirm Carlsson, Galli and Duval will not start the rally, others like Gardemeister and Hänninen will start.

[Rajle]

shakedown:
1. Sordo 1:54,3
2. Hirvonen 1:54,4
3. Gronholm 1:54,6
4. Hänninen 1:55,3
5. Solberg P. 1:55,5
6. Loeb 1:55,7
7. Gardemeister 1:55,8
8. Atkinson 1:55,9
9. Solberg H. 1:56,8
=. Wilson 1:56,8
11. Latvala 1:57,0
12. Companc 1:57,2
13. Stohl 1:57,3
14. Kopecký 1:57,4
15. Villagra 1:58,8
=. MacHale 1:58,8
17. Ostberg 1:59,9
18. Carlsson 2:18,6

[GigiGalliNo1]

are you serious? where did this top list of 8 drivers come from? is this the best rally entry list this yeaR!? :o

[Xeroid]

Hanninen and Garde right up there !
Go the Mitis's !!
(just for the hell of it)
Gidday (night) GG1
Good chatting with ya

[GigiGalliNo1]

same xeroid! hav a good one :)

[jonas_mcrae]

so carlsson starting or not?
well done the mitsus, hope they get some reliability to keep up

[1LM1]

Thanks Rajle.
I didn't know Carlsson was still there. Sordo and Hirvonen are already showing a strong pace. Interesting.

[Livewireshock]

The times look no different for a very short super special stage. Under 2 minutes for most drivers. Not going to show seconds per kilometres differences. Plus shorter stage may have differing characteristics to the rest of the stages.

[1LM1]

The times look no different for a very short super special stage. Under 2 minutes for most drivers. Not going to show seconds per kilometres differences. Plus shorter stage may have differing characteristics to the rest of the stages.

Very true.

[JAM]

Maybe Carlsson has to start the rally to avoid penalties to Kronos, and in that situation he must do also the shakedown. That could explain his bad time.

[A.F.F.]

Is a WRC rally exciting nowadays :D ?

You hit the spot Corny. If you have the chance to follow it live on stages, yes it's exciting. From you PC, not really anymore :mark:

[animrallye]

Matthew Wilson: “Everything is ok , I hope to finish well and make the team proud”.
:p

[dumb]

so where is full shakedown results?

[Sulland]

Hanninen has been impressive in the Lancer so far, hopes he is able to finish this time !

[SubaruNorway]

so where is full shakedown results?

http://www.ewrc.cz/2006/show.asp?clanek=5932
Just the wrc guys haven't seen anything more

[Roy]

Maybe Carlsson has to start the rally to avoid penalties to Kronos, and in that situation he must do also the shakedown. That could explain his bad time.

The rumour is to start the rally (over the ramp), but not to competition, because the money is over. If he not start Kronos have yo pay €225.000.

[A.F.F.]

Hanninen has been impressive in the Lancer so far, hopes he is able to finish this time !

Excuse me but when has Hänninen been impressive with Lancer WRC ?

[jonas_mcrae]

some pics from the shakedown
http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2007/gallery/02/
and from the service park
http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2007/gallery/01/

clearly there is carlssons Xsara...

[noel157]

Happy or what?

[ZequeArgentina]

Carlsson is not required to do shakdown if he only intends to pass the ramp. If he does shakedown he will probably do the rally. (hope so)

[Wim_Impreza]

Carlsson can't do the rally, because he hasn't enough money for again a drive by Kronos.

[jonkka]

Carlsson is not required to do shakdown if he only intends to pass the ramp. If he does shakedown he will probably do the rally. (hope so)

He is. Shakedown is mandatory for all priority drivers and official start is only tonight, he has to go through the motions until that.

[ZequeArgentina]

He is. Shakedown is mandatory for all priority drivers and official start is only tonight, he has to go through the motions until that.

I did not know that. OK if that is the case, it matches with previous information: Carlsson is not doing the rally. Whata pitty,being there, withthe Xsara, doing shakedown, ramp and that is all.

[Finni]

Excuse me but when has Hänninen been impressive with Lancer WRC ?

Comparison is naturally done in relation to other newbies like Östberg etc. In that respect he has shown excellent stage times.

[grugsticles]

On the topic of shakedown, why is it manditory for a driver to partake in Shakedown if they dont intend to do the rally?
Its a pointless exercise IMO. The team spends all the money to get the car, equiptment and personel there so why not do what they entended and compete.
That doesnt make good business sence for sponsors!

[Micke_VOC]

Carlsson is not required to do shakdown if he only intends to pass the ramp. If he does shakedown he will probably do the rally. (hope so)

Can say that for sure that Daniel gonna retire after the startramp.

[Rally Hokkaido]

On the topic of shakedown, why is it manditory for a driver to partake in Shakedown if they dont intend to do the rally?
Its a pointless exercise IMO. The team spends all the money to get the car, equiptment and personel there so why not do what they entended and compete.
That doesnt make good business sence for sponsors!

I think this has been explained earlier in this thread however let's try again, in detail:
1/ Shakedown is compulsory for all P1 & P2 drivers entered in a WRC round. 2/Kronos is a 2007 registered Manufacturer Team (MT) and, as such, must enter two cars (with P2 drivers) in a minimum of ten rallies this season.
3/Daniel was to drive five(?) of those and was nominated for Sardinia about five weeks ago. Now, he doesn't appear to have enough money to pay Kronos for the drive.
4/Kronos don't want to break their contract with the FIA (a fine and loss of points), even if it costs them extra $X to bring Daniel's car to the rally.
5/The car will probably 'breakdown' on the liaison to the first special stage, which will save Kronos the costs of tyres, worn components, etc.
6/As long as it crosses the ramp at the ceremonial start it will have been deemed to have started the rally.
OK?

[Livewireshock]

Still a sad way to be.

Kronos have a contractual agreement with the FIA for 10 rallies in 2007

Carlsson had a contractual agreement with Kronos to compete in 5 of those ten.

So in order to save face & not be slapped with penalties & fines, a fine charade is created. Unless some generous benefactor happens to grace Carlsson's way in the next few hours.

[grugsticles]

Sorry, I guess I should have checked the thread before asking.

Its sad, but surely there must have been some young hopeful in Kronos' reach that could have afforded the drive.

[MHjerpe]

So the Grönholm/Loeb battle continues today... ohh WRC is it called :)

[Halvis]

Norways largest newspaper, VG, has an interview with Petter Solberg today, where Petter says that they during recent tests, they have identified (and partly corrected) some problems with the Impreza. He is quoted on that the car has gotten so much better that they will fight for victory in Sardinia.

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=167313

Whether this is VG that puts words into Petter's mouth or if it's true, I don't know - but I surely hope it's correct, more people to fight for victory would be great.

Well, surely we soon will see. Half an hour to rally start?

[grugsticles]

Half an hour?!?!?!?!?
****, soo much to do i sooooo litle time.

Go Petter! Go you good thing!!! Go, Go, Go!!!

[MHjerpe]

It would be wery wery fun if Petter could challange them a bit.. and the mitsus could get good results..

[MHjerpe]

And we have Gooo.. Loeb is out on the stage...

[KF1800]

Could I please have the splits page? Thanks

[harriswrc]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=7&results=1

[Finni]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=7&stage=1&results=1

Is thgere any other split links, please?

[KF1800]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=7&results=1

Thanks ;)

[jonkka]

So in order to save face & not be slapped with penalties & fines, a fine charade is created.

This is by no means a first time. In fact, it is an old practice that has been used by competitors due to regulations that force a minimum number of starts taken (overall or say, one overseas) in order to be classified in the championship. They hire local cheap car, cross the ramp and go home. Champions has been crowned this way.

[Finni]

split times are almost stuck.. too slow..

[jonkka]

Its sad, but surely there must have been some young hopeful in Kronos' reach that could have afforded the drive.

Kronos can change their no 2 driver anytime they want. So, let the hopefuls with money line up, the door is open!

[euskalteam]

Which is the gap between cars? 2 or 3 minutes?

[jonkka]

Should be two.

[Mauri A]

Should be two.
Half an hour. if you are reading the splits!

[teufel]

Morning all, Loeb first, splits stucked, everything as usual ;)

[MHjerpe]

Is WRC radio following Sardinia or is it just bad music ?

[jonkka]

La-la-laaa

[animrallye]

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=7&stage=1&results=1

Is thgere any other split links, please?
http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/

[euskalteam]

Half an hour. if you are reading the splits!

:laugh: :laugh: :up:

[Glee]

split times are almost stuck.. too slow..

Loeb is so quick that he has started SS2 already. And the spilts stops when the next SS starts :-)

[kleisj]

Aaaa, still no info!

[jonkka]

The most exciting moment of the rally, the start, and blackout. Shait...

[animrallye]

On wrc.com home page if you look at the countdown, the rally will start in more than 1 hour :D

[SubaruNorway]

Has the rally started ore what, as it said GMT+2 on wrc.com wich is in 30min and only one slpit no rally radio

[MHjerpe]

Should't Loeb be at the end of the stage now...

[Finni]

I wonder what they are doing to rallying. The level of information mediation from rallies has never been very good but now they are deliberately retiring whole sport..

[jonkka]

Italy is GMT+1, afaik

[Finni]

Hirvone on the road. Lol

[Gard]

Has the rally started ore what, as it said GMT+2 on wrc.com wich is in 30min and only one slpit no rally radio
Summertime ;)

[Donney]

Who knows where Loeb should be?

[Rally_Rocks]

Is WRC radio following Sardinia or is it just bad music ?

I've heard that they are not broadcasting this weekend.

There was an interesting chat between Nick Grist and Greg Strange during Rally Jordan. Apparently Strange has been funding Rally Radio for most of this year and he's not got the money to continue.

Looks like that could be it for the season unless someone comes along with some money.

Shame, cos it's not the same without the radio.

[jonkka]

Top 6 times at BFG!

[Donney]

So far Gronholm has been 5 secs faster than Loeb.

[jonkka]

And now at splits too. Look at Latvala!

[amberie]

Holy cow, all the splits appeared at once!

I wonder if Petter had a small problem. But we'll probably have to wait till TV coverage to find out.

[Wim_Impreza]

I wonder what they are doing to rallying. The level of information mediation from rallies has never been very good but now they are deliberately retiring whole sport..

I agree.

[teufel]

Bosse 1st, Petter +4.5, Seb +5.7, Mikko +7.3

[User]

Atkinson second!
I hope he keeps it.

EDIT: Latvala :o

[Donney]

Latvala fastest :s hock:

[Leon]

Latvala!

[teufel]

Whaat? JML almost 13 sec faster than Seb? :up:

[SubaruNorway]

With no rally radio in not botherd to sit here for 10 hours

[Halvis]

On BFG page:

http://www.bfgoodrich.com/racing/AfficheServlet?Rubrique=20060308115470&Langue=EN

You'll see that Marcus took the stage, then Petter (+4.5) then Seb (+5.7), then Hirvonen, Henning and Sordo. The first 5 within 11.1 secs, Sordo +25. Nice to see Petter up there, and NB Henning not slow on SS1 that he usually is, a great sign for me.

[teufel]

joke! Has Henning downgraded tyres or car again? ;)

[Halvis]

On BFG page:

http://www.bfgoodrich.com/racing/AfficheServlet?Rubrique=20060308115470&Langue=EN

You'll see that Marcus took the stage, then Petter (+4.5) then Seb (+5.7), then Hirvonen, Henning and Sordo. The first 5 within 11.1 secs, Sordo +25. Nice to see Petter up there, and NB Henning not slow on SS1 that he usually is, a great sign for me.

Not correct anymore..

[Halvis]

Seems to be loose gravel for the first runners? Might explain the results?

[Mauri A]

Seems to be loose gravel for the first runners? Might explain the results?
Looks like it. With that speed Latvala does not finish the rally. I´m afraid.

[Donney]

Let's trust him, he's got the talent. :up:

[Halvis]

Splits indicate that Petter had a problem. Puncture?

[Rally_Rocks]

It's only the first stage, but is this the first time Latvala has ever had the lead in a WRC event?

[Finni]

Looks like it. With that speed Latvala does not finish the rally. I´m afraid.

Yes, In Sardinia road position matters much.

[animrallye]

Is it the first time Latvala is leading a world rally ?

[Wim_Impreza]

Is it the first time Latvala is leading a world rally ?

Yes, it is.

[jonkka]

Is it the first time Latvala is leading a world rally ?

Yes, it is.

[Donney]

Stage 2 splits are taking their time.

[jonkka]

Double... :eek:

[Wim_Impreza]

Double... :eek:

Indeed. ;)

[pentti]

90% of stages are new.That's good news for Latvala. Still the first stage is old one. So things can even improve for him.

[Halvis]

Stage 2 splits are taking their time.

Not necessarily, SS2 doesn't start until 10.58 :laugh:

[Mauri A]

Villagra too slow, even though first time in a WRC car and in Europe.

[Donney]

So they are taking their time, but not for the supposed reasons :erm:

[pino]

Latvala's leading ? :eek: what a great news :D

[Rally_Rocks]

90% of stages are new.That's good news for Latvala. Still the first stage is old one. So things can even improve for him.

I think its around 50% new stages.

But I agree, it's a great start.

Don't forget that Gronholm was miles quicker than Loeb on stage 1 last year, and we all know who eventually won!

[GigiGalliNo1]

so guessing the rally is underway! just got back from work! how's it all going?

[Donney]

It seems the Subarus have improved their pace, they're faster than both Citroens and Hirvonen and not that far from Gronholm.

:up:

[GigiGalliNo1]

oh does wrc.com not work!? :s

[teufel]

Do we know who leads JRC?

[René]

Do we know who leads JRC?

http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=7&stage=1&results=1&jwrc=1

[GigiGalliNo1]

can some one link me to splits eek sorry :(

***Thanks René!!! :)

[Viking]

Rumour was correct:

Leg.1 : Daniel Carllson (Citroen Xsara Wrc) retired after Service Park

[jonkka]

Aava

[Wim_Impreza]

Rumour was correct:

Leg.1 : Daniel Carllson (Citroen Xsara Wrc) retired after Service Park

It was not only a rumour, Marc van Dalen said it weeks before the start.

[grugsticles]

Gigi: http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=7&stage=2&results=1&jwrc=

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ok so what stage is going on atm? My wrc.com is crapping it self, plus i have slow net, nearly dial up, used the 20gb soooo is really slow from 12 mb/sec... help would be great! :) kthanks.

[Donney]

SS 2 should start sometime soon.

[jonkka]

Like, now!

[teufel]

It seems, except PG and Aava nobody has a word in JRC this year

[SubaruNorway]

Aava infront of Andersson by 12 sec

[kleisj]

Seems to be loose gravel for the first runners? Might explain the results?

Probably, would be logical explanation.

[Wim_Impreza]

It seems, except PG and Aava nobody has a word in JRC this year

Probably also Prokop, but only in the asphalt rallies.

[amberie]

It's official: no Rally Radio for Sardinia or Acropolis.

That Greg Strange funding story must be true, if not strange.

[Livewireshock]

Latvala has won the first stage!!!! Congrats.

Looks like road sweeping has finally slowed Loeb for once. Although I know he'll be back.

[SubaruNorway]

http://www.wrc.com/page/RallyRadio/0,,10111,00.html

Who is Greg Strange again i know ive heard the name before

[jonkka]

Half of the top-8 are Fords

[teufel]

Looks like road sweeping has finally slowed Loeb for once. Although I know he'll be back.

Next stage is my bet

[Mauri A]

Back to normal, unfortunately!

[KF1800]

Interesting to read Stephane Prevot's stage descriptions and comparing them to the results of each stage (i.e which types of stages suit which drivers)... if at all

SS2: A bit easier than Crastazza (SS1), but a tough challenge nevertheless. The first five kilometres are extremely tricky as the road is narrow yet fast and runs between trees. After this difficult start we turn right onto a main road and run on tarmac for around 200m before rejoining the gravel through a narrow gate. Gravel tyres on tarmac aren’t the best combination and judging the correct braking point here isn’t easy. After that there are a lot of square junctions, crests, straights and narrow gates and another tarmac section near the end.""

[GigiGalliNo1]

It's official: no Rally Radio for Sardinia or Acropolis.


Blehhhh better still get my prize from Jordan! :D

[wrc_flipper]

http://www.wrc.com/page/RallyRadio/0,,10111,00.html

Who is Greg Strange again i know ive heard the name before


Greg is the CE of The Broadcasting Company who run World Rally Radio.
http://www.thebroadcastingcompany.com/Contact%20Us.html

[Mauri A]

Sordo faster than Hirvonen, may be because of the 200 metres of tarmac!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Greg is the CE of The Broadcasting Company who run World Rally Radio.
http://www.thebroadcastingcompany.com/Contact%20Us.html

might have to send him a nice letter :) (of support) ((for WRR)) :p

[Donney]

Loeb is back to his usual self, it was fun while it lasted.

[Halvis]

Interesting splits, results back to "normal", except Henning faster than Marcus!

[Viking]

Sordo faster than Hirvonen, may be because of the 200 metres of tarmac!

Henning is also fast , so ... :)

[grugsticles]

Petter 1.8 behind Loab on SS2.
Good buy speed gremlins?

[Livewireshock]

Great, now I have to make weird Scottish rantings myself since I will not hear Collin on World Rally Radio.

I guess the Pirelli dollars earlier in the year were a flash in the pan.

[René]

Something strange with Kopecky ?

[jonkka]

Buy?

[animrallye]

Good time for Henning !

[jonkka]

Latvala leads still - but not for long

[Halvis]

Good time for Henning !

Yes, very promising, as I wrote after SS1, he was much faster than he usually is from the morning. If this keeps up, him being faster towards the evening, it could be a very good rally for him!

[jonas_mcrae]

garde loosing time, sh1t...

[Rajle]

Something strange with Kopecky ?
is any info?

[Viking]

7 lads in 17 seconds :up: Bring back the old “road sweeper-rule”! :laugh:

Only one more stage for Loeb to sweep.

[Wim_Impreza]

is any info?

Even Wilson is faster, very strange. He must have a problem.

[animrallye]

7 lads in 17 seconds :up: Bring back the old “road sweeper-rule”! :laugh:

Only one more stage for Loeb to sweep.
No... Four stages till the end of the leg !

[jonkka]

No... Four stages till the end of the leg !

But only one before they are repeated, hence no sweeping he said.

[Viking]

No... Four stages till the end of the leg !

Last 3 are "re-runs" arent they.

[teufel]

No... Four stages till the end of the leg !

No second loop for these 3 stages?

[Wim_Impreza]

Villagra is not much faster than Raies, Pozzo was a better choice.

[animrallye]

But only one before they are repeated, hence no sweeping he said.
Right :hmph:

[Finni]

I think Marcus might have crashed..

[jonkka]

Do not think dangerous thoughts. Thought-police.

[amberie]

Sometimes the splits don't work for the whole stage--no splits doesn't necessarily mean Marcus is off. *fingers crossed*

[jonas_mcrae]

look at henning fly!

[Livewireshock]

No splits for Gronholm on SS3!?!

[Halvis]

Scary first split for Henning! Don't overdrive!

Marcus might be a GPS problem?

[WRC2006]

Hey Guys

[jonkka]

And now is moment of truth, who'll cross the line next...

[jonkka]

Sordo? wtf...

[jonkka]

Glitch...

[euskalteam]

Something is wrong with the splits.

[Viking]

Henning takes stage win! :up:

[Mauri A]

Something is wrong with the splits.
Sure!

[SubaruNorway]

Working here

[teufel]

JML also good :)

[jonkka]

Looks like Latvala will keep the lead?

[Halvis]

Henning takes stage win! :up:

Wait for Latvala, he's been going faster towards the end of stage...

[animrallye]

Think so !

[MHjerpe]

where is sthol ?

[Halvis]

Wow, Henning took it - great! He also passed Loeb overall!

[Viking]

Wait for Latvala, he's been going faster towards the end of stage...

Why wait :laugh:

[Josti]

Gardemeister lost quite some time. Intresting up front!

[Halvis]

The 5 first within 10.4 secs - that's great news too!

[Mauri A]

What happened to Garde, or is it 2 minutes error in time-keeping?

[GigiGalliNo1]

good stuff henning, sordo, latvala!

and garde?! something happened?

[grugsticles]

We havent seen Hirvoned down in 7th for a while!

[jonkka]

What happened to Garde, or is it 2 minutes error in time-keeping?

Looks like it 'cause he did not lose any more during the stage.

[kakus]

Where is Stohl ?

[Roy]

:wave:

Wow! Stobart Focus' are fast! But what is the problem with Hirvonen?
Is it the aerodynamic?

[Viking]

The Stobart team must be happy now!

[Josti]

The Stobart team must be happy now!

Wilson Jr. on the other hand...

[teufel]

We havent seen Hirvoned down in 7th for a while!

And Loeb fifth? but it all will change in the second loop...

[Livewireshock]

Is the plural of a Focus a Focii?

[jonkka]

Wow, top-7 within 22secs, it's tighter than ... ummm... :eek:

[Mauri A]

And Loeb fifth? but it all will change in the second loop...
Hope not!

[Rajle]

Kopecky - gearbox ?!?

[jonkka]

Something's wrong...

[MHjerpe]

any one have Stohl info ?

[Donney]

Looks like a good rally, let's see what Loeb brings in the next loop. I'm missing a Subaru stage win to boost the team spirits.

[GigiGalliNo1]

yup sure is a intersting rally!

[GigiGalliNo1]

1 J. Latvala 51:45.8
2 M. GrÖnholm +1.5
3 P. Solberg +6.8
4 H. Solberg +9.5
5 S. Loeb +10.4
6 C. Atkinson +20.0
7 M. Hirvonen +21.6
8 D. Sordo +50.7
9 T. Gardemeister +2:50.6

[Viking]

Stage stopped? No more times after Garde.

[wrc_flipper]

might have to send him a nice letter :) (of support) ((for WRR)) :p

Possibly worth sending a letter to International Sportsworld Communicators Ltd feedback@wrc.com as well as The Broadcasting Company.

I would imagine (don't know for sure) but TBC would either have to pay to broadcast the wrc and make money from selling adverts and provide output for other stations (talksport) etc or ISC would pay them to provide the coverage.
Getting 4+ people to each rally with hotels, cars, flights and of course wages plus studios and licensing, must cost a bit!

In either case the money looks to have run out and no radio coverage until possibly Finland :eek:

[animrallye]

ISC-T team is eating in an Olbia's good restaurant, so, no more times :p

[GigiGalliNo1]

and how bought they don't buy songs and don't play them and just have ahh errrrrr just the coverage? like instead of us listening to music whilst in some cases before, someone crashing or the stage stopping and them not reporting anything and us not knowing anything!? ehh...

[MikeD]

I can confirm Carlsson, Galli and Duval will not start the rally, others like Gardemeister and Hänninen will start.

Carlsson did the shake-down and is currently listed as having droped out of SS1 due to a mecanical failure. But so far Crash.net has written that he will start under the super-rally rules. I doubt it though!

[Viking]

At last some stage notes (after ss1)

Car n.1 S.Loeb – D.Elena
Special Stage very narrow, I had to clean the road for all car and I had some problem to keep the trajectory.
Car n. 3 M.Gronholm – T. Rautiainen
I’ve started very strong, even if the surface was full of gravel. I thought I would be much faster than Loeb.
Car n. 4 M. Hirvonen – J. Lehtinen
I’ve been very careful, I’ve lost a lot of time in the narrow section of the track.
Car n. 2 D.Sordo – M.Marti
The car slides, I didn’t risk.
Car n. 7 P.Solberg – P. Milss
I’ve lost a little bit of grip and also few seconds in the final section of the track.
Car n. 10 H. Solberg – C.Menkerud
The engine turned off twice during the special stage.
Car n. 8 C. Atkinson – S. Prevot
Everything was ok , I’m keeping a good rhythm. I’ ve lost some time in the narrow section.
Car n.9 J.Latvala – M.Anttila
I’ve scored the best time because of my good start position. I’ve got a very good feeling with my car. I just have to take advantage of my position today.

more here:
http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2007/pdf/flash_01_gb.pdf

[ZequeArgentina]

Villagra is not much faster than Raies, Pozzo was a better choice.


It is not the style I like, but Villagra alway had a step by step approach, so he will take first day just to know about every new thing, and first rally also, should start delivering something afterwards.

I would have preffered Pozzo as well.

[MHjerpe]

Stohl did't do stage 3?... and there is nowhere to find info about it.. cheees.. even we hardcore fans can't follow the damn sport :(

[Fiorio]

Stohl did't do stage 3?... and there is nowhere to find info about it.. cheees.. even we hardcore fans can't follow the damn sport :(

SS3
M.Sthol-> Troppa polvere a fine prova.

I dont speack italiano...traduzion...

[MHjerpe]

SS3
M.Sthol-> Troppa polvere a fine prova.

I dont speack italiano...traduzion...

and that means ? where did you find it :) ?

[ZequeArgentina]

Sorry double post

[ZequeArgentina]

SS3
M.Sthol-> Troppa polvere a fine prova.

I dont speack italiano...traduzion...

That would be >"too much dust towards the end of the stage"................
So he finished it???

[jonas_mcrae]

sounds like his comment at the end of stage, not like a reason of being out of the rally...

[Fiorio]

Translated -> Too much power to fine test.

[jonas_mcrae]

Translated -> Too much power to fine test.

Naaa Zeque is right it speaks about dust not power

[animrallye]

Zeque's traduction is right, so it seems he finished the stage

[MHjerpe]

Too much powder to fine test.

[N.O.T]

Total massacre on the first run....!!! reminds the good old days....

[MHjerpe]

Too much powder to fine test.

And I get that as... to much dust, not able to complete the stage..

[kleisj]

Total massacre on the first run....!!! reminds the good old days....

Ooo yes

[MHjerpe]

And I get that as... to much dust, not able to complete the stage..

quoting my self here.. but that is strange as he was not on the stage at all.. according to the splits...

[kleisj]

Hirvo, Sordo , Atko need to raise their game.

[animrallye]

IMO, or Italian stage flash or times are :rolleyes:
They write :

Gardemeister : Everything's OK ... + 2 minutes !
Stohl : Too much dust at the end of the stage (not : to complete the stage, fine mean end, not fine)... No time, no splits, no Super Rally time !

EDIT : They write Kopecky went off, crew OK

[pentti]

Stages are actually about 80% new because many of them are run different direction. Latvala was not here last year so it evens out.

[ZequeArgentina]

Looks like those comments could be for another stage

[alpinestar]

The pitstop-website has the story about Carlsson.
http://www.pitstoptv.info/pitstop/?p=1573
Carlsson just took the podium in order to have officially started the rally. By doing that, Kronos Racing will not receive a fine of 225.000 euro for not participating in a rally they nominated.

[Halvis]

BTW, as I suggested earlier, on SS1, Petter got a puncture. He was leading Latvala up to that point - and lost 11.2 secs to the finish. Without that puncture, Petter probably would have led the rally by now.

It will be interesting to see how much faster they (especially Loeb) is on the second run, I have a suspicion that the leaderboard might look otherwise after day one..

[jiipee64]

these results seems OK
they are from WRC .com

[Mauri A]

these results seems OK
they are from WRC .com

Yes, and Garde´s 2 minutes have disappeared.

[jonas_mcrae]

Yes, and Garde´s 2 minutes have disappeared.

well thats some relief

[MHjerpe]

and now Stohls time are there again... strange..

[Christina]

Oh wow! I'm loving the leaderboard at the moment. Jari-matti is driving brilliantly, and he said that today and tomorrow would not be good days for him! i wonder what he will do on sunday then?!

It's good to start a rally with Seb not leading. i like this.

[teufel]

SS4 starting, let's see another dominant second loop from Loeb

[Mauri A]

Bloody GPS!

[KKS]

WTF with Seb?

[Glee]

Who will hold the lead after SS4?

[GigiGalliNo1]

no no no loeb! :p

[kleisj]

No splits for Loeb?

[jacko]

It's good to start a rally with Seb not leading. i like this.

we all :)

[Finni]

Watching Sordo's pace I bet that Seb will beat Marcus by ten seconds in that one as he finnishes the stage.

[jonkka]

Petter got 10sec penalty, drops to fifth o/a

[GigiGalliNo1]

seb disappeard! yay :D lol

[kakus]

Penalty for P. Solberg : 10 seconds

[Mauri A]

Penalty for P. Solberg : 10 seconds
Why, one minute late in TC? Could mean technical problems.

[kleisj]

Real fight in the splits! Nice one!