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F1nKS
11th May 2021, 15:08
I have expanded the the Formula 1 scoring, to better show how the mid-field and bottom are performing. Finishing 20 gets 1 points, 19 gets 2 points all the way up to 11th gets 10 pts.

If you are DNF - 0 points

Positions 1 thru 10, get their normal allotment of points +10pts.

Thru Race 4

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F1nKS
11th May 2021, 15:09
Thru Race 4

1 Hamilton 134
2 Verstappen 120
3 Norris 85
4 Leclerc 80
5 Bottas 77
6 Perez 72
7 Ricciardo 64
8 Sainz 60
9 Ocon 48
10 Stroll 41
11 Gasly 36
12 Giovinazzi 31
13 Tsunoda 28
14 Vettel 28
15 Alonso 27
16 Raikkonen 27
17 Russel 19
18 Schumacher 17
19 Latifi 8
20 Mazepin 8

lmmjvss
11th May 2021, 17:39
Thats interesting. I always thought about that.. Why arent all the cars scoring points?

MotoGP points system is better than F1's IMO:
-_> 25-20-16-13-11-10-9-8-7-6... (Top 15)

BTCC also pay points to the top 15 but its:
--> 20-17-15-13-11-10-9-8...

Indycar pay points for every position, which is also interesting cuz it makes you fight for every possible position. For F1 Im from the 10-6-4-3-2-1 and I love that. It was so easy to calculate back in the day of no internet to follow championship points!

But in the end of the day we all KNOW that in a championship like F1 no one is really fighting for the title except the guys winning races so I'd also be ok with something like... Only the top3 earning points, since its all about that. I'd go with one of these:
--> 6,3,1 ...or 10,6,3 ...or 13,4,1 (The 3 medal rules from the Olympics, where 3 silver medals cant worth the same as 1 gold 'in points') ...or even 3,2,1.

Some motocross racing pays 1 point to the winner and 20 for the last and the champion is the one with less points BUT one DNF adds 20 points to you. Its kinda tragic but its also interesting!

F1nKS
11th May 2021, 19:43
Thats interesting. I always thought about that.. Why arent all the cars scoring points?

I suppose maybe they are trying to make there be a energetic mid-field fight for crumbs left after the top 3 teams.

But I wanted something to look at just to judge all the drivers up and down the grid. For example:

a. Vettel is catching alot of crap because he not scored any points, but what about Alonso and Raikkonen who are on-par with him.

b. Schumacher is actually doing pretty well compared to his contemparies, right there with Russel (albeit he had a DNF).

c. Mazepin is being thrashed daily (and probably rightly so), but nobody is thrashing Latifi.

d. Bottas is getting rumors put on his demise, but hardly anybody will say a negative word about Perez. Bottas has a DNF and still him and Perez are close.

5. Norris and Leclerc have had nice starts to the season.

6. Ocon has had a nice bounce back from last year so far.

7. Gasly is not having the year he thought he would (or it looked like his team could deliver).

lmmjvss
12th May 2021, 00:41
Great arguments! Im more onboard with your points system then with the current one.
Hope you keep it updated! haha Cheers mate. SPOT ON!

F1nKS
23rd May 2021, 18:18
Through Race 5

1 Verstappen 155
2 Hamilton 151
3 Norris 110
4 Perez 94
5 Sainz 88
6 Leclerc 80
7 Bottas 77
8 Ricciardo 73
9 Ocon 60
10 Stroll 55
11 Gasly 54
12 Vettel 48
13 Giovinazzi 42
14 Raikkonen 37
15 Alonso 35
16 Tsunoda 33
17 Russel 26
18 Schumacher 20
19 Latifi 14
20 Mazepin 12

lmmjvss
25th May 2021, 19:51
Wait.
Shouldnt Latifi have more points?
Finished in 18,DNF,18,16,15. Thats 3+0+3+5+6=17pts!

F1nKS
26th May 2021, 03:24
Wait.
Shouldnt Latifi have more points?
Finished in 18,DNF,18,16,15. Thats 3+0+3+5+6=17pts!

It very possible I made a mistake or have formula error in excel. Will check it out. If any body sees something that doesn't look right please point it out - I appreciate it.

F1nKS
26th May 2021, 14:51
Correction made

Total
1 Verstappen 155
2 Hamilton 151
3 Norris 110
4 Perez 94
5 Sainz 88
6 Leclerc 80
7 Bottas 77
8 Ricciardo 73
9 Ocon 60
10 Gasly 58
11 Stroll 55
12 Vettel 48
13 Giovinazzi 42
14 Raikkonen 37
15 Alonso 35
16 Tsunoda 33
17 Russel 26
18 Schumacher 20
19 Latifi 17
20 Mazepin 12

F1nKS
6th July 2021, 02:15
Latest expanded standings through Race Race 9

1 Verstappen 265
2 Hamilton 236
3 Perez 194
4 Norris 191
5 Bottas 171
6 Sainz 150
7 Leclerc 137
8 Ricciardo 127
9 Gasly 113
10 Vettel 101
11 Alonso 92
12 Stroll 89
13 Tsunoda 75
14 Ocon 74
15 Giovinazzi 71
16 Raikkonen 67
17 Russell 49
18 Schumacher 38
19 Latifi 35
20 Mazepin 25

F1nKS
11th August 2021, 02:03
Expanded rankings for the start of summer break. Updated with the Vettel DQ.

1 Hamilton 301
2 Verstappen 290
3 Norris 213
4 Perez 199
5 Bottas 197
6 Sainz 193
7 Leclerc 165
8 Ricciardo 157
9 Gasly 144
10 Vettel 139
11 Alonso 130
12 Ocon 121
13 Stroll 103
14 Giovinazzi 87
15 Tsunoda 86
16 Raikkonen 84
17 Russell 72
18 Latifi 58
19 Schumacher 50
20 Mazepin 29

F1nKS
12th September 2021, 22:55
Updated after Monza

1 Verstappen 350
2 Hamilton 348
3 Bottas 259
4 Norris 259
5 Sainz 238
6 Perez 234
7 Ricciardo 220
8 Leclerc 219
9 Gasly 180
10 Alonso 172
11 Vettel 171
12 Ocon 157
13 Stroll 131
14 Giovinazzi 110
15 Russell 107
16 Tsunoda 92
17 Raikkonen 86
18 Latifi 84
19 Schumacher 64
20 Mazepin 33

lmmjvss
13th September 2021, 14:24
What about the fight for the Sprint Race Title? Only one race to go! Há

Verstappen 5
Bottas 4
Lewis 2
Ricciardo 1

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Sprint Race using the regular points system?

Ver 43
Bot 40
Ham 28
Ric 23
Nor 22
Lec 20
Alo 6
Sai 6
Gio 4
Vet 4
Rus 2
Per 2
Oco 1
Str 1

MeR 68
RBR 45
MCL 45
FeR 26
ALP 7
AST 5
ALF 4
WIL 2

fiscorpun
23rd September 2021, 16:33
Since you guys like Points...
I was thinking about Indycar and those UCI cylcing points and I thought about another point system that I found interesting
Imagine if F1 paid 100 points to the winner 90 for P2, 80 for P3.... (top 10 score points)
But then you add '1 point' for 9 things, like: holeshot, lead most laps, lead one lap, fastest lap, fastest pitstop, most overtakes, pole position, fastest speed trap and driver of the day

so at the end of the race, the P2 could be only one point behind P1.
Its weird eh? Idk, just thinking out loud here
Cheers guys

F1nKS
1st November 2021, 00:00
Updated through COTA

1 Verstappen 441
2 Hamilton 432
3 Bottas 332
4 Norris 307
5 Perez 296
6 Sainz 293
7 Ricciardo 270
8 Leclerc 269
9 Gasly 206
10 Alonso 195
11 Vettel 194
12 Ocon 175
13 Stroll 162
14 Giovinazzi 135
15 Russell 131
16 Raikkonen 117
17 Tsunoda 115
18 Latifi 96
19 Schumacher 71
20 Mazepin 41

F1nKS
16th December 2021, 05:55
The FINAL Expanded Standings for 2021 Season

1 Verstappen597
2 Hamilton 594

3 Bottas 416
4 Sainz 384
5 Perez 372
6 Norris 368
7 Leclerc 350

8 Ricciardo 317
9 Gasly 282
10 Alonso 266
11 Ocon 251
12 Vettel 241

13 Stroll 205
14 Giovinazzi 170
15 Tsunoda 157
16 Raikkonen 153
17 Russell 148

18 Latifi 115
19 Schumacher 87
20 Mazepin 51