[WRC] Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2021

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent.fopo3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/164439772_264897161959916_6660743149217978648_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=bPOmRDmzzZUAX82YDxQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fopo3-2.fna&oh=80d0e4998f59f98e2a2bd24241a1ea14&oe=6081F739

Regs: https://www.rallydeportugal.pt/ResourcesUser/docs/2021/Regulamento/VRP%202021%20-%20Supplementary%20Regulations%202021%20GBR%20(v5) .pdf

[AnttiL]

Seems like the same route as 2020 should have had, but Amarante is back to full length. Porto - Foz is a new super special?

[EstWRC]

wow Saturday will be hell of a day, shortest stage 20km and longest 37km

i really hope this rally goes ahead, one of my favourites...although this year im not that really afraid about the cancellation of the rallies.

[AnttiL]

The stage lengths are quite curiously set, all Saturday stages are longer than Sunday and Friday, and all Sunday stages are longer than Friday and Saturday (except super specials of course)

[Andre Oliveira]

Seems like the same route as 2020 should have had, but Amarante is back to full length. Porto - Foz is a new super special?

Yes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ExWRDnVXIAAkPNz?format=jpg&name=900x900

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ey1qecCXAAASN8i?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[EstWRC]

Following an impressive debut @croatia_rally we can confirm that @AdrienFourmaux will be back behind the wheel of the EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta WRC @rallydeportugal. Our Flying Finn @TeemuSuninenRac will return to the wheel of the top-specification Fiesta @Rally_d_Italia #WRC

https://twitter.com/msportltd/status/1387043880139321349?s=21

[BigWorm]

Following an impressive debut @croatia_rally we can confirm that @AdrienFourmaux will be back behind the wheel of the EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta WRC @rallydeportugal. Our Flying Finn @TeemuSuninenRac will return to the wheel of the top-specification Fiesta @Rally_d_Italia #WRC

https://twitter.com/msportltd/status/1387043880139321349?s=21

Excellent from M-Sport to keep developing Fourmaux, shame for Suninen to only be in Rally2.

[mknight]

Too early for Fourmaux to drive WRC on gravel IMO, given his very little experience on it and no real results either. (unlike tarmac)

Then again if it's just a test how it goes then why not. Provided they have realistic expectations and follow up plans for getting gravel experience without running out of money.

[BigWorm]

Too early for Fourmaux to drive WRC on gravel IMO, given his very little experience on it and no real results either. (unlike tarmac)

Then again if it's just a test how it goes then why not. Provided they have realistic expectations and follow up plans for getting gravel experience without running out of money.

Experience is key. This will only do him good long term, no expectations to deliver a result like Croatia I would guess

[mknight]

Experience is key. This will only do him good long term, no expectations to deliver a result like Croatia I would guess

What if the ammount of money is fixed and he could do 2 or 3 rallies in Rally2 instead? (maybe it isn't)

Another thing is that in WRC there sometimes isn't anyone to compare with (only comparing to top drivers can be frustrating). I guess there will be Loubet, Greensmith and Katsuta in Portugal though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I wouldnt be surprised if Red Bull sponsorship paid for more rounds in the WRC car after the great publicity Fourmaux gave them in Croatia.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-m-sport-has-stuck-with-fourmaux-for-portugal

AF: "I’m really looking forward to experiencing this car on gravel and will work hard to learn as much as I can and really make the most of the experience. I’m so grateful to M-Sport and Red Bull for this opportunity."

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0H9UVDXEAgYd7M?format=jpg&name=4096x4096


#WRC2
@OliverSolberg01 will make his debut in WRC2 at @rallydeportugal while @OCVeiby will continue his campaign after a 5th place at the Arctic @RallyFinland
! They will drive the i20 R5 & score points for Hyundai Motorsport N in the Teams' championship!

[mknight]

So we now have (semi) confirmed in WRC2: Østberg, Mikkelsen, Solberg, Suninen, Lappi (and Veiby).

Basically only Huttunen and Fourmaux missing from the WRC2 "competitors". (Dunno about Gryazin)

Nice. Let's hope punctures/technical issues don't play too big role. There will likely be some road-cleaning but then again in WRC2 leading car drives first on saturday/sunday so it should compensate first day.

[rp]

Dunno about Gryazin

Should be there, but not sure that will nominate Portugal...

[AnttiL]

There will likely be some road-cleaning but then again in WRC2 leading car drives first on saturday/sunday so it should compensate first day.

Do WRC2 have road cleaning issues? I don't remember anything like that. The road is cleaned already by 8-10 WRC cars anyway. Usually it's more about just running into stones on the road and getting punctures, so the best road position is the first WRC2 car.

[mknight]

Do WRC2 have road cleaning issues? I don't remember anything like that. The road is cleaned already by 8-10 WRC cars anyway. Usually it's more about just running into stones on the road and getting punctures, so the best road position is the first WRC2 car.

Østberg was complaining about that a few times the last two years (Sweden 2019 comes to mind), but often the position difference was large vs WRC3/other Rally2 cars.

[Tom K]

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/c840273e-e820-482a-ba04-825fc91a66ba%2F274d74c3-ca89-4cd7-865f-9fe466e6c86a_Entry%20List.pdf?generation=161979138 9553649&alt=media

Nice entry list, especially in WRC 2 and WRC 3.

[mknight]

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/c840273e-e820-482a-ba04-825fc91a66ba%2F274d74c3-ca89-4cd7-865f-9fe466e6c86a_Entry%20List.pdf?generation=161979138 9553649&alt=media

Nice entry list, especially in WRC 2 and WRC 3.

Must be extra nice when you'r on it 😉

[dimviii]

new colors for Lappi

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0jrAA_XMAEcttY?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E0jrBBFXsAQlXGY?format=jpg&name=large

[rp]

new colors for Lappi



Very good indeed!

[mknight]

Used to be that EVEN (Veiby) was categorically against paying for a drive, even to the point of (seemingly) dropping Tidemand cause he disagreed with that.

Yet now EVEN is the main "sponsor" color on the car. Change of mind?

[AnttiL]

The level of cost is lower on a WRC2 entry compared to Tidemand’s WRC efforts.

[Myrvold]

Used to be that EVEN (Veiby) was categorically against paying for a drive, even to the point of (seemingly) dropping Tidemand cause he disagreed with that.

Yet now EVEN is the main "sponsor" color on the car. Change of mind?

Nope. EVEN have always been willing to pay in support categories, however. They will not pay for WRC.

[Francis44]

So it looks like, after much speculation, the rally will be held with spectators. There is some fine tuning to do as Arganil, for example, will likely be under sanitary closure. I would also imagine the SSS will be scrapped.

Regarding our borders, due too the increasing numbers of cases in Spain, there are some discussions to close the border during the week.

We should have more news next week.

[er88]

Ex Chelsea manager AVB on the entry list lol!!

[Andre Oliveira]

One less stage. Montim will be done 1 time only in sunday.

[PLuto]

One less stage. Montim will be done 1 time only in sunday.

:(

[polomayu]

Hello everyone, I'm planning my third visit to Portugal (second in the north). Finally yesterday the itinerary and the stages were shown, I have found them in some webs where you can download for maps or earth, but does any of you know if the access to the ZE have been published, or when they will be? thanks in advance.

and also a last question for those who were there in 2019 (more or less same stages), did you manage to see two stages in the same loop, i think in this years friday afternoon it's doable because they are adding mortagua at the end of friday, but what do you think about friday morning, or saturday?

Otherwise if I can help anybody with some doubts don't hesitate to ask!

[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/05/17/route-preview-rally-portugal-2021/

The 2020 route is used this year with slight updates. Two new forest stages, one new street stage. Saturday is grueling with 165 stage kilometres, it will be tough on the tyres!

[jcevc]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/05/17/route-preview-rally-portugal-2021/

The 2020 route is used this year with slight updates. Two new forest stages, one new street stage. Saturday is grueling with 165 stage kilometres, it will be tough on the tyres!

Many thanks for your work on descriptions of special stages :)

[EstWRC]

Tested positive for COVID-19, A.Mikkelsen has withdrawn from the @rallydeportugal! It should normally return to @Rally_d_Italiawith his team @toksportwrt
#WRC

https://twitter.com/RallyeSport/status/1394290791401545733?s=20

[mknight]

Explains why he wasn't on the Toksport test.

Besides being bad for him it's also bad for the WRC2 fight as this was probably the rally with most competition this year. (only Huttunen and Fourmaux missing). Already in Sardinia Lappi, Suninen and Solberg are missing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/mikkelsen-to-miss-portugal-after-positive-covid-19-test

It will mean he has to do another later rally when he wanted to do all his events early (and then maybe hire a WRC Car to get ready for a 2022 seat).

[rallyfiend]

He was in close contact with OC Veiby all last week in Marbella.

I wonder what this means for him for Rally Portugal.....

Has anyone heard from him?!

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen about covid
https://youtu.be/_wf8lGpGNpU

[Oliverk]

Not suprising. Dude could not stand in one place more than 5 minutes.Travelled and partied more in six months than regular british alco tourist in his life.

[mknight]

Evidence of partying in last 6 months? As to traveling check Neuvilles schedule (random example that was also on Targa Florio).

[Oliverk]

Evidence of partying in last 6 months? As to traveling check Neuvilles schedule (random example that was also on Targa Florio).

Check his youtube.

[TypeR]

and.. what has got 6 months before actions got to do with getting the virus in last 4, 5 - 10 days?

[mknight]

Check his youtube.

I do that every week. There is no evidence of partying there, which is why I ask what other evidence you got.

[EstWRC]

One could say that SS10 looks tricky at the moment. There are also good sections in it. How much this will change before saturday? #wrc #muddy #tricky #rough

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1qfwIvWEAM2gIB?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1qfwI2WQAE5Qlr?format=jpg&name=large


https://twitter.com/Krisse_Sohlberg/status/1394602694921408515?s=20

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier will be happy if its damp/muddy with him now being first on the road. Better than dry gravel sweeping.

[AnttiL]

Rest of the week should be dry

[dimviii]

Karlip Automobile
@Karlip1
·

Linnamäe withdraws from Portugal after co-driver tests positive. Remaining three tests were negative but the organizers don't want to risk.

[bisak]

three tests were negative...

It is I N S A N E how this is possible. One guy has a headache and a random positive test , another guy is completely healthy/free human being and is being denied. This has to stop folks. Shame on you who are supporting this madness. Shame on you!

[lmmjvss]

Insane!!!
Its insane that you people are telling "Hey, please dont go do something essencial to society like racing a car in the dirt cuz you can spread a virus that is killing thousand of people everyday in every country".
Insane!!

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/OKX6fjyiCiE

[denkimi]

Insane!!!
Its insane that you people are telling "Hey, please dont go do something essencial to society like racing a car in the dirt cuz you can spread a virus that is killing thousand of people everyday in every country".
Insane!!
Many things kill thousands of people every day, yet we don't let that stop the ones not affected by it.

[mknight]

Before the rally (and SD). There are a few drivers that I'm really unsure about and wonder how they handle the pressure:
Fourmaux - doesn't really have much gravel results or experience, after Croatia there suddenly are high expectations

Solberg- not much slower gravel experience or results either, very good speed last year on Sardinia, but in a very different car. Kinda expected to fight for win.

Lappi vs Suninen - there certainly is both pressure and rivalry included. Suninen is historically comparable to Lappi on slow gravel so this might be his best shot. But how is the Fiesta Rally2 now on slow gravel? Lappi for sure has to push given he has no clear program planned.

[AnttiL]

Any speculation? Portugal has often been filled with drama, crashes, punctures and technical faults, so it could be a surprising result.

I think Tänak is the favourite for having a decent starting position. In all of the three technical gravel rallies with Hyundai he's been unlucky, but also shown good pace.

Likely Ogier will suffer from the road position, but if he keeps it together, will be on the podium. On the contrary, Sordo could be very strong on the first day.

Will be interesting to see Fourmaux's pace. We consider him a tarmac specialist but he's had good pace on gravel as well. A decent starting position could award him with his first stage win on the opening day.

Also there's two new forest stages (one of them driven only once, other twice), and the Friday stages are only familiar from 2019 so that could also mix it up a bit.

WRC2 will be decided on punctures. I expect Lappi to have the best outright pace, but it's a different thing who is first in finish on Sunday. It could be even Bulacia.

[mknight]

One guy that doesn't even get mentioned is Rovanpera. In all of the slower gravel rallies last year he was clearly slower than the other 5 (4+Sordo). Will he be able to compete with any of them this year?

[AnttiL]

One guy that doesn't even get mentioned is Rovanpera. In all of the slower gravel rallies last year he was clearly slower than the other 5 (4+Sordo). Will he be able to compete with any of them this year?

Yes, definitely seems that faster rallies are more natural to him and the technical stuff needs still learning to do. But interesting to see what they can do after the Croatia crash (and a similarly bad weekend in the previous gravel rally in Sardegna).

[mknight]

It's not big problem for Rovanpera since it's still very early (see for example Ogier in his first full year) but it's nevertheless interesting to follow.

Bad for him is that there on slower gravel often is quite a big gap between the top 5 and the "others" and he ends in between with nobody to fight. Kind of easier for Fourmaux who has 3 drivers to compare with.

We'll see if this kind of "class division" also happens here.

[Rallyper]

Hey you guys!
Don´t forget Pickems! Less than 24 hours before closing.

[Rallyper]

And now live on WRC+, Shake Down.

[TypeR]

SD looks like tarmac smooth.. :D

[mknight]

Well dunno if SD is exactly same as in 2019 (same length) but Ogier is now slower than the slowest first WRC pass in 2019.(3:11 vs 3:09)

[EstWRC]

great to see cars back on gravel after such a long time, cant believe we have had such a long break from the main surface

[TypeR]

Taka fastest so far :O

[EstWRC]

Formaux stalles on the start line on the first run

[Rallyper]

He lost about 3-4 secs on that one.

[EstWRC]

Antti is the shakedown exactly the same as in 2019?

they are much slower, Tänak did 3.02.7 in 2019 on first run

[AnttiL]

Antti is the shakedown exactly the same as in 2019?

they are much slower, Tänak did 3.02.7 in 2019 on first run

It appears the start is different, now they do a 90 right just after the start line

[EstWRC]

Lappi as fast as Loubet basically

[AnttiL]

Lappi as fast as Loubet basically

And Suninen was faster than Östberg with a flat tyre.

[TypeR]

SD 2019 vs 2021
https://www.upload.ee/image/13159340/sdd2021.jpg

[dimviii]

All toyota with same time

[TypeR]

Fourmaux improving nicely, but where's Gus?

[mknight]

I see possible rain showers tomorrow morning, that would change a lot in terms of starting position advantage.

[AnttiL]

I see possible rain showers tomorrow morning, that would change a lot in terms of starting position advantage.

Rovanperä also said to Finnish media that the rains have already cleaned the roads a bit, and in turn it brings up the rough bedrock earlier.

[AnttiL]

Fourmaux improving nicely, but where's Gus?

Technical issue

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Technical issue

Hope it gets sorted soon so he can get a run or two.

[PLuto]

Fourmaux improving nicely, but where's Gus?

(44 - Greensmith Gus / Patterson Chris): not start in 1st run due to technical problem

[EstWRC]

Tänak did 3 straight runs (Sordo too). Improves a further second on 3rd pass.

3.06.1 fastest so far.

[EstWRC]

Tänak and Rovanpera on their 4th and 2nd run respectively did exactly the same time, 3.06.2

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E10GUEhWQAA2eA5?format=jpg&name=900x900

[TypeR]

Evans fastest after 4th run - 3.05.9

E: Fourmaux has done 7 rounds :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith done 3 runs now - 6th fastest.

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/-04vfSKE-x4

[mknight]

Fourmaux has done 7 rounds :D

7 rounds and ends as slowest WRC....

He had really bad luck for test though with thick fog and lots of rain, so no surprise he wants to drive as much as possible now.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E100AhQXIAAoTAs?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E11A42oXEAARxiJ?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E101FglWYAED9T1?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E101OGFXEAI_8wj?format=jpg&name=small

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hu0IuvH-Xk

[denkimi]

Rovanperä also said to Finnish media that the rains have already cleaned the roads a bit, and in turn it brings up the rough bedrock earlier.
There hasn't been any decent rain in the last week. Only some minor on tuesday morning, but that won't make much difference.

[Tom206wrc]

No shakedown for the Peugeot cup drivers :confused:

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t8tp2rODm4

[AnttiL]

There hasn't been any decent rain in the last week. Only some minor on tuesday morning, but that won't make much difference.

https://twitter.com/krisse_sohlberg/status/1394602694921408515?s=21

[AnttiL]

Also:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-soft-tires-could-be-rally-portugals-hardest-challenge

[mknight]

Well I welcome tire choice uncertainty on gravel. Last years after Michelin introduced the "medium" tire (Finland 2017 or 2018?) were extremely boring.

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/vodafone-rally-de-portugal_2021/hfr_dsc_6348.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/vodafone-rally-de-portugal_2021/hfr_dsc_7478.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/vodafone-rally-de-portugal_2021/hfr_dsc_6791.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/vodafone-rally-de-portugal_2021/hfr_dsc_6673.jpg
https://www.ewrc-results.com/photo/68111-vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2021/

[AnttiL]

Well I welcome tire choice uncertainty on gravel. Last years after Michelin introduced the "medium" tire (Finland 2017 or 2018?) were extremely boring.

2018. Definitely got more boring after that.

[Andre Oliveira]

No Veiby at start list of tomorrow.

[Kalm]

He was in close contact with OC Veiby all last week in Marbella.

I wonder what this means for him for Rally Portugal.....

Has anyone heard from him?!

heres your answer then :)

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y1DRjkw4t8

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent.fopo3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/188620893_4547847878577937_2681601123369189818_n.j pg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=ca434c&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=qbeVGPMbtCIAX_DiNq1&_nc_ht=scontent.fopo3-1.fna&tp=14&oh=9aac0b2baeca44aae3df4fa323de11ea&oe=60CC743D

[mknight]

Since Mikkelsen had symptoms already on Thursday does this mean there is some other asymptomatic person around Veiby's team that's the source?

[bisak]

The PCR testing should be completely obvious now to anyone with half a working brain cell that it yields 100% random results, so obviously the guy is fine and will be fine. Hoping that someone else doesn't win the "lottery" that seems to be so popular nowadays.

does this mean there is some other asymptomatic person around Veiby's team that's the source?
Yes man, It's pretty logical that sick people are at home and asymptomatic (e.g completely healthy) people are out and about

[drive]

was LIVE - FIA World Rally Championship opening ceremony on facebook - only 2300 viewers when top 5 drivers were presented.... everyone watching Eurovision? :)

[mknight]

Asymptomatic people can infect others that might die. Well documented for over a year now. So take your half working brain cell and enjoy my ignore list. Congratulations for being the 2nd person there.

[Augury]

Can we get this retarded flat earth cave troll out of here admins? It's about time now, don't you think?

[SubaruNorway]

So Mikkelsen was able to withdraw but Veiby has already started the event so it counts as one of the 7?

[EstWRC]

Good morning guys!

Cloudy and slight rain i hear. Remember theres no service today, just a tyre remote zone.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E15ImJYWEAsyLqi?format=jpg&name=small

[Rallyper]

Morning! Huomenta! God morgon!

Exciting first day ahead. :) :)

[mknight]

I expect a disadvantage for Hyundai since their car seems most sensitive to "perfect" settings. With no service and wet morning/dry afternoon it will be hard to get that perfect setting.

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E15ImJYWEAsyLqi?format=jpg&name=small

So, we expected an exciting tyre choice, and Michelin's medium compound made it boring... :D

[EstWRC]

Thierry 0.4 slower in split 1

[Rallyper]

Neuville happy with car.

[EstWRC]

mega pace from Thierry between spl1 and spl2

[Rally Hokkaido]

Hi guys. Ott fastest on 1st split, so far.

EDIT: and goes to the top of the leader board!

[EstWRC]

Tänak had a stall and half spin, lost about 3-4 secs

SS1: TÄNAK

There's not much in it! Ott completes with the fastest time so far by just 0.5sec despite a half-spin at a hairpin right.

"We had a stall in the stage and a spin. The engine stopped as well."

[AnttiL]

It's another Tänak Attack!

[AnttiL]

Greensmith coming quick. I know he's trying extra hard on a rally he's done before in WRC car, hopefully it doesn't mean another crash.

[Rallyper]

GG surprisingly fast. However roadposition and quite slow stage makes it happen.

[EstWRC]

stall for Sordo as well, wtf Hyundai

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great start by Greensmith.

[TypeR]

stall for Sordo as well, wtf Hyundai
Hyundai trying out new start-stop system to be even more eco friendly :D

[Rally Hokkaido]

GG surprisingly fast. However roadposition and quite slow stage makes it happen.

We should give him credit for this quick time. He was only one position behind his team mate! If your theory is correct then Dani should top the times.


EDIT: and he almost did.

[EstWRC]

horrible time from Loubet

[wwbroe]

Bestime for Ostberg, just in front of Suninen, Lappi loosing 6 sec

[Rallyper]

We should give him credit for this quick time. He was only one position behind his team mate! If your theory is correct then Dani should top the times.


EDIT: and he almost did.

I do think he did good. Just told an explanation. The time doesn´t reflect his o/a speed though.

[mknight]

Gryazin can still win the stage. Lappi maybe misjudged how much he needs to push.

[TypeR]

good for M-Sport that both Gus and Teemu showing that Fords have the speed

[EstWRC]

Lappi and Solberg losing 7 secs to Gryazin

[krissucool]

Glad to see the old Ott again after feeling resigned last week.

1st time on stage and just pure frustrations on the Hyundai. "Spin and a stall and motor blocked, same problems over and over again"

When Ott is complaining about the car even when winning stages, that is when you know he is fully on it.

[pantealex]

good for M-Sport that both Gus and Teemu showing that Fords have the speed

and bad for those other 2 Fiesta WRC2 drivers who can´t blame the car... (24s off the lead)

[pantealex]

Lindholm is WRC3 leader. (locals are still coming)

[EstWRC]

it seems the road actually isnt getting much faster

[EstWRC]

Tänak not satisfied with the car at all

[Rallyper]

Becys and Julian telling they can´t do anything to change grip...

However they can "click" the dampers.

[Rallyper]

Taka fastest Toyota.

[TypeR]

Katsuta best Toyota on SS2 :D

[AnttiL]

1st time on stage and just pure frustrations on the Hyundai. "Spin and a stall and motor blocked, same problems over and over again"

And I thought stalling was a Toyota problem

[AnttiL]

You can see Hyundais gaining time (or Toyotas losing) on more technical sections, like all of SS1 and the ending of SS2.

[EstWRC]

everybody saying the tires starting to go, and we have one 18km stage left still

[EstWRC]

finally a time that i expected to see from back starters

E. Sordos rear tires look pretty bad

[jonkka]

Sordo about to take the lead?

[TypeR]

don't understand the same all softs choice for everyone..

[jcevc]

finally a time that i expected to see from back starters

E. Sordos rear tires look pretty bad

Shame we didn`t see also front tyres, must be even worse...

[EstWRC]

we have pretty interesting situation at Hyundai, Neuville and Sordo seem quite happy with the car, Tänak not at all

[Thousandlakes]

Lappi just woke up

[EstWRC]

lol....Janne Ferm having huge Ford badge on his helmet while driving with VW

[Tauri_J]

don't understand the same all softs choice for everyone..

What you dont understand? Bedrock covered with slight layer of sand. Softs in the morning and hards afternooon when bedrock fully exposed.

[Timmy]

2104
Loubet crash site?

[Tauri_J]

2104
Loubet crash site?

nope

[Timmy]

2104
Loubet crash site?

How can you be sure? Is there any information out or was the armcoat already damaged on previous onboards?

[Tauri_J]

That armco is pretty much in stage's end, he crashed way way before that.

And there were no tyre marks there imo

[EstWRC]

this stage seems to clean a lot based on first splits

[AnttiL]

Surprisingly low pace from Oliver Solberg.

[EstWRC]

Tänak gains much time with faster parts, Thierry with more technical and slower parts

[mknight]

Surprisingly low pace from Oliver Solberg.

I wouldn't say so. A bit slower that I expected but not much.

First time here. Little experience (and results) on slower gravel, first time on gravel in probably not the greatest car and big competition on top.

There were people picking him to win here though..

[EstWRC]

Very good morning from Neuville, not so much from Tänak IMO, expected bigger gains with his starting position.

Hyundais starting to go away from Toyotas and usually they are even better on second loop

[TypeR]

I bet Teemu doesn't like Fourmaux' split times.. :D

[EstWRC]

I bet Teemu doesn't like Fourmaux' split times.. :D

they all start losing on second part of the stage where they cant hold their tires

[Rallyper]

Fourmaux is doing really well.

[Rallyper]

Surprisingly low pace from Oliver Solberg.

I would rather say that about Kalle, than Oliver.

[krissucool]

I would rather say that about Kalle, than Oliver.

Kalle has never been this slow in a WRC car I think?

[TypeR]

mega time from Fourmaux! same as Evans, +3.8 to Tänak
passed Ogier, Gus, Rovanperä in overall

[EstWRC]

Sordo just crushing it

[EstWRC]

Ostberg stopped

Hyundais 1-2-3 on every stage in the morning

[AnttiL]

I wouldn't say so. A bit slower that I expected but not much.

First time here. Little experience (and results) on slower gravel, first time on gravel in probably not the greatest car and big competition on top.

There were people picking him to win here though..

Well, he was really on the pace in Sardegna which is quite similar. Especially he won the RC2 class on the super technical SS1 there.

[AnttiL]

I would rather say that about Kalle, than Oliver.

Yeah, after SS3 I can say that Kalle has really underperformed.

[EstWRC]

"ei näe küll mitää!

[mknight]

Suninen was leading WRC2 and leading Lappi on splits and then lost it all in Østbergs dust.

[mknight]

Well, he was really on the pace in Sardegna which is quite similar. Especially he won the RC2 class on the super technical SS1 there.

Not in Hyundai R5.

Also against what competition.. Fourmaux on basically his first gravel and Huttunen and co. in i20. (Østberg had issues)

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/68111_210521_greensmith_puncture.jpg

[dimviii]

Bulacia not bad in terms of speed.

[TypeR]

Pretty fast wheel change for Mads, around 1min30

[EstWRC]

dont know if Egon Kaur has a problem or not but that pace is pretty bad so far

[wwbroe]

Decent time for Oliver on this stage

[doubled1978]

I would rather say that about Kalle, than Oliver.

It’s understandable I think, after Croatia I’m sure he really doesn’t want to do it again early in the rally.

[dimviii]

WRCWings
@llluis555
The Toyota Yaris WRC of @KalleRovanpera
and @JonneHalttunen
and the Fiestas WRC with rear fender vents partial blockage in the first day of @rallydeportugal
... maybe expecting some mud in the next stages #WRC #WRClive #WRCliveES #RallyPortugal2021


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E15SFMyWQAMW-BL?format=jpg&name=small

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E15lkRrXMAExPoa?format=jpg&name=900x900

[dimviii]

Oliver with hard tyres this morning.Do we know choice of other wrc2 drivers?


Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
·
3 stages done this morning at @rallydeportugal
and we’re 4th overall in #WRC2 Thumbs up tricky start to the rally with changing conditions and a hard tyre choice! We’re in regroup now before repeating this loop of 3 stages

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith :(
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1543n-WYAIr1Uc?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://nsa40.casimages.com/img/2021/05/21/210521124559897640.png

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[mknight]

Oliver with hard tyres this morning.Do we know choice of other wrc2 drivers?


Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
·
3 stages done this morning at @rallydeportugal
and we’re 4th overall in #WRC2 Thumbs up tricky start to the rally with changing conditions and a hard tyre choice! We’re in regroup now before repeating this loop of 3 stages

I don't actually think he means he had hard tires. Just that it was hard to pick tires

I think Lappi had like 3 soft+ 2 hard and Østberg 4 hard + 2 soft. Østberg should have gained on that in last stage but got a puncture...
No idea about Suninen.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E16FJWaWEAAeAf8?format=jpg&name=small

[TypeR]

Can't be real.. Tänak took two spares :D

[EstWRC]

dont know if Egon Kaur has a problem or not but that pace is pretty bad so far

answering myself, brake problems since SS1

[Tauri_J]

Yeah thats not Kaur's real pace.

[TypeR]

Nice service park live.. ffs

[krissucool]

Clownshow

[dimviii]

Ogier 3 sec faster from morning,but still 2,1 slower from morning Tanaks time

[Rallyper]

Why the delay?

Edit: stage started but no pics...

[mknight]

Obviously there is some issues, for example with the relay-plane.

However they could just say they have an issue instead of "ignoring" it.

[EstWRC]

Neuville 1.4 faster in spl2 than Ogier

[Integrale]

Why the delay?

Edit: stage started but no pics...
No delay, stage is live, plane is on its way.

[dimviii]

Neuville 1.4 faster in spl2 than Ogier

he was -4,1 at morning pass

[AnttiL]

Obviously there is some issues, for example with the relay-plane.

However they could just say they have an issue instead of "ignoring" it.

they said the plane is still on the way to the stage so no images

[tc10a]

Obviously there is some issues, for example with the relay-plane.

However they could just say they have an issue instead of "ignoring" it.

They clearly said what is the problem - the plane.

[mknight]

they said the plane is still on the way to the stage so no images

Following for 7 minutes now, in those 7 mins they didn't say anything.

[AnttiL]

Following for 7 minutes now, in those 7 mins they didn't say anything.

Well maybe it was 8 minutes ago, and now they repeated it.

[EstWRC]

no splits from Tänak but he is moving nicely on maps

[krissucool]

Where the puta is Tänaks split?

[EstWRC]

Tänak a second slower in spl2

[Rallyper]

Here we go.

[krissucool]

Tänak a shadow of his Toyota self. What a disaster of a move that has been so far.

[EstWRC]

Kalle finally woke up

[Rallyper]

I think they feel the hard tyres more slippery.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go on Gus !

[EstWRC]

5 hards not wrking for Formaux?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice run... Gus likes that stage.

[Rallyper]

GG likes this stage, obviously.

[EstWRC]

shame about his puncture, having a really good rally so far

[doubled1978]

shame about his puncture, having a really good rally so far
Yes absolutely, we knock him when he is slow, so we must give him credit when he is quick.
Probably the biggest surprise of the rally so far is his pace.

[EstWRC]

really close times, even Ogier only 4.2 down while starting first

[dimviii]

nice photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E16RTEFWUAMwHF-?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[TypeR]

Rovanperä's 10th WRC stage win

[mknight]

Gryazin takes WRC2 lead.

[wwbroe]

Gryazin takes WRC2 lead.

Yes, but the margin is very small

[wwbroe]

Kristensson stopped?

[wwbroe]

What is the reason of Camilli's retirement?

[dimviii]

Rally Paradise
@rallyparadise
#WRC #RallydePortugal Ramos & Bassas rolled at the same corner... #WRClive #RallyPortugal #WRCPOR @rallydeportugal


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E16RZybWQAIw9jW?format=jpg&name=900x900

[EstWRC]

the wrc+ is plain horrible this year

[Oliverk]

the wrc+ is plain horrible this year

Prob on budget also.

[AnttiL]

Yes absolutely, we knock him when he is slow, so we must give him credit when he is quick.
Probably the biggest surprise of the rally so far is his pace.

Co-driver change has done much good to his pace

[TypeR]

spectators and fans allowed, wrc+ viewers forbidden :D

[AnttiL]

the wrc+ is plain horrible this year

I haven't noticed major differences (for me WRC+ is working right now)

[dimviii]

What is the reason of Camilli's retirement?

6 flag Camilli Eric - Buresi François-Xavier
Citroën C3 Rally2 Mechanical

[EstWRC]

fog on the top of the mountain

[Fast Eddie WRC]

fog on the top of the mountain

Hence no heli shots which were great this morning. :(

[EstWRC]

the times are so close, i love it

[EstWRC]

and Neuville passed Tänak

[krissucool]

Something sounded weird with that car. Puncture?

[Rallyper]

Kristensson only rear wheel drive and ended in a ditch...

Restart tomorrow.

[EstWRC]

Something sounded weird with that car. Puncture?

maybe. he gave 7 secs away with the second half

[wwbroe]

Lappi taking the lead back from Gryazin?

With Suninen only 0,1 behind Gryazin in third

[mknight]

Another lead change in WRC2, so far there is a lead change after every stage.

[pantealex]

Who would have guessed that Takamoto Katsuta would be fastest non Hyundai driver after SS5 ?

Very mature driving.

[EstWRC]

watching the splits of SS5, it seems Tänak went on a attack (was 3 up on Sordo in split2) but then got a slow puncture after split 2 or whatever the issue was

[Rallyper]

Who would have guessed that Takamoto Katsuta would be fastest non Hyundai driver after SS5 ?

Very mature driving.

I have a piece of his frontspoiler... Remember?

[Rallyper]

Nice incar view from Evans.

[EstWRC]

Neuville and Tänak are like robots the whole day , settng very identical times with very little gaps if at all

[Tauri_J]

Puncture confirmed for Ott

[EstWRC]

Puncture confirmed for Ott

hasnt been a good day so far, the puncture and then the stall and half spin in the morning

but still in the game despite that and the gaps are close so all good

[EstWRC]

TOP3 separated by 10 secs


Sordo having problems with tyres too, pieces coming out of front tires

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC3 leader Solans off the road on SS5 and seems Lindholm with a puncture.

[dimviii]

Fourmaux with water pump problem according to French forum

[dimviii]

Ivan Fernandez
@fernischumi

Bad news, Jan Solans appears arrested in SS5, at the same point where Nikolaus Mayr-Melnhof is also arrested #WRC Track departure


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E16ssNoXEAYxlYw?format=jpg&name=small

[dimviii]

Solans


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E16snm8XsAAM3Jt?format=png&name=900x900

[Rallyper]

See you tomorrow. Will watch All Live on remote place... sauna...

[EstWRC]

very weird tyre choice for Neuville, to put both softs on one side?

[Essaj]

Neuville off

[EstWRC]

Neuville crash

[jonkka]

Neuville off

Huh?

[EstWRC]

Tänak losing a lot of time as well

[EstWRC]

Ogier will gain 2 places with this