WRC event Rally Estonia 2020

[AnttiL]

Press releases

Toyota https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2020/wrc/rd04-preview.html
Hyundai https://motorsport.hyundai.com/excitement-builds-for-estonia/

[the sniper]

Wtf... no service, partial return offered...
https://www.rallyestonia.ee/tagastused

To be honest, I was surprised it was open to the public in the first place.

[meh]

Next PR clip from Rally Estonia, probably answers some widespread questions also:
https://www.facebook.com/rallyestonia/videos/309225353858209

[AnttiL]

Maps are now out https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Estonia-2020

[AnttiL]

I updated my blog post with stage details

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2020/08/22/route-preview-rally-estonia-2020/

[GigiGalliNo1]

Excellent!

[Tauri_J]

I updated my blog post with stage details

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2020/08/22/route-preview-rally-estonia-2020/

Nice writeup. I think Arula will be the fastest stage of the rally. They'll reach 135kmh on average easily.

Its weird to see 8 chicanes on Prangli stage(not the fastest stage) but nowhere else or whoever made that map did not mark them there. Obviously most of them are tightened junctions not proper chicanes. Only proper chicane is before Veski's jump.

[AnttiL]

Nice writeup. I think Arula will be the fastest stage of the rally. They'll reach 135kmh on average easily.

Its weird to see 8 chicanes on Prangli stage(not the fastest stage) but nowhere else or whoever made that map did not mark them there. Obviously most of them are tightened junctions not proper chicanes. Only proper chicane is before Veski's jump.

Thanks!

Kanepi will also be very fast. After the small road loop there's not many places where you have to shift down.

Elva and Kaagvere also have one chicane each, and many stages have those tightened junctions although not marked on rally-maps (for example all three junctions of the shakedown).

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/118610950_3358414020883784_5098870660243547729_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=gRpdb6rI1ZIAX_fYLD6&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&tp=6&oh=9983aa5a92a24b1a9456f0df56d20956&oe=5F71771A
https://www.pardiralli.ee/storage/images/pub_th2/ralliauto-4XUDEkcy7zSz48VOSwdR.jpg

[pantealex]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/118610950_3358414020883784_5098870660243547729_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=gRpdb6rI1ZIAX_fYLD6&_nc_ht=scontent-bru2-1.xx&tp=6&oh=9983aa5a92a24b1a9456f0df56d20956&oe=5F71771A
https://www.pardiralli.ee/storage/images/pub_th2/ralliauto-4XUDEkcy7zSz48VOSwdR.jpg

Karl Kruuda (and #51 Al-Rashed) are using Team Printsport cars.
Kruuda did win Finnish Championship with them while ago.

[GigiGalliNo1]

What Dale Moscat had to go through to compete with Kruuda

"The first (Covid) test in Australia was up one nostril.
Second test in Aus was down the throat then also up one nostril.
Third test in Tallinn was a long probe up one nostril (right up to swab the brain from the feeling) then count to 5 whilst rotating the probe��. Then repeat on up the other nostril.
Happy to be compliant of course, but it’s far from pleasant!!!"

[Tauri_J]

Some pictures from SS1. They have done a great job with surface. Rock hard base like in Finland, should hold up well.

https://i.postimg.cc/NjyG9v1x/IMG-20200830-185226.jpg (https://postimg.cc/G4CnVNgB)

https://i.postimg.cc/RVZZmHhy/IMG-20200830-185615.jpg (https://postimg.cc/7bjkMbgn)

https://i.postimg.cc/y8w10pjC/IMG-20200830-185849.jpg (https://postimg.cc/LJ3FpTGx)

https://i.postimg.cc/hPZPtt7j/IMG-20200830-190151.jpg (https://postimg.cc/6yRNHwcJ)

https://i.postimg.cc/1XJR69Cv/IMG-20200830-190409.jpg (https://postimg.cc/JHHWCWWX)

https://i.postimg.cc/jqXSBXxy/IMG-20200830-190706.jpg (https://postimg.cc/jCDT7yJj)

https://i.postimg.cc/kgDGQbdK/IMG-20200830-190915.jpg (https://postimg.cc/tsQ9y7J4)

[EstWRC]

WRC is finally back guys!! its rally week.

im already in south-estonia in my hometown, cant wait.

[AnttiL]

Some pictures from SS1. They have done a great job with surface. Rock hard base like in Finland, should hold up well.

This looks like a very good super special. no donuts, no ramp jumps, no twin-car-action, almost all gravel surface (although I wouldn't have minded some tarmac-gravel-alternating to spice things up)

[AnttiL]

Press releases

Toyota https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2020/wrc/rd04-preview.html
Hyundai https://motorsport.hyundai.com/excitement-builds-for-estonia/

https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2020/08/31/BACK-IN-ACTION-AT-RALLY-ESTONIA

[EstWRC]

SS1

https://p.ocdn.ee/40/i/2020/8/31/rstwflul.bbf.jpg
https://p.ocdn.ee/40/i/2020/8/31/h1fyu0ka.pj0.jpg
https://p.ocdn.ee/40/i/2020/8/31/fdpc1ocs.uzk.jpg
https://p.ocdn.ee/40/i/2020/8/31/qaouu1vp.xen.jpg

[MartijnS]

Fourmaux rolled on test.

https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1300796352746713089

[the sniper]

Fourmaux rolled on test.

https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1300796352746713089

At least Malcolm can sympathise with this one...

[Thousandlakes]

Does anybody know if Ford (Lappi/Suninen) has new spec engines in Estonia? They definitely need some extra horsepower.

[dimviii]

Fourmaux rolled on test.

https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1300796352746713089

Μunster with better style
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1300797569472303104?s=09

[Fast Eddie WRC]

From WRC.com

It is the turn of M-Sport Ford team principal Rich Millener to answer our questions as he leads the British squad towards this weekend’s FIA World Rally Championship restart event at Rally Estonia.

Q. What about Rally Estonia? How are things shaping up?
A. We’re just absolutely delighted to be back rallying again. This sport is everything to us and as much as anything, we’ve missed being out there in the competition.

Q. It’s been a tough time for your team recently…
A. It’s not been easy for anybody, that goes without saying. But these months through lockdown and since then have been pretty horrendous to be honest. It’s no secret that things have been – and still are – really tough at M-Sport. Some difficult decisions have been made, but they’ve been made for one single reason – to bring the company and the team through this crisis in the strongest shape possible.


Q. What can we expect from the team this week?

A. Not testing in Estonia is really not ideal for us, but it’s a case of cutting our cloth right now. That said, the guys have all spent time in the car. Gus and Teemu were both in Greystoke last week and obviously EP was over doing the event in south Estonia. That’s all good. What can we expect from them? Let’s see. A couple of Finns in a couple of quick Fiestas down a fast bit of road… there’s definitely the potential for a result.

Naturally, we always want to win. That’s what we’re in this sport for and when you’ve been on the top of the world, it hurts when you’re not there. A win would be amazing, but we’d be pretty chuffed with a podium as well.

[br21]

Does anybody know if Ford (Lappi/Suninen) has new spec engines in Estonia? They definitely need some extra horsepower.

Yes, small updates

[dimviii]

Toyota technical director Tom Fowler knows Tänak as well as anybody. He’s not discounting his former colleague for victory in Tartu.

Earlier in the summer Fowler put his thoughts into typical precise analysis.

“If [Tänak] has 97% of our car, he’s good enough to find that extra three percent. There’s no doubt, he will be quick there.”

Tänak’s not sure about that. 97% is a little low for him…

“We try to have 100%,” he said. “Or maybe we’ll have more than that…”
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-tanak-has-no-stress-going-into-estonias-wrc-debut/

[HarriK]

Fourmaux rolled on test.

https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1300796352746713089

Who ended hyundai r5 on side in same corner yesterday?
I saw video of that.

[MartijnS]

https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?40790-WRC-event-Rally-Estonia-2020&p=1250116&viewfull=1#post1250116

[Hartusvuori]

Who ended hyundai r5 on side in same corner yesterday?
I saw video of that.

Munster.

[AnttiL]

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/why-running-first-on-the-road-might-not-hurt-in-estonia/

[EstWRC]

SS1 https://youtu.be/MIv2aMbB2YU

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg5KxbSWoAEwcoh.jpg

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6RoGMX0AYM_ex?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6RoiJWkAIBgpG?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6Ro7oWkAE1su8?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6mNDtWoAAWJyH?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6mRQ-XcAYjdc2?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg6mW0bXcAYLXKj?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/ArnaudREMY/status/1301160443390709761
https://twitter.com/MundoRallyes/status/1301137477030285313?s=20

[Kestask]

Question for Estonians, where is special stages maps with spectator area by tickets number? I have Tickets, but cant find this info where to go exactly.

[TanelP]

In the rally magazine. You can buy it from Circle K gas stations.

[Jarek Z]

After almost six months without driving it is not easy to get a good feeling straight away but after many testing sessions I can be happy - says Kajto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_FpGz71yLA

[Jarek Z]

Who is Kruuda's sponsor? His livery is quite crazy :)

[Tarmop]

He is raising money for a childrens fond, so probably he is the sponsor himself in this case.

[dimviii]

Who is Kruuda's sponsor? His livery is quite crazy :)

its an organisation about kids cancer i read at twitter

[Tauri_J]

Yup, more info here

https://www.pardiralli.ee/en/the-aim-of-duck-race

[pantealex]

https://rallyestonia.com/userfiles/WRCRE2020%20Bulletin%201%20(with%20Attachments)%20 ver%202.pdf

28 pages, most of those about Covid handling.

also some minor schedule/km changes.

[EstWRC]

Weather wise it’s raining today, same for tomorrow it seems. I’m living 20-30 kms from some of the stages and it was bucketing down couple of hours ago, okay it doesn’t mean it’s raining on those stages.

And it seems there will be rain also on Saturday but after the lunch, starting from 15.00.

E: again, absolutely hammering down at 11:13 local time

[Tauri_J]

Tomorrow should be dry. Could even see some sunshine during shakedown. Rain arrives again on saturday evening maybe even for the later stages, although light.

Very tricky recce today, it seems.

[EstWRC]

https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118770570_10157763560605678_5847012101292249863_o. jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=lGgVtQtzQyYAX8UML_q&_nc_ht=scontent-hel2-1.xx&oh=7850ad57640d4559815ef8c01e0c61fd&oe=5F76BACF
https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118764469_10157763560290678_4556123049072584522_o. jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=bBAucN4cIdIAX9EX_8_&_nc_ht=scontent-hel2-1.xx&oh=8b7b4664c2159916089b3d3b3bc243ce&oe=5F75C9AB
https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118763414_10157763560565678_2445999239752506255_o. jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=F8djyB0jJ5QAX-lwLeW&_nc_ht=scontent-hel2-1.xx&oh=601ba132c8bebe6ef980d4d3178be842&oe=5F76D22B
https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118766105_10157763560130678_7756151172225509091_o. jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=1rt4aoJDpSgAX9PsuoI&_nc_ht=scontent-hel2-1.xx&oh=8c8d9a7d3fcbc224e3482f653756286a&oe=5F76857C
https://scontent-hel2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118762556_10157763560720678_2438922934866954821_o. jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=8ImN_BmAA-AAX8TenaW&_nc_ht=scontent-hel2-1.xx&oh=2ff2389c433101b90c58c8b6f42571f8&oe=5F753C0A


credit https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/posts/10157763568440678

[EstWRC]

A taste what’s coming for the drivers https://www.instagram.com/p/CEqkgVCpS2a/?igshid=heze6im9awif

[AnttiL]

Having heavy rain on the roads could make them softer but it will also wash away and compact the loose gravel on the top. Difficult to estimate the amount of rain, but some of those pictures are showing puddles.

[EstWRC]

this is how its been today, since morning https://twitter.com/MundoRallyes/status/1301433749436063744?s=20

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eg-oDQJXsAA9Pt1?format=jpg&name=900x900

Most of the Estonian roads don't have proper ditches so they could remain wet longer.

[EstWRC]

dirtfish on the recce https://www.facebook.com/DirtFishRally/videos/2702516850003556/

[TypeR]

Masks now mandatory on spectator areas. If you don't have one, it will be given at ticket check.

[EstWRC]

just watched an stream interview with Urmo.

SS2, the longest stage could be very crucial, seems not difficult stage but its actually quite tricky. Could be big time differences on the first pass.

Says even if its not raining anymore, its already looking good for Ogier with the amount of rain it has come down so far.

and the drivers will jump 200 times during the whole rally :D

[Oraamat]

So almost one jump per km :D

[AnttiL]

SS2, the longest stage could be very crucial, seems not difficult stage but its actually quite tricky. Could be big time differences on the first pass.

There's many junction turns and chicanes. You can win or lose a lot by getting the braking right or wrong, whereas when you're driving flat out the cars and drivers are close to the same performance. There's also many rhythm changes, from wide to narrow road, technical to fast-flowing, hard to soft, fast to slow, gravel to tarmac (I think three tarmac bits).

[Tauri_J]

Prangli is a very technical stage and theres a lot of time to win there. A proper wake up for the drivers :)

[AnttiL]

Prangli is a very technical stage and theres a lot of time to win there. A proper wake up for the drivers :)

Yesterday someone said on twitter that SS1 is very technical :D

Prangli is partly technical, yes, but there's also long fast sections where you drive at the top gear for kilometres.

[Tauri_J]

Yesterday someone said on twitter that SS1 is very technical :D

Prangli is partly technical, yes, but there's also long fast sections where you drive at the top gear for kilometres.

Every stage here has those sections more or less :)

[AnttiL]

Every stage here has those sections more or less :)

True. Otepää is probably the only stage which is more twisty all the way through.

[Tauri_J]

just watched an stream interview with Urmo.

SS2, the longest stage could be very crucial, seems not difficult stage but its actually quite tricky. Could be big time differences on the first pass.

Says even if its not raining anymore, its already looking good for Ogier with the amount of rain it has come down so far.

and the drivers will jump 200 times during the whole rally :D

One thing from that interview was that they think Prangly will be the fastest stage of the rally...126km/h. I cant agree to that lol :D

[AnttiL]

One thing from that interview was that they think Prangly will be the fastest stage of the rally...126km/h. I cant agree to that lol :D

It will be Kanepi or Arula I’d say. 135 km/h.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Some info about the rally conditions, his driver Karl Kruuda and himself in this interview with co-driver, Dale Moscatt.
https://www.rally.com.au/moscatt-flies-aussie-flag-in-estonia/

[Rallyper]

Don´t forget Pickems.

NOTE: Pickems closing tomorrow Friday att 1700 CET.

[HarriK]

SS1 https://youtu.be/MIv2aMbB2YU

Will they close asphalt road left on the starting place of ss1? I have not seen any maps of closing areas.

Edit
Found map
http://www.tartu.ee/sites/default/files/uploads/oige.pdf

[EstWRC]

Ogier saying he has never contested on a rally with so much jumps :D

[AnttiL]

Ogier saying he has never contested on a rally with so much jumps :D

In here Ogier, Lappi and Suninen say the artificial jumps are too big. Suninen is also worried for the people who use those roads for everyday commuting :D

https://www.rallit.fi/wrc-tahdilta-kritiikkia-viron-mm-rallin-erikoisuudelle-ovat-tosi-ilkeita-ja-isoja/

I would say the Estonian artificial jumps send the car higher in the air than on Finnish roads.

[pantealex]

https://rallyestonia.com/userfiles/Start%20List%20for%20Shakedown%20-1st%20passage.pdf

Reminder of Shakedown starting order for 1st try

[EstWRC]

Good morning. The sun is shining and just over an hour until shakedown

[AnttiL]

It seems some rain is forecast for Saturday-Sunday night, but not during the stages

[svstock]

Shakedown live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6jOAXp4pE8

[Tauri_J]

Why the fuck they always delay showing SD start?

[EstWRC]

wtf spectators there?

word was they were not alowed?

[Tauri_J]

Locals mostly.

[EstWRC]

why the hell arent they showing cars?

this is idiotic!!!

[AnttiL]

why the hell arent they showing cars?

this is idiotic!!!

Obviously it must be technical problems

[AnttiL]

Seems they only have one camera working

[Tauri_J]

That guy has a massive nose but the mask still keeps falling down lol.

[satukata]

Seems they only have one camera working

This is so poor effort again!!!

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhDM5AOXYAM7ANe?format=jpg&name=medium

[EstWRC]

This is so poor effort again!!!

exactly, im so tired of this ...


and as they show only first pass we didnt get to see anything

[Tauri_J]

Ott 2.58.8

[EstWRC]

all the rest goin for a second run, Ott coming back to service

[satukata]

The poorest shakedown live ever. And We waited this 6 months

[EstWRC]

this was embarassing, 26 minutes of just picture from service park

[satukata]

Is there ralliradio?

[AnttiL]

The poorest shakedown live ever. And We waited this 6 months

Obviously you don't remember Australia 2018. We saw how Molly jumped into Ostberg's car...and that was it.

[EstWRC]

https://g2.nh.ee/efe/1600x2000/526vXWtda-r9LB7bukesy9.jpg

[AnttiL]

https://g2.nh.ee/efe/1600x2000/526vXWtda-r9LB7bukesy9.jpg

source for this? I'd like to tweet it

[EstWRC]

here, scroll down https://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/rallyestonia/otsepilt-ja-blogi-esimest-korda-wrc-etapina-peetav-rally-estonia-algas-6-kilomeetrise-testikatsega?id=90944271

[Tauri_J]

2.58.5 for Ogier 2nd run

[AnttiL]

here, scroll down https://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/rallyestonia/otsepilt-ja-blogi-esimest-korda-wrc-etapina-peetav-rally-estonia-algas-6-kilomeetrise-testikatsega?id=90944271

You can see Neuville pushed the bale a bit forwards, on Rovanperäs run it's still mispositioned

[AnttiL]

2.58.5 for Ogier 2nd run

Kalle one tenth faster

[EstWRC]

Is there ralliradio?

estonian one with some english comments as well sometimes https://sport.postimees.ee/wrc/radio

[AnttiL]

Promising start from Loubet, immediately on the pace, compared to some other drivers who've had numerous hours in a WRC car...

[AnttiL]

Promising start from Loubet, immediately on the pace, compared to some other drivers who've had numerous hours in a WRC car...

Just as I posted, Katsuta made the 6th fastest time, ahead of Lappi and Suninen :D

[EstWRC]

Lappi getting up to speed, 2.58.6 now

[KKS]

Lappi must to really push hard to get results with that Fiesta... what a wrong choice to move from Toyota few years ago. Suninen must be fast but he drove a Fiesta :(

[AnttiL]

Lappi is now fastest

[Oraamat]

Tänak second run 2:57.2

[KKS]

how about road cleaning effect on Estonian roads?

[Thousandlakes]

Good to see Lappis pace. Ok it is just shakedown. Tomorrow everyone is in maximum attack. Lets see. Very nice that WRC is back in action.

[Oraamat]

Tänak third run 2:56.8

[quick]

Not much cleaning as long as the surface is damp

[AnttiL]

Not much cleaning as long as the surface is damp

Yeah, but some ruts could be forming already?

[KKS]

As much as now WRC2 guys are running so no any further improvements at RC1 could be done? Not very often that WRCar come to SD in a WRC2 pack

[AnttiL]

Apparently Suninen stopped on shakedown

[T16]

Crash.

[Tauri_J]

wow really?

[erikli2]

As much as now WRC2 guys are running so no any further improvements at RC1 could be done? Not very often that WRCar come to SD in a WRC2 pack

"Shakedown times are NOT final as some P1 drivers are still heading towards the start of the stage."

From Rally Estonia twitter 7 minutes ago.

[AnttiL]

As much as now WRC2 guys are running so no any further improvements at RC1 could be done? Not very often that WRCar come to SD in a WRC2 pack

No, I think it's quite typical. In 2018 I remember walking off the shakedown when it was just FWD cars and suddenly Tänak blasted through

EDIT: it seems many drivers completed their third run just a while ago but weren't able to improve on the time. I suspect there's ruts on the road. Most likely this is also why they waited, to get a feel on driving in the ruts as it will be on the second pass.

[AnttiL]

"Shakedown times are NOT final as some P1 drivers are still heading towards the start of the stage."

From Rally Estonia twitter 7 minutes ago.

I think this was a reply to Dirtfish who already wrote an article about Lappi setting the fastest time on the shakedown

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhD9ol8XcAETSna?format=jpg&name=medium

[Tauri_J]

DNS was the last thing Teemu and M-Sport needed. Thank god its easily fixable.

[AnttiL]

Hopefully no hidden rollcage damage

[Thousandlakes]

Good to see that 15 drivers in R5 category are less than second per kilometre speed from each other. Tight battle will be there as well.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice gallery from SD seeing there was little live coverage:

https://www.ewrc-results.com/photo/61497-rally-estonia-2020/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport pair not hopeful of beatimg the Toyota's & Hyundai's...

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/m-sport-pair-dont-expect-to-fight-toyota-hyundai-in-estonia/

Plus M-Sport is bringing a damper upgrade to Estonia to cope with the Rally Finland-like jumps, but that brings another slight setback for Suninen due to his lack of familiarity with the new damper.

“[Friday] will be my first kilometers with this car in this type of conditions, and actually I’m having my first jumps with this damper that I have on this rally, so there’s a lot of question marks in my mind,” he said.

[DocMS]

Who ever updating WRC.com really needs to learn which cars each are driving https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200904/05d94a27eb9192ce55d504f61254547a.jpg

Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk

[drive]

Didnt filmed much, better to watch, but knew that you lot are waiting for some videos 😀 so few my takes
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QosDyFo3fRuFEGSV6
3 hours of pure exitment 😀

[EstWRC]

Tänak onboard https://youtu.be/0kK7yrxymEo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Teemu Suninen Racing @TeemuSuninenRac

Shakedown was challenging for us and it wasn’t the kind of start for the rally we planned. Let’s try to find a good rhythm and feeling for the driving. Thanks to the team for patching up the car after the unfortunate slip.

[EstWRC]

shakedown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rQBSu24dw0

[dimviii]

Lappi has new Estonia notes after co-driver binned them

Following Rally Estonia's original cancelation, Janne Ferm got rid of his pacenotes

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/lappi-has-new-estonia-notes-after-co-driver-binned-them/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads Østberg @MadsOstberg

Shakedown ✅ Quickest R5 through.
Had a bit of a scare on the last run when we encountered two moose in the stage !

[EstWRC]

from wrc plus it shows they will start in championship order to SS1

[Rallyper]

Last chance. Only 30 mins left for Pickems...

[AnttiL]

from wrc plus it shows they will start in championship order to SS1

Same at the notice board


https://rallyestonia.ee/userfiles/Start%20List%20for%20Section%201%20-%20TC%200%20-%20Friday%204th%20September%202020.pdf

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/alekslesk/status/1301819195974389762

[dimviii]

was it really so rough?

Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
It’s so rough on the Shakedown, there’s really not so much to be learned by continuing with another run! The risk is we’ll get a puncture or damage the car, so we’re heading back to service now to get ready for tonight’s first stage
Thumbs up
@RallyEstonia

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFKoAjWoAMzLSr?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

The Belgian driver will approach this Rally Estonia with a lot of confidence, and thinks that due to the weather conditions (it has been raining a lot in recent days), he should not be too disadvantaged by his third place in the order of departure Saturday morning.

"We had a good feeling as soon as we entered the shakedown with the car, underlined Thierry Neuville at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special envoy of the RTBF in Estonia. By being third on the road, we were able to surrender Keep in mind that the conditions were not too bad, even if the road deteriorates at first before improving afterwards. We will have to spit in our hands tomorrow, but that is also the objective: give it your all right from the start. With the rain it is difficult to determine which will be the best position in the starting order. I think that if the roads remain as wet as this morning, starting first is not too much bad. Then from the fifth, sixth or seventh place it will get better again. But I think the differences will be minimal. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_neuville-se-cracher-dans-les-mains-et-tout-donner-des-le-debut?id=10576355&utm_source=rtbfsport&utm_campaign=social_share&utm_medium=twitter_share

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bit wild by Neuville.

[EstWRC]

Awesome tricky stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is the WRC+ 'No Comms' option working for people ? Mine keeps reverting back to English on it's own.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice run Lappi.

[mknight]

Interesting to see direct comparison between the updated i20 in the main team and the old one of Loubet on this stage.

The new one sinks and dives around like a Yaris does, the old one is this super-stiff looking thing standing high on top of the springs.

[AnttiL]

Awesome tricky stage.

More narrow and tight than I thought from recce videos. Very nice!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So much better having the SSS on gravel when it's a gravel event.

When they have them on tarmac the cars look pretty awful on their gravel wheels and suspension.

Good start Rally Estonia.

[dimviii]

Finally that one was a ''joke'' = understood that was an improper comment.


lol

Rovanperä Kalle - Halttunen Jonne
"It was a nice test event, good to be back in the car. For sure i'm a bit sad because we weren't the fastest Toyota every stage. We made good progress with the car."

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rovanpera-finding-fast-rallies-easier-than-he-expected/

[AnttiL]

It was obviously a joke all along, if you have ever listened to Kalle’s stage end interviews. It’s his style.

[dimviii]

Interesting to see direct comparison between the updated i20 in the main team and the old one of Loubet on this stage.

The new one sinks and dives around like a Yaris does, the old one is this super-stiff looking thing standing high on top of the springs.

Loubet is with new aero btw

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhF8LUrWkAMwqmm?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhF8PLxX0AE_VSh?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[mknight]

Loubet is with new aero btw



You mean old aero I guess. Cause your pictures show the exact differences:
- rear wing
- roof scoop
- small wings above and behind front wheels copied from Toyota
- sideplates on the lower front sides
(not shown are the vertical plates in the rear wheelarches on new Hyundais)

Btw. Loubet has aero that is even pre-Finland and Estonia last year, so over 14 months. Basically he runs similar car that Breen run on rally Estonia last year. Both the looks and especially the behavior of the car shows how much Hyundai changed since then.

[dimviii]

You mean old aero I guess.

yes my bad.

[AnttiL]

Prangli beginning is very quick, Ogier didn't really shift down from 6 during the first road

[AnttiL]

Wow that Prangli road around 2:20...just wide and flat out

[AnttiL]

Am I alone here? :D All Estonians on the stage and center Europeans still sleeping? :D

[Rally Hokkaido]

Am I alone here? :D All Estonians on the stage and center Europeans still sleeping? :D
I'm here, just made pasta for my lunch in Obihiro.

[AnttiL]

Surprisingly Neuville fastest at split 2, maybe there's anyway some cleaning!

[satukata]

Soittimena?

[jonkka]

Surprisingly Neuville fastest at split 2, maybe there's anyway some cleaning!

Rovanpera faster still so maybe - or then it's the driver.

[satukata]

Splittimes?

[AnttiL]

Rovanpera faster still so maybe - or then it's the driver.

I'm quite sure the next driver will be even faster!

[jonkka]

Splittimes?

At least at wrc.com those don't refresh themselves, choose another stage and back again and you'll see the splits.

[jonkka]

I'm quite sure the next driver will be even faster!

And a lot faster, Tanak is!

[AnttiL]

Suninenn seemed to lose 3 seconds at the first split

[steve.mandzij]

Anywhere other than WRC.com with splits? I hate the new app, I can't stand it at all.

Anyway, Rovanpera is flying! My new idol to replace Latvala; he's even got the same warmup hand gesture!

[jonkka]

Suninenn seemed to lose 3 seconds at the first split

And three seconds more on third one while keeping it at quite level at second split.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Ott not the fastest !

[jonkka]

Tanak loses a lot on final section... Not fastest anymore?

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä stage win!

[AnttiL]

Breen coming well

[jonkka]

Breen coming well

Indeed, at level with Neuville despite being slower on first split.

[Päss1928]

No stage end interviews on some of them? wtf? Would have wanted to hear what Ott had to say about losing 3s in the last sector.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Great time from Breen, 1.3 secs slower than Kalle.

[AnttiL]

No stage end interviews on some of them? wtf? Would have wanted to hear what Ott had to say about losing 3s in the last sector.

I'm quite sure it has to do with top speed since the end of the stage had a long straight

[EstWRC]

Ott and Neuville with very bad ending, Breen not so so couldn’t be only car related.

E: Ott put wrong gear going on to the tarmac part in the end. Wondered why it looked so slow

[erikli2]

Gryazin is crazy fast as usual, but needs to calm down.

[AnttiL]

Veiby plowed the chicane coming to tarmac

[AnttiL]

Just as Ogier turned onto the wider road...would have been a very long straight with big jumps, shame we didn't see them. The beginning is indeed quite technical, the rest of the stage very fast

[Rally Hokkaido]

The surface of SS3 looks quite loose for Ogier ! Or is just the very technical first part?

[AnttiL]

The surface of SS3 looks quite loose for Ogier ! Or is just the very technical first part?

I think it was already on SS2. The technical part is just soft anyway for everyone

[AnttiL]

Kanepi was a slower stage than I predicted from the recce video (the camera hides the tighter corners like on super special), only 120 km/h for Ogier

[satukata]

Ralliradio?

[Rally Hokkaido]

Rovanpera has hit something on right rear and is losing heaps of time.


Edit: RR tyre has delaminated

[dimviii]

Valmar Viisel
@paddocknews
#RallyEstonia SS2 Georg Gross Crash

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhINWUhXsAAVkWk?format=jpg&name=900x900

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhIORaHXgAEL1MP?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

Solberg fastest.Waiting for Ostbergs comments.

[satukata]

Shame for Kalle. Now he get bad starting position rest of rally

[dimviii]

Gryazin spin
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1302124801574739968

[HarriK]

Veiby Lost time a lot ss3

[cali]

SS2 Egon Kaur fastest R5

[dimviii]

Kaur faster from Solberg at ss 2

[Rally Hokkaido]

WRC Rally Estonia 2020 HERE (https://hdstream.us/Rally-Estonia/)

Why don't you give up? Everyone here knows your scam

[jonkka]

Tanak on a mission...

[able1]

Katsuta faster time than Ogier .... first ive seen it happen ;)

[dimviii]

Breen almost equal with Tanak at first splits

[jonkka]

Breen is doing really well - and now with Neuville past Ogier and Evans it's Hyundai 1-2-3?!

[mknight]

Breen is doing really well - and now with Neuville past Ogier and Evans it's Hyundai 1-2-3?!

Indeed, very good from Breen. First time since first leg of rally Finland last year that he shows something, about time.

[dimviii]

Slowest average stage so far and Hyundais at 1-2-3 positions

[able1]

Breen almost equal with Tanak at first splits

Looks like Breen has hit a sweetspot setup wise during this weekend, and it shows on leaderboard.

[dimviii]

also Katsuta with very good pace so far.

[dimviii]

flagBreen Craig - Nagle Paul
"Dropped a second or two, someone pulled a huge rock. Touched it, hesitated for two-three k's. It's nice."


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhIcRtmXsAYIWSA?format=jpg&name=900x900

[dimviii]

Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
Got a puncture 5km before the finish on SS3 - not ideal, but 2nd fastest #WRC3 on the stage and not a massive time loss so we push on!
Flexed biceps

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai 1-2-3. Maybe they finally found something for fast gravel. Breen said the i20 was a lot different than he drove before. They have been busy during lockdown.

[AnttiL]

Hyundai works better on technical sections, Toyota on fast sections. Also Ogier and Evans suffer from road cleaning

[AnttiL]

I surely didn't expect Fourmaux to lead WRC2

[jonkka]

Evans got a problem?

[dimviii]

Bulacia faster r5 at ss 4 so far

[Portimao]

This rally is not for M-Sport

[flykas]

Ogier got the pace, though looked unhappy at the finish:]

[jonkka]

Results sits quite in order - first three Hyundais, then four Toyotas and finally three Fords... Obviously Loubet will slot in between the last two but currently it's quite well ordered...

[Negaiss]

If where was a Championship of liveries in world of autosports, Solberg family would not have to worry about coming to podiums, and could go home straight away !!!

[AnttiL]

Greensmith is just going nowhere.

[Simmi]

Greensmith is just going nowhere.

I know the Fiesta is falling off a bit but he's definitely being shown up by Loubet. I assume that's got to be an older spec Hyundai.

[Sulland]

If where was a Championship of liveries in world of autosports, Solberg family would not have to worry about coming to podiums, and could go home straight away !!!

that bad?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhIuJD1UcAAWTM1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[Sulland]

For people more interested in Rally2, All Live is rubbish. Why dont they continue with live coverage and interviews when they have time?

Not even the splits they manage to keep live for that class!
Not good for their sponsors, and possibilities to sell inn more, if they get close to 0 publisity!

[Koppomsbo]

If where was a Championship of liveries in world of autosports, Solberg family would not have to worry about coming to podiums, and could go home straight away !!!

👏🏻🥇

[T16]

Greensmith is just going nowhere.
Was just about to ask if he’s made any mistakes? Or is this really his pace?

[dimviii]

very unpredictable standings at r5 cars for me.
Fourmaux faster from Huttunen
Kajto slightly slower from Solberg
Bulacia equal with Pietarinen
Kaur almost on par with Solberg

[RS]

I surely didn't expect Fourmaux to lead WRC2

Me neither, but he's only 4th in R5 class.. WRC2s again behind WRC3s.

[Lead]

Great pace from Kaur. Skoda must be much better than Proto or whatever he was driving before.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhI0tdaWsAAyX0L?format=jpg&name=large

[flykas]

Evan’s lost his rhythm?

[Sulland]

Evan’s lost his rhythm?

Did he have a hard crash, that shook his head as well as body?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhI2z-5WsAAN5lU?format=jpg&name=large

[erikli2]

Haybales would probably have been a better option than concrete barriers at the outside of a corner.

[Franky]

Haybales would probably have been a better option than concrete barriers at the outside of a corner.

Those barriers are there to protect the property.

[SubaruNorway]

Evan’s lost his rhythm?

Seemed like he had a puncture or something at the end of a stage, hard to know as we haven't been getting much info at the stage ends really

[EstWRC]

So Ott saying in service he had puncture on the first and then managed after that. Except on SS3 where he wanted get time back.

[AnttiL]

Great pace from Kaur. Skoda must be much better than Proto or whatever he was driving before.

Thos Proto things are based on Group N Mitsubishis, obviously Rally2 Skodas are faster :)

[AnttiL]

For people more interested in Rally2, All Live is rubbish. Why dont they continue with live coverage and interviews when they have time?

Not even the splits they manage to keep live for that class!
Not good for their sponsors, and possibilities to sell inn more, if they get close to 0 publisity!

They have 15 onboard camera kits which cost like 100 000 euros a piece. We have 11 WRC cars so there's four cameras left for WRC2 crews, and that's what they've been showing. In addition, the schedule of this rally is so tight that once 15 cars have passed the next stage is already starting.

[tr4m]

They have 15 onboard camera kits which cost like 100 000 euros a piece.
Do you know what these "kits" consist of? Hovever I try to think about it, I can't see what brings up the kit price to anywhere near this pricetag.. Did you accidentally add an extra zero?

[AnttiL]

Do you know what these "kits" consist of? Hovever I try to think about it, I can't see what brings up the kit price to anywhere near this pricetag.. Did you accidentally add an extra zero?

Multiple cameras and the transmitter gear. No extra zeros.

[dimviii]

Jari Huttunen
@HuttunenRacing

Not the best morning loop for us. Problems with the power steering and one puncture. Fourth in WRC3 after SS6. #RallyEstonia #WRC3




Michelin Motorsport
@Michelin_Sport
#RallyEstonia - #Tyre Info - SS7-SS11

All the @Michelin
@OfficialWRC
drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force M6 (Medium)

[dimviii]

Rally Estonia
@RallyEstonia
·
2m
You should Really be impressed by the current leader of #JWRC,
@robertvirves
. This guy only has 16
rally starts overall. His 2019 season was his first ever proper full season and his first time in an R2 car.

Keep an eye on him!

[satnav]

The start line of SS10 has been moved slightly.


https://rallyestonia.com/userfiles/Bulletin%20No.3.pdf

[dimviii]

starting order
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJi2yIXsAMvGau?format=png&name=small

[jonkka]

Neuville loses a minute?

[mousti]

Neuville loses a minute?And 15-16 seconds

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONEPLUS A6013 met Tapatalk

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJm5FIXsAENKLD?format=png&name=small

[dimviii]

wtf Ogier and Breen with tyre out of rim.

#RallyEstonia - SS7 - Amazing time by Elfyn despite the puncture! 4.2 off Rovanperä's time is an incredible effort!

"It just let go on the straight.. we didn't touch anything. Just on the tarmac section we were flat out and it popped."


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJlmy5XsAEyKGO?format=png&name=small

[dimviii]

Henry Lääne
@henrylaane
Kaur has dropped to second behind Solberg, but that's still amazing. He had a puncture, a bonnet that flew up in front of the window on a stage, many moments and a co-driver who fell silent because of a landing from a jump. Holy hell and cow!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJnBB9X0AIoz0b?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Big dent to Neuville's title chances.

[jonkka]

Big dent to Neuville's title chances.

Yes, with fewer events every point counts twice as much as before.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pressure ramps up on Breen now for the Manu points.

[dimviii]

hmsgofficial

UPDATE SS7: after damaging the rear-right wheel on SS7 @thierryneuville is unfortunately forced to retire for the day at @RallyEstonia. #HMSGOfficial

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak is in charge. Flying again.

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhJm5FIXsAENKLD?format=png&name=small

Where have I seen this before?

https://d2d0b2rxqzh1q5.cloudfront.net/sv/1.67/dir/7eb/image/7eb0b04cd8c7c739ed9aa1ffa1fb687b.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good stage by Breen extending his lead over Ogier.

[satukata]

Is there Ralliradio?

[Franky]

Is there Ralliradio?

The Estonian one is Elmar - https://elmar.elu24.ee/radio

[masa90]

Damn, Thierry surely out of the title race again this year. Well now a tree way battle.

Did he crash or was it a technical error?

[Augury]

Ruts threw him off the line and he hit something in the side of the road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow Breen great time !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@Craig_Breen
Finally! We have been a while waiting for this again, fastest on SS9 of #RallyEstonia ! The car does absolutely everything I ask of it it's absolutely joyous !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen: "Pressure ? Pressure is for tyres !" :D

[gorganl2000]

quite an interesting rally this is turning out to be so far.
it's really good to have back some wrc action after the long break and Estonia is a great venue

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville explains:

https://twitter.com/thierryneuville/status/1302260715177349122?s=20

[the sniper]

Nicolas Gilsoul really braced himself for a big off on that one.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Arghhh Gus ! Wow that was nearly all over... lucky no trees there.

[the sniper]

Hopefully Loubet isn't following his lines too closely!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Very disappointing return to WRC action for the M-Sport crews.

Of course no-one expected them to be challenging the top places, but the gap to them is wider than I feared. And being slower than Katsuta is hard to take, even though he has driven well.

Not what they needed after the tough lockdown and loss of income and testing.

[AnttiL]

Of course no-one expected them to be challenging the top places, but the gap to them is wider than I feared

I was expecting exactly this. I mean, go look at Rally FInland 2019 results. Of course you could argue they were missing the top driver, but it's obvious that the car wasn't just performing well enough on the high speed sections. And then it was annnounced their new engine upgrade was postponed to Monte Carlo, and they have missed all the testing from this year whereas other teams have been doing multiple days per each driver.