Crystal Ball Predictions 2020

[AnttiL]

Is it time yet?

Rules copied from last year


5 predictions per person (please exercise some self-discipline in sticking to just 5)
Predictions need to be specific/measurable
Award for most of 5 predictions correct
Honour for the most extreme prediction that turns out to be correct

Predictions close 5PM French time on Wednesday January 22th i.e. when Monte Carlo Shakedown begins

Tip - always shine your Crystal Ball to get clearer predictions

Writing here as a reminder for the end of the year –*Chile was already cancelled before this thread started.

[pantealex]

-69 will take more than 1 podium
-Champion is Seb again
-more than 4 different winners
-Hyundai and Toyota will not win all events
-there will be RC2/Rally2/R5/nonWRC20 car in Top6 for some rally

[AnttiL]

1. Ogier will be more comfortable in his new car than Tänak. I predict Ogier to be more often faster than Tänak in rallies where neither has technical issues. If this proves to be difficult to measure, we’ll go down to counting better stage results...
2. Neuville and Tänak will end up in a situation where one has to help the other for personal title or stop racing each other to preserve manufacturer points. Subsequently Autosport will publish an article which talks about the tense situation in the team between these two star drivers.
3. Latvala will continue his 2018/2019 form in the rallies he starts. He will make top 3 stage times, but won’t finish on the podium.
4. Rovanperä will get his career first stage win on a super special stage in Mexico.
5. Only 4 stages (not counting repeats) will be over 35 km long and only one of them over 40 km.

[deephouse]

1. Tanak will overperform Neuville. Neuville will be bothered so he leave the team at the end of the year.
2. Ogier will not retire.
3. There will not be enough interest in introducing new regs by the manufacturers.
4. Solberg will be WRC2 champion
5. WRC+ live will not be upgraded at all.

[Allez Andruet]

Ok, here we go...

1. Toyota Yaris will win more rallies than Hyundai i20 in the WRC.
2. Neuville will win more rallies than Tänak.
3. Ogier to give his first not-so-definitive-like-answer for a question about 2021 before Mexico - yet he won't officially announce anything before Wales.
4. M-Sport driver will finish fourth in the drivers' championship.
5. Second consecutive season without a win for the Finns.

[EstWRC]

1. For the first time in seven years, Monte Carlo is not won by Ogier.
2. Andrea Kaiser will tweet “Shityota” after the Yaris of Ogier breaks down 3 rallies in a row (Mexico, Argentina, Portugal)
3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one.
4. Neuville will say at every rally that Ogier has the best car. Finishes the season second again.
5. Everyone will use rally2 at Rally Safari.

[Katvala]

1. Tänak will not be the champion of 2020
2. Mikkelsen will win a world rally
3. Hyundai will win the manufacturer championship
4. Latvala will win one rally
5. Rovanperä will have 3 podiums

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[GigiGalliNo1]

1. Neuville World Champ
2. Toyota Manu Champs
3. Rovanpera with two Podiums in 2020
4. JML to win a WRC event as Privateer
5. Ogier battles Neuville for title *see 1. above :D

[denkimi]

1. Ogier will win the drivers title
2. Hyundai will win the manufacturers title.
3. Rovanpera will be demoted from the main team to a second before finland
4. Lappi will win a rally
5. If ogier wins the championship, he will continue in 2021

[AnttiL]

3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one. .

Come on, try a bit harder :D This is like saying "there will be a stage with jumps in Finland"

[TheFlyingTuga]

1 - Neuville will be WC
2 - Hyundai will make two in a row for Manufactures Champ.
3 - Ford will win in Safari
4 - Ogier will be pissed with the team from Portugal forward. Will still be in the mix for the champ until last round
5 - Rovanpera will not finish a rally normally. He will finish every round under rally2

[EstWRC]

Come on, try a bit harder :D This is like saying "there will be a stage with jumps in Finland"

I played it safe to at least get one prediction right :D

[Maui J.]

1. Neuville will end up 3rd for the season and leave to be M-Sports lead driver
2. Paddon will podium on Rally NZ
3. Evans will grab his second WRC victory, once again at Rally GB
4. Rovenpera to win Rally Finland
5. Safari cars will look awesome!!!!! (with animal bars, high suspension, side spotlights and a spare tyre on the roof...actually that's all just wishful thinking).

[TypeR]

1. Tänak wins the 2020 WDC
2. Rovanperä gets his first podium
3. Safari Rally conditions are very rough and one R5 will be in top6
4. Ford wins one rally
5. Ogier is happy with the car, but as he is used to get help from teammates, we will hear comments towards the team

[Mk2 RS2000]

1. Dani Sordo will win at least one WRC event
2. Once again Neuville will crumble under pressure and loose the WRC drivers title after leading at the mid point in the season
3. The relationship between Neuville and Tanak will deteriorate as the season progresses
4. The FIA will bring in emergency measures to reduce the amount of aero assistance on cars after a number of accidents caused or made worse by sudden loss of downforce
5. Hayden Paddon will have more than one WRC drive during the season

[Sulland]

1. Toyota will win the manu gold.
2. Toyota will win the drivers title
3. Ogier will not win the drivers title, and will retire
4. Solberg will win rallies in 2020, and do so well that he will drive R1 in 2021.
5. Rovanpera will make the other drivers wonder how he can be so quick on Loose surface. Still need more practice on asphalt.

[stefanvv]

4. Neuville will say at every rally that Ogier has the best car. Finishes the season second again.

Did you just predicted Tanak will be 3rd:rolleyes:

[RS]

1) Ogier will be WDC
2) Hyundai will be manufacturers champion
3) Lappi will comprehensively outperform Suninen
4) Loeb will properly retire at the end of the year
5) Mads will moan

[cali]

1. Toyota will win the manu gold.
2. Toyota will win the drivers title
3. Ogier will not win the drivers title, and will retire
4. Solberg will win rallies in 2020, and do so well that he will drive R1 in 2021.
5. Rovanpera will make the other drivers wonder how he can be so quick on Loose surface. Still need more practice on asphalt.Sooo... Evans for the title??

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[pantealex]

1. Ogier will be more comfortable in his new car than Tänak. I predict Ogier to be more often faster than Tänak in rallies where neither has technical issues. If this proves to be difficult to measure, we’ll go down to counting better stage results...
2. Neuville and Tänak will end up in a situation where one has to help the other for personal title or stop racing each other to preserve manufacturer points. Subsequently Autosport will publish an article which talks about the tense situation in the team between these two star drivers.
3. Latvala will continue his 2018/2019 form in the rallies he starts. He will make top 3 stage times, but won’t finish on the podium.
4. Rovanperä will get his career first stage win on a super special stage in Mexico.
5.

I'll get back to #5 once M-Sport has confirmed their lineup.

#5 ?

[mknight]

1. Hyundai will win manu title
2. Hyundai will use different driver(s) in an i20WRC than the 4 signed ones (Tanak, Neuville, Sordo, Loeb) on at least 3 rallies, not necessarily in the same "manufacturer" team
3. Rovanpera will have a few really weak rallies (slowest of the 8 "fulltime" factory cars)
4. MSport will not get a rally win
5. MSport driver will not finish better than 5th in 2020 season overall standings

[steve.mandzij]

Yay crystal ball time!

1. Toyota relinquishes their WCC in the final round.

2. Ogier WDC, Neuville runner up as Tanak is forced to adapt his driving style to Theirry's car.

3. Evans gets close to winning a rally but only manages 2nd place out of his characteristic misfortune. He'll be the best of the rest again.

4. Rovanpera wins in Sweden or Sardegna but struggles on tarmac and bins a few Yarises, returning in rally 2 and ends up in the top 3 of most power stage points won.

5. Latvala bins it into a snowbank in Sweden on Friday but wins in Finland, crying on the podium yet remaining out of a seat for 2021 :(


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[atsiotras79]

1. Ogier WDC
2. Rovanpera will win a rally
3. Lappi will win a rally
4. Subaru will announce involvement in 22. 😊
5. A sixth driver will drive for Toyota. (Apart from Ogier, Evans, Rovanpera, Latvala, Taka.)

[mknight]

Yay crystal ball time!
3. Evans gets close to winning a rally but only manages 2nd place out of his characteristic misfortune. He'll be the best of the rest again.


He wasn't "best of the rest" this year, so this is impossible. He was 5th as per article 10.1.1 of the sporting regulations:


10.1.1 According to the greater number of first places, then second places, then third places, etc.,
achieved in the final classifications on their respective Championship, counting only those rallies which have
served to make up their points total.


"Shared 4th" is just something D. Evans made up without looking at the standings and actually checking rules.

[steve.mandzij]

He wasn't "best of the rest" this year, so this is impossible. He was 5th as per article 10.1.1 of the sporting regulations:


"Shared 4th" is just something D. Evans made up without looking at the standings and actually checking rules.Fair, small mistake. Sorry for stripping dear Andreas of his well deserved and quite prestigious fourth place.

Did I strike a nerve?

[AnttiL]

#5 ?

Tonight ;)

EDIT: Done. I actually created a route-related prediction which was better than anything I could come up with about M-Sport: Only 4 stages (not counting repeats) will be over 35 km long and only one of them over 40 km.

[kollma]

1. Five drivers to win a rally in 2020.
2. Neuville will have more retirements due to the crashes than rally wins (including Rally2/Superally or how it is called nowadays).
3. Rovanperä will finish at least three times in Top3 but no win.
4. At least five different drivers to score a point in Toyota WRC car - and the same for Hyundai.
5. At least three stages cancelled due to the weather conditions (in one event or in total for more events).

[pantealex]

Only 4 stages (not counting repeats) will be over 35 km long and only one of them over 40 km.



Unique one.
I like.

[Portimao]

1. No podium for Rovanera this season
2. Ogier World Rally Champion
3. Lappi overall worse than Suninen
4. Most Powerstage wins for Ogier
5. No M-Sport rally win

[Indreq]

1. Neuville will have more crashes / driving mistakes (with car damage) than rally wins.
2. Loeb will not challenge for win in any rally and will not continue in 2021.
3. Only "Big 3" will win rallies.
4. Ogier will complain about team management after Toyota repeatedly breaks down.
5. Top 5 at the end of year will be Tänak, Ogier, Evans, Neuvillle and Lappi.

[skarderud]

1 Tänak WDC

2 Hyundai WTC

3 Neuville leaves Hyundai midseason after complete breakdown

4 Mikkelsen more than 7 rallies in Hyundai, 2nd best pointscorer in the team

5 Loeb's last season

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[Zeakiwi2]

1 Tanak and Ogier consistently faster than the rest - early in the season - till *road sweeping* (likely big topic for 2020) evens the battle.

2 Rovanpera - 1 podium and 1 crash of the season (I hope not)

3 Evans - 1 event win - through consistency and road position

4 Minor Faulty batch of wrc tyres - at 1 event causes extra puncture or two.

5 WRC - at least one stand in co-driver situation or change of co-driver (after in-car meltdown)

[P.T.L]

1. Lappi 3 or more podiums.
2. Hyundai i20 first ever podium in Finland.
3. Ogier wil not win in Monte.
4. Ogier will be WC.
5. Triple podium for Hyundai in Kenya.

[able1]

1. Tanak WDC
2. Last season for Loeb
3. Rovanpera struggles with pace and consistency
4. Evans wins an event
5. Tanak wins Rally Finland

[Got Mail]

1. Rovanpera becomes youngest ever WDC
2. Ogier retires
3. Loeb retires
4. Gryazin wins WRC2
5. Lappi wins 2 x WRC rounds

[spark13]

1. Ogier world champion before last round in Japan.
2. Neuvilee crash chasing Tanak three rallys in a row - Mexico, Chilie, Argentina.
3. Evans win 2 rounds. One is Kenya.
4. Katsuta scores less than 10 points in a season.
5. Hyundai will fire Adamo.

[Suusameister]

1. Ogier wins in Finland now
2. Tänak likes the car
3. Neuville wins 10% more stages than last year
4. Suninen will have more points than Lappi but less stage wins
5. Evans to win one asphalt event and to be third on the next rally

[reff92]

1)Evans isnt title condender because Ogier plays him down
2)Tänak win at least 1 rally
3)Lappi win some stages
4)Rovanperä crashes hard on one rally as neuville in chile
5)Ogier leaves after 2020

[AnttiL]

2)Tänak win at least 1 rally
3)Lappi win some stages

5)Ogier leaves after 2020

Again, try a bit harder :D

[reff92]

Again, try a bit harder :D
Cristal ball is a little bit fogged right now after vacation.

[Morte66]

1. Ogier driver's champion
2. Hyundai constructor's champion
3. Paddon does not finish a rally in a WRC1
4. Ogier retires at the end of the year as scheduled
5. Lappi does better than Suuninen

[djip]

1-Lappi will beat Sunninen hands down
2-Evans will win one
3-Tanak will beat Neuville over the season - the more as season progresses (and Neuvième will crash several times while trying)
4-Paddon will enter NZ and will finally get to the start
5-Tanak will beat Ogier for the title

[dupanton]

1 Ogier and Hyundai are the champions
2 Neuville beats Tanak by 3 points to be 2nd. Again.
3 Rovanpera doesn't get higher than P3 in a rally
4 Toyota will change 2 out of 3 drivers at the end of the year
5 Meeke does a couple of rallies in an R5, but not in a WRC.

[Teme]

1. Both championships still open when Rally Japan starts
2. We get a new driver to WDC top-3
3. 1-2 finish for Finns in Rally Finland
4. A C3 WRC will finish a rally in podium
5. A new manufacturer announces plans for WRC 2022

[T16]

1 Evans will have more points than Ogier after the first two rallys.
2 Lappi will finish second on the Monte.
3 Evans will finish 3rd overall in WDC.
4 Latvala will finish 2nd in Sweden.
5 Breen will drive for Hyundai in Wales and finish on the podium.

[Portimao]

1 Evans will have more points than Ogier after the first two rallys.
2 Lappi will finish second on the Monte.
3 Evans will finish 3rd overall in WDC.
4 Latvala will finish 2nd in Sweden.
5 Breen will drive for Hyundai in Wales and finish on the podium.
Way too optimistic in my opinion, but we'll see :)

[Winner]

1. Ogier will have the WDC won so early in the season everybody will say rallying has got boring again.
2. Neuville Faster than Tanak and people will say wait until Tanak gets used to the car, then the car is built around Neuville he cant go any faster.
3. A driver that has not yet signed for a team will win a rally.
4. Rovanpera will win at least one rally.
5. Tanak will go crying back to Toyota to try and get his old seat back.

[KiwiWRCfan]

with a 1 2 3 4 5 imbedded in 1 2 3 4 5

1. Retained - Ott Tanak defends his WDC and elects to use no 1 in 2021
2. Returning - Seb Marshall codrives for 2 different drivers in WRC cars during season
3. Competitive - 3rd place less than 13.3 seconds from winner creating closest podium since Acropolis 2011
4. Bombshell - Adamo drops Seb Loeb to a 4th car for one event
5. Multiple winners - 5 drivers will win a rally in 2020

[Jewy46]

1 - Evans will shine at Toyota with only 1 or 2 poor events, will win at least 1 event.

2 - Rovanpera will crash more than Meeke, and won't be as fast

3 - Breen will be in a WRC car for at least 3 events (I predicted the same for 2019 :) )

4 - A round will be cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (possibly nature again)

5 - Paddon will enter and finish on the podium in Rally NZ

[racerx1979]

1. Someone will win
2. Many will lose
3. Ogier will play games
4. Tanak will have regrets and say "basically" many times throughout the year
5. It will snow in Sweden and the rally will NOT be canceled
6. Lappi will win an event
7. Adamo will give many big hugs to his team

[EstWRC]

Cmon. Try a bit harder.

[AnttiL]

4. Tanak will say "basically" many times throughout the year

What about "It is what it is" or "tricky conditions"?

[Allez Andruet]

2 - Rovanpera will crash more than Meeke, and won't be as fast


None of my business ofcourse but the second part of your prediction might be a bit challenging to verify.

[er88]

1) Ogier powers to the title and thanks Tanak publicly, because it's all Ott's doing (moving to Hyundai and basically handing Ogier a seat in the Yaris). Estonia realises Tanak has been a mug, so half of his fans crawl into hibernation until 2021 comes around.

2) Despite Ogier winning the title, 3 Toyota's will retire from mechanical failure on the same rally, prompting NOT to finally stop lurking and post again. His first post back doesn't really need me to introduce it - but for those on here who are either new or a bit slow - his post will contain the now renowned "Village Team" term.

3) Suninen and Lappi become romantically involved with eachother after spending countless quiet evenings drowning their sorrows, upon realising Kalle is already on the same level/ better than the both of them.

4) Evans wins an event (his 1st proper without a massive tyre advantage), but has an overall up and down season. However, David Evans proclaims 2021 will be Elfyn's year and he can win the championship after a solid end to the 2020 campaign.

5) MKnight will spend the 2020 season trawling through this thread and using peoples predictions against them in any arguments/ debates/ differing of opinions that naturally pop up on this forum ;)

[mknight]

5) MKnight will spend the 2020 season trawling through this thread and using peoples predictions against them in any arguments/ debates/ differing of opinions that naturally pop up on this forum ;)


Yes, you won a point already.

The reason is very simple. Some people make predictions here and 1 month later deny they ever said something like that. This is the easiest place to find it in a few seconds.

You romantic prediction will be brought up every time an interesting picture comes up from that camp.

[Jewy46]

None of my business ofcourse but the second part of your prediction might be a bit challenging to verify.

Fair point, it will be difficult. I suppose I will have to go through the each rally from 2019 and 2020 and see who from Meeke/Kalle had rally winning/podium pace from the start, would that be fair?

[TypeR]

Weird to read that all of a sudden Tänak can't drive in 2020 anymore and Ogier is already WDC.. like Tänak would have to drive a R5 car this year + all the **** talk about him regretting the team change in his comments.

[liposh]

Hyundai had a lot of issues with set up even this year despite pure speed is OK (great, actually). Don´t look at Neuville, look at second best Hyundai each rally and its speed. And now look at speed of second best Toyota. And now look at speed of Ogier in comparison with Lappi. And I assume Lappi is not the slowest driver there. ...All and all it is tricky decision to switch from Toyota to Hyundai. Even speed of Ford is much more predictable...Pure speed not as good as Hyundai and Toyota, but good handling which means you can drive for 4th or 5th place when it suits you.

[denkimi]

Weird to read that all of a sudden Tänak can't drive in 2020 anymore and Ogier is already WDC.. like Tänak would have to drive a R5 car this year + all the **** talk about him regretting the team change in his comments.
Most still believe we will have the same top 3 in the championship as the last few years.

So it's not that tanak suddenly can't drive anymore, it's just that ogier suddenly seems to be in the fastest car and tanak in the most difficult one to drive with neuville as his teammate.

[cali]

Weird to read that all of a sudden Tänak can't drive in 2020 anymore and Ogier is already WDC.. like Tänak would have to drive a R5 car this year + all the **** talk about him regretting the team change in his comments.I liked that part when Tänak was going to cry and beg his way back to TGR. Funny stuff here lately..

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[cali]

Hyundai had a lot of issues with set up even this year despite pure speed is OK (great, actually). Don´t look at Neuville, look at second best Hyundai each rally and its speed. And now look at speed of second best Toyota. And now look at speed of Ogier in comparison with Lappi. And I assume Lappi is not the slowest driver there. ...All and all it is tricky decision to switch from Toyota to Hyundai. Even speed of Ford is much more predictable...Pure speed not as good as Hyundai and Toyota, but good handling which means you can drive for 4th or 5th place when it suits you.Mikkelsen (-3 rallies) and Sordo (-5 rallies) didn't do even the full program and one was ahead of JML and Meeke while Sordo was only 9 pts behind 2nd best Toyota. Sordo even did manage to snatch a win while other Toyota's were nowhere near a win. Should I go on...

While I admit Hyundai seem to be more difficult to set up you paint a very dark picture which is not backed up by stats. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200108/d02323b36dbaffc283035d8e0e126614.jpg

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[spiderem]

Hyundai had a lot of issues with set up even this year despite pure speed is OK (great, actually). Don´t look at Neuville, look at second best Hyundai each rally and its speed. And now look at speed of second best Toyota. And now look at speed of Ogier in comparison with Lappi. And I assume Lappi is not the slowest driver there. ...All and all it is tricky decision to switch from Toyota to Hyundai. Even speed of Ford is much more predictable...Pure speed not as good as Hyundai and Toyota, but good handling which means you can drive for 4th or 5th place when it suits you.

Hyundai is the only manufacturer last year with 2 different rally winners... Just saying.

[TWRC]

1. Drivers' title to be decided at the last round, while the manufacturers' will be decided earlier.
2. Rovanpera to get a podium during the season
3. Surprise C3 WRC programme with someone
4. Loeb to have at least 1 podium
5. Latvala to retire at the end of the year

[janvanvurpa]

Hyundai had a lot of issues with set up even this year despite pure speed is OK (great, actually). Don´t look at Neuville, look at second best Hyundai each rally and its speed. And now look at speed of second best Toyota. And now look at speed of Ogier in comparison with Lappi. And I assume Lappi is not the slowest driver there. ...All and all it is tricky decision to switch from Toyota to Hyundai. Even speed of Ford is much more predictable...Pure speed not as good as Hyundai and Toyota, but good handling which means you can drive for 4th or 5th place when it suits you.

Sorry but even after 35 years of racing and rally I still have a hard time seeing differences of 0,01% in speed... Maybe it's my advanced age. Maybe its something else but the differences between the cars and drivers do amount to fractions of 1% and that is hard to look at and see. Maybe I need better glasses???

[BigWorm]

1. Another rally will get cancelled this year
2. Hyundai will score their first podium in Finland
3. M-Sport's new engine will reward them handsomely with a couple of wins after its introduction
4. Adamo will bench Neuville 1 rally
5. Ogier will announce mid season he's doing DTM and Le Mans next year

[tommeke_B]

1. More WRC cars on the stages (overall) than last season.
2. Both Suninen and Lappi fight for wins in several events.
3. Sordo to win another event.
4. Safari Rally becomes a complete failure, remembering us why this country lost it's place in WRC.
5. 3-way fight for the title until the penultimate event.

[HKSjbg]

1. Ogier will be champion.
2. No one outside of Ogier, Tanak & Neuville will break into the top 3.
3. Evans will be the only other rally winner outside championship’s the top 3.
4. Rovanpera’s position in the Toyota team will be questioned by the media in the first half of the season due to poor results/crashes. Podium finishes in the second half of the season will see him then hailed as the best thing since sliced bread.
5. Meeke will develop the R5/Rally2 Yaris for Toyota/TMR but will only drive it twice in the WRC - at Wales Rally GB and Rally Japan after winning the British Rally Championship in a Toyota GB supported Yaris in R4 kit/Rally2 kit form, though the R5/Rally2 will be homologated in time for the final round in September.

[the sniper]

5. Meeke will develop the R5/Rally2 Yaris for Toyota/TMR but will only drive it twice in the WRC - at Wales Rally GB and Rally Japan after winning the British Rally Championship in a Toyota GB supported Yaris in R4 kit/Rally2 kit form, though the R5/Rally2 will be homologated in time for the final round in September.

If this all actually happens, I'm calling you out as being Akio Toyoda! :D

[er88]

I liked that part when Tänak was going to cry and beg his way back to TGR. Funny stuff here lately..

Sent from my ONEPLUS A5010 using TapatalkI think some of you take this thread to seriously.

[AnttiL]

4. Rovanpera’s position in the Toyota team will be questioned by the media in the first half of the season due to poor results/crashes. Podium finishes in the second half of the season will see him then hailed as the best thing since sliced bread.

I hope people are not actually expecting too much from Kalle. Remember, he's 19 years old and it's he's driving his first WRC rallies. He has a lot of future ahead and the team are willing to wait and let him learn.

[Franky]

I think some of you take this thread to seriously.

Yes, this thread is more like the Pub thread's special edition

[HKSjbg]

I hope people are not actually expecting too much from Kalle. Remember, he's 19 years old and it's he's driving his first WRC rallies. He has a lot of future ahead and the team are willing to wait and let him learn.

I hope it was clear that was more of a comment on how the media will treat him, not my personal opinion or my expectations of him

[AnttiL]

I hope it was clear that was more of a comment on how the media will treat him, not my personal opinion or my expectations of him

Right, I shouldn't have posted before my first cup of coffee :)

[AnttiL]

3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one.


Here we go!

https://twitter.com/MiniRallyGT/status/1215218631665160193

[EstWRC]

I meant on this forum

[Rallyper]

My Crystal ball 2020:

1 Loeb to win one event.
2 Neuville WDC
3 MSport on podium more than 50% of the season...
4 Ogier wins Rally Finland
5 JML on podium at one occasion or more.

And pls, put comments to Pub-thread..not here...

[rp]

1. Ogier will take his 7th WRC title
2. Hyundai will win the Manufacturer´s title
3. Only Ogier, Neuville & Tänak will win in 2020
4. Kalle Rovanperä will take his 1st Podium during the WRC 2020
5. No Citroën C3 WRC during the WRC 2020

[Norm75]

Following on from my successful crystal ball 19' predictions

1. Drivers championship goes down to the wire with Ogier, Tanak and Neuville all tied on points going into the last round.
2. At the last round Toyotas wheel problems rear their ugly head again, and Ogier breaks a rim on the first day putting him out of championship contention. Mrs Ogier takes to Twitter and pronounces the Yaris a piece of shit. Ogier retires.
3. Due to the circumstances mentioned in #2 team orders come into play at hyundai with Adamo allowing the driver that gives him the best compliment about the pasta carbonara he serves them at final lunch break to take the spoils.
4. Or, in the slim chance I may be wrong about my 3rd prediction, Adamo engineers it so that Neuville becomes 2020 champion, thus preventing Toyota from signing Neuville for 2021 and keeping the top drivers within his squad.
5. Despite a couple of strong results, JML's hopes of signing for Toyota again for 2021 are fruitless, as he is now seen as a paying driver. 3rd seat goes to Meeke, in a deal set out a year before as part of Ogier taking his seat in 2020. Meeke sites it as best chance for a championship as Ogier will be retired, hence the lack of information around his contract negotiations and a continued loyalty to Toyota throughout 2020.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Do not expect any predictions from Sebastian Vettel
https://twitter.com/sebvettelnews/status/1217127858130313217

[cali]

This year's Crystal Ball gets better and better...
Like one said here - you take it far too seriously... :grin:

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[Mintexmemory]

Well I crawl out of hibernation to find I had to mod something for the first time in 3 years!!!

Anyway my 5

1 Ogier to be WDC
2 Safari to be abandoned before second day owing to driver strike over safety
3 WRC2 driver to finish 7th in WDC
4 Breen to replace Loeb in Hyundai for last 4 rounds
5 Evans to be 3rd in WRC

Hopefully we can keep this thread adult(ish)

[BurgundyRedMamba]

My first time for Crystal Ball predictions, so let's make it interesting:

1. Neuville starts the year strong and takes the lead in championship early in the year. Tänak and Ogier bounce back by the summer break. Going into the last race of the year, only 6 points seperate the Golden Three. One of those three has a puncture or other non-driver error in the last race. Two of them take the championship battle into the last day of the last rally.
2. Lappi will have a strong middle part of the year, will win 2 rallies this season with one coming in Finland. Will finish 4th overall in the Championship.
3. Evans will be super inconsistent, will have 3-4 podiums in total, but also retire or go into Rally 2 at least 4 times. Rovanpera also inconsistent, will show some great speed at times, but highest finish will be 5th overall.
4. Hyundai comfortably secure manu's championship three rounds before the end of the year. Two times we will see Hyundai 1-2-3.
5. New manufacturer will be announced somewhere end of the year to join in 2022.

[meh]

1. Loeb is not fastest (end result) Hyundai in any rally
2. Safari will be cancelled
3. Tänak champion again - because of strong second half of the season. (Neuville is asking to be number 1 on-mid season, because he has more points, Adamo refuses).
4. Hyundai champion again - but Toyota is not too far away
5. Lappi is doing at least 2 crashes (from top3 position) when fighting for the win

[COD]

1 Ogier will leave the champioship with yet another title
2. Hyundai will have major issues between Tanak and Neuville
3 Sweden will be cancelled
4 Toyota manu champion
5 Lappi to outperform Suninen

[Rally Power]

Hope still in time…
1. Hyundai champ with a 1-2 (Tanak wins and Neuville ends as close P2);
2. Ogier P3 with only 2 (lucky) wins, leaving at the end of the season;
3. One win for Evans, other for Lappi and 2 podiums for Rovanpera;
4. Ostberg is WRC2 champ and Katjo gets WRC3 title (if he enters the series);
5. 2022 Hybrid systems will cost less than expected and Subaru will announce their future engagement with PS team.

[AnttiL]

Yeah, last minute to put in your predictions, officially it ends when shakedown starts ;)

[Rally Power]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/rally/1-million-euro-wrc-hybrid-cars-too-expensive-says-malcolm-wilson

Still time to review prediction 5!

Actually I had Mr. Wilson estimation in mind, which sounds a bit exaggerated especially once the tender process is still open and its results will only be known at the end of March: https://legal.fia.com/web/appeloffre.nsf/F1AA7144B5082934C12584D500563B6B/$FILE/ITT%20WRC%20Hybrid%20System%202022-2024_Final%2019.12.2019.pdf?openelement

Anyway, before talking about hybrid systems costs it’d be interesting to know how much a WRC car really costs these days, but that’s a subjet for another thread...

[wia5958]

1 ogier to be wdc
2 Evans to be in the scenery and out of rally on at least 7 events
3 lappi to have 5 podiums
4 tanak finishes 5th in wdc citing setup problems with the Hyundai
5 Loeb to win 1 event

[Eli]

1 Tanak will be champion once again
2 Loeb will leave the WRC scene for good at the end of 2020.
3 Hayden will compete at his home event
4 Evans to take second win of his career whilst starting to challenge for wins from the off in MC.
5 Lappi will be left out without a seat for 2021

[drsemurg]

1 Tanak will champion
2 Toyota will win the manufacturers
3 Turkey, only 5 WRC car finish rally, 6th will be a r5
4 Rovanpera will be youngest rally winner at WRC.
5 Gryazin will win WRC2

[AnttiL]

No more predictions please :bomb: :burn:

[EstWRC]

1. For the first time in seven years, Monte Carlo is not won by Ogier.
2. Andrea Kaiser will tweet “Shityota” after the Yaris of Ogier breaks down 3 rallies in a row (Mexico, Argentina, Portugal)
3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one.
4. Neuville will say at every rally that Ogier has the best car. Finishes the season second again.
5. Everyone will use rally2 at Rally Safari.

yes, got at least one correct.

[Eli]

yes, got at least one correct.

Was hard to guess it would be Neuville though ;)

[EstWRC]

Was hard to guess it would be Neuville though ;)

nope...he was very close last year and the choice was only between him and Ott anyway

[KiwiWRCfan]

Just 1.0 seconds away from my number 3 prediction coming true.
Close but not close enough in a sport decided by tenths of a second

[HKSjbg]

1. Ogier will be champion.
2. No one outside of Ogier, Tanak & Neuville will break into the top 3.
3. Evans will be the only other rally winner outside championship’s the top 3.
4. Rovanpera’s position in the Toyota team will be questioned by the media in the first half of the season due to poor results/crashes. Podium finishes in the second half of the season will see him then hailed as the best thing since sliced bread.
5. Meeke will develop the R5/Rally2 Yaris for Toyota/TMR but will only drive it twice in the WRC - at Wales Rally GB and Rally Japan after winning the British Rally Championship in a Toyota GB supported Yaris in R4 kit/Rally2 kit form, though the R5/Rally2 will be homologated in time for the final round in September.

I think I may have heavily underestimated Evans’ potential for this year! Also I’m gonna be way off with point #4

[Eli]

1 Tanak will be champion once again
2 Loeb will leave the WRC scene for good at the end of 2020.
3 Hayden will compete at his home event
4 Evans to take second win of his career whilst starting to challenge for wins from the off in MC.
5 Lappi will be left out without a seat for 2021

Well well, at least one prediction right.

[EstWRC]

1. For the first time in seven years, Monte Carlo is not won by Ogier.
2. Andrea Kaiser will tweet “Shityota” after the Yaris of Ogier breaks down 3 rallies in a row (Mexico, Argentina, Portugal)
3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one.
4. Neuville will say at every rally that Ogier has the best car. Finishes the season second again.
5. Everyone will use rally2 at Rally Safari.

i can write this off, he hasnt mentioned the "toyota is the best car" at all so far interestingly

[Rally Power]

Hope still in time…
1. Hyundai champ with a 1-2 (Tanak wins and Neuville ends as close P2);
2. Ogier P3 with only 2 (lucky) wins, leaving at the end of the season;
3. One win for Evans, other for Lappi and 2 podiums for Rovanpera;
4. Ostberg is WRC2 champ and Katjo gets WRC3 title (if he enters the series);
5. 2022 Hybrid systems will cost less than expected and Subaru will announce their future engagement with PS team.

I now hope to be wrong on #3 and see Evans getting more totally deserved wins like this one; and more brilliant podiums for Rovanpera too!

[steve.mandzij]

Yay crystal ball time!

1. Toyota relinquishes their WCC in the final round.

2. Ogier WDC, Neuville runner up as Tanak is forced to adapt his driving style to Theirry's car.

3. Evans gets close to winning a rally but only manages 2nd place out of his characteristic misfortune. He'll be the best of the rest again.

4. Rovanpera wins in Sweden or Sardegna but struggles on tarmac and bins a few Yarises, returning in rally 2 and ends up in the top 3 of most power stage points won.

5. Latvala bins it into a snowbank in Sweden on Friday but wins in Finland, crying on the podium yet remaining out of a seat for 2021 :(


Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk#3 and #5 scrapped then, and I'm right about to scrap #2 too.

#4 is still alive and kicking though!

[AnttiL]

4. Rovanperä will get his career first stage win on a super special stage in Mexico.

I'm happy to get this one wrong.


2. Neuville and Tänak will end up in a situation where one has to help the other for personal title or stop racing each other to preserve manufacturer points. Subsequently Autosport will publish an article which talks about the tense situation in the team between these two star drivers.

Oh how times have changed already...as if Autosport would write such articles anymore

[mknight]

Oh how times have changed already...as if Autosport would write such articles anymore

Meh, I'd say it still counts as all Autosport articles were from one journalist. So you'll just use what he writes at DirtFish.

[T16]

1 Evans will have more points than Ogier after the first two rallys.
2 Lappi will finish second on the Monte.
3 Evans will finish 3rd overall in WDC.
4 Latvala will finish 2nd in Sweden.
5 Breen will drive for Hyundai in Wales and finish on the podium.

1 from 5 is ok I guess.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Alex Gelsomino has a good crystal ball.
In June 2014 he predicted an Estonian would be WRC champion in the next 5 years
https://twitter.com/AlexGelsomino/status/483241595660431360

[Fast Eddie WRC]

When I predicted that at least one event would get cancelled due to environmental/political reasons maybe I should have added virus pandemic...

Apart from stopping fan access to the service park hopefully we should be ok. You cant get more outdoor in the fresh air than at a rally ! ;)

[Norm75]

Apart from stopping fan access to the service park hopefully we should be ok. You cant get more outdoor in the fresh air than at a rally ! ;)
It isn't the fact that fans won't be in confined spaces infecting everyone Eddie, it's various government restrictions on travel and quarantine that will put events at the risk of being cancelled.

For example this weekends MotoGP race in Qatar has been cancelled, following race has been postponed indefinitely.
Although this weekends support races moto2 and moto3 are going ahead because those classes have been testing there this week, but anyone travelling from Italy has to be quarantined for 14 days, many teams are based in Italy in MotoGP so it has been canned.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It isn't the fact that fans won't be in confined spaces infecting everyone Eddie, it's various government restrictions on travel and quarantine that will put events at the risk of being cancelled.

For example this weekends MotoGP race in Qatar has been cancelled, following race has been postponed indefinitely.
Although this weekends support races moto2 and moto3 are going ahead because those classes have been testing there this week, but anyone travelling from Italy has to be quarantined for 14 days, many teams are based in Italy in MotoGP so it has been canned.

WRC Teams arent based in heavily infected countries so travel from them should be ok at the moment.

If it be becomes are proper worldwide pandemic then rallying will be as badly hit as everything else. But that will be the least of our concerns...

[EstWRC]

1. For the first time in seven years, Monte Carlo is not won by Ogier.
2. Andrea Kaiser will tweet “Shityota” after the Yaris of Ogier breaks down 3 rallies in a row (Mexico, Argentina, Portugal)
3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one.
4. Neuville will say at every rally that Ogier has the best car. Finishes the season second again.
5. Everyone will use rally2 at Rally Safari.

Ticked!

[pantealex]

Does that number 5. mean that no one is using WRC machinery, just Rally2 ;)

[AnttiL]

4. Rovanperä will get his career first stage win on a super special stage in Mexico.

I was quite close to get this right.

[Jewy46]

1 - Evans will shine at Toyota with only 1 or 2 poor events, will win at least 1 event.

2 - Rovanpera will crash more than Meeke, and won't be as fast

3 - Breen will be in a WRC car for at least 3 events (I predicted the same for 2019 :) )

4 - A round will be cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (possibly nature again)

5 - Paddon will enter and finish on the podium in Rally NZ

Unfortunately I was right about no4 and looks like a few more rounds to follow! Wish I hadn't been.
My no1 and no5 may have been proven correct also without the current circumstances

[Eli]

1 Tanak will be champion once again
2 Loeb will leave the WRC scene for good at the end of 2020.
3 Hayden will compete at his home event
4 Evans to take second win of his career whilst starting to challenge for wins from the off in MC.
5 Lappi will be left out without a seat for 2021

Well, who would have thought this year would happen as it did, the 3rd prediction now seems pointless (although he did reveal afterwards he did plan on doing NZ). However, did get the 4th prediction right.

[steve.mandzij]

Yay crystal ball time!

1. Toyota relinquishes their WCC in the final round.

2. Ogier WDC, Neuville runner up as Tanak is forced to adapt his driving style to Theirry's car.

3. Evans gets close to winning a rally but only manages 2nd place out of his characteristic misfortune. He'll be the best of the rest again.

4. Rovanpera wins in Sweden or Sardegna but struggles on tarmac and bins a few Yarises, returning in rally 2 and ends up in the top 3 of most power stage points won.

5. Latvala bins it into a snowbank in Sweden on Friday but wins in Finland, crying on the podium yet remaining out of a seat for 2021 :(




I guess I got too specific here... Even though 1 and 2 are still possible (and perhaps even 4) 3 and 5 were either way off or as things stand now totally impossible :/

[KiwiWRCfan]

Cristal ball is a little bit fogged right now after vacation.

Cause of fog has since been identified as covid

[mknight]

1. Hyundai will win manu title
2. Hyundai will use different driver(s) in an i20WRC than the 4 signed ones (Tanak, Neuville, Sordo, Loeb) on at least 3 rallies, not necessarily in the same "manufacturer" team
3. Rovanpera will have a few really weak rallies (slowest of the 8 "fulltime" factory cars)
4. MSport will not get a rally win
5. MSport driver will not finish better than 5th in 2020 season overall standings

1. Right
2. Right
3. Tecnically correct ( the best kind of correct), both in Monza and in Sardinia (crashing position)
But not correct in the way I meant it, so I'd say max half right.
4. Right
5. Right

4,5-5

[Eli]

1 Tanak will be champion once again
2 Loeb will leave the WRC scene for good at the end of 2020.
3 Hayden will compete at his home event
4 Evans to take second win of his career whilst starting to challenge for wins from the off in MC.
5 Lappi will be left out without a seat for 2021

1- Wrong
2- Right
3- Technically was supposed to happen, but didn't so no.
4-Right
5- Sad to say this but right...
So..3/4 out of 5 right, depends how if you count Hayden or not...

[denkimi]

1. Ogier will win the drivers title
2. Hyundai will win the manufacturers title.
3. Rovanpera will be demoted from the main team to a second before finland
4. Lappi will win a rally
5. If ogier wins the championship, he will continue in 2021
1. Correct
2. Correct
3. Wrong
4. Wrong
5. Correct

3 out of 5.

[AnttiL]

1. Correct
2. Correct
3. Wrong
4. Wrong
5. Correct

3 out of 5.

Ogier decided already before winning the title that he continues ;)

[denkimi]

Ogier decided already before winning the title that he continues ;)
He has won the title and he continues next year, so that counts as correct. :p

[Rallyper]

My Crystal ball 2020:

1 Loeb to win one event.
2 Neuville WDC
3 MSport on podium more than 50% of the season...
4 Ogier wins Rally Finland
5 JML on podium at one occasion or more.

And pls, put comments to Pub-thread..not here...

0 out of 5. Beat that record guys... ;) :) :)

[TWRC]

1. Drivers' title to be decided at the last round, while the manufacturers' will be decided earlier.
2. Rovanpera to get a podium during the season
3. Surprise C3 WRC programme with someone
4. Loeb to have at least 1 podium
5. Latvala to retire at the end of the year

1 - 50% right
2 - 100%
3 - almost happened, hopefully next year with the big aero version
4 - 100%
5- nope

Well, surprisingly I had much more correct than last year, crystal ball calibration must have been better. :D Of course these weren't too risky.

[steve.mandzij]

Yay crystal ball time!

1. Toyota relinquishes their WCC in the final round.

2. Ogier WDC, Neuville runner up as Tanak is forced to adapt his driving style to Theirry's car.

3. Evans gets close to winning a rally but only manages 2nd place out of his characteristic misfortune. He'll be the best of the rest again.

4. Rovanpera wins in Sweden or Sardegna but struggles on tarmac and bins a few Yarises, returning in rally 2 and ends up in the top 3 of most power stage points won.

5. Latvala bins it into a snowbank in Sweden on Friday but wins in Finland, crying on the podium yet remaining out of a seat for 2021 :(


Sent from my Pixel 3a using TapatalkSums up my year that not a single one of these was right.

Maybe Rovanpera is in the top 3 of power stage points though?

[mknight]

Shared 3rd with Evans.

[T16]

1 Evans will have more points than Ogier after the first two rallys.
2 Lappi will finish second on the Monte.
3 Evans will finish 3rd overall in WDC.
4 Latvala will finish 2nd in Sweden.
5 Breen will drive for Hyundai in Wales and finish on the podium.

1.

[rp]

1. Ogier will take his 7th WRC title
2. Hyundai will win the Manufacturer´s title
3. Only Ogier, Neuville & Tänak will win in 2020
4. Kalle Rovanperä will take his 1st Podium during the WRC 2020
5. No Citroën C3 WRC during the WRC 2020

4/5. Evans & Sordo were better than I predicted, but otherwise went well! :)

[AnttiL]

1. Ogier will be more comfortable in his new car than Tänak. I predict Ogier to be more often faster than Tänak in rallies where neither has technical issues. If this proves to be difficult to measure, we’ll go down to counting better stage results...
2. Neuville and Tänak will end up in a situation where one has to help the other for personal title or stop racing each other to preserve manufacturer points. Subsequently Autosport will publish an article which talks about the tense situation in the team between these two star drivers.
3. Latvala will continue his 2018/2019 form in the rallies he starts. He will make top 3 stage times, but won’t finish on the podium.
4. Rovanperä will get his career first stage win on a super special stage in Mexico.
5. Only 4 stages (not counting repeats) will be over 35 km long and only one of them over 40 km.

1. Ogier won 25 stages and Tänak 12. Ogier won two rallies, Tänak only one. Ogier led rallies for 30 stages, Tänak only 16. I think it's quite clear.
2. I don't think we had this situation
3. Based on one stage in Sweden, he would have been as slow as Katsuta, but would he have improved?
4. This was close. He won the short super special in Mexico, but won the Sweden power stage already before
5. I think we only had Cetibeli in Turkey over 35 km. Based on itineraries of rallies which got cancelled, this would have been wrong anyway.

So 1/5 :)

[Morte66]

1. Ogier driver's champion
2. Hyundai constructor's champion
3. Paddon does not finish a rally in a WRC1
4. Ogier retires at the end of the year as scheduled
5. Lappi does better than Suuninen

1 yes
2 yes
3 yes I think?
4 come on Seb you know you want to, still a few weeks to enjoy the fire at home and decide how nice it would be
5 yes

4/5 and still dreaming?

[Katvala]

1. Tänak will not be the champion of 2020
2. Mikkelsen will win a world rally
3. Hyundai will win the manufacturer championship
4. Latvala will win one rally
5. Rovanperä will have 3 podiums

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1. Correct, Ogier won
2. Mikkelsen did win a WRC3 rally
3. Correct, Hyundai won the title
4. Very wrong
5. No, only one

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[KiwiWRCfan]

with a 1 2 3 4 5 imbedded in 1 2 3 4 5

1. Retained - Ott Tanak defends his WDC and elects to use no 1 in 2021
2. Returning - Seb Marshall codrives for 2 different drivers in WRC cars during season
3. Competitive - 3rd place less than 13.3 seconds from winner creating closest podium since Acropolis 2011
4. Bombshell - Adamo drops Seb Loeb to a 4th car for one event
5. Multiple winners - 5 drivers will win a rally in 2020

1 wrong
2 wrong
3 correct Sardegna P1 to P3 just 6.1 seconds
4 wrong
5 correct achieved on 6th round

[TheFlyingTuga]

1 - Neuville will be WC
2 - Hyundai will make two in a row for Manufactures Champ.
3 - Ford will win in Safari
4 - Ogier will be pissed with the team from Portugal forward. Will still be in the mix for the champ until last round
5 - Rovanpera will not finish a rally normally. He will finish every round under rally2

1. Wrong... At this point it will be as Hirvonen or Latvala. Good for wins, will challenge for the champ, will never win it.
2. Right... Adamo is a winner. Let's go number 3
3. Well, no Safari...
4. Kind of right. Ogier sometimes was critic but in the end it was him again
5. Got this one very wrong. Great season by the kid.

[Sulland]

1. Toyota will win the manu gold.
2. Toyota will win the drivers title
3. Ogier will not win the drivers title, and will retire
4. Solberg will win rallies in 2020, and do so well that he will drive R1 in 2021.
5. Rovanpera will make the other drivers wonder how he can be so quick on Loose surface. Still need more practice on asphalt.

1. Wrong
2. Right
3. Wrong. But had retired if not for Corona.
4. Won rallies, but probably not Rally1 next year.
5. I would say this is not far off.

[EstWRC]

1. For the first time in seven years, Monte Carlo is not won by Ogier.
2. Andrea Kaiser will tweet “Shityota” after the Yaris of Ogier breaks down 3 rallies in a row (Mexico, Argentina, Portugal)
3. At some point during the season, there will be a deep discussion again how the best solution in the world is to dump current gen. cars and make R5 category the main one.
4. Neuville will say at every rally that Ogier has the best car. Finishes the season second again.
5. Everyone will use rally2 at Rally Safari.

only 1. and 3. right but im always writing these as half jokes.

[Jewy46]

1 - Evans will shine at Toyota with only 1 or 2 poor events, will win at least 1 event.

2 - Rovanpera will crash more than Meeke, and won't be as fast

3 - Breen will be in a WRC car for at least 3 events (I predicted the same for 2019 :) )

4 - A round will be cancelled due to unforeseen circumstances (possibly nature again)

5 - Paddon will enter and finish on the podium in Rally NZ

1 - Quite right I think, nearly won the Championship which I didnt expect!

2 - Hard to verify over such a short season but I'd say Im being proved wrong so far

3 - Breen did 2 events and would have done at least Ypres even in a short season so Im giving myself a win here :)

4 - Unfortunately I was right about no4 in a big way and wish I hadn't been.

5 - Again I'm going to give myself a (half) win here as it was confirmed Paddon had NZ planned in a Hyundai

[meh]

1. Loeb is not fastest (end result) Hyundai in any rally
2. Safari will be cancelled
3. Tänak champion again - because of strong second half of the season. (Neuville is asking to be number 1 on-mid season, because he has more points, Adamo refuses).
4. Hyundai champion again - but Toyota is not too far away
5. Lappi is doing at least 2 crashes (from top3 position) when fighting for the win

1. correct. Only 2 starts: Monte-Carlo 6. (Neuville 1.), Turkey 3. (Neuville 2.)
2. correct
3. wrong
4. very correct
5. wrong

[Teme]

1. Both championships still open when Rally Japan starts
2. We get a new driver to WDC top-3
3. 1-2 finish for Finns in Rally Finland
4. A C3 WRC will finish a rally in podium
5. A new manufacturer announces plans for WRC 2022

1. No
2. Yes, Evans! :)
3. No
4. No
5. I guess no..