[WRC] COPEC Rally Chile 2019

[Lead]

You guys have a pretty short memory.. yes he is pretty bad here but Mikkelsen finished second in Argentina just a couple of weeks ago.

Something isnt working for him at the moment. Maybe its the car, maybe himself... but probably both. Have to press *reset* button in his head.

[AnttiL]

What? They are that short of on board cameras?

It was mentioned by Julian Porter in a podcast that they have a limited number of very expensive onboard camera kits and if there's a privateer in a WRC car, it's more important than the WRC2 Pro guys. Kalle and Gus have onboard cameras, Mads doesn't (or it's not working).

The street stage wasn't actually half bad, it had some nice fast sections, but the five donuts was just overblown.

EDIT: The Highlight reel has onboard footage from Østberg, maybe the transmitter wasn't just working since he wasn't shown on All Live. Pedro Heller also had an onboard camera.

[Morte66]

So, what do we think about running order on the remainder of this rally?

Will it be an advantage to go early or late, overall?

[Morte66]

Yesterday there were a lot of drivers who were uncomfortable with the conditions, talking about lack of confidence, and so on. Loeb started badly, but somehow got it together after lunch and he's put in good times ever since. Whatever he did, to his car or his head, it's working. I guess that's why he has the record he has...

[wrc2017]

How does the nature of today's stages differ from yesterday?

[EstWRC]

more fast and flowing

[racerx1979]

Yesterday there were a lot of drivers who were uncomfortable with the conditions, talking about lack of confidence, and so on. Loeb started badly, but somehow got it together after lunch and he's put in good times ever since. Whatever he did, to his car or his head, it's working. I guess that's why he has the record he has...

He always gets faster as the rally progresses when he's comfortable. Dude is a calculated mofo and could be deadly once he figures the Hyundai out. Something Andreas still can't do and Neuville took years

[Gevin]

Just wow :D
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/363709934270324/

[RS]

It was mentioned by Julian Porter in a podcast that they have a limited number of very expensive onboard camera kits and if there's a privateer in a WRC car, it's more important than the WRC2 Pro guys. Kalle and Gus have onboard cameras, Mads doesn't (or it's not working).

The street stage wasn't actually half bad, it had some nice fast sections, but the five donuts was just overblown.

EDIT: The Highlight reel has onboard footage from Østberg, maybe the transmitter wasn't just working since he wasn't shown on All Live. Pedro Heller also had an onboard camera.

Hopefully Mads’ transmitter will be working today. I’m not sure how many people would consider Bertelli more interesting than Ostberg/Kalle etc.

[AnttiL]

So, what do we think about running order on the remainder of this rally?

Will it be an advantage to go early or late, overall?

Yesterday it was still quite damp from the Thursday rains but now it should be drier so it should be more of a challenge to be first on the road.


How does the nature of today's stages differ from yesterday?

More fast sections, less technical sections, but still a combination of both. The end of SS8/11 and the beginning of SS9/12 is super fast

[SubaruNorway]

I'm sure i saw a short clip with Østberg just before the finish of one stage, some of the cars now have HD camera's so maybe they bought a few more, price was 150.000€ for one kit wasn't it?

[mknight]

He always gets faster as the rally progresses when he's comfortable. Dude is a calculated mofo and could be deadly once he figures the Hyundai out. Something Andreas still can't do and Neuville took years

Loeb was the slowest Hyundai in 2 out of his 3 starts so far (and shared in Monte) and didn't get any faster on saturday /sunday in any of his 3 starts.

With C3 he was fighting on podium in each of the 3 rallies he drove and was fastest or shared fastest Citroen.

Here he put some good times in the afternoon but is still 6th. So basically he is just now coming to somewhere around his level in C3, about time.

Since you like to pick Mikkelsen out he led in the Hyundai on his first rally and led 2 out of first 3 starts. Concistency is another matter.
Only the top 3 have real consistency in fighting for podiums for the last year, and that's if we discount Ogier and Neuville in Finland.

[racerx1979]

Lol ∆

He was not comfortable with the car... He said that many times. He's getting used to it now, but let's give him a tons or testing and a year and a half like Andreas before we compare

[Tarmop]

Howcome you don`t get tired of this protective talking? He is in the king series, in a factory car, the same he started in back in 2017 and is not delivering, it is a miracle, in a situation where Hyundai desperately wants one of the titles.
Loeb, in Monte, in his first outing, was 7 and 8 for some time, climbed to 3rd once, finished in 4th. Third Hyundai crashed...
Sweden, struggled, but still, his last outing in a snowy event was 6 years ago? Third Hyundai was promising at some point, although being his home event, the end result and talk weren`t so good...pointswise, OK. Corsica, Loeb failed due to driving error and have to agree, nothing special afterwards, was otherways an interesting event also, with Ogier and Citroen also struggling. In his 4th outing with the i20, first one on gravel, six years later on moist/wet gravel, he was the closest man to Tänak last afternoon, whereas their third car, once again, is 8th.

[Allez Andruet]

Come on guys, let's just park that contest. I can be the referee and declare it a no-decision.

[AnttiL]

I'm sure i saw a short clip with Østberg just before the finish of one stage, some of the cars now have HD camera's so maybe they bought a few more, price was 150.000€ for one kit wasn't it?

They're supposed to have something like 15 kits. Østberg wasn't just shown on All Live at all so maybe the transmitter didn't work.

[Morte66]

Yesterday it was still quite damp from the Thursday rains but now it should be drier so it should be more of a challenge to be first on the road.

Well, my guy is fifth, so I'm gonna pray for rain. :)

[Gevin]

SO that was the JML mistake he was angry at

https://twitter.com/hjaakkola/status/1127159001966415873

[Gevin]

Well, my guy is fifth, so I'm gonna pray for rain. :)

Change for rain 0% saturday and sunday. So let the road cleaners do theyr work

[dimviii]

All the Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Medium (M6) except @OttTanak with 6M6.

[AnttiL]

Well, my guy is fifth, so I'm gonna pray for rain. :)

No rain coming. Besides on rain the few first starters would have the best conditions

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6SF-MOW4AAEWb5.jpg

[Rally Power]

Besides Tanak being already in dominant mode, it’s nice to see Latvala on the top 3, Loeb more at ease in the i20 and a proper fight at WRC2 Pro, for a change. 2nd leg is looking exciting.

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info - Day 2 morning

All the Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Medium (M6) except @OttTanak with 6M6.

#RallyChile #MichelinWRC

[er88]

Great seeing Jari properly on the pace again. Shame he's wasted the start of the season after a good end to last season, but hopefully he can kick on now.

Battle for 2nd should be great, there's a battle for 5th, and a battle at the back between Lappi, Suninen and Mikkelsen. Also that fight for the win in the R5s, so should be a quality days rallying

[Gevin]

That extra 25kg for Tänak is nothing if we look where he starts :) + he has 2 spare for last stage, so can swap for two new tyres

[dimviii]

Suninen

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_05_2019/post-365-0-40545000-1557576356.jpeg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_05_2019/post-365-0-43688100-1557576363.jpeg

[wrc2017]

That extra 25kg for Tänak is nothing if we look where he starts :) + he has 2 spare for last stage, so can swap for two new tyres im not sure why more drivers dont do this. the extra 25kg sure offset against 2 new fronts.. plus the added confidence of have another spare if you have a puncture.

[EstWRC]

Meeke ?

[wrc2017]

meeke stopped

[Gevin]

Meeke stopped

[wrc2017]

doesnt look like a puncutre.. thats 4mins now.

** moving

[Morte66]

oh god

[Gevin]

Meeke on move!

[Gevin]

5min he was stopped.

[EstWRC]

Latvalas first split +8 seconds?

[Gevin]

Latvala SPL1 +8,2s?

[er88]

Latvala???? Mikkelsen briefly in a ditch, thankfully he didn't get stuck

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke rolled

[Gevin]

Meeke rolled

[EstWRC]

somethings wrong with Latvalas car, has lost another 7 secs

[er88]

Fuck sake Jari was doing well :(

[Gevin]

Latvala +15,6s

[erikli2]

Jari might´ve been slowed down by Meeke

[er88]

Evans had a moment right at start after a compression

[EstWRC]

Latvala has held the gap now

did Meeke ruined his chance now ?

[Gevin]

Meekes car looks really bad. Whole front is gone and roof damaged

[er88]

Coverage so far has been poor.

[er88]

Loeb having a few moments too

[Gevin]

Ogier will catch Meeke soon

[Gevin]

Meeke onboard

1767

[wrc2017]

meek stopped again

[jonkka]

meek stopped again

Maybe to let Ogier past.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke waiting for Ogier to pass.

[Gevin]

Yeah, Ogier coming and not blocking him

[er88]

Neuville said Meeke went off on a very tricky section and caught out on the camber

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML caught Meeke..

[Gevin]

Latvala got blocked by Meeke. Thats why +19s :(

[er88]

Jari will get time back without a doubt

[EstWRC]

Ogier lost a bunch for Neuvilel here

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke and Latvala always seem to be involved in these incidents.

Ogier wasnt affected.

[er88]

Ogier complaining about the rear - surprise surprise

[Gevin]

Rovanperä 4,7s slower than Mikkelsen

[Essaj]

Mads seems to be in trouble and is loosing a lot of time

[EstWRC]

before the rally, seeing the pictures and stuff and hearing drivers comments...i was sure they all will enjoy it and its a pure racing rally.

but now you can see from their faces and read from their comments that no one is enjoying it at the moment. conditions so tough

[AnttiL]

Quite bad job from the director who didn't show footage of Meeke's car at the stop control. Instead we saw only incar footage. Or maybe it was a technical flaw?

[Gevin]

Well they didnt show it bcs Meeke was right after Ogier. They changed camera to inside view after Ogier left but actualy the cameraman did film Meekes car outside.

[er88]

Mads was having a good stage something has happened towards the end. Annoying as that battle was intriguing

[Gevin]

Ostberg now 38,6s behind Rovanperä

[AnttiL]

They changed camera to inside view after Ogier left but actualy the cameraman did film Meekes car outside.

Yes, at this moment the director should have changed to the camera filming Meeke's damaged car...

Also again All Live didn't show "all the drama, all the action" like it promises. The receiver aeroplane was at the end of the stage when Meeke rolled at the beginning, thus no footage, even from other cars, was available.

Mikkelsen's ditch moment or Evans' off was also missed.

[Morte66]

I wonder if Meeke's onboard will be present in the upload tomorrow.

[Gevin]

Lets see if we get Meekes car pic from twitter soon

[AnttiL]

I wonder if Meeke's onboard will be present in the upload tomorrow.

For sure we'll see that at least in the highlight reel.

[mknight]

Looking on splits Latvala lost about 15s so he should drop a few secs behind Neuville anyway.

[AnttiL]

Lets see if we get Meekes car pic from twitter soon

Probably low signal on the stage

[Gevin]

At least Meeke is with others on map near next stage. If there is no roll cage damage he basicly can survive these 2 stages and see what Toyota can do at service.

[AnttiL]

So this first stage of the day was about as slow as El Puma, but the two next ones should be a bit faster.

[Gevin]

https://www.upload.ee/image/9947759/Untitled.png

[dimviii]

nothing major

[Got Mail]

Ostberg's been stationery on the road section for a long time.

[er88]

Such a shame about Mads

[Gevin]

Ostberg is still at last stage finish. Looks like repairing something

[dimviii]

Sat 09:02 - Stage info: SS8
Maria Las Cruces 1, 23.09km Maria Las Cruces runs south to north along the Nahuelbuta mountain range at one of the highest points of the Arauco area. The road is wide for most of the way with plenty of fast bends and jumps before it becomes straighter near the finish. It’s uphill from start to finish and little tree cover means crews can see the challenge ahead. A drivers’ dream!

[AnttiL]

Sat 09:02 - Stage info: SS8
Maria Las Cruces 1, 23.09km Maria Las Cruces runs south to north along the Nahuelbuta mountain range at one of the highest points of the Arauco area. The road is wide for most of the way with plenty of fast bends and jumps before it becomes straighter near the finish. It’s uphill from start to finish and little tree cover means crews can see the challenge ahead. A drivers’ dream!

My analysis:


The stage begins on a quite wide road but turns after a kilometre onto a narrow forest road. It returns later onto the first road and gets quite fast and flowing with a few tighter corners. At 13.6 km there is a crest which could turn into a sideways jump. A chicane like series of tight bends appears at 14.5 km. Towards the end there are some very fast sections in the area where trees are cut down.

[Gevin]

Ostberg also on move now
3min between cars now.

[EstWRC]

very nice stage!

[Gevin]

very nice stage!

Even Bertelli said its best of the rally atm :D

[EstWRC]

suprising to hear from Lappi that he destroyed the tyes on previous one :eek:

[Lead]

Mikkelsen puncture or thats his speed ?

[Gevin]

That explains why Tänak was after Greensmoth on road section. Probaly put changed for new ones.

[Gevin]

Mikkelsen puncture or thats his speed ?

This is his speed. with 4 stages and no bigger mistakes he was 2 minutes off

[EstWRC]

Meeke one of the fastest in first split :D

[er88]

Lol Meeke

[AnttiL]

Meeke already faster than Evans on first split :D

[wrc2017]

Meeke one of the fastest in first split :D

Is meeke half wise!!!!??? Lol

[EstWRC]

man i love this stage, especially the ending

[TypeR]

why is Meeke pushing and taking so many risks at the moment?!

without windscreen also.. stupid guy, in case of another crash it's so dangerous..

[jonkka]

why is Meeke pushing and taking so many risks at the moment?!

He's got nothing to lose.

[Mirek]

Great stages today!

[Gevin]

If Meekes car still has 4 tyres on, then no problem driving fastest times :)

[er88]

Suninen and Lappi moving away from Mikkelsen....

[EstWRC]

and with no windscreeen! lol

[Gevin]

LOL! No windscreen also. NUTS

[EstWRC]

Loeb with amazing splits!

[denkimi]

why is Meeke pushing and taking so many risks at the moment?!

without windscreen also.. stupid guy, in case of another crash it's so dangerous..
Because he cannot control himself.

[jonkka]

It's all part of acclimatization course for Seb Marshall :D

[Gevin]

Wonder if its freezing inside car bcs wind and 190km/h driving

[er88]

Seb Marshall must be doing some job in there

[EstWRC]

Latvalas first split amazin, 1.7 secs quicker than Loeb

[er88]

Yeeees Jari come on!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb is mega on dry gravel.

[er88]

Loeb nearly 30s secs up on Mikkelsen.

[jonkka]

Wonder if its freezing inside car bcs wind and 190km/h driving

If rear-windows are intact then no because air is bottled inside and most of the airflow goes around the car despite broken windshield.

[er88]

Meeke looking super coool with that viser down

[EstWRC]

Ogiers split slow, +2.7

[Gevin]

Meeke still losng some roof parts on stage :D Mega

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Who needs aero ! ;)

[Tauri_J]

neuville 0kmh

[Gevin]

Neuville stopped

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville off

[er88]

Neuville and Ogier in trouble???

[EstWRC]

Neuville offf!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thats a big one.

[er88]

Fuck that's huge

[Gevin]

https://www.upload.ee/image/9947920/Untitled.png

[AnttiL]

Neuville still in the car?

[denkimi]

Any images?

[er88]

Get it shoved to the side ffs. Roll it over, there's people there...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lucky Latvala didnt collect it.

[Morte66]

He's got nothing to lose.

He's got five power stage points to lose, if he pushes too hard and drops out before that.

[EstWRC]

is Thierry ok?

i didnt see him

[TypeR]

is Thierry ok?

i didnt see him

I think he should be, coz if not then they would have pushed the SOS button

[AnttiL]

is Thierry ok?

i didnt see him

Probably would have been red flagged. Maybe he was warning the next drivers

[er88]

Latvala will get Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They said they're ok.

[TypeR]

seems like Loeb is taking another stagewin

[dimviii]

Lucky Latvala didnt collect it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6Sl3dPXoAARP-3.jpg

[er88]

Shame we don't have any footage of Meeke and Neuvilles rolls.

[AnttiL]

Everybody after Loeb had to lift on Neuville's place?

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport
‏ @HMSGOfficial
2m2 minutes ago

#WRC ⚠️ @thierryneuville & @nicolasgilsoul rolled on SS8. Medical assistance required for Thierry. More info to come later. #HMSGOfficial #RallyChile

[EstWRC]

hands down maestro!!!!! incredible


wonder what Mikkelsen is feeling

[mknight]

seems like Loeb is taking another stagewin

First proper stage win of the season (Monte was on different tires), well done. Finally he was as fast expected after last year.

[Essaj]

Seems to be red flagged now

[AnttiL]

Seems to be red flagged now

That probably explains why Greensmith was down one minute at the first split

[wrc2017]

why is Meeke pushing and taking so many risks at the moment?!

without windscreen also.. stupid guy, in case of another crash it's so dangerous..
Warning... health and safety officer in the house

[dimviii]

wonder what Mikkelsen is feeling


i wonder how they are feeling all those who commented about him ,that he needed orders about Sordo,and that at his days he had no competition.

[EstWRC]

faster than Ogier with this :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6SlIM9W0AIFCie.jpg

[tommeke_B]

We can discuss how far the stages match those of Rally Finland, but the crashes sure do...

[er88]

faster than Ogier with this :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6SlIM9W0AIFCie.jpgWho needs a windscreen and all that money and effort spent on aero :D

[dimviii]

hope Neuville is ok!

no pucture till now for any crew!

[er88]

Tanak very sensible taking two spares. Said his tyres were a bit in trouble after these two stages

[mknight]

i wonder how they are feeling all those who commented about him ,that he needed orders about Sordo,and that at his days he had no competition.

Why should that be a topic again? Loeb has shown already last year in Mexico that he can still drive fast.

How his form was 10 years ago vs now is a completely different matter.

Anyway, seeing he does well on the fast stages in Hyundai I guess they will definitely try to get him to drive in Finland. Which at the same time is bad news for Huttunen.

[er88]

Sordo and Mikkelsen should both be replaced for Finland at this rate. Loeb and Paddon/Huttunen in

[Gevin]

Finland: Neuville, Loeb, Sordo I bet. Mikkelsen driving rally Estonia two weeks earlyer.

[T16]

Any news on Neuville? Was the accident on WRC+? I’ve just tuned in.

[mknight]

Sordo and Mikkelsen should both be replaced for Finland at this rate. Loeb and Paddon/Huttunen in

As discussed in the appropriate thread Mikkelsen is already entered for rally Estonia, so it's very unlikely they will drop him. (even though I argued it's not a good idea to send him there, instead they should have focused on the 3rd driver whoever that will be).


Finland: Neuville, Loeb, Sordo I bet. Mikkelsen driving rally Estonia two weeks earlyer.


This makes no sense at all. To enter Mikkelsen in Estonia and then don't drive Finland.
Sordo's record in Finland is abysmal, anyone other than him is a better pick.

[Gevin]

Any news on Neuville? Was the accident on WRC+? I’ve just tuned in.

They didnt show it, only aftermatch. As i got info Neuville will be taken to hostpital for check. Stage red flagged

[USER47]

It wasn'T shown there, just the turned car which looked pretty horrible. Neuville was out by this point, but wasn't shown. Apparently he needs to seek out medical attention, but the stage wasn't stopped immediatelly, so hopefully it's not serious.

[T16]

It wasn'T shown there, just the turned car which looked pretty horrible. Neuville was out by this point, but wasn't shown. Apparently he needs to seek out medical attention, but the stage wasn't stopped immediatelly, so hopefully it's not serious.
Ok... good to know he’s got out under his own power.

[AnttiL]

Adamo didn't yet know about the condition of Neuville

[Gevin]

Thierry Neuville seems to have been broken his leg after his crash in SS8! #RallyChile #CopecRallyChile #WRC #WRCLive

[EstWRC]

Thierry Neuville seems to have been broken his leg after his crash in SS8! #RallyChile #CopecRallyChile #WRC #WRCLive

i hope this isnt true :(

[wrc2017]

Thierry Neuville seems to have been broken his leg after his crash in SS8! #RallyChile #CopecRallyChile #WRC #WRCLive

Shit... Schumacher moment

[Gevin]

Yeah. No info if its broken leg or broken bone. But heli took him to hospital.

[mknight]

Well if he has broken one of the bones in the leg (how do you break a leg without breaking bones?), then he is out for next rally for sure.

[EstWRC]

how serious that tweet is and who posted it ?

[Ds3]

I hope the glasses are healthy ....

[AnttiL]

how serious that tweet is and who posted it ?

https://twitter.com/sophia_wrc/status/1127217149494341635
https://twitter.com/Ardecabo/status/1127215059481112576

[BigWorm]

https://twitter.com/sophia_wrc/status/1127217149494341635

And it seems to come from this tweet:

https://twitter.com/Ardecabo/status/1127215059481112576

[EstWRC]

Bertelli has been somwehere

[Gevin]

https://www.upload.ee/image/9948129/Untitled.png

[AnttiL]

Slow roll in a hairpin for Bertelli

[AnttiL]

Wow it's foggy in the mountains!

[er88]

I hope the glasses are healthy ....Twat

[EstWRC]

foggy low clouds at the end of the stage

[AnttiL]

Lappi with high tyre wear. Ott will benefit now with fresh tyres.

[er88]

A broken leg would put Neuville out until after the summer break imo. Championship possibly over for him if these reports are true

[Gevin]

Lappi with high tyre wear. Ott will benefit now with fresh tyres.

Didnt Ott change both fresh tyres on previous one? He has 2 tyres from first stage now?

[mknight]

Tanak should just cruise at this point, unlike so many times last year.

[Gevin]

Tanak should just cruise at this point, unlike so many times last year.

Drivers often say its not good just to cruise. Just keep that pace he has and have clean run

[AnttiL]

Didnt Ott change both fresh tyres on previous one? He has 2 tyres from first stage now?

Well, fresher than the rest. In theory he could have first 1-2-3-4, then 1-2-5-6 and finally 3-4-5-6 meaning no tyre is worn for more than two stages.

[TypeR]

better not to spread that rumour..

[AnttiL]

Good time from Lappi, standing against Evans

[EstWRC]

amazing splits from Loeb again, fastest by 2 secs in split 2

[AnttiL]

Good time from Lappi, standing against Evans

Just as I posted Evans seems to be 4.2 faster at the last split...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thierryneuville
21s21 seconds ago

Thank you all for your messages. Medical assistance is taking care of Thierry and we will keep you updated as soon as we have more news.

[MartijnS]

Doesn't sound really good. If it would have been ok, they would be more concrete I guess..

[Gevin]

Meeke wide a bit. Btw amazing view!

https://www.upload.ee/image/9948183/Untitled.png

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6SvvT0WsAAiGKk.jpg

https://as01.epimg.net/motor/imagenes/2019/05/11/mas_motor/1557584629_181784_1557584898_noticia_normal_recort e1.jpg

[Gevin]

Neuville accident

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jJVcJvlNbA&fbclid=IwAR3AovvJq2zON2CY0fWufNNNDtiSZVmZfyJfU8oEg 9ED4ilxlLl-18tzxIA

[EstWRC]

holy shit!

[mknight]

Wonder if Ogier will be more pissed about his inability to catch Tanak.... or by loosing to Loeb on stage times.

I bet the second.

[masa90]

Seems like a proper challenging rally. Speeds of Suninen, Lappi and Mikkelsen worryingly slow.

Loeb seems to be finding that special touch on i20 a bit.

Really big crash for Thierry. Hope he is ok, that is the most important.

[MartijnS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6S2rBLXsAANcYG.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6S2_FAWwAIoV5J.jpg

[AnttiL]

Pelun is the fastest stage of the rally so far with average speed of 98.1 km/h but I have to admit I estimated this rally would have been a lot faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

#WRC ⚠️ UPDATE @thierryneuville: As part of the procedure following big accidents, Thierry has been checked on the scene by medical services and brought to the hospital in Concepción for further examinations. More updates to come later today. #HMSGOfficial #RallyChile

[wrc2017]

Doesn't sound really good. If it would have been ok, they would be more concrete I guess..

Agree. News was very quick of broken leg. Unless is wrong info... it didn't need a scan to see he broke leg.

[mknight]

Latvala still does not have corrected time for SS7, should be 15ish second faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This is why fans need to be well back off the road...

https://i.imgur.com/VbRUouM.jpg

[Rally Power]

Fingers crossed for Neuville. The rally lost a bit of interest: Tanak dominating and Ogier saving the loss, as usual. Now it’s up to the Yaris; hope it’ll hold on, for a change. Nice show from Loeb; it’d be great having him on a podium again.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Video with them getting out of the car:
https://twitter.com/GONZALOPEZ_O/status/1127233833051545600

[Morte66]

Last night I was going to post about how all the drivers were saying this rally was difficult, but nobody in WRC had crashed and I couldn't even remember a puncture. I was thinking it would be nice to see a rally decided by driving speed.

Well, that'll teach me...

[Ucci]

Video with them getting out of the car:
https://twitter.com/GONZALOPEZ_O/status/1127233833051545600
Doesn't look good with Theirry's leg...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

UPDATE @thierryneuville
After being examined at the hospital in Concepcion we can happily confirm Thierry has no fractures or injuries after his roll this morning on SS8 !

Brilliant news ! :)

[mknight]

Could be sprained ankle.

[wrc2017]

UPDATE @thierryneuville
After being examined at the hospital in Concepcion we can happily confirm Thierry has no fractures or injuries after his roll this morning on SS8 !

Brilliant news ! :)

Good news. Might just affect confidence

[EstWRC]

great news!!!

although from the vid it looks quite bad with the leg

[Rallyper]

Obviously he had sun in his eyes when entering that crest. Maybe one of the reasons he crashed...

[Rallyper]

UPDATE @thierryneuville
After being examined at the hospital in Concepcion we can happily confirm Thierry has no fractures or injuries after his roll this morning on SS8 !

Brilliant news ! :)

Really good news!!

[Timmy]

I really like Adamo's attitude.

[mknight]

I really like Adamo's attitude.

Yeah first few rallies it looked like he was only tough when criticizing own drivers, but since Corsica he has shown that he is equally "hard" in praising when it's due or defending them vs others.

[satukata]

Latvala still does not have corrected time for SS7, should be 15ish second faster.

they have to correct Latvalas time!

[deephouse]

Now it's up to Tanak and Toyotas that they will not mess it up again and put trophy in Ogier's hand.

[steve.mandzij]

they have to correct Latvalas time!Any news on this? :/ Neuville already got time back for an incident with Latvala once in 2017, yet Latvala didn't get any back on the next rally when Thierry held him back.

[dimviii]

championship points after ss 9

Ogier : 118

Neuville : 110

Tanak : 107

[Tarmop]

Any news on this? :/ Neuville already got time back for an incident with Latvala once in 2017, yet Latvala didn't get any back on the next rally when Thierry held him back.

https://www.copecrallychile.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3.24-CoC-Decision-13.pdf

[dimviii]

When judging the performance of his French driver, the Italian director was very appreciative, reminding how much the motivation of a world champion could bring a real plus to a team.

"I can not really say what I can think of the performance of the drivers, it's not my job. I'm here and I'm looking at the middlemen, and I'm amazed at how he's still preparing the rallies. He saw that young people were watching videos a lot and he's starting to do the same. I admire a guy nine times world champion, who won everything and seeks to further improve his preparation for a rally.

When I see something like that, I say P ... .Chapeau simply. I summarize it to one thing: motivation. When your team sees a guy like that, it brings motivation to the whole team. Everyone sees how hard he works and gets on the video. He has won nine times, but we never, so it shows us that we have to work even harder too. "


rallye-sport.fr

[AnttiL]

https://www.copecrallychile.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/3.24-CoC-Decision-13.pdf

It is 12.5 seconds faster than his original time. He is now 3.9s behind Ogier

[Allez Andruet]

So Mikkelsen's resurrection lasted only two weeks? Huge contrast between the brilliant performance in Argentina and this.

[eib1]

#Tyre Info - Day 2 afternoon
Toyota/Hyundai/MSport/Lappi: 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Hard (H4)
Ogier: 3H4 + 2 Medium (M6)

[dimviii]

https://scontent.flgg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/60071009_10157423769914973_3849951500939821056_o.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.flgg1-1.fna&oh=54c8f4c8b6952c08ea76f9cece0db37d&oe=5D5F3147

[AnttiL]

So Mikkelsen's resurrection lasted only two weeks? Huge contrast between the brilliant performance in Argentina and this.

It's been the same last year as well. Completetely off the pace in rallies like Finland, Germany, Corsica and Spain, but leading many gravel rallies and finishing on the podium in Sweden.

[mknight]

It's been the same last year as well. Completetely off the pace in rallies like Finland, Germany, Corsica and Spain, but leading many gravel rallies and finishing on the podium in Sweden.

There is some difference, last year he was not on top pace in Mexico and Argentina while this year he was on both.

Chile so far is like a mix of (wet) GB and Finland and Mikkelsen was slow on wet friday in GB and in Finland, so in that sense it fits.

[er88]

You can understand a driver being a bit off the pace if his confidence is flaky, or the car isn't perfect. But with Mikkelsen, I can't understand HOW slow he can be at times. His times are a disaster, and the car has been on the pace as proved by Neuville and Loeb (who hasn't driven on gravel like this in like 6/7yrs). Mikkelsen said he'd be better today but even Suninen and Lappi have left him behind.

It's going to come to the point where if Mikkelsen can only do well with Hyundai on certain rallies, they'll only offer him a partial campaign for next year or nothing at all. I said his manager should do everything he can do get him to Msport regardless of whether Hyundai offer him an extension, because he can't compete with Neuville anyway and it's now rightly Neuville's team in the same way VW was Ogier's. Mikkelsen and Hyundai both had eyes on him fighting with Thierry for championships titles when he first got the contract, he was never meant to be just a points collector and backup...

[mknight]

You can understand a driver being a bit off the pace if his confidence is flaky, or the car isn't perfect. But with Mikkelsen, I can't understand HOW slow he can be at times. His times are a disaster, and the car has been on the pace as proved by Neuville and Loeb (who hasn't driven on gravel like this in like 6/7yrs). Mikkelsen said he'd be better today but even Suninen and Lappi have left him behind.

It's going to come to the point where if Mikkelsen can only do well with Hyundai on certain rallies, they'll only offer him a partial campaign for next year or nothing at all. I said his manager should do everything he can do get him to Msport regardless of whether Hyundai offer him an extension, because he can't compete with Neuville anyway and it's now rightly Neuville's team in the same way VW was Ogier's. Mikkelsen and Hyundai both had eyes on him fighting with Thierry for championships titles when he first got the contract, he was never meant to be just a points collector and backup...

Well it is indeed huge contrast between on/off, there is like nothing in between. Either he is up there on not at all. While basically all drivers have good and bad rallies this is extreme. On the other hand the only driver that is so far constantly fast in I20 is Neuville. Sordo isn't and it got him kicked from the rallies where he wasn't allready in 2017 (SWE, FIN, GB), Paddon wasn't either and also got him kicked from the rallies and then the whole team. Loeb isn't yet (SWE, COR), though maybe he can be, early to tell.

I agree that for Mikkelsen it would be better to go somewhere else (Citroen/Ford), especially given the tarmac performance. Only question is how the I20 will drive like after the supposedly big upgrade that should come before Finland.

[AnttiL]

Mikkelsen and Lappi are now more equal. Mikkelsen is even a bit faster.

[mknight]

Mikkelsen and Lappi are now more equal

Nah Mikkelsen was faster than both all the way until he went into the ditch before last split on first pass, so this is no change.

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6TM8LuWkAAndEN?format=jpg&name=small

[mknight]

Btw. hearing Lappi, haven't seen this mentioned:

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#Tyre Info - Day 2 afternoon

Toyota/Hyundai/MSport/Lappi: 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Hard (H4)
Ogier: 3H4 + 2 Medium (M6)

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Might be a mistake from Ogier.

[Allez Andruet]

Hyvä Teemu!

[AnttiL]

Ogier in battle mode. We've seen this numerous times before. He has again turned it up to eleven.

[USER47]

Might be a mistake from Ogier.
I guess he needs to take some risks, because he's probably aware he couldn't hold off Latvala on pace alone.

[mknight]

Lappi and Suninen say that grip is high and Loeb says it's low?

[er88]

Just love seeing Loeb back, and his interviews. What a man

[AnttiL]

Just love seeing Loeb back, and his interviews. What a man

And also to see he's still so competitive

[Allez Andruet]

Just love seeing Loeb back, and his interviews. What a man

There's only one Le Maestro.

[er88]

Ogier on a big push. Maybe the mediums he has on are helping on this stage, but he could wear them out

[er88]

Not the best time by Jari considering his pace on most of the stages

[AnttiL]

Not the best time by Jari considering his pace on most of the stages

I hope he doesn't get depressed from this result. He can still fight with Ogier on the faster stages. Well, just as I typed this is what he said.

[er88]

I hope he doesn't get depressed from this result. He can still fight with Ogier on the faster stages. Well, just as I typed this is what he said.Yeah he just needs to stay calm, and it sounds like he's not going to get too panicked or frustrated by this time which is good. Ogiers tyres could go and/or the profile of the next two stages should suit Jari better

[AnttiL]

Tänak had two mediums?

[Tauri_J]

ogier had 2 mediums

[EstWRC]

Tänak had two mediums?

He was commenting about Ogier

[USER47]

Tanak said he had as well.

[er88]

Tänak had two mediums?I think the commentators have it wrong? I think Tanak meant Ogier had two mediums that's why he's faster, and Tanak's choice is with an eye on the whole loop and next two stages.

Maybe he has sneaked two mediums on though and I've misinterpreted his comments

[AnttiL]

Need to re-listen to the interview soon

[mknight]

He meant Ogier as people here say, allive got it wrong.

[eib1]

https://twitter.com/victorlopez_wrc/status/1127280128780849152
Neuville crash different angle

[USER47]

I think the commentators have it wrong? I think Tanak meant Ogier had two mediums that's why he's faster, and Tanak's choice is with an eye on the whole loop and next two stages.
That's what I thought as well, but I rewinded the video and he really say "I had two medium tyres".