[WRC] Rally Italia Sardegna 13th-16th June 2019

[AnttiL]

https://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/competitors/?lang=en

Rally Guide 1 is out now. All the stages from 2018 have remained aside from the single car Ittiri super special from Saturday, but almost every stage (except Tergu-Osilo, Cala Flumini and Sassari-Argentiera) have some changes.

[Atob WRC]

https://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/competitors/?lang=en

Rally Guide 1 is out now. All the stages from 2018 have remained aside from the single car Ittiri super special from Saturday, but almost every stage (except Tergu-Osilo, Cala Flumini and Sassari-Argentiera) have some changes.

Yes, beginning to study these little changes. They avoid some flat out sections on Loelle Stage, and the returns of water splash of Su Filigosu in Monte Lerno Stage!!

Time to spend on the maps!! Thanks for it!

[Duvel]

Yes, beginning to study these little changes. They avoid some flat out sections on Loelle Stage, and the returns of water splash of Su Filigosu in Monte Lerno Stage!!

Time to spend on the maps!! Thanks for it!

Can you please tell me where the water splash is located, thank you!

Starting road on Castelsardo also changed to last year. I remember a great spot near the elektric cable post, that will be point 1 on Friday!
Than Monte baranta, maybe the track in the beginning. Second loop, Tula Windmillfarm, Tergu at the absolute finish, great view!
Any tips on spectacular places still welcome!

[Atob WRC]

Can you please tell me where the water splash is located, thank you!

Starting road on Castelsardo also changed to last year. I remember a great spot near the elektric cable post, that will be point 1 on Friday!
Than Monte baranta, maybe the track in the beginning. Second loop, Tula Windmillfarm, Tergu at the absolute finish, great view!
Any tips on spectacular places still welcome!

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBi0Ps543mo

The water splash is in the double right, 2 kms before the end, near Oschiri.

We will have to wait, that the route crossing the river, it's existing nowadays.

Another question for you, it's easy to arrive at the end of Tergu? A long walk till the end no??

[Duvel]

LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBi0Ps543mo

The water splash is in the double right, 2 kms before the end, near Oschiri.

We will have to wait, that the route crossing the river, it's existing nowadays.

Another question for you, it's easy to arrive at the end of Tergu? A long walk till the end no??

Thanks!

Tergu is a long walk yes, but worth it (my opinion). I think its about 4 km.
No great close up action, but one can see about half the stage.

[AnttiL]

Also bear in mind this is just RG1 and last year they changed over the routes of Monti di Ala and Monte Lerno for RG2, the organizers of this rally have done it often before.

[Duvel]

Im planning on taking the gold pass parking option. Have any of you got some experience whit that?
The gold zones at spectator areas are not necessary.

One gold parking card is enough for one car I suppose, I mean not al passengers must have one.

[Duvel]

The water splash mentioned earlier, does anyone know if the river is actually still there, or is it dried out?
(Something for the locals..)

[Mintexmemory]

Im planning on taking the gold pass parking option. Have any of you got some experience whit that?
The gold zones at spectator areas are not necessary.

One gold parking card is enough for one car I suppose, I mean not al passengers must have one.

Yes one gold pass is good for the car park but only one person per pass can get into the gold spectating.

[Atob WRC]

The water splash mentioned earlier, does anyone know if the river is actually still there, or is it dried out?
(Something for the locals..)

Investigating, someone has told me, that this river has crossed over the bridge last time that this stage has been celebrated.....

[AnttiL]

The last time this watersplash was on the route of the WRC event was 2011 and it's shown on the video. Rally-maps might have a wrong route on the 2011 stage because the river crossing is not a road in google maps. For this year the route is drawn by hand

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-d-Italia-Sardegna-2019/Monte-Lerno
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-d-Italia-Sardegna-2011/Su-Filigosu

[Atob WRC]

The last time this watersplash was on the route of the WRC event was 2011 and it's shown on the video. Rally-maps might have a wrong route on the 2011 stage because the river crossing is not a road in google maps. For this year the route is drawn by hand

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-d-Italia-Sardegna-2019/Monte-Lerno
https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-d-Italia-Sardegna-2011/Su-Filigosu

Correct!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBi0Ps543mo

[tommeke_B]

2 years ago we were at the finish of Monte Lerno. The old splash was just next to it. I took a disappointing photo from it: http://i68.tinypic.com/2d6pjbq.jpg

If it's still like this I think they'll actually use the road that runs around it.

[tommeke_B]

A few hundred meters before that splash however, there's a very impressive fast right-left combination, that goes downhill. It's between open fields, so it's good to be on a safe distance and have a good view.

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19143868_1817802628231615_8437323124759680335_o.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=cb0d7228137d16cce86172a2201cee09&oe=5D169883

[AnttiL]

Sardegna is known for changing its route at the final moment, so it's too early to choose spectating locations (unless it's Miki's jump or such).

[tommeke_B]

Indeed, I went there 7 times. On at least half of the occasions the route changed some 1,5 month before the event. Compared to the amazing 2015 edition, all the years since then the itinerary looks quite dull.

[Atob WRC]

A few hundred meters before that splash however, there's a very impressive fast right-left combination, that goes downhill. It's between open fields, so it's good to be on a safe distance and have a good view.

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19143868_1817802628231615_8437323124759680335_o.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=cb0d7228137d16cce86172a2201cee09&oe=5D169883

You could see this spot at our video in 1:15 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNnthPraxh0

Also this year the next left bend was also espectacular, full of sand!!

[Bartolbia84]

RC1

Ogier*
Lappi
Tanak
Meeke
Latvala
Neuville
Sordo
Mikkelsen
Evans
Suninen

RC2

Ostberg (WRC2 Pro)
Kalle (WRC2 Pro)
Greensmith (WRC2 Pro)
Pieniazek (WRC2 Pro)
Kopecky (WRC PRO)
Formaux
Yates
Andolfi
Villa
Gryazin
Katsuta
Tempestini
Andolfi
Loubet
Solans
Kajto ?
Bergvstik
Basso (CIR)
Rossetti (CIR)
Campedelli (CIR)
Crugnola (CIR)
Breen (CIR)
Albertini (CIR)
Dalmazzini (CIRT)
Marchioro (CIRT)
Costenaro (CIRT)
Tonso (CIRT)
Scandola (CIRT)
Hoelbling (CIRT)
Andreucci (CIRT)
Ceccoli (CIRT)
Stracqualursi (CIRT)
Taddei
Dettori
Marrone
Bitti
Piano


R4 FIA

Ciamin ?

RC3*

Somaschini
Coti Zelati
Leoni?


RC4

Kristensson
Poom
Solans
Radstrom
Williams
Sesks
Jonhson
Oldrati
Torn
Valdivar
Tannert
Knacker
Badiu
Mazzocchi (CIR J)
Vita (CIR J)
Pollara (CIR J)
Testa (CIR J)
Bottarelli (CIR J)
Bernardi (CIR J)
Pucella (CIR J)
Gallu (CIRT)
Baroncelli (CIRT)
Liceri (CIRT)
Battilani (CIR)
Arengi
Covi
Pusceddu
Ciuffi

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/status/1131994526468456449?s=21

Entry list

[Andre Oliveira]

Format eWRC: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/54467-rally-italia-sardegna-2019/

[Jarek Z]

Kajto is back in Polo R5 :/
http://kajto.pl/en/news/world-rally-championship-2019-kajetanowicz-and-szczepaniak-ready-for-fight-in-rally-italia-sardegna/

[PLuto]

Original entry list in PDF - https://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/?ddownload=3168&lang=en

[Andre Oliveira]

WRC3 lol

[Andre Oliveira]

Format eWRC: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/54467-rally-italia-sardegna-2019/

I think it is a record of R5 in rally (except Monza).

[pantealex]

Both Estonian JWRC drivers are missing (Poom and Torn)
(and same time official JWRC twitter account is mentioning that success of Torn in ERC Liepaja is good for Sardinia)

[Andre Oliveira]

Estonian rally instead, to both.

[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2019/06/03/route-preview-rally-ditalia-sardegna-2019/

Route preview. Like mentioned earlier, almost all stage titles remained from last year but most are modified a bit. One of the most interesting additions is the river crossing at the end of Monte Lerno.

[AnttiL]

I'm thinking about pickems or other predictions...it's just impossible to predict anyone else than the top three guys to get onto the podium. Remember last year how much faster Neuville and Ogier were against everyone else, and how much faster Tänak has been lately compared to anyone else. For sure they could have a bad road position on dry weather, but at the same time they seem to find their way around big issues the best.

From the rest, it's difficult to set anyone above the others. Maybe Lappi will pull himself together? Maybe Latvala or Mikkelsen will finally be lucky on an event they have been competitive before? Maybe Suninen can keep up his pace for more than one day without mistakes? Evans, Meeke...? Even Hänninen? I can't decide. It' s just the top three, and then there's everyone else.

[mknight]

If it stays dry I don't have so much belief the top 3 will (all) be up there. Last year can't be compared with the wet conditions.
Sardinia typically also has much more road cleaning than Portugal.

People like Suninen, Lappi or Sordo could be really high up after day 1.

The biggest lottery is retirements/issues as we have seen in Portugal.

[AnttiL]

If it stays dry I don't have so much belief the top 3 will (all) be up there. Last year can't be compared with the wet conditions.

It wasn't wet on Saturday and Sunday

[mknight]

It wasn't wet on Saturday and Sunday
They weren't first on the road either.

If none of the others have issues on Friday the top 3 can end in 4th-7th place. With normal road cleaning and reverse order they will again be at some disadvantge the following days.

[AnttiL]

They weren't first on the road either.

If none of the others have issues on Friday the top 3 can end in 4th-7th place. With normal road cleaning and reverse order they will again be at some disadvantge the following days.

The start list for Saturday and Sunday had Lappi, Latvala, Neuville and Ogier as cars 5-8. Neuville and Ogier, especially Neuville were just on another planet.

[Pršljen]

The start list for Saturday and Sunday had Lappi, Latvala, Neuville and Ogier as cars 5-8. Neuville and Ogier, especially Neuville were just on another planet.

Too bad it was the last time he was like that in the whole season. Just shows us how leveled the trio is in this season, Tanak was waay behind the two after Sardinia last season.

In Portugal, Tanak did incredible job on Friday despite being 2nd on the road, there is no reason why he wouldn't do it again on Sardinia.

Don't forget that Ogier was almost minute slower than Tanak in Portugal although he didnt have problems at all and Tanak did. Also, it is about time for him to have some issues, last year in Sardinia he survived that huge rock on the road, this time he shouldn't be so lucky.

[Mintexmemory]

The weather which looked uncertain for Wednesday next week (beach and beer day!!) is now showing some light cloud for Weds / Thurs then high temperatures / full sun for the rest of the weekend. Road position in Sardinia is useful for the Friday morning. Expect Ogier to be 5th or 6th at midday. However this is a big field so there will be a lot of ruts and rocks for the second loop. This is a rally that often throws up a surprise and I'd say Neuville is perfectly placed. I'll be going for Neuville, Tanak, Ogier in that order. The pressure on the first 2 may cause cutting errors etc, something that rarely happens with Ogier

[EstWRC]

Toyota video preview with Juho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq9TVQsef3A

[EstWRC]

If it stays dry I don't have so much belief the top 3 will (all) be up there. Last year can't be compared with the wet conditions.
Sardinia typically also has much more road cleaning than Portugal.

People like Suninen, Lappi or Sordo could be really high up after day 1.

The biggest lottery is retirements/issues as we have seen in Portugal.

well, it was dry in 2017 and the podium in the end was 1. Tänak 2. Latvala 3. Neuville, who all were first starters. After Friday Paddon was leading, Latvala second, Neuville third and Tänak fourth, all within 10 secs from Paddon.

While looking at the past results, the thoughest part for the frontrunners is friday morning, this is where they lose a lot, they just have to survive that and the evening is already much better.

In that sense i agree with AnttiL that most likely the TOP3 will be on the podium again, out of those 3 Neuville has to be the favourite, won it in 2016 and 2018, on the podium in 2015 and 2017, very good record in last 4 years.

But in the same time, Latvala has shown good speed on past 2 events and he has excellent starting position, but the question is will he and his Toyota avoid the troubles, Lappi was on podium last year and also showed good speed in 2017.

Reading user racerx1979 comments on Toyotas damper issues in rally portugal thread, and that they could be even worse in sardegna, well, doesnt sound good and it seems you can already write 3 super rallies for them :D. Car and tyre management will be crucial like always at this rally.

The back starters definitely must take maximum out of friday, if not, then in the end the TOP3 will share the podium again.

[Allez Andruet]

For me it seems like the Big 3 is only expanding the gap to everyone else, so I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the podium in Sardegna will be Ogier-Tänak-Neuville in whichever order (Neuville maybe being the slight favorite though, based on his Sardegna record and road position). As ridicilous it may seem, I'd still pick JML - if anyone - to upset the odds and mix it up with the title contenders. If (and that's a big if) the Yaris would hold up and Latvala for once would have lady luck on his side everything's possible.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport preview, plus Teemu Suninen has a new co-driver next week as Jarmo Lehtinen is back calling the notes in Sardinia.

https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2019/06/09/M-SPORT-FORD-SPEED-THEIR-WAY-TO-SARDINIA

[Allez Andruet]

With this rate, Suninen is running out of credible Finnish co-drivers before the end of the season...

Just a pure quess, but maybe he needs the co-driver to be sort of a mentor as well, and for that role Lehtinen should fit in. The same could have been said about Markkula though, we'll see how this plays out.

[Katvala]

That's what he said he wanted, someone with more experience.

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[Allez Andruet]

That's what he said he wanted, someone with more experience.

Yes, and that's a bit strange from a guy who switched from Markkula to Salminen some six months ago.

[tommeke_B]

With this rate, Suninen is running out of credible Finnish co-drivers before the end of the season...
Are you joking? It's only his second codriver switch since he's driving on international level. First one after 4 years with Markkula, now a switch after half a season with Salminen. Nothing to worry about.

[mousti]

Duval switched a lot more

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[AnttiL]

Are you joking? It's only his second codriver switch since he's driving on international level. First one after 4 years with Markkula, now a switch after half a season with Salminen. Nothing to worry about.

Yeah but who would he pick next? Not many active co-drivers with WRC experience out there.

There could be a lot of reasons for this change. Maybe there's something behind the scenes in the chemistry between the two? Maybe Salminen's lack of WRC experience shows in the current WRC world? Maybe Salminen is fed up with Suninen being mean to him (like in Arganil 2)? Maybe it's pressure from the management to get at least one good result this year in order to secure a seat for next year?

[AnttiL]

At the end of Luilhas in Portugal, there's a conversation after the finish line with a very cold tone.

Suninen: What was the deal with you telling me there's 2km to go? I didn't ask. Just read the notes.
Salminen: I thought you asked
Suninen: I said 'don't cut' so we have a mark of that for next year

and then neither says anything.

[KiwiWRCfan]

There could be a lot of reasons for this change.
No. 1 reason Timo Jouhki is calling the shots https://twitter.com/buagsports/status/1137937911737913345
Investment protection strategy.

[Rallyper]

Don´t forget Pickems for Sardegna!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen expains change to Lehtinen:
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/june-2019/lehtinen-return/page/6428--12-12-.html

[AnttiL]

Suninen expains change to Lehtinen:
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/june-2019/lehtinen-return/page/6428--12-12-.html

It's just a news article based on the M-Sport press release which you posted already on the previous page. All articles are based on that press release. Most likely we won't hear more about this change publicly in a while.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen
From Rally Sardegna onwards I will compete with a very experienced co-driver Jarmo Lehtinen. I am positive that his experience counts when we head to the challenges in this rally and eventually towards rest of the #WRC season 2019! Welcome onboard, Jarmo! https://t.co/19ozJTo1FC

[dimviii]

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[EstWRC]

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hot weather and rough roads... Kajto swapped from the Polo R5 to a Fabia.

Interview: https://t.co/rNWKYahhEK

[AnttiL]

Current weather forecasts giving 35-37°C peak temperatures for Friday afternoon

[Mintexmemory]

Current weather forecasts giving 35-37°C peak temperatures for Friday afternoon

Plenty of sunscreen in the luggage!!

[Oliverk]

Current weather forecasts giving 35-37°C peak temperatures for Friday afternoon

41 in Sassari. I will melt.

[mknight]

41 in Sassari. I will melt.

Will Toyota's dampers melt though? Or will they used harder springs or something like that like in Turkey last year?

[Tauri_J]

Friday's cleaning will be brutal for the top three, especially for Ogier.

[EstWRC]

Will Toyota's dampers melt though? Or will they used harder springs or something like that like in Turkey last year?

unfortunately they have to use the same dampers as in Portugal

[KKS]

At the end of Luilhas in Portugal, there's a conversation after the finish line with a very cold tone.

Suninen: What was the deal with you telling me there's 2km to go? I didn't ask. Just read the notes.
Salminen: I thought you asked
Suninen: I said 'don't cut' so we have a mark of that for next year

and then neither says anything.
Oh calm-nice boy wasn't be so nice. Aggressive driving style and aggressive in-car mood - not sounds like good choice.

[spiderem]

Will the citroen reliability help Ogier to get back the time (position) lost due to opening the road?

[EstWRC]

Most likely but who knows...

i would be amazed if all the 3 Toyotas survive the extra hot Friday, damage limitation for them in here.

[AnttiL]

Yeah, the heat will be tough on the dampers and brakes, differentials as well. And what about the Hyundai fuel system, have they been able to rectify that issue?



i would be amazed if all the 3 Toyotas survive the extra hot Friday, damage limitation for them in here.

That's why they bring four of them ;)

[KKS]

Bigger problem for M-Sport, cuz they overheating even in Portugal.
BTW What a problem to change dumpers from Portugal to Sardegna?

[AnttiL]

Bigger problem for M-Sport, cuz they overheating even in Portugal.
BTW What a problem to change dumpers from Portugal to Sardegna?

Linked rallies, they have to use the same parts.

The weather forecast doesn't look now as intense for Friday anymore

[KKS]

Linked rallies, they have to use the same parts.

The weather forecast doesn't look now as intense for Friday anymore
So Ott will use same broken dumper as this is 'linked' rally? It's some nonsense here

[AnttiL]

So Ott will use same broken dumper as this is 'linked' rally? It's some nonsense here

Well they have allocated a certain set of dampers and other spare parts and that must be used. They cannot go and try a different damper brand to help coping in the heat.

[pantealex]

Well they have allocated a certain set of dampers and other spare parts and that must be used. They cannot go and try a different damper brand to help coping in the heat.

+They can repair broken parts. But as said can´t replace different type of parts.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen:
Recce time in @Rally_d_Italia - beautiful and warm as always. Now getting used to third different voice in seven months. Stages are nice but here you need to be clever as well not to break the car.
https://t.co/O2EjZ8jTxh

[racerx1979]

I think the Toyotas will struggle here especially on Friday. The weather is supposed to 38C and that will be horrible. Hyundais fuel issue can be a problem if they have not resolved it, but that would be a sad shame after Adamo saying they know the issue and will take care of it.

Latvala should do well here with his road position, but car problems could cause issues. JML's old school driving style also puts more stress on the vehicle with big slides and hard breaking to move the balance of the car. Citroen could do very well here. I'm thinking of moving Lappi higher up in my pickems because of 1. his road position and 2. Citroen's reliability. Ogier will be drastically affected by Friday's extremely dry stages, but the C3 copes well with heat.

My prediction as of today is Neuville, Lappi, Ogier, Sordo and Mikkelsen in the top 5 followed by the Toyota's. I say this only because I assume the Toyota's will struggle in the heat and semi rough roads. As for the Ford's it's up in the air for me as they have odd issues here and there, but nothing common and repetitive like the Toyota's and Hyundais. My heart on the other hand wants to see Latvala, Meeke and even Hanninen do well :).

Is Hanninen allowed to compete as a fourth car with different components?? If so, he could go well, but he's rusty in competition.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Haninen's car isnt 'linked' to Portugal like the others as it didnt run there. So it can have a different brand of dampers.

Other changes like the brake cooling that was tested arent homologated.

[KKS]

Well they have allocated a certain set of dampers and other spare parts and that must be used. They cannot go and try a different damper brand to help coping in the heat.
So they can get new one with exact construction?
Anyway change dumper supplier within 2 weeks without any test it's not good idea. I hope this is only some factory defect with JML and Ott dumpers.

[AnttiL]

So they can get new one with exact construction?
Anyway change dumper supplier within 2 weeks without any test it's not good idea. I hope this is only some factory defect with JML and Ott dumpers.

They are allowed to use X amount of dampers for the two events combined. And yeah I know it would be outrageous to change dampers without testing. That's what Hänninen is most likely doing.

[AMSS]

So they can get new one with exact construction?
Anyway change dumper supplier within 2 weeks without any test it's not good idea. I hope this is only some factory defect with JML and Ott dumpers.

They are allowed 5 sets for Portugal and Sardinia in total, I don`t know how these new rules are but it might be that the dampers are sealed so they can`t even make service on them until after Sardinia

[pantealex]

Stewards decicions 1&2
-Andolfi can do shakedown with WRC and WRC2 PRO
-Østberg can bring his spare gearbox later to scrutineering

[Rallyper]

Remember, only just over 24 hrs left for making PICKEMS for Sardegna.

Will close tomorrow at 2300 CET. ;)

[Essaj]

Will close tomorrow at 2300 CET. ;)

SS1 has already been driven at that point

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/TGR_WRC/status/1138853947752497152

Sardegna will be Tänaks 100th rally, if he wins, it will be his 10th career win, and if he somehow manages to get 12 stage wins, he will have 200 career stage wins after Sardegna.

[Allez Andruet]

https://www.rallit.fi/juho-hannisella-pikkutuhma-lahtonumero-sardinian-mm-rallissa-se-on-joku-poikien-pikku-jekku/

In this Finnish interview Hänninen says (in his well-known humorous way) he hopes that the top guys will be so much faster than him already on SS2, that there wouldn't be any need to compare the times against them after that. And once again he says that this is just about testing and nothing else. Which, without a shadow of a doubt is true, but... once a rally driver, always a rally driver. We saw in Sweden how easy it was for Grönholm to "just enjoy the rally". Juho's my biggest modern day hero, and part of me hopes that he will call Tommi right after SS2 and tell him to forget about the test plan.

[Mk2 RS2000]

[QUOTE=AnttiL;1220058] And what about the Hyundai fuel system, have they been able to rectify that issue?

QUOTE]

Its been an on going issue that first reared its head at Mexico 2017, Should get it fixed one day.

[EstWRC]

Morning, sahkedown is live Ogier hit the gate and going slowly now

[EstWRC]

Neuville exactly the same

E:evans same, evans has basically whipped the gate away now, lol


they didnt show Tänak having a moment there but his time is slow, his car looked undamaged compared to others thou

[EstWRC]

Ogier is still standing at the end of stage, says that they dont have all the spare and they have to wait for the team.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D87MAgSWsAEmqtc.jpg

[polomayu]

Did anyone see if the jump on the straight is with the bad landing as it was last year?

[KKS]

Ogier hit that gate exact with wheel so get suspension damage. All other hit with body or aero, so a bit lucky

[er88]

Cleaning looked to be massive on first pass?

If that's the same tomorrow then Latvala, Sordo and Mikkelsen are going to be out in front you'd think - or they should be if no car troubles.

[EstWRC]

Cleaning looked to be massive on first pass?

If that's the same tomorrow then Latvala, Sordo and Mikkelsen are going to be out in front you'd think - or they should be if no car troubles.

Sadly I didn’t get the best picture with the cleaning effect because basically they all had the gate moment. But looking at the second passes right after the first from Meeke, Evans and suninen they improved massively.

[EstWRC]

Ogier now fastest. It seems Tänak has had some trouble again on third pass or not because Meeke and lappi have the same kind of time.

E: Ogier too. Weird

Tyre saving i guess

[er88]

Why would they be saving tyres? I thought there was a separate allocation for only shakedown?

But with the times being similarly bad I guess it must be something like that

[EstWRC]

video of Ogier and Neuville hitting the gate https://twitter.com/Burgrid7/status/1139083684957511681

[EstWRC]

Why would they be saving tyres? I thought there was a separate allocation for only shakedown?

But with the times being similarly bad I guess it must be something like that

Järveoja just confirmed it, they were saving tyres. On the first pass they stalled the car.

[EstWRC]

hahahahahah

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D88KKhBXUAE2GJg.jpg

[KKS]

Järveoja just confirmed it, they were saving tyres. On the first pass they stalled the car.
they have two mandatory run. Why they do third and saving tyres on it?

[er88]

hahahahahah

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D88KKhBXUAE2GJg.jpgLOL, look at some of those faces haha :D

[AL14]

hahahahahah

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D88KKhBXUAE2GJg.jpg

As a sardinian guy I love this. Now they should make the typical sardinian dance and it would be perfect :D

[racerx1979]

Ott has a "WTF am I doing here" look.
Hanninen really looks the part hahahaha

[EstWRC]

https://youtu.be/TNNk5MKJ7T4
https://youtu.be/Y_iL4KvR28A

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/1fan2rallyes/videos/vb.275968445903021/2407838199453096/?type=2&theater

[EstWRC]

they have two mandatory run. Why they do third and saving tyres on it?

three is mandatory, thats why

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/hV-6NLZjx9o

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some watersplash ! :D

[EstWRC]

Some watersplash ! :D

ridiculous one!

thats not a watersplash, a meteor crater with water filled in

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Watersplash apart, as SSS go its not too bad.

[stefanvv]

wooohhaaaaa, Kalle beats

[EstWRC]

and the Latvalas Toyota already having problems after watersplash

[stefanvv]

Entertaining

[EstWRC]

Ogier so so agressive compared to Tänak

[er88]

Latvala 4s behind Ogier after that little issue, but he'll make that up very quickly tomorrow with the road position difference ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier desperate to take anything he could tonight: "It's better than nothing, every tenth counts ! Tomorrow will be a different story starting 1st."

[torsteinrp]

Veiby broke the rear suspension after the jump..

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[RS]

Veiby broke the rear suspension after the jump..

Sent fra min SM-G960F via Tapatalk

Oh crikey. In the same style as Kajto?

[er88]

Oh VW.....

[Indreq]

Oh VW.....

Look at the bright side - no VWs have burned on this event yet. :)

[RS]

Veiby retired. The chocolate teapot strikes again.

[Rallyper]

Veiby retired. The chocolate teapot strikes again.

He says Rally2 on Twitter...? Not same as retired I reccon...

[RS]

He says Rally2 on Twitter...? Not same as retired I reccon...

Was in the olden days :p

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg
‏ @MadsOstberg


Maybe you remember my issues with rims during Portugal. Well good news - the new just arrived�� It's half of what I need but we'll rotate and use them wisely ☺️

[KKS]

Gryazin win a stage in RC2 O_o

[SubaruNorway]

No video of Veiby?

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/lju_c35d3376.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/lju_c35d3402.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rally_italia_sardegna_2019/lju_c35d3313.jpg

[Gevin]

10min to go and its on. Very important day to first runners, looking forward

[Gevin]

Latest info about temperatures. Expected to reach up to 36 degrees.

[Gevin]

Ogier 3 hard + 2 mediums,
Lappi/Sordo/Evans/Suninen/Latvala/Hanninen avec 5 hard,
Neuville avec 6 mediums,
Mikkelsen avec 4 mediums et 2 hard,
Meeke/Tanak avec 2 hard et 3 mediums.

[Rallyper]

Gooodd mooorning friends of rallying!! Another challenging day in WRC. Already over 30 degrees in Sardegna.

[EstWRC]

Neuville with 6 mediums?

[Gevin]

Tänak fastest SPL1
Ogier +1,3s
Neuville +2,6s

[Gevin]

SPL2 Tänak fastest
Ogier +5s
Neuville +5,1s

[Gevin]

SPL3 Tänaj fastest
Neuville +4,5s
Ogier +8,2s

[EstWRC]

Tänak with 4km/h for a while, has lost time, i suspect stall

[Gevin]

He lost like 3s. SPL4 Ogier +5,6 to him

[Rallyper]

Tanak says dust slowed him.

[Gevin]

Dust issue for Tänak, there this 3s went

[EstWRC]

Tänak: Dust in the end, cant see anything

[Essaj]

Great time by Suninen

[Lead]

Suninen with the good start.

[EstWRC]

TOP3 already in double figures in geneal classification

[Gevin]

All Toyotas seem to lose a bit time at stage end slower part

[KKS]

Good pace for Suninen but as he ready for that now? Too fast and scary for him. Need to be more steady

[EstWRC]

All Toyotas seem to lose a bit time at stage end slower part

noticed the same

[Rallyper]

Good pace for Suninen but as he ready for that now? Too fast and scary for him. Need to be more steady

Only first proper stage... much will happen.

Maybe not for Suninen, but still.

[Rallyper]

Ok, Mikkelsen a bit rusty, but should do better.

[Mirek]

Lappi pretty slow for his starting position.

[Mirek]

Sordo with a puncture.

There was some small puddle left on the road after Lappi left.

[er88]

Sordo faster than Mikkelsen with a puncture

[Rallyper]

Ostberg faster than Hanninen...

Edit: Now 1 sec slower...

[Gevin]

Ostberg faster than Hanninen...

What you expect after years of break

[Gevin]

Done for Ostberg

[KKS]

what a good splits for Mads and than broke a suspension - ((( pity

[Mirek]

Ostberg faster than Hanninen...

Edit: Now 1 sec slower...

...and Mads is out. Likely hit something and damaged suspension.

[Mirek]

Veiby stopped again...

[er88]

All Toyotas seem to lose a bit time at stage end slower partMeeke suggested he struggled due to pace notes and having not done this stage before (corners tightening on him more than he expected etc), but yeah it does seem like it was similar with all Toyotas in general as well

[Rallyper]

What you expect after years of break

Different class. But now he stopped. Something broken...

[er88]

Veiby out..., VW again?

Edit - moving again

[KKS]

everyone who got faster splits in WRC2 - got a problems. Mads and Veiby stops

[Mirek]

Veiby continues now.

[Mirek]

Ostberg working on left front suspension.

[Gevin]

Veiby moving, Grayzin behind him in dust

[Gevin]

Ostberg at finish now

[Gevin]

Kajetanowicz stopped

[RS]

everyone who got faster splits in WRC2 - got a problems. Mads and Veiby stops

Maybe trying to set some eye catching times whilst WRC boys struggled with sweeping?

[Gevin]

There is some problem at stage. Andolfi Bulacia stopped same place where Kajetanowicz is. Andmore drivers stop there

[RS]

There is some problem at stage. Andolfi Bulacia stopped same place where Kajetanowicz is. Andmore drivers stop there

Doesn’t sound good :(

[EstWRC]

carnage already

[Gevin]

https://www.upload.ee/image/10094570/Screen_Shot_2019-06-14_at_10.14.46.png

[Mirek]

There is some problem at stage. Andolfi Bulacia stopped same place where Kajetanowicz is. Andmore drivers stop there

Kajto's car blocking the stage? Hopefully nothing more serious.

[er88]

Big drama already and there's lots more to come

[Gevin]

Looks like its Andolfi who has problem there

[EstWRC]

SS3 is live now

[Gevin]

SS2: ANDOLFI STOPPED
Fabio has stopped in stage at the 14.2km point.

Yeah, blocking the road

[Rallyper]

All Live black out?

When Ogier stalled... However working now.

[Gevin]

For me its black :D
Edit: Good now

[Indreq]

All Live black out?

yep

[Gevin]

Ogier stalled

[Gevin]

Tänak 6,5s faster at end than Ogier

[EstWRC]

again Tänak gave a little away in the end, weird

[KKS]

And what now? Andolfi spin/crash - block a road, stage was redflaged. All stop at that point and help him, then he drive a stage. Will he allow to push then? Cuz as he finish a stage it's a bit strange to receive a nominal time for a car who make stage redflagged

[EstWRC]

SUninen doesnt want to finish? scary fast for him

[Gevin]

Suninen SPL1 2,9s faster than everyone :D Take it easy dude

[Mirek]

That trampoline section is painful to watch. Poor cars!

[KKS]

Meeks looks like struggling all time. Safe mode for Meeke looks like

[Gevin]

SUninen split 5,6s faster but he already went wide one turn

[Mirek]

Suninen pushing like crazy!

[Mirek]

And another blackout for me...

[Gevin]

And Wrc+ black again

[er88]

AllLive stopped again fs

[KKS]

Latvala nearly leveled with Suninen on 2nd split

[Rallyper]

yep, BO here too.

[Gevin]

Oi Latvala good last split! 0,1s faster than Suninen

[Franky]

Suninen 6,3 seconds faster than Tänak.

[Mirek]

All live is back

[Gevin]

That bumpy section looks so nasty indeed... And the u-turn after it, where everyone makes mistake

[RS]

All Live via BT Sport seems more reliable than their own service it seems. No blackouts here

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen's front tyres are gone.

[Gevin]

Mikkselsen front

https://www.upload.ee/image/10094648/Screen_Shot_2019-06-14_at_10.54.33.png

[Googol]

All Live via BT Sport seems more reliable than their own service it seems. No blackouts here

Not that surprising. BT Sport should have more resources and experience for broadcasting.

[Mirek]

Lappi complaining about difficulties to turn, suspecting diff issue.

[Mirek]

So Mads broke the suspension arm in the previous one.

[RS]

Not that surprising. BT Sport should have more resources and experience for broadcasting.

Yes, it must be an issue with the server the wrc promoter uses.. but anyway, i thought it might be useful for people in the UK to know.. BT Sport can be bought cheaper than All Live too.

[RS]

Ostberg flying again. Kalle seems to take the tortoise approach to this event and it's working so far.

[MartijnS]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/695155447205804/permalink/2322816607773005?sfns=mo

[Gevin]

edit: woops

[er88]

LOL, cow on ice :D

[RS]

Gryazin quickest R5 on ss3 now.

[EstWRC]

LOL, cow on ice :D

haha, and you could see it from onboard, sliding like crazy

[EstWRC]

Suninen with a mistake

[Tauri_J]

Teemu's speed very low some time

[Gevin]

Like cow on slippy ice coming from Estonian proverb "Nagu lehm libedal jääl"

[er88]

Fuck!!! Suninen in trouble. Damn that's annoying

[Gevin]

And there goes Suninen great lead

[Rallyper]

Fuck!!! Suninen in trouble. Damn that's annoying

Let´s wait and see, however it looks his speed has been over his limits...

[Rallyper]

Seems lika small mistake.

[KKS]

Like cow on slippy ice coming from Estonian proverb "Nagu lehm libedal jääl"
Its also quite often use in Ukraine too. Didn't know why all wondering of that

[Gevin]

Suninen had 0km/h at the beginning, so its mistake

[KKS]

Seems lika small mistake.
Its a first call. It's not this pace he should calm down

[Tauri_J]

Its also quite often use in Ukraine too. Didn't know why all wondering of that

its said like bambi on ice not cow...they were talking about that

[KKS]

is that RL woobeling ?

[Tauri_J]

lappi 0km/h

[Tauri_J]

lappi moving again

[KKS]

LOL. Tanak going to win a stage? 2nd on the road))))

[er88]

Latvala nearly spins. Lappi stopped briefly

[KKS]

JML is an encyclopedia of Tomy Gardemeister rolls :D

[er88]

Latvala is a rallying encyclopedia

[Miika]

Jesus fcking Christ WRC+

[Rallyper]

Latvala is a rallying encyclopedia

And I know how wonderful it is to have roadmemory. JML uses it perfect.

Poor guys who don´t have...

[Franky]

Yes, it must be an issue with the server the wrc promoter uses.. but anyway, i thought it might be useful for people in the UK to know.. BT Sport can be bought cheaper than All Live too.

Not an expert on it, but think it's not the server but the data upload to the server that is the problem as the feed comes back itself.

[Mirek]

So a puncture for Lappi.

[Mirek]

Kajto in finish of SS3. How come?

[Essaj]

Kajto in finish of SS3. How come?

What do you mean? It was Andolfi who blocked the road on SS2

[Mirek]

Great time for Hänninen on this one. It seems like some rust has fallen off.


What do you mean? It was Andolfi who blocked the road on SS2

Thanks

[KKS]

Cow on ice - win a stage :D

[Lead]

Hanninen faster than Mikkelsen, Evans and Ogier :rolleyes:

[Indreq]

Cow on ice - win a stage :D

Cows and finnish village team - somehow this seems to work out :D

[KKS]

Interesting to hear what Mads will tell, but wrc+ again fcked up :/

[Pršljen]

Either Tanak is incredibly fast or Ogier cleaned the road immaculately.

[KKS]

C'mon Mads! You repair a car on stage and not give up. Take some positive from this!

[Mirek]

Greensmith started the stage only after Kopecký.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gutted for Teemu - all his good work undone. Still shown good speed though.

Evans comment was worrying, hope its not serious.

[Mirek]

Greensmith oversteered off the road. Doesn't look recoverable from the onboard.

[EstWRC]

again something broke for Greensmith

[Tauri_J]

Greensmith off the road, lost the back end

[KKS]

again something broke for Greensmith
Looks like unstabilized braking, lock a rear and go off with opposite corner slide

[Rallyper]

Looks like unstabilized braking, lock a rear and go off with opposite corner slide

well, well ...

[Winner]

WRC+ spends too much time talking about Greensmith, he even crashes more than Meeke!

[EstWRC]

Ogier out!

[er88]

Oh ya fucker. Schoolboy error on this super special type part at the start of the stage I'm afraid... Neuville/Meeke esque...

[Eli]

Nooooo Ogier, Another championship leader going into the summer break I guess...

[EstWRC]

really silly mistake, cant believe it from him

[Pršljen]

Yess, Ogier out, wishes do come true!

[Rallyper]

No repairs for him, what Mads did. Waiting for 5 point on PS then...

[Mirek]

No repairs for him, what Mads did.

And You know what is broken in Ogier's case, right?