[WRC] Tour de Corse 2019

[mknight]

Imo the most likely thing at Citroen is that they didn't focus on developing the tarmac car cause it seemingly was good enough from before, while others moved on.

[Rallyper]

So, on this stage the big changes should come, or not...

[dimviii]

yoann bonato @yoannbonato



ES8: We stopped in the special, the car does not want to start ... I tell you more quickly.

[KKS]

oh it was close for Loeb

[mknight]

oh it was close for Loeb

Seems to be pushing hard

EDIT: Too hard... spin... more like understeered out

[jonkka]

And spun
...and out?
...no, just turned around.

[er88]

Ogier has a green first split for once!

[KKS]

first small alert with a tree and huge with that oversteer. Looks like Loeb overdrive himself.

[er88]

This stage looks incredibly difficult and we've not even seen the gravel section yet

[Rally Hokkaido]

He slid wide and dropped in the ditch before stopping and reversing back onto the course. The car seems to be OK.

[jonkka]

And now all they follow is Loeb...

[stefanvv]

Go Suninen

[mknight]

And now all they follow is Loeb...

Yeah a bit disappointing, so much happening elsewhere and Loeb is 8th and lost lot of time alreay.

[mknight]

Suninen lost 5s to Ogier between 1 and 2. split

[stefanvv]

huh, Sordo

[Tauri_J]

cmon show us that gravel section

[AnttiL]

Lappi losing a lot of time?

[AnttiL]

Great first split from Sordo

[jonkka]

Geez... I feel for those who pay to see this feed.

[KKS]

cmon show us that gravel section
r they really exist? I think it's just one half of road resurfaced and other with old broken tarmac

[er88]

Looks like Meeke maybe was either a bit safe, or made a slight mistake in the gravel section if splits say anything.

Shame we haven't seen anything of that section....

[AnttiL]

r they really exist? I think it's just one half of road resurfaced and other with old broken tarmac

The stream followed Loeb earlier in the stage and now starts showing the ending of the stage after the gravel. But we'll see it in the onboards later on.

[mknight]

Suninen now 11 down on Ogier, so looks like position change

[KKS]

Ogier pace - mega! (so far)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak up on Evans Split 1.

[jonkka]

Ogier pace - mega! (so far)

Not very, even Sordo is faster.

[KKS]

Not very, even Sordo is faster.
4th split. But yeah Sordo didn't post time on that so far. Lets wait

[AnttiL]

Ogier now 11.6 up on Meeke at split 4

[Simmi]

The stream followed Loeb earlier in the stage and now starts showing the ending of the stage after the gravel. But we'll see it in the onboards later on.

It's probably the biggest frustration for me of WRC+ that they can't show these things in the coverage. It was the same with the Monte where there were some dry stages with maybe one really tricky snow section. And they completely missed it off the coverage. Just too rigid in terms of what they show.

[er88]

Ogier now 11.6 up on Meeke at split 4Between 3rd and 4th split Meeke was either very safe or made a slight mistake. Lost time to everyone including 4s to Latvala

[tomhlord]

Tanak to the lead after this? Most likely I think.

Ogier flying! Could be up to 4th.

Gutted for Camilli.

[br21]

Camilli stopped but going again

[AnttiL]

Maybe the gravel section cleans up for the later runners?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone seen anything of the 4km gravel ?

[KKS]

prepare to Lappi crying!
edit: glad to hear that something in this life Lappi - enjoy. At least breakfast.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier found sonething here.

[er88]

Maybe the gravel section cleans up for the later runners?Will be interesting to see the onboards. Maybe there's some vague lines for the others to follow (drivers said after recce they were going to find it hard where to position the car as half the road is gravel and half isnt).

[AnttiL]

Will be interesting to see the onboards. Maybe there's some vague lines for the others to follow (drivers said after recce they were going to find it hard where to position the car as half the road is gravel and half isnt).

Yeah, it allows different tactics. Will you use the racing line over the gravel or keep it on the tarmac?

[mknight]

At splits every single driver is faster than Meeke (first on road) between splits 3 and 4. So finding a line must have been an issue.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Suninen but at least no mistakes.

[mknight]

For Suninen even 7-8th would be a good result now with the good pace he has shown. Anything but another off.

[dimviii]

Evans very slow at this one.

[KKS]

Good time for Sordo! Welldone!

[KKS]

oooohh EVANS 4TH SPLIT!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Elfyn !!

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä off. What a bad rally and bad season for him.

[Rallyper]

Rovanperä off. What a bad rally and bad season for him.

Sorry for him, but the competition is harder for him now.

[jonkka]

Road seems exceedingly dirty in places.

[dimviii]

Evans took big time back!

[jonkka]

Evans took big time back!

And Tanak took even more on next split.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak takes more time and leads.

[KKS]

Quite amazing to see so small gaps after 47km stage

[EstWRC]

I want this fight to end with power stage. Amazing !

[dimviii]

Rovanpera reired. Very bad year for him so far.

[RS]

Rovanperä off. What a bad rally and bad season for him.

Oh not again Kalle :(

He is not showing that he is ready for a World Rally Car yet.

[Rallyper]

Still he is fast, but not consistent.

[AnttiL]

Still he is fast, but not consistent.

Not even fast in this rally. His best result in this rally was 5th in RC2 on the previous stage.

[mknight]

Oh not again Kalle :(

He is not showing that he is ready for a World Rally Car yet.

Kind of my thought. Multiple people have mentioned how he will drive for Toyota next year possibly replacing either Latvala or Meeke, doesn't seem anywhere near ready judging by this season.

[mknight]

Was trying to look up when Loeb did two mistakes in one rally last time and was unable to find it.

[AnttiL]

Kind of my thought. Multiple people have mentioned how he will drive for Toyota next year possibly replacing either Latvala or Meeke, doesn't seem anywhere near ready judging by this season.

Seems that the pressure put on him by being the only Skoda driver is doing its job. Last season all he had to do was show speed with Tidemand and Kopecky going for the title.

[dimviii]

sorry guys but requested from NOT

Tanak : 90 pts

Ogier : 71 pts

Neuville : 70 pts

Evans : 46 pts

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Evans actually lost more time saving tyres on the short previous stage than he did on the long one. If a gamble it didnt pay off...:(

[dimviii]

Camilli stoped to change a puncture,and finished the stage just 11,6 slower from the wrc2 pro leader.

[mknight]

Budar saying the same as mentioned here, that maybe they didn't focus enough on tarmac (thinking they were good).

Says they first plan for tarmac development before germany. Dampers and difs here are same as last year.

[dimviii]

Lappi ss 9 moment
https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/28509-day-2-rallye-tour-de-corse-2019-lappi-mistake-by-mzproduccions/

[br21]

if the car was not understeering (that much) last year and they didn't do any development and/or changes it shouldn't start to understeer now...

[Googol]

So Evans actually lost more time saving tyres on the short previous stage than he did on the long one. If a gamble it didnt pay off...:(

Well, you can't tell how much he would have lost if he hadn't saved tyres.

[Ds3]

Disable C3 by Law ........
It hides dangers for audiences and pilots

[T16]

So Evans actually lost more time saving tyres on the short previous stage than he did on the long one. If a gamble it didnt pay off...:(

Very short shighted point of view, as usual Eddie.
Look at it this way: Evans would have lost a shit load more time than he did, if he didn’t save his tyres on the earlier stage. By doing what he did, he’s only still a couple of seconds off Tanak, meaning he’s very much within striking distance, should Tanak suffer the smallest of glitches.
Thought you were an M-Sport fan... you should be buzzing that Evans, on pace alone, is so close to first place in Corsica.
There’s not many would have bet a fiver on that at the start of the year. If he gets second here and he’s fought so closely to Tanak, it will be like a win for him and the team.
Not all first places are victories.

[er88]

Disable C3 by Law ........I wonder what Citroen model you like ;)

[dimviii]

Nucita

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D25nlLoWsAEighq.jpg

[Ds3]

I wonder what Citroen model you like ;)

Ds3, Ds4 maybe....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans saying he was too careful on the middle stage and hopes to put it right this afternoon.

T16 you are talking crap as usual. Evans gained no advantage trying to save tyres. Tanak went flat out knowing the long stage would be dirty and tyre wear not a factor.

And being an M-Sport fan doesnt mean blind support. I hope they do well but I call it the same as for any other driver if they dont.

[Rallyper]

Not even fast in this rally. His best result in this rally was 5th in RC2 on the previous stage.

Well, there are other rallies he´s been fast in. And last split before crashing on SS9 he was 2nd. But, yes, you might have a point he not fast, but I don´t agree on that one.

[arx]

First really difficult stage and very good time by Ogier. Says something about driving skills...

[Rallyper]

So Evans actually lost more time saving tyres on the short previous stage than he did on the long one. If a gamble it didnt pay off...:(

Seems you are right now having the result.

[AnttiL]

Maybe Citroen and Ogier suits better the tricky stuff than the racingcircuit like fast stuff?

[wrc2017]

Maybe Citroen and Ogier suits better the tricky stuff than the racingcircuit like fast stuff?

regarding the C3.. that's the opposite to what it was originally designed

[dimviii]

Ciamin about his retirement

Abandonment �� Unfortunately due to a blocking of the Steering, the car typed rocks. Nicolas could not do anything... �� #tourdecorse #nicolasciamin #rallye It was 2nd of the WRC2 and even 1st following the puncture of Eric Camilli. Really bad luck!

the steering problem at polos looking serious

[KKS]

Loeb visit a coffee shop :D
https://twitter.com/SebastienLoeb/status/1111970293441019905

[AnttiL]

Half-gravel section on the Castagniccia stage

https://www.rallit.fi/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Asvalttity%C3%B6t.jpg

[EstWRC]

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[AnttiL]

https://www.rallit.fi/kalle-rovanpera-kertasi-ulosajoaan-ei-paasta-jatkamaan/

No Rally2 for Rovanperä, roll cage damaged.

[ZequeArgentina]

Half-gravel section on the Castagniccia stage

https://www.rallit.fi/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Asvalttity%C3%B6t.jpg
Ahh, not as bad as supposed!
So basically a narrower road (just one lane) with perfect surface and a very good border for extremely big cuts! (Only when turn is in one direction)

[AnttiL]

Ahh, not as bad as supposed!
So basically a narrower road (just one lane) with perfect surface and a very good border for extremely big cuts! (Only when turn is in one direction)

Very good surface, but slippery for sure. Also, on lefthanders, do you cut from gravel or keep on the tarmac? Or did the organizers put obstacles to prevent drivers from wrecking the road base?

[drive]

Lappi drifting 'on the edge'

https://www.facebook.com/rallypl/videos/465329900671879/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi really hates dirty tarmac with gravel. Zero confidence.

[mknight]

Nucita crashing over speedbump:
https://www.facebook.com/modalitaslalom/videos/1235237109973992/?v=1235237109973992

[KKS]

Meeke splits are fastest so far. Unpressure driving paid with a good time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb not happy with the i20 now. Like Sordo he never knows how its going to be.

[EstWRC]

not a great third split for Tänak

but same for Evans

[KKS]

Kaetanovicz seems with puncture

[jonkka]

Meeke's time seems to hold till the end?!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes Elfyn, nice run.

[EstWRC]

you just cant separate those two former teammates!

amazing

[KKS]

It's getting hotter here. And both Tanak and Evens staying calm and relax with such a battle. Amazing.

[Crazy J]

Lappi really hates dirty tarmac with gravel. Zero confidence.

https://i.ibb.co/sCtTyrj/Lappi-Tour-de-Corse.jpg (https://ibb.co/XDVnSTX)

[KKS]

If Veiby keep up his pace - could be 3rd at the end of a day. 12 sec to Gryazin

[mknight]

Indeed, Lappi should go this route:
https://medias.spotern.com/spots/w640/342-1532336916.jpg

[KKS]

Interesting battle aswell in Juniors. Kristensson ahead by 4.9sec but was cutted by 13sec only at last stage. Tannert in big push in 3rd too. 3 way fight for a lead.

[KKS]

Latvala getting a puncture from nowhere. Pure badluck

[er88]

Feel bad for Jari, he's in a bit of trouble.

No speed; no results; no luck atm

[mknight]

Latvala getting a puncture from nowhere. Pure badluck

Says it was his mistake by cutting too much.

[EstWRC]

Tänak in trouble, slow puncture ig uess

[mknight]

Tanak very slow first split, bug?

Stopped, looks like puncture

[KKS]

Tanak bad split

[EstWRC]

standing now

[er88]

Tanak wtf!!

[EstWRC]

nah, shit,

congrats evans

[jonkka]

Ouch...

[er88]

Honestly do Toyotas have a weakness still?? Punctures galore this season

[KKS]

That two idiots in commentary - jinxed Ott!

[EstWRC]

well hear if it was the rim or his fault

[Japé]

How is it possible that Toyotas collect always all the punctures?

[mknight]

Latvala admitted his puncture here was completely his fault.

[EstWRC]

seventh overall and just 3 secs from Lappi, not a disaster

[cali]

Really doesn't matter who's fault it is as it still keep happening to mostly to Toyotas

[EstWRC]

no commentary from Tänak? wtf?

[er88]

Really don't know what's better, it being his mistake or another flimsy Toyota puncture....

[EstWRC]

well it seems another faulty rim then

[jonkka]

This screws Tanak's championship lead - as well as Toyota's too. And what will Neuville do, now that he might be able to win, with just 11secs to Evans?

[er88]

Can Thierry win this do we think?

[Mintexmemory]

Can Thierry win this do we think?
No - next question please.

[jonkka]

Can Thierry win this do we think?

Doubtful, based on his performance so far. But then again, he beat Evans by 3.5 secs on this one and lead is just 11.5 secs so it's doable, if Hyundai is up to it.

[KKS]

Did Toyota changed rims after Monte?

[AnttiL]

no commentary from Tänak? wtf?

He said it was in a strange place

[EstWRC]

well he cant push now on the long one too but he doesnt even have too, will get Lappi anyway

[krissucool]

How many rallies has Tänak thrown/being forced to throw the lead away in the past 6 months? Spain, Rally GB, Corsica? That is a a hell of a lot for that time period.

[EstWRC]

championship standings if Tänak gets past Lappi

Ogier 73
Tänak 73
Neuville 73

hmmm, just noticed that again all 3 Toyotas have had punctures like in Monte. weird

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can Thierry win this do we think?

+11s... cant rule him out.


�� SS11 @ElfynEvans - "It’s really unlucky for Ott as it was a great battle. But our pace didn’t look too fantastic in there and we still need to push as Thierry isn’t far behind!”

[the sniper]

Emyr like a Cheshire cat in the studio! :D

[cosmin_sb]

there is more that a quarter of the rally to run, a lot of things can happen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen beat Evans on the last one - impressive Teemu !

[denkimi]

And what will Neuville do, now that he might be able to win, with just 11secs to Evans?
I doubt he'll push. His real rivals are far behind, and he could lose a lot by making a mistake.

[USER47]

But he's usually quite comfortable in a position when he's pushing behind the leader. And with his experience compared to Evans and him now smelling blood in the water, I think he will try to go for the win. He has a real chance and the extra points for win would help a lot in the championship.

[EstWRC]

exactly, im thinking the same

but then again, he would have to open the road next rally

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just before Tanak stopped I was thinking what a bad rally it would be for Toyota if anything happened to him...

[KKS]

Juniors SS11
Kristensson +0.0
Radstrom +0.4
Tannert+6.6

[mknight]

there is more that a quarter of the rally to run, a lot of things can happen

Yes, but if someone told me before the rally that Evans will lead after SS11, Ogier will be 4th without any big mistakes/punctures and Hyundai will be best scoring manufacturer I would declare him insane.

--
But I like unpredictability so bring it on.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

but then again, he would have to open the road next rally

Good point, although PS points have to be factored in.

[er88]

Tanak and Meeke have lost big big pts on this rally. Drivers and the Toyota team will be gutted.

Adamo & Neuville will be laughing as things stand.

[EstWRC]

Tanak and Meeke have lost big big pts on this rally. Drivers and the Toyota team will be gutted.

Adamo & Neuville will be laughing as things stand.

i want to see onboard of Tänaks puncture causing moment.

Meeke admitted yesterday it was his fault, Latvala did the same today. But still strange they all had punctures in Monte and now here too. Fortunately for them next tarmac rally is far away :D

But yeah champsionship wise Ott now lost chunk of points but still all good and the second half of season is his better side.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And Citroen will be even more gutted they havent been up there to take full advantage.

[cosmin_sb]

if all the three drivers has same points, who will start first in the next rally?

[EstWRC]

Ogier bcause he has two wins

[denkimi]

if all the three drivers has same points, who will start first in the next rally?
I don't know, but that won't happen. There's still the powerstage points.

[EstWRC]

Citroens with very good first split

[stefanvv]

I don't know, but that won't happen. There's still the powerstage points.

Theoretically it can happen, but hardly. I guess none of them would want the 5 points anyway:D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Michel XIV @rockollector

The last time Evans had an 11,5 seconds lead with 3 stages to go was Argentina 2017. We all know how that went.

[eib1]

5th still possible for Tänak, 40 sec from Suninen

[er88]

i want to see onboard of Tänaks puncture causing moment.

Meeke admitted yesterday it was his fault, Latvala did the same today. But still strange they all had punctures in Monte and now here too. Fortunately for them next tarmac rally is far away :D

But yeah champsionship wise Ott now lost chunk of points but still all good and the second half of season is his better side.Certainly something Toyota will have a look at surely. They might be the drivers fault here (but in Monte it wasn't the case), and I just think maybe the Toyota is a bit weaker in that department (as in, it'll take a bit less to puncture a tyre than other teams?).

Meeke and Jari admitted their mistakes and maybe Tanak's was his own as well, but all 3 drivers getting punctures on two consecutive tarmac rallies is certainly an interesting coincidence :D.

Tanak and Meeke had the potential speed wise to take big points this weekend though, whereas Latvala probably wouldn't have. That is what will piss Makinen off, this should've been a big haul of pts for Toyota given the cars strength and the drivers speed. Big let off for Hyundai

[EstWRC]

ogier flying!!!

[mknight]

Happens, Hyundai had all the "potential" in Mexico, and ended with one 4th place.

[jonkka]

Let's hope Sordo doesn't bend under Ogier's pressure.

[KKS]

hohoho that Neuville 1st split :)

[EstWRC]

i think Ogier will get him anyway considering the speedon this stage

[er88]

If Thierry wants to make a statement this would be the time to do it....

[EstWRC]

Ogier already 8 sec up on Sordo in second split

[jonkka]

Ogier already 8 sec up on Sordo in second split

Aw, shait...

[EstWRC]

it seems Citroen has told Lappi to up the speed not letting Tänak pass.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Amazing this stage for Ogier compared to his speed on the others.

[EstWRC]

cmon ott show some more speed, you have to get Lappi

[mknight]

Amazing this stage for Ogier compared to his speed on the others.

Well they seemingly spend all testing improving setup for this kind of stage.

[EstWRC]

shit, evans split not good

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville is coming for Evans.

[cosmin_sb]

Ogier will pass Sordo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well they seemingly spend all testing improving setup for this kind of stage.

Maybe it paid off the time he's taken off Sordo on it ...

And with an engine ALS issue !

[EstWRC]

damn this is hard for Tänak, Neuville goes into the lead and Ogier up to third

[mknight]

Strange pace from Sordo, given he won first pass.

[EstWRC]

Evans +8 to Neuville in 4th split

[BigWorm]

Go on Thierry!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dani Sordo, you lost a lot of time, what happened ? 'The others drove faster !' :D

[EstWRC]

amazing stage Neuville, hats off!

[stefanvv]

Dani Sordo, you lost a lot of time, what happened ? 'The others drove faster !' :D

The next comment was brilliant

[KKS]

ouuuu Neuville win a stage!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow, Neuville. Respect.

[USER47]

I guess the question if Neuville will try to win is answered.:-D

[jonkka]

I guess the question if Neuville will try to win is answered.:-D

As well as the can he -part, too.

[EstWRC]

great second part of the stage from Ott, dunno what happened in the beginning

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shiiiiiiiiit its gone.

[er88]

No - next question please.Big big statement of intent. You were saying Mintex??? :(

Fair play to Neuville, he's pulled that time out his arse like the best drivers can do. He's smelt blood. Incredible, we'll still get a fight for the victory going down to the wire at least :)

[EstWRC]

Evans just cant beat Neuville

[stefanvv]

disappointing.

[mknight]

Nerves?

[EstWRC]

haha Ott just let all the world know he doesnt care about the manu points :D


disappointig stage from Evans, really disappointing

[stefanvv]

someone's on fire, but not Neuville

[er88]

Nerves?Could be, he might have bottled it.

[jonkka]

someone's on fire, but not Neuville

Camilli

[wwbroe]

Yes, Camilli's car is burning, Pienazek went off heavily

[Fast Eddie WRC]

One to relax us after that...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D27AvrgXcAE909R.jpg:large

[KKS]

If stage redflaged did Peiniczek could resume? get a rope and towed by another car?

[Pršljen]

Definitely the most exciting loop in quite some time. Who would've thought that Neuville wil finish the day as a leader with Ogier on 3rd.

[ruesluporp]

Camilli !
https://zupimages.net/up/19/13/2343.jpg (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=19/13/2343.jpg)

[eib1]

Rovanpera

https://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/54464_d26hckgxcaav9jc.jpg

[EstWRC]

Definitely the most exciting loop in quite some time. Who would've thought that Neuville wil finish the day as a leader with Ogier on 3rd.

not me juding by yesterday!

Hyundai has definitely improved the car on tarmac now.

[Rallyper]

not me juding by yesterday!

Hyundai has definitely improved the car on tarmac now.

Yes from yesterday till today... :) :)

[wwbroe]

If stage redflaged did Peiniczek could resume? get a rope and towed by another car?

It was quite heavy impact, not sure of the state of the car

[WRC1]

One to relax us after that...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D27AvrgXcAE909R.jpg:large

nice picture, yes....but i am rallye fotografer....and most of the Pictures from Tour de Corse are on road section...and that makes me very sad....

[mknight]

not me juding by yesterday!

Hyundai has definitely improved the car on tarmac now.

Yes and look how slow Loeb is, both compared to last year and to his teammates now.

[Mintexmemory]

Big big statement of intent. You were saying Mintex??? :(

Fair play to Neuville, he's pulled that time out his arse like the best drivers can do. He's smelt blood. Incredible, we'll still get a fight for the victory going down to the wire at least :)
In the words of Jack Nicholson -‘Jeez don’t I look a f***ing a**hole’
Fair play to TN. Let’s see who’s got the tyres left for tomorrow, long stage then PS, going to be v interesting.

[EstWRC]

championship standings with current positions

Neuville 80
Ogier 76
Tänak 73

[Rallyper]

Neuville the fighter, as it looks now.
Evans was tha man of the day yesterday, but today just doesn´t be enough. The pace was good but some guys were faster.

[Rallyper]

Hartusvuori just quoted from Twitter on All Live... :)

[Mintexmemory]

championship standings with current positions

Neuville 80
Ogier 76
Tänak 73
Power Stage carries extra spice with thoughts about first on the road in Argentina also in the equation.

[EstWRC]

im actually not ruling out Sordo getting back to third...if the stages tomorrow are like todays first two stages, fast and smooth, the citroen isnt working well.

Ogier definitely cant just cruise

[dimviii]

https://scontent.flgg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/55780703_2061293107252606_2957939561528819712_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.flgg1-1.fna&oh=2330ea0a775d0160a5debdda190e6a2e&oe=5D074E1D

[Mintexmemory]

im actually not ruling out Sordo getting back to third...if the stages tomorrow are like todays first two stages, fast and smooth, the citroen isnt working well.

Ogier definitely cant just cruise
100% agree -no one in the top 4 can cruise, 30seconds gap can disappear quickly as we’ve seen often in the last 2 days. Being on the podium in a car that isn’t working well (better than Sordo when it mattered though) says all you need to know

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fsbSHfjXBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4w84Yb9U2f0

[EstWRC]

punctures this rally

Toyota - 4
Other teams - 0

[SubaruNorway]

punctures this rally

Toyota - 4
Other teams - 0

Yet, Mäkinen calls for the mousse to come back...

[mknight]

Yet, Mäkinen calls for the mousse to come back...

I wouldn't really mind. Even though on tarmac it's mostly Toyota that has punctures in Mexico basically every 2nd WRC car got a puncture, some even multiple ones (Ogier). On quite a few rallies last year the situation was similar.

But Porter mentioned on alllive that they were expensive (400 euro/piece) - that doesn't sound so expensive to me considering how much money teams use on carbon pieces that get ripped off every second stage.


Btw. Sordo said in the media zone that Sunday stages are quite bumpy, specially the first one.

[SubaruNorway]

But you're not going to increase the sustainability of these cars or bring more privaters by doubling the tyre budget

[COD]

Mouse tyre problems:
- very expensive
- more cutting, road degration (expensive for organizers, horrible for privateers, wrc2, juniors etc
- even less level playing field for private teams - no chance to get those tyres
- more punctures for those without mousse
- speed increase, demand for even slower roads

[denkimi]

But you're not going to increase the sustainability of these cars or bring more privaters by doubling the tyre budget
can they reuse the mousse when they change tyres?

if so it should be cheaper running with mousse than without, since you don't wreck the rim or anything else by driving on a flat tyre.

[AnttiL]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8C5LiJ7wRc

This is what the power stage will look like, as seen on this onboard from 2012. This year's stage starts from 6:33 and extends a bit further than in 2012. On the section from 6:33 to the finish the average speed on Breen's S2000 car is as high as 107 km/h. There's no junctions or other tight corners, no chicanes either, a couple of long straights even. This will be fast.

[dupanton]

At least 2 of those punctures where caused by the drivers (Meekes first and Latvala). They admitted themselves.
I think there drivers take more risks (in cuts). I can't see any other explanation when they now used stronger rims and still have the same problem.

Makinen shouldn't ask for "runflat" tyres, he should search the real reason :)

[Mirek]

But you're not going to increase the sustainability of these cars or bring more privaters by doubling the tyre budget

Which privateers with WRC cars?

[trykmann]

At least 2 of those punctures where caused by the drivers (Meekes first and Latvala). They admitted themselves.
I think there drivers take more risks (in cuts). I can't see any other explanation when they now used stronger rims and still have the same problem.

Makinen shouldn't ask for "runflat" tyres, he should search the real reason :)

When you look at the onboards, then other drives approached this corner the same way as Tänak and Latvala. I understand cutting the corners is always risky, but this is a bit strange.

[EstWRC]

Moorning guys!

still a lot of km's and great battles ahead and very interesting power stage!


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i just hope Evans doesnt bin it when going flat out this morning

[KKS]

I think Neuville can win this and hold his position, but Dani will be on attack.

[mknight]

Mouse tyre problems:
- very expensive
- more cutting, road degration (expensive for organizers, horrible for privateers, wrc2, juniors etc
- even less level playing field for private teams - no chance to get those tyres
- more punctures for those without mousse
- speed increase, demand for even slower roads

- I was questioning the "very expensive" part. I dunno how the mouse is applied but I would assume you could attach it to the rim in some way (instead of the tire, or something similar with the same function). So their "use" will be on the order 10-15 per car/rally. With 400 euro per piece that is 6 000 euro which does not look expensive at all to me for WRC cars. Even if you attach one to each tire that is mounted on the car its about 30 tires/car = 12 000 euro. But this is just my quick assumptions which is why I write them here to get some feedback of people with more accurate figures.

- "Private teams" is kind of void if it's only allowed for "factory" WRC teams, only the likes of Suninen and Tideman were somehow "private" recently. But if the above listed price figures are anywhere near correct it doesn't look like a massive expense.

- Cutting and road degradation is a valid concern, how about allowing their use only on gravel roads (drivers cut there anywhere they can anyway).

- Speed increase (looking at avg. speed over stage, which is what FIA does) will be imo negligible (< 1 km/h)

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8C5LiJ7wRc

This is what the power stage will look like, as seen on this onboard from 2012. This year's stage starts from 6:33 and extends a bit further than in 2012. On the section from 6:33 to the finish the average speed on Breen's S2000 car is as high as 107 km/h. There's no junctions or other tight corners, no chicanes either, a couple of long straights even. This will be fast.

I think im not the only one here...May i request that you always put those stage introductions before the stage here too like you do in twitter?

thanks!

[dimviii]

Good morning guys!!


Pienaziek incar crash
https://twitter.com/OpensTightens/status/1112258678260973568

[AnttiL]

I think im not the only one here...May i request that you always put those stage introductions before the stage here too like you do in twitter?

thanks!

Nice of you to request that, but there's a probem. The tweets are scheduled through TweetDeck as I'm not always at my computer when the stage starts and even then I'm busy watching it ;) But this was a special feature which I decided to post here.

[AnttiL]

Stage delayed by 5 min

[mknight]

Good morning guys!!


Pienaziek incar crash
https://twitter.com/OpensTightens/status/1112258678260973568

Misses the most important part... his well-delivered comment right after crashing.

[EstWRC]

Stage delayed by 5 min

but its past already.

i hope it doesnt get cancelled...whats the reason anyway?

[KKS]

1min to go

[Rallyper]

Morning boys. (And girls(?) Here we go.

[KKS]

Meeke just 30 sec behind of Loeb and already engage "sunday driving". Even not try

[jonkka]

Meeke just 30 sec behind of Loeb and already engage "sunday driving". Even not try

Day's stages are only 50 kilometers, so...

[Rallyper]

well, top six seven guys will not hold their horses...

[EstWRC]

Ott wants to get Suninen it seems, definitely not crusing as others

[KKS]

Day's stages are only 50 kilometers, so...
I know, but my eyes full of blood when I see that WRCar driving stage like Citoren C1 :/

[mknight]

Meeke just 30 sec behind of Loeb and already engage "sunday driving". Even not try

He's saving tires so he can take points on PS at the expense of Tanak like usual this year.

[jonkka]

I know, but my eyes full of blood when I see that WRCar driving stage like Citoren C1 :/

I've certainly noticed your testosterone fueled comments before.

[Mise]

Meeke just 30 sec behind of Loeb and already engage "sunday driving". Even not try

Getting Loeb and 1 point more or win the PS and get 5 points.
Pure maths

[Tarmop]

Or take them away from neuville and Ogier...depends how you look at it.

[EstWRC]

Sordo?

[EstWRC]

Evans puhsing hard!

[dimviii]

Tanak took plenty time from Suninen

[EstWRC]

Neuville + 7 in first split!!!

[KKS]

oohh Neville already down to 2nd

[EstWRC]

this fast stage doesnt suit Hyundai

[AnttiL]

Wow this stage is fast, average speeds pushing 120 km/h!

[KKS]

gggg Good comment from Suninen ))))

[stefanvv]

wow what speed from Fords

[Rallyper]

Suninen and Evans doing fine. The Fiestas is really good on this island!

[wwbroe]

Evans is flying:eek:

[EstWRC]

Neuville + 12 in second split

cmon ELfyn!!!