[WRC] Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2019

[RS]

Κopecky slightly faster at 2nd split now

And at stage end. I guess Kalle takes it easy with no (?) spare.

[RS]

Gryazin fastest midstage at splits

Do we know what tyre brand Gryazin is using this weekend?

[Got Mail]

Do we know what tyre brand Gryazin is using this weekend?

Michelin.

[dimviii]

Do we know what tyre brand Gryazin is using this weekend?

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2019/hfr_dsc_4923.jpg

[EstWRC]

Cmon Jari now it’s not the time to be slow.

[RS]

Michelin.

Doing very well with the 'old' car.

[er88]

What the fuck Jari. Come on

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Teemu... 2nd now on !

[EstWRC]

Suninen even slower now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Jinxed him... sorry Teemu. :(

[dimviii]

Fri 16:02 - SS6: Suninen
Problems for Teemu. His Fiesta is moving all over the road - looks like something is damaged at the right rear of the car.

[EstWRC]

Another victim

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No brakes.

[Rallyper]

he sad something ..."always..."

[er88]

Teemu doesn't think he hit anything

[mknight]

"Car without brakes is difficult to drive"

[EstWRC]

Another cruel Portugal Friday, so frustrating actually.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And some want them to go to have a tough 'Safari' rally in these cars...

[Eli]

And some want them to go to have a tough 'Safari' rally in these cars...

They already said it's going to feature on next year's calendar, only a matter of formality now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They already said it's going to feature on next year's calendar, only a matter of formality now.

Yeah... I meant Mouton who wants it tougher.

These cars are too fragile for that MO.

[Dinarte Gouveia]

Hello my friends.
Rally TV Schedule on www.rtp.pt
WRC on Portugal TV
31 Mai 2019 19:00 RTP2
01 Jun 2019 08:30 RTP1
01 jun 2019 15:00 RTP2
02 jun 2019 09:00 RTP1
02 jun 2019 12:00 RTP1

https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1

[dimviii]

And some want them to go to have a tough 'Safari' rally in these cars...

which problems are due to''hardness'' of Portugal?

[Mintexmemory]

Think Ogier is quite impressive today actually, reminds me of Portugal 2017.

6 cars cleaning for Ogier tomorrow may be the optimum road position. Interesting fight for 3rd place as it stands now but punctures May play a part at any time

[er88]

Top 4 in the championship in the top 5 places + Latvala. Will be interesting to see how Jari goes tomorrow with similar road position to the guys around him.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D757akxXoAAANsm.jpg

[mknight]

Suninen still stopped, question if he can even make it back. 200 km on public roads with completely no brakes doesn't sound like very good idea.

[dimviii]

Suninen still stopped, question if he can even make it back. 200 km on public roads with completely no brakes doesn't sound like very good idea.

did he had handbrake?

[mknight]

Didn't look like it, to stop the car for the stopline he had to stop the engine.

EDIT: Driving now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

which problems are due to''hardness'' of Portugal?

Well the heat caused the fuel pressure issue with the Hyundai's acc to Loeb. And the Fords also overheated a bit causing drivers to move off quickly at stage ends.

But the cars are generally quite fragile - only the Big 3 and Latvala have had no problems today..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another cruel Portugal Friday, so frustrating actually.

Tanak will have to rely on his team-mates to take points off Ogier and Tanak now.

[dimviii]

Well the heat caused the fuel pressure issue with the Hyundai's acc to Loeb. And the Fords also overheated a bit causing drivers to move off quickly at stage ends.

But the cars are generally quite fragile - only the Big 3 and Latvala have had no problems today..

30 degrees is not something extreme.For decades were run Acropolis and Cyprus with much more heat, without such problems.

[wrc2017]

It probably best he stop, rather than wreck that car.

[Pršljen]

It"s incredibly frustrating how Ogier never has any problems like other drivers. He will again slip into the first three or even win if Tanak's Toyota will survive untin tge end. I'm completely sure that Meeke's and Latvala's won't.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

30 degrees is not something extreme.For decades were run Acropolis and Cyprus with much more heat, without such problems.

Exactly, but they happened here to Hyundai.

[mknight]

It"s incredibly frustrating how Ogier never has any problems like other drivers. He will again slip into the first three or even win if Tanak's Toyota will survive untin tge end. I'm completely sure that Meeke's and Latvala's won't.

This kind of discussion been here since Loeb from 2004 onwards, then with VW domination it was Ogier vs Latvala and now it's Ogier only.

They "always" seem to have less issues/punctures w/e. But that can be easily turned around. it's always the drivers like Latvala, Meeke, Evans, Mikkelsen etc etc. that have puctures, car issues etc. Over multiple tens of rallies it's not due to sheer coincidence. It's just that the multiple champions don't take those 0.05% extra risks and still are fast. Also they will rather take a bit slower time in one stage and drive it safely than risk issues. If you want to be a champion fighting them you have to learn that...as Neuville found out in 2017 and Tanak in 2018. Both these two look like they start to learn that skill now as well.

[erikli2]

Meireles Polo R5 has been lost in flames on SS6. How many Polo's has been burned down by now?

[racerx1979]

Hello my friends.
Rally TV Schedule on www.rtp.pt
WRC on Portugal TV
31 Mai 2019 19:00 RTP2
01 Jun 2019 08:30 RTP1
01 jun 2019 15:00 RTP2
02 jun 2019 09:00 RTP1
02 jun 2019 12:00 RTP1

https://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp1

can someone ban this scum bag poster

[denkimi]

This kind of discussion been here since Loeb from 2004 onwards, then with VW domination it was Ogier vs Latvala and now it's Ogier only.
well, its ogier tanak and neuville. at every podium so far this year, at least 2 of them where on the podium.

[Pršljen]

This kind of discussion been here since Loeb from 2004 onwards, then with VW domination it was Ogier vs Latvala and now it's Ogier only.

They "always" seem to have less issues/punctures w/e. But that can be easily turned around. it's always the drivers like Latvala, Meeke, Evans, Mikkelsen etc etc. that have puctures, car issues etc. Over multiple tens of rallies it's not due to sheer coincidence. It's just that the multiple champions don't take those 0.05% extra risks and still are fast. Also they will rather take a bit slower time in one stage and drive it safely than risk issues. If you want to be a champion fighting them you have to learn that...as Neuville found out in 2017 and Tanak in 2018. Both these two look like they start to learn that skill now as well.

Well yes but neither of them, except Tanak, had any real issues with the car that was beyond their ability - except Tanak on multiple occasions. Neuville's and Ogier's mistakes in Chile and Sweden were clearly driving faults. That is what I'm refering to.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Østberg and Yates both with double-punctures showing the stages have become rough.

Yates:
Bad news ! That's the end of today for us. Double-puncture on SS6 and only one spare. Hardly surprising - stages have been incredibly rough.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith explains time loss:
“Had a good stage 4, but after the engine cut out, I got a little frustrated & ruined my tyres. Lack of experience but lesson learnt. Still an amazing day!”
#GG44 #MSport #FordPerformance #WRC

[mknight]

Well I think Loeb's motivation to do more starts later this year dropped a lot and will probably drop even more after cleaning for next two days. (from his interview)

[er88]

Meeke "really needs service". Could have a issue here with the car....

[KKS]

Toyota found someone to sell their broken rims... to Mads
https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg/status/1134502923461976070

[mknight]

Loeb said that fresh fuel will fix it?

[SubaruNorway]

Loeb said that fresh fuel will fix it?

Too much vapours inside the fuel tank not escaping fast enough and making the safety valve for when they roll close, cold fuel fixes it for a while from what i get

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D762xgwXoAAO8Eo.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D762x9yWsAIsXCh.jpg

[dimviii]

Sébastien Ogier
‏
"I would have signed with both hands to be where I am tonight! As expected it's been tough but it was close to a perfect day for us, excluding SS1 where we had a small issue, running 35s without boost. Other than that we've done everything we could & I'm happy with the position"

We've done a good job, but if one man has done a better job it's definitely @OttTanak, who set really good times being 2nd on the road. 2nd place is not far, it has to be our target. And tomorrow will be very long, with rough conditions in some places. It's far from being over"


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D768IFSWkAEA8MF.jpg

[dimviii]

Gary Boyd #BBP
‏ @KiwiWRCfan


Rally Trivia 192
The manufacturers title fight for 2019 effectively started again from SS6 of Rally Portugal

At end of SS5 Hyundai and Toyota both had 192 virtual #WRC manufacturer points.
Toyota 149 + 25 + 18 = 192
Hyundai 178 + 10 + 4 = 192




after SS7 Hyundai would lead Toyota by 5 points
Hyundai 178 + 15 + 4 = 197
Toyota 149 + 25 + 18 = 192

[Rally Power]

Really enjoyable first day; we were on Góis ZE9, a fast downhill section ending on a 90 degrees right corner with a fabulous view. Besides the usual WRC and top R5 crews amazing show, it was great to see guys like Greensmith, Veiby, Loubet, Gryazin or Pietarinen also performing on a high level. A shame to hear about Hyundai and Ford issues, but the top 5 fight it’s still on and those 25s can fade away on 2nd leg challenging stages.

Btw, there was a cool moment on ZE9 when the first car appeared on the mountain skyline; despite the huge crowd, for some seconds everybody contemplated the scene in absolute silence, as in a sort of ritual…probably we all felt how great it was coming back to Arganil sacred rally country!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D76r6P1W4AATl7E.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2019/hfr_dsc_5349-edit.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2019/hfr_dsc_7183.jpg


https://www.ewrc-results.com/photo/54466-vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2019/

[Meekefan]

Was a shame how people were treated yesterday on Arganil stage, namely on ZE11. People walking 10 km climbing hill. After have arrived at up hill, marshalls and scurity forces told "it is not possible to cross the road to the other side", to the ZE efectivelly. Was stupid as their statement was "only after priority drivers would be available to cross the road". That was just stupid, as in my opinion all the cars could be dangerous, not only the priorities. People was treated like cattle in a fence. I am portuguese but I am ashamed about how organization treats the rally fans. They did not deserve the rally at their stages. This has to be told and shared.

[EstWRC]

Good morning guys

#tyre info - Day 2 Morning

Evans/Suninen/Latvala: 3 MICHELIN LTX Force M6 + 2H4
Meeke/Tanak/Sordo/Loeb/Ogier: 5 M6
Greensmith: 3 H4 + 2M6
Neuville/Lappi: 6 M6

#MichelinWRC #RallyPortugal

[Rallyper]

Morning fans of rallying. Second and crucial day for RP.

[er88]

Hyundai playing games?

[racerx1979]

Seems like it. Would be nice if they are... Team Ogier started playing games early on last year... Or Sordo is having issues

[Rallyper]

Playing the games started by others, as said...

[satukata]

Nice Hyundai :)

[Rallyper]

Loeb could start working as a diplomat... on foreign office of France.

[Rallyper]

OT. Where is N.O.T.? Anyone?

[er88]

Ogier will have driven past Sordo, sometimes not the wisest choice to anger the champ...

[er88]

That dust is a bastard

[er88]

Sordo flying, 1.6s up at fkrst split to Neuville.

Now level at 2nd

[wrc2017]

Sordo flying, 1.6s up at fkrst split to Neuvillemeeke...!

[er88]

meeke...!Pushing very hard!!!!

[wrc2017]

Pushing very hard!!!!very hard... split 2!

[er88]

Balls out here from Kris

[SubaruNorway]

Toyota found someone to sell their broken rims... to Mads
https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg/status/1134502923461976070

It's not the rims, it's a wheel alignment issue with the new rear suspension wearing out the inside of the tyre i believe. They had the same on the WRC in Finland last year

[RS]

Kalle quick at split one.

[er88]

Tanak getting chewed up by Meeke? Problem?

[wrc2017]

Tank slow

[Essaj]

Tänak no brakes? :eek:

[er88]

Overheated brakes? Molly got the deathly stare LOL

[EstWRC]

Oh look tanaks Toyota striking again

Man I’m so sick of it, so so sick

Why the fuck everything comes so hardly for him?

[wrc2017]

Too much left foot braking in dust.. ?

[Rallyper]

BIG speculation about Tanaks brakes now on All Live now.

[er88]

One of the Toyota drivers stopping next to Tanak to see what's what

[racerx1979]

My screen is blank on all live wtf

[er88]

My screen is blank on all live wtfSame

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Speculation that its the same type of brake issue suffered by Teemu yesterday. If correct its just bad luck, not a car fault.

[er88]

Speculation that its the same type of brake issue suffered by Teemu yesterday. If cortect its just bad luck, not a car fault.Doesn't seem the same to me?

[AnttiL]

To me it seemed like Tänak had some brakes, whereas Suninen had no brakes at all

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä was 18 seconds faster than Kopecky, and leads WRC2Pro again

[stefanvv]

4min gaps now ?

[RS]

It's not the rims, it's a wheel alignment issue with the new rear suspension wearing out the inside of the tyre i believe. They had the same on the WRC in Finland last year

Surely this is something that proper testing should show up?

[er88]

To me it seemed like Tänak had some brakes, whereas Suninen had no brakes at allYeah it's clear Tanak had some brakes so not sure how it's the same as Suninen.

[Rallyper]

4 mins gap.

[Timmy]

Taken from Estonian media.

Peep Pahv reports on site: Toyota team has told that Tänak has everything needed with him to fix the problem himself between the stages.

[EstWRC]

Tänak still doing repairs

Won’t be on time I guess

[Rallyper]

Tänak still doing repairs

Won’t be on time I guess

meeehhh...

[Mirek]

Sorry for the question but I was out all yesterday... what happened previously to Loeb, Sordo and Ostberg?

[er88]

Taken from Estonian media.

Peep Pahv reports on site: Toyota team has told that Tänak has everything needed with him to fix the problem himself between the stages.Comments like that by Toyota run the risk of making him look like a mug if he takes too long, or can't fix the issue full stop.

It's clearly a worrying issue

[Rallyper]

WRC+ when trying to get full screen the picture freezes... why is that? Anyone?

[erikli2]

Sorry for the question but I was out all yesterday... what happened previously to Loeb, Sordo and Ostberg?

Loeb/Sordo: Fuel issues due to the heat
Ostberg: double puncture

[EstWRC]

Tänak moving now

[mknight]

Not surprised about Hyundai tactics, didn't see what Ogier said about that but it was him who introduced this in Sweden this year.

[SubaruNorway]

Surely this is something that proper testing should show up?

I have not talked to them but looks like it since all tyres look the same.
Probably but not so easy to change suspension geometry in less than two weeks

[erikli2]

Apparently, WRC 2 Pro are given 3 minutes intervals while WRC 2 are only given 2 minutes intervals. Really unfair IMO.

[SubaruNorway]

Loeb/Sordo: Fuel issues due to the heat
Ostberg: double puncture

Three punctures for Østberg, two spares

[er88]

Christ that Welsh bloke muttering away is so annoying, can barely hear what he's saying.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some great pictures today on WRC+.

[racerx1979]

I have to say so far so good for Greensmith on this event

[er88]

Not surprised about Hyundai tactics, didn't see what Ogier said about that but it was him who introduced this in Sweden this year.Looked angry and said something like "what do you want me to say"

[racerx1979]

Looked angry and said something like "what do you want me to say"

"Fair game" would have been a good comment lol

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I have to say so far so good for Greensmith on this event

Beaten Evans on both stages this morning.

[wia5958]

What happened huttenen this morning?

[racerx1979]

So rumor from service is that Sordo really feeling good with the new diff in the car.. maybe this explains his pace. Will be interesting to see Sordo in the future.

[rp]

What happened huttenen this morning?

Stopped and lost almost 10 minutes, but completed the stage. Now at the start of SS 9...

[RS]

Tanak good on splits, hopefully all fixed.

[Rallyper]

Btw. Bergkvist did a good time on SS8. Glad for him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke looks really focussed today.

Tanak on pace so brakes seem ok.

[racerx1979]

JML faster than Meeke. Tire choice coming into play. Nueville with all mediums for the long stage will be interesting. He has two spares so it's a good thing, but he could lose more time against Seb O.

[Rallyper]

To me JML was about 3,0 + secs faster then Kris.

[racerx1979]

13:43 for JML

[mknight]

Time differences are tiny so far today.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D765e-9W4AEFvYQ.jpg

[RS]

Mads very good on the splits.

[Rallyper]

Even more tactics from Huyndai. Loeb late.

[erikli2]

If it continues like this, Ogier will soon be first on the road 😁

[KKS]

When you try to beat the system - system can beat you mr. Ogier!
;)

[er88]

Boys with 5 mediums could struggle?

[Ds3]

Loeb must interfere with life on Ogier...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How is this start order shuffling benefiting Hyundai ?

[AnttiL]

How is this start order shuffling benefiting Hyundai ?

Less cars before Ogier, but the same amount before Neuville. Less road cleaning, slower road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So can a driver just choose where to start, slotting in where they like ?

[AnttiL]

So can a driver just choose where to start, slotting in where they like ?

No...this is basic rules in rallying. If you arrive late in TC, you start later, but you can be only late for 30(?) minutes, otherwise you're excluded. And obviously you get a time penalty for being late in TC. But it doesn't make a difference for these guys, having lost so much already.

[Essaj]

How is this start order shuffling benefiting Hyundai ?

Also if they are afraid of any dust issues they could start Sordo before Neuville and just ask Sordo to park the car in the first corner to let Neuville past and give him a 8min interval.

[KKS]

Loeb must interfere with life on Ogier...
From Germany'11 it's only "just some justice in a sport" ))

[Ds3]

HA HA HA, I lived to see the big champion worship someone. Great victory for Hyundai

[mknight]

When you try to beat the system - system can beat you mr. Ogier!
;)

I said it already when Ogier did it in Sweden that it's crap and they should somehow try to prevent this before it gets crazy....imagine if 2-3 other teams were doing it with their cars at the same time. Organizers can throw schedule out of the window.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Right, so they just judge how late to be to get the start position they want.

[KKS]

So can a driver just choose where to start, slotting in where they like ?
Till Sweden2018 - no, after - yes. Some one smartass broke unwritten rule.

[mknight]

Btw. Latvala did this in Mexico, but not to benefit the team, only himself.

[mknight]

Till Sweden2018 - no, after - yes. Some one smartass broke unwritten rule.
This comes from Sweden 2019, but also from Ogier.

[KKS]

This comes from Sweden 2019, but also from Ogier.
2018
https://www.ewrc-results.com/penalty/42875-rally-sweden-2018/ with Ford

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I understand doing this to benefit yourself (like Ogier did), but doing it to disadvantage an opponent of your team-mate is another level.

[wrc2017]

I understand doing this to benefit yourself (like Ogier did), but doing it to disadvantage an opponent of your team-mate is another level.
Manufacturers is more important, so ok

[Ds3]

calmly, God is watching

[KKS]

finally we get natural sounds on wrc+ hah))

[BigWorm]

finally we get natural sounds on wrc+ hah))

That was actually very sweet, for the brief moment it lasted

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You all love the pure sound - so email and tell them.
support@service-plus.wrc.com

[the sniper]

Picture and sound direction has been all over the place on this stage....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith really struggling on this one.

[Tauri_J]

Boys with 5 mediums could struggle?

could be but dont think so...this stage is so sandy...like dakar as Lappi said

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Teemu having issues ?

Down on power. :(

[SubaruNorway]

Teemu having issues ?

Down on power. :(

Normal power he said, road mode button not working just switching off the engine to not burn up the turbo

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Normal power he said, road mode button not working just switching off the engine to not burn up the turbo

Why so slow then ?

[Rallyper]

Latvala doing well.

[dimviii]

Why so slow then ?

probably not ideal road position as yesterday

[Fast Eddie WRC]

probably not ideal road position as yesterday

On this stage disadvantaged by Hyundai tricks also ...

[doubled1978]

Lappi time from 2nd on the road very good on this one..

[Mise]

Does Sordo use the word "kirraa" on his notes?
tightens = in finish kiristyy = kirraa

[EstWRC]

Tänak brakes again?

[dimviii]

On this stage disadvantaged by Hyundai tricks also ...

at previous 2 stages he was 8th at both loosing to stage winners 25 sec,so yesterdays pace was clearly from road position.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No comment by Neuville on the tactics...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

at previous 2 stages he was 8th at both loosing to stage winners 25 sec,so yesterdays pace was clearly from road position.

He was close to Lappi times today until this one though...

Maybe Lappi just did a great stage.

[Mise]

Neuville uses the handbrake lot more than other drivers.
Wonder if it's his style or cos of the car

[dimviii]

Enans between splits 3- 6 must drove really well

[dimviii]

He was close to Lappi times today until this one though...

Maybe Lappi just did a great stage.

wrong to compare with Lappi.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

wrong to compare with Lappi.

Why ?

[tommeke_B]

Lol @ Meeke: "I've been enjoying it. Relative to this time, last year I was on my way to the hospital and out of a job, so it's been a good morning."

[wrc2017]

Lol @ Meeke: "I've been enjoying it. Relative to this time, last year I was on my way to the hospital and out of a job, so it's been a good morning."
Fucking hilarious!!!

[dimviii]

Why ?

because he is not the speed reference,nor has the stability pace at every stage.

[Rallyper]

As long as JML and Tanak are 1st and 2nd Tanak will win.

[Eli]

What a blinder by Latvala, nice to see him on pace every now & again.

[SubaruNorway]

Neuville uses the handbrake lot more than other drivers.
Wonder if it's his style or cos of the car

It's the car, you can see Mikkelsen do it on 5th gear corners sometimes

[Got Mail]

Veiby Stopped?

Fire extinguishers at the ready.

[Rallyper]

Two victims in WRC2. Veiby and Pieniazek...

[wrc2017]

What a blinder by Latvala, nice to see him on pace every now & again.
Will he be short on hard tyres by end of rally?

[Mirek]

Gryazin stopped too.

[Rallyper]

Now Gryazin stopped. Lot of punctures?

Maybe helping Veiby? Let´s hope not that´s the case...

[Got Mail]

Gryazin also stopped. I'm guessing puncture.

[racerx1979]

Tanak seems really grumpy and frustrated this year... I think he's under too much pressure. TGR with a fiery group haha

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-JzanXoAAWj0q.jpg

[RS]

Now Gryazin stopped. Lot of punctures?

Maybe helping Veiby? Let´s hope not that´s the case...

Gryazin made more splits than Veiby so I don't think so.

[Essaj]

Erik Veiby
‏ @VeibyErik
Vastauksena käyttäjille @OpensTightens ja @pieniazekrally

Car burning��
14.03 - 1. kesäk. 2019


Yikes if true

EDIT: Its true https://twitter.com/OCVeiby/status/1134777815709233152

[KKS]

Very rude Tanak are at stage-end. If you are leading and have 'no problem' so why is that? Star illness already? :(

[KKS]

Erik Veiby
‏ @VeibyErik
Vastauksena käyttäjille @OpensTightens ja @pieniazekrally

Car burning��
14.03 - 1. kesäk. 2019


Yikes if true

EDIT: Its true https://twitter.com/OCVeiby/status/1134777815709233152
Oh God :s

[eib1]

Ole Christian Veiby
‏
@OCVeiby
⚠️We are stopped on SS10 due to a fire in our car. Crew ok

[Zeakiwi2]

Latvala beat by Tanak by 5.8 seconds of stage 10, Tanak in the lead by 5.1 seconds over Latvala.

[Rallyper]

Seriously there has to be an investigation from FIA on the burning Polos issue. This can´t go on!

[EstWRC]

Very rude Tanak are at stage-end. If you are leading and have 'no problem' so why is that? Star illness already? :(

What?

Of course you are frustrated when every rally you have problems with the car. Especially when he is always leading

Nothing to do being a star

[KKS]

Seriously there has to be an investigation from FIA on the burning Polos issue. This can´t go on!
Three Polo's was burn-out for last two days O_o

[RS]

Three Polo's was burn-out for last two days O_o

Miereles, Veiby and?

[dimviii]

Erik Veiby
‏ @VeibyErik
5m5 minutes ago

We were so lucky, crew stopped by a firetruck

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-NOipX4AcHmcb.jpg

[KKS]

Miereles, Veiby and?
Cédric Althaus at Swiss nat.rally

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-OBEiWsAEWJi4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-OFNRWsAAXWPf.jpg

[RS]

At least Veiby managed to save the car.

[Rallyper]

At least Veiby managed to save the car.

Yeah. But for sure it was pure luck.

[tomhlord]

I could see Meeke being overtaken by Neuville and Ogier this afternoon. Will be interesting to watch.

[dimviii]

I could see Meeke being overtaken by Neuville and Ogier this afternoon. Will be interesting to watch.

will not be so easy
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/54466-vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2019/?leg=2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Who was it criticising the mentioning of Polo R5 cars having issues. Can you see why now ?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-QeNYXUAAIMDh.jpg

[RS]

Pietarinen has been a bit under the radar but is doing pretty well in WRC2.

[dimviii]

Cédric Althaus at Swiss nat.rally

Sebastien Loeb Racing car

[er88]

How have VW got this R5 project so wrong? This is VW....

[RS]

How have VW got this R5 project so wrong? This is VW....

It's very quick but there seem to be a few major reliability problems. I suppose the test programme wasn't thorough enough, especially surprising since they postponed the homologation date too.

It certainly shows how difficult it is to build a competitive and reliable R5 car.

[mknight]

will not be so easy
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/54466-vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2019/?leg=2

In every single gravel rally this year including yesterday here Toyotas have struggled (relatively) on second passes. We'll see if that trend continue today.

[Morte66]

Will he be short on hard tyres by end of rally?

I think he will have just enough.

[Morte66]

Does Portugal normally have this much attrition? I never thought of it as a tough rally, but maybe I got the wrong idea.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

ANDREA ADAMO (HYUNDAI)
"We are in situation where the fight is very tight. I think it is my job to do whatever is possible within the rules to try and win."

SÉBASTIEN OGIER
"First of all I don't think I need to comment on Hyundai's tactics. The morning was good - I'm happy with what I have done in the car. It's also confirmation that we have made some good improvements in the car."

[KKS]

It certainly shows how difficult it is to build a competitive and reliable R5 car.
Tell that to Skoda ;)

[RS]

Tell that to Skoda ;)

Well they did manage that indeed (although i remember a couple of Fabias burning, it wasn't to the extent it has been with the Polo)

But they spent a very long time working on that project, even running the mechanicals in a Fabia S2000 shell initially before the new car was available.

And maybe running a works team helps them to quicker identify and get on top of problems too.

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info - Day 2 afternoon

Ogier: 4 MICHELIN LTX Force H4 + 2M6
Lappi/Latvala/Meeke/Tanak/Neuville/Loeb: 5H4
Sordo: 3H4 +3M6
Suninen/Evans/Greensmith: 3H4 +2M6

#MichelinWRC #RallyPortugal

[Mirek]

Tell that to Skoda ;)

If you think it was easy for them you are very wrong. Building the R5 cars really is a challenge and a big one.


Well they did manage that indeed (although i remember a couple of Fabias burning, it wasn't to the extent it has been with the Polo)

But they spent a very long time working on that project, even running the mechanicals in a Fabia S2000 shell initially before the new car was available.

And maybe running a works team helps them to quicker identify and get on top of problems too.

The strange thing is that as far as I know it was known for quite a long time why they were burning but it took a lot of time to have all paper-sorted for the updated homologation.

[AnttiL]

Does Portugal normally have this much attrition? I never thought of it as a tough rally, but maybe I got the wrong idea.

It’s hotter than normally. But 2017 and 2018 were also incident packed

[RS]

The strange thing is that as far as I know it was known for quite a long time why they were burning but it took a lot of time to have all paper-sorted for the updated homologation.

Delay on the Skoda side or FIA side?

[Mirek]

Delay on the Skoda side or FIA side?

I don't know.

[RS]

I don't know.

Still I only remember a couple of Fabias burning (maybe there were more?)

At this rate the Polos are burning quicker than VW can build them.

[Mirek]

Still I only remember a couple of Fabias burning (maybe there were more?)

At this rate the Polos are burning quicker than VW can build them.

They burnt only at very specific circumstances. AFAIK what happened was that at high temperatures a faulty ventilation valve could cause the fuel tank to inflate so much that its wall clashed with the propshaft.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Here goes Evans road-sweeping again. Thanks a lot Hyundai.

[Mirek]

Here goes Evans road-sweeping again. Thanks a lot Hyundai.

You're acting like if M-Sport never played tactics...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You're acting like if M-Sport never played tactics...

To advantage themselves not to disadvantage half the field.

And they got heavily-criticised so why not say the same about Hyundai ?

[Rallyper]

To advantage themselves not to disadvantage half the field.

And they got heavily-criticised so why not say the same about Hyundai ?

They opened it and here we are...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS11 @ElfynEvans - “Running first on the road it’s so difficult and so polluted out there. It’s just impossible to be honest."

[SubaruNorway]

Neuville running on three sylinders off the startline...

[er88]

That didn't sound good for Neuville...

[KKS]

Latvala with low pace, probably already under teamorder

[KKS]

Neuville running on three sylinders off the startline...
Always notice that but splits are good

[er88]

Meeke loves this stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Jari lost a lot there worried about the car.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Damper bust it seems.

[EstWRC]

Oh cmon Jari-Matti. Can’t the guy catch a break already

[er88]

Ott does not like Molly. He really doesn't

[Mirek]

There's small oil puddle under the wheel left after Latvala. Likely leak from the damper.

Jan Kopecký with opened bonnet...

[mknight]

Fabia R5 Evo... now with more effective cooling!*

*slight vision impairment might happen

[EstWRC]

Ott also with damper issue?

Sorry guys I can’t follow closely today. Alllive not at all

[Timmy]

He had the car raised and was inspecting the car. Also had phone in hand.
No information on all-live yet.

[TypeR]

Ott also with damper issue?

Sorry guys I can’t follow closely today. Alllive not at all

Ott said, that all right with car and then Molly said JAri had some issues with front dampers, then Ott said they felt smth like that also. and then allLive showed how Ott nd Martin were checking front right and talking to phone

[EstWRC]

Thanks

Great then. Lol

[KKS]

first time this day Loeb quicker on splits than Ogier O_o.

[KKS]

Nice battle in WRC2
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_FgWyXoAAoA0M.jpg:large

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7_FMnZXYAEFja5.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

first time this day Loeb quicker on splits than Ogier O_o.

Ogier faster now.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7-_RA9XkAAL1wd.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke is going 2nd.

[Essaj]

Latvala with a really weak first splits. Is the damper totally gone?

[Mirek]

Neuville is going to win a lot of time in this stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Worse now for JML.

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport
‏

We are working flat-out to find the reason why some of our customers cars where hit by fire. We are in close contact to all our customers. The most important thing: All crews are okay! #Polo #GTI #R5

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville is going to win a lot of time in this stage.

Tactics working.

[mknight]

Some luck there for Meeke, almost rolled and then almost went off.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Oof Meeke nearly off there.

[Mirek]

Some luck there for Meeke, almost rolled and then almost went off.

Same place as Greensmith in the morning loop?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak just going steady maybe.

[mknight]

Same place as Greensmith in the morning loop?

Dunno wasn't watching in the morning.

[SubaruNorway]

Same place as Greensmith in the morning loop?

Yes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

First Tanak Toyota team-mate dropped away. :(

[rp]

It would really be the right time for Latvala to retire. He just can´t complete the whole event without some issues Poor guy!

[Tauri_J]

Yeah, its like he's cursed or something lol