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Andre Oliveira
14th October 2018, 15:21
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DpefJ67WwAYPyIb?format=jpg&name=large

N.O.T
14th October 2018, 15:54
Serderidis makes nombre look good... the guy is a disgrace.

Tarmop
14th October 2018, 16:00
He is a rich guy having fun, Wilson earns some money and that`s that.

dupanton
15th October 2018, 07:01
Serderidis makes nombre look good... the guy is a disgrace.

He sponsored so many young drivers (in Belgium and some foreign drivers), he can do whatever he wants. He is having fun, just let him enjoy his passion.

Andre Oliveira
15th October 2018, 08:42
I like see those gentlemen drivers with great cars, good liveries... Rally is that too.

AnttiL
15th October 2018, 08:46
The route is quite renewed for this year, only the Sherwood stage is exactly the same as last year. Although, no stage is completely new, every stage has something that has been driven before and only one stage (reversed from 2014) has no roads from last year's rally.

jbmarcus21
16th October 2018, 16:40
Google Earth map Australia ➡️ http://bit.ly/2J33lJf

racerx1979
16th October 2018, 21:14
Google Earth map Australia ➡️ http://bit.ly/2J33lJf

Nice... lets hope they fix the spectating issues... I think the Coffs location will be gone for the future. Too far from Sydney and Melbourne.

kiwiny
19th October 2018, 01:30
If anyone is following Rally Australia this year and has a spare seat in their car please let me know - obviously happy to share costs. Lets hope the championship goes down to the wire!

mknight
22nd October 2018, 19:56
Any confirmation about the theory that Sordo is also going to Australia (so Hyundai with 4 cars?).

I actually liked the explanation that they will not nominate Neuville for manu points so that he can concentrate on driver title and instead nominate the 3 others.

Tarmop
22nd October 2018, 20:42
Interesting. Wonder, if Toyota would bring Meeke in that case. Been pretty good there.

er88
23rd October 2018, 02:03
When does the entry list for this close? Or has it closed already?

wwbroe
23rd October 2018, 06:47
When does the entry list for this close? Or has it closed already?

According to rallyguide2 the entry list should have come out on 19th of oktober, but i haven't seen it yet.

AnttiL
23rd October 2018, 07:14
It’s in FIA’s hands now. It’s not the first time this year the entry list is late (or then it has come from FIA but they are lazy to put it online)

EstWRC
23rd October 2018, 07:27
FrenchInternationalAssociation

GravelBen
23rd October 2018, 07:39
I actually liked the explanation that they will not nominate Neuville for manu points so that he can concentrate on driver title and instead nominate the 3 others.

Doesn't make much sense to me? I get the idea but it won'treally change the pressure on him, and if they think he can win then they want manufacturer points from the win too... would be an awkward situation if there is a conflict of interest between his DC points vs the others MC points, would they use team orders to favour one or the other?

mknight
23rd October 2018, 10:24
Adding 4th car gives them more options to play with points for both championships. Although I think that manu title is now just about won by Toyota.
I also guess they have to nominate for manu points long before the rally (possibly already when entering the crew?).

Anyway these kinds of last-rally title fights very often end with one or more of the fighting crews crashing out. (lately Hirvonen and Loeb who both ended DNF, McRae and Burns etc..).
It is also possible that say Ogier drops out for some reason and even win won't be enough for Tanak so Neuville will cruise on some 4-6th place without risk (like he did to keep 2nd in 2016). I does indeed sometimes happen that multiple contenders finish, but it's rather rare compared to the number of times one or both crash (Solberg vs Loeb 2003).

Mirek
23rd October 2018, 11:21
Škoda has just released a press information confirming that Jan Kopecký and Pavel Dresler are WRC2 champions which must mean that Pontus Tidemand didn't use his theoretical option to brake the contract and go into Australia on his own (not saying he wanted to do that but Škoda was obviously waiting for closing the entries with this announcement).

AnttiL
23rd October 2018, 19:32
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqNu9REUcAADU9s.jpg

mknight
23rd October 2018, 20:04
So it was wrong rumor (think it actually originated from the organizers though).

AnttiL
23rd October 2018, 20:22
Maybe the organizers just didn't know which of the Hyundai drivers would do the event :D

Andre Oliveira
23rd October 2018, 22:41
They fixed the post :)

Jarek Z
24th October 2018, 17:25
Is the second page of the entry list still coming or is that all there is? ;)

[RMC]Pip
28th October 2018, 17:06
Can go really crazy but some easy to calculate and realistic outcomes of Rally Australia:

Ogier 1st - Ogier CHAMP
Ogier at least 3rd and ahead of Neuville - Ogier CHAMP
Neuville 1st & Ogier 2nd - Neuville at least 4th on PS w/ Ogier 1st on PS - Neuville CHAMP
Neuville 2nd & Ogier 3rd / Neuville 3rd & Ogier 4th - whoever finishes ahead on PS (in point scoring position) is CHAMP
Tanak 1st + 1st on PS - Neuville 2nd on PS + not higher than 7th - Ogier 2nd on PS + not higher than 9th - Tanak CHAMP

For the championship contenders it seems that the only way to approach the rally is to go flat out. The PS can be a real thriller if the Toyotas are in the mix for the top position and Ogier is right behind Neuville.

mknight
28th October 2018, 17:15
Pip;1197530']

The PS can be a real thriller if the Toyotas are in the mix for the top position and Ogier is right behind Neuville.

Yeah, just looked at the schedule, not much sleep for us living in Europe.

Ogier was really far back last year from first on the road, but obviously motivation wasn't really on the top. Think it's very likely that one of the top 3 does some mistake. I mean at various points it will likely be "push or loose" for just about every single one of them.

EstWRC
28th October 2018, 17:23
it will be a thriller indeed, i really hope it goes all the way until the power stage, but if one of them retires already on the first day then the excitement is over already unfortunately.

Tänaks chances are only mathematical, he basically needs Neuville and Ogier to have rally2....even if it is so like you say, that he is winning and taking max PS points and Neuville is 7th and Ogier 9th at that moment, then they will have their teammates in front of them and they will let them pass and it isnt enough for Ott.

cant wait, luckily only some weeks left.

bomber21
28th October 2018, 17:50
Fingers crossed! It is now or never for Neuville I think.

focus206
28th October 2018, 20:50
Fingers crossed! It is now or never for Neuville I think.

Agree. Even if I see Ogier as the favourite, Neuville has the chance of a lifetime now, but he needs a perfect rally. And even so Tanak, who starts 3rd on the road, will be tough to beat.

tommeke_B
28th October 2018, 20:56
Fingers crossed! It is now or never for Neuville I think.

Some people said the same last year. ;)

Arnold Triyudho Wardono
28th October 2018, 22:43
SebO for the driver title, Toyota for the manufacturer..

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Barreis
29th October 2018, 12:27
Only 29 entrants with ASN drivers?! This rally should be out of calendar...

Tarmop
29th October 2018, 12:54
A bit sad yes, especially considering this years tight battle, very easy to get good points. Probably wouldn`t change anything this year, but if the keep doing those events far away with easy points available for slow, rally2 and WRC2 drivers, they should do it like they do in JWRC, more points.

racerx1979
29th October 2018, 13:35
SebO for the driver title, Toyota for the manufacturer..

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Sweeping will be huge disadvantage for Ogier. I know Nueville was a little upset and wanted to have maybe a 1-2 point +/- going into Australia.

Wasn't Ogier sweeping last year and had an off? Australia day one can be nasty and it has been super dry this year. We've had no rain and drought problems in NSW. The roads will be dry soft and dusty if it continues this way...

focus206
29th October 2018, 14:11
Sweeping will be huge disadvantage for Ogier. I know Nueville was a little upset and wanted to have maybe a 1-2 point +/- going into Australia.

Wasn't Ogier sweeping last year and had an off? Australia day one can be nasty and it has been super dry this year. We've had no rain and drought problems in NSW. The roads will be dry soft and dusty if it continues this way...

I think Neuville definitely has chances to beat Ogier on speed, considering the sweeping... I think the point is if he'll have the mind to do it and keep it on the road.

AnttiL
29th October 2018, 17:02
Last year Ogier had a gear shift issue on Friday and lost about 20 seconds to Neuville. But on two stages he didn't have the issue and was actually faster than Neuville. Meanwhile, Mikkelsen was blowing everyone out of the water with a good starting position. So I wouldn't say being second on the road is such a great advantage to being first on the road, but further back you get far more grip. I would say it will be another Tänak showdown from the first stage.

mknight
29th October 2018, 17:23
I was looking at the manu points and MSPORT really has only theoretical chance, basically they need win +2-3 place and Toyota best 4th with two other cars completely out (no SR). Hyundai has some chance but still needs that 2 of 3 Toyotas drop to 7+ position if one stays near podium.

For drivers I think Neuville has a good chance to finish ahead of Ogier, but whether that's enough depends on the other drivers and PS. Tänak, Latvala, Mikkelsen and maybe Paddon can all mix in there.

Tänak needs to win and basically that both Ogier and Neuville crash, cause if they don't their teammates can let them go high enough up.

AnttiL
29th October 2018, 20:16
Route preview: https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/10/29/route-preview-rally-australia-2018/

A lot of new stage titles, reversing and modification but none of the stages are totally new. Just like Rally Finland. And similarly, only one stage is run similarly as last year, which is a particularly fast stage which contains the only forest stage chicane. Just like Rally Finland...

AL14
29th October 2018, 21:06
If they will arrive at PS with 3 points difference at standings (e.g. Neuville 2nd O/A and Ogier 3rd O/A) everything will be decided at the PS and who will arrive ahead will win the championship. This will be a very interesting and emotional scenario

racerx1979
30th October 2018, 12:50
Yes yes but our road conditions are very very different this year due to the worst drought we've had in years... We will see how this all plays out.

lluisva555
2nd November 2018, 15:40
WRCWings review of how the teams arrive to Australia based on the chassis jokers spent on aerodynamics

https://wrcwings.wordpress.com/2018/11/01/2018-aero-jokers-review-or-how-the-wrc-teams-arrive-to-the-decisive-rally-australia/

mknight
2nd November 2018, 21:33
WRCWings review of how the teams arrive to Australia based on the chassis jokers spent on aerodynamics

https://wrcwings.wordpress.com/2018/11/01/2018-aero-jokers-review-or-how-the-wrc-teams-arrive-to-the-decisive-rally-australia/

Nice summary. Hyundai said they did some suspension changes before Spain. Not sure if it involved any jokers. (that can be searched in FIA docs online afaik)

lluisva555
4th November 2018, 15:45
Nice summary. Hyundai said they did some suspension changes before Spain. Not sure if it involved any jokers. (that can be searched in FIA docs online afaik)

I'm unable to find anything from FIA related to jokers, but I found some sources referring to a new joker spent on suspension and transmission improvements in Spain, so I have incorporated into the post. Thanks!

traxx
4th November 2018, 17:23
You can find a FIA document here :
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/toutesvoitures_2018_12.10.2018.pdf

EstWRC
4th November 2018, 19:12
exactly in two weeks time we will know the champion.

AnttiL
4th November 2018, 20:24
exactly in two weeks time we will know the champion.

Should know it already at 5-6 AM Finnish/Estonian time on Sunday morning

lluisva555
4th November 2018, 20:34
Thanks traxx, really helpful! It has been incorporated it into the post

EstWRC
4th November 2018, 21:11
Should know it already at 5-6 AM Finnish/Estonian time on Sunday morning

Yeah but I was sleeping at that time today.

AL14
4th November 2018, 21:25
exactly in two weeks time we will know the champion.

I tell you what will happen. Tanak will be leading at sunday, Neuville second and Ogier third. Who will arrive ahaed at PS from Ogier and Neuville will be World Champion. Ogier will go off into a tree, three minutes later Neuville will do the same at the same corner because he will be disturbed by Ogier car. Tanak will arrive, take 5 points and become WDC.
If this happen I want a crate of Vana Tallin directly at my home before Christmas.

mknight
4th November 2018, 21:42
I know most people (including me) are looking forward to close fight all weekend, but it might as well end with 2 drivers having random technical issue in first 2 stages....

stefanvv
4th November 2018, 22:38
I tell you what will happen. Tanak will be leading at sunday, Neuville second and Ogier third. Who will arrive ahaed at PS from Ogier and Neuville will be World Champion. Ogier will go off into a tree, three minutes later Neuville will do the same at the same corner because he will be disturbed by Ogier car. Tanak will arrive, take 5 points and become WDC.
If this happen I want a crate of Vana Tallin directly at my home before Christmas.

Aren't You modest:D

EstWRC
5th November 2018, 06:20
i tell you what will happen. Tanak will be leading at sunday, neuville second and ogier third. Who will arrive ahaed at ps from ogier and neuville will be world champion. Ogier will go off into a tree, three minutes later neuville will do the same at the same corner because he will be disturbed by ogier car. Tanak will arrive, take 5 points and become wdc.
If this happen i want a crate of vana tallin directly at my home before christmas.

deal!

dodge33cymru
5th November 2018, 08:45
I know most people (including me) are looking forward to close fight all weekend, but it might as well end with 2 drivers having random technical issue in first 2 stages....It might do, but hey, that's motorsport - Ogier could have retired in Spain on the last stage and it wouldn't be this close. Sport is all about "what ifs" but we'll remember "what happened".

dimviii
8th November 2018, 17:45
Neuville: I still have upper hand in '18 WRC title fight over Ogier

"I think there needs to be some design work as well as just set-ups," said Neuville, who last won in Sardinia in June.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/139913/neuville-i-still-have-upper-hand-in-title-fight

racerx1979
8th November 2018, 18:23
The mindset of any champion. Will be fun to watch!

AnttiL
9th November 2018, 14:03
Previews:

Toyota https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2018/wrc/rd13-preview.html
Citroen https://media.citroenracing.com/en/finish-season-high-note?idtok=54cf2bbb3984
Hyundai https://motorsport.hyundai.com/the-greatest-showdown/

M-Sport is late again

AnttiL
9th November 2018, 14:09
Weather stuff:

Could be rainy on Friday
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/New_South_Wales/Coramba/long.html
Dry on Saturday but raining over the stages on Friday
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/New_South_Wales/Bowraville/long.html
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/New_South_Wales/Urunga/long.html

Sunday stages are located at the same area as Friday, could rain then as well.

Obviously it's still a week to the rally, the forecasts could still change but would be interesting on rainy conditions...

WRC1
9th November 2018, 15:22
Weather stuff:

Could be rainy on Friday
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/New_South_Wales/Coramba/long.html
Dry on Saturday but raining over the stages on Friday
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/New_South_Wales/Bowraville/long.html
https://www.yr.no/place/Australia/New_South_Wales/Urunga/long.html

Sunday stages are located at the same area as Friday, could rain then as well.

Obviously it's still a week to the rally, the forecasts could still change but would be interesting on rainy conditions...

....this Rain on Friday could help Ogier!!! would be great :)

racerx1979
9th November 2018, 16:54
The weather reports in NSW are a big joke to be honest. It rarely rains for more than an hour this time of year. This is the kind of weather that can really screw over people because it pours crazy hard for an hour then its sunny and hot. If you're on stage when it starts to hamma down (as we they say in straya) then you are in trouble.

But for us mere mortals it just adds to the crazy season. Already excited for 2019 and 2018 isnt even over.

If the turnout in AUS for spectators is weak it says a lot about the Coffs Harbour location.

Fast Eddie WRC
10th November 2018, 10:08
M-Sport preview:
http://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2018/11/09/ALL-TO-PLAY-FOR-IN-AUSTRALIA

Malcolm Wilson on Aus etc:
https://www.talkativebroadcasting.co.uk/2018/11/m-sport/malcolm-wilson-m-sport-25/

dimviii
12th November 2018, 13:36
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2018/post-1812-0-09702200-1542029256.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2018/post-1812-0-53406000-1542029271.jpg

bomber21
12th November 2018, 14:05
I would expect teams to protect their drivers and not have them doing extreme sports just before the final round of the championship.

BigWorm
12th November 2018, 14:14
What they're doing is probably not that dramatic

racerx1979
12th November 2018, 14:37
Only thing extreme in those pics were those harnesses.. the rest is pretty tame and lame compared to driving a WRC car

dimviii
12th November 2018, 14:49
https://twitter.com/RallySportMag/status/1061791376008859648

AnttiL
12th November 2018, 15:06
What they're doing is probably not that dramatic

Recce is probably more dangerous

Rally Power
12th November 2018, 16:40
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2018/post-1812-0-09702200-1542029256.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2018/post-1812-0-53406000-1542029271.jpg

Nice to see those guys having fun together. Totally different spirit from F1 stars.

T16
12th November 2018, 17:07
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2018/post-1812-0-09702200-1542029256.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2018/post-1812-0-53406000-1542029271.jpg
Mikkelsen about half a minute behind?

Fast Eddie WRC
12th November 2018, 18:22
Colin Clark preview:
https://youtu.be/Ymjv1IrXMH4

deephouse
12th November 2018, 19:54
Wow is Teemu really that tall?

er88
12th November 2018, 19:59
There is a slight slope, and Mads is tiny. However Teemu does still look hugely tall compared to everyone

mknight
12th November 2018, 20:08
Side picture is here:
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/1061769280197283843

He is definitely a lot higher than Østberg.

racerx1979
12th November 2018, 20:38
Mikkelsen about half a minute behind?

Still learning the half tube carts... still learning

EstWRC
12th November 2018, 20:55
hmmmm

https://www.upload.ee/image/9183692/qw.png

racerx1979
12th November 2018, 21:02
Thursday night the chance of Thunderstorms very high. This will lead to wet roads on Friday morning. Will even things out for Ogier and Nueville with Tanak lurking from behind.

My good weather source (intellicast.com) says 70% chance of thunderstorms on Thursday evening and 50-60% chance rain between 3am and 11am on Friday morning.

N.O.T
12th November 2018, 21:35
my sister just bought the new fiesta st for her daily super market shopping and terrorizing the world with her non existent woman driving skills... so i am an Ogier M-sport fan now since she is my favorite person in the world.

Adjust your behavior accordingly dogs....

er88
12th November 2018, 21:35
Would rather it was a little wet.

spiderem
12th November 2018, 21:48
my sister just bought the new fiesta st for her daily super market shopping and terrorizing the world with her non existent woman driving skills... so i am an Ogier M-sport fan now since she is my favorite person in the world.

Adjust your behavior accordingly dogs....

you've got a family??? biggest news of the year, we all thought you were born in the woods and raised by wolves. That was the only possible explanation to understand your behavior.

N.O.T
12th November 2018, 21:54
you've got a family??? biggest news of the year, we all thought you were born in the woods and raised by wolves. That was the only possible explanation to understand your behavior.

nobody cares about your opinion canada, go plow some snow.

racerx1979
12th November 2018, 22:44
Your sisters ride is really nice. She let me drive it the other day... Go Seb!

AL14
12th November 2018, 22:58
hmmmm

https://www.upload.ee/image/9183692/qw.png

Is Vana Tallin better in chalices or cocktail glasses?

N.O.T
12th November 2018, 23:06
Your sisters ride is really nice. She let me drive it the other day... Go Seb!

you have to try harder with your middle schooler insults.

Allez Andruet
12th November 2018, 23:09
Is Vana Tallin better in chalices or cocktail glasses?

Vana Tallin is disastrous, whatever the jar. Never tried it since 2005 and never will. Never the less, I would like to see Tänak pull off that miracle.

Päss1928
13th November 2018, 09:16
Vana Tallin is disastrous, whatever the jar.
That is true.

AL14
13th November 2018, 09:30
Vana Tallin is disastrous, whatever the jar. Never tried it since 2005 and never will. Never the less, I would like to see Tänak pull off that miracle.

Is it? I never drink it. Anyway, me too I hope I will have the chance to taste it :)

Oliverk
13th November 2018, 09:40
Is it? I never drink it. Anyway, me too I hope I will have the chance to taste it :)

Best mixer in coctail with Vana Tallinn is champagne. Best memories guaranteed. Has to be 50% vol of course.

T16
13th November 2018, 09:48
Wow is Teemu really that tall?

I stood right near him when he was changing tyres on the RAC this year. I can remember thinking he was small and I'm not that tall too... seeing this photo confused the hell out of me.. Mads and the rest must be midgets.

T16
13th November 2018, 10:31
is the running order the championship order?

N.O.T
13th November 2018, 10:49
is the running order the championship order?Make a wild guess

T16
13th November 2018, 13:53
Make a wild guess

It's certainty I crave.

T16
13th November 2018, 13:54
M-Sport prioritising Ogier over manufacturer's crown (I guess they are nowhere near likely to win it)...

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/140019/msport-ogier-title-priority-over-teams-crown

deephouse
13th November 2018, 14:07
nobody cares about your opinion canada, go plow some snow.

You will be shitting bricks when they enter WRC with snow round

N.O.T
13th November 2018, 14:44
You will be shitting bricks when they enter WRC with snow round

i do not mind having a round in irrelevant countries like canada that nobody cares about, we already have one in australia, so its ok.

EstWRC
13th November 2018, 14:49
Best mixer in coctail with Vana Tallinn is champagne. Best memories guaranteed. Has to be 50% vol of course.

lol...i hope they dont try it.

i dont like it either, its not bad, but just not my taste...im more of a vodka and rum guy.

actually, i dont remember when was the last time i was reaalllyyy drunk....but maybe i will be this weekend ;)

spiderem
14th November 2018, 00:02
whats the latest weather forecast? just checked the site i usually use and it looks dry now for the rally.

KKS
14th November 2018, 01:00
ahahah funny vid with Nathan Quinn teach some stuff to M-Sport https://www.facebook.com/rallyaustralia/videos/183465355934392/

M1rko
14th November 2018, 07:46
Hi. I never been to Rally Australia before so maybe someone could give me some advice. How crazy the traffic can get and how about parking? Do people have to walk a lot to the stages or it is possible to park somewhere close? Any experience somebody has had will help me. Thank you


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GravelBen
14th November 2018, 08:16
Watch out for drop-bears.

racerx1979
14th November 2018, 11:12
Hi. I never been to Rally Australia before so maybe someone could give me some advice. How crazy the traffic can get and how about parking? Do people have to walk a lot to the stages or it is possible to park somewhere close? Any experience somebody has had will help me. Thank you


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Spectating sucks in Australia. Heavily policed. Other than that all is good. Never had traffic issues in the past. The turn out is always low. Not sure what it will be like this year..

dimviii
14th November 2018, 12:44
any French talking?

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46108113_10217512366466834_6182519119519154176_o.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru3-1.fna&oh=ce886570438a3bf8486b8adfa12788dd&oe=5C87CAD4

dupanton
14th November 2018, 12:59
Loeb says:
- He was impressed with Tanak this season, but he also says that Toyota had clearly the fastest car.
- Neuville is less talented then Ogier, but worked very hard to get where he is now
- Title fight might go on untill the powerstage
- He and Ogier get along very well.
- For next year they are working on a project with a private team in WRX

That are the most important things I think.

mknight
14th November 2018, 15:44
Loeb says:
- Neuville is less talented then Ogier, but worked very hard to get where he is now


I don't read french so I dunno the exact wording but I dare say it's debatable. Ogier had faster road to wrc (with Citroen), but when he got there he took his time before really charging the top (first in 3rd season he was really able to fight everywhere). Afterwards Polo was clearly dominant in the first 3 years (2013-2015, a bit lest in 2016).

Neuville wasn't all that impressive in IRC (which could be the 207), but he was 2nd in championship and beat Latvala in Polo in his 2nd full WRC season. Then Hyundai wasn't really comparable to Polo until 2016/second half.

AL14
14th November 2018, 15:51
I don't read french so I dunno the exact wording but I dare say it's debatable. Ogier had faster road to wrc (with Citroen), but when he got there he took his time before really charging the top (first in 3rd season he was really able to fight everywhere). Afterwards Polo was clearly dominant in the first 3 years (2013-2015, a bit lest in 2016).

Neuville wasn't all that impressive in IRC (which could be the 207), but he was 2nd in championship and beat Latvala in Polo in his 2nd full WRC season. Then Hyundai wasn't really comparable to Polo until 2016/second half.

Neuville's talent is remarkable but you are understimating Ogier's talent. He went fast into WRC by winning and then he challenged a man who was pretty much unchallenged for years before him with the same car. After that he totally dominated WRC driving in a class of his own for 4 years. And then again he won another WDC with a private team with less means then others manufacturers that have not been able to become champions for 20 years.

What has done Neuville to have more talent or the same talent than him?

Ds3
14th November 2018, 15:57
https://www.gismeteo.ru/weather-urunga-307118/10-days/

BigWorm
14th November 2018, 16:05
They're all pretty damn talented and hard workers, that's why three drivers are fighting for it this weekend.

dimviii
14th November 2018, 16:22
1168/5000
"I do not think I will lose it, this title, confirmed the future resident of Citroën Racing in AUTOhebdo. My chances of keeping it are good and I intend to play them thoroughly. But you are right that some time ago it would have been hard for me to bear. Today, I have five titles. This relativizes. That said, I'm always the same, I do not like losing and I do not want to find myself in this situation. Count on me to give everything ... "
Sébastien Ogier also looked back at the tensions experienced during his first visit to Citroën with Sébastien Loeb and the damaged image that resulted.
"It could hardly have been otherwise. First, whatever the discipline, it is never easy to come after such a champion. Take Sebastian Vettel in Germany. He is popular, but it has nothing to do with Michael Schumacher. Schumacher, there is one and there will not be two! It's like that… "
https://www.autohebdo.fr/wrc/actualites/ogier-j-ai-5-titres-cela-relativise-199011.html

dimviii
14th November 2018, 16:27
In the service park in Coffs Harbor everything is being prepared for the shakedown. "Everyone knows his job. Everyone is busy with his job. We are ready "says Alain Penasse. Neuville's team manager looks back once more on what happened in the final kilometers in Catalonia. "Obviously that flat tire was a damper and everything could look different but Thierry switched quickly and immediately turned the knob. He has lulled himself that the second starting point in Australia may be an advantage. Ogier says again that it is better to have the lead than to chase and that there is little difference between the first and second starting place. And yet there is a difference, especially here in Australia. It also depends on who positions himself between Ogier and Neuville. Thierry must not end up just for Ogier. In most cases, someone must also be positioned in between them. If Thierry finishes third, Ogier must finish fifth so that the gap is four points. Details could become crucial and decisive. The weather conditions naturally also play a role. Currently it is 20 degrees but in the weekend rain is predicted. When it rains here, the course becomes exceptionally slippery. That will be a completely new fact for everyone because the current generation of riders has never experienced these conditions in Australia. Rain would make the race very interesting. "
A battle plan is not on the table for Thierry Neuville. "The race must be driven. It's that simple. After every race day we will analyze everything and whether or not to adjust the strategy. Thierry must end as high as possible. Not only for themselves but also for the team because not only Thierry can become world champion, also Hyundai Motorsport. In both cases this is then a first. The first title for a Belgian and the first title for Hyundai. There is a lot at stake here "says Alain Penasse in a calm and confident way. "Thierry is calm and looks forward to the match with confidence. I am stress resistant myself. We prepare this game in the same way as we do with other competitions, with the difference that we might pay attention to the details a bit more than usual. Everyone is briefed. Everyone knows his job. Let the rally begin. "

https://www.debroodplank.be/nl/nieuws/136/alain-penasse-thierry-wordt-wereldkampioen

dimviii
14th November 2018, 16:47
itenary with Belgium time

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45799754_1908298635891940_4584557433027821568_n.pn g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru3-1.fna&oh=c9195f7e5424d238514911f9e12db7b8&oe=5C81F9BB

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 16:55
UK times are 1hr earlier. Better for the time we'll get to bed. :)

dimviii
14th November 2018, 17:01
1 hour later at Greece

er88
14th November 2018, 17:14
I don't read french so I dunno the exact wording but I dare say it's debatable. Ogier had faster road to wrc (with Citroen), but when he got there he took his time before really charging the top (first in 3rd season he was really able to fight everywhere). Afterwards Polo was clearly dominant in the first 3 years (2013-2015, a bit lest in 2016).

Neuville wasn't all that impressive in IRC (which could be the 207), but he was 2nd in championship and beat Latvala in Polo in his 2nd full WRC season. Then Hyundai wasn't really comparable to Polo until 2016/second half.Hmm i dont see it as debatable despite Neuville being brilliant. Ogier ruined Latvala and dominated Mikkelsen in the Polo for years, despite running first on the road for 2 days on every rally at one stage. He could challenge Loeb in the same car towards the start of his career and as said above, won last year despite not having the best car and being in a private team. He has the wins and titles to back up his talent and in 3 different manufacturers. He won his first stage ever in a WRC car!

If Ogier was driving that i20 last year you can bet your money he would've won the title. Neuville fucked up badly with horrible mistakes in Monte and Sweden where he chucked away 50pts. Then after clawing the pts back he made more mistakes with aggressive cuts in Germany and Spain. Let Neuville prove it over the coming years with titles and more rally wins before it's genuinely debatable. He has to get over the line and win championships.

*and yes those cuts in Germany and Spain were definitely mistakes - just in case you want to argue that ;). Certainly if we are basing it on your critical standards where you've viewed Tanak as having made mistakes in GB and Sardinia over the compressions/jumps.

EstWRC
14th November 2018, 17:18
Neuville has a new engine for Australia https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/artikel/d/2018/11/14/neuville-bekommt-zusaetzliche-power-im-finale/

10% more power and torque

bomber21
14th November 2018, 17:28
1 hour later at Greece
Thanks ;)

pantealex
14th November 2018, 17:34
itenary with Belgium time

https://scontent.fbru3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45799754_1908298635891940_4584557433027821568_n.pn g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru3-1.fna&oh=c9195f7e5424d238514911f9e12db7b8&oe=5C81F9BB

add 1h in Finland (Power Stage 4.18 AM)

dimviii
14th November 2018, 17:54
@rally_analyst

There have been 11 different stage winners in the 5 @RallyAustralia events since 2013 and in those 107 stage victories, #Ogier has won 46 times! #Mikkelsen has the 2nd most wins with 17 followed by #Latvala (14) and #Neuville (11) #WRC #WRClive #RallyAustralia

racerx1979
14th November 2018, 18:00
Neuville has a new engine for Australia https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/artikel/d/2018/11/14/neuville-bekommt-zusaetzliche-power-im-finale/

10% more power and torque

Testing new engine at such a key time will make things interesting...

AnttiL
14th November 2018, 18:04
What about M-Sport’s engine upgrade that was almost ready for Wales?

traxx
14th November 2018, 18:51
What about M-Sport’s engine upgrade that was almost ready for Wales?

I think after issues during wales test, they gave up

er88
14th November 2018, 18:52
What about M-Sport’s engine upgrade that was almost ready for Wales?Yeah that'll be interesting. Was almost ready for Wales but didn't even make it for Spain....

Sounds like a big boost for Neuville in performance terms but will it be reliable.

traxx
14th November 2018, 18:59
Neuville has a new engine for Australia https://www.rallye-magazin.de/wrc/artikel/d/2018/11/14/neuville-bekommt-zusaetzliche-power-im-finale/

10% more power and torque

10% is a huge evo !! I don't think it's the right value...

kiil
14th November 2018, 19:01
10% is a huge evo !! I don't think it's the right value...

Yes, that sounds a bit unrealistic.

Tauri_J
14th November 2018, 19:04
They're playing mind games probably.

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 19:12
10% more power and torque

lol...

nice one kid.

Tarmop
14th November 2018, 19:26
Probably the amount of torque available in the "sweet spots", That kind of increse would probably go against the rules. Just what Toyota did before Finland.

EstWRC
14th November 2018, 19:27
i was referirng to what was said in the article, I didnt make it up

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 19:33
i was referirng to what was said in the article, I didnt make it up

why did you feel the need to report on such a stupid claim ??? 10% is about 35hp more... for the current cars, or even more.

One giggigalli1 is enough in here...

br21
14th November 2018, 19:57
10% gain of course can't be true.
and theoretically if it would be truth it will only mean their previous spec engine was weak.

Rally Power
14th November 2018, 20:15
Loeb says:
- He was impressed with Tanak this season, but he also says that Toyota had clearly the fastest car.
- Neuville is less talented then Ogier, but worked very hard to get where he is now
- Title fight might go on untill the powerstage
- He and Ogier get along very well.
- For next year they are working on a project with a private team in WRX

That are the most important things I think.

Maybe one more:
-he finds the best way to solve 1st leg runing order issues is to use qualifying stage again.

mknight
14th November 2018, 20:17
Neuville's talent is remarkable but you are understimating Ogier's talent. He went fast into WRC by winning and then he challenged a man who was pretty much unchallenged for years before him with the same car. After that he totally dominated WRC driving in a class of his own for 4 years. And then again he won another WDC with a private team with less means then others manufacturers that have not been able to become champions for 20 years.

What has done Neuville to have more talent or the same talent than him?

For me there is difference between "talent" and "skill". "Talent" is what you have from the "start" of your career. Current "skill" is talent+driver development+experience.
Ogier is without a doubt more "skilled" than Neuville and has been for last 4-5 years.

But if we are comparing talent then by looking at first 2 years in WRC, Neuville and Ogier are quite comparable. On the other hand while currently Ogier and Tanak seem to be on similar (not same) skill level. I would never say Tanak had same "talent" from the start. With Neuville it's different, imo he had about same amount of "talent" as Ogier in his 1-2 seasons. Then he learned and developed slower than Ogier, but in the end now he is on similar level (not same).
All I can read is the simplified/translated quote:


- Neuville is less talented then Ogier, but worked very hard to get where he is now

Depending on the exact wording it might be that Loeb meant "starting" talent +ability to develop in that article. In that case I totally agree with him. If he meant the ability to drive fast in first rallies in WRC, then it's not so decisive difference for me.


@er88, 99% of what you wrote is what I call "skill" here, not talent and not much of the ability to develop.

Mirek
14th November 2018, 20:19
10% gain of course can't be true.
and theoretically if it would be truth it will only mean their previous spec engine was weak.

Pretty much impossible to be true unless they chose a certain point on the power and torque curve where the increase is the highest and not the peaks (let's say they could reach +10% power at 3000 rpm and +2% at 6000 rpm but for better PR effect chose the first value). Even then it doesn't sound very realistic to me.

mknight
14th November 2018, 20:25
Engine upgrade would have to be listed in the homologations I guess. In the latest list on FIA site there is nothing after Spain:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/toutesvoitures_2018_12.10.2018.pdf

stefanvv
14th November 2018, 20:28
For me there is difference between "talent" and "skill". "Talent" is what you have from the "start" of your career. Current "skill" is talent+driver development+experience.
Ogier is without a doubt more "skilled" than Neuville and has been for last 4-5 years.

But if we are comparing talent then by looking at first 2 years in WRC, Neuville and Ogier are quite comparable. On the other hand while currently Ogier and Tanak seem to be on similar (not same) skill level. I would never say Tanak had same "talent" from the start. With Neuville it's different, imo he had about same amount of "talent" as Ogier in his 1-2 seasons. Then he learned and developed slower than Ogier, but in the end now he is on similar level (not same).
All I can read is the simplified/translated quote:

Depending on the exact wording it might be that Loeb meant "starting" talent +ability to develop in that article. In that case I totally agree with him. If he meant the ability to drive fast in first rallies in WRC, then it's not so decisive difference for me.


@er88, 99% of what you wrote is what I call "skill" here, not talent and not much of the ability to develop.

I think You need a drink. Rally Australia starts in less than 24 hours.

mknight
14th November 2018, 20:30
I think You need a drink. Rally Australia starts in less than 24 hours.

Cheers

It is now time for Ogier to honor the recent tradition of his rivals and crash on SD.

EstWRC
14th November 2018, 20:32
and the last shakedown of the year just started (if there isnt a delay which i doubt very much)

stefanvv
14th November 2018, 20:33
Cheers

It is now time for Ogier to honor the recent tradition of his rivals and crash on SD.

Ouch, I just hope he doesn't damage his rollcage.

racerx1979
14th November 2018, 20:35
and the last shakedown of the year just started (if there isnt a delay which i doubt very much)

Bizarre how it starts at 8am, but the live facebook starts at 8:30..

EstWRC
14th November 2018, 20:37
wow, no delay this time. Ogier already passed

KKS
14th November 2018, 20:44
Bizarre how it starts at 8am, but the live facebook starts at 8:30..
you have a link?

KKS
14th November 2018, 20:44
Latvala joint fastest with Tanak so far

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 20:45
SD https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally

Times https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/44266-kennards-hire-rally-australia-2018/

mknight
14th November 2018, 20:46
you have a link?

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/

racerx1979
14th November 2018, 20:51
JML was feeling really good during testing and after Spain. They have found a good set up for the car which he says has made a world of a difference.

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 20:54
SD 1st run - Ogier faster than Neuville despite opening/sweeping the stage.

Later guys all faster.

EstWRC
14th November 2018, 20:57
i really like the order after 1st run :p

stefanvv
14th November 2018, 20:58
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/

Is this a feed?

racerx1979
14th November 2018, 21:00
Wow. Both Nueville and Ogier 5secs faster on second pass....

dimviii
14th November 2018, 21:05
Evans
https://twitter.com/kelliehere/status/1062817693156274176

Paddon
https://twitter.com/KiwiWRCfan/status/1062817299483156480

Neuville
https://twitter.com/OpensTightens/status/1062814226316697615

Suninen
https://twitter.com/AaronBeardIzzy/status/1062818416111697921

Paddon
https://twitter.com/RallySportMag/status/1062816411922251776

satukata
14th November 2018, 21:07
is facebook live working for you?

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 21:07
Anyone got the FB live ?

EDIT https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/2224525184425885/

rage82
14th November 2018, 21:07
Not at the moment

Sent from my Redmi Note 5 using Tapatalk

tc10a
14th November 2018, 21:08
Anyone got the FB live ?

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/2224525184425885/?notif_id=1542231338815430&notif_t=live_video

dimviii
14th November 2018, 21:08
Mads
https://twitter.com/AaronBeardIzzy/status/1062818396532826112

Lappi
https://twitter.com/AaronBeardIzzy/status/1062814795844378624

Latvala
https://twitter.com/AaronBeardIzzy/status/1062815319314460673

Ogier
https://twitter.com/AaronBeardIzzy/status/1062813388781182976

Breen
https://twitter.com/AaronBeardIzzy/status/1062816684191363072

EstWRC
14th November 2018, 21:10
that stream is like 6 minutes down

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 21:15
Colin Clark in his preview said SD was massively important for Neuville to get the i20 set-up right after struggling with over/understeer on recent gravel events.

He's pretty much slowest so far.

mknight
14th November 2018, 21:16
Colin Clark in his preview said SD was massively important for Neuville to get the i20 set-up right after struggling with over/understeer on recent gravel events.

He's pretty much slowest so far.

CC did say that, but if you look at SD here last year and also the years before the times often did not reflect much on the rally results.

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 21:21
Colin Clark in his preview said SD was massively important for Neuville to get the i20 set-up right after struggling with over/understeer on recent gravel events.

He's pretty much slowest so far.

he means like turkey where he was clearly the fastest ?

Colin Clark is one of those sad cases that he is in a sport for a million years yet he learned shit from it.

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 21:23
Latvala and then Lappi have exactly matched Tanak's time on the two runs.

Tauri_J
14th November 2018, 21:28
Tänak is rarely giving max push on shakedowns

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 21:30
what the f*** is with all the women in wrc tv ??

stupid politically correct worthless dogs....

racerx1979
14th November 2018, 21:30
The Fords are going well... The Hyundais have Hayden in the top 5, but as always, it's only shakedown.

On a side note I think Mads has a little side action going on with Molly... lol.

satukata
14th November 2018, 21:38
Mads with molly 2.57 not bad :)

T16
14th November 2018, 21:41
I think Ogier might crank it up a bit here.

An.Grondal
14th November 2018, 21:51
Some people like too look at women... Other like boys..

I will N.O.T judge... :D

Fast Eddie WRC
14th November 2018, 21:58
Neuville:
Back to the service after our two first shakedown runs (last run completed with a time of 2:57.7). Making some changes and we go again. 🚘🔧https://t.co/t8QlDh7UBc

WellEnd
14th November 2018, 22:10
The Fords are going well... The Hyundais have Hayden in the top 5, but as always, it's only shakedown.

On a side note I think Mads has a little side action going on with Molly... lol.

If anyone does then it's probably Malcolm :D

WellEnd
14th November 2018, 22:14
Engine upgrade would have to be listed in the homologations I guess. In the latest list on FIA site there is nothing after Spain:
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/toutesvoitures_2018_12.10.2018.pdf

It'd be really interesting to know if Hyundai and Ford have an engine upgrade, since Tänak & Lappi are running the old spec engine this rally AFAIK.

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 22:49
Some people like too look at women... Other like boys..

I will N.O.T judge... :D

if you want to watch women there are plenty of tv shows and web pages to look at that feature women with far better analogies than the ones we get served at WRC.tv

and if you feel the need to watch beautiful women on tv then you should have married a woman that it would please your eyes as well instead of looking for them on tv

I want people in the sport that i could learn something from them...

spiderem
14th November 2018, 23:09
Ogier saving his energy? only wrc driver with 2 passes

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 23:13
Ogier saving his energy? only wrc driver with 2 passes

shakedown is about fine tuning the car and the feeling you get from the long testing dates... its not about speed or winning it.

either you do 2 or 6 passes over a 2 km stage doesn't make a difference.

maybe the mods should make a sticky calling it "shakedown is not important you simpletons, stop overthinking over it"

WellEnd
14th November 2018, 23:15
shakedown is about fine tuning the car and the feeling you get from the long testing dates... its not about speed or winning it.

either you do 2 or 6 passes over a 2 km stage doesn't make a difference.

maybe the mods should make a sticky calling it "shakedown is not important you simpletons, stop overthinking over it"

Is he always like this?

N.O.T
14th November 2018, 23:21
Is he always like this?

someone has to keep stupidity in control in this forum with all those canadians australians and british roaming around and voicing their opinions...

if you let them off the leash this place will look like a special kids institute.

i am doing gods work son...

spiderem
14th November 2018, 23:25
Is he always like this?

you need a bit of everything for a balanced world... he contributes to that balance in his special way. You can ignore him.

spiderem
14th November 2018, 23:52
Ogier running the old aero?

mknight
15th November 2018, 00:03
if you want to watch women there are plenty of tv shows and web pages to look at that feature women with far better analogies than the ones we get served at WRC.tv

and if you feel the need to watch beautiful women on tv then you should have married a woman that it would please your eyes as well instead of looking for them on tv

I want people in the sport that i could learn something from them...

This is just priceless. The troll just got massively trolled and he is so ignorant he keeps on digging deeper in it and showing how little he knows about the sport he is "expert" on.






Let's just say it in a picture:
https://nb-no.facebook.com/Mollysport/photos/married-andersgrondal/1703220523022924/

(I apologize to those who wanted to keep on laughing for another 2-3 pages)

janvanvurpa
15th November 2018, 01:57
I want people in the sport that i could learn something from them...


You are incapable of learning..Many who could have taught you gave up sometime in the early Autumn, 2000..
And you have done nothing to learn more now then back then..
You are a classic toxic fan-boi...served with a side order of megalomania which prevents anything getting past your skull.

N.O.T
15th November 2018, 02:13
This is just priceless. The troll just got massively trolled and he is so ignorant he keeps on digging deeper in it and showing how little he knows about the sport he is "expert" on.






Let's just say it in a picture:
https://nb-no.facebook.com/Mollysport/photos/married-andersgrondal/1703220523022924/

(I apologize to those who wanted to keep on laughing for another 2-3 pages)

Involvement in motorsport does not mean you have any idea about it, check the crew of wrc radio... they are there for 100 years yet they know nothing.

i do not expect you to understand that since you are british so you have limited capabilities in comprehending things.

N.O.T
15th November 2018, 02:15
You are incapable of learning..Many who could have taught you gave up sometime in the early Autumn, 2000..
And you have done nothing to learn more now then back then..
You are a classic toxic fan-boi...served with a side order of megalomania which prevents anything getting past your skull.

i still have not figured out what hurts more in your life... your personal situation or your job situation... maybe a bit of both.

its fun though, because it shows... it really shows.

GravelBen
15th November 2018, 02:54
Is he always like this?

Just the local village idiot, most of us try to ignore his ramblings.

An.Grondal
15th November 2018, 05:22
Dude... You don´t need to go all defensive :)

skarderud
15th November 2018, 06:16
This is just priceless. The troll just got massively trolled and he is so ignorant he keeps on digging deeper in it and showing how little he knows about the sport he is "expert" on.






Let's just say it in a picture:
https://nb-no.facebook.com/Mollysport/photos/married-andersgrondal/1703220523022924/

(I apologize to those who wanted to keep on laughing for another 2-3 pages)This!

Our ignorant d..k reached a new level, deepest ever. I don't know how many seasons molly has done in Skandinavian racing, 7? 10?
Been married/living together with a rallydriver for 8 years?

I love An. Grondals answer BTW, even that one he didn't understand

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AL14
15th November 2018, 10:00
How is weather?

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 10:00
Rain forecast
https://i.imgur.com/MDS7SdG.jpg

AL14
15th November 2018, 10:01
Rain forecast
https://i.imgur.com/MDS7SdG.jpg

Did you answer me or you publish this in the same time I asked how was weather? In that case it's a nice coincidence.

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 10:13
Did you answer me or you publish this in the same time I asked how was weather? In that case it's a nice coincidence.

I was posting what I'd just seen. :)

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 10:14
Press conference: https://youtu.be/SqOQeowyp2M

Rallyper
15th November 2018, 10:25
Just coming in. Hi guys!

Please, let´s talk about the rally. I know in these genustimes (especially in Sweden) one can have thoughts about who and him/her acting in front of you on the screen....
However it has nothing to do what we are going to experience coming three days.
Let´s keep it there.

(Btw - of all fake news coming up - are you Anders Grondal really married to Molly? I know question might be weird... ;) )

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 11:37
The Hyundai World Rally Championship team has brought forward its 2019-spec engine for this weekend's Rally Australia in a bid to help Thierry Neuville's title chase.

Neuville's i20 Coupe WRC will feature a new cylinder head originally scheduled for delivery at the start of next season. The new engine specification will offer more power and torque.

"We were planning to introduce this next year, but we wanted to use the [homologation] joker this year so we don't lose it," Hyundai team principal Michel Nandan told Autosport.

"The regulations state that we could use it on only one engine - so we put it on Thierry's car.

"When you are in this position for the championship then you have to give it absolutely everything possible."

Nandan denied the move was a gamble, adding: "We've done all the endurance testing, the new engine has been [run] on the bench for a lot of time and it's done three or four tests in the car now as well."

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/140050/hyundai-gives-neuville-19-engine-for-title-bid

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 11:42
Pure sound SD vid: https://youtu.be/XExSzI9srGQ

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 12:17
cant wait for the start already and to hear whats the weather like when they finally wake up there.

8 long hours still to wait...

dimviii
15th November 2018, 13:21
Μichelin shake video
https://youtu.be/kOzi4GEeoBY

dimviii
15th November 2018, 13:24
"We took advantage of the shakedown to make some adjustments.In the beginning, we were not very happy with the behavior of the car and then it was better.Now, we have to wait for the start of the rally", explained the Belgian driver at the microphone of the RTBF.

And to clarify: "We have made good progress and I feel comfortable in the car now.It will be necessary to be at the top level right now.We can not afford to waste time from the beginning.If the weather stays dry we will have a small advantage that will have to be exploited to the full.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_thierry-neuville-apres-le-shakewown-il-va-falloir-etre-au-haut-niveau-des-le-debut?id=10073489



"The advantage I have over my two competitors (Neuville and Tanak, ed), is that I have already lived situations a little similar.I already have some titles in the pocket, I have So I do not want to lose and I want to add a 6th title, it's a weekend where there's pressure but it's still I've managed it pretty well for the whole of my career, it affects us all, it's part of the game, and it usually boosts me, "he added.

"The key to this Rally is that it will be the start of the race, it will have to be well placed on Friday night to have a good position on the Saturday when there is a lot of pollution on the roads, there is also the weather that can come in. There is a chance of showers tonight, and when you leave, you hope they will be there, but if it rains really hard, it can be tricky here with big changes. adhesions difficult to anticipate, "he noted.

Between Ogier, Neuville and Tanak, it will be tight. Anyway, despite the rivalry, there is a real respect between the three pilots.

"We all respect each other now, once we put the helmet on the head, we think of nothing more than being faster than its competitors." Who deserves the title? It's not up to me to answer this question: if we are all three in this position, it's never stolen, we had to go get the points Thierry and I made a few small mistakes season that cost us more or less at a given time.The most unfortunate of the season so far, it's Tanak for me.He did not make big mistakes in driving, "he concluded .

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_sebastien-ogier-je-suis-impatient-d-en-decoudre-et-content-d-etre-dans-cette-situation?id=10073508&fbclid=IwAR3o9UTt4Su9XKCiAAV7-BDwOMXIZ9xGrTaO5G0GYqsyl3g41sNtkUZ8Epg

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 15:21
Weather radar seems to show rain...
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/national_radar_sat.loop.shtml

able1
15th November 2018, 15:53
Neuville got engine upgrade for Rally Australia . I wonder is Hyundai faster than Ford ?

racerx1979
15th November 2018, 16:25
Also the 10% increase was in regards to the power-band shift. More usable torque and hp throughout the power-band.

Allez Andruet
15th November 2018, 17:47
Oh boy, few hours and then we go... or the guys in Australia do that, but anyway, what an absolute killer we have here on our hands.

I'd still put my money on Ogier. Let alone his record in Australia is pretty impressive, but even more importantly, out of those three it's him - and so far only him - who knows how to win championships. And Tänak will win the rally, but that everyone knew already ofcourse.

Luijbregts
15th November 2018, 17:57
Yes. Molly is the spouse of Anders!

Barreis
15th November 2018, 18:12
Ogier shakedown onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUGQ82Tf30c

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 18:33
Tänak shake onboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFLIq8bMDf0

shakedown press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CqVomU3n3Y

spiderem
15th November 2018, 18:54
only few hours!!! exciting. I feel for you guys back in Europe with the time difference, here in Canada turns out to be perfect. First stage today will be at 1pm, so i can enjoy the full rally :) my work output will be low, but this is more important.

Lead
15th November 2018, 18:59
Time difference is crazy, but you just cant miss the fight of the century... This will be epic.

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 18:59
Coffs Harbour weather update: no rain in the city, but looks ominous out near the stages... #RallyAustralia

Päss1928
15th November 2018, 19:10
Time difference is crazy, but you just cant miss the fight of the century... This will be epic.

Yes you can. If Tänak was in the fight then I couldn't. Been following every rally this season but the AU timezone sucks too bad for europe.

Tauri_J
15th November 2018, 19:13
Dont really care about time difference

if you love this sport, time makes no difference

dimviii
15th November 2018, 19:14
@MiikaWuorela
4 minutes ago

It is 6.37 on Friday morning and it starts to rain slowly. Dark clouds over HQ city Coffs Harbour. Anyway, may this thriller begin now!


Colin Clark

Good morning rally friends from Woolgoolga, just a few kms from the Sherwood Forest where today’s opening stage runs. A little dampness around and a few showers up the coast. No proper rain yet!

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 19:19
Rain on the windscreen �� - not sure it’ll last #RallyAustralia

GravelBen
15th November 2018, 19:24
Its about the only time of the year I get to follow WRC during the daytime!

racerx1979
15th November 2018, 19:31
Following while in Chile for business. Let's just say a lot of meetings and projects have been put on hold until tomorrow morning.

SubaruNorway
15th November 2018, 19:34
Slept for 2-3 hours after work so hopefully stay up all night and then straight to work after the last stage of the day :)

rallye-vid
15th November 2018, 19:42
I've got an extra day vacation ;)

Grutz
15th November 2018, 19:44
I've got a feeling this is going to be the closest rally for a long time between ALL competitors in the WRC, not just 3 title contenders! And as far as the title contenders go a I think unfortunately it will probably be decided by the end of day 1!

dimviii
15th November 2018, 19:47
Michelin Motorsport
11 minutes ago

It"s raining in coffs harbour, stages are damp

racerx1979
15th November 2018, 19:50
Rain is actually better for Tanaks hopes... More chances of spins and mistakes by Ogier and Nueville.

dimviii
15th November 2018, 19:53
RallySport Magazine
57 seconds ago

It’s well and truly wet on the way to SS2 #RallyAustralia

mknight
15th November 2018, 19:56
Wonder what's Evans (tracker) doing there? Gone to the beach in rain?

EDIT: And it go reset to service park. Prbly on from the photoshoot and the system kept it in last position.

Rallyper
15th November 2018, 20:20
Good late night, ladies and gentlemen! Let the show begin!

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 20:25
Damp roads gives more even conditions re start positions. A fair battle it would seem.

dimviii
15th November 2018, 20:27
Michelin Motorsport

#Tyre info, Day 1 morning loop:

All Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force M6

racerx1979
15th November 2018, 20:28
My source on the stages says its damp and some of the stages damp means slippery. It will be a good one for sure

AnttiL
15th November 2018, 20:28
My source on the stages says its damp and some of the stages damp means slippery. It will be a good one for sure

And less cleaning for Ogier.

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 20:32
Malcolm sayin the stages are all dry

KKS
15th November 2018, 20:34
Got good supper and now with a big cup of tea ready for rally action. Hope that I can do all night long to watch all action of WRC title decider

T16
15th November 2018, 20:37
Ogier looks like he’s absolutely flying!
Can’t see anyone beating this time.

Essaj
15th November 2018, 20:37
It's on! This event will be one for the history books!

steve.mandzij
15th November 2018, 20:41
Rain is actually better for Tanaks hopes... More chances of spins and mistakes by Ogier and Nueville.And Tanak is essentially a God on the wet stuff (tarmac, at least)

krissucool
15th November 2018, 20:41
All live working for you guys?

T16
15th November 2018, 20:42
All live working for you guys?
Ok here

er88
15th November 2018, 20:42
Got good supper and now with a big cup of tea ready for rally action

Cup of tea?!?!

Get the beers out!!!

Rallyper
15th November 2018, 20:42
All live working for you guys?

Yessss!!

Rallyper
15th November 2018, 20:43
Cup of tea?!?!

Get the beers out!!!

Why not a good whisky?

KKS
15th November 2018, 20:43
Cup of tea?!?!

Get the beers out!!!
with beer at this long night I could do only 2-3 stages and fall in sleep :D

deephouse
15th November 2018, 20:44
Ogier looks like he’s absolutely flying!
Can’t see anyone beating this time.

wrong

steve.mandzij
15th November 2018, 20:44
Why not a good whisky?Take a shot every time Neuvile pronounces his R's as W's

T16
15th November 2018, 20:45
wrong
Yeah... might have got a little bit excited there!

Rallyper
15th November 2018, 20:45
Take a shot every time Neuvile pronounces his R's as W's

That should be small ones then...

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 20:47
it will get quicker with every car, quite optimistic to say Ogier will be fastest

dimviii
15th November 2018, 20:47
Lappi faster from Tanak

er88
15th November 2018, 20:47
Why not a good whisky?Either would do me ;)

stefanvv
15th November 2018, 20:50
Why not a good whisky?

I feel celebration is coming...

Allez Andruet
15th November 2018, 20:51
Come on Lappi, just for once could you please show that you're happy with your performance!?!

er88
15th November 2018, 20:51
Faster every can atm. Expecting the likes of Mikkelsen/ Evans/ Paddon/ Ostberg/ Suninen etc to try and take advantage.

KKS
15th November 2018, 20:56
rain starts to effect. time start to drop every car

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 21:02
Breen hit a kangaroo

AL14
15th November 2018, 21:04
Come on Lappi, just for once could you please show that you're happy with your performance!?!

Yeeah well... I could do that, yeaaah :touch hairs:, well it was good... let's see in the next one maybe it changes...

krissucool
15th November 2018, 21:04
Breen hit a kangaroo

Nooo! Poor Skippy :(

AL14
15th November 2018, 21:05
There is no need to apologize that much for a word we all use every day.

Eric
15th November 2018, 21:06
Paddon. Come on. This can be your weekend

stefanvv
15th November 2018, 21:06
Breen hit a kangaroo

Not as good as Ogier avoiding animals.

AL14
15th November 2018, 21:07
Paddon. Come on. This can be your weekend

There are 3 drivers giving everything to win the championship I don't think this is the best weekend to show someting for him

EstWRC
15th November 2018, 21:07
Ostberg fastest in split

Rallyper
15th November 2018, 21:08
Ostberg looking good.

Fast Eddie WRC
15th November 2018, 21:08
Breen
💬 “I hit a kangaroo, the poor lad, skippy is gone, sorry!” 🦘 #RIPSkippy #RallyAustralia #WRC