M Schumacher is coming

[Nitrodaze]

Mick Schumacher clinched the F3 title at Hockenhiem this weekend. This is the title that opened the door of F1 to Max Verstapenn.


What next for the young Schumacher? He may probably head to F2, whatever he does, there is some certainty that we shall be seeing this young man in F1 in the near future. The real question is, would he wearing Red or silver race suit. The future of F1 just got brighter with the prospect of seeing the Schumacher name on the F1 grid in the near future.

[Zico]

Sounds so 'clickbaity' I almost thought I was on PlanetF1 when I read this thread title.

I'm more interested in finding out how Michael actually is tbh.. :(

[The Black Knight]

Sounds so 'clickbaity' I almost thought I was on PlanetF1 when I read this thread title.

I'm more interested in finding out how Michael actually is tbh.. :(

Me too, in all honestly. He gave me so much joy in my childhood. I just want the great man to get better and come back to us as he once was. Breaks my heart what has happened to him.

Mick Schumacher on the grid would be nice, but only if he deserves it. You need to earn your way into F1 regardless of whom your father is, but it would be nice if he got there.

The Schumacher name is super marketable so that will help him get a drive. But I’d hate to see him arrive in F1 and fail because he got the drive too early and wasn’t ready. That’s why he needs to earn his place and then he will be ready.

[truefan72]

Mick Schumacher clinched the F3 title at Hockenhiem this weekend. This is the title that opened the door of F1 to Max Verstapenn.


What next for the young Schumacher? He may probably head to F2, whatever he does, there is some certainty that we shall be seeing this young man in F1 in the near future. The real question is, would he wearing Red or silver race suit. The future of F1 just got brighter with the prospect of seeing the Schumacher name on the F1 grid in the near future.

From what I understand, there have been quiet complaints and whispers up and down that Euro F3 paddock about exactly what is/was going on with Mick Shumachers car that miraculously became the fastest car on the grid by miles midway through the season. Before that, his car and performances were at best average and his results reflected that. In all my years of watching motor racing, no driver typically is average (or slightly below) for a year and a half then suddenly is lights out fast, blowing away his competition and his teammates, who had previously beaten him soundly. Even if he had an average car, his quality would shine through But the Prema Powerteam car is one of the best in F3 and his teammates were all doing extremely well with him lagging behind severely in 4th, then all of a sudden he becomes unstoppable. Ridiculous.

you can see this uncanny trajectory if you scroll down to the drivers championship on this wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIA_Formula_3_European_Championship

And he finished 12 in the series in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_FIA_Formula_3_European_Championship
with all 3 of his teammates that year blowing him away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prema_Powerteam

So...no, I don't rate him that highly and suspect things are going on behind the scenes to artificially inflate his quality, and particular car.

[journeyman racer]

It's interesting reading that when you notice truefan's sig!

That's an interesting turn of form? It wouldn't surprise me there's something dodgy about Mick's cars. If it's the case, one day, he'll be exposed, so it might not do him well in the long run.

Like father, like son. Winning in dodgy cars.

[Jag_Warrior]

From what I understand, there have been quiet complaints and whispers up and down that Euro F3 paddock about exactly what is/was going on with Mick Shumachers car that miraculously became the fastest car on the grid by miles midway through the season. Before that, his car and performances were at best average and his results reflected that. In all my years of watching motor racing, no driver typically is average (or slightly below) for a year and a half then suddenly is lights out fast, blowing away his competition and his teammates, who had previously beaten him soundly. Even if he had an average car, his quality would shine through But the Prema Powerteam car is one of the best in F3 and his teammates were all doing extremely well with him lagging behind severely in 4th, then all of a sudden he becomes unstoppable. Ridiculous.

you can see this uncanny trajectory if you scroll down to the drivers championship on this wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIA_Formula_3_European_Championship

And he finished 12 in the series in 2017: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_FIA_Formula_3_European_Championship
with all 3 of his teammates that year blowing him away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prema_Powerteam

So...no, I don't rate him that highly and suspect things are going on behind the scenes to artificially inflate his quality, and particular car.


The more people dig below the surface, the more troubling his late season results seem. I don't know. I would hope that what's suspected isn't the case. I would hope that he wouldn't knowingly participate in any sort of scheming, and risk damaging his family name and heritage. But who knows? It just seems awfully odd how a driver could find that much form against (once) stronger competitors.

[gm99]

I would hope that he wouldn't knowingly participate in any sort of scheming, and risk damaging his family name and heritage.

Why damage it? He would fully live up to it...

[The Black Knight]

I think there is no evidence either way that Mick Schumacher is cheating. It may be that he suddenly realised how to drive a F3 car faster. Sometimes the penny drops for drivers out of nowhere.

Anything here is just conjecture and speculation which can also be reputationally damaging and he may very well be completely innocent.

[N4D13]

TBK is spot on here.

I don't think he's a cheat, but even if he is, which is very unlikely, we'll find out anyway when he reaches higher series. For the time being, I'd very much rather be cautious and not lambast anyone without a hint of evidence.

[journeyman racer]

Me too, in all honestly. He (Schumacher) gave me so much joy in my childhood.


Dear God! TBK was a Schumacher fan! This explains a lot.

It's kind of funny though. For 4 years TBK has held a grudge over Rosberg for supposedly cheating, yet he was a fan of Schumacher???

Schumacher is the second biggest piece of **** that's been in F1 since I've followed it (A close second to Briatore).

To like Schumacher and Hamilton tells me that you must have a superficial interest in motorsport.

[Nitrodaze]

Dear God! TBK was a Schumacher fan! This explains a lot.

It's kind of funny though. For 4 years TBK has held a grudge over Rosberg for supposedly cheating, yet he was a fan of Schumacher???

Schumacher is the second biggest piece of **** that's been in F1 since I've followed it (A close second to Briatore).

To like Schumacher and Hamilton tells me that you must have a superficial interest in motorsport.

Maybe we should not take the sins of the father out on the son. He has a bright future ahead of him. It would be great if he can emulate his father's talent. As far as Hamilton goes, l cannot see what your reason is for disliking Hamilton other than he is successfull at what he does and he is not Austrailian obviously.

[journeyman racer]

I just want to make it clear that I don't like Mark Webber. Nationality has nothing to do with it. As far as Hamilton is concerned? He attracts superficial interest. You can respcect his performances. otherwise his career is a product of "F1 corporatisation" which may need an essay that I can't be bothered writing to explain. Him, Vettel and Verstappen are the same **** in this regard.


The fandom Hamilton and Verstappen particularly generate reminds me of not only Schumacher snr, but also the dark days of the early 2000s MotoGP, when all the Rossi idiots came out of the woodwork and spoilt motorbike racing.

[Nitrodaze]

I just want to make it clear that I don't like Mark Webber. Nationality has nothing to do with it. As far as Hamilton is concerned? He attracts superficial interest. You can respcect his performances. otherwise his career is a product of "F1 corporatisation" which may need an essay that I can't be bothered writing to explain. Him, Vettel and Verstappen are the same **** in this regard.


The fandom Hamilton and Verstappen particularly generate reminds me of not only Schumacher snr, but also the dark days of the early 2000s MotoGP, when all the Rossi idiots came out of the woodwork and spoilt motorbike racing.

Fair comment, we can't like everyone we know l suppose. But l admire the man for his tenacity and successes. I was a Webber fan until he wanted the Redbull team to hand him a championship on a platter. I admire Michael Schumacher for his determination and incredible successes but l am not a fan of his as he won his championships on the back of his team mates. At least Hamilton was happy to beat his teammates on his way top winning his championship.

[The Black Knight]

Mick Schumacher tested with Ferrari today and set a 1:29.976 on the slowest C5 tire. To say the least, that's mighty impressive on his first outing and he wouldn't be far off pole on the C3 tire which was the fastest for this weekend.

[Nitrodaze]

The reigning F3 champion Mick Schumacher notched up his first F2 win at the Hungaroring. Under pressure from start to finish by two more experirnced F2 racers, he managed to ring the car home to his first win. All the signs says there ios more to come from the young Schumacher.

[journeyman racer]

I've just been aware that F2 have a top 8 reverse grid for their second race. And this is what little Schu took advantage of in Hungary. He's average and shouldn't be thought of as a genuine prospect for a serious F1 seat.

[Nitrodaze]

I've just been aware that F2 have a top 8 reverse grid for their second race. And this is what little Schu took advantage of in Hungary. He's average and shouldn't be thought of as a genuine prospect for a serious F1 seat.

True, it is early days for the young shumi. But most that has won an F2 race this season, has done so by taking advantage of the reverse order grid. The interesting thing about Mick's win was that he was able to bring it home with two very experienced F2 race winners breathing down his neck. He could not afford a single mistake and he didn't. That was what the fuss was really about

[gm99]

Still, he isn't even inside the top ten in a series that has been won by rookies (Leclerc and Russell) in the past two years.

[The Black Knight]

Still, he isn't even inside the top ten in a series that has been won by rookies (Leclerc and Russell) in the past two years.

Yeah, but we cannot ignore that he showed very impressive pace in the Bahrain test earlier this year as well. He’s an unknown quantity but given his relative lack of race experience he has done pretty well so far. I think he needs another year or two at least before F1 honestly. What impressed me most about his F2 victory was not his pace but his ability to make the gap at the important parts of the circuit to stay ahead. He managed it well and didn’t crack once. To judge his overall pace and ability thus far is way too early. He needs time to mature and gain experience. Most other drivers on the F2 grid have much more experience than him.

[Flyin18T]

Yeah, but we cannot ignore that he showed very impressive pace in the Bahrain test earlier this year as well. He’s an unknown quantity but given his relative lack of race experience he has done pretty well so far. I think he needs another year or two at least before F1 honestly. What impressed me most about his F2 victory was not his pace but his ability to make the gap at the important parts of the circuit to stay ahead. He managed it well and didn’t crack once. To judge his overall pace and ability thus far is way too early. He needs time to mature and gain experience. Most other drivers on the F2 grid have much more experience than him.

Well stated. I agree that things will become much clearer for him within the next two seasons. Side note... how come there isn't a separate F2 or F3 forum?