Rally Sweden 14-17 FEB 2019

[ruesluporp]

Rally Sweden 2019 will most likely run on February 14th-17th. WRC Promoter has this week presented the date to the FIA for approval.

[Rallyper]

Hope they try some new stages next year.

[Zeakiwi]

Will Rally Sweden be run as a gravel rally in 2019?

[pantealex]

Will Rally Sweden be run as a gravel rally in 2019?

No, winter weather usually ends in march.

[DocMS]

Any word on when the Fia are confirming dates for next year?

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[Rally Hokkaido]

Any word on when the Fia are confirming dates for next year?

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The WRC Commission will announce this month, then World Motor Sport Council will ratify at following meeting (early November?).

[DocMS]

Thanks

[dnb]

The meeting was in late October

[ruesluporp]

The meeting was in late October

The proposed date (14-17 February) is already considered as THE final date there. A lot of bookings have been made, flights have been booked, a lot of cars have been rented: don't wait!

I found a cottage in Torsby not far from the service park, there were plenty of seats left on the plane: never been so easy...

[DocMS]

The proposed date (14-17 February) is already considered as THE final date there. A lot of bookings have been made, flights have been booked, a lot of cars have been rented: don't wait!

I found a cottage in Torsby not far from the service park, there were plenty of seats left on the plane: never been so easy...So it's safe to say dates won't be changed at this stage? We have Accomadation booked which can be changed but was bit hesitant on flights incase would be date change

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[ruesluporp]

So it's safe to say dates won't be changed at this stage? We have Accomadation booked which can be changed but was bit hesitant on flights incase would be date change

I told you!

[AnttiL]

https://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/documents/

Route published. Only one stage changed from last year, Rämmen replacing Torntorp

[Lead]

Thats too sad. There is plenty of roads to choose from in that region and they go with almost same roads again and again.

[tommeke_B]

Anyone have tips for accommodation? The places I booked last years seem to be booked already...

[SubaruNorway]

Did Rämmen ever run this way? Must be before 08 if so

[ruesluporp]

Anyone have tips for accommodation? The places I booked last years seem to be booked already...

Try "Our Little Farm" in Yggenäs, we booked it 2 times in the past, Marcia, the dutch owner, is cool.

Or not far from Colin's Crest: https://fr.belvilla.be/location/suede/rada-6-personnes-SE-68393-01?arrival_date=2019-02-13&nights=4&pax=3&uad=1&uls=1

[satnav]

The regs for Rally Sweden were released yesterday , interesting that the time of the shakedown is changed to 09.00

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/supplementary-regulations-2019eng-1.pdf

[pantealex]

Entries are open!

https://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/entries-wrc/
1st one is with Mitsu Mirage NAT4
Historic one has about 10 entries

[tommeke_B]

Historic one has 16 entries. 10 per page. ;)

[pantealex]

Historic one has 16 entries. 10 per page. ;)

My option was 100 per page and didn´t count... (17 now)

I´m going there to spectate.

[Myrvold]

My option was 100 per page and didn´t count... (17 now)

I´m going there to spectate.

30 now(!) The potential top entries needs to get going!

[AnttiL]

Johan Kristoffersson to do the rally (in a Polo R5?)

https://www.rallit.fi/manageri-paljasti-miksi-ruotsalaistahti-jatti-skodan-he-ajattelevat-nyt-enemman-kallea/

[Rallyper]

Johan Kristoffersson to do the rally (in a Polo R5?)

https://www.rallit.fi/manageri-paljasti-miksi-ruotsalaistahti-jatti-skodan-he-ajattelevat-nyt-enemman-kallea/

And we knew also much of the thoughts of Pontus future in the article.

[AnttiL]

And we knew also much of the thoughts of Pontus future in the article.

"Pontus is working hard for a few WRC races and Sweden is target number one. However, it's too early to say anything but there are some chances"

[ruesluporp]

There are not late this time!
Received this today.

https://zupimages.net/up/18/51/g15g.jpg (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=18/51/g15g.jpg)

[df93]

My hat and pass arrived today. Very much looking forward to it.

What are the snow conditions like on the stages?

Expected entries?
Toyota: Tanak, JML, Meeke.
Hyundai: Neuville, Mikkelsen, Loeb.
Citroen: Ogier, Lappi.
MSport: Suninen.

Evans and Tidemand also rumoured for M-Sport driver.

Hopefully a strong WRC2 class also.

[rp]

Expected entries?


Marcus & Timo, Yaris WRC

Katsuta, Fiesta R5
Bergkvist, Fiesta R5
Jansson, Fiesta R5

Veiby, Polo GTI R5
Lindholm, Polo GTI R5
Stugemo, Polo GTI R5
Kristoffersson, Polo GTI R5

Rovanperä, Fabia R5
Pietarinen, Fabia R5
Gryazin, Fabia R5
Flodin, Fabia R5

Rådström, Fiesta R2
Torn, Fiesta R2
Furuseth, Fiesta R2
Sesks, Fiesta R2
Poom, Fiesta R2
Salvidar, Fiesta R2

[Tarmop]

If i recall correctly, then P. Solberg promised to have a go in his recently bought Polo R5 and for sure his brother wants to have a go with something. Lukyanuk was also thought to be practising for Sweden in Rally Aluksne.

[Mirek]

Lukyanuk also recently tested C3 R5 of Saintéloc so who knows what he's going to do.

[Artturi]

Hi, my name is Arturo, this is my first time planning to watch some stages of rally Sweden. Some friends and me will go from Karlstad to look for some spot to sit and see the rally, do any of you know if it's difficult to sneak into some random part of the stage and just take a sit without being spotted? Maybe is easier than I think but I want know about people that have been there before.

[ruesluporp]

Hi, my name is Arturo, this is my first time planning to watch some stages of rally Sweden. Some friends and me will go from Karlstad to look for some spot to sit and see the rally, do any of you know if it's difficult to sneak into some random part of the stage and just take a sit without being spotted? Maybe is easier than I think but I want know about people that have been there before.

Stay away from the side of the road when the safety cars (especially Michèle Mouton's car) are on the special stage.

[SubaruNorway]

Stay away from the side of the road when the safety cars (especially Michèle Mouton's car) are on the special stage.

Especially when she arrives without a siren at 100kph+, scared the shit out of me on Röjden last year haha

[ruesluporp]

Hi, my name is Arturo, this is my first time planning to watch some stages of rally Sweden. Some friends and me will go from Karlstad to look for some spot to sit and see the rally, do any of you know if it's difficult to sneak into some random part of the stage and just take a sit without being spotted? Maybe is easier than I think but I want know about people that have been there before.

If you are not a WRC+ user, take a look at these onboard videos, it gives an idea on where people are staying in special stages:

- SSS1-SSS15 Karlstad (Latvala 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/umzyplgotwo96a1ndexw91ft3zo0odp9
- SS2-SS5 Hof-Finnskog (Tanak 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/ayf1l49kkemxph21vr37y8g33bntyod0
- SS3-SS6 Svullrya (Breen 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/fnbztu9rr9wl00adh1b7g53v52yypfhl
- SS4-SS7 Rojden (Ostberg 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/7g6gftsmr53jzbmzli3geou2p3jdsvgf
- SS8-SS19 Torsby (Paddon 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/xo0984a6grjr2dbkrzbglaqrg0tmdh37
- SS10-SS13 Hagfors (Tanak 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/dqate9i7a393gdqomhugfoj6pdts6ulw
- SS11-SS14 Vargasen (Neuville 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/x2viiq6xafx0akoz68w7p8w7vu8x74cs
- SS16 Torsby Sprint (Neuville 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/4ww3tru4ci2p5svnh8bdwpfhindoenmm
- SS17-SS18 Likenas (Ogier 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/6ds8nxono67ym5713yxlrmixahk3j3rr

[Myrvold]

Hi, my name is Arturo, this is my first time planning to watch some stages of rally Sweden. Some friends and me will go from Karlstad to look for some spot to sit and see the rally, do any of you know if it's difficult to sneak into some random part of the stage and just take a sit without being spotted? Maybe is easier than I think but I want know about people that have been there before.

It's both hard and easy to be fair.
There are many parts of the stages without marshalls (I assume you want to get in for free, and be able to stand where you wish). However, with a winter like the one last year, it takes time and energy to get there. The roads to the stages that are prepped will be crowded. So you'd need to find an unprepped road, which leads to the risk of getting stuck. Or walk long distances in deep snow.
Either that or get on the stage the day before, park up in any kind of small road and then walk on the stage.

[Rallyper]

Hi, my name is Arturo, this is my first time planning to watch some stages of rally Sweden. Some friends and me will go from Karlstad to look for some spot to sit and see the rally, do any of you know if it's difficult to sneak into some random part of the stage and just take a sit without being spotted? Maybe is easier than I think but I want know about people that have been there before.

Hi Arturo,

If you spent money to come to Rally Sweden you also must be able to afford Rally pass. So you don´t have to try to sneak in all the time. Should say you´ll fail in the end.
Maybe at Rally Finland in the summer it´s possible, but in Sweden in winther no way.

[cali]

Hi Arturo,

If you spent money to come to Rally Sweden you also must be able to afford Rally pass. So you don´t have to try to sneak in all the time. Should say you´ll fail in the end.
Maybe at Rally Finland in the summer it´s possible, but in Sweden in winther no way.Per, where did he mentioned that he did not want to pay? To me it looks like he does not want to spectate in designated crowded places. Which is a whole different story. I could be wrong though...

[tommeke_B]

It's quite simple. Buy a rally pass, see which access roads are possible, and get to the stage. Make sure you arrive in time, as during the last 30 minutes before the stage starts you are not allowed to be on the road anymore. Also the access roads are often jammed, a lot of people are coming to watch the event. It's better to be 1,5 hour early than 10 minutes late... Always listen to the stewards, in Sweden they are very reasonable. If they say something is not OK for them, there's a reason for it. Also when crossing the road during a stage, remember that cars start every minute or two, but one can be slower than another or can make a mistake. So there's absolutely no guarantee that you have a full minute after a car passed. Try to listen to what's coming, but remember that the sound of the cars is more quiet than in other events, especially with fresh snow. Also the later R5 cars (especially Fabia) are very quiet which makes them a bit more dangerous...

And last but not least, NEVER sit down during a rally. When a rally car goes off at 145kph, it means 40 meters per second. There's already very very little time to react, but if you sit down it's completely impossible to make a reaction.

[Rallyper]

Per, where did he mentioned that he did not want to pay? To me it looks like he does not want to spectate in designated crowded places. Which is a whole different story. I could be wrong though...

Well, using the word "sneak" means in my world he´s too stingy to pay for being on a stage.

[DocMS]

Heading back this year again. Have been planning on going to Hof-Finnskog stage on Friday morning and get 2 stages here and hopefully get back to torsby for the evening stage. I've never been to Hof-Finnskog stage before and I know with weather and traffic I can't go by Google maps for times. Anyone been this route before know if its possible in the time scheduled?

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[ruesluporp]

Heading back this year again. Have been planning on going to Hof-Finnskog stage on Friday morning and get 2 stages here and hopefully get back to torsby for the evening stage. I've never been to Hof-Finnskog stage before and I know with weather and traffic I can't go by Google maps for times. Anyone been this route before know if its possible in the time scheduled?

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You can do it if you stay to see only the 20 first cars. Distances are not so long from Torsby.

[polomayu]

Hi, anyone knows at what time do they close the stages?
I'm asking it for trying to spectate a zone with no access roads, the middle of the likkenas stage. In the onboards i can see people spectating there but there is no access road clase to that place.
Thanks

[satnav]

Hi, anyone knows at what time do they close the stages?
I'm asking it for trying to spectate a zone with no access roads, the middle of the likkenas stage. In the onboards i can see people spectating there but there is no access road clase to that place.
Thanks

Last year all stages were closed at 16.00 on the previous day , there is usually a road closed schedule in Rally Guide 2 which is due to be on the website on the 17th January.

[Sulland]

Still not much winter in the Rally area.
Lets hope for a colder January, so we get 20 cm frosen ground, and then half a meter snow.

snowdepth updated daily; https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup

[masa90]

Hi everyone! Did not really know to which topic to write, so sorry if it came to wrong place. I am thinking of coming to spectate rally sweden, but car is not an option for me sadly. Is there any chance to take public transport to stages or any rallybus or tours? Stages either in norway or sweden would be ok, not sure if i have time for full rally now. Thanks in advance !!!

[Rallyper]

Hi everyone! Did not really know to which topic to write, so sorry if it came to wrong place. I am thinking of coming to spectate rally sweden, but car is not an option for me sadly. Is there any chance to take public transport to stages or any rallybus or tours? Stages either in norway or sweden would be ok, not sure if i have time for full rally now. Thanks in advance !!!

Try Swdish Rallytravels.com (Manager Per Carlsson, former WRC co-driver)). http://rallytravels.wh4.work/site/se/programme/rally-sweden/ Didn´t find english version, but give Per a call and he´ll tell you all.

I do believe British company Rallytravel also will join RS.

[DocMS]

On the rally Sweden website this is advertised


https://rallysweden.com/en/product-category/rallybus/

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[DocMS]

Hi everyone! Did not really know to which topic to write, so sorry if it came to wrong place. I am thinking of coming to spectate rally sweden, but car is not an option for me sadly. Is there any chance to take public transport to stages or any rallybus or tours? Stages either in norway or sweden would be ok, not sure if i have time for full rally now. Thanks in advance !!!On the rally Sweden website this is advertised

https://rallysweden.com/en/product-category/rallybus/

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[DocMS]

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[masa90]

Thanks. Being finnish i understand basic swedish, thanks a lot! Somehow i did not find it directly on the page 😄

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dv-e82JXgAEtCvO?format=jpg&name=medium

[tomhlord]

Hello there,

We shall be visiting Rally Sweden for the first time this season - a nice Christmas present was two weekend tickets.

We are flying into Stockholm on Wednesday, hiring a car and plan to see Shakedown, the Norway stages and Sat/Sun undecided yet.

Does anyone have any tips for accommodation please? Where is a good place to stay?

Secondly, how is driving in the snowy conditions, please? Being from Britain, where we get a bit of snow one day of the year and the whole country goes into a panic, I'm a rookie in this regard.

Any help would be much appreciated!

[tommeke_B]

For accommodation you are quite late, the best locations will be booked already long ago. Best options would be to look on the website of Rally Sweden > accommodation, or maybe try to send an e-mail to Hagfors Turist Information. Snow driving is no problem in Sweden, the winter tyres are completely different and far better than what you find in UK/Belgium/France etc. Everyone's driving nearly as fast as in summer I think. Also there's not as much traffic on the road as in the UK, so apart from what the rally could cause, you shouldn't expect any traffic jams. Just be careful with respecting speed limits, and with alcohol (zero tolerance). They do a lot of checks on both, and penalties are huge, especially in Norway.

[tommeke_B]

Rauno Aaltonen is participating in the historic rally, with a Mini. At the time of the rally he will be 81 years old. Could he be the oldest participant in a rally ever? :D

[Allez Andruet]

Rauno Aaltonen is participating in the historic rally, with a Mini. At the time of the rally he will be 81 years old. Could he be the oldest participant in a rally ever? :D

Could very well be, atleast as a driver. And whether he's the oldest or not, it's still a tremendous achievement. Hats off to the Rally Professor.

[AnttiL]

Could very well be, atleast as a driver. And whether he's the oldest or not, it's still a tremendous achievement. Hats off to the Rally Professor.

Hats off. Last year he commented something like it's easy to do these "sprint rallies" of today

[tomhlord]

For accommodation you are quite late, the best locations will be booked already long ago. Best options would be to look on the website of Rally Sweden > accommodation, or maybe try to send an e-mail to Hagfors Turist Information. Snow driving is no problem in Sweden, the winter tyres are completely different and far better than what you find in UK/Belgium/France etc. Everyone's driving nearly as fast as in summer I think. Also there's not as much traffic on the road as in the UK, so apart from what the rally could cause, you shouldn't expect any traffic jams. Just be careful with respecting speed limits, and with alcohol (zero tolerance). They do a lot of checks on both, and penalties are huge, especially in Norway.

Thank you very much, a great help. Sounds like we need to book somewhere to stay very soon!

[skarderud]

Thank you very much, a great help. Sounds like we need to book somewhere to stay very soon!And, your braking distance can be twice as long as on normal snow condition, keep good distance to the car in front!

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[Neil Shanks]

Thank you very much, a great help. Sounds like we need to book somewhere to stay very soon!

I have an Airbnb house in Hagfors booked which I can’t use anymore - send me a pm if you are interested before I cancel it

[masa90]

Would you guys rather fly to Arlanda Stockholm or Gardemoen Oslo? Distance doesnt seem too different from either.

[Neil Shanks]

Very similar in terms of time to travel from both if you are going to Karlstad. If going to Torsby then Oslo is closer. One advantage of Arlanda is the hire car will likely have studs, where the hire cars in Norway are only winter tyres

[masa90]

Ok. I guess where i can get better suiting flights then will decide.

[Tarmop]

And, your braking distance can be twice as long as on normal snow condition, keep good distance to the car in front!

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And don`t be afraid of the obvious, you see snow , it offers quite a lot of grip...also visible ice, expect the unexpected aka black ice.

[logic]

Fly into Karlstad or Oslo and driver over. It is abot a 4 hr drive from oslo to Karlstad. But if you stay in Kingsvinger or torsby it is about a 2 hr drive.

[masa90]

I will be staying in Karlstad. Just booked my stay in a hotel.

[Rallyper]

And don`t be afraid of the obvious, you see snow , it offers quite a lot of grip...also visible ice, expect the unexpected aka black ice.

Black ice under a thin layer of snow is the most unpredictipal...

[DocMS]

Would you guys rather fly to Arlanda Stockholm or Gardemoen Oslo? Distance doesnt seem too different from either.We have always used arlanda this last few years as we found car hire was much cheaper from here than Oslo. Again we have flight booked to Arlanda this year again


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[pantealex]

I´m going with pro pro group minibus and they sended hourly program to me:

Thu SS1 Karlstad
Fri SS3 Svullray , service Torsby (TGR guest), SS7 Röjden
Sat SS10 Hagfors, SS12 Torntorp, SS14 Värgosen
Sun SS17 Likenäs, SS19 Torsby

so 8 different stages, never spectating same stage twice.
staying in Munkeberg
my 6th time in Rally Sweden but 1st time without own plan.

[Rallyper]

We have always used arlanda this last few years as we found car hire was much cheaper from here than Oslo. Again we have flight booked to Arlanda this year again


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Norway generally much more expensive country.

[tommeke_B]

Nice program PanteAlex. Only SS Torntorp will be very boring, as they don't drive there this year :D

[Micke_VOC]

Would you guys rather fly to Arlanda Stockholm or Gardemoen Oslo? Distance doesnt seem too different from either.

I prefer Oslo, i live in this area and try to always fly out to Europe from Oslo.

Oslo (Gardermoen who is 45 km north of Oslo) , around 200 km to Karlstad ,Arlanda are 300 km to Karlstad
And also if you will go on sunday back you have only 140 km to Oslo Airport from Powerstage, to Arlanda its over 400 km from Torsby if you go on big roads.

[AdvEvo]

Still not much winter in the Rally area.
Lets hope for a colder January, so we get 20 cm frosen ground, and then half a meter snow.

snowdepth updated daily; https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup


Any snow around torsby?

[bigattack]

http://webbkameror.se/webbkameror/wermlandsflyg/index.php

here you go!

[tommeke_B]

https://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Torsby/langtidsvarsel.html It seems like it will start freezing properly at the end of next week.

[Rallyper]

Anyone have incar or reccevideo from Rämmen this years route? Hopefully as late in time as possible...

[tomhlord]

I have an Airbnb house in Hagfors booked which I can’t use anymore - send me a pm if you are interested before I cancel it

Hey, thank you for the offer, all sorted now 😀

[tommeke_B]

Anyone have incar or reccevideo from Rämmen this years route? Hopefully as late in time as possible...

Don't you live close enough to do recce and make a video? :D

[Rallyper]

Don't you live close enough to do recce and make a video? :D

Would really love to. But no, Sweden is big country areawise. Some 350 K from my place... Live about 70 K east of Uppsala.

[DocMS]

Still not much winter in the Rally area.
Lets hope for a colder January, so we get 20 cm frosen ground, and then half a meter snow.

snowdepth updated daily; https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjupWouldn't worry too much just yet. Still over 1 month to the rally. A lot can happen with the weather.

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[Rallyper]

Wouldn't worry too much just yet. Still over 1 month to the rally. A lot can happen with the weather.

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It will happen a lot.

[Rallyper]

Pls! Anyone have password for RS reccevideos? You can PM me. Promise not to send pw further.

[ruesluporp]

For those who are not WRC+ users, here are onboard videos from 2018

- SSS1-SSS15 Karlstad (Latvala 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/umzyplgotwo96a1ndexw91ft3zo0odp9
- SS2-SS5 Hof-Finnskog (Tanak 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/ayf1l49kkemxph21vr37y8g33bntyod0
- SS3-SS6 Svullrya (Breen 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/fnbztu9rr9wl00adh1b7g53v52yypfhl
- SS4-SS7 Rojden (Ostberg 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/7g6gftsmr53jzbmzli3geou2p3jdsvgf
- SS8-SS19 Torsby (Paddon 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/xo0984a6grjr2dbkrzbglaqrg0tmdh37
- SS10-SS13 Hagfors (Tanak 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/dqate9i7a393gdqomhugfoj6pdts6ulw
- SS11-SS14 Vargasen (Neuville 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/x2viiq6xafx0akoz68w7p8w7vu8x74cs
- SS16 Torsby Sprint (Neuville 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/4ww3tru4ci2p5svnh8bdwpfhindoenmm
- SS17-SS18 Likenas (Ogier 2018) - https://app.box.com/s/6ds8nxono67ym5713yxlrmixahk3j3rr

[polomayu]

Hello!
With the standard rally pass are you allowed to spectate the torsby sprint stage?
Thank you

[maailmameister]

Hello!
With the standard rally pass are you allowed to spectate the torsby sprint stage?
Thank you
Yes

[KKS]

- SSS1-SSS15 Karlstad (Latvala 2018) - https://app.box.com/...exw91ft3zo0odp9
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- SS17-SS18 Likenas (Ogier 2018) - https://app.box.com/...yxlrmixahk3j3rr
broken links :/

[AnttiL]

broken links :/

They were already posted earlier in this thread. However, I don't see a reason why a WRC fan would not pay for the price of WRC+ for watching those onboards.

[masa90]

Hotel, rallybus and everything else solved and now ready for a new rally adventure 😄😄 so excited ! Anyone else in here used rallybus before??

[polomayu]

Anyone knows the spectators areas and access roads to the rammen stage?
Thank you

[Rallyper]

Anyone knows the spectators areas and access roads to the rammen stage?
Thank you

Not yet. But I´m interested to. Have ordered Rally Magazine, but will be delivered week 5. Should recommend you to order a magazine to.

[polomayu]

Is there no magazine when you order the rally pass??

[ruesluporp]

broken links :/

Fixed!

[ruesluporp]

Is there no magazine when you order the rally pass??

RallyMagazine is included and will be delivered from week 5.

[ruesluporp]

I don't see a reason why a WRC fan would not pay for the price of WRC+ for watching those onboards.

You would be surprised to know that there are a lot of rally fans who think WRC+ is too expensive! Some french told me that it was crazy to ask for a monthly payment for December (no rally!)...

[AnttiL]

You would be surprised to know that there are a lot of rally fans who think WRC+ is too expensive! Some french told me that it was crazy to ask for a monthly payment for December (no rally!)...

You have 4,5 seasons of old onboards and highlights there available for the time between rallies. Well, at least I couldn't live a month without WRC+ ;) All Live is a different story, of course, it's only usable when there's a rally going on.

[SubaruNorway]

You would be surprised to know that there are a lot of rally fans who think WRC+ is too expensive! Some french told me that it was crazy to ask for a monthly payment for December (no rally!)...

It's cheap, Monster Supercross is 129USD for a season...

[Essaj]

You would be surprised to know that there are a lot of rally fans who think WRC+ is too expensive! Some french told me that it was crazy to ask for a monthly payment for December (no rally!)...

You could play around with monthly payment and you might be able to safe couple of euros that way. Also 9e is nothing compared to what you have to pay to watch almost any other sport, atleast in Finland. Everything is behind pay TV and that's almost always 20€/month and might even require to purchase the package for a year straight.

So WRC+/All Live is not expensive at all.

[polomayu]

Does anyone know in wich car will run ostberg ther rally sweden?

[Essaj]

Does anyone know in wich car will run ostberg ther rally sweden?

yes, but I guess he wants to announce it himself.

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map 2019 @RallySweden made in @dim_ISAM is now online ► http://bit.ly/2QUSy8n

[df93]

Petter Solberg to enter the Historic Rally in this MK2 Escort.

[Tarmop]

Interesting, he was very keen on driving his Polo R5, now that PSRX is taking a break, a factory outing would be even more obvious...

[Rallyper]

Can´t understand why he wants to wear out the old historic car...

He should have been in a R5 Polo instead.

[Steve Boyd]

Maybe he's letting Ostberg drive it!

[Essaj]

He just knows that the car wont be in one piece after 2 rallies in Latvia for Oliver :)

[HarriK]

4 or 5 months ago cottage rented and boat from Turku to Stockholm also paid. We will live near Gunnerud and arrive Thursday and Sunday evening boat back to Finland.
Waiting enthusiastically event!

Rally maganize can't be ordered to Finland or?

[ruesluporp]

Rally maganize can't be ordered to Finland or?

No problem, you can order one, but they will send it on week 5!

[Andre Oliveira]

Till now

https://scontent.fopo2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49791373_2484082174954528_2137885164892585984_n.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fopo2-2.fna&oh=46496b38206ed1e7386c3770e7a0630e&oe=5CC698EC

[pantealex]

4 crews from Printsport, even more is possible...

[DocMS]

Entries very slow. Only 27 in wrc and entry closes on Tuesday

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[tommeke_B]

There could be a lot more entered. I think they're only on the list when everything is processed (all documents, payment etc.).

[doubled1978]

Huttunen in a Skoda....Have I missed something?

[Allez Andruet]

Huttunen in a Skoda....Have I missed something?

I think it's Hyundai that missed the meaning of "driver development program".

[pantealex]

Entries very slow. Only 27 in wrc and entry closes on Tuesday



Monte-Carlo had 0 when entries closed.

Is there any other than Sweden and Finland which are spectator friendly by telling some entries before deadline?

[PLuto]

I am not surprised that organisers are not publishing draft versions of entry lists. There is lot of things and changes which are usually made also after regular deadline, on the other hands there are entered crews who doesnt want to reveal their participation before exact time. Great example should be Dani Sordo and Barum Rally - we had his entry form, but they wanted to reveal by themselves officially. That Dani's interview to spanish newspaper is different story...

[tommeke_B]

Maybe it's a good idea for organizers to add an option to their entry forms, if you do or do not want your entry to be published before the publication of the seeded entry list.

[Hartusvuori]

Strong rumours turning into a fact about five Finnish drivers in WRC2017 cars for Rally Sweden. We can discuss some names, but I think we have to live through this week to know for sure.

One rumour is now out: http://urheiluuutiset.com/yhdeksan-vuoden-kilpailutauko-paattyy-gronholm-toyotalla-ruotsin-mm-ralliin/

[HarriK]

Strong rumour is that Marcus Grönholm enters with Toyota Yaris WRC

[AnttiL]

Strong rumour is that Marcus Grönholm enters with Toyota Yaris WRC

http://urheiluuutiset.com/yhdeksan-vuoden-kilpailutauko-paattyy-gronholm-toyotalla-ruotsin-mm-ralliin/

Confirmed

BUT, there's a rumor of a fifth Finnish driver in a WRC car in Rally Sweden :eek:

[Allez Andruet]

Loeb (Hyundai) vs. Grönholm (Toyota) in 2019. What a time to be alive.

But who the **** could that fifth one be?

[AnttiL]

Thus all world champions (except Burns of course) since 1996 will be present at the event (Tommi team boss, Petter in a historic car)

[Allez Andruet]

The fifth one could have easily been Huttunen, but now that the Hyundai program is scrapped and he's entered with a Fabia it obviously won't be him. Really confusing. In a perfect world it would be a Hänninen/Markkula reunion, but that it won't be either.

[HarriK]

Maybe one of these:
Hänninen with Toyota
Nikara with Toyota
Tuohino... Msport?
Or some amateur with big moneybag...

[Allez Andruet]

Maybe one of these:
Hänninen with Toyota
Nikara with Toyota
Tuohino... Msport?
Or some amateur with big moneybag...

Surely there can't be five Toyotas.

[AnttiL]

Maybe Rovanperä sr? https://twitter.com/KalleRovanpera/status/1074621064074932224

[Tarmop]

i hope one of the Solberg brothers to be in a WRC...
Hirvonen could be that fifth from Finland?

[masa90]

I cant even count to 4. Latvala, Suninen, Bosse and?

[AnttiL]

I cant even count to 4. Latvala, Suninen, Bosse and?

Lappi :rolleyes:

[masa90]

Ah yes, silly me. Luckily the rallyseason starts soon so i can get out of this slump 😄😄😄

[AnttiL]

Bertelli will do the rally with a Fiesta WRC

https://twitter.com/fuckmatie37/status/1084796875113402368

[pantealex]

i hope one of the Solberg brothers to be in a WRC...
Hirvonen could be that fifth from Finland?

Petter is driving Historic escort.

[tommeke_B]

37 entries on the list now. Henning with Fabia R5.

[seb_sh]

Is this the most new spec cars that have been entered in an event? 4 Ford, 4 Toyota, 3 Citroen and 3 Hyundai

[tc10a]

Is this the most new spec cars that have been entered in an event? 4 Ford, 4 Toyota, 3 Citroen and 3 Hyundai

There are only 2 Citroen?

[Myrvold]

Only 13 WRC cars so far yes.

There was 14 in Poland and Finland 2017 (5 Ford, 3, Citroën, 3 Hyundai, 3 Toyota)

[seb_sh]

My mistake, I skimmed over the news about Ostberg and thought it was about a wrc drive not R5.

[Allez Andruet]

http://urheiluuutiset.com/viisi-suomalaista-wrc-autolla-ruotsin-mm-rallissa-tuohino-hyppaa-fordin-rattiin/

According to this Finnish website (consider it as a reliable source) the fifth Finn driving the latest WRC machinery will be good old Janne Tuohino. Mikko Markkula will codrive and the car is 2017-spec Fiesta.

edit. So my pure speculation was quite close after all. Instead of Hänninen/Markkula it will be a reunion of Tuohino and Markkula, who drove together in 2005.

[racerx1979]

Is this reunion that big of a deal? If they're paying I get it, but its certainly not a great marketing move if Toyota is paying. Gronholm makes perfect sense. Maybe add Harri as the fifth car or even Katsuta and throw on some Pirellis for the guy ;)

[Tarmop]

Why should Toyota pay for a Fiesta?

[ruesluporp]

Only 13 WRC cars so far yes.

There was 14 in Poland and Finland 2017 (5 Ford, 3, Citroën, 3 Hyundai, 3 Toyota)

Seem to me that we will have 14 WRC too: 5 Ford (Suninen, Evans, Tidemand, Bertelli and Tuohino), 4 Toyota (Tänak, Latvala, Meeke, Grönholm), 3 Hyundai (Neuville, Mikkelsen, Loeb), 2 Citroën (Ogier, Lappi)

[AnttiL]

Grönholm is now officially confirmed

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/141031/gronholm-to-contest-wrc-sweden-in-a-toyota

[Entertainer]

- 4 WRC-teams, including Loeb vs Ogier-fight, local swede Tidemand in WRC-car, "Bosse" Grönholm comeback

- Minimum 27-28 R5-cars, including Rovanperä, Östberg, Johan Kristoffersson, Henning Solberg and a number of local/non-local talents who could make a surprise impact.

- JWRC-lineup that could be the most competetive ever, with national and european junior-champions from many countries.

Oh man, Rally Sweden 2019 entrylist is an absolute bombshell. :D Could be greatest rally in years, hoping that the cold weather and snow stays as well.

[SubaruNorway]

Brynildsen enters outside WRC2 and hopes to do 6 ERC events in a Fabia.
https://parcferme.no/rally/eyvind-klar-for-rally-sweden-planlegger-flere-nm-innhopp/?fbclid=IwAR3c9N-_ZFZ7nYX_I4qlcTQlOTHwlGjtrZ9wYL-0Hhnc6UU9XrC-ltgfC60

[Micke_VOC]

Flodin have done his first testing with his new Fabia R5.
Seems that he have the speed left after a couple years only been driving RWD-cars for fun =)

https://www.facebook.com/FlodinRX/videos/233031780976976/UzpfSTE0OTYwNTA1NzcyODA0OTI6MjM2MzQxMTk1MDU0NDM0Ng/

[dodge33cymru]

Entry list for Monte Carlo has good RC2 numbers, but Sweden is already looking spectacular in both quantity and quality. Bergkvist in WRC2 now too. Damn my Norwegian friends deciding to have their wedding in the UK that weekend!

[pantealex]

Damn my Norwegian friends deciding to have their wedding in the UK that weekend!

So, you will miss their wedding, no big deal :)

[dodge33cymru]

So, you will miss their wedding, no big deal :)

Ha, means I'll have WRC+ on my phone in the church :(

Means I'm going to Monte Carlo (well, Gap) instead this year, so can't complain.

I just noticed that Finland isn't the same weekend as Spa 24 Hours this year too.......

[pantealex]

Ha, means I'll have WRC+ on my phone in the church :(

You will go to wedding and miss a rally, NO Think again !!!

https://rallysweden.com/en/28620/
63 to WRC + 57 to Historic = Total 120 cars. Entry is closed.

[the sniper]

Tamara Molinaro down on the entry list in a C3 R5. Too bad Breen isn't in one too...

[pantealex]

Tamara Molinaro down on the entry list in a C3 R5. Too bad Breen isn't in one too...

It´s still possible to switch Breen in and Tamara out...

I like that idea, it´s WRC2 entry, would be great.

[ruesluporp]

Damn my Norwegian friends deciding to have their wedding in the UK that weekend!

A friend of mine completely forgot that the Sweden Rally will be held the same day than his mariage.
Unfortunatly, he already bought his pass for all the special stages.
Is there anyone who wants to enjoy it?
The ceremony will take place on Saturday 10:00 am and the girl's name is Caroline.

[racerx1979]

I should have read more carefully :).

[dimviii]

Flodin
https://www.facebook.com/FlodinRX/videos/233031780976976/UzpfSTE0OTYwNTA1NzcyODA0OTI6MjM2MzQxMTk1MDU0NDM0Ng/

[Rally Power]

There was 14 in Poland and Finland 2017 (5 Ford, 3, Citroën, 3 Hyundai, 3 Toyota)

14 also in Portugal 2017. Btw, fantastic entry list for Sweden; besides all the major WRC and WRC2 competitors it's great to have Gronholm back.

[Myrvold]

14 also in Portugal 2017. Btw, fantastic entry list for Sweden; besides all the major WRC and WRC2 competitors it's great to have Gronholm back.

I completely forgot that Citroën actually had one rally with a 4th car!

[satukata]

When they sell rallymagazine? Do you have last years maps wiht spactating places?

[satnav]

When they sell rallymagazine? Do you have last years maps wiht spactating places?

The Rally Magazine is sent out from week 5 , also last year about the same time the spectator section on the website had the spectator areas for each stage so hopefully it is the same this year. Hope this helps.

[Barreis]

Janne Touhino entered Rally Sweden in his new fiesta WRC 2017

[ruesluporp]

Rally Guide 2 is online : https://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/documents/

[AnttiL]

Röjden seems to now have a bit of new at the end. This replaces the part that was left unploughed last year. Torsby is also shortened a bit from the end.

[dimviii]

Kopecky testing at snow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=106&v=rgpaKdbokA8

[pantealex]

Kopecky testing at snow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=106&v=rgpaKdbokA8

He is NOT driving in RallySweden...

[Rallyper]

Anyone got to know PW for reccevids on Rally sweden site? If so, pls PM me.

[dimviii]

He is NOT driving in RallySweden...

didn t know that Pantealex,thanks for correcting mate

[SubaruNorway]

The recce video's are from last year and no Rämmen, so no use really

[pantealex]

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/entry-list-rally-sweden-2019-approved-1.pdf
Entrylist.
#68 Grönholm

#92 Tuohino

[masa90]

Has there usually been any "meet the drivers"-event or anything similar during rally sweden?

[ruesluporp]

Has there usually been any "meet the drivers"-event or anything similar during rally sweden?

Date: Thursday 14 February
Time: 18:15 – 18:45
Place: Indoor grand stand (“Toto-hallen”), Karlstad Super Special Stage (marked C on drawing No 3 “Starting area” in Appendix 4).

https://zupimages.net/up/19/03/xxyj.jpg (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=19/03/xxyj.jpg)

[masa90]

Date: Thursday 14 February
Time: 18:15 – 18:45
Place: Indoor grand stand (“Toto-hallen”), Karlstad Super Special Stage (marked C on drawing No 3 “Starting area” in Appendix 4).

https://zupimages.net/up/19/03/xxyj.jpg (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=19/03/xxyj.jpg)

Cool thanks !

Any ideas on where the best viewing place (and possibility to take pictures) is on the sss itself?

First time in rally sweden.

[ruesluporp]

Cool thanks !

Any ideas on where the best viewing place (and possibility to take pictures) is on the sss itself?

First time in rally sweden.

Best view from the building 'C' (Toto Hallen)!
The hippodrome is flat, so you don't see a lot.

https://zupimages.net/up/19/03/zmxg.jpg (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=19/03/zmxg.jpg)
https://zupimages.net/up/19/03/cr95.jpg (http://zupimages.net/viewer.php?id=19/03/cr95.jpg)

[DocMS]

Anyone any Info on current conditions on stages. Have been reading on other sites that karlstad has no snow and very little on stages.??? Was rally held out of torsby last week and stages cut up to gravel after few cars supposedly.

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[Entertainer]

Anyone any Info on current conditions on stages. Have been reading on other sites that karlstad has no snow and very little on stages.??? Was rally held out of torsby last week and stages cut up to gravel after few cars supposedly.

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Nah I say it's looking promising, at least in the stages.

https://weather.com/sv-SE/weather/tenday/l/78452e035a5c791912d2bca0cbb992f7cd9c4519bdab70f761 b6e17c021d3a2f

On weather sites, search for "Torsby", or "Hagfors". Its below freezing temperatures and expecting nothing less the following two weeks, with snow some of the days. Looking good so far!

[DocMS]

Nah I say it's looking promising, at least in the stages.

https://weather.com/sv-SE/weather/tenday/l/78452e035a5c791912d2bca0cbb992f7cd9c4519bdab70f761 b6e17c021d3a2f

On weather sites, search for "Torsby", or "Hagfors". Its below freezing temperatures and expecting nothing less the following two weeks, with snow some of the days. Looking good so far!That's what was confusing. Weather sites all looked good. Page on Facebook said otherwise

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[Tarmop]

Use gismeteo.ru or yr.no to get the best intell...although since it is so far away, they can`t predict it also....

[Rallyper]

There are two sides of the coin.

1) Snow conditions regarding snowbanks, doesn´t mean

2) Icy bottom on stages.

Hopefully there´s both. But if it was gravel last Saturday in Torsby and we get cold below zero up to date of RS, there still be gravel but maybe big snowbanks.

If unlucky we´ll have neither...

[Myrvold]

Anyone any Info on current conditions on stages. Have been reading on other sites that karlstad has no snow and very little on stages.??? Was rally held out of torsby last week and stages cut up to gravel after few cars supposedly.

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https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup 40-ish CM snow in the area (some right under, some over).
Don't pay too much attention to Karlstad, the stages aren't there.

[Zeakiwi]

This one reckons small blizzard for Karlstad. (Sunday/ Monday) then warming up later in the extended forecast.
https://weather-and-climate.com/10-ten-day-forecast,Karlstad,Sweden

[Myrvold]

This one reckons small blizzard for Karlstad. (Sunday/ Monday) then warming up later in the extended forecast.
https://weather-and-climate.com/10-ten-day-forecast,Karlstad,Sweden

Then again, with the exception of the Super Special, the weather in Karlstad are quite irrelevant for the actual rally.

However, the forecast for Torsby is quite similar. Nice amount of snow the coming days, but loads of rain at the end of the long-term forecast. Hagfors however will not get any rain, but the same amount of snow. So I'd say the long term forecast is quite unstable atm and nothing to pay too much attention to. If the forecast for the 3rd, 4th and 5th of February is the same when we enter February, it is time to get a bit unhappy.

Though, a day with rain, and then freezing temperatures will just be nice in terms of a bit of solid ice.

[RS]

Have entries now closed? No changes to the entry list online for some time..

[Tarmop]

They`ve been closed for some time now yes, since 15.01.

[satnav]

Have entries now closed? No changes to the entry list online for some time..

Yes entry list is now approved by the FIA ;

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/entry-list-rally-sweden-2019-newapproved-1.pdf

[Rallyper]

Then again, with the exception of the Super Special, the weather in Karlstad are quite irrelevant for the actual rally.

However, the forecast for Torsby is quite similar. Nice amount of snow the coming days, but loads of rain at the end of the long-term forecast. Hagfors however will not get any rain, but the same amount of snow. So I'd say the long term forecast is quite unstable atm and nothing to pay too much attention to. If the forecast for the 3rd, 4th and 5th of February is the same when we enter February, it is time to get a bit unhappy.

Though, a day with rain, and then freezing temperatures will just be nice in terms of a bit of solid ice.

If raining it´s important to have all stages plowed and packed snow before rain comes.
Hopefully it will freeze again Before rally. Then we´ll have perfect surface.

[BleAivano]

This one reckons small blizzard for Karlstad. (Sunday/ Monday) then warming up later in the extended forecast. https://weather-and-climate.com/10-ten-day-forecast,Karlstad,Sweden use these sites instead: https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/ortsprognoser/q/Torsby/2667876#ort=2715953,59.366665/16.5;flik=0,tab=0,chart=1 https://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Torsby/langtidsvarsel.html The expected winds are light to moderate so I wouldn't call it a blizzard. Also no rain expected for Torsby during the next 10 days according to current forcastes.

[polomayu]

Hello. For those who have spectated the first part of vargasen, wich road do you take for arriving there, the one thaht comes from the north or the other from the south? Anyway, do you know if some of those roads are closed during the rally? Do they cut the road from a lot of distance befire the stage start?

Is there anyone near the area that can drive and record the rammen stage? Or anyone that have a video from there?

Anyone trying to see 2 stges in the saturday morning loop?

Thanks very much everyone.

Zona de los archivos adjuntos
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[Sulland]

Why just one car i 2Pro from Citroen. They need data on loose from more than Mads to develop.

[PLuto]

Why just one car i 2Pro from Citroen. They need data on loose from more than Mads to develop.

Citroën is not so much interested in WRC2 Pro...

[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2019/01/28/route-preview-rally-sweden-2019/

Route preview. Not much to write about in terms of changed itinerary, but I tried to analyze the stages in greater depth through onboards. The ones I would like to highlight are Hof-Finnskog being almost completely sixth gear stuff between numerous junctions and Vargåsen, with a very technical road before Colin's Crest.

[RS]

Citroën is not so much interested in WRC2 Pro...

I guess one problem holding back WRC2 Pro, is that bar VW and Skoda, the other manufacturers with competitive cars already promote their brand in the main WRC class. Back in the peak IRC days for Skoda, Peugeot, Fiat, Proton S2000 was their top product.

[Rallyper]

No recce video for Rämmen stage yet. Why?

[tommeke_B]

No recce video for Rämmen stage yet. Why?

Don't worry, still 2,5 weeks. ;)

[SubaruNorway]

Hello. For those who have spectated the first part of vargasen, wich road do you take for arriving there, the one thaht comes from the north or the other from the south? Anyway, do you know if some of those roads are closed during the rally? Do they cut the road from a lot of distance befire the stage start?

Is there anyone near the area that can drive and record the rammen stage? Or anyone that have a video from there?

Anyone trying to see 2 stges in the saturday morning loop?

Thanks very much everyone.

Zona de los archivos adjuntos
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There are two roads from the south and one coming from the north into the same junction as the 2nd one from the south.
After they made the stage shorter the 1st one from the south has been quite crowded and a few cars falling into the ditch as It's a bit narrow, If you're early/lucky you can park 50-100m from the stage at all places.
Going from Rämmen to Vargåsen the shortest route after WRC will probably work but not sure i would recommend it.

[tomhlord]

For a first time Rally Sweden visitor, does anyone have any advice about how to stay warm, please?

It may sound daft, but standing for many hours in a frozen forest seems a bit challenging!

[bandit12]

...how to stay warm...

Alcohol. And bonfire. And more alcohol.

[Rallyper]

For a first time Rally Sweden visitor, does anyone have any advice about how to stay warm, please?

It may sound daft, but standing for many hours in a frozen forest seems a bit challenging!

Proper boots (Muckboots from Canada) is the first thing...

[ruesluporp]

For a first time Rally Sweden visitor, does anyone have any advice about how to stay warm, please?

It may sound daft, but standing for many hours in a frozen forest seems a bit challenging!

Put some fir branches under your feet, it isolates you from the frozen ground.
Bring a disposable grill with you, and some swedish sausages with the proper breads.
Do not forget a small camping seat, your buttocks will not be wet!
In case of extreme cold, take some logs with you and make a fire.

[Luijbregts]

Proper boots (Muckboots from Canada) is the first thing...

@Tomhlord: Ski wear, Woolen underwear both top and legs under your ski wear, water proof boots (I use the SOREL winterboots), Bring wood, knife and axe for fire, Jagermeister/beer and remember water, Coffee/tea you can cook over the fire, Find places in the sun if it is sunny, Use grane tree leaves/sticks to stand on. Have a great time :-)

[Allez Andruet]

For a first time Rally Sweden visitor, does anyone have any advice about how to stay warm, please?

You can't stay warm, simple as that. No matter what you're wearing, first your feet will start to freeze and there's no coming back from that. But hey, it's all part of the experience.

[tc10a]

Are you all going on a Northpole expedition? :)

I have been until now 14 times in Rally Sweden and NEVER had any problems with the cold wearing standard ski outfit (underwear and ski wear) and good winter trekking boots suitable for -30 degrees and more. Maybe cap and gloves to change if they get wet. If it is a really cold year just put one or two tshirts more on and thats it.

No need for fires, coffee, soups, alcohol, knives or axes or whatever. How do you bring all this stuff to the stage? :)
I prefer to stay flexible and change my location during the day on the stage - then there is absolutely no need to build half a campsite.

[satnav]

No recce video for Rämmen stage yet. Why?

Hi Per on WRC+ you can see onboards from the 2016 version , I know its the opposite direction and not exactly the same but at the minute its better than nothing and gives a bit of an idea of the road, if anyone gets the password for the stage videos I would appreciate a pm as well.

[Rallyper]

Hi Per on WRC+ you can see onboards from the 2016 version , I know its the opposite direction and not exactly the same but at the minute its better than nothing and gives a bit of an idea of the road, if anyone gets the password for the stage videos I would appreciate a pm as well.

Thanks Satnav. I already done that, with Mads, Seb and Historic Volvo of Mats Thorszelius... ;)

And yes, you get to know places where there´s open Crests and some stuff like that. But more could have happened since 2016 so I´m curious.
I have my thoughts of where to stay, but the more I get it confirmed the better… and from correct direction.

But thanks anyway, mate.

[STI69]

For a first time Rally Sweden visitor, does anyone have any advice about how to stay warm, please?

It may sound daft, but standing for many hours in a frozen forest seems a bit challenging!

I have been in Rally Sweden four times and those have helped me a lot: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Hands-Single-Instant-Warmers-Value/dp/B00GUH39YQ

[Tarmop]

Alcohol. And bonfire. And more alcohol.



Stay away from alcohol. It makes you feel warm momenteraly, but otherwise will cool you down even more and the only way to avoid that is to drink more...and more...and even more.

[ELPE]

Alcohol. And bonfire. And more alcohol.
I have seen people drinking alcohol and then behaving in a deadly way. I have also taken care of and give people ride home who would otherwise probably be frozen to death. Are you going on the rally, so stay sober

[dimviii]

Tamara Molinaro c3 for Sweden

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyGd8sCX4AAPEDV.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyGd8rpX0AAPrj9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyGd8rmXQAciE-x.jpg

[satukata]

There is much snow in torsby now. And even karlstad have snow now. Hope -degrees and there is perfect rally sweden conditions https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup

[satukata]

Nice car! How fast or slow driver Tamara is?

[Mirek]

You can check yourself: https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/60994-tamara-molinaro/

She achieved some reasonable results with an R2 car. Last year with the R5 she didn't drive much and the results weren't really worth talking about.

[satnav]

The stage info is now available on the website

https://rallysweden.com/en/the-race/

Then just click what stage you want the info for.

[Jarek Z]

Wow! That's a beautiful livery on Molinaro's car!

[sindroms]

Stay away from alcohol. It makes you feel warm momenteraly, but otherwise will cool you down even more and the only way to avoid that is to drink more...and more...and even more.

Alcohol expands blood vessels and it creates a deceptive sense of warmth. In fact in that way the body starts to cool.
So if someone decided to use alcohol you just need to find a reason other than warming up :)

[satukata]

watching rally(in stages) and alcohol is poor combination. It can be even dangerous. alllive at home and beer is ok.

[BleAivano]

Some live broadcasted rally sprint tomorrow, See details here: https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?31717-Swedish-rallying-championship-news&p=1207416&viewfull=1#post1207416

[Entertainer]

Some weather forecasts for day 1 of the Rally, still very early of course but with the temp around -2 to -10 degrees C in the week leading up to the rally, I say we are in for a good show.1717
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Edit: Oh dear, why are they only thumbnails? How do I make'm BIGGER?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MSportLtd
Today saw @janproracing collect their EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta WRC. We’re looking forward to seeing what Janne can do behind the wheel @RallySweden later this month! #WRC #FordPerformance https://t.co/sHNMe8EAUT

[BleAivano]

Some weather forecasts for day 1 of the Rally, still very early of course but with the temp around -2 to -10 degrees C in the week leading up to the rally, I say we are in for a good show.1717 1718 Edit: Oh dear, why are they only thumbnails? How do I make'm BIGGER? According to Jonas Kruse on SVT's rally broadcast today there are allot of snow in the Torsby area but the road conditions aren't that great though. There will be lots of snow and snowbanks but perhaps not that much ice on the roads.

[Myrvold]

According to Jonas Kruse on SVT's rally broadcast today there are allot of snow in the Torsby area but the road conditions aren't that great though. There will be lots of snow and snowbanks but perhaps not that much ice on the roads.

That sounds about right regarding ice on the roads. I'd guess there being 45-50cm of snow in the area right now. Long term forecast is extremely unstable though, it could be anywhere from +5 to -10 degrees by the looks of it.

[tommeke_B]

Watching the weather more than one week before the event makes little sense. It could be 5 degrees the days before the rally making it impossible to run the event...

[DocMS]

From Thursday forecast is showing + degrees with small amounts of rain. Hopefully don't lose to much snow.


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[Lead]

The latest forecasts looks dreadful for region. Starting from Thursday + degrees and rain.

[Tauri_J]

yep it changed for worse, much worse

5+ days with plus degrees and rain

[Sulland]

Would be nice with one day of a bit of rain, then minus 10 for a few days then 1 m snow, and stabile -5 c for some days for the new snow to get stabile!

[Tarmop]

There is too much time to look at the forecasts...
For instance, only yesterday (and the whole week before) i was promised by yr.no to get 6mm of rain from yesterday 18pm until now and + degrees. It is warm, but what wasn`t there, was the rain, got wet snow instead. And plus degrees should have laste until tomorrow 14pm, now they are predicting <0 degrees from 00.00 onwards.

Plus degrees and a bit rain, like i am seeing in yr.no should do good for the roads there, when it gets colder right after.

[T16]

What’s the deal if most of the snow is lost? Will it still run?
I remember it got pretty bad (10 years - I think) ago, but can’t remember if they cancelled any or all of it.

[Tarmop]

We mostly need thick ice and not deteriorating roads, not snow, although there should be enough of it no to go away entirely.

[Tauri_J]

I heard ice layer is not that thick this year.

[Tarmop]

That is why its good to have plus degrees and a bit rain/wet snow, followed then by sufficient minus degrees.

[BleAivano]

What’s the deal if most of the snow is lost? Will it still run? I remember it got pretty bad (10 years - I think) ago, but can’t remember if they cancelled any or all of it. Well lots of snow looks nice and provides great snow banks. However snow itself is quite loose and won't provide much grip or solid base layer. Ice is achieved by lots of snow that is compress by vehicles (temps around 0 required( and then freezing. Repeat that (cold weather and new snow then warmer weather for a few days followed by longer periods of colder weather) a few times and you will get very good conditions. However if it is too warm or just cold with powder snow the road conditions won't be good.

[Tauri_J]

That is why its good to have plus degrees and a bit rain/wet snow, followed then by sufficient minus degrees.

of course, but what if the frost wont come after melt...then it would be really bad

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[Lead]

If weather really hits as picture shows above, I'm pretty sure rally will be cancelled.

[N.O.T]

If weather really hits as picture shows above, I'm pretty sure rally will be cancelled.

usually the temperatures in the forest are a lot lower than populated areas.

Aren't you guys bored to make the weather in Sweden such a big deal every year ? o your urge to show your stupidity to the world is too much to handle ???

[Tarmop]

Tauri_J, it has been mentioned on the last few pages, that you shouldn`t look at Karlstad, as it is the place where the SSS takes place. Rally is quite a lot further north.

[BleAivano]

of course, but what if the frost wont come after melt...then it would be really bad SMHI forecast: Looks really good. More snow followed by warmer weather with a little rain followed by more snow and colder weather. https://i.imgur.com/fWBTm1f.png https://i.imgur.com/7yyUVfY.png https://i.imgur.com/4KwblYN.png

[DocMS]

.

o your urge to show your stupidity to the world is too much to handle ???

Will you even travel to the rally or just sit behind your keyboard acting like a tube


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[Tauri_J]

Tauri_J, it has been mentioned on the last few pages, that you shouldn`t look at Karlstad, as it is the place where the SSS takes place. Rally is quite a lot further north.

I know, thats why I included hagfors. Theres lots of warm fronts moving in, looks worrying.

[tommeke_B]

usually the temperatures in the forest are a lot lower than populated areas.

Aren't you guys bored to make the weather in Sweden such a big deal every year ? o your urge to show your stupidity to the world is too much to handle ???
As classic and predictable as the weather-panic is, so is your whining about it, N.O.T.

Of course for many people it IS a big deal. For example for people who actually spectate the events and enjoy them, unlike you... Also those places forecasted aren't that populated, not like a larger city, so the population there has no visible effect on the temperature. Fortunately it's a long term forecast, if the forecast for those days is still the same or worse by the end of next week, we can start to panic. Friday stages seem to be safer, however.

[masa90]

Has there ever been a cancelled rally Sweden? I remember in 15 or 16 that it was shortened by quite a bit but never the full rally right?? But let's see, here in the neighboring country no matter what they have predicted the outcome has been cold and really much snow.

[AnttiL]

1990 was cancelled altogether

[N.O.T]

As classic and predictable as the weather-panic is, so is your whining about it, N.O.T.

Of course for many people it IS a big deal. For example for people who actually spectate the events and enjoy them, unlike you... Also those places forecasted aren't that populated, not like a larger city, so the population there has no visible effect on the temperature. Fortunately it's a long term forecast, if the forecast for those days is still the same or worse by the end of next week, we can start to panic. Friday stages seem to be safer, however.

Are you serious ? how a prediction will affect spectators ? Is there anyone who is going to cancel his plans because of a prediction ?

stupidity should be illegal... every year we have the same stupid discussion and nothing happens... if you want to parade your mental incapability go somewhere else....

[masa90]

Well, about -5 to -10 would be the dream. I would be happy aslong as they can drive

[tc10a]

... and in 1974 it was cancelled because of the oil crisis. So hopefully there is no oil embargo predicted in the next 2 weeks ;)

[DocMS]

stupidity should be illegal.....

As should your comments on here.

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[Rallyper]

If weather really hits as picture shows above, I'm pretty sure rally will be cancelled.

Nope.

[SubaruNorway]

usually the temperatures in the forest are a lot lower than populated areas.

Funniest thing I've read today, you haven't been to Torsby or Hagfors have you?

[Myrvold]

As should your comments on here.



Use the report-button. Maybe it works? Or maybe not.

[Lead]

Nope.
Posted picture shows a week with plus degrees and rain... in that case the roads would be destroyed. I'm not saying thats true forecast, just reffering to exact picture.

[AnttiL]

Posted picture shows a week with plus degrees and rain... in that case the roads would be destroyed. I'm not saying thats true forecast, just reffering to exact picture.

It's a more complex situation than one weather forecast. The Norway stages will have different climate to that of the Saturday stages, and in the forests there are more shady and more open places. And like we saw in 2016 the organizers can still do a lot by canceling the worst stages and repairing the better ones to make the rally run through instead of canceling altogether. And finally, these forecasts are for a week ahead, and that is still almost a full week before the rally starts. A lot can still happen. We just have to wait.

[Lead]

It's a more complex situation than one weather forecast. The Norway stages will have different climate to that of the Saturday stages, and in the forests there are more shady and more open places. And like we saw in 2016 the organizers can still do a lot by canceling the worst stages and repairing the better ones to make the rally run through instead of canceling altogether. And finally, these forecasts are for a week ahead, and that is still almost a full week before the rally starts. A lot can still happen. We just have to wait.

Sure thing. I have been to rally Sweden many times, so I know how weather differentiates in that region. I just want the best possible weather conditions for drivers and spectators to enjoy the event, so these "+" degrees for a long period of time, doesnt do any good.

[AnttiL]

https://www.yr.no/place/Sweden/V%C3%A4rmland/Torsby/long.html

Now the forecast has at least turned better, being on the plus degrees only from Saturday morning to Monday afternoon, returning onto good minus degrees on Tuesday, meaning it should create a good ice layer. But again, it's too early to predict that far. But at least I wouldn't be worried about the rally being cancelled.

[masa90]

Yeah, Foreca seems to be on similar tracks. Really early days though. Lets see.

[Rallyper]

Posted picture shows a week with plus degrees and rain... in that case the roads would be destroyed. I'm not saying thats true forecast, just reffering to exact picture.

If snow is just packed by vehicles, it will only transmit to icy stuff and when minus degrees it will be strong ice. If we´re lucky that´s what´s going to happen...

[Rallyper]

On radio meteorologist says 2-3dm snow in Värmland next coming 24h. Then forecast as already said rest of the week.

[Entertainer]

On radio meteorologist says 2-3dm snow in Värmland next coming 24h. Then forecast as already said rest of the week.

Yeah, forecasts were really bad for a day or two but has turned now,; rally week has 0 to -7 degrees well until sunday and some snow thursday 14th.