Rally Sweden 14-17 FEB 2019

[doubled1978]

Probably no bad thing. If he's not got the confidence no point risking.
Think I'm right in saying only Kris, Ott and Loeb are the only drivers so far that haven't spun or put it in a snow bank.

Yes I think that’s part of it, and also some of the mistakes of previous years may well be weighing heavy on his shoulders.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1XUJ2FHCN1W11/super-stage-sweden

And no Jon Desborough. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not a strong event for Meeke. Why lose points for driver and manu by binning it. Tanaks showing the cars speed so no need to take risks

Meeke has been pretty anonymous. In fact on last nights highlights he wasnt shown or interviewed once...

[KKS]

oh stupid spectators and marshals

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML off again.

[stefanvv]

Latvala overcooked it again

[TypeR]

pls tell me, why fans don't sit in the boot or open the doors and stand on the sides, to get more weight and therefore more grip? this stage his car is basically on the road with 3 wheels and still they are trying to dig from the front

[stefanvv]

Is he carrying a toe rope? :D

[KKS]

pls tell me, why fans don't sit in the boot or open the doors and stand on the sides, to get more weight and therefore more grip? this stage his car is basically on the road with 3 wheels and still they are trying to dig from the front
looks like random people there who didn't know what to do (

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The most experienced WRC driver EVER and multiple Sweden-winner and he goes off again. Shows its not easy out there.

[N.O.T]

The most experienced WRC driver EVER and multiple Sweden-winner and he goes off again. Shows its not easy out there.

no it shows he is nothing and should be out of the wrc long ago.

[KKS]

Meeke even slower than Tidemand. What a shame (

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice jump Kris !

[Norm75]

Meeke even slower than Tidemand. What a shame (

Spent too long hanging in the air over the crest!

[stefanvv]

No records on the crest this year with the slush.

[Norm75]

How lucky is neuville

[stefanvv]

That's crazy Neuville

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow Neuville lucky there.

[Moriarty]

How lucky is Neville!
And still fastest

[stefanvv]

Looks like almost not losing time:D

[stefanvv]

How many times Neuville was lucky here - 3? He shot his luck for half year.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Woahhhhhhhh Ogier ! :D

[stefanvv]

Ogier should have jumped more, should avoided the aftermath

[Entertainer]

Meeke even slower than Tidemand. What a shame (

Not Meeke going slower, Tidemand going faster... ;) Meeke as "slow" as he was last stage when compared to f.ex. Neuville and other drivers up front. Tidemand with a great time, when looking at road position

[Entertainer]

Woahhhhhhhh Ogier ! :D

Holy crap

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Better effort by Evans on that one.

[KKS]

what a battle for 2nd

[stefanvv]

oh, not again

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shit Teemu... :(

[KKS]

Roll-cage damaged for Suninen. it's over

[Entertainer]

Sunninen... :s

[jonkka]

Roll-cage damaged for Suninen. it's over

I don't believe that, too slow for that. Just panels, I think.

[stefanvv]

The aero survived, the cage not:(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

:disturb:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DziQnyVXgAE76yM.jpg:large

[TypeR]

good that the tree didn't hit co-drivers door..

[Norm75]

I don't believe that, too slow for that. Just panels, I think.
Definite kink in the tube behind co drivers seat. Game over.

[macebig]

Yeah...Bent rollcage... He is out.

[mknight]

So:
- Gronholm lost brakes
- Latvala in ditch
- Neuville massive spin
- Ogier big moment scratching a tree ("It wasn't so close", year right..)
- Suninen crash

Some drama

[KKS]

I don't believe that, too slow for that. Just panels, I think.
upper tube - bend

[mousti]

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[Norm75]

So:
- Gronholm lost brakes
- Latvala in ditch
- Neuville massive spin
- Ogier big moment scratching a tree ("It wasn't so close", year right..)
- Suninen crash

Some drama
Yeh funny quote from Ogier about it not being close!
Think he might change his mind on that one after watching a replay.

[KKS]

it's a FIA tent?

[Entertainer]

Yeah...Bent rollcage... He is out.

Brilliantly fast at times, but too fast it seems. :/

From a swede's point of view: Really sucks BIGTIME for Tidemand, now he won't be able to show speed for the rest of the rally, points for the team more important..

[jonkka]

If so then either what I saw was in slo-mo or their roll cage doesn't take much to bend. Spin ought to have taken most of the energy out before impact.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Idiot fan lying by the stage was lucky as Suninen slid off...

https://i.imgur.com/Z0Riyfx.jpg

[jparker]

upper tube - bend
Did you actually see the tube? I didn't. With that speed, the roll cage should be intact.

[Norm75]

If so then either what I saw was in slo-mo or their roll cage doesn't take much to bend. Spin ought to have taken most of the energy out before impact.
Looked quite a hard impact. Don't forget a tree is an immovable object, somethings got to give.

[Norm75]

Did you actually see the tube? I didn't. With that speed, the roll cage should be intact.

Camera went round the damaged side at end of stage, could clearly see the tube bent and kinked.

[drive]

Ogier being 'It wasn't so close' :)
https://i.imgur.com/aiDv4qf.jpg

[jonkka]

Looked quite a hard impact. Don't forget a tree is an immovable object, somethings got to give.

Looked like half-hearted slap if you ask me. That's why I am so amazed that the tube did bend (as pics prove).

[KKS]

Correct me if I'm wrong but he shall be disqualified for that, right?
https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stewards-decission-no-1.pdf

What conclusion we can made from all of this? - Never take care about other's and safety, only about yourself or being penalized.
Next time in similar situation - BLOCK ROAD, make unsafe situation, wait for co-driver. © FIA un-safety delegate

[KKS]

Suninen goes towards service-park. Retirement
https://twitter.com/Karlip1/status/1096792201764454400

[denkimi]

Ogier being 'It wasn't so close' :)
I can't see that pic.

[drive]

I can't see that pic.

https://i.imgur.com/aiDv4qf.jpg

[stefanvv]

Ogier being 'It wasn't so close'

not so close to the road

[mknight]

Thing is he was locked-up under breaking and going sideways into that three right before and corrected it at last moment.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://i.imgur.com/aiDv4qf.jpg

That tree is particularly close to the road, I'm surprised it's not been removed. There have been many close-calls on that right-hander after Colin's Crest over the years.

[Mirek]

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stewards-decission-no-1.pdf

What conclusion we can made from all of this? - Never take care about other's and safety, only about yourself or being penalized.
Next time in similar situation - BLOCK ROAD, make unsafe situation, wait for co-driver. © FIA un-safety delegate

Sorry, but they are very lucky to get away with only five minutes penalty. The stewards were very kind this time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville on CC last year:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWPsv_OWkAA3UNe.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWPswdvXkAAuvHo.jpg

[Finne]

Can someone tell from where I can read driver comments?

I normally use rally base but it´s empty this time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MSportLtd

Our mechanics are the best in the world and they love a challenge! @TeemuSuninenRac’s Fiesta is back in service and work to repair the rollcage is underway! #WRC #FordPerformance

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1096805648480825345

[Norm75]

Can someone tell from where I can read driver comments?

I normally use rally base but it´s empty this time.

e-wrc, scroll down past stage and overall classifications, usually driver comments under that

[Norm75]

Looked like half-hearted slap if you ask me. That's why I am so amazed that the tube did bend (as pics prove).

Don't forget, it's not just the impact speed of the car travelling at the tree, but the car was being flipped over at the same time so the force of rotation has to be taken into account as well.
If it was a straight side on, the roll cage may have escaped damage, but the site of impact was top of rear side window directly above the roll cage.

[TypeR]

@MSportLtd

Our mechanics are the best in the world and they love a challenge! @TeemuSuninenRac’s Fiesta is back in service and work to repair the rollcage is underway! #WRC #FordPerformance

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1096805648480825345
the team is allowed to repair the roll cage during rally? that's interesting, but if so, then let's hope they can do it and rejoin tomorrow

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@TeemuSuninenRac

Unfortunately, having inspected the damage we got on SS14, we had to retire from the @RallySweden. The rollcage was damaged, so we were not allowed to drive any further. What a pity. After having had a series of good times, it feels disappointing. #WRC #RallySweden

[Tarmop]

Sorry, but they are very lucky to get away with only five minutes penalty. The stewards were very kind this time.

I agree with that penalty yes, no need to cause a precedent, but real life can`t follow the rules all the time....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

the team is allowed to repair the roll cage during rally? that's interesting, but if so, then let's hope they can do it and rejoin tomorrow

They can fix it as they manufactured the roll-cage...

https://i.imgur.com/om1NcjR.jpg

[KKS]

That tree is particularly close to the road, I'm surprised it's not been removed. There have been many close-calls on that right-hander after Colin's Crest over the years.
r u serious? tree should be removed at rally stage cuz one driver can't control own car?

pffff

[TypeR]

okay, understood. does every team make their own roll cages? if not, then it seems a bit unfair to those..

[jonkka]

but the site of impact was top of rear side window directly above the roll cage.

Good point, a glancing blow is a different beast.

[KKS]

okay, understood. does every team make their own roll cages? if not, then it seems a bit unfair to those..
I guess what team homologate them - can repair.

[KKS]

Super Special Pool Karlstad 2

[TypeR]

terrible conditions on SS15 Karlstad..

[mknight]

Swimming competition

[Fast Eddie WRC]

r u serious? tree should be removed at rally stage cuz one driver can't control own car?

pffff

I wouldnt. I'm just surprised the organisers havent.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Awful stage and conditions but you have to watch in case someone makes a big mistake...

[KKS]

"You don't need any confidence when you driving in ruts. You just need to be slow. And it suits me"©Lappi :D

[dimviii]

Μeeke longest jump
https://youtu.be/LtovnxNzswk

Kristoffersson
https://www.facebook.com/rallypl/videos/303695703657756/

[KKS]

Torn half roll on SS13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsG-di2p42A

[Mirek]

I agree with that penalty yes, no need to cause a precedent, but real life can`t follow the rules all the time....

Yes, I agree. I only wanted to say that it's wrong to bash stewards in this case when they clearly issued lesser penalty than what shall be normally expected.

[T16]

Pickems have gone to shit.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/x_ReGAp9aVM

[hari]

Some pics from Saturday:

http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden5/1.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden5/2.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden5/3.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden5/4.jpghttp://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2019/schweden5/14.jpg



more soon at http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wrc_rallye_schweden_2019.html

[TypeR]

super photos Hari ;)

[mufcAleksi]

Huttunen might get power stage points tomorrow. Again fourth fastest on this stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Torsby Sprint is such a better kind of spectator stage for both viewers and drivers. Karlstad and stages like it should be binned.

[Esko]

Huttunen again impressive and took WRC2 lead

[KKS]

Huttunen again impressive
yes

and took WRC2 lead
nope

[Micke_VOC]

@AnttiL (https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC) ‏ (https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC)are famous now on WRC + =)

[Esko]

yes

nope

Ah, it was mistake time for Veiby, he's Still leading

[doubled1978]

Fair play to Huttunen, the way he has driven today has been fantastic. We all love rally because when you see a guy properly let it off it’s the most spectacular sport there is, and today that guy has let it off....����

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyp36lYy4k0

[KKS]

Uhhhuuu
https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1096853135233073158

M-Sport
@MSportLtd


�� Job done, car fixed ���� Our mechanics do what they do best and @TeemuSuninenRac’s Ford Fiesta WRC is safely in parc ferme for the evening #WRC

[AnttiL]

@AnttiL (https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC) ‏ (https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC)are famous now on WRC + =)

Nice that they go through the tweets sometimes. But it's not the first time I've featured there ;)

[OHL]

They can fix it as they manufactured the roll-cage...

https://i.imgur.com/om1NcjR.jpg

The regulations allow the replacement of certain parts of the roll cage. The main hoop for example cannot be replaced but certain other parts of the cage that are not as integral can be replaced. Each accident is unique and the scrutineers / FIA Technical chief decide what can be repaired and what can't. The fix can be carried out by anyone qualified, it does not need to be the cage manufacturer, although in most cases it is done this way, it is not a requirement.

[OHL]

I don't believe that, too slow for that. Just panels, I think.


If so then either what I saw was in slo-mo or their roll cage doesn't take much to bend. Spin ought to have taken most of the energy out before impact.


Did you actually see the tube? I didn't. With that speed, the roll cage should be intact.


Looked like half-hearted slap if you ask me. That's why I am so amazed that the tube did bend (as pics prove).

Rollcages work as a complete structure with tubes in compression supporting each other. They are very strong this way but when you hit one tube square on the side it folds up like a taco. You can see this with a soda can, which you can almost stand on when end to end but you can cave the side in with a flick of your finger.
This tube was hit with the worst possible loading and it folded. It's not strong enough to support that type of impact by design because the wall thickness would be too great to work as needed.

[COD]

Ogier not trying to make new frinds or fans. Took a penalty just because ”didn’t feel like driving in the slush” What a jerk. He made a mistake that was the reason for his startposition. Accept your own mistakes a be a man. My respect to him is 0

[masa90]

Nice experience on the forests so far! Loved the Röjden stage and also Vargåsen, I was located bit after Cc, I think really close to that spot from which Hari took those photos above. Did not like the Hagfors arena. Bad conditions, felt really artificial and bit boring design.

[Tarmop]

Ogier not trying to make new frinds or fans. Took a penalty just because ”didn’t feel like driving in the slush” What a jerk. He made a mistake that was the reason for his startposition. Accept your own mistakes a be a man. My respect to him is 0

Others will follow until it is allowed and if they have to...it`s every man and team for themselves on those stages.

[RS]

Huttunen has been mega, Skoda nominated the wrong guys this weekend!

[tomhlord]

First time in Rally Sweden for us this year. Did as much as possible across Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Absolutely shattered! Very early starts, but worth it.

What an amazing rally for the WRC. Well run, some great spots and stunning scenery. Should be number one on your rally bucket list.

Always mind blowing to see these current spec cars in action, quite enjoyed seeing the new R2 Fiestas in action too, they look like fun.

Put a few pictures here, will sort some more and a video soon. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomhlord/

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7807/46392561824_430d769390_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dFy1kA)WRC Sweden 2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2dFy1kA)
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7826/47116281501_94fa52aa51_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2eMvfZ4)WRC Sweden 2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2eMvfZ4) by Thomas Harrison-Lord (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomhlord/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7893/40151597983_1814f1bb5e_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24b4rdK)WRC Sweden 2019 (https://flic.kr/p/24b4rdK) by Thomas Harrison-Lord (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomhlord/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7924/46392584794_881e593a5c_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2dFy8aC)WRC Sweden 2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2dFy8aC) by Thomas Harrison-Lord (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomhlord/), on Flickr
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7855/40151615743_caa8f7a8d2_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/24b4wuX)WRC Sweden 2019 (https://flic.kr/p/24b4wuX) by Thomas Harrison-Lord (https://www.flickr.com/photos/tomhlord/), on Flickr

[AnttiL]

What exactly did Ogier achieve with the penalty? More enjoyment and better testing road?

[KKS]

Ogier not trying to make new frinds or fans. Took a penalty just because ”didn’t feel like driving in the slush” What a jerk. He made a mistake that was the reason for his startposition. Accept your own mistakes a be a man. My respect to him is 0
He build-up an OgierHaterFunClub! And he is very successful

[Tarmop]

Why one should collect negative feelings in oneself over something that has probably no affect at all to the championship?:D
He could`ve just said fck it, i`ll be back on Sunday for the big points, you go and drive yourselves until then.

[dimviii]

"A good day for us even if, once again, we had to fight with guys who were behind us," said the Belgian driver at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, RTBF's special correspondent in Sweden. the second loop, the road improves after the passage of each car, so we really had to drive to the limit all the time, so we made a small mistake that cost us five seconds. is at the limit like that, we can make a mistake in every corner.We are not safe from a surprise.Here, Kris Meeke was careful enough, there was no trace created for the wheels back, I got carried away and spun, a quick spin, as we only lost five seconds, but those five seconds would have been important Sometimes it takes a bit of luck too, but in the end we got closer to the goal, which is to finish the rally in second place. give everything to finish second tomorrow. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_un-tete-a-queue-un-coup-de-bol-et-un-scratch-neuville-va-tout-donner-pour-finir-deuxieme?id=10147528

[dimviii]

"We wanted to try to work a little bit, because starting in front, we take two seconds per kilometer and we get hot every two turns, it's not very interesting. nothing to lose, we decided to be more or less in the middle of the pack to have references and to try to work on the car, and on the feeling. "

This strategy "annoyed" a little Thierry Neuville and favored Esapekka Lappi ... "It's a Belgian remark, as usual, but even if it goes back in the starting order, so much to leave Esapekka, and that, it was a decision on my part, to help him a little bit, but not necessarily to help him in relation to Thierry, he is in a battle with several pilots and, having done so, we chose this place, obviously. "

"We're used to it, it's not a surprise," Thierry Neuville reacted, "they tried to play it strategically and try to benefit the cars that were behind us by putting Sebastien behind each other. The rules allow it, so why not play this card? It's part of the game, and when we have the opportunity, we'll do it too. So far, and especially last year, we've has rarely had the opportunity, but this year it will play all the cards. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_en-fin-stratege-ogier-a-voulu-aider-un-petit-peu-lappi-ca-fait-partie-du-jeu-tempere-neuville?id=10147539&fbclid=IwAR1meuwkYYDJxtgsT5w07xiVfeXWPWp1kCpm0rgDP VbS932nUftJqkwn2OE

[Allez Andruet]

My respect to him is 0

How many titles does he have to win if six ain't enough for gaining respect?

[wia5958]

That tree is particularly close to the road, I'm surprised it's not been removed. There have been many close-calls on that right-hander after Colin's Crest over the years.

https://youtu.be/X4hXdsVUnp4

Just tell him to watch this Eddie 😋

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The regulations allow the replacement of certain parts of the roll cage. The main hoop for example cannot be replaced but certain other parts of the cage that are not as integral can be replaced. Each accident is unique and the scrutineers / FIA Technical chief decide what can be repaired and what can't. The fix can be carried out by anyone qualified, it does not need to be the cage manufacturer, although in most cases it is done this way, it is not a requirement.

MSportLtd
As we are the manufacturer of our own rollcages we are permitted to repair it - provided it can be done in three hours and the FIA are happy of course!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen confirms rally2:
We continue in Rally2 tomorrow as seventh car on the road. @RallySweden has still something to offer for us. https://t.co/80gsUQecgu

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What exactly did Ogier achieve with the penalty? More enjoyment and better testing road?

Are people not getting this ? What he said was tongue-in-cheek.

It was to help team-mate Lappi by sweeping in front of him.

[N.O.T]

Ogiers attitude will earn him nothing... he is not even a bad guy... bad guys have a following.....

he is that snotty little kid whining and screeching all the time that nobody likes or hangs out in school. When he retires nobody is going to remember his name even if he has 10 titles... he is nothing, nobody respects him apart from a few basic simpletons without any intellectual capacity to judge characters.

its a pity because he is a great rally driver.

[Allez Andruet]

Are people not getting this ? What he said was tongue-in-cheek.

It was to help team-mate Lappi by sweeping in front of him.

I don't quite get it to be honest. How did it help Lappi that it was Ogier and not someone else starting in front of him?

[OHL]

MSportLtd
As we are the manufacturer of our own rollcages we are permitted to repair it - provided it can be done in three hours and the FIA are happy of course!

I see now what you were referencing. Thanks for the quote.

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyp36lYy4k0 Saturday [Passats de canto]
Very very good lines by Huttunen to keep up the momentum through the corners

[KKS]

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/start-list-for-section-7-tc-16d-sunday-17th-february-2019.pdf
Startlist for Sunday. And why superally Suninen start after normal finished Tidemand?

[KKS]

Not a good day for Tannert with officials
https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stewards-decision-no-2.pdf +5min
https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stewards-decision-no-3.pdf +400€
https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/stewards-decision-no-4.pdf

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I don't quite get it to be honest. How did it help Lappi that it was Ogier and not someone else starting in front of him?

Julian Porter said on comms that as Ogier was flat-out he would clear more slush than the previous cars.

[mousti]

https://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/start-list-for-section-7-tc-16d-sunday-17th-february-2019.pdf
Startlist for Sunday. And why superally Suninen start after normal finished Tidemand?Startlist made after standings of Vargasen 2 maybe. Otherwise don't knox..

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[stefanvv]

Startlist made after standings of Vargasen 2 maybe.


Correct. SSSa are of no use for start order decision, and Suninen finished Vargasen.

[stefanvv]

Ogiers attitude will earn him nothing... he is not even a bad guy... bad guys have a following.....

he is that snotty little kid whining and screeching all the time that nobody likes or hangs out in school. When he retires nobody is going to remember his mane even if he has 10 titles... he is nothing, nobody respects him apart from a few basic simpletons without any intellectual capacity to judge characters.

its a pity because he is a great rally driver.

I thought the rally fans don't care about f1 like idealism. But may be I was wrong.

[KKS]

Correct. SSSa are of no use for start order decision, and Suninen finished Vargasen.
Seems to be. But stage 16 wasn't SSS and that rule "start order decides before SSS" apply only when SSS last stage of a leg. Last stage was short but no SSS.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzhH20qXcAImv_R.jpg

[dimviii]

Sunninen crash
https://twitter.com/rallyparadise/status/1096788607065575425

Evans
https://twitter.com/inforallyes/status/1096784223980130305


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DziBvHNX0AUQCoD.jpg

[stefanvv]

Seems to be. But stage 16 wasn't SSS and that rule "start order decides before SSS" apply only when SSS last stage of a leg. Last stage was short but no SSS.

Probably because there is already super special they ignore the next stage.

[dimviii]

Daniel Elena
‏ @DanosElena

Our engineer: He was ripped off his hair after his mistake on the number of spare wheels this afternoon ������ I'm joking, it happens to everyone, even to the best �� tomorrow, we will try everything to hang 6th place ���� #WRC #RallySweden #HMSGOfficial


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzjVp8RW0Aw41Wt.jpg

[COD]

How many titles does he have to win if six ain't enough for gaining respect?

He has won the championships, nothing away from him in that respect. Three of them in without much competition. Still a great driver, but a chilidish crybaby in my eyes, not like Loeb, Grönholm, Sainz or the others

[flykas]

He has won the championships, nothing away from him in that respect. Three of them in without much competition. Still a great driver, but a chilidish crybaby in my eyes, not like Loeb, Grönholm, Sainz or the others
Its confusing here. So is rally about racing or more like a telenovela?:))

[gorganl2000]

Can Ogier change his starting position tomorrow to slot in between Neuville and Lappi like he did today?

[KKS]

Can Ogier change his starting position tomorrow to slot in between Neuville and Lappi like he did today?
technically yes, actually - not

[reff92]

technically yes, actually - not

Reason is why he doesnt is that , from this year you cant earn power stage points when you got penalties on last day

[KKS]

Reason is why he doesnt is that , from this year you cant earn power stage points when you got penalties on last day
13.3.4 Attribution of ‘Power Stage’ points
- For the purpose of allocating points, the Power Stage Classification shall be calculated using the stage timeplus any other time penalty accrued on this stage, including any false start penalty.
- Any crew which does not start the Power Stage in the given order will not be eligible to score Power Stagepoints as per Art. 5.3.2 of the 2019 FIA WRC Sporting Regulations. Such crew may neither detract pointsfrom other drivers.

Order "given" only in last regroup ;)
So if you late into regroup-in all according to rules.

[EstWRC]

Morning guys....such a snice stage, the best we have seen so far IMO

[mknight]

Ogier had a moment after like 1 min in. Let's see if he ripped of some aero.

[EstWRC]

lmao at Grönholm

Colin: "you have to go and do another rally, rally finland"
Marcus: "FORGET IT"

man i so love his stage end comments

[EstWRC]

everybody so slow after Latvala, losing 3 secs with every split, weird

[KKS]

So far seems first on a road have an advantage. Noone near Latvala and Ogier on a pace

[KKS]

Huyndai have 10-12 kph less top speed than Toyota and Citroen

[KKS]

Mikkelsen already drop from a fight

[EstWRC]

go Lappi!

[KKS]

Lappi lift-off throttle on a final straight!

[Rallyper]

Mikkelsen drops time.

[HaCo]

Mikkelsen kicked off the podium

[steve.mandzij]

Mikkelsen already drop from a fightI hoped not, but I guess I should have known!

Go EP!

[KKS]

it's not a Hyundai stage
but it's a VW stage in RC2. Veiby destroying everyone

[Esko]

Veiby continues to dominate RC2, again slightly faster than Huttunen and the gap is now quite safe 15,9 sec.

[dimviii]

Rallirinki / Teemu
‏
Colin: We're hearing Mikkelsen is now 7 down on the split. Looks like the battle is now between you and Neuville.
Esapekka: I don't care.
#ihansama #löysälappi ����
#RallySweden #WRCLive

[rp]

Veiby continues to dominate RC2, again slightly faster than Huttunen and the gap is now quite safe 15,9 sec.

Polo R5 is clearly faster than Fabia. Huttunen was able to put big pressure for Veiby & well done for OC if he is able to handle it.

[KKS]

Clearly that in re-run of fast Likenas Veiby will hold-on him, but on twisty PS everything is possible.

[Sulland]

Rallirinki / Teemu
‏
Colin: We're hearing Mikkelsen is now 7 down on the split. Looks like the battle is now between you and Neuville.
Esapekka: I don't care.
#ihansama #löysälappi 💪💪
#RallySweden #WRCLive

Overthinking things you cant control = waste of time!

Smart man,

[Ds3]

Ogier not trying to make new frinds or fans. Took a penalty just because ”didn’t feel like driving in the slush” What a jerk. He made a mistake that was the reason for his startposition. Accept your own mistakes a be a man. My respect to him is 0

The less, the more quality

[steve.mandzij]

Veiby continues to dominate RC2, again slightly faster than Huttunen and the gap is now quite safe 15,9 sec.It's good to see OC back at it after his unimpressive Skoda Motorsport stint.

[Rallyper]

This one stage loop on Sunday is just crap. At least Sweden solution. Drivers just going trough it looks at to me as computerspectator it seems just boooring!!
Can anyone explain why I feel that way...?

[Oliverk]

This one stage loop on Sunday is just crap. At least Sweden solution. Drivers just going trough it looks at to me as computerspectator it seems just boooring!!
Can anyone explain why I feel that way...?

Good for spectating in Sweden. You can see all 3 stages.

[Rallyper]

Good for spectating in Sweden. You can see all 3 stages.

You have to move to PS. Not in Likenäs area.

But spectators are from all over the world...

[EstWRC]

cruise mode for everyone!

except the TOP3 fighters

[KKS]

Good split by Suninen, road developed

[KKS]

Loeb slower by 3.2 to Meeke, Neuville even slower than Loeb (((

[EstWRC]

whats the beef with hyundai and fast stages, how they cant sorted it

[TypeR]

top speed is 10-12kmh slower

[KKS]

Lappi split.... it's over. Neuville - 3rd

[Rallyper]

Splita are coming much later on wrc.com than wrc+

[mknight]

Splita are coming much later on wrc.com than wrc+

On the michelin site they are as fast as on wrc+ maps and crash less often:
https://michelinmotorsport.com/Evenement/2019-WRC-Rally-Sweden

[Rallyper]

Huttunen stopped... One more finnish victim? Hearing from Becs.

[KKS]

Huttunen stoped? oh what a shame (

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great time and stage win by Evans. Suninen also still showing pace despite his disappointments.

[Esko]

It has been very intersting rally so far, even though today it's more or less Sunday driving exept Lappi/Neuville/Mikkelsen battle from podium positions.
Prior PowerStage there has been 7 different stage winners: Tänak 5; Ogier and Evans 3; Latvala, Suninen and Neuville 2 and Huttunen 1.

[dimviii]

@NOT
Before the points of the Power Stage in the rankings:



Tanak: 42 pts

Neuville: 36 pts

Ogier: 29 pts

Meeke: 21 pts

Lappi: 18 pts

Loeb: 18 pts

Mikkelsen: 12 pts

Latvala: 10 pts

Evans: 10 pts

[Esko]

Really sad for Huttunen to miss 10th Place in overall and 2nd Place in WRC2.

Janne Tuohino passed Mads is now getting that 10th Place and one point, great for him. He has been trimming that brand new WRC car, which he will start to rent for other drivers.

[mknight]

Talking about R5s I am quite impressed by Veiby. Never really believed he is fast enough and didn't impress in Fabia either. But here he was very fast. Granted the conditions were special and he drove some snow rallies with the car before.

On an interesting note he drove the C3 R5 on a few (2?) rallies last year and said he didn't like it and now in Polo he does well. Østberg is basically complaining about the C3 R5 whole weekend.

[Tarmop]

Did the C3 R5 have any tests in the snow before homologation? It`s not fine-tuned for this event...VW is, they have done several outings in it already and this is pretty much their drivers home event...not to mention other variables. It is fast, but i would wait with conclusions about its capabilities and drivers compared to others.

[Integrale]

Julian Porter and wrong translations, part 58.

'Inconduisable' means undriveable, not unbelievable. Really grinds my gears.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Moto G (5) met Tapatalk

[mknight]

Did the C3 R5 have any tests in the snow before homologation? It`s not fine-tuned for this event...VW is, they have done several outings in it already and this is pretty much their drivers home event...not to mention other variables. It is fast, but i would wait with conclusions about its capabilities and drivers compared to others.

Østberg did a snow rally with it just 2 weeks ago.

[Tarmop]

Yes, that weekend was the first outing for that car on snow.
Veiby and Kristoferson both did two + some sprint events, first being in late December.

[Allez Andruet]

Jari Huttunen
‏
@HuttunenRacing

Off road on SS18. #WRC2 #RallySweden Tällä kertaa voittotaistelu päättyi lumihankeen.

https://twitter.com/HuttunenRacing/status/1097072539677937664

Stupid, stupid mistake. Veiby was way too far ahead and no-one was going to catch Huttunen either.

[jparker]

@MSportLtd

Our mechanics are the best in the world and they love a challenge! @TeemuSuninenRac’s Fiesta is back in service and work to repair the rollcage is underway! #WRC #FordPerformance

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1096805648480825345

From what I see, they will fix the roof only. The area of the impact is not protected by the rollcage, unless I'm blind or something.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

whats the beef with hyundai and fast stages, how they cant sorted it

⏱ SS18 Neuville:
I was really fighting with car. It wants to go straight in each corner. I couldn't do more. No chance."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

From what I see, they will fix the roof only. The area of the impact is not protected by the rollcage, unless I'm blind or something.

Read back to last night. They fixed the roll-cage as they are allowed to as manufacturers.

[jparker]

Read back to last night. They fixed the roll-cage as they are allowed to as manufacturers.

I don't see any roll cage pipes at the side of the impact man. Look at the video.

[J-Records]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3UDu5owiog

Action Clip with Rally Sweden 2019

[denkimi]

I don't see any roll cage pipes at the side of the impact man. Look at the video.
have you been sleeping the last two days?

They can fix it as they manufactured the roll-cage...

https://i.imgur.com/om1NcjR.jpg

[Norm75]

I don't see any roll cage pipes at the side of the impact man. Look at the video.

Good grief, are you arguing with Eddie, Msport, or yourself.
Roll cage clearly damaged. If you know what you are looking at you could see that through the side window straight after the accident.
Clearly see it at stage end when Clark interview teemu,
And if either of that was not conclusive, the video of Msport mechanic chopping through the roll cage with an angle grinder should put you in no doubt (Eddie put the still picture up earlier)

[KKS]

Sesks win a stage and up one position overall in JWRC

[jparker]

Good grief, are you arguing with Eddie, Msport, or yourself.
Roll cage clearly damaged. If you know what you are looking at you could see that through the side window straight after the accident.
Clearly see it at stage end when Clark interview teemu,
And if either of that was not conclusive, the video of Msport mechanic chopping through the roll cage with an angle grinder should pu1733t you in no doubt (Eddie put the still picture up earlier)

See the opposite side from the impact in the attached pic. Anyone has better inside view showing the whole shape of the rollcage?

[denkimi]

See the opposite side from the impact in the attached pic. Anyone has better inside view showing the whole shape of the rollcage?
https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1096880801608806400

what makes it so hard to believe that the rollcage is damaged?

[jparker]

https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/1096880801608806400

what makes it so hard to believe that the rollcage is damaged?

OK, I got it now.

[KKS]

Hats off for Marcus!!! Well-done!

[EstWRC]

thank you Marcus for entertaining us!!! smile on my face every time i see him at the stage end

[dimviii]

https://m.twitch.tv/jankristinek

[mknight]

Quick pro tip for Ogier:

- If you don't win in Monte you won't have road cleaning issues in Sweden ;)

[KKS]

oh... stop crying Ogier! It always happen with you in Sweden - cuz you winning Monte! Stop winning! And all things will sortout. ;)

[Simmi]

Ogier throwing shade at Rally Sweden at the stop line. Not a good look.

[Myrvold]

Granted, Østberg isn't a WDC-class driver, but seemingly the commentators just glosses over that the car isn't suited for loose surface at all, and putting the "blame" of Østberg not being in the top on his lack of ability to drive a car that's not to his liking fast enough.

Meh.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good rally Teemu. Better being a fast driver that makes the odd mistake than be just a slow finisher.

[Rallyper]

Latvala took loads of time from Ogier at the end of PS.

[KKS]

Latvala took loads of time from Ogier at the end of PS.
exit to long straight at end ruin all stage time for him (

[EstWRC]

it seems it is the same effect as friday was, the first part of the stage is better for the frontrunners and the second part is better for the late starters.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bit disappointed by Tidemand but not an easy Rally Sweden with the road conditions.

[EstWRC]

And tidemand confirms my words, he was fast as Ogier on the second part of the stage

[mknight]

Yeah overall it's a bit disappointing. As I wrote already when the 2 rally program was announced, I really do hope he has some future plan rather than just "use all money on 2 rallies and hope for sponsors".

[Entertainer]

Yeah overall it's a bit disappointing. As I wrote already when the 2 rally program was announced, I really do hope he has some future plan rather than just "use all money on 2 rallies and hope for sponsors".

It certainly shows that even the most talented drivers need at least half a season of rallies in the car before results start to show.
Living legend Loeb not included. :P

[EstWRC]

the first part now also getting better for late starters

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Solid rally by Meeke.

[Myrvold]

I hope that the stage doesn't get worse at least. It seems like Janne Tuohino have been shuffled out of live coverage (even though he is in the points, and WRC car...). It's not much between him and Østberg. Would be sad to see him losing that point because some halfway random shuffle.

[KKS]

Yeah Evans! :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen slowish but can he make it up later in the stage ?!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2.8s ahead of Evans... close.

[Rallyper]

Finish, most important for Lappi.

[KKS]

ohhhh////

[EstWRC]

shit Lappi

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yesss Lappi !

[Entertainer]

What the hell happened there, Lappi took 3 seconds towards Neuville the last 1-2km?!

[Rallyper]

Lappi took 2,7 secs on Neuville in the end.

[mknight]

Lappi took back 2.7s in last 1.3 km! That's over 2 s/km, quite crazy.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak smashed it again. Wow.

[dimviii]

wow Tanak smashed them.

[KKS]

Congratz Ott!!! Full-house!!!

[Entertainer]

There you go Ott, show us a smile for f-cks sake :D
What a show from Tanak.

[stefanvv]

Don't argue with Tanak here

[KKS]

What the hell happened there, Lappi took 3 seconds towards Neuville the last 1-2km?!
wrong 2nd split. It visually earlier through the ramp that clock checked

[jparker]

and he managed to be in front of Neuville in the general classification and squeezed between Ogier and Meeke for the stage :)
Just perfect (assuming he wanted to give more PS points to Ogier).

[Rallyper]

Very well deserved victory for Tanak and Järveoja!!! Congratulations to them and Mäkinens team!!

[KKS]

Tommi: A bit faster.
Ott: a half throttle

:D

[dimviii]

Tanak : 47 pts

Neuville : 40 pts

Ogier : 31 pts

Meeke : 21 pts

Lappi : 19 pts

Loeb : 18 pts

Evans : 13 pts

Mikkelsen : 12 pts

Latvala : 10 pts

[EstWRC]

YEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

one of his best drives IMO, not saying it was the best victory, but one of the best drives. Absolutely measured, no faults at all, didnt even push to the maximum most of the time. just brilliant

[Oliverk]

YEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAAAA

one of his best drives IMO, not saying it was the best victory, but one of the best drives. Absolutely measured, no faults at all, didnt even push to the maximum most of the time. just brilliant

I don't know if he even broke any piece of aero this weekend.

Ott only now needs better teammates who can take points from Ogier and Neuville when they make mistakes.

[mufcAleksi]

Katsuta stopped in same spot as Pietarinen

[mknight]

I don't know if he even broke any piece of aero this weekend.

Ott only now needs better teammates who can take points from Ogier and Neuville when they make mistakes.

The driver who just did it here was recently fired by Toyota.

[Rallyper]

The driver who just did it here was recently fired by Toyota.

That fired guy just came 2nd overall today.

[KKS]

Katsuta stopped in same spot as Pietarinen
oh.. pitty, for both

[Tarmop]

Meeke is doing great so far, would have been a good assistant in Monte too, without rim issues. Latvala, when not broken, is also up there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I don't know if he even broke any piece of aero this weekend.

Ott only now needs better teammates who can take points from Ogier and Neuville when they make mistakes.

Ott doesnt need any help when driving like this.

And Lappi took points off Neuville anyay.

[KKS]

The driver who just did it here was recently fired by Toyota.
He left by hisself hoping for no1 in a team

[dimviii]

Ziggysony video
https://youtu.be/QcvLhJXz_90

[Rallyper]

What happened to times from wrc2 field?

Edit: times up now.

[Simmi]

I'm not sure any of these assumptions about Lappi are correct but hey - a nice drive from him.

[dimviii]

Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT 58 pts
Hyundai Shell Mobis WRT 57 pts
Citroen Total WRT 47 pts
M-Sport Ford World Rally Team 30 pts

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzm4cr-W0AAIK0l.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dzm4cr6XcAAiI5K.jpg

[Tarmop]

He left by hisself hoping for no1 in a team

What you show publicly, isn`t always how it really is. If the atmorsphere is bad in any (work)place, you can`t take it for ever. And about who is what nr, he said that he is now no. 2, not no. 3.

[mknight]

He left by hisself hoping for no1 in a team

Certianly did not sound like that
Lappi " I see no reason to leave", multiple times and it was said Tommi was angry about some testing session.

[psychemedia]

Here's how the rally went for NEU...

https://ouseful.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/overall_neu_.png

And some notes on how to read that table here: https://blog.ouseful.info/2019/02/15/tinkering-with-stage-charts-for-wrc-rally-sweden/

[KKS]

Certianly did not sound like that
Lappi " I see no reason to leave", multiple times and it was said Tommi was angry about some testing session.
But at same time Tommi make an offer for him for 2019. He rejected, cuz hopeing being no1 driver in Citroen. But now he again "second driver"

[PLuto]

It's good to see OC back at it after his unimpressive Skoda Motorsport stint.

He was very bad also on Monte...

[Tarmop]

But at same time Tommi make an offer for him for 2019. He rejected, cuz hopeing being no1 driver in Citroen. But now he again "second driver"

Oeh...like i said he never hoped to be no. 1 , he was happy with no. 2, instead of being no. 3....and like i said, in every (work)place, when the athmosphere is stressful, you have to make decision, whether to stay or leave, sometimes even if the leaving option is in some cases worse, which it may not be in this case.

[KKS]

Oeh...like i said he never hoped to be no. 1 , he was happy with no. 2, instead of being no. 3....and like i said, in every (work)place, when the athmosphere is stressful, you have to make decision, whether to stay or leave, sometimes even if the leaving option is in some cases worse, which it may not be in this case.
Did you know some extra, inside, info about not good atmosphere for Lappi in Toyota?
Looking to his mojo in Sweden he still unhappy about everything and showing complete indifference

[Tarmop]

The atmosphere between Lappi and a certain team member has been discussed here already last year.

[Sulland]

thank you Marcus for entertaining us!!! smile on my face every time i see him at the stage end

In Finland it would be cool with a "Masterclass" competition with R5s, with old stars.
Grønholm, Solbergs, Märtin, Nasser, PG, Auriol, Delecour, Hirvonen and so on.

[Rallyper]

The atmosphere between Lappi and a certain team member has been discussed here already last year.

Well, Lappi and odriver got big hugs from Tanak/Järveoja. But T/J only handshaked Neuville.

[GigiGalliNo1]

You create a bond after being team mates for some time.

[N.O.T]

Can you guys use full names and not initials like some low life 15 year old F1 retards ????