Rally di Roma Capitale 2018

[Ralph-Mario]

2018 : 10 days... entry list ?

[Essaj]

2018 : 10 days... entry list ?

It's Italy, can't expect too much from them :) but ye it was same sh*t last year.

[PLuto]

According to supplementary regulations, entry list should be published on Wednesday 11.7.

[Jarek Z]

Presentation of the rally with Ucci:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmsxt3WhbRU

[m-ast]

According to supplementary regulations, entry list should be published on Wednesday 11.7.

We are on thursday and without any news of it, I know the championship should have a round in Italy but this organisation is not working good at all

[Jarek Z]

We are on thursday and without any news of it, I know the championship should have a round in Italy but this organisation is not working good at all

It was the same last year. What can we do? Maybe... we should write this entry list ourselves? ;)

I know about the following confirmed entries:
Basso - Skoda Fabia R5
Gryazin - Skoda Fabia R5
Ingram - Skoda Fabia R5
Cerny - Ford Fiesta R5
Avcioglu - Skoda Fabia R5
von Thurn und Taxis - Skoda Fabia R5
Nobre - Skoda Fabia R5
Monteiro - Skoda Fabia R5
Nucita - Abarth 124 Rally...

:)

[harriswrc]

Add Simos Galatariotis- Skoda Fabia R5

[JUF]

Brynildsen - Ford Fiesta R5
Kreim - Skoda Fabia R5
Herzcig - Skoda Fabia R5
Ptaszek - Skoda Fabia R5
Griebel - Peugeot 208 T16 R5 (?)
Pellier - Peugeot 208 T16 R5
Munnings - Peugeot 208 VTI R2

If nothing has changed on their plannings these drivers should be there as well.

[Jarek Z]

Plus a new junior driver from Sweden:
https://www.fiaerc.com/johansson-gets-set-for-erc-junior-u27-bid/

[pucky54]

Brynildsen - Ford Fiesta R5
Kreim - Skoda Fabia R5
Herzcig - Skoda Fabia R5
Ptaszek - Skoda Fabia R5
Griebel - Peugeot 208 T16 R5 (?)
Pellier - Peugeot 208 T16 R5
Munnings - Peugeot 208 VTI R2

If nothing has changed on their plannings these drivers should be there as well.

replace Herczig with one of the Skoda Juniors ;)

[JUF]

replace Herczig with one of the Skoda Juniors ;)

Okay, thanks :). But didn't Herczig plan to do all eight rounds? Are you able to tell me more?

[Ralph-Mario]

http://www.rallydiroma.eu/docs/entry_list_ERC_rally_roma_2018.pdf

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Neubauer avoids to get kicked in the a** again.

Great that Ucci is driving in the Erc field

[dimviii]

so what we expect from Ucci/Campedelli vs erc regulars?

[Jarek Z]

so what we expect from Ucci/Campedelli vs erc regulars?

A victory :)

[dimviii]

A victory :)

from Ucci?

[Jarek Z]

from Ucci?

Ucci, Campedelli or Basso :)

[PLuto]

Neubauer avoids to get kicked in the a** again.

Hermann will do Rallye Weiz in same date...

[Ucci]

http://www.rallydiroma.eu/docs/entry_list_ERC_rally_roma_2018.pdf

22x Škoda Fabia R5......where have all Fiesta's gone??

[Mirek]

To retirement... the car is simply too old already and the new one is still yet to come.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

To retirement... the car is simply too old already and the new one is still yet to come.

That 'old car' is still fast enough for Lukyanuk to win ! ;)

https://www.autoracing.pt/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Lukyanuk-Azores18-podio.jpg

[Mirek]

Yes but teams don't buy a lot of new ones anymore.

[Ucci]

Yes but teams don't buy a lot of new ones anymore.
Do we maybe know which Chassis nb. was sold last and to who (I'm reffering to Fiesta)?

[pucky54]

Do we maybe know which Chassis nb. was sold last and to who (I'm reffering to Fiesta)?

Dom Buckley got a new one in May (269), Armin Schwarz bought a used one from M-Sport in April (244)

[PLuto]

It looks like Paolo Andreucci had big crash on the test today - https://www.riviera24.it/2018/07/bajardo-il-campione-di-rally-andreucci-grave-dopo-un-incidente-con-la-sua-peugeot-da-corsa-565842/

[PLuto]

According to last info, Paolo has chest trauma and broken ribs, stabilised. Anna has some contusions...

[Mirek]

Thanks for the information. A wish a speedy recovery for both!

[dimviii]

quick recovery for both.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes but teams don't buy a lot of new ones anymore.

TBH, I heard that driver's do find the Skoda the easier car to drive, especially when they are new to R5.

The square body and driving position nearer to the windscreen makes it better for seeing the road and placing the car correctly.

[Mirek]

TBH, I heard that driver's do find the Skoda the easier car to drive, especially when they are new to R5.

The square body and driving position nearer to the windscreen makes it better for seeing the road and placing the car correctly.

Strange, I mostly heard the opposite - that Fiesta is the easier car to drive.

[PLuto]

Both cars are quite different. Each driver prefers different style of driving. For somebody is easier/better Fiesta, for others Fabia...

[dimviii]

http://www.lastampa.it/rf/image_lowres/Pub/p4/2018/07/13/Imperia/Foto/RitagliWeb/1c472376-86b5-11e8-b2f5-bc35ca3a3794_2c5074cd-a60c-4bb2-b278-d0f80fc15f03-ksEE-U11101782449906ASD-1024x576%40LaStampa.it.jpg

According to a first reconstruction of the facts Andreucci would have internal injuries due to a crush caused by the impact of the car with a wall which was followed by a retreat of the engine block.

http://www.lastampa.it/2018/07/13/imperia/il-campione-di-rally-paolo-andreucci-ferito-in-un-incidente-trasferito-in-elicottero-al-santa-corona-YuGcQhXXab2DhuIlS5HZ0L/pagina.html

[dimviii]

It is not in danger. The first information circulated on the net had been confused and fragmented and some spoke of very heavy repercussions for the fifty-three-year-old pilot. Andreucci, who was transported to the Santa Corona hospital in Pietra Ligure, took an alleged thoracic trauma, due to which he had difficulty breathing. According to the official website of the Italian Rally Championship, which issued a bulletin at 7 pm, Paolo has always remained conscious, but the violent deceleration has had important consequences on him. His condition, however, does not cause concern. The Tuscan pilot remains hospitalized for observation, but his condition seems to remain stable.
Anna also wounds. Even her co-driver and companion, Anna Andreussi, was first hospitalized in San Remo and then transferred to the Santa Corona of Pietra Ligure. X-ray examinations found suspected fractures in the pelvis. "We're fine," Anna wrote on her Facebook page in the evening to reassure friends and fans. "I unfortunately will have to stay still for a while, but I hope that Paolo can get back in the car as soon as possible".
https://www.quattroruote.it/news/sport/2018/07/13/incidente_per_andreucci_il_toscano_e_la_moglie_a_m uro_durante_un_test.html

[Mirek]

Thanks for the update.

[dimviii]

the wall they crashed.
https://twitter.com/OpensTightens/status/1018044111465611264

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What a shame. Hope he makes a quick recovery.

[Jarek Z]

Sad to hear the news about Andreucci, one of my favourite drivers :(

In the meantime Basso revealed his new livery. Not very beautiful, if you ask me:
https://www.fiaerc.com/revealed-bassos-erc-colours/

[ik1911]

Good News!

https://it.motorsport.com/cir/news/clamoroso-andreucci-sara-regolarmente-al-via-del-rally-di-roma-capitale-con-peugeot-sport-italia/3142956/

[Mirek]

Big surprise!

[Dejan]

Wonderful news!

[Ucci]

Wonderful news!
Andreucci- a hero! Obviously the temptation to drive against ERC regulars was to big.....congratulations and be careful Paolo.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice free online programme: ;) http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/inforally_rally_roma_capitale_2018.pdf

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiGDfZXW0AEB2Ns.jpg

[Jarek Z]

In the meantime Basso revealed his new livery. Not very beautiful, if you ask me:
https://www.fiaerc.com/revealed-bassos-erc-colours/

Basso's car looks better in real life.

https://www.rallylink.it/cms16/images/gallery/roma18_02/24.JPG

[PLuto]

Hubert Ptaszek will not start

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BREAKING NEWS: Team Brettex sign pop idol Justin Beiber to tackle @FIAERC @RallydiRoma.. https://t.co/AXuOUXAJ82

[Ucci]

BREAKING NEWS: Team Brettex sign pop idol Justin Beiber to tackle @FIAERC @RallydiRoma.. https://t.co/AXuOUXAJ82

Even if the guy looks simmilar to Justin, but he is missing tattoos......so no Justin in Rome.....

[Jarek Z]

Even if the guy looks simmilar to Justin, but he is missing tattoos......

And he cannot sing while throwing up...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gpURD9b9Fw

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crews all parking up looking for any shade due to the heat. Ingram will be suffering in his black 'batmobile' ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiecULrX0AErz_P.jpg:large

[Mirek]

Italian crews quite slow in the first run. Let's see how it's in next run and the QS.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gryazin fastest in Qualifying, just 0.1s ahead of Lukyanuk.

Magalhaes 7th & Andreucci only 8th.

[Jarek Z]

Crews all parking up looking for any shade due to the heat. Ingram will be suffering in his black 'batmobile' ...


Lukyanuk, Yates and Ahlin too...

https://www.rallylink.it/cms16/images/gallery/roma18_01/DSC00675.JPG

[Jarek Z]

Some crazy stuff from the qualifying stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AB97-XUiU

[mousti]

Quite a fail by Scandola...

https://youtu.be/k62aVuJSsZM

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[RS]

Some crazy stuff from the qualifying stage:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65AB97-XUiU

Fantastic footage!

Nice save from Ahlin, pretty sure he didn’t do that on purpose.

Note to WRC TV producers: R5 cars don’t have to look boring.

[Ucci]

Andreucci only 8th.

With his condition, and in this heat, if the old guy holds until the end, it will be a miracle.....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did I hear right that Andreucci's replacement co-driver hasnt competed since the early 1990's ??

EDIT - He hasnt competed WITH Andreucci since 1993.

[Jarek Z]

If I undestand Italian correctly, there will be an online streaming from the first stage "ACI Roma Arena" on the website of Acisport today at 18:25.

If someone has access to the Italian TV Rai Sport - there will be a report from the first stage today at 22:15.

There will also be some reports on Sport Italia and AutoMoto TV.

source:
https://www.rallylink.it/cms16/index.php/roma-2018

[Jarek Z]

Starting order:
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/individua_start_time&orderTC0.pdf

[m-ast]

Stewards decision 1, they decide to withdrawn 39 points to Diogo Gago for being not in Roma and runing in Spain the 208 rally cup
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/decision1_steward_rally_roma_erc_2018.pdf

[Mirek]

That's very stupid...

[Jarek Z]

Yeah... do they think it will encourage him do continue the championship? :/

[Jarek Z]

Andreucci chose to drive first on the Saturday's stages:
https://www.fiaerc.com/italian-legend-andreucci-will-lead-erc-field-into-rome-battle/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Andreucci chose to drive first on the Saturday's stages:
https://www.fiaerc.com/italian-legend-andreucci-will-lead-erc-field-into-rome-battle/

"Starting behind Andreucci on Saturday morning is ERC championship leader Bruno Magalhães. He chose to start high up the order after struggling with loose gravel being swept onto Thursday’s Qualifying Stage, going only seventh quickest..."

Interesting. As mentioned by Julian Porter yesterday, the roads will get pretty dirty after many cars and two runs of the stages.

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/CIRally/videos/257705201674137/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

You can watch without FB at:
http://www.acisport.it/it/acisport-service/live-streaming/ita

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ahlin oh my... ha ha !!

Says car is RWD only.. that explains it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

For a street stage I quite enjoyed that..

And the top Italians were spectacular. They almost make their cars dance.

Gryazin fastest and is a top form. He could challenge for the win here.

[itix]

Ahlin oh my... ha ha !!

Says car is RWD only.. that explains it.Ok that the car is RWD but losing 10 seconds on a 1.8 km stage is huge and it still doesn't explain all the others that are losing the same or more... I was expecting pretty much all the R5 drivers within 5 seconds more or less.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ok that the car is RWD but losing 10 seconds on a 1.8 km stage is huge and it still doesn't explain all the others that are losing the same or more... I was expecting pretty much all the R5 drivers within 5 seconds more or less.

The top guys were less than 5 seconds down, many much less. Those losing more had problems. And Åhlin had a spin.

[itix]

The top guys were less than 5 seconds down, many much less. Those losing more had problems. And Åhlin had a spin.Aha, missed his run.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Aha, missed his run.

Yeah, he was all over the place then did a 360 around a tyre barrier and clattering another one after losing the back end.

[Rally Power]

That's very stupid...

It’s more than stupid, it’s an insult. Hope Gago can appeal.

[Mirek]

It’s more than stupid, it’s an insult. Hope Gago can appeal.

It's stupid from both sides. Gago is the first one whose own stupid mistake caused the other stupid decision. How difficult is it to simply send an excuse?

[Rally Power]

It's stupid from both sides. Gago is the first one whose own stupid mistake caused the other stupid decision. How difficult is it to simply send an excuse?

Not sure if an excuse would actually fixed it. What’s shocking is the double standard FIA is using nowadays: Ogier point penalty in Sardegna was suspended and losing a timecard during a rally seems worse than forgetting to withdraw an entry.

[m-ast]

It’s more than stupid, it’s an insult. Hope Gago can appeal.

The code is quite clear in this point, Gago should have excused his absence previously, and know is possible to have a withdrawal of his licence

ARTICLE 9.16 UNAUTHORISED SUBSTITUTION OF ONE COMPETITION FOR ANOTHER
9.16.1 Any Competitor having entered themselves or any Driver having undertaken to drive in any International or National Competition who does not take part in that Competition and takes part in another Competition on the same day at some other place shall be suspended (temporary withdrawal of Licence) as from the beginning of the latter Competition, for such time as the ASN concerned may deem fit.

[Rally Power]

Taking 39 points (Gago Açores win) for an administrative error looks totally unpropotional and should be rectified.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS2 Slow start by Magalhaes.

[dimviii]

SS2 Slow start by Magalhaes.

did you expect to win the stage?

[HFAlex]

Just to whom may be interested in LIVE text infos. You can enable google translator

https://www.rallylink.it/cms16/index.php/roma-2018

[Fast Eddie WRC]

did you expect to win the stage?

No but not 26s down.

[Mirek]

Taking 39 points (Gago Açores win) for an administrative error looks totally unpropotional and should be rectified.

Loosing license as per written rules is even worse, don't You think?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

(1 - Magalhães Bruno / Magalhães Hugo): Very difficult start, the car is too soft. When you go left, right, left, right you just can't push. We have to adjust the antirollbars.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Frustrating waiting for so many times to come through and now a gap in cars and no info ... :(

EDIT Pellier crashed, Scandola stopped with technical issue.

[dimviii]

from rallylink.it



They point out that one of the competitors in transit has stopped and then start again immediately (there are five crews in trial)

Competitors have regularly concluded the test, we look forward to the times. Telephone signal problems at the stop generate "silence time"

Here finally the first times:
Lukyanuk 8: 21.3
Gryazin 8.24.4
Grzyb 8.29.1
Magalhaes 8.29.3
ps3 tempiPaolo Andreucci 8: 31.8

Timekeeping problems should have been solved and now everything should work again
No. 9 Pellier retired for road exit, crew ok

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gryazin missing !!

[dimviii]

from rallylink.it

Gryazin had stopped but left shortly thereafter

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gryazin : Hit in a slow corner the inside, had a small fire & now no power steering. He had to stop briefly in the stage and lost quite a lot of time.

Ingram takes the lead in ERC U28 and up to 4th O/A. Good loop for him. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Note we now have a Ford Fiesta R5 1-2 ahead of the legion of Skoda's ! ;)

[itix]

Ucci is really struggling pacewise. Kind of goes to show how far behind the development of the 208 has fallen because I can't believe it's all driver.

Sure, he crashed in testing and all that which can be a factor... But somehow I feel he should still be more on pace. The rally hasn't changed that much from last year.

[Mirek]

I think that maybe also the Italian scene has somehow stalled through the last few years.

[itix]

I think that maybe also the Italian scene has somehow stalled through the last few years.Maybe my sense of time is foggy but to me it wasn't long ago when Ucci almost won wrc 2 in italy (and would have won easily if he didn't have to stop and close the boot).

Campedelli was on pace before he broke down (whatever that was due to).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pellier off in the trees

https://twitter.com/FIAERC/status/1020621111707488256

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Din5aTWX0AE4IpK.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Campedelli was on pace before he broke down (whatever that was due to).

You mean Scandola. Campedelli is still running and 2nd o/a.

[Jarek Z]

Gryazin : Hit in a slow corner the inside, had a small fire & now no power steering. He had to stop briefly in the stage and lost quite a lot of time.

Typical Gryazin - crazy speed at the beginning and then another crash...

[dimviii]

I think that maybe also the Italian scene has somehow stalled through the last few years.

Campedelli is enough fast vs Luky.
Ucci must affected from the crash,or maybe his healthisnt so good.Big gap to Campedelli for such small stage kms.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Typical Gryazin - crazy speed at the beginning and then another crash...

A bit harsh.. it sounded like a small mistake, but with big consequences.

[itix]

You mean Scandola. Campedelli is still running and 2nd o/a.I probably do yes, although I mixed them up. Campedelli was indeed the one doing well relative the international scene, Scandola was indeed retired but didn't exactly have blazing pace on the one proper stage he completed.

Silly brain of mine.

[RS]

Great shame for Gryazin, I hope he can fight back towards the front.

[RS]

(1 - Magalhães Bruno / Magalhães Hugo): Very difficult start, the car is too soft. When you go left, right, left, right you just can't push. We have to adjust the antirollbars.

Bruno is becoming ERC's Ostberg.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

We're hearing that the second loop will be delayed.
New timetable (to be confirmed):
SS5 - 17.29
SS6 - 18.24
SS7 - 19.14
#FIAERC #RallyDiRoma

[dimviii]

541/5000
This morning a bit of everything happened, fortunately without consequences for the crews, but the many punctures and road exits on all the tests have caused several interruptions of the tests and to reassemble the group there is only one system, lengthen the reorganization of Fiuggi where the machines are now.

The Andreucci exit scheduled for 13:49 becomes at 15:20 then with 91 minutes delay (1 hour and 31 minutes). The times of the next special tests will therefore be:

ps.5 Pico 17:29

ps.6 Roccasecca 18:24

ps.7 Santopadre 19:14

[itix]

Bruno is becoming ERC's Ostberg.Wasn't he always?

To change the subject mid post, why on earth is the rally ended with a super special? So stupid. The rally is 99% decided already on the second to last stage. Not that I think this will be a rally that goes down to the wire but what if it had been?

[Tom206wrc]

Anyway I'm really happy Paolo Andreucci and Anna Andreussi are finally "safe" after their huge crash last week ;)

I wish a good and quick recovery to Anna... :)

[Sulland]

(1 - Magalhães Bruno / Magalhães Hugo): Very difficult start, the car is too soft. When you go left, right, left, right you just can't push. We have to adjust the antirollbars.

So, what should he have said here?
IMO he is just explaining how he finds the car to drive, and what he feels has to be done to improve the car to be able to go faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So, what should he have said here?
IMO he is just explaining how he finds the car to drive, and what he feels has to be done to improve the car to be able to go faster.

It was a quote not a comment.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gryazin on fire
https://youtu.be/gAE0HztGmqM

[giù tutto!]

What happened to Simon Wagner? There is his comments after ss4 but no time.

[dimviii]

FIA European Rally Championship Junior Under 27 drivers Simon Wagner and Catie Munnings were forced to recce Rally di Roma Capitale’s stages well into Friday night, following a break-in to one of their Saintéloc team’s recce cars.

Wagner and Munnings, along with their co-drivers Gerald Winter and Anne Katharina Stein, lost their pace notes, race suits and other equipment in a theft on Thursday before SS1 in Rome.

Saintéloc’s third driver Miika Hokkanen and co-driver Reeta Hämäläinen were not adversely affected, despite their recce car also being involved.

“Our recce car was parked in central Rome and broken into. They stole everything, we have nothing,” explained Wagner on Thursday.

“The laptop is gone, the GoPro camera is gone. They also stole a six pack of water bottles, it’s crazy.”

With their pace notes gone, Wagner and Winter were granted special dispensation by organisers to recce all of the rally’s remaining stages, while Munnings and Stein were permitted to recce all of Saturday’s tests.

This allowed both crews to write replacement notes from scratch by driving through the stages first-hand, rather than relying on video footage, some of which had also gone missing in the theft.

“Our preparation was perfect. I was really happy with everything but now it’s a new game for us. I hope we will survive,” Wagner concluded.

https://www.fiaerc.com/sainteloc-erc-juniors-work-into-the-night-after-theft/

[dimviii]

SEA JETS sponsoring for Luky at this rally

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/927/29644803218_d64118cf82_b.jpg

[giù tutto!]

"Despite being forced to rewrite all his pace notes from scratch with co-driver Gerald Winter last night, Wagner took 6s out of Sesks to make first place his own.

His lead was a brief one, crashing into a wall only two kilometres into SS3 and turning the lead battle into a Sesks versus Sindre Furuseth affair."

https://www.fiaerc.com/sesks-locked-in-erc-junior-u27-battle-with-opel-rivals/

I found the answer now, but how on earth there is his comments after ss4 if he retired on ss3????

[Fast Eddie WRC]

3 cars with punctures... damn.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crazy stage with a big stone causing havoc. Ingram seems to have lost most time. :(

[Jarek Z]

Maybe my sense of time is foggy but to me it wasn't long ago when Ucci almost won wrc 2 in italy (and would have won easily if he didn't have to stop and close the boot).

Andreucci said that he is going to control the situation in the Italian champiosnhip only. I think his only goal in this rally is to make sure that Campedelli and Scandola don't run away from him in the standings of Campionato Italiano Rally.
On SS6 Ucci is slower than Grzyb. I don't think it is possible when he drives 100%.

[dimviii]

Andreucci said that he is going to control the situation in the Italian champiosnhip only. I think his only goal in this rally is to make sure that Campedelli and Scandola don't run away from him in the standings of Campionato Italiano Rally.
On SS6 Ucci is slower than Grzyb. I don't think it is possible when he drives 100%.

Italian classification
http://www.rallylink.it/pdf/classifiche/2018/cir.pdf

[Jarek Z]

Why is Andrea Crugnola so slow? I remember reading somewhere that he was going to be a new Italian talent...

[Ucci]

Crazy stage with a big stone causing havoc. Ingram seems to have lost most time. :(

Indeed, so much flat tyres.....

[Ucci]

Shit, Cempedelli again flat tyre on stage nb.6.....loosing again more than half minute.

[dimviii]

Shit, Cempedelli again flat tyre on stage nb.6.....loosing again more than half minute.

game over for him,no more spare.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Indeed, so much flat tyres.....

Actually 8 with puncures on SS5. Ridiculous.

I'm gutted for Ingram especially, losing 6 places o/a and many U28 points, after a great drive on his comeback.

[dimviii]

flash info (2 - Lukyanuk Alexey / Arnautov Alexey): In the first stage of this loop we found the rear antirollbar was broken. We did not tell anyone so they could start to push. We did it carefully and lost some time, but OK.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ingram fighting back with 3rd & 5th fastest times despite bent steering.

[Tom206wrc]

It's a nonsense about Simon Wagner on Rally-Base website !!! They give him 7' penalty for superrally but he seems to always finish stages(he says something at the end of almost each stage)and seems not to have any problems !! :s :confused:

[stefanvv]

Ingram fighting back with 3rd & 5th fastest times despite bent steering.

on which stages?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

on which stages?

5th on SS6, was 3rd on SS6 but late runners came faster, but he was 3rd on SS7..

[stefanvv]

5th on SS6, was 3rd on SS6 but late runners came faster, but he was 3rd on SS7..

A-ha, I thought late runner doesn't count for ERC.

[itix]

No seriously... is ucci missing his wife or what is the issue? hahaha
He's way slower than I was expecting him to. No major drama though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Disappointing highlights on Eurosport tonight... seemed very brief and also didnt show the cause of all the punctures on SS5.

[Jarek Z]

No seriously... is ucci missing his wife or what is the issue? hahaha
He's way slower than I was expecting him to. No major drama though.

All Italians are slow! Only Basso keeps the Italian flag high.

[TWRC]

No seriously... is ucci missing his wife or what is the issue? hahaha
He's way slower than I was expecting him to. No major drama though.
He has a new codriver, a cracked vertebrae and all of his CIR opponents are behind him, so I think he has no reason to push. Still if he decides to push a bit, the podium is only 8 seconds away from him.

[Mirek]

Stage canceled... So far it's been pretty bad from organization point of view :-(

[tc10a]

Stage canceled... So far it's been pretty bad from organization point of view :-(

Very bad and after the recent eventful rallys very boring event too so long. Should use iconic Sanremo in Italy instead.

The interest in the forum seems also very limited.

[dimviii]

Stage canceled... So far it's been pretty bad from organization point of view :-(

also delay for ss 10


Scheduled time first contestant: 11:02

After the cancellation of the first ps of the day, the ps.9, we remain in the act of knowing the new departure time of what will be the first test of the day, the ps.10 Monastery.

The new test schedule should be 11:30

[dimviii]

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SS 10 will run at 11.30
SS11 will run at 12.10

[Fast Eddie WRC]

First stage cancelled, second delayed... looks like they waited for me to get online ! ;)

[tc10a]

And now no times, only quotes?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BTW I saw this photo of an i20 R5 which I didnt realise was on the rally...

https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37579762_259861851458472_2032889251913269248_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=d6a99ef08d1b052fa884413947b5c179&oe=5C1066B0

Who is this guy, Kevin Gilardoni, and why is he so slow ?

[Jarek Z]

I think that maybe also the Italian scene has somehow stalled through the last few years.

Yes, it's possible, most top Italian drivers are much over 30 or even 40, but it doesn't explain the fact that only last year they were faster than top ERC crews. I have just found my comparison of stage times from last year. Crugnola was wiining stages and this year he is down in the 13th position. So last year the Italians were faster and just one year later so much slower. What has changed since last year?


I was very curious about it, so I made a small comparison of stage times for both championships. In general top 3 drivers from Italian championship (Campedelli, Scandola and Crugnola) were slightly faster than ERC drivers. Only on SS4 and SS5 Lukyanuk was faster than all the Italians.

Kalle Rovanpera was slower than top ERC drivers (Bouffier, Kajetanowicz and Lukyanuk) on nearly every stage.

Comparison between stage winners in ERC and CIR:

SS1 Gryazin 1:47.9, Scandola 1:46.0
SS2 Lukyanuk 8:21.7, Crugnola 8:20.4
SS3 Bouffier 15:09.5, Crugnola 14:52.6
SS4 Lukyanuk 7:34.8, Campedelli 7:44.0
SS5 Lukyanuk 8:17.2, Scandola 8:24.0
SS6 Bouffier 15:14.7, stage canceled for Italian championship

SS7 Kajto 21:15.4, Campedelli 21:07.2
SS8 Kajto 5:12.9, Scandola 5:06.9
SS9 Kajto 6:45.1, Campedelli 6:37.2
SS10 Bouffier 20:26.7, Campedelli 20:13.1
SS11 Suarez 5:02.2, Andreucci 5'00.6
SS12 Bouffier 6:38.1, Campedelli 6'35.4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Andreucci cant be quite the same after the crash, plus a different co-driver.

But Campedelli was right up there til his technical and Scandola wasnt bad. Basso is still pushing Lukyanuk.

[Jarek Z]

He has a new codriver, a cracked vertebrae and all of his CIR opponents are behind him, so I think he has no reason to push.

Yes, the situation in the Italian championship seems very comfortable for Ucci and that is the only thing he cares about:
http://www.rallylink.it/pdf/classifiche/2018/cir.pdf

[Mirek]

So last year the Italians were faster and just one year later so much slower. What has changed since last year?

I think this year it's second time for ERC Last year it was new for them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS12 the long stage is live...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ucci showing the cuts
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dips_JwXsAAyTWK.jpg:large

[Jarek Z]

SS12 the long stage is live...

Yes, over 28 km. Nordgren loses over 30 seconds after a spin. Another bad rally for him...
"It was bad stage for us, we had a spin in a hairpin right after start and had to reverse."

[Jarek Z]

Very bad and after the recent eventful rallys very boring event too so long. Should use iconic Sanremo in Italy instead.

The interest in the forum seems also very limited.

You mean Acropolis and Cyprus were full of fascinating events that generated a great interest?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Luky struggling doing this stage for the first time. Basso faster but very close.

Campedelli fastest.

[Jarek Z]

Do you already see Lukyanuk's and Campedelli's results? I still see Basso as the last competitor that finished the stage 12 :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Do you already see Lukyanuk's and Campedelli's results? I still see Basso as the lat competitor that finished the stage 12 :(

No, but I was just going to say, if someone isnt listening to rally radio they wouldnt know what was going on the results are so slow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Something is going on with Ucci and Grzyb... stopped on tracking.

Ucci crashed & blocked stage ?

Stage 13 stopped.

[RS]

Yes, Ucci crashed. Hope he is ok after his test accident.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The drivers who got stuck behind @AndreucciPaolo in SS13 will be given a nominal time by organisers. That includes Giandomenico Basso.

#FIAERC #RallydiRoma #GotTalentProveIt

[RS]

The drivers who got stuck behind @AndreucciPaolo in SS13 will be given a nominal time by organisers. That includes Giandomenico Basso.

#FIAERC #RallydiRoma #GotTalentProveIt

I hope they decide it soon so we know where everyone stands.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And still no stage times... bit of a joke this rally .

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally on https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/44948-rally-di-roma-capitale-2018/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes, Ucci crashed. Hope he is ok after his test accident.

"I touched slightly with the rear right - irreparably damaging the suspension and then I had to stop there on that special test point. However, everything is ok and I want to emphasize that we are fine."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dit1lQpWkAADWbM.jpg:large

[itix]

https://youtu.be/sszEosFfTLk
Not too terrible video from yesterday. The Tyre change at the end has to be one of the slowest and least organized I've seen in a professional rally.

[Ucci]

Poor Paolino....he survived horrible crash on July 13th, and again had an accident on 13th stage......still, old guy has a huge luck, as his closest opponents (Scandola and Cempedelli) also retaired on this event.

[RS]

Times now up: https://m.rally-base.com/2018/rally-di-roma-capitale-2018/?ssId=4831&ssGroupId=1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Final stage stream at http://www.acisport.it/it/acisport-service/live-streaming/ita

[Mirek]

Why they measure time of passing through three donuts and two chicanes is beyond me.

Anyway do they make roads from ice in Rome? It looks unnaturally slippery.

[focus206]

Why they measure time of passing through three donuts and two chicanes is beyond me.

Anyway do they make roads from ice in Rome? It looks unnaturally slippery.

Bah, it's just a rally not deserving to be in ERC (let alone WRC, as someone already suggests). Plenty of better rallies in Italy, or somewhere else in Europe.

[RS]

Bah, it's just a rally not deserving to be in ERC (let alone WRC, as someone already suggests). Plenty of better rallies in Italy, or somewhere else in Europe.

The drivers seemed to like the roads.

Timing issues not good enough tho!

[dimviii]

impressive that Luky controlled the rally from stage 2 till the end.
Congrats to them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I read a few comments even from Italian's wondering how this young rally already made it into ERC...

[m-ast]

Stewards change yesterday decision on Gago's non prensence and they only quit him 10 points
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/decision3_steward_rally_roma_erc_2018.pdf

[itix]

Why they measure time of passing through three donuts and two chicanes is beyond me.

Anyway do they make roads from ice in Rome? It looks unnaturally slippery.Maybe some very smooth concrete? I have seen it used in italy before.

A Karting track close to where I used to live was half asfalt and half concrete and the step in between them caught people out all the time (including me once or twice).

[Jarek Z]

So Alexey Lukyanuk has shown that the days of dangerous Italian drivers are gone. He was undoubtedly the best driver of the weekend. Congratulations!

But my silent hero is the driver that nobody talks about. Grzegorz Grzyb was driving very consistently throughout the whole rally (all stage times in top 10, most in top 6) and, as a result, he finished 3rd overall! He has a reputation of a fast local driver here, someone who is quick only on the stages he knows by heart. But this season proves that he can be quick also on the unknown ground. Congratulations!

Grzyb's stage times:
https://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=478&crewId=41041&ssGroupId=1

The feeling is great, we finished third on the podium. It was big battle with European and Italian drivers, before the rally we didn't expect this. It's like a dream, thanks to everyone, who is with us.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/854/29644801268_b3dfed31cf_b.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Alexey Lukyanuk has shown that the days of dangerous Italian drivers are gone. He was undoubtedly the best driver of the weekend. Congratulations!

But my silent hero is the driver that nobody talks about. Grzegorz Grzyb was driving very consistently throughout the whole rally (all stage times in top 10, most in top 6) and, as a result, he finished 3rd overall! He has a reputation of a fast local driver here, someone who is quick only on the stages he knows by heart. But this season proves that he can be quick also on the unknown ground. Congratulations!

Grzyb's stage times:
https://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=478&crewId=41041&ssGroupId=1

The feeling is great, we finished third on the podium. It was big battle with European and Italian drivers, before the rally we didn't expect this. It's like a dream, thanks to everyone, who is with us.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/854/29644801268_b3dfed31cf_b.jpg

Agreed. Good to see Lukyank back into the ERC lead as he is clearly the fastest driver and also beating the locals.

Also re Gryzb who is showing great consistency.

Disappointing for Gryazin after making one mistake which ruined his otherwise great performance.

And I have to praise Ingram for his very promising drive, especially after a long break and his lack of 4WD tarmac experience. Only an unlucky puncture prevented a top result and U28 win.

[Jarek Z]

And I have to praise Ingram for his very promising drive, especially after a long break and his lack of 4WD tarmac experience. Only an unlucky puncture prevented a top result and U28 win.

Yes, indeed. Very good performance by Ingram. Plus his first ever (I believe) stage win in the ERC on stage 13 :)
https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-di-roma-capitale-2018/?ssId=4830&ssGroupId=1

[RS]

Indeed good jobs by Grzyb and Ingram as has been mentioned, also Kreim deserves a mention (he did win U28 after all!)

Nordgren again a bit disappointing. He has more experience of his Fabia R5 than Ingram but I suppose less of driving on tarmac overall. Still it was a sensible drive and I hope we see him on Barum too.

Luky had it all under control, he has really matured this year. I wonder whether he can give Kopecky a run for his money on Barum?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I guess Kreim did well after having stuff stolen the day before the rally.

But his times were often quite slow and he was fortunate not to have any punctures like others.

[liposh]

In my opinion the level of competition in ERC is not that high. When watching Grzyb you just have to ask yourself questions about competition. I was spectating Grzyb during last three years of Rally Hustopece and his results are 5th, 10th and 5th. He isn´t slow, but he isn´t some kind of top driver in middle Europe region. And there is no progress in both style of driving seen by eyes and results on paper. This is just his level, which is OK, but how can he be TOP 3 in Europe?

[dimviii]

but how can he be TOP 3 in Europe?

retirements.

[dimviii]

Ιngram small clip

https://twitter.com/OpensTightens/status/1021371581342330880

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Re Gryzb - experience and consistency counts for a lot, especially when you are competing against mostly young driver's...

[RS]

In my opinion the level of competition in ERC is not that high. When watching Grzyb you just have to ask yourself questions about competition. I was spectating Grzyb during last three years of Rally Hustopece and his results are 5th, 10th and 5th. He isn´t slow, but he isn´t some kind of top driver in middle Europe region. And there is no progress in both style of driving seen by eyes and results on paper. This is just his level, which is OK, but how can he be TOP 3 in Europe?

I think the speed at the front (by which I mean Lukyanuk and Gryazin) is pretty good now.. you can't beat Basso and Andreucci at home if you are slow. But the field could do with more depth and consistency.

Ingram is probably the one who has shown the most promise outside of that considering his lack of experience.

[Ucci]

So Alexey Lukyanuk has shown that the days of dangerous Italian drivers are gone. He was undoubtedly the best driver of the weekend. Congratulations

Undoubtedly the times when Italian drivers were totally dominating events on their home soil are gone (for example look at the final results of Mille Miglia 2005: https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/642-rally-1000-miglia-2005/), but obviously you haven't looked close the results of Simone Cempedelli:
1st stage: already on fourth corner rear drive-shaft failure....lost more than ten seconds.
2nd stage: on the first proper stage he immiedately set the best stage time
3rd stage: lost 5 sec compare to Luky
4th stage: set equal stage time as Luky
5th stage: flat tyre
6st stage, flat tyre again, had to retire

On sunday Cempedelli was the fastest over all. So, I do not want to minimalize the pefect victory of Luky (after all I have put him on first place in my pickem!), but Cempedelli is showing already for the last two seasons great speed (he is eaisily the fastest compare to Ucci, Scandola, Crungola, Nucita...), however his finish arrivals are very rare.....for some retirements the reason is technique failure, but he is also very ''crash prone''.

[tommeke_B]

All we can learn from your link of Mille Miglia '05 is that there were almost no foreign drivers, and from those, very few fast ones... ;)

[dimviii]

Campedelli was fast,but as Ucci said he is too much prone to crashes,broken rims,flat tyres etc.
Italian championship is not slow,they are still fast,just too many contenters for various reasons were out of the battle very early at this rally

[PLuto]

Why is Andrea Crugnola so slow? I remember reading somewhere that he was going to be a new Italian talent...

He was one of the biggest italian talents. But did some bad decisions and also lack of money...

[PLuto]

It's a nonsense about Simon Wagner on Rally-Base website !!! They give him 7' penalty for superrally but he seems to always finish stages(he says something at the end of almost each stage)and seems not to have any problems !! :s :confused:

He retired in SS 3 - https://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=478&crewId=41069

[PLuto]

Yes, it's possible, most top Italian drivers are much over 30 or even 40, but it doesn't explain the fact that only last year they were faster than top ERC crews. I have just found my comparison of stage times from last year. Crugnola was wiining stages and this year he is down in the 13th position. So last year the Italians were faster and just one year later so much slower. What has changed since last year?

Last year italians were driving under different conditions (and in different time). This year they must follow all ERC rules.

[PLuto]

Why they measure time of passing through three donuts and two chicanes is beyond me.

Anyway do they make roads from ice in Rome? It looks unnaturally slippery.

Last year, before podium there was road for coming cars. There was plenty of spectators, cars were doing donuts between them. It was toooooooooo dangerous. So thats why they decided to do it as regular stage with all safety measures.

[PLuto]

Stewards change yesterday decision on Gago's non prensence and they only quit him 10 points
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/decision3_steward_rally_roma_erc_2018.pdf

It was difficult job...

[PLuto]

In my opinion the level of competition in ERC is not that high. When watching Grzyb you just have to ask yourself questions about competition. I was spectating Grzyb during last three years of Rally Hustopece and his results are 5th, 10th and 5th. He isn´t slow, but he isn´t some kind of top driver in middle Europe region. And there is no progress in both style of driving seen by eyes and results on paper. This is just his level, which is OK, but how can he be TOP 3 in Europe?

You are out of reality. He is currently one of the fastest drivers in middle Europe, without any doubts. He did great rally, he was fighting with Andreucci and forced him to retire. He did really good job there.

[Mirek]

He retired in SS 3 - https://rally-base.com/crew-profile/crew-detail/?competitionId=478&crewId=41069

The said confusing quotes of him after SS4 were on rally-base...

[PLuto]

Undoubtedly the times when Italian drivers were totally dominating events on their home soil are gone (for example look at the final results of Mille Miglia 2005: https://www.ewrc-results.com/final/642-rally-1000-miglia-2005/), but obviously you haven't looked close the results of Simone Cempedelli:
1st stage: already on fourth corner rear drive-shaft failure....lost more than ten seconds.
2nd stage: on the first proper stage he immiedately set the best stage time
3rd stage: lost 5 sec compare to Luky
4th stage: set equal stage time as Luky
5th stage: flat tyre
6st stage, flat tyre again, had to retire

On sunday Cempedelli was the fastest over all. So, I do not want to minimalize the pefect victory of Luky (after all I have put him on first place in my pickem!), but Cempedelli is showing already for the last two seasons great speed (he is eaisily the fastest compare to Ucci, Scandola, Crungola, Nucita...), however his finish arrivals are very rare.....for some retirements the reason is technique failure, but he is also very ''crash prone''.

Rallysport is not about winning stages, but about to be first in the finish...

[PLuto]

The said confusing quotes of him after SS4 were on rally-base...

I didnt seen it, there was really bad internet connection in service. So maybe some mistake...

[Rally Power]

I think the speed at the front (by which I mean Lukyanuk and Gryazin) is pretty good now.. you can't beat Basso and Andreucci at home if you are slow. But the field could do with more depth and consistency.

You are forgetting Magalhães. This season he seems too focused on consistency and point scoring but we should believe he can be faster than guys like Grzyb or Kreim, with due respect. Surely it was disappointing not see him fighting for the podium in Canarias or Rome (he was P3 on both last year and he usually performs greatly on that kind of stages) and next rounds won’t probably be the best ones for him to shine but he’ll still have plenty of chances to show that he’s more than just a reliable driver.

[Rally Power]

Stewards change yesterday decision on Gago's non prensence and they only quit him 10 points
http://www.rallydiromacapitale.it/docs/decision3_steward_rally_roma_erc_2018.pdf

Still 10 points more than what would be fair…
Many can find that penalties must be fully applied, but we should remember often how hard drivers fight for an extra point on a rally and how unfair is to wipe away that brilliant effort for some administrative reason or a minor sport fault. A fine and a suspended penalty would be enough in such cases.



Bah, it's just a rally not deserving to be in ERC (let alone WRC, as someone already suggests). Plenty of better rallies in Italy, or somewhere else in Europe.

Yep, this rally doesn’t seem to be the best one to represent Italy at the ERC, but an event in Italy (and one in France, btw) should be part of it. Strong local entries are a plus for the series.

[Mirek]

Still 10 points more than what would be fair…

Sorry but in the rules it's written black on white that he shall loose his license for exactly this infringement. Loosing 10 points by the decision of the stewards is much softer penalty and in a way he shall be glad it ended with loosing only 10 points instead of the license. For sure many of us didn't know that this rule even exists but that doesn't change a thing on the fact that what he did is clearly forbidden by the written rules.

[pucky54]

SEA JETS sponsoring for Luky at this rally

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/927/29644803218_d64118cf82_b.jpg

Already since Acropolis :P

[RS]

You are forgetting Magalhães. This season he seems too focused on consistency and point scoring but we should believe he can be faster than guys like Grzyb or Kreim, with due respect. Surely it was disappointing not see him fighting for the podium in Canarias or Rome (he was P3 on both last year and he usually performs greatly on that kind of stages) and next rounds won’t probably be the best ones for him to shine but he’ll still have plenty of chances to show that he’s more than just a reliable driver.

I would say his results are consistent but not his speed. On some stages he is at the front but others he is way off. I don't know what the problem is, clearly he and the car are capable of it.

I still think he is a valuable addition to the ERC but I would like to see him fight for the championship on speed and not just reliability.

[Jarek Z]

Lukyanuk says that he didn't expect this win. I guess he thought that the Italians would be faster:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-qa-alexey-lukyanuk-4/

[Rally Power]

For sure many of us didn't know that this rule even exists but that doesn't change a thing on the fact that what he did is clearly forbidden by the written rules.

Yep, rules are needed but they must be applied sensibly. In any democratic state, warnings, fines and suspended penalties are used on the legal system; shouldn’t the FIA be equally tolerant?


I still think he is a valuable addition to the ERC but I would like to see him fight for the championship on speed and not just reliability.

Amen. Running on a tight budget and a rally to rally basis probably doesn’t allow him to risk a bit more.

[Mirek]

Yep, rules are needed but they must be applied sensibly. In any democratic state, warnings, fines and suspended penalties are used on the legal system; shouldn’t the FIA be equally tolerant?

Man, let's not start in this way. It has nothing to do with democracy. Every legal system has given range of penalties for most of the infringments and no, for most of them You don't get any warning or fine first.

We can discuss if such rule is need and if it's sensible to change it or cancel. But there is no point saying that Gago suffered some damage from wrong FIA decision. No, he suffered from his own mistake and the FIA gave him lesser penalty than what is written in the rules. They could have been stricter if they wanted.

PS what does it mean sensibly? It's forbidden to enter two event at the same time without withdrawing or excusing self from one of them and there is clearly given penalty for that. There is no ambiguity, no freedom in explanation of such rule and nothing to bend there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

[QUOTE=dimviii;1186675]Ιngram small clip

Better angle :cool:

https://twitter.com/ChrisIngramGB/status/1021713708890968064

[Co-driven]

I guess Kreim did well after having stuff stolen the day before the rally.

But his times were often quite slow and he was fortunate not to have any punctures like others.

I think it was Munnings and Wagner who had the materials stolen.

[PLuto]

I think it was Munnings and Wagner who had the materials stolen.

Yes, it was Catie and Simon.

[Steve Boyd]

Man, let's not start in this way. It has nothing to do with democracy. Every legal system has given range of penalties for most of the infringments and no, for most of them You don't get any warning or fine first.

We can discuss if such rule is need and if it's sensible to change it or cancel. But there is no point saying that Gago suffered some damage from wrong FIA decision. No, he suffered from his own mistake and the FIA gave him lesser penalty than what is written in the rules. They could have been stricter if they wanted.

PS what does it mean sensibly? It's forbidden to enter two event at the same time without withdrawing or excusing self from one of them and there is clearly given penalty for that. There is no ambiguity, no freedom in explanation of such rule and nothing to bend there.
The reason for this FIA rule is that entering one event & then not turning up because you have entered another event is a breach of contract in civil law. If you look at the rules of any ASN that adopts the FIA code you should find that this is also a national rule. It has been a national rule in the UK for as long as I can remember & that's about 45 years.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes, it was Catie and Simon.

The ES commentator said Kreim.

They must've heard him constantly complaining about lack of confidence in the pacenotes and thought his own were stolen...

[PLuto]

The ES commentator said Kreim.

They must've heard him constantly complaining about lack of confidence in the pacenotes and thought his own were stolen...

:-D

[Rally Power]

PS what does it mean sensibly? It's forbidden to enter two event at the same time without withdrawing or excusing self from one of them and there is clearly given penalty for that.

Not in the mood for discussions but I’ll try to be more clear: forget Gago’s case for a minute; is it right to penalize with points or time a driver for an administrative mistake or even a minor sport fault? IMO it isn’t; results fairly and bravely conquered on the stages shouldn’t be questioned for any latter reason, no matter what the rule book says.

[Mirek]

As explained before. This situation is being seen as a breach of contract, i.e. not a minor administrative mistake.

[Jarek Z]

If someone has access to the Italian TV MotorTrend he can watch rally report tonight:
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-rally-di-roma-capitale-highlights-on-italian-tv-tonight/