[WRC] Rally Argentina - 26/29 April 2018

[Andre Oliveira]

Argentina added to Teemu Suninen’s season

[Bartolbia84]

Veiby Škoda Fabia R5

[AnttiL]

Østberg was planning on doing this with his own car. And Al-Attiyah could start his season here?

[pantealex]

Should be Greensmith, Bulacia and Rovanperä for WRC2

[Allez Andruet]

Should be Greensmith, Bulacia and Rovanperä for WRC2

Wasn't it so that Kalle was going to drive Gardemeister's Fabia in Argentina?

[AnttiL]

Wasn't it so that Kalle was going to drive Gardemeister's Fabia in Argentina?

I don't remember hearing this. But if Skoda works like WRC Factory teams, they will have two factory cars in Argentina, as they had two in Mexico as well, as the service equipment will travel directly from Mexico to Argentina.

[pantealex]

Veiby is driving Weivers car, not factory one.
Don´t know about Kalle.

[Essaj]

@rallyargentina

��@TGR_WRC confirmado para #RallyArgentina2018 con @JariMattiWRC @OttTanak y @EsapekkaLappi. Tambien
��@SKODAMotorsport estará con @PontusTidemand y @KalleRovanpera Además por el WRC2
��@CodasurFIA el paraguayo Diego Dominguez. @marcosligato afuera ��http://bit.ly/2IIO7dq

So it's Pontus and Kalle with factory Skodas

[AnttiL]

https://rallysportmag.com/injury-forces-marcos-ligato-to-miss-his-farewell-rally220318/

Ligato was supposed to do the event in a Fiesta WRC but has to cancel due to an injury. Just makes me wonder if the rumors of him being in the third M-Sport Fiesta were true...all of a sudden Suninen gets the seat and then we hear that Ligato has to cancel :D

[KiwiWRCfan]

The opening Super Special has been moved from city of Cordoba where held in recent year to the town of Villa Carlo Paz. The SSS remains at 1,9km in length so no change to total competitive distances. https://twitter.com/rallyargentina/status/976825809037119489 Crews will have significantly less touring to and from Service Park with this new SSS location, approx. 45 minutes less touring each way.
It appears this might just be a one year change as a result of work happening in area of the Cordoba SSS this year.

[AnttiL]

The opening Super Special has been moved from city of Cordoba where held in recent year to the town of Villa Carlo Paz. The SSS remains at 1,9km in length so no change to total competitive distances. https://twitter.com/rallyargentina/status/976825809037119489 Crews will have significantly less touring to and from Service Park with this new SSS location, approx. 45 minutes less touring each way.
It appears this might just be a one year change as a result of work happening in area of the Cordoba SSS this year.

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Argentina-2018/Villa-Carlos-Paz

[Gregor-y]

That map doesn't have a scale displayed but does it really take 45 minutes to get to the center of Cordoba from service? Okay, full screen shows the scale and it's farther than I thought but traffic must still be a nightmare.

It looks like a twenty minute walk from service to the super special now, which is nothing to complain about considering this rally's previous attempt at SSS spectacle

[KiwiWRCfan]

That map doesn't have a scale displayed but does it really take 45 minutes to get to the center of Cordoba from service? Okay, full screen shows the scale and it's farther than I thought but traffic must still be a nightmare.

It looks like a twenty minute walk from service to the super special now, which is nothing to complain about considering this rally's previous attempt at SSS spectacle

Distance from Villa Carlos Paz to Cordoba is not that great. Approx. 2/3 distance is good highways at open road speeds. Last part of trip from edge to centre of Cordoba city involves many intersections and lots of traffic lights, this was the part that requires most time. Yes it would be possible to walk from Service Park to the new SSS.

[ZequeArgentina]

https://rallysportmag.com/injury-forces-marcos-ligato-to-miss-his-farewell-rally220318/

Ligato was supposed to do the event in a Fiesta WRC but has to cancel due to an injury. Just makes me wonder if the rumors of him being in the third M-Sport Fiesta were true...all of a sudden Suninen gets the seat and then we hear that Ligato has to cancel :D

Yes it was true.
Ligato had announced retirement after getting last year national championship, and he used first rallies of National champ fr triaining for the Fiesta WRC. He also entry to last round of Southamerican Championship renting a Fiesta R5. He did the friday short superspecial, but was unable to start due to high pain and retired before starting on Saturday.

He had trained a lot, and his sponsors had sorted up the M-Sprt rent but his "dream" retirement was not feasible

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map WRC Rally Argentina 2018 is online ► http://bit.ly/2C7KJpA

[KiwiWRCfan]

interesting posting on Rally Argentina website in Spanish lists WRC manufacturer drivers then talks about Ole Christian Veiby as a private entry prior to mentioning WRC2 manufacturer drivers.
Could OCV be driving the MSport car previously intended for Marcus Ligato ?
http://www.rallyargentina.com/cerro-el-periodo-de-inscripciones-para-tripulaciones-wrc-en-el-rally-argentina#

[Essaj]

interesting posting on Rally Argentina website in Spanish lists WRC manufacturer drivers then talks about Ole Christian Veiby as a private entry prior to mentioning WRC2 manufacturer drivers.
Could OCV be driving the MSport car previously intended for Marcus Ligato ?
http://www.rallyargentina.com/cerro-el-periodo-de-inscripciones-para-tripulaciones-wrc-en-el-rally-argentina#

Thought Suninen was driving the left over Fiesta? Veiby is using Wevers Sport Fabia in Argentina, but I have no idea why it's mentioned separately before the other wrc2 entries.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Thought Suninen was driving the left over Fiesta? Veiby is using Wevers Sport Fabia in Argentina, but I have no idea why it's mentioned separately before the other wrc2 entries.
You are correct Essaj. Found this on Wevers Sports facebook page https://www.facebook.com/WeversSport/posts/1821924857860192

[Teme]

Entry list is out:

http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Entry-List-RA18-FIA-approved-3-4-18.pdf

No Al-Attiyah but a decent amount of R5s.

[AnttiL]

Seems like a dry year for private WRC entries.

[pantealex]

Seems like a dry year for private WRC entries.

Monte and Sweden both had private WRC´s.
Corsica has 3 (all slow, but still WRC is WRC)
Only long hauls totally dry.
Last year was weaker...

[RS]

Seems like a dry year for private WRC entries.

And again a weak WRC2 entry. Hopefully things improve when they come back to Europe.

[AnttiL]

Monte and Sweden both had private WRC´s.
Corsica has 3 (all slow, but still WRC is WRC)
Only long hauls totally dry.
Last year was weaker...

I'm talking about guys like Østberg and Henning Solberg, maybe even Bertelli and Kremer, and also we must count Suninen into this category from 2017.

And since you're counting in 2016 WRC's, you must remember we had WRC Trophy last year with at least one car in almost every rally. Last year Corsica had two private hobbyist WRC's.

[AnttiL]

My route preview: https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/04/09/rally-argentina-2018-route/

[Sub_Skoda]

Seems like a dry year for private WRC entries.

It's the same in WorldRX... It's sad to see that. EuroChamps are for privaters and "future pro", WorldChamps are, now, only for pros and official teams with private drivers (Bouffier with M-Sport for example).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@DMack_Tyres
Great to see Dan back in action next week. Rally Argentina was a special event for us last year and we wish the lads @ElfynEvans and @danielbarritt all the best of luck next week. https://t.co/Eo2XU7no6W

[dimviii]

Making use of one of its homologation jokers, the team will release an upgrade to the car's rear axle that engineers at the team's Satory headquarters say will improve performance across a wider range of conditions.

"The team works tirelessly every day to improve and refine our C3 WRC a little bit more," Citroën Racing boss Pierre Budar explained.

"The new rear axle geometry introduced for this rally aims to provide even more consistent handling, regardless of changes in the road surface and therefore generate greater confidence for the drivers."


http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/apri-2018/citroen-chassis/page/5385--12-12-.html

[mknight]

It might be that while Citroen is making the car more allround (ref. Breen in Sweden) Ford and Toyota are beating it in terms of pure speed (ref. Meeke in Corsica). I don't mention Hyundai as their performance so far this year is very inconsistent.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

From PlaneteMarcus:

Evo engine on the i20WRC from Rally Argentina

Just like Citroën Racing with the chassis of the C3WRC, Hyundai Motorsport will burn a joker from the WRC Argentina rally with the approval of an engine evolution (distribution system) of its i20WRC.

Thierry Neuville, suffering from engine problems at the very end of the Tour de Corse rally, will take advantage of this improvement to try to counter the dominance of the M-Sport / Ogier package at the start of the season, which has three wins in four rallies. Andreas Mikkelsen and Dani Sordo will also be eligible for these new performances, but it will be until next month for Hayden Paddon (absent from Sweden) to find the tub of the i20WRC where the Korean team will line up four cars on this rally.

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/Krisse_Sohlberg/status/988039568199966721


I have heard that the roads are already before recce in very rough condition as here has rained a lot in the winter period. Forecast shows lots of rain for Wednesday so Seb might not loose anything if this rain moves forward.. #wrc

[A FONDO]

I have heard that the roads are already before recce in very rough condition as here has rained a lot in the winter period. Forecast shows lots of rain for Wednesday so Seb might not loose anything if this rain moves forward.. #wrc

Winter is yet about to begin in the southern hemisphere....

[dimviii]

Veiby testing at Argentina
https://twitter.com/RafaMSport/status/988466116484829186

[KiwiWRCfan]

video of Q&A from Citroen media session in Buenos Aires ahead of Rally Argentina
Some very interesting comments from Kris Meeke about speed/safety/aerodynamics from about 6 minutes
Session is in English with Spanish translations
https://www.facebook.com/daniel.caamano.92/videos/10215979585787354/

[Sulland]

It's the same in WorldRX... It's sad to see that. EuroChamps are for privaters and "future pro", WorldChamps are, now, only for pros and official teams with private drivers (Bouffier with M-Sport for example).

This development is a wanted target for FIA.
Cars are too expensive and to advanced to keep running without the data engineers!

Too bad. Rallying has always been the motorsport where privateers could challenge the pros on a good day.

[dimviii]

wrc 2 test
https://youtu.be/nkqGfwTrflg

[racerx1979]

video of Q&A from Citroen media session in Buenos Aires ahead of Rally Argentina
Some very interesting comments from Kris Meeke about speed/safety/aerodynamics from about 6 minutes
Session is in English with Spanish translations
https://www.facebook.com/daniel.caamano.92/videos/10215979585787354/

Good watch. A few awkward moments when asked about different chassis around 11:00 min mark.

[EstWRC]

so, Ogier hasnt had a win here and the last time Ford won this event was in 2002 with Sainz.

it will be very interesting to watch Evans performance with Michelins compared to last year, his starting position is basically the same (last year 9th on the road now 10th)

Lappi and Latvala have excellent starting positions to make a very good result but Toyotas reliability is a big question mark. Sordo and Breen have also a good starting pos. Remember Sordo had a very good performance in Mexico.

[Watson]

Good points EstWRC. It should be an interesting one. The question will be how much of a disadvantage Ogier, Neuville and Tanak will have after the first day. We might see a crazy result with an all second and third driver podium like Lappi, Breen, Evans. You'd expect Sordo and Mikkelsen to be strong but they have often put themselves into good positions just to mess it up later on. Meeke will either be pretty average or fight at the top and then lose it again. Latvala has something to prove. If there are a lot of casualties maybe Suninen can have a strong points finish.

I can't wait.

[racerx1979]

Will be a good event. Few storms early in the week. Might get some rain during the week, but we will know more as we get closer. Storms moving in and out

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Will be a good event. Few storms early in the week. Might get some rain during the week, but we will know more as we get closer. Storms moving in and out

Could be good news for road-opener Ogier ! ;)

[EstWRC]

Tänaks thoughts about El Condor in opposite direction https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/988861507361542146

[Rally Power]

Could be good news for road-opener Ogier ! ;)

It could, but if it stays dry Friday and rains Saturday and Sunday we'll probably have complaining Ogier back...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It could, but if it stays dry Friday and rains Saturday and Sunday we'll probably have complaining Ogier back...

If he's badly affected and keeps being asked why he's slow, what's he supposed to say ?

[N.O.T]

If he's badly affected and keeps being asked why he's slow, what's he supposed to say ?

nobody asks him why he is slow... he just complains without being asked... for high function people that is quite obvious... but as i said for high functioning ones....

[RS]

For those in the UK without AllLive, there are a good number of stages live on BT Sport this weekend. Opening superspecial, plus two proper stages on Saturday and two on Sunday.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mud and fog during the recce in the SS10 #WRC #RallyArgentina https://t.co/JlcmPruWfS

[Watson]

According to accuweather there won't be any rain until Friday 8 p.m. local time anymore. The rain on Friday is only supposed to last for about two hours as well.

[PLuto]

Shakedown is running - https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-argentina-2018/?ssId=4642&ssGroupId=3

[AnttiL]

Meeke and Breen fastest on the first round. C3 upgrades working?

[EstWRC]

Meeke was mega fast at corsica shakedown too

1st round

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbtJ23xW4AAEDNB.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

just noticed that you can now watch different runs separately on EWRC, great feature!

https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/44259-ypf-rally-argentina-2018/?run=2

[AnttiL]

just noticed that you can now watch different runs separately on EWRC, great feature!

https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/44259-ypf-rally-argentina-2018/?run=2

suggested by yours truly (https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC/status/981985065382174722) ;)

[EstWRC]

Meeke again very fast

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Colin Clark
Morning rally friends from an overcast but sticky Carlos Paz. Conditions looking very interesting for the weekend. Sunny day one and then storms for two and three .. https://t.co/cAFrU9T6EM

[KiwiWRCfan]

suggested by yours truly (https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC/status/981985065382174722) ;)

I remember you making that suggestion during Corsica SD

[er88]

Meeke and Breen fastest on the first round. C3 upgrades working?It's just shakedown. Plus new upgrades aren't going to make the car necessarily faster, but the stability should give more consistency.

[N.O.T]

Meeke and Breen fastest on the first round. C3 upgrades working?

Nice conclusion after the first pass in the shakedown.... you reach british levels of basic thinking....

is there some kind of competiton in this forum who is going to make the most retarded post in here ?

I am still going to win no matter what you try you worthless kids...

[AnttiL]

Nice conclusion after the first pass in the shakedown....

Well, second pass as well. My point was that they could have also wrecked the explosive speed of the car with the update or that the drivers would have perhaps needed time to get used to the new parts.

[Watson]

is there some kind of competiton in this forum who is going to make the most retarded post in here ?


If everybody in this forum is such an idiot that you don't gain anything from taking part in it, why don't you do yourself a favour and go somewhere else?

[dimviii]

I am still going to win no matter what you try you worthless kids...

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31301991_10155561293895678_2356538002857000960_o.j pg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeFYGI5MR8aACE8a2Uts5tFQVG0bqp2sxqqP Yppu-Ekj3CVWlLJmKl6r0fLyT_CwpPThB_ytH8d0orLGkS4mcwVL_06 R94iqptZoULex1H7KlQ&oh=0af0e77d38d853ee0a40440abe54c395&oe=5B9A5FFA

[N.O.T]

is that for hyundais mid-day lunch ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Close times... 0.5s now covering the Top 7.

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti Latvala

For this rally, Tommi Mäkinen told us to put the pedal to the metal. I like pretty much this advice
The target is clearly to be on the podium this weekend.
#WRC #TOYOTA #RallyArgentina

[AnttiL]

Shakedown is just shakedown, but...Evans is again totally lost

Meeke is fastest on every round by at least 0.5 seconds.

[EstWRC]

Meeke, Tänak, Ogier seem to be finished for today. Hyundai guys and Breen going for a 4th run.

[dimviii]

Latvala faster now

[mknight]

Jari-Matti Latvala

For this rally, Tommi Mäkinen told us to put the pedal to the metal. I like pretty much this advice
The target is clearly to be on the podium this weekend.
#WRC #TOYOTA #RallyArgentina

Reminds me of the "famous last words" from Citroen at precisely this time last year.

(Matton and Meeke said how the goal now was to win rallies and go flat out and not think about championship. 3 rallies and 4 crashes later Meeke got dumped for Poland.)

Back to Latvala. While not as crazy as Meeke this still smells like either podium or big crash.

[AnttiL]

12 months ago Latvala was also fastest on the shakedown and Evans slowest.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@Craig_Breen
2nd fastest in shakedown for @rallyargentina - we are back !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbtzIYpXkAACed1.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ominous looking skies...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbt0yp_WAAAV6qY.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuCJ8nXUAA0y1H.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuCKvMW4Aw_C_D.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuCLYfX4AEtXI0.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuCNwfX0AAh6nm.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbt8_vFWkAA1QcA.jpg

https://twitter.com/rallyargentina/status/989527981570822145
https://twitter.com/danielbarritt/status/989522019317354496

[steve.mandzij]

Jari-Matti Latvala

For this rally, Tommi Mäkinen told us to put the pedal to the metal. I like pretty much this advice
The target is clearly to be on the podium this weekend.
#WRC #TOYOTA #RallyArgentinaThe last time Tommi gave him advice he won in Sweden. This plus his good time in Corsica before he crashed gives me a good vibe.

[EstWRC]

Rallirinki / Teemu
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Jari-Matti Latvala must like @rallyargentina and its shakedown. He was the fastest driver today at the shakedown stage. The previous he set the fastest time on a shakedown was - last year in Argentina.


https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/989542545159057410

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fath4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31326794_946076162230394_4967479275624746810_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=29e1cd0f64372503a4555f9e3b5389f4&oe=5B980CC7
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more
https://www.facebook.com/pg/michelinmotorsport/photos/?tab=album&album_id=945864338918243



hyundai video
https://youtu.be/Wh5eH8oyquA

[EstWRC]

lol at that shirt!

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fath4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31318045_1680917758654786_7463946144406568960_n.jp g?_nc_cat=0&oh=fec83a7bf2dee2fb21589850e971c72d&oe=5B966FBF
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https://www.facebook.com/timoanisphotography/photos/a.1678872595525969.1073741923.171185022961408/1680917751988120/?type=3&theater

[dimviii]

https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-rally-argentina-press-conference-1

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NYNiCFsrGI

[dimviii]

michelin video
https://youtu.be/ltCSuw8lma0

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti Latvala has ditched his World Rally Championship title challenge and will now focus on winning individual events in 2018.

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/135608/latvala-ditches-title-challenge-aims-for-wins

[Andre Oliveira]

Starlt list to tonight: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/44259-ypf-rally-argentina-2018/?leg=1

[mknight]

Jari-Matti Latvala has ditched his World Rally Championship title challenge and will now focus on winning individual events in 2018.

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/135608/latvala-ditches-title-challenge-aims-for-wins


Extremely funny when you compare with this:

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/129181/meeke-abandons-strategy-for-rest-of-2017

Note only that there is only 1 day difference between the dates.

[Watson]

Extremely funny when you compare with this:

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/129181/meeke-abandons-strategy-for-rest-of-2017

Note only that there is only 1 day difference between the dates.

Even funnier is that before the season started he was going on and on about how he wants to emulate Ogier, not focusing on winning but just making the most of the events. A couple of events in and he does a 180. His inability of just sticking to a plan is further proof that he is mentally too unstable to be champion.

[EstWRC]

what a joke of a stage again

[spiderem]

[QUOTE=Watson; His inability of just sticking to a plan is further proof that he is mentally too unstable to be champion.[/QUOTE]

strong words but true...

[mknight]

what a joke of a stage again

I like it, much better than the likes of Germany last year or the one in Mexico where Neuville had the car issues. Infinitely better than that abomination in Mexico city in 2017.

[EstWRC]

Suninen faster than Evans on this type of stage, thats surprising

[T16]

Suninen faster than Evans on this type of stage, thats surprising
Matt Wilson won a super special once too. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

[EstWRC]

im not reading too much into it but Suninen hasnt been the best one on super specials..but still fastest so far!

[mknight]

Think Evans was good on these tarmac stages with gravel tires last year mostly because of DMACKs. For example in Poland he won every single one of 3 runs.

[EstWRC]

and Lappi finally beats him by 0.1 secs

[steve.mandzij]

Jari-Matti Latvala has ditched his World Rally Championship title challenge and will now focus on winning individual events in 2018.

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/135608/latvala-ditches-title-challenge-aims-for-winsSlightly deceiving title there: he's focusing on wins to later possibly mount a challenge. Still, it's alarmingly hopeless from him :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke was visibly quick and fastest so far despite some mistakes.

[mknight]

Speed reading from the tables before first corner:

Evans 124
Breen 127
Latvala 134
Lappi 139
Meeke 114? , looked like different line in first corner
Mikkelsen 127
Tanak 118
Neuville 127
Ogier 132

[EstWRC]

So Neuville overnight leader, tomorrow the fun starts...good night guys.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbvoNXBVwAASxTD.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quite interesting for a SSS, seeing the different lines and varying agression in a compact and mixed surface stage.

[N.O.T]

Speed reading from the tables before first corner:

Evans 124
Breen 127
Latvala 134
Lappi 139
Meeke 114? , looked like different line in first corner
Mikkelsen 127
Tanak 118
Neuville 127
Ogier 132

the guy with the speed gun cannot use it properly... it would be nice if you used your brain before posting stupid numbers to see if they are realistic...

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/fotosjmb/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2127771593930489

[dimviii]

#11 flag Breen Craig - Martin Scott icon Citroën C3 WRC 0:10
Late at TC

[PLuto]

Starting order for today - https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-argentina-2018/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=886

[irish_tiger]

#11 flag Breen Craig - Martin Scott icon Citroën C3 WRC 0:10
Late at TC

Late in to TC at first stage ??? any more information ?

[EstWRC]

Torstein Eriksen
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STAGE NOTES #RALLYARGENTINA 2018 �� SS2/6 Las Bajadas - Villa del Dique (16.65 km)

Fast rally opener where a "push" is necessary to get a good stage time. A few slow corners in the middle section. If no wind, dust can be a morning problem! #WRClive #CodriverEriksen @OfficialWRC

[PLuto]

Late in to TC at first stage ??? any more information ?

More precise info (https://rally-base.com/2018/rally-argentina-2018/penalty/)

11 Breen Craig Martin Scott IRL / GBR Citroën C3 WRC 0B 10 s Late in TC

0B was regrouping out

[Rally Hokkaido]

Trouble starting the car?

[EstWRC]

Torstein Eriksen
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@TorsteinEriksen
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SS3/7 Amboy - Yacanton (33.58 km)

Demanding stage with changing character. The stage winner will be the one who keeps it up towards the end after a tricky, narrow and rough middle section. Risk of puncture? Yes! �� #WRClive #RallyArgentina #CodriverEriksen @OfficialWRC

[dimviii]

FRI 08:06 - TYRE CHOICES FOR TODAY
All the WRC field have taken five soft Michelin tyres

Colin Clark
‏
Good morning Rally friends from SS2 stop line. Clear skies above is but a wee bit chilly this morning. Seems to be a little bit of dampness still on the road - maybe not enough to help Ogier. Temps of around 30c by this afternoon

[EstWRC]

an we are gooooo guys!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Colin Clark @voiceofrally

Good morning Rally friends from SS2 stop line. Clear skies above is but a wee bit chilly this morning. Seems to be a little bit of dampness still on the road - maybe not enough to help Ogier. Temps of around 30c by this afternoon.

[EstWRC]

Ott slower than Ogier +0.8 in spl1

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen +0.1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak 4s down now, Mikk 5s.

[er88]

Wrc All live all over the place so far

[EstWRC]

Neuville 8 secs slower than Ogier in finish

[EstWRC]

a spin for Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak half spun

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wrc All live all over the place so far

Its rubbish... some splits and times not coming in properly and no driver interview sound. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak now +26s !

[EstWRC]

again a shitty start for Ott..already 23 seconds down. man he never starts good


stupid spin really

[dimviii]

Meeke Kris - Nagle Paul
rear left puncture

[er88]

Kris did well not to lose more time if he has a puncture

[dimviii]

FRI 08:33 - DUSTY
Drivers are complaining of hanging dust. The stages are dry and there's not much of a breeze out there at the moment, that's reducing visibility quite a bit for the cars further down the order.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The Michelein guy was saying earlier that these tyres can run a few kms on a puncture.

[Micke_VOC]

Latvala puncture ? losing a lot on third split.

[EstWRC]

Latvala puncture ? losing a lot on third split.

its his 4th split, he is in the end and with a third time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans is nowhere, already slowest on the 1st split. :(

[Micke_VOC]

Latvala puncture ? losing a lot on third split.

Wrc-live who tricked me, now he third fastest.

[dimviii]

FRI 08:39 - BREEN
Breen reaches the end of SS2 - 9m 07.7s on the board for him. 12sec off the fastest stage time. He said: "The dust is getting in my eyes, and I've not done this stage before - I've been stupidly slow at points." He looks to be rubbing his eyes quite a bit as he reaches stage end.

[AL14]

Strange, I don't recall dust to be an issue in Argentina. Do they run on new stages today?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All Live is waaay behind the live times... about 30s. :(

[dimviii]

Strange, I don't recall dust to be an issue in Argentina. Do they run on new stages today?

this stage run last time at 2011

[rp]

Seb is dominating & 1st on the road! Shame that Elfyn´s last year great performance was with the help of superior Dmack. No speed at all with the Michelin :(

[Mirek]

FRI 08:33 - DUSTY
Drivers are complaining of hanging dust. The stages are dry and there's not much of a breeze out there at the moment, that's reducing visibility quite a bit for the cars further down the order.

And the WRC2 runs with 1 min gaps only...

[EstWRC]

lol first stage only past and already "dominating"


all the drivers so angry with the dust!!

what were the organizers thinking?

[ZequeArgentina]

Strange, I don't recall dust to be an issue in Argentina. Do they run on new stages today?
Yes it has been problema several years, specially in stages like today morning where thick vegetation and do not allow the wind to fly the dust away. Recently we had many years with rainy conditions, but dust is a problem. I have suffered it from spectator point of view many times. Higher stages like el condor are easy for the wind.
Anyhow tomorrow and Sunday there is some rain expected

[ZequeArgentina]

Seb is dominating & 1st on the road! Shame that Elfyn´s last year great performance was with the help of superior Dmack. No speed at all with the Michelin :(
Today stage is more soft, not much to loose, specially at the morning with nigh dump making a thin wet surface. Dust is more problem than traction

[Mirek]

Rovanperä?

[er88]

Tanak quite lucky. Could've easily broken his suspension etc

[EstWRC]

Tanak quite lucky. Could've easily broken his suspension etc

cut too much into the corner and the stone lifted the car.

[Lead]

Gaps to 3min

[Micke_VOC]

Gaps to 3min
And 2 minutes for WRC2 ? Or 3 minutes for everyone ?

[Lead]

Fastest time for Veiby.

[Mirek]

Rovanperä?

He's there now. Only roughly half a minute lost on stage. Could have been a timing glitch to not show him in finish.

[PLuto]

He's there now. Only roughly half a minute lost on stage. Could have been a timing glitch to not show him in finish.

Kalle Rovanperä comes through in a time of 10m 28.8s - not a bad time considering his co-driver Jonne Halttunen was having to hold a big bit of interior trim which had been shaken loose!

[Mirek]

Kalle Rovanperä comes through in a time of 10m 28.8s - not a bad time considering his co-driver Jonne Halttunen was having to hold a big bit of interior trim which had been shaken loose!

I want to see the onboard :D

[PLuto]

I want to see the onboard :D

Usually they are publishing onboards where nothing happened. So I dont think we will be able to see this ;)

[Lead]

Neuville decided to brake down his GPS device to hide his splits for today...

[elmerim]

The in-car footage was shown for long time on WRC+, the whole interior part of the roof ventilation was hanging just from the water hose.

[BigWorm]

Ogier looks a bit ragged in here at times.

[EstWRC]

some damage in front for Ogier and Tänak, i suppose from watersplashes

[Lead]

Mikkelsen a pancture?

[bandit12]

timing glitch

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak WOW !

[er88]

Get in! What a time from Ott

[EstWRC]

and with a half broken car, lol

[N.O.T]

Tanak needs a good car...

[BigWorm]

Brilliant stuff from Ott

[N.O.T]

neuville should stick to dog selfies.... useless.

[Rallyper]

Hello friends. Some thunderstorms at my place, but now everything is keep going again.

Tanak will do a great job today. Despite mornings opener.

[ZequeArgentina]

Latvala pace in the splits is getting him at top in the leaderboard if he can keep its till the end of the stage

[EstWRC]

we will see huge smiling Jari after this one

[EstWRC]

i jinxed him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Or not.. :(

[Rallyper]

LATVALA!!! Don´t say he´s lucky. Engine broken? when he was fastest on splits!!

Damaged front right suspension! And no hard contact at all.

[rp]

i jinxed him

That´s true! :(

[Lead]

we will see huge smiling Jari after this one

Too early bro...

[AL14]

we will see huge smiling Jari after this one

You witch lol

[EstWRC]

it seems suspension failure? front right side very low?


man that Toyota is so fragile

[BigWorm]

Suspension is wack

[dupanton]

it seems suspension failure? front right side very low?

Yes, certainly.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yep, hit something hard.

[Tarmop]

Blue smoke also i believe+ suspension.

[mknight]

The parallels to Meeke at this point last year are just getting more and more accurate.

Next is to crash again on Saturday.

[dupanton]

He cut that corner too deep, it's his own fault...

[BigWorm]

Good time by Sordo

[Rallyper]

it seems suspension failure? front right side very low?


man that Toyota is so fragile

Was it two years ago when Fiesta was fragile then? Yeah.

[steve.mandzij]

For fucks sake!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dbykk9dW0AAvMQt.jpg

[EstWRC]

Evans just nowhere...those dmack were mega tyres last year

[Rallyper]

He cut that corner too deep, it's his own fault...

But it didn´t look like a hard hit even though he cut. I´m sure every driver is cutting now and then. However you have to choose places ...

[dimviii]

Evans just nowhere...those dmack were mega tyres last year

mega tyre not,for Argentina yes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Impact also did engine damage to the Toyota of Latvala.

[EstWRC]

mega tyre not,for Argentina yes.

thats what i meant, for Argentina

[Tarmop]

mega tyre not,for Argentina yes.

If the feeling isn`t there, then you can`t be fast. It does seem, that DMack was suited for this rally better, but i don`t think that`s the case.

[Watson]

Jesus Elfyn get your shit together already.

[dimviii]

If the feeling isn`t there, then you can`t be fast. It does seem, that DMack was suited for this rally better, but i don`t think that`s the case.

thats the case.When your competitor has to manufacture a tyre for 10 rallies,and you have manufacture a tyre specific for low temps.its easy.
But now we see the results of this kind of acting.

[N.O.T]

Nothing compares to the entertainment value Latvala brings to the sport... he should receive an award like that oscar they give to actors for lifelong contribution to the industry.

[N.O.T]

Jesus Elfyn get your shit together already.

they are together... he is nothing.

[AL14]

Why you guys are expecting more from Evans? He has always had this speed...

[Watson]

I really doubt the Dmacks made the difference between leading by 30 sec after the first day last year and trailing by 25 sec after effectively 2 stages this year. He lacks confidence and he can't seem to get over it.

[steve.mandzij]

Impact also did engine damage to the Toyota of Latvala.Now this might be the end of his title challenge for good...

[tc10a]

what happened to rovanperä?

[Watson]

Why you guys are expecting more from Evans? He has always had this speed...

Make no mistake, the Dmack tyres were a disadvantage everywhere but in Argentina and Wales. They tailor made tyres for certain events because they knew that event wins were the best they could hope for.

[PLuto]

what happened to rovanperä?

I think he has broken GPS. So no splits, no times, nobody knows :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I really doubt the Dmacks made the difference between leading by 30 sec after the first day last year and trailing by 25 sec after effectively 2 stages this year. He lacks confidence and he can't seem to get over it.

I think there was some problem he was talking about with Dan Barritt after the last stage. Not the car, maybe the notes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville having a shocking morning, slower than Ogier on the loop.

[Rallyper]

I think he has broken GPS. So no splits, no times, nobody knows :)

Fastest in WRC2 (if you count them all R5´s) on SS3.

[N.O.T]

Tanak flies.... pity for that spin.

[Rallyper]

WRC+ just stopped. Only me?

[er88]

WRC+ just stopped. Only me?Nope. Crashed for me too

[T16]

Nope. Crashed for me too

same here

[Eli]

And here

[rp]

WRC+ just stopped. Only me?

Not working anymore! :(

[Rallyper]

"Live stream starting soon" Oh, yes. Thank you very much. Meeehhhh.

[tc10a]

like always when crashing on the website, still working on firestick

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Ogier just 5.3s down after the morning loop and even ahead of Neuville. :)

[N.O.T]

very close rally so far...very nice.

[rp]

"Live stream starting soon" Oh, yes. Thank you very much. Meeehhhh.

Before we had at least the radio...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And radio has the same audio so cant even go to that... :(

[BigWorm]

It's back

[Rallyper]

Update and it´s working again!

[Eli]

Craig seems frustrated with the rear...interesting considering the fact the they said it was good in the tests....

[er88]

Shame, Craig still moaning about the rear of the Citroen despite the updates and good feeling in testing + shakedown. Still, he's not a million miles off

[er88]

Evans totally lost. Terrible start to the season so far, especially considering what Seb is doing with the Fiesta.

[cali]

And AllLive gone again?

[Rallyper]

And AllLive gone again?

Yeah. Thought it was my broadband, but can see it works proprely. But no WRC+ ...

"Server stopped responding ..."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbzA44cXUAAWppH.jpg:large

[steve.mandzij]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbzA44cXUAAWppH.jpg:largeLooks almost like a video game!

[BigWorm]

Ott into the lead

[mknight]

This stage is quite nice for a SS but the director switching the cameras is terrible.
Helicopter shots too far with little to see half the time and the shots from cars get switched every 2 corners.

[KKS]

This stage is quite nice for a SS but the director switching the cameras is terrible.
Helicopter shots too far with little to see half the time and the shots from cars get switched every 2 corners.
full onboards will be better

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville cant even make a decent time on the SSS.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbuqdRRWsAAd1RM.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@SebOgier
"I had a bit of help in SS2 with the dust, but I suffered a lot with my road position so all in all I think we've done the maximum this morning. The car is working well, I'm happy with my drive, no mistake so far so all good." #RallyArgentina

[pantealex]

That delay at WRC AllLive is huge, when they had 10 drivers thru, internet resultpages have 18 times...

[tc10a]

That delay at WRC AllLive is huge, when they had 10 drivers thru, internet resultpages have 18 times...

Be sure to be at the very end position of the actual stream - there is a delay today, but it is just some minutes. Maybe 1-2 drivers, not more.

[pantealex]

Be sure to be at the very end position of the actual stream - there is a delay today, but it is just some minutes. Maybe 1-2 drivers, not more.

I´m screenmirroring it from pad to tv...

That makes a lot more time lost.

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info - Day 1 - Afternoon:
Tanak: 3 MICHELIN LTX Force S5 + 2H4
Lappi: 4S5 + 2H4
Citroen/M-Sport: 5S5
Neuville/Mikkelsen: 5H4
Sordo: 4H4 + 1S5
#WRC #RallyArgentina

[Fast Eddie WRC]

On my PC I have the WRC.com results page open (and eWRC) - a time comes up and it's over 30 secs until the driver finishes on All Live.

[Lead]

Neuville cant even make a decent time on the SSS.

Overall he is 9sec off the rally leader, thats nothing.

[Tarmop]

Only difference is that from SS2 to SS5 the current leader has been 9. with 23,7 behind the leader at that time.

[Lead]

My guess, a lot of punctures incoming on the afternoon stages

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is it just my stream but All Live keeps pausing for a second ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Overall he is 9sec off the rally leader, thats nothing.

What was his winning margin here last year ? ;)

[HenryEST]

My stream constantly keeps pausing for a moment aswell, really annoying.

[tc10a]

I´m screenmirroring it from pad to tv...
That makes a lot more time lost.

On SS6 watching in Europe the delay of the live-image is about 55 seconds. All more is up to your setup and not wrc+

[argomees]

My stream constantly keeps pausing for a moment aswell, really annoying.Change the stream from auto to HD

Sent from my HTC One M9 using Tapatalk

[KKS]

My stream constantly keeps pausing for a moment aswell, really annoying.
Switch to HD . NO AUTO

[KKS]

30sec? Nueville up on Ogier?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That time correct 30s quicker ??

[tc10a]

Ogiers time is wrong, he finished about 8:50+

[dimviii]

from stage ends report doesnt seem that Ogier had a problem to loose 30 sec

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Whats the point in end of stage interviews if they dont know the times ?

[er88]

Mikkelsen all over the shop

[er88]

Fucking incorrect time for Seb. Useless amateurs

[Sulland]

Wrong tyrechoice for Mikkelsen?

Loosing a lot on ss6.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Puncture on the hard tyre.

[ESTR]

Every rally they fail to deliver proper stage times. And All Live thing crashing constantly... I think that they need to reduce their price until they fix all the issues. Like we are in 1980, they had better reception.

[Lead]

Those time glitches are really annoying

[dimviii]

FRI 15:11 - SS6: MIKKELSEN
So Mikkelsen is in now and he's 39.7sec off the benchmark time in this stage - he is still 0.4sec ahead of Ogier. He says: "Front-right puncture, it was very rough. I was just driving the line like normal." A deflated Andreas in that Hyundai (no pun intended)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/44259-ypf-rally-argentina-2018/ correct times