Rally Mexico 2018

[AnttiL]

The itinerary is published: https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/ItineraryMx18-V1.5.pdf

[RICARDO75]

Pff... 7 SSS

[Andre Oliveira]

Like Mahonen wants

[AnttiL]

Like Mahonen wants

Please...

[Watson]

Please...
hahaha I was tempted to write something along the lines of what Andre wrote just to pull your leg :P

[EstWRC]

muahahahaahaha, you werent the only ones :P

[AnttiL]

:D

[rayh_mx]

Maps:

https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/MapasRutabMx18-V.1.5.pdf

[AnttiL]

Maps:

https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/MapasRutabMx18-V.1.5.pdf

In rally-maps as well. Using the related stages function it's easy to see where the roads were used on previous rallies

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-M%C3%A9xico-2018

[AnttiL]

The Power stage ends with paved roads. That's a place for a Kris Meeke car park moment
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRtz8vrX4AAoSFQ.jpg:large

[steve.mandzij]

The Power stage ends with paved roads. That's a place for a Kris Meeke car park moment
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRtz8vrX4AAoSFQ.jpg:largeThose trees look like there's waaaaay less room for error now.

It's sad that they're ditching the old PS though... The final section was very exciting with the jump and the immediate right corner on which Meeke went off. It was fast and bumpy :)

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[KiwiWRCfan]

Rally Mexico entries close February 6th

[PLuto]

Rally Mexico entries close February 6th

So, entries are close. Will we see finalle more than 30 crews? :)

[pantealex]

So, entries are close. Will we see finalle more than 30 crews? :)

No, under 30 FIA legal entries, maybe if we count also national field, then over 30 entries possible.

[RICARDO75]

Sébastien Ogier FR Ford Fiesta WRC
Elfyn Evans GB Ford Fiesta WRC
Teemu Suninen FI Ford Fiesta WRC
Thierry Neuville BE Hyundai i20 coupe WRC
Andreas Mikkelsen NO Hyundai i20 coupe WRC
Dani Sordo ES Hyundai i20 coupe WRC
Jari-Matti Latvala FI Toyota Yaris WRC
Ott Tänak EE Toyota Yaris WRC
Esapekka Lappi FI Toyota Yaris WRC
Kris Meeke GB Citroën C3 WRC
Sébastien Loeb FR Citroën C3 WRC

Eric Camilli FR Ford Fiesta R5 ???
Pontus Tidemand SE Skoda Fabia R5 ???
Juuso Nordgren FI Skoda Fabia R5 ???
Kalle Rovanperä FI Skoda Fabia R5
Gustavo Saba PY Skoda Fabia R5
Benito Guerra MX Skoda Fabia R5
Nil Solans ES Ford Fiesta R5
Gus Greensmith GB Ford Fiesta R5
Marquito Bulacia BV Ford Fiesta R5
Jari Huttunen FI Hyundai i20 NG R5

[rage82]

Sébastien OgierFRFord Fiesta WRC
Elfyn EvansGBFord Fiesta WRC
Teemu SuninenFIFord Fiesta WRC
Thierry Neuville BEHyundai i20 coupe WRC
Andreas MikkelsenNOHyundai i20 coupe WRC
Dani SordoESHyundai i20 coupe WRC
Jari-Matti LatvalaFIToyota Yaris WRC
Ott Tänak EEToyota Yaris WRC
Esapekka LappiFIToyota Yaris WRC
Kris MeekeGBCitroën C3 WRC
Craig BreenIECitroën C3 WRC
Sébastien LoebFRCitroën C3 WRC

Eric CamilliFRFord Fiesta R5 ???
Pontus TidemandSESkoda Fabia R5 ???
Juuso NordgrenFISkoda Fabia R5 ???
Kalle RovanperäFISkoda Fabia R5
Gustavo SabaPYSkoda Fabia R5
Benito GuerraMXSkoda Fabia R5
Nil Solans ESFord Fiesta R5
Gus GreensmithGBFord Fiesta R5
Marquito BulaciaBVFord Fiesta R5
Jari HuttunenFIHyundai i20 NG R5Is that official or just guessing? Breen wasn't supposed to do Mexico.


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[Co-driven]

Sébastien Ogier FR Ford Fiesta WRC
Elfyn Evans GB Ford Fiesta WRC
Teemu Suninen FI Ford Fiesta WRC
Thierry Neuville BE Hyundai i20 coupe WRC
Andreas Mikkelsen NO Hyundai i20 coupe WRC
Dani Sordo ES Hyundai i20 coupe WRC
Jari-Matti Latvala FI Toyota Yaris WRC
Ott Tänak EE Toyota Yaris WRC
Esapekka Lappi FI Toyota Yaris WRC
Kris Meeke GB Citroën C3 WRC
Craig Breen IE Citroën C3 WRC
Sébastien Loeb FR Citroën C3 WRC

Eric Camilli FR Ford Fiesta R5 ???
Pontus Tidemand SE Skoda Fabia R5 ???
Juuso Nordgren FI Skoda Fabia R5 ???
Kalle Rovanperä FI Skoda Fabia R5
Gustavo Saba PY Skoda Fabia R5
Benito Guerra MX Skoda Fabia R5
Nil Solans ES Ford Fiesta R5
Gus Greensmith GB Ford Fiesta R5
Marquito Bulacia BV Ford Fiesta R5
Jari Huttunen FI Hyundai i20 NG R5

Also last rumour I heard was that Gustavo Saba from Paraguay would contest only National and South American Championship, although he said a few months ago that he would be in 6 WRC2 events.

[RICARDO75]

Yes, I copied/ paste very quickly from my notes. Sébastien Loeb and Kris Meeke for Citroën :)

About Gustavo Saba, I don't know. Since the first announcement about his possible program, I never saw anything different.

[rayh_mx]

Rally Mexico entries close February 6th

According to the Rally Guid 2:

Final date to receive original entry forms -> Tuesday February 13th, 2018 (barely yesterday)
Publication of Approved Entry List --> Thursday February 15th, 2018 (tomorrow)

[Andre Oliveira]

Nothing yet?

[jbmarcus21]

Here it is the 2018 Google Earth Map @RallyMexico ► http://bit.ly/2Bo0NSB

[Eli]

What about the entry list?

[PLuto]

Still no entry list?

[AnttiL]

My route preview. Lot of familiar roads but in new combinations and sequences. https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/02/19/rally-mexico-2018-route/

[mknight]

Note that last year in Mexico everyone except Citroen had overheating issues.

Ford and Hyundai with engine, on top of that Hyundai had the fuel-pump? problems on ss.
Toyota I think both with engine and brakes overheating.

The in-event solution from all teams was afaik to turn down the power.

So basically we have little idea about the "normal" performance of the cars here.

[kamei]

Ogier is normally doing good in Mexico. He admitted the overheating issues last year but also said that the other teams had bigger troubles. Strangely for me he was not losing much time as first car. He was constantly in top 5.

[AnttiL]

Ogier is my favourite for the win as well. He's an expert here and not having to sweep the road is a benefit, as Friday is the longest day of the rally. But it will also come down to the car durability in the conditions. Last year all teams struggled, Citroen the least, Toyota the most, it's a bit of a question who has improved the most.

[pucky54]

What about an entry list? Did they not reach the 20 cars mark?

[mknight]

Yes the favorites roles are almost completely reversed from Sweden.

Ogier and Citroen go up
- Citroen always seemed to have engine advantage in Mexico and C3 engine is supposedly also very good according to Mikkelsen after he tested 2017 Polo, I20 before Portugal and then C3.

Toyota goes down due to least experience and issues last year. Hyundai also down due to road position for Neuville and some uncertainty about car performance.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Loeb for the win!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Or Mikkelsen...

[AL14]

Can't wait for this event for a lot of reasons: Loeb's return, Neuville&Ogier stage end comments if it will be sunny, the difficulty to find a favourite for this event with a lot of fast drivers (Tanak, Meeke, Mikkelsen [Loeb?]) starting behind in the first day, Toyota improvements (if any) in one of their most difficult event of last year.

[mknight]

Mikkelsen actually has much less experience in Mexico than just about everyone else, only one 3rd place and didn't drive last year, so he's definitely not a favorite.

[A FONDO]

Mikkelsen actually has much less experience in Mexico than just about everyone else, only one 3rd place and didn't drive last year, so he's definitely not a favorite.

He will still set fast times though, the only question is for how long.

[RICARDO75]

According to program

Thursday February 15th, 2018
Publication of Approved Entry List...

so, where is it?

[Essaj]

Entry list finally published:
15431544

Edit: no idea how to make these bigger :/

[RICARDO75]

Entry list finally published:
15431544

Edit: no idea how to make these bigger :/

https://www.rallymexico.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/B-InscripcionesMx18V3.pdf

[KKS]

Why they delayed publish entry list and not include Breen into it? Citroen could bring 3rd car and FIA can make that late entry!
Agrrr!

[ESTR]

It's because Citroen are poor. They don't even have for crew lunches.

[A FONDO]

This entry list is a disaster. Mexico must be out of WRC already.

[rp]

This entry list is a disaster. Mexico must be out of WRC already.

It´s better than some other WRC events...

[electroliquid]

It´s better than some other WRC events...

Oh really? Some?...

[Myrvold]

This entry list is a disaster. Mexico must be out of WRC already.

More cars than Sweden will have if we should do what Ogier want...

[dupanton]

Why they delayed publish entry list and not include Breen into it? Citroen could bring 3rd car and FIA can make that late entry!
Agrrr!

I think the cars already left before they went to Sweden, no?

[AnttiL]

Cars fly in a week before or so but all other gear probably has been shipped already

[Tarmop]

Long-distance kit travels via ship Mexico-Argentina-Australia without returning to base meanwhile. When was it shipped, who knows, probably long time ago. Tänak`s totalled S60 travelled all the way from Mexico. :D But the point is, that it`s made for a certain number of crews, in this case forf two, with all the necessary equipment you need in addition to a rally car itself. Add the facts that bthey are on a tight budget and Breen doesn`t have any rally-experience from the event (again, Citroens policy, but the fact remains).

[bluuford]

This is very good list for Mexico, ca 30% increase compared to last year 24 entries :)

[Simmi]

Yeah I think the list looks decent. Some good battles guaranteed in the top two classes.

[kamei]

How could be the start list for the first leg?

Neuville
Ogier
Latvala
Lappi
Tanak
Mikkelsen
Meeke
Evans
Suninen
Sordo
Loeb

would it be correct?

[RICARDO75]

There's only 25 cars that can score points, the others are just there because it's outside Europe

Still, some say "It´s better than some other WRC events..."

[rp]

There's only 25 cars that can score points, the others are just there because it's outside Europe

Still, some say "It´s better than some other WRC events..."

Yes! Of course the numbers are at the same level, but at least WRC2 is much better...

Mexico 2018: 31 cars, 25 FIA homologated cars (11 WRC cars, 9 WRC2)

Mexico 2017: 24 cars, 21 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 5 WRC2)
Argentina 2017: 22 cars, 19 FIA homologated cars (13 WRC cars, 6 WRC2)
Australia 2017: 33 cars, 18 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 1 WRC2)

[KiwiWRCfan]

How could be the start list for the first leg?

Neuville
Ogier
Latvala
Lappi
Tanak
Mikkelsen
Meeke
Evans
Suninen
Sordo
Loeb

would it be correct?

Yes that is correct

[KiwiWRCfan]

When you consider Friday start order and who has not previously been on 2018 Podium it raises an interesting question.
How many drivers who have not yet been on a 2018 podium will be on Mexican podium ?
** denotes driver who has not yet had a 2018 podium

Neuville
Ogier
Latvala
** Lappi
Tanak
Mikkelsen
** Meeke
** Evans
** Suninen
** Sordo
** Loeb

I have posed this question as a poll on twitter - you see the spread of opinion here https://twitter.com/KiwiWRCfan/status/966947418523582464

[Atob WRC]

Show of Thierry Neuville - Nicolas Gilsoul on the Gravel Test before Mexico!

https://youtu.be/kI8iZKkXOxY

[electroliquid]

Yes! Of course the numbers are at the same level, but at least WRC2 is much better...

Mexico 2018: 31 cars, 25 FIA homologated cars (11 WRC cars, 9 WRC2)

Mexico 2017: 24 cars, 21 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 5 WRC2)
Argentina 2017: 22 cars, 19 FIA homologated cars (13 WRC cars, 6 WRC2)
Australia 2017: 33 cars, 18 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 1 WRC2)

Last year it was mandatory WRC2 rallies, and this year don't, so that could be one of reason why we have increase of that class entries in Mexico, and probably will have in Argentina and Australia.

[AnttiL]

Yes! Of course the numbers are at the same level, but at least WRC2 is much better...

Mexico 2018: 31 cars, 25 FIA homologated cars (11 WRC cars, 9 WRC2)

Mexico 2017: 24 cars, 21 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 5 WRC2)
Argentina 2017: 22 cars, 19 FIA homologated cars (13 WRC cars, 6 WRC2)
Australia 2017: 33 cars, 18 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 1 WRC2)

And all of those three last year events include one 2016 WRC car each. So basically only Argentina 2017 is better in that sense, but still that includes the private cars of Østberg and Bertelli, now we have 11 works cars, all of which can be expected to be competitive.

[Zeakiwi]

Is there a pick'em for who is going to complain the most about road sweeping and dust (and no wind) for the first 3 or more drivers into the stage start order in Mexico (Neuville, Ogier, Latvala...?)
Colin Clark was suggesting (in the kitchen talk after sweden) the front runner could lose a minute on day 1 in Mexico. Neuville's tactic might be make as much dust as possible if there is no wind.

The weather forecast in the lead up to the event looks dry with minimal light showers during the event (at this point in time)

[br21]

someone going to Mexico? some meeting?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Yes

[steve.mandzij]

Is there a pick'em for who is going to complain the most about road sweeping and dust (and no wind) for the first 3 or more drivers into the stage start order in Mexico (Neuville, Ogier, Latvala...?)
Colin Clark was suggesting (in the kitchen talk after sweden) the front runner could lose a minute on day 1 in Mexico. Neuville's tactic might be make as much dust as possible if there is no wind.

The weather forecast in the lead up to the event looks dry with minimal light showers during the event (at this point in time)Neuville will either be an insufferable angry dick or completely complacent with his situation. No middle ground.

I suppose Ogier will make some remark on how much he cleans too and Latvala might say something about the dust.

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[N.O.T]

Yes

do not forget to come back with secret details like how ogier is moving to tesla that are joining next month and how Ingrassia had successful spinal cord transplantation and is now able to compete and not retire...

[RICARDO75]

Yes! Of course the numbers are at the same level, but at least WRC2 is much better...

Mexico 2018: 31 cars, 25 FIA homologated cars (11 WRC cars, 9 WRC2)

Mexico 2017: 24 cars, 21 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 5 WRC2)
Argentina 2017: 22 cars, 19 FIA homologated cars (13 WRC cars, 6 WRC2)
Australia 2017: 33 cars, 18 FIA homologated cars (12 WRC cars, 1 WRC2)

The problem is not only the lack of drivers on the entry list. Is the excess of super special stages and the lack of security with spectators very badly placed.

[EstWRC]

SS12 / SS15 Otates start

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXK43t2U0AY9aEq.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXK48HiU0AAuEJw.jpg



credit https://twitter.com/RafaMSport/status/969040276764397568

[AnttiL]

SS12 / SS15 Otates start


Also shared by SS20 Alfaro. Driven last year also three times, as a part of SS10/13 Lajas de Oro and SS18 La Calera.

You can't run a non-super special stage three times but you can use parts of a stage multiple times. With the low entry count, it will be less cars on the road than running a Rally Finland stage twice – even with out the national Vetomies clubman rally.

[Andre Oliveira]

Only one test day to Ogier and no one to Suninen cause weather conditions on Spain.

[Co-driven]

Marquito Bulacia, 17-year old driver from Bolivia, will make his WRC2 debut with a Ford Fiesta.

Today he showed his livery.

He will also be in Rally Transitapua, first round of the Codasur Championship in Paraguay.

[AnttiL]

Only one test day to Ogier and no one to Suninen cause weather conditions on Spain.

Damn...Suninen also missed his test for last year's Rally Finland because Ogier crashed the car. He only got to do a couple of runs with the car he was doing the actual rally with.

[electroliquid]

Marquito Bulacia, 17-year old driver from Bolivia, will make his WRC2 debut with a Ford Fiesta.

Today he showed his livery.

He will also be in Rally Transitapua, first round of the Codasur Championship in Paraguay.

I think it looks great :)

[Teme]

You can't run a non-super special stage three times but you can use parts of a stage multiple times. With the low entry count, it will be less cars on the road than running a Rally Finland stage twice – even with out the national Vetomies clubman rally.

Well, the WRC rules say you cannot use any part of a stage more than two times.

"13. RALLY CHARACTERISTICS
13.1 RALLY CONFIGURATION
...
13.1.3 No one stage or part of a stage may be run more than twice in a rally, super special stages excluded."

But in Mexico that has happened for years now...

[AnttiL]

Well, the WRC rules say you cannot use any part of a stage more than two times.

"13. RALLY CHARACTERISTICS
13.1 RALLY CONFIGURATION
...
13.1.3 No one stage or part of a stage may be run more than twice in a rally, super special stages excluded."

But in Mexico that has happened for years now...

Oh, that’s interesting...

[Hartusvuori]

Damn...Suninen also missed his test for last year's Rally Finland because Ogier crashed the car. He only got to do a couple of runs with the car he was doing the actual rally with.

Regarding Suninen's Rally Finland tests: It was with the car he did the actual event, starting Monday afternoon of the rally week. Car came directly from the harbour to the testing site. But he did about 200 kms after all, using the test road for about six hours or more.

[AnttiL]

https://motorsport.hyundai.com/time-for-mexico/

[rayh_mx]

Well, the WRC rules say you cannot use any part of a stage more than two times.

"13. RALLY CHARACTERISTICS
13.1 RALLY CONFIGURATION
...
13.1.3 No one stage or part of a stage may be run more than twice in a rally, super special stages excluded."

But in Mexico that has happened for years now...

Mainly last year this happened. The steges between Saturaday & Sunday were repeated to a large extent
This year SS20 Alfaro use part of SS12/15 Otates

[AnttiL]

Actually Sweden also had the Torsby ending driven three times...

[rayh_mx]

I guess, it's about not repeating the full stage

[AnttiL]

I guess, it's about not repeating the full stage

That's what I thought as well but the quote from the rules says otherwise. Maybe it's a waiver like Monte Carlo can have Thursday stages and Tour de Corse doesn't have to have a super special...

[AnttiL]

In addition to Suninen not getting any testing, Ogier and Evans were testing in temperature as low as 10 °C, whereas Mexico will be a lot hotter.

https://www.rallit.fi/suniselle-takaisku-ennen-meksikon-mm-rallia-tilanne-vaikea-teemulle/

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCsV4AALWEl.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCvU0AAS9Sr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCuU8AIiFia.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCoUMAE9ENN.jpg

credit https://twitter.com/ChristianWRC1/status/969598082114572288

[Fast Eddie WRC]

In addition to Suninen not getting any testing, Ogier and Evans were testing in temperature as low as 10 °C, whereas Mexico will be a lot hotter.

https://www.rallit.fi/suniselle-takaisku-ennen-meksikon-mm-rallia-tilanne-vaikea-teemulle/

Sounds like Evans got the best test of the M-Sport's. It will be interesting to see if he can challenge here with a good road position (and now on Michelins !)

[Andre Oliveira]

Ogier and Suninen will make more Shakedown passes ;)

[AL14]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCsV4AALWEl.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCvU0AAS9Sr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCuU8AIiFia.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXS0TCoUMAE9ENN.jpg

credit https://twitter.com/ChristianWRC1/status/969598082114572288

Dat finger

[EstWRC]

Lol, i love your avatar :p

[wrc2017]

are those air freight 'frame', with the tapered side bottoms for the fuselage?

[OHL]

are those air freight 'frame', with the tapered side bottoms for the fuselage?

Yes. Those pallets are specifically made to go in the lower deck of wide body passenger aircraft. It`s much cheaper to send airfreight that way as opposed to upper deck on dedicated cargo aircraft. They are tapered on both ends and sit sideways in the belly of the plane.

[steve.mandzij]

After his dismal start to the season I kinda want Ogier to win Mexico. Of course I'd rather Latvala wins the rally but Ogier has been having it tough so far. My only wish: Latvala ahead of Tanak on pace.

Edit for clarity: by dismal I mean Sweden, actually and the fact that he's not leading the championship, something he's become so accustomed to doing after 2 rounds.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXeGSy5U0AAwOXr.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXeGcuoVoAAuhJk.jpg
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credit https://twitter.com/ChristianWRC1/status/970391931737051138

Martin Holmes preview https://rallysportmag.com/preview-rally-mexico-round-3-2018-world-rally-championship050318/
M-sport preview http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/m-sport-ford-target-return-to-form-in-mexico

[EstWRC]

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28378138_1714301255294970_7358093303847321600_n.jp g?oh=3f0cde042a086e663c8bebcb06531734&oe=5B032A3C

[Andre Oliveira]

Benito Guerra

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXi8BVhWkAEhhbc?format=jpg&name=medium

Pic of a friend:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXi8BVfXkAssJ2a?format=jpg&name=large

[Mirek]

What happened?

[dimviii]

omg what happened?

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/eWRCresults/status/970732468365119489

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/970734041895964672


Rallirinki / Teemu
Huttunen's Hyundai was next to Guerra's burnt Skoda. Maybe 10 metres distance away.


video
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=600349823647806&id=111499842532809

[EstWRC]

what? why?

[EstWRC]

Rally México Oficial

More
Confirmamos que el auto de @BenitoGuerra se incendió durante test. Ninguna persona sufrió lesión alguna incluída la tripulación, más tarde se dará el reporte oficial.
Translated from Spanish by Microsoft
We confirmed that the car of @BenitoGuerra caught fire during test. No person suffered any injuries including the crew, later the official report will be given.

[AnttiL]

https://www.facebook.com/rallymexicoexperience/videos/vb.111499842532809/600353200314135/?type=2&theater

This video shows it quite close

[HarriK]

Crazy mechanics!! Gasoline flood really much and uses battery tools and open sump quards. Last one push fire extinguisher and propably pushes gasoline to exhaust pipe and then flames come wild.

[Simmi]

That's mad. Huttnen's car was no one near the fire though clearly. Bit of fake news.

[Gregor-y]

Where's the Poland fire engine when it's needed?

I guess the spill was too sudden to get the car down and out of the way, but that's a lot of spilled fuel. Quite a mistake by someone.

[AnttiL]

Crazy mechanics!! Gasoline flood really much and uses battery tools and open sump quards. Last one push fire extinguisher and propably pushes gasoline to exhaust pipe and then flames come wild.

Yeah I noticed the filmer zooms in on the leak at 0:37 but I thought it's just water as they keep working and one of the guys even still goes under the car...apparently not

[AnttiL]

Where's the Poland fire engine when it's needed?

it was going to the wrong way

[T16]

That's mad. Huttnen's car was no one near the fire though clearly. Bit of fake news.

It was close enough to get covered in powder, but no damage.

[rayh_mx]

De acuerdo con los reportes obtenidos por ESTO DEL BAJÍO, el auto ya había realizado algunas pruebas a velocidad, el percance se generó cuando los mecánicos realizaban algunos ajustes en el motor. Además del vehículo de Benito Guerra, la carpa y parte de las herramientas del equipo Motorsport Italia también resultaron con daños severos

According to the reports obtained by ESTO DEL BAJÍO, the car had already made some tests at speed, the mess was generated when the mechanics made some adjustments in the engine. In addition to the vehicle of Benito Guerra, the tent and part of the tools of the Motorsport Italia team also resulted in severe damage

[rayh_mx]

https://cdn.oem.com.mx/elesto/2018/03/Benito-Guerra-Rally-M%C3%A9xico-600x420.jpg
It's all for Benito. Although there is no official report, I think they hardly recover the car for Thursday

[mousti]

https://cdn.oem.com.mx/elesto/2018/03/Benito-Guerra-Rally-M%C3%A9xico-600x420.jpg
It's all for Benito. Although there is no official report, I think they hardly recover the car for Thursday

Recover? That car is garbage now..

[rayh_mx]

Recover? That car is garbage now..
:D
:smash:

[itix]

https://cdn.oem.com.mx/elesto/2018/03/Benito-Guerra-Rally-M%C3%A9xico-600x420.jpg
It's all for Benito. Although there is no official report, I think they hardly recover the car for ThursdayAt least 3 Fabias have burnt now... Is it susceptible to flame somehow or why? OK that it is the second most common R5 but no Fiestas have burnt to my knowledge.

Does the Fabia have too exposed fuel or brake lines or something that keeps catching on fire?

[PLuto]

At least 3 Fabias have burnt now...

It was much more...

[Mirek]

Does the Fabia have too exposed fuel or brake lines or something that keeps catching on fire?

Not saying it's this case because I have no knowledge about what actually happened but a lot of Fabias burned before because of technical problem with the fuel tank.

[KKS]

According to ewrc - this 4th burn FabiaR5

[PLuto]

According to ewrc - this 4th burn FabiaR5

Wrong info, there was much more burned Fabias...

[PLuto]

Not saying it's this case because I have no knowledge about what actually happened but a lot of Fabias burned before because of technical problem with the fuel tank.

To be more precise, it is not only with fuel tank, but also other parts - this problem is accumulation of few "not so correct" things which can lead to fire...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

To be more precise, it is not only with fuel tank, but also other parts - this problem is accumulation of few "not so correct" things which can lead to fire.

Someone could get hurt or worse in or around one of these Škoda's.

Also arent Fabia R5 owners and especially their insurer's worried ?

[KKS]

but no Fiestas have burnt to my knowledge.

https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo/47-ford-fiesta-r5/?car=1267
https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo/47-ford-fiesta-r5/?car=1630

[N.O.T]

someone could get hurt or worse in or around one of these Škoda's.

Also arent fabia r5 owners and especially their insurer's worried ?

lol...

[Zeakiwi]

Should have thrown a bag of absorbant on the spilled fuel, though I guess it might be wise to leave any bags of white powder behind if returning equipment to Europe in case the bags are substituted for white powders from the americas.
https://youtu.be/3jr-0DY8MQY fuel absorbant

Does Benito have a spare Evo X in the shed?

[stefanvv]

:D

[itix]

Not saying it's this case because I have no knowledge about what actually happened but a lot of Fabias burned before because of technical problem with the fuel tank.Curious, thanks.

Pluto, I meant completely burnt out to the point where they had to scrap the chassis. I'm sure others caught fire.

[itix]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo/47-ford-fiesta-r5/?car=1267
https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo/47-ford-fiesta-r5/?car=1630Thanks KKS, so I'll have to update my mental database. Arai went off the road though. Not much info that I can find on the other one.

The Skodas seem more of a case of "spontaneous" combustion. No crash, no sudden grass fire or broken wheel that tear off a brake line or something like that.

[br21]

I was there. When it happened there was no chance to do anything. Before it happened also not much, as with such hot car and big leak not much can be done to prevent fire. If fire brigade could come faster then maybe more could be saved...

[Mirek]

Also arent Fabia R5 owners and especially their insurer's worried ?

Of course they are.

[Zeakiwi]

Can Skoda apply for an urgent homologated parts upgrade if they figure out the issue and find safer replacement parts?
Call in some VW/Audi race/ rally engineers in a consultancy role. Wouldn't want the Polo R5 to have the same issues?

[mknight]

I have not seen any detailed statistics but compared to the very large number of Fabias built (~200?) the number that caught fire or got destroyed (5-10?) is not all that big. Especially compared to how many rally kms they have driven.

Sure it does seem to be an issue, but it's not on an "omg we have to fix it before tomorrow" level.

[Tarmop]

Unless the issue has been there for "days" and "tomorrow" is more like "never".

[Andre Oliveira]

I think allready homologated the solution. Remember read something about that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Imagine if it was a WRC with this sort of known problem. I dont think they would be allowed to continue to compete.

[KKS]

Imagine if it was a WRC with this sort of known problem. I dont think they would be allowed to continue to compete.
WRC have some different FIA to R5 cars?

[rallyfiend]

Imagine if it was a WRC with this sort of known problem. I dont think they would be allowed to continue to compete.

Imagine if your aunty had balls. She'd be your uncle.

[EstWRC]

imaaaaaggiiinee all the peooopleeee

Speaking about favourites i see that in pickems many have put Tänak first or at least included him in the TOP3. But the truth is that Mexico is his weakest gravel rally IMO (at least results wise and he hasnt shown great speed there either). And next round in Corsica is his weakest rally of all in the calendar so if he gets podiums from those two rallies it would be very nice.

Call me crazy if you want but my favourite is Loeb followed by Meeke and Mikkelsen.

[AnttiL]

Speaking about favourites i see that in pickems many have put Tänak first or at least included him in the TOP3. But the truth is that Mexico is his weakest gravel rally IMO (at least results wise and he hasnt shown great speed there either).

I noticed the same. Tänak said in the preview that he likes more the faster type of Mexico roads like El Brinco, and this is where he made the fastest time last year, but the truth is most of the roads are of the slower type. Still, he didn't have a good Deutschland result either before winning it last year.

I'm putting my money on Ogier. He knows how to handle these conditions and is the best of driving super clean with the low power and he isn't even the first on the road. Last year he was really up there although the car was new to him on gravel. Now he has had a year of setting it up more to his tastes.

Loeb will benefit from his starting position and has a winning car, but he has been too long off from gravel rallies, it takes some time to settle in. Also, he might be getting too old to handle the super fast reactions needed for these new WRC cars.

Meeke will be fast but will he finish?

Also, it's another question on whose car will handle best the conditions. Last year after El Chocolate 1 we had all cars with some sort of problems except Meeke.

[HarriK]

What does Guerra say here:
https://www.facebook.com/esportesmx/videos/1746715572045989/?hc_ref=ARTZRIwSf8cFbl-rjevLrh-N_MzkZ3lfElQ07UGo1A9cUC1K1znyY5KpPlS2P8mzZo0&pnref=story

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC have some different FIA to R5 cars?

I think they would have different reactions when its the big rally championship and big manufacturers with the big publicity. Burning WRC's would soon hit the headlines...

[rayh_mx]

In the Rally Automovil Club México, in a interview, Benito said... :bigcry:

There is no car to run in México. There is a new car in the Czech Republic, but due to customs procedures, it won't arrive

[Mirek]

I think they would have different reactions when its the big rally championship and big manufacturers with the big publicity. Burning WRC's would soon hit the headlines...

There was a lot of Fiesta WRC/S2000 fires few years back (I think from rear brakes that time) and nothing special happened about that.

The fires of Fabias are a big problem and I am quite sure that everyone involved is well aware about that. I am also quite sure that it would be solved already if it was only about changing the fuel tank but it seems that the fire is a result of a chained mechanism which isn't easy to fix. On the other hand it doesn't appear that often. There are dozens of Fabias here in CZ and through the years I know about one burnt completely and one where the fire was extinguished successfully.

[EstWRC]

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[Mirek]

How about (sorry for no graphics, I am at work)

SO: Imagine, they gave me a modern car instead of that steam ship!

DE: You call that modern? C'mon, the gauges rotate in same direction!

SL: I feel dizzy guys...

[mknight]

Speaking about favourites i see that in pickems many have put Tänak first or at least included him in the TOP3. But the truth is that Mexico is his weakest gravel rally IMO (at least results wise and he hasnt shown great speed there either). And next round in Corsica is his weakest rally of all in the calendar so if he gets podiums from those two rallies it would be very nice.

Call me crazy if you want but my favourite is Loeb followed by Meeke and Mikkelsen.

Yes I also thought about this. Tanak has horrible Mexico record (including the lake swim).
Mikkelsen actually has quite bad stats in Mexico too.

So I'd rank favorites like this:

Group 1: Meeke (depends on confidence after Sweden), Latvala (provided car works)
Group 2: Mikkelsen, Ogier (road position)
Group 3: Tanak, Neuville (road position)

Loeb is impossible to predict.

[EstWRC]

DE: "Seb, from the bottom of my heart, i want to try this car!"
SO opens the door: " Hahahahaha, you cant, you wont fit. See? hahahahaha!"
SL: "DANG, someone finally said to him!"

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans targets win...
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/134683/evans-targets-mexico-win-amid-rubbish-start

[dimviii]

imaaaaaggiiinee all the peooopleeee

Speaking about favourites i see that in pickems many have put Tänak first or at least included him in the TOP3. But the truth is that Mexico is his weakest gravel rally IMO (at least results wise and he hasnt shown great speed there either). And next round in Corsica is his weakest rally of all in the calendar so if he gets podiums from those two rallies it would be very nice.

Call me crazy if you want but my favourite is Loeb followed by Meeke and Mikkelsen.

Tanak has evolved last 2 years.That he doesnt have till now, good results at Mexico doesnt say something imho.

[EstWRC]

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[danon]

How about (sorry for no graphics, I am at work)

SO: Imagine, they gave me a modern car instead of that steam ship!

DE: You call that modern? C'mon, the gauges rotate in same direction!

SL: I feel dizzy guys...

Engineer sense of humor..

[danon]

https://s5.postimg.org/clvv8yl6v/skoda_r5_fire_truck_for_rent.jpg

[PLuto]

I have not seen any detailed statistics but compared to the very large number of Fabias built (~200?) the number that caught fire or got destroyed (5-10?) is not all that big. Especially compared to how many rally kms they have driven.

Sure it does seem to be an issue, but it's not on an "omg we have to fix it before tomorrow" level.

This is really serious problem. And it not happened only once, but many times. Around 10 burnt Fabias is only final result...

[PLuto]

I think allready homologated the solution. Remember read something about that.

If I remember well, problem was not solved by any special homologation, only some recommendations. But I am not sure if it helps so much...

[Gregor-y]

caption this

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"So I said this Red Bull advertising is getting out of hand and I'm not going to stand for it any longer. They said 'You seem very upset. Have a seat on this chair for a moment and I promise we will not force the matter.'"

[er88]

With Tanak, Mikkelsen and Meeke running 5th, 6th and 7th on the road they'd have to be the favourites. Unknowns are Loeb and also Evans (Evans due to being on Dmacks last season, and Loeb because he's been years out of the car on gravel. Sounded positive about the test though)

[dimviii]

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[AL14]

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"... And he actually sent a complain to FIA, lol"

[ESTR]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXsFLyXUMAEahAc.jpg

Obviously Ogi hate his guts.

[dimviii]

Seb, how were tests in Spain?
Sebastien Loeb: Last September, when I first tested the C3 WRC on gravel, I was not happy with the nervous behavior of the rear axle. This time I felt more comfortable. There is a feeling that driving has become easier. Yes, since last year something has changed in him, but I can not say if my sense of comfort is explained by this, or the fact is that I was better adapted to the car.
In addition, I conducted a test session with the DS3 WRC - to refresh the piloting skills on gravel. Whatever it was, we can say that this time I found my rhythm much faster than when I first met the car in 2017.

Do you think that this car Citroën is the most complicated in the management of all that you have managed to fly?
Sebastien Loeb: No, it's not. Moreover, I eventually found his behavior pretty good. It is impossible, however, to exclude that the control of the machine could alleviate the very nature of the coating. The test site was very good, it is difficult to "lose" the car, and it did not seem to me that it was more difficult to control than some other car.
Pleasure from the piloting process is?
Sébastien Loeb: Yes, there is. But I did not go to WRC for gravel for a very long time, so the pleasure was guaranteed to me. A more powerful engine of the new machine makes it all the time to work behind the wheel, leaving no time for respite.

Were you able to find the appropriate settings?
Sebastien Loeb: We tested in practice the different ideas that the team proposed. All of them are similar to what was already used earlier, and are close to the settings of Chris Meek - after deduction of individual differential settings. It was beneficial to use new shock absorbers: improved handling of the C3 WRC and a sense of grip.
Did there appear after the tests any idea of ​​what to expect in Mexico?
Sébastien Loeb: It's hard to say. I do not know, on the tests, the sensations were good. There is no impression that I have forgotten everything and can not go to full strength ... but I do not know what will happen in the race, and where I will be compared to the leaders of the championship.
And what you may not be enough in comparison with the regular participants of the series? With what, in your opinion, there will be difficulties?
Sébastien Loeb: I understand very well that I will have a certain handicap. I still have time to feel it when I'm racing at full speed - in comparison with those WRC, which I managed to manage before, everything will happen much faster.
At high speed, the aerodynamic tail comes into operation, due to which a high level of adhesion is maintained. The difference is really felt - unlike the slow sections - and you will need to remember this, so as not to get over at speed. The potential of the new machine is much higher than what I'm used to. It will be necessary to act faster.

Another point is the lack of knowledge about the route of the rally. The race is held annually on the same roads, and the permanent participants learned it by heart - and I have not appeared in Mexico for six years.

Such a lack of experience always affects one way or another. I have not started on gravel for six years, and this, incidentally, is the World Cup. Constant members of it will not wait for me! They are fresh, well-trained, young and very evil. I can not wait to see where I will be compared to them.
And the age? Does it affect?
Sébastien Loeb: / laughs / Well, when I close one eye, I can still see the second!
No, everything is okay. But you are right: it is well known that after reaching a certain age a person loses some of his skills. However, I do not feel anything like that yet.

The desire to finish at any cost, careful handling of the gas pedal ...
Sebastien Loeb: Well, it's always been in me. I never rushed like a madman and always acted prudently. When all is well, then there is no need to risk - and I have never changed this approach.
No, really. I did not try to take risks, as other pilots like to do, and nothing has changed here. Usually I played out time a little - then, there ... and on the way out I got the advantage.
That's why I do not know what I'll show in Mexico. But if you judge by your own feelings from the tests, everything is in order.

Can you say that this return is one of the most difficult challenges in your career?
Sébastien Loeb: Actually, I do not take it as a test.
From time to time I start in the rally for the sake of sensations. With Severin (wife), with Daniel, in Vary or somewhere else - I always get a lot of fun. Last year, Citroën gave me the opportunity to try out a new generation WRC car, and then we moved on, deciding to go through three stages (racing in Mexico, Corsica and Spain). I perceive this program as another pleasant adventure, which I can share with Daniel.

I do not like it when the word "test" is mentioned. I know very well that behind it are certain expectations. If everything goes wrong, I will remember this until the end of the day - and I'm not at all grateful to hear it.

I'm not one of those people who stay at home, because they won nine league titles and now just want to maintain a good image. I participate in the World Rally Cross Championship and performed at the Dakar, since I still have the opportunity to do what I want, and to enjoy this process.
I constantly have to repeat myself: "I do not care what others think." I do what I like - and this is the most important thing.

Although, of course, there is a certain element of testing in all this. If I fail, someone will say: "Look, here is the nine-time world champion who does not drag any more." And it may be that everything will go well - and it will be cool.
And it is not necessary to re-raise this theme of the "Loeb's war with Ogier." Everybody knows this story so well. There will be me 70, and he's 60 - then we'll talk about her. Now I'm interested to see what I can do ... in my years ...

[dimviii]

You are used to winning. You have a reputation as a person for whom defeat is unbearable. What now? Will you reconcile with the result outside the podium?
Sébastien Loeb: Well, at least I will enjoy the process of piloting, but if I lag behind, not having a clear explanation at hand, I will be very upset. I hope that there will not be a complete failure in my performance, but let's see how it all looks at the "combat" speed ...

In general, I've had a difficult rally in previous years - when I was still good! / laughs / However, today the level of competition has grown, and any leader can easily be the sixth. Even if you feel that everything is not so bad, it's easy and quick to find yourself in the role of a lagging person.

That is, to talk about a specific goal for the race is difficult?
Sebastien Loeb: It's embarrassing, yes.
Of course, I will be very happy if I am in a group of leaders. The position between the fourth and the seventh will not become a laughingstock either. But I'll be upset if I fight for places in the tail of the WRC channel.
Much will be decided on the first day. I know that I have a good starting position, which means that I will need to immediately use this advantage, gaining a good pace. After what we saw on the rally Sweden, it is obvious that Friday needs to be completed on the right footing.
Do you realize what attention is paid to your participation on the part of the press?

Sebastien Loeb: I try not to get involved in reading the press: journalists still write some nonsense (smiling).

When I made the decision to go through these three stages, I realized that I was coming out under the spotlights. Every time I approach the rally discipline, everyone who does not feel like talking is inevitably talking about it. Even the start in Vara on the 20-year Peugeot 306 Maxi caused more interest than my performances in the rally-cross!
Well, someone, of course, will happily grab the theme of the fight between Loeb and Ogier ... but he is fighting for the title, while I start for fun. I think he has more real rivals than I do. I want to compare myself with the others to understand at what level I am today.

How does Daniel Helen feel? (Monegasque injured coccyx at the Dakar Rally) Will it survive a full-fledged rally? Will you somehow protect your co-driver?
Sebastien Loeb: If he came to the start of the race, he certainly will not run away on the second day.
It's his choice. He conducted tests with me - both with DS3 WRC, and with C3 WRC. Yes, he gave up his place to Isabel [Galmish, navigator Dominique Reba] in order to save energy, but could easily withstand the entire session. I'm sure he'll be fine.
It's not a secret for anyone that you really love coffee, and sometimes you drink it even while driving. Have you checked the availability of a good coffee machine in the team?

Sebastien Loeb: It all depends on the team! If they do not have ambitions, then there is no need to buy Nespresso [brand of coffee machine]. Well, if they want me to have some result ... we'll think about it.

http://telegra.ph/Interview-Loeb-03-07

[dimviii]

from Elenas twitter

https://twitter.com/DanosElena/status/971408231120670720

That's it, only one day, is the right atmosphere is already gone... Nice return in @OfficialWRC �� #WRC #C3WRC


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Is that how we work @jeromebourret?! Looking forward to reading the article tomorrow in @lequipe �� #WRC #Mexico

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[dimviii]

In Sweden, Sebastien Ogier (Ford Fiesta WRC) had surprised his world by starting the stage of the Power Stage later, to avoid being disturbed by the snow. "I think I could go faster than him on the stage of the Power Stage (Ogier finished 2nd in this PS and won 4 points in the championship, ed.) But this was not the time to take risks. In the future, maybe we'll take it if we're in a similar situation, let's hope the rules will stay the same for everyone this season, it would be a shame that the rules are changing now that Ogier was the only one to make use of this rule, "said Thierry Neuville.

In order to get used to the warm weather conditions, Thierry Neuville and his co-driver Nicolas Gilsoul traveled to Mexico earlier than usual. The Saint-Vithois will enter a race in first position for the first time in his career and will have to clean the course for his opponents. "I know we have a tough job but it's the rules, it's part of the world rally championship and that's always been the case, I'd like to score points and leave Mexico as a leader." we will go to Corsica and there it is an advantage to leave first, "concluded Neuville.

http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/wrc/thierry-neuville-aimerait-quitter-le-mexique-toujours-leader-du-mondial-wrc-5aa015bfcd702f0c1a2d7c17

[EstWRC]

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[dimviii]

hyundais with new side mirrors at rally^^

[Zeakiwi]

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Ogier(comment directed at Elena): "Sebastein L has suggested that the three of us do the 2019 Dakar Rally together in a Kamaz Truck"

[Luijbregts]

Lots of people here with comments on Loeb. I will add one to fire up the discussion: Loeb will win Mexico. Day one he probably has a 40 sec lead due to road position, day 2 retaining lead but maybe losing due to not being in 2018 car -/- 10/15 seconds, heading into sunday with a 25 sec lead. i am not even fan of Loeb but I reckon he will be on top level after coming weekend. Haters hate, I know!!

[racerx1979]

Unless Loeb Tanak or the other guys have issues and Loeb has a perfect rally, this will not happen. If it does happen it would be awesome.. I'm also not a Loeb fanboy. Just a hardcore rally guy ;)

[maailmameister]

If Loeb wins, then other men should look at the mirror with a critical look. The starting position is better, but the man has not been on WRC for many years.
I do not think he will win. Place in the TOP 5, possible.

[sollitt]

Lots of people here with comments on Loeb. I will add one to fire up the discussion: Loeb will win Mexico. Day one he probably has a 40 sec lead due to road position, day 2 retaining lead but maybe losing due to not being in 2018 car -/- 10/15 seconds, heading into sunday with a 25 sec lead. i am not even fan of Loeb but I reckon he will be on top level after coming weekend. Haters hate, I know!!
loeb will be 7th or 8th. No better.

[racerx1979]

loeb will be 7th or 8th. No better.

I think top 5 is a possibility due to road position and undoubtedly some attrition.

[KKS]

hyundais with new side mirrors at rally^^

closer
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[GigiGalliNo1]

No dogs or horses here:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb's recent experience on some similar terrain (on the Dakar) could help. But he has to adapt and realise the C3 isnt as tough as his Peugeot.

Impossible to predict his speed or finishing position.

[focus206]

If Loeb wins, then other men should look at the mirror with a critical look. The starting position is better, but the man has not been on WRC for many years.
I do not think he will win. Place in the TOP 5, possible.

I agree. 6 years out of WRC is a lot, I think he can aim for top 5 considering that in Mexico it's not unusual to see mechanical troubles. I'd be very surprised if he'd get a podium.

[Ucci]

I think top 5 is a possibility due to road position and undoubtedly some attrition.

I agree.

[dimviii]

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[N.O.T]

Loeb's recent experience on some similar terrain (on the Dakar) could help.

lol...wow...

[Lead]

Elena seems to be happy back in WRC commune...

[EstWRC]

so shakedown starts in a minute, as always you get times from this fantastic site https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/44257-rally-guanajuato-corona-mexico-2018/

[KKS]

Smoky Evans
https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/971757059912892416

[EstWRC]

Ogier much faster than Latvala and Neuville.

[EstWRC]

it seems that Neuvilles super fast lines are working well for Ogier...no one cant even get close to him at the moment.

[kamei]

Ogier is fast straightaway! Thrilling

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[Rallyper]

Smoky Evans
https://twitter.com/MSportLtd/status/971757059912892416

Uuuhhh. Cold engine? Otherwise needs much oil during rally... 5l can extra bringing in car.

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier is fast straightaway! Thrilling

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Something to prove in this event - can’t wait to see how it pans out!

[EstWRC]

Finally Evans and Meeke beat Ogiers time and by a margin. cant wait to see Loebs time.

[dimviii]

first small clip
https://twitter.com/oscar_elchara1/status/971770074527944706

[EstWRC]

first round and they came by championship order

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXxtzjPX4AAIxxG.jpg

[kamei]

The times of Evans and Meeke shows how much the late starters will benefit from their road positions. Maybe we will have surprising leader at the end of Leg1.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

first round and they came by championship order

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXxtzjPX4AAIxxG.jpg

Nice Top 3 ! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Second run.. Neuville cant beat Evans time.

[eib1]

live!

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10155439367275678/?notif_id=1520523320052691&notif_t=live_video

[dimviii]

live
https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10155439367275678/?notif_id=1520523314865196&notif_t=live_video

[EstWRC]

Very good times from Evans and Meeke on the first run...only now Ogier and Tänak beat those times with very tiny margin.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Official - Loeb is back !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXxvN_sU8AIPwCL.jpg

[N.O.T]

The fact that you consider shakedown times important is because your mental ability cannot reach normal levels ? or is some kind of treatment for your disabilities recommended by your physicians ?

[KKS]

Very good times from Evans and Meeke on the first run...only now Ogier and Tänak beat those times with very tiny margin.
Second run will be indicative. 1st it more depends on road cleaning.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Second run will be indicative. 1st it more depends on road cleaning.

First run shows what Neuville could lose on Day 1.

Good SD stage, quite representative.

[Mintexmemory]

Second run will be indicative. 1st it more depends on road cleaning.

Loeb’s First run was ‘cleaned’ let’s see if the rust cleans off!

[EstWRC]

Evans improved his time only by 0.6 secs on the second run while other are improving by 4 secs or even more.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans improved his time only by 0.6 secs on the second run while other are improving by 4 secs or even more.

He is so determined to go well on this event. I think he was on it from the start.

[KKS]

Ha Meeke - fastest :)

[EstWRC]

lol

[lankey555]

go ahead Kris!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2nd run - same Top 3, different order.

Loeb faster than Mikkelsen & Lappi.

[KKS]

go ahead Kris!!!
And stay on the road, without "Jesus Christ Kris" :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Run 3, Ogier within 0.1s of Meeke.

[er88]

Basically everyone gains at least 4/5s(a lot more in some cases) on second run, except Evans.

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[EstWRC]

second run

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXx3wKeW4AEfUEW.jpg

[kamei]

Loeb is catching up. Will he manage to fight for something more than Top 6?

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

He's coming up...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXx4_cfXcAAW4pv.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

What start position did Loeb have on the 1st run? Need to know if he's worth a bet or not...

[EstWRC]

What start position did Loeb have on the 1st run? Need to know if he's worth a bet or not...

he was last starter on the first run.

[Andre Oliveira]

Suninen having first km of test. 5th pass

[dimviii]

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Quite a gap waiting for Evans, Tanak, Sordo, Latvala, Neuville and Lappi to have another run.

[dimviii]

all Toyotas were at service,now all going to shakedown again.

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä faster than Tidemand!

[Mintexmemory]

Wonder if all Toyotas are getting a ‘tweak’ - last year’s issues again maybe?

[Essaj]

Rovanperä faster than Tidemand!

Why are you surprised? Kalle will win without problems :)

[EstWRC]

what issues? basically everybody went to service after 2 runs...Neuville and Tänak have now made their third run too but the times are coming through so slowly.

[dimviii]

Neuville now 0,4 from Meeke

[rayh_mx]

I guees Benito had overheat issues and that'swhy no took part of SD...

I see you later, the mountains, the dust and the camping house await me. First 500 km from Mexico City ... next, let's do rally

[KKS]

Lappi on stage with 0kph mark. Crashed?

[Andre Oliveira]

Before beggining?

[dimviii]

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[EstWRC]

TGR_WRC
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The car of @EsapekkaLappi has stopped in the shakedown stage. All is OK, and we are investigating what caused them to stop. #RallyMexico #WRC

[Mintexmemory]

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The car of @EsapekkaLappi has stopped in the shakedown stage. All is OK, and we are investigating what caused them to stop. #RallyMexico #WRC
Well that sounds like an issue!

[dimviii]

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[EstWRC]

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Shakedown notes: Ogier looked really good on the first run, Toyota engine sounded mild but changed after that. Meeke using starting position to max, seemed to push really hard in shakedown already. Loeb first run didn’t look good, but got better.. no surprises. #wrc #shakedown

[dimviii]

Teemu Suninen Racing
We did five runs in Shakedown this morning. I feel much more comfortable with the car now as I did not have any pre-rally test this time. Rally Mexico starts tonight at 20.08 in Guanajuato.

[dimviii]

Meeke couldnt improved his time at 4th run

[KKS]

Tanak and Latvala on 5th run. Testing session for Toyota

[EstWRC]

weird last runs by the Toyotas, way off the pace...Mikkelsen matching his 4th run time on 5th run

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXyBnoMWAAAZSgz.jpg

[Simmi]

weird last runs by the Toyotas, way off the pace...Mikkelsen matching his 4th run time on 5th run

Probably had iPhone holding VIPs in the car at the time.

[er88]

Maybe Mikkelsen isn't totally happy. 6 runs now, but still not on the top pace despite good road position on first passes and now on clean road. Only shakedown though so hard to read too much into it

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MSportLtd
Shakedown complete! @SebOgier was third fastest and @TeemuSuninenRac was eighth fastest. @ElfynEvans' quickest time isn't showing, but it would see him placed in the top-three fastest times #WRC #RallyMexico #FordPerformance https://t.co/upgvp9nxG0

[Lead]

Maybe Mikkelsen isn't totally happy. 6 runs now, but still not on the top pace despite good road position on first passes and now on clean road. Only shakedown though so hard to read too much into it

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Probably still looking for the best setup...

[jparker]

I agree. 6 years out of WRC is a lot, I think he can aim for top 5 considering that in Mexico it's not unusual to see mechanical troubles. I'd be very surprised if he'd get a podium.

He didn't play golf during those 6y. I think trying different things in Motorsport may further develop rally skills. His age however is disadvantage, his brain and body will have hard time in the next 3 (I hope) days. I think nobody (even Loeb himself) knows what to expect out of this, but if he wins, Ogier has tough years ahead if he wants to do better than Loeb.

[focus206]

He didn't play golf during those 6y. I think trying different things in Motorsport may further develop rally skills. His age however is disadvantage, his brain and body will have hard time in the next 3 (I hope) days. I think nobody (even Loeb himself) knows what to expect out of this, but if he wins, Ogier has tough years ahead if he wants to do better than Loeb.

I don't think that touring car racing, GT racing, Dakar and rallycross can add anything to the rally experience that Loeb developed in 10+ years of WRC plus the earlier years in the national championship. For sure it's better that he has been racing rather than playing golf, but it's not the same as rallying in the WRC... we will see what he can do, it's hard to tell indeed. I'd only be happy if he could fight for a podium.

[eib1]

broken suspension?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXysmNUUMAAMcBQ.jpg:small

[racerx1979]

Stage rallying is a completely different beast. Co-Driver and pace notes carry a lot of weight. Lets hope Elena is on top of his game, which I am sure he is.

From the looks of it, Toyota already struggling with a few issues. Lets hope Loeb does better than 5th for the sake of Breen who if I were to bet on a position for this rally it would be 5th for Breen.

[racerx1979]

broken suspension?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXysmNUUMAAMcBQ.jpg:small

Yup, front lower suspension issue. I think I overheard it was damper mounting... Will be fixed for tomorrow.

[AnttiL]

https://www.rallit.fi/sunisella-erilainen-lahestymistapa-mm-ralliin-kysymysmerkkeja-ilmassa/

Suninen says the roads have been cleaning considerably already during recce.

[AnttiL]

Co-Driver and pace notes carry a lot of weight.

Pun intended? :p

[HarriK]

Yup, front lower suspension issue. I think I overheard it was damper mounting... Will be fixed for tomorrow.
Hopefully today.... today is SS1

[dimviii]

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https://www.facebook.com/pg/timoanisphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1629594500453779

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[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

Loeb onboard
https://youtu.be/IZeK0XE9-qc

Hyundai video
https://youtu.be/IbS7MrfMpR8

[racerx1979]

Pun intended? :p

Of course :)

[racerx1979]

Loeb onboard
https://youtu.be/IZeK0XE9-qc

Hyundai video
https://youtu.be/IbS7MrfMpR8

Pushing, but with caution for sure. I don't think Loeb was committed during SD.

[KKS]

broken suspension?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXysmNUUMAAMcBQ.jpg:small
https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/484115608657296/

Hit a concrete. Another Lappi's right-hand corner

[KKS]

Pushing, but with caution for sure. I don't think Loeb was committed during SD.
With few mistakes. I even spotted two.

[EstWRC]

michelin video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OveWSx_8HZ8

[dimviii]

michelin video
https://youtu.be/OveWSx_8HZ8

[dimviii]

Kris Meeke
"We had a productive shakedown this morning and I felt comfortable in my C3 WRC. This is an event where we were able to produce a solid performance last year and I have felt good since we arrived here in Mexico. Even in recce, I enjoyed driving through these stages again. It was nice to see a bit sun after two winter rallies. I hope the feeling will be the same in the race, but you must bear in mind that this is an event where you have to remain alert to make sure you don't get caught out by something, especially a large stone or rock."
Sébastien Loeb
"I didn't know the route and I hadn't seen any onboard videos beforehand so I initially just focused on getting my bearings on this stage, without taking any risks. We also had to change my driving position because to start with, I couldn't see very well. But I gradually found some rhythm as we completed the five runs. It's still difficult for me to know whereabouts I'm going to be in the standings. In any event, we'll need to be comfortable straight away!"

http://media.citroenracing.com/en/citroën-crews-pace-0

[er88]

Bit strange reading about how he had to change his driving position??? You'd have thought that would've been locked in by the first test last year, nevermind for his test in the last few weeks...

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[dimviii]

https://business.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.919236361581041.1073741976.241392896032061&type=1&l=e60daed46a

[KKS]

Bit strange reading about how he had to change his driving position??? You'd have thought that would've been locked in by the first test last year, nevermind for his test in the last few weeks...

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I think it was about shakedown