Rally Mexico 2018

[Andre Oliveira]

Road order to SS1: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/44257-rally-guanajuato-corona-mexico-2018/?leg=1

[Essaj]

Hopefully we get to see atleast some of the WRC2 guys, but sadly I doubt it :/

[KKS]

Hopefully we get to see atleast some of the WRC2 guys, but sadly I doubt it :/
We should see first 3 WRC2 crews

[steve.mandzij]

We should see first 3 WRC2 crewsIncluding Bulacia? How'd he do in SD?

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[KKS]

Including Bulacia? How'd he do in SD?

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He 4th )

But looks a start order a little bit changed:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXz1zFaXUAEiS12.jpg

[EstWRC]

they are not showing SS1 on ALL Live or is it just me ?

[dnb]

they are not showing SS1 on ALL Live or is it just me ?

nothing for me either

[EstWRC]

i dont see it in the schedule either, i dont understand

you can see it here https://www.tvcuatro.com/enlinea/4-1/

[salamaja]

they are not showing SS1 on ALL Live or is it just me ?

Same :/

[er88]

It's on the schedule if you slide it along. But no pictures

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[KKS]

they are not showing SS1 on ALL Live or is it just me ?
start at 04:08 (our local time) 4min to go
now it's blah blah blah before stage

[EstWRC]

like i said, this works https://www.tvcuatro.com/enlinea/4-1/

[KKS]

and now my wrclive drop too (

[racerx1979]

wrc live not working..

[KKS]

"An error occurred while processing your request.Reference #216.871c1751.1520561646.2db6b6a"

Perfect WRCLive

[EstWRC]

Sordo 0.2 faster than Loeb

[er88]

They can't cope with the first stage or two, 3rallies now with problems....

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[racerx1979]

Hope they refund us by providing a discount for next year.

[KKS]

first event without promocode and full of lags

[racerx1979]

At least the tvcutaro link works. Thanks!

Meeke not taking any risks. I think he is scarred from Germany.

[EstWRC]

But yet fastest and by a second :D

[racerx1979]

And he is fastest. Slow is fast holds true...

[er88]

first event without promocode and full of lagsYou're even getting any sort of stream on wrc AllLive??? I've had no pictures at all, just a 'This video is currently not available' message at the top of the blank screen.


But thanks EstWRC for the other link, that works fine

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[stefanvv]

wrc all live is live

[EstWRC]

arghhhh, just when Tänak starts my internet went away...nahhhhh

[Essaj]

I'm using WRC app and all live is working perfectly

[KKS]

Tanak -1.3. Good time

[er88]

AllLive is finally up and running

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[EstWRC]

what the hell Ogier, quite a mistake at the beginning but still just 0.1 down from Tänak.

[stefanvv]

mad run

[salamaja]

what the hell Ogier, huge mistake at the beginning but still just 0.1 down from Tänak.

To my "rallyeye" it seemed he pushed quite hard, no?

[Essaj]

Neuville!!! Holy FK!

[EstWRC]

what a time by Neuville and you could see he was holding nothing back, almost hitting a wall there

[KKS]

wow Neuville time!!! 2 sec faster!

[er88]

That's impressive but also stupid. You can't win anything on these stages and HE should know that best. Was really close to the wall.

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[KKS]

That's impressive but also stupid. You can't win anything on these stages and HE should know that best. Was really close to the wall.

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Last year he was fastest too at this stage.

[EstWRC]

Tidemand as fast as Suninen

[KKS]

Sebastian 'Grandpa' Loeb
:(

[racerx1979]

Well the first cars lay down a lot of rubber and clear the road so the later cars should be faster, but neuville trying to make up as much time as possible knowing he will playing the maid tomorrow with his broom.

[er88]

Huttunen having a nightmare.

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[KKS]

Well the first cars lay down a lot of rubber and clear the road so the later cars should be faster, but neuville trying to make up as much time as possible knowing he will playing the maid tomorrow with his broom.
They just follow his fast lines :D

[KKS]

What massive antena on Skoda's at roof at rear right corner? Didn't see it before.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Huttunen having a nightmare.

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Yes, lost a lot of time doing a 3-point turn after his half-spin.

[KKS]

and then miss a corner. Two mistakes less in a minute

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX0JDDCXUAAIQDK.jpg

[jparker]

That's impressive but also stupid. You can't win anything on these stages and HE should know that best. Was really close to the wall.

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Why is it stupid? Because you don't like it I guess.
Setting up authority in the race from beginning is important to show your confidence and intention.
In such a fears competition, psychological authority is equally important.

[racerx1979]

Like JParker said, Thierry came in and ruled. In my neck of the woods we would say "he put the muthafuggin hamma down!

It's nice to see someone besides Ogier throwing the hammer down.

[Andre Oliveira]

Road order to Friday: https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/44257-rally-guanajuato-corona-mexico-2018/?leg=1

[mknight]

If you take the starting order for SS and reverse it you get pretty much perfect agreement with the results. (dust cleaning + rubber laying).

Not complaining, it's rally, but can't use it to read much into the driver speed.

[Mintexmemory]

Like JParker said, Thierry came in and ruled. In my neck of the woods we would say "he put the muthafuggin hamma down!

It's nice to see someone besides Ogier throwing the hammer down.
Not something Ogier usually does though - he has more sense. Macho posturing can get a driver into deep merde very quickly. Like the truism goes, ‘You can’t win the rally on the first stage but you sure as hell can lose it!’

[Rally Hokkaido]

Not something Ogier usually does though - he has more sense. Macho posturing can get a driver into deep merde very quickly. Like the truism goes, ‘You can’t win the rally on the first stage but you sure as hell can lose it!’

And Huttunen gave us a fair example of that truism. He has given away around 15 seconds to his WRC2 rivals with a couple of mistakes on the SS.

[er88]

Why is it stupid? Because you don't like it I guess.
Setting up authority in the race from beginning is important to show your confidence and intention.
In such a fears competition, psychological authority is equally important.No, it's a bit stupid because it's a mickey mouse stage and the risk vs reward isn't worth it. Do you not remember what happened last year in Sweden??? He was inches from the wall last night and none of the other drivers are going to give a shit about him 'setting up authority' on a mickey mouse stage. If a driver wants to make a statement of intent to other drivers that he means business, that usually comes on the first proper stage or over the first loop of stages...

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[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_03_2018/post-0-0-76449700-1520574798.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Happy to see Neuville was pushing like hell on a MM Stage... shows he's learned nothing. Carry on like that he will come a cropper here...

[dimviii]

Loeb only had a few days to discover the car. "The basic idea is to get into the rhythm, the feeling is pretty good, it will be a successful rally if we get to the end and if we manage to be in the rhythm of some guys in the WRC. comes after five years against the ten best drivers in the world, it's obvious that it's not easy.If we get involved a bit in the fight, it can be nice.
The primary objective is the pleasure and it will come while attacking ", detailed the French pilot to our microphone.

It is naturally the number one attraction on Mexican lands. "I knew that all eyes would be on my return I would have preferred to do it discreetly to please me.It's part of the game, it must be accepted.It's nice, on the other hand, to to say that I have not been forgotten, what I have more than the others who have tried to come back and who have not succeeded ... Not much, I just hope I have enough talent to mix with the fight, "he added.

Before pointing the main point of comparison between his team and it compare: "The big point of difference is the aerodynamic support in the fast passages.The car goes very fast, the braking points are later. In the way of driving the car, it's not fundamentally different from what I've experienced in the past. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_loeb-je-reviens-pour-le-plaisir-mais-j-aurais-prefere-le-faire-discretement?id=9861469

[dimviii]

"What we said about it is not too much of my style to look at the comments, I think I have something else to do at home.The truth is that Sweden has been a week-end. end catastrophic, we could save four points, it can still count at the end of the year.Here, in Mexico, the rally will be successful if we collect big points on the finish. It's a big challenge, but we have to look long term.Our objective is to play the podium, we all know that Friday will be crucial.We want at least to be in front of Neuville and Latvala ", said Ogier at our microphone.

Before splashing on the return of his compatriot Sébastien Loeb, his great competitor of the past. "It's a very good challenge, nobody has succeeded before him, if there's one who can do it, it's him, we take it all seriously and we're all interested in see what he will be able to do If I could do the same thing I can not imagine this kind of return but never say never.
Relations with Seb are much better than we can say. We have not seen each other in recent years because we were very busy. It's good to see Seb and Daniel Elena again, "continued the defending champion.

And to conclude: "I only remember the positive of the past in front of him, I learned conflicts and oppositions with him.If there were things to do again, we would do it again differently, but it pulled me This is because I was opposed to a huge champion like Seb, and to fight with him, he had to dare to to be at 110%, we respect each other, that's obvious. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-sur-le-retour-de-loeb-s-il-y-en-a-un-qui-est-capable-de-le-faire-c-est-lui?id=9861383

[dimviii]

https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28872468_2063315030352253_5079352759879521493_n.jp g?oh=e55e8a99b67ba928212f831219614805&oe=5B49372B
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28685241_2063314670352289_4019533180520814279_n.jp g?oh=f7ee761a8b81553720d17eeb3401348d&oe=5B37ABC6
https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28783377_2063315360352220_115109653261712348_n.jpg ?oh=44e7c641cc8a4e977376a90060e2feb9&oe=5B3E6640
https://www.facebook.com/pg/emagrally/photos/?tab=album&album_id=2063314467018976

[dimviii]

TGR outdoor gym
https://twitter.com/OttTanak/status/972130528676712449

[Mintexmemory]

The primary objective is the pleasure and it will come while attacking ", detailed the French pilot


https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_loeb-je-reviens-pour-le-plaisir-mais-j-aurais-prefere-le-faire-discretement?id=9861469
Leaving aside the fact that Dim posting googlish translations drives me round the bend (anyone who’s bothered could follow the link and other translations are available); I am surprised Loeb is doing this for pleasure - don’t Citroen want to maximise manufacturer points? The situation is just like Monte 2013 - Loeb can do what he likes, Ogier will be focussed on Tanak, Neuville and Meeke (2 good results and he might betaken seriously!)

[dimviii]

Leaving aside the fact that Dim posting googlish translations drives me round the bend (anyone who’s bothered could follow the link and other translations are available); I am surprised Loeb is doing this for pleasure - don’t Citroen want to maximise manufacturer points? The situation is just like Monte 2013 - Loeb can do what he likes, Ogier will be focussed on Tanak, Neuville and Meeke (2 good results and he might betaken seriously!)

are you scared? You souldnt.

[KKS]

And Huttunen gave us a fair example of that truism. He has given away around 15 seconds to his WRC2 rivals with a couple of mistakes on the SS.
If you lame - it works in that way, but if you do all right. You lead a rally with 2 sec margin

[dimviii]

You have a good road position here, you know how to win at this event - in your mind what are you targeting in terms of a result?
SL:
It is difficult to say what I can do. All the WRC drivers do a lot of rallies every year and they are in the rhythm. It’s not easy to fight with any of them. I hope I will be able to find a good rhythm, but it’s really difficult to predict. It’s a surprise but I don’t know what to expect. The feeling is okay, the shakedown was okay and I hope I can do a good rhythm and drive a bit more.
Q:
What do you think will be the toughest challenge?
SL:
El Chocolate, the second stage. Everyone knows it very well but it’s the first time for me. It is one of the challenges for me. The other stages, some of the old notes are okay, from 2011 and 2012 – my last time here. Some do not change a lot. The hardest challenge is to get the confidence with the car and myself.
https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-press-conference-0

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I am surprised Loeb is doing this for pleasure - don’t Citroen want to maximise manufacturer points? The situation is just like Monte 2013 - Loeb can do what he likes, Ogier will be focussed on Tanak, Neuville and Meeke (2 good results and he might betaken seriously!)

I thought the same. If Loeb is just here for his own pleasure why didnt he hire a WRC car or use the PH Sport C3 ? The absent Craig Breen must be even more gutted after hearing this...

[dimviii]

#Tyre info: Day 1 - Morning: all the Michelin #WRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN LTX Force Soft (S5) except Kris Meeke with 3S+2H (H4) #wrc #RallyMexico


FRI 10:21 - WEATHER
Another beautiful day in Guanajuato with sunshine and blue sky. Sunrise was at 0700hrs and the current temperature of 19°C in Leon should hit 29°C later.

[KKS]

I thought the same. If Loeb is just here for his own pleasure why didnt he hire a WRC car or use the PH Sport C3 ? The absent Craig Breen must be even more gutted after hearing this...
Citroen make him an offer, why you should pay for yours own pleasure, when you can even make money on it?

[dimviii]

FRI 10:26 - START INTERVALS
Three-minute intervals between the World Rally Car and WRC 2 entrants today.

[mknight]

Ever since Citroen didn't get Ogier or Mikkelsen in September last year it's clear their goal is maximum PR for least amount of money. Not winning. If they win/do well it's just bonus.

[EstWRC]

and its a goooooo guys! good luck to everybody

[focus206]

Let's see if Thierry will be smart and aim at points or just push like hell and probably run into trouble...

[Lead]

Splits again not working...

[EstWRC]

Ogier 1.9 secs quicker in spl1

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier -1.9s split 1... not so much.

[er88]

Wrc splits don't work for me, any other sites that work that are more reliable?

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[EstWRC]

Latvala 1.2 secs quicker than Ogier

[dimviii]

Latvala -3.6

[Lead]

Ok, now splits are up @wrc

[dimviii]

Wrc splits don't work for me, any other sites that work that are more reliable?

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work for me

[dimviii]

ifi remember correct 1st split is at 6km midstage.
Latvala seems to be 0,5sec/km faster if he continue at this pace.

[EstWRC]

shitty start for Ott, 2.4 slower than Latvala, like i said it isnt his strongest rally.

[EstWRC]

Great second split for Ogier, 3 secs faster than Latvala.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

-10s .. GO-gier !

[EstWRC]

Ogier 10 secs faster than Neuville in last split

[dimviii]

shitty start for Ott, 2.4 slower than Latvala, like i said it isnt his strongest rally.

its just first stage,and first split.Calm down mate.

[dimviii]

Lappi on problems or error? + 5 min at splits

[AL14]

Ogier can't help but complaining even after good time and not first in the road.

[EstWRC]

Lappi on problems or error? + 5 min at splits

its his second split but it isnt good either

E: what a split by Meeke!

[er88]

Fast that from Meeke. Wonder if it's too fast...

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[KKS]

Meeke -5sec on 1st split. But Latvala also have good 1st split and then drop down

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier can't help but complaining even after good time and not first in the road.

Meeke's flying that's why.

[dimviii]

Meeke's flying that's why.

typical Ogier,moaning when somebody is faster.

[AL14]

Meeke's flying that's why.

sure... it's because of that...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

typical Ogier,moaning when somebody is faster.

For a reason.

[EstWRC]

engine problem for Latvala again, nothing major

[Mintexmemory]

Ogier can't help but complaining even after good time and not first in the road.
Why ? What has he said that you are deliberately misconstruing?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans close to Meeke.

[AL14]

engine problem for Latvala again, nothing major

I wanna check other Toyotas times. It could just be him...

[stefanvv]

Toyota struggling with power?!?

[Mintexmemory]

engine problem for Latvala again, nothing major

Nothing serious? Thought your opinion was that Toyota were in better shape than last year. Expect them to be way off pace and de tune again!

[dimviii]

For a reason.

there is always a reason.

[AL14]

Why ? What has he said that you are deliberately misconstruing?

What I said. He said other would be faster because of road position as he always, continuously and annoyngly does every time in the last 6 years.

[er88]

Lappi not happy, not complaints about engine like Jari though

Let's await Tanak...

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke -5.0s

[Fast Eddie WRC]

there is always a reason.

Correct. Unlike your bias.

[EstWRC]

Tänak secomd fastest, +1.9 but Meeke is cming with unbelievable pace

[AL14]

Tänak secomd fastest, +1.9 but Meeke is cming with unbelievable pace

And that means Latvala's complaining about engine is just him slowing down at the end.

[KKS]

Evans not far away from Meeke just 0.8

[Mintexmemory]

What I said. He said other would be faster because of road position as he always, continuously and annoyngly does every time in the last 6 years.

Just a statement of fact ! He doesn’t get carried away with over- hyping mic- monkeys

[er88]

Ogier has been brilliant on this stage imo

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[EstWRC]

Ogier has been brilliant on this stage imo

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He has been monsteri would say, what a time with second on the road!

[dimviii]

He has been monsteri would say, what a time with second on the road!

of course its an amazing time,thats why he hadnt got to moane.

[AL14]

Just a statement of fact ! He doesn’t get carried away with over- hyping mic- monkeys

It's always the same statement of fact... There have been a lot of facts, he stated that one, as always...

[er88]

Not great from Andreas with no issues and good road position

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[EstWRC]

Loeb second in the split, +0.7 only!

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen not so fast with clean road.

[EstWRC]

Meeke so far the only one to really use the road advantage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Disappointing end of stage by EE.

[dimviii]

Meeke so far the only one to really use the road advantage

different tyres though

[EstWRC]

so tye overheating issues already for some drivers and Meeke with 2 hard tires, clever!

[Mintexmemory]

Meeke so far the only one to really use the road advantage

So Ogier can settle for 2nd unless Meeke does a ‘Meeke’

[EstWRC]

Loeb +3.5 in second split, cmooonnn!

[er88]

different tyres thoughWhat are the different tyre strategies mate?

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[EstWRC]

Sordo second fastest and second in overall...from Meeke on the drivers are coming much quicker than front runners.

[dimviii]

What are the different tyre strategies mate?

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he has 3 softs and 2 hard compounds.All the other have 5 soft.
Meeke said that even at this stage with low temp his soft ones were moving=at bigger stages and as temp will rise =more move=slower

[dimviii]

Loeb 3rd faster +4.3
Not bad.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

ALL LIVE gone down ?!

[Eli]

ALL LIVE gone down ?!

Just when the master was passing by....

[seb_sh]

ALL LIVE gone down ?!

seems so :(

[er88]

All Live no more?!!

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[KKS]

wrc+ again fucked-up?

[er88]

he has 3 softs and 2 hard compounds.All the other have 5 soft.
Meeke said that even at this stage with low temp his soft ones were moving=at bigger stages and as temp will rise =more move=slowerThanks. Surprising other drivers didn't go for any hards as well?

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[kirungi okwogera]

Loeb is ridiculous. Five+ years out of the game

[EstWRC]

and next stage is already running with Neuville and Ogier.

[Salist]

live stream is not work.

[dimviii]

Thanks. Surprising other drivers didn't go for any hards as well?

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i surprised too,to be honest with these temps,and 30+km stages.

[Simmi]

Incredible that All Live sh*ts the bed just as Loeb is about to finish the stage. You couldn't write this.

[seb_sh]

Loeb 3rd faster +4.3
Not bad.

first proper stage after years away, that's amazing

[nafpaktos]

live stream is not work.

unfortunately no

[EstWRC]

i surprised too,to be honest with these temps,and 30+km stages.

i have understand that it is better to use softer tyres if you start in front? but yeah still suprising that only Meeke took hard ones.

[dimviii]

first proper stage after years away, that's amazing

with new car,and tyres he havent compete.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180309/0bf8c830eab54e8624c8b2688245ab18.jpg

[Salist]

Nothing error message or informations about problem. :-(

[Lead]

Loeb... thats just unbelievable.

[mufcAleksi]

Rovanperä stopped and Huttunen lost 50 seconds to Tidemand...

[AL14]

First split Neuville is 27hours faster than himself

[lnvs]

Nothing error message or informations about problem. :-(
Massive +++ CURRENTLY IN SERVICE +++ on the screen... :rolleyes:

[KKS]

Wellcome back to old good rally spectating :D

[dimviii]

i have understand that it is better to use softer tyres if you start in front? but yeah still suprising that only Meeke took hard ones.

cant answer this.Softer tyres have more grip,but when cleaning there is more sliding,which cause heat.
You have to test it,depents way of driving,kind of gravel,start position etc.

[er88]

This Is poor from AllLive. Really poor

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[Mr.Banan]

Loeb is god!

[stefanvv]

First split Neuville is 27hours faster than himself

He is on different timezone

[AL14]

Good job by Neuville. He increased the advantage over himself in 27hours and 37 minutes. What a performance!

[EstWRC]

Ogier 0.3 faster in spl1

[dimviii]

First split Neuville is 27hours faster than himself

he is trying to make lines that cant be followed.

[stefanvv]

I can watch these wrenches in my garage too

[EstWRC]

Latvala +1.7 in spl1...what is going on with him

[AL14]

Ogier slower at split2.

[dimviii]

FRI 11:23 - SS2: LOEB
Third quickest! 4.3sec off the pace and it's a great start for the Frenchman. "I'm quite surprised by that. A good run but not perfect. In places I'm hesitating, and I'm not there on the braking in others. It's coming."

[seb_sh]

FRI 11:23 - SS2: LOEB
Third quickest! 4.3sec off the pace and it's a great start for the Frenchman. "I'm quite surprised by that. A good run but not perfect. In places I'm hesitating, and I'm not there on the braking in others. It's coming."

haha, he's just warming up :D

[Lead]

FRI 11:23 - SS2: LOEB
Third quickest! 4.3sec off the pace and it's a great start for the Frenchman. "I'm quite surprised by that. A good run but not perfect. In places I'm hesitating, and I'm not there on the braking in others. It's coming."

Hahaha... some of the top drivers need to examine their driving style :D

[Rally Talent]

According to Finnish media, Latvala's engine is loosing power...

[kirungi okwogera]

It'll be hilarious if Loeb is at all competitive in the rally overall. I can imagine the arguments on here - he had road position advantage, blah blah blah. But to be anywhere in the same league as guys doing this for a full time job after like one day's practice in a totally new spec car is unreal.

[mknight]

well now you can hear all live commentary on wrc radio.. but no pictures anywhere.

[Allez Andruet]

What happened to Rovanperä?

[KKS]

alllive still not working? Cuz RallyRadio have audio from stream

[rage82]

alllive still not working? Cuz RallyRadio have audio from streamNot working at the moment

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[Salist]

Better than the nothing. :-)


well now you can hear all live commentary on wrc radio.. but no pictures anywhere.

[HaCo]

It'll be hilarious if Loeb is at all competitive in the rally overall. I can imagine the arguments on here - he had road position advantage, blah blah blah. But to be anywhere in the same league as guys doing this for a full time job after like one day's practice in a totally new spec car is unreal.

Loeb: It's coming.

:D :D :D

[br21]

Kalle stopped, same did Solans

[KKS]

Seems we have one global switch, "working splits" on one side and "working live stream" on other.
Now splits working perfectly

[dimviii]

Loeb: It's cuming.

:D :D :D

fixed

[SubaruNorway]

According to Finnish media, Latvala's engine is loosing power...

It does that when the engine senses engine knock and retards the ignition

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen coming with great speed this time

[jparker]

:imubash:
First split Neuville is 27hours faster than himself

[KKS]

Meeke 2.5sec slower at 2nd split.

[mknight]

Looking at Neuville and Mikkelsen splits and Neuville's average speed I'd say that slow and twisty suits the Hyundai much more as we have seen last year.

[EstWRC]

Meeke not so fast this time but MIkkelsen absolutely flying

[stefanvv]

it's back

[er88]

Mikkelsen flying. Great pace. Sordo looking quick too so maybe Hyundai's enjoying this stage

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[mknight]

so maybe Hyundai's enjoying this stage



I'd say so. The car's characters seem the same from last year.

Hyundai best on slow and twisty,
Toyota and Ford best on fast and open.
Citroen something between.

[Salist]

The stream is working!

[EstWRC]

did Latvala and Lappi had problems?

[nafpaktos]

The stream is working!

hope for not a while

[EstWRC]

MIkkelsen has lost all his advantage

[dimviii]

did Latvala and Lappi had problems?

FRI 11:58 - SS3: LAPPI
24sec off the pace in the second Toyota. "Quite a long stage and a slow average speed. It is what it is." Do you have an issue with overheating? He nods his head.

[dimviii]

lets see if Meekes hard compound can be faster at last kms.

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen pushed too hard in the beginning? seems so, he was 5 secs faster than Ott at half stage and slower in the end.

[mknight]

Mikkelsen pushed too hard in the beginning? seems so, he was 5 secs faster than Ott at half stage and slower in the end.

Nope, imo it's still the cars characters. Last two sections are much faster and open, and both Neuville and Mikkelsen lost in that part. If Sordo does I'd say it confirms it.

[EstWRC]

and Meeke fastest!

[AL14]

And on WRC+ no mention of his hard tyres that played a big role...

[kirungi okwogera]

lets see if Meekes hard compound can be faster at last kms.

Looks to be. Anybody got Meeke's last two splits though? Not visible on wrc.com for me.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice finish by Meeke and leads the stage times.

Beaten by Evans !

[er88]

Nope, imo it's still the cars characters. Last two sections are much faster and open, and both Neuville and Mikkelsen lost in that part. If Sordo does I'd say it confirms it.Think your observation could be spot on

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[EstWRC]

Evans going really well so far with his neat and tidy driving style.

[kirungi okwogera]

Evans fastest time, but Sordo looking like he'll demolish it!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo with amazing splits !

[EstWRC]

ridicoulous pace from Sordo so far but we have seen it before but sadly he isnt consistent enough with it.

[mknight]

Yeah Sordo increases in 4th. So maybe it's more Neuville and Mikkelsen's style.

[EstWRC]

wow Sordo and into the lead!

[dimviii]

Kalle Rovanpera
That's it for the day, after a jump there was a big rock in the middle of the road and it broke the radiator...

[KKS]

Wow, Sordo into a lead! What a stage!

[dimviii]

Huttunen with puncture at ss2
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/972173510012489728

[EstWRC]

man this is tight schedule, Loeb just finished and Neuville has already been on the next stage for 3 minutes.

[steve.mandzij]

Kalle Rovanpera
That's it for the day, after a jump there was a big rock in the middle of the road and it broke the radiator...Disappointing for all the Finns. I was looking forward to seeing Kalle too :(




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[er88]

Good for Ott he escaped the problems Jari and Lappi have had. Hopefully we don't have any more issues for Toyota and Ott stays fortunate

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[mknight]

Well for championship the current standings are great. The drivers that didn't do well in either of the first two rounds are up.

[EstWRC]

what the f...? first split at 8 minutes? cmoonnn

E: lol splits now all over the place

[dimviii]

highest stage at 2700 meters.Lets see how will cope Latvalas and Lappi engines.


FRI 12:23 - STAGE INFO: SS4
Ortega 1, 17.23km. A short liaison section leads into Ortega, which marks the high point of the WRC season as cars top 2700 metres. These roads were driven last year as the second part of the long El Chocolate and virtually the entire test is among the trees. Drivers will love this one with plenty of fast flowing corners.

[EstWRC]

Ogier slower in the end by 0.1 secs

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Splits no good on the WRC+ maps last stage and now not even on WRC.com. :(

[EstWRC]

Cmon Ott!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville will be pretty happy +12.5s to Ogier after the 3 main stages this morning.

[EightGear]

Toyota have learnt nothing from last year it seems.

[EstWRC]

interesting that Tänak isnt having that overheating problem.

[seb_sh]

man this is tight schedule, Loeb just finished and Neuville has already been on the next stage for 3 minutes.

It's good for us following the action, maybe a bit too tight but I prefer this to long breaks.

[KKS]

interesting that Tänak isnt having that overheating problem.
He told that he have same car and same problem but he try to managed it

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville is lucky two of the the Toyota's have been struggling so far today. They will run ahead of him in the afternoon.

[steve.mandzij]

He told that he have same car and same problem but he try to managed itHe thinks he has the same issue. He might be taking caution without actually knowing, as prevention, or not doing anything at all.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans off after a compression. :(

[EightGear]

Evans in trouble.

[EstWRC]

well that good performance went down quickly

[stefanvv]

Rolled?

[Simmi]

Rolled?

Scuffs above the doorline so he must have done. Looked like damaged left rear suspension too.

[EstWRC]

Meeke also said he had a massive moment

[er88]

Meeke had a massive moment at compression, probably same as Evans. Also says hard tyres have upset the balance of the car

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why did Evans have to get out of the car ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX3imK2XkAA98MN.jpg

[stefanvv]

Why did Evans have to get out of the car ?

To see where he is?!?

[danon]

Panic attack

[EstWRC]

what the heck Sordo, what has he eaten?

[stefanvv]

what the heck Sordo, what has he eaten?

Hot Mexican Chilli:D

[EstWRC]

well done Loeb! great first loop from him!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

(2 - Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel): In sixth gear we hit a big bump and it just flew the car in the air. The rear end came round, I couldn't pull it straight and we hit a bank and went over few times. We're okay.

[T16]

Why did Evans have to get out of the car ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX3imK2XkAA98MN.jpg

They rolled a few times... may have wanted to check to see if all wheels on and pointing (reasonably) in the right direction.. Not such a strange thing.

[steve.mandzij]

Hot Mexican Chilli:DHopefully he's waiting for the service bathrooms and won't stop for a bush emergency!

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[Simmi]

Car stood up to that pretty well. Like Eddie said in hindsight Elfyn didn't need to get out.

Loeb very impressive. Can see him eventually chasing down Sordo and taking his soul. It just feels right.

[steve.mandzij]

well that good performance went down quicklyHis career is coming to an unceremonious end (that is as long as M-Sport find a replacement even slightly more decent).

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DX3jzfHW0AAiMNe.jpg

[mknight]

Let's hope Sordo doesn't hit any issues like so many times on gravel rallies last year.

[EstWRC]

interesting that Tänak isnt having that overheating problem.

ill correct myself

FRI 12:38 - SS4: TANAK
Fastest through in the third Yaris. Is he suffering the same problem? "We have the same car, so I guess so. I try to manage it. We are taking really good care of it."


damn Toyota! work not done good enough!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They rolled a few times... may have wanted to check to see if all wheels on and pointing (reasonably) in the right direction.. Not such a strange thing.

Over the years I've seen drivers select a gear before all the wheels were back on the ground and they were off...

[dimviii]

ill correct myself

FRI 12:38 - SS4: TANAK
Fastest through in the third Yaris. Is he suffering the same problem? "We have the same car, so I guess so. I try to manage it. We are taking really good care of it."


damn Toyota! work not done good enough!

cant understand his ''answer''...From his times at highest stage there is no problem with overheat.

[er88]

ill correct myself

FRI 12:38 - SS4: TANAK
Fastest through in the third Yaris. Is he suffering the same problem? "We have the same car, so I guess so. I try to manage it. We are taking really good care of it."


damn Toyota! work not done good enough!Just because he has the same car doesn't mean he has the same problems. Both other drivers have much worse problems as you can see by the times, Tom Fowler just alluding to that

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[mknight]

cant understand his ''answer''...From his times at highest stage there is no problem with overheat.

The avg. speed of the last stage was 30 km/h faster than the stage before.

It's air cooling after all ;)

[dimviii]

The avg. speed of the last stage was 30 km/h faster than the stage before.

It's air cooling after all ;)

the air cooling was different from other 2 yaris?

[mknight]

the air cooling was different from other 2 yaris?

All 3 did good times in SS4. Extremely good compared with SS3.

[dimviii]

All 3 did good times in SS4. Extremely good compared with SS3.

drivers complaining

FRI 12:36 - SS4: LAPPI
Fourth quickest so far and Lappi reports similar problems to Latvala. What about Tanak? "He seems to be able to drive around the issue."

FRI 12:33 - SS4: LATVALA
Latvala quickest so far, despite ongoing engine issues. "Overheating - particularly on the uphill sections. We have to switch to road mode to keep the temperature down."

[mknight]

1) This doesn't mean they had major overheating issues in that particular stage.

2)
Timeloss/km
SS3/SS4
Tanak 0.48/0.2 (-0.28)
Latvala 1.13/0.52 (-0.61)
Lappi 1.4/0.78 (-0.62)

[dimviii]

1) This doesn't mean they had major overheating issues in that particular stage.

2)
Timeloss/km
SS3/SS4
Tanak 0.48/0.2
Latvala 1.13/0.52
Lappi 1.4/0.78

not major problem when swithing off antilag to road mode at midstage?

[sonnybobiche]

cant understand his ''answer''...From his times at highest stage there is no problem with overheat.

When they went to the onboard, I could hear Ott or Martin say something like "stage on, now!". So I take that to mean that they were switching back and forth between stage mode and road mode to try to cool down.

[mknight]

not major problem when swithing off antilag to road mode at midstage?

Lets double back for the troll's sake, cause it seems he can't follow his own arguments.


the air cooling was different from other 2 yaris?

All 3 Yaris had much better stage times in SS4 than all morning. Q.E.D.

[dimviii]

All 3 Yaris had much better stage times in SS4 than all morning. Q.E.D.

so you dont know if all yaris had engine overheat problems. Thats the answer you had to give at my question.
answer is not that ''they are faster vs previous stages''.

[satukata]

who is you favourite next tarmac stage? Thinking Bets :)