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Daniel
4th May 2007, 12:55
Just curious as to what tyres people on the forum use?

Some numpty put some Tigar tyres on my car and they're soooo crap :mark:

Wheelspin when going uphill and you can start to feel the tyres losing grip when cornering and you go over a painted white line. Why do people buy such useless crap and put it on their cars :confused: Had a look at the spare today and it’s “Kormoran” brand tyre. Wtf????? I bet the person probably paid more for those tyres than I will for the Michelin's I'm getting on saturday.

Motor_maniac
4th May 2007, 19:10
i've got Dunlop Sport Maxx all round, second set, certainly not cheap, but very grippy, as much as i need in a 1.6 civic anyway.

had kumho somethings on my old golf a couple of years ago, they werent too bad either, mind you hard to tell when the cars 14 years old.....

Zico
4th May 2007, 19:39
Goodyear Eagle F1's are superb, great in the dry.. but absolutely awesome in the wet. Closest you will get to Michelin Pilots for much less dosh, Last much longer than most other performance brands too.. I put 12k on mine.

Id choose from this lot..

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

Eagle F1 GSD2 or 3
Michelin Pilot Exalto or Cup
Bridgestone Potenza RE 010

Hazell B
4th May 2007, 20:39
Ohmygod, I was just coming here to ask the same question, Daniel!
Spooky.

I use a Camac semi on road but mainly off road tyre and we've just put the same thing on my partner's Land Rover as the road tyres it came with limit it's use too much. Now a friend's bought a vehicle the same as mine and been quoted £80 a tyre for what I use. Mine were £50 each.

I had no idea prices varied so much and wondered if normal road tyres vary from supplier to supplier too.

Daniel
4th May 2007, 21:54
Goodyear Eagle F1's are superb, great in the dry.. but absolutely awesome in the wet. Closest you will get to Michelin Pilots for much less dosh, Last much longer than most other performance brands too.. I put 12k on mine.

Id choose from this lot..

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/start.html

Eagle F1 GSD2 or 3
Michelin Pilot Exalto or Cup
Bridgestone Potenza RE 010

I've always thought Michelin are great tyres :) I'm getting Pilot Primacy's tomorrow so will report back on how they feel :)

Hazell. I always think it's worth paying good money for tyres. When I first got my 504 it had these horrible cheng shin tyres on it and they were noisy, crap in the wet and crap in the dry.

Then I got a set of slightly wider slightly used Pirelli P400's which were great on gravel and overall were still better than the Cheng Shin's. After 2 of those went I got a set of Michelin's and it really really made a difference. My car is 30 (!!!!!) years old now but just getting 2 good tyres made it drive so much better. They were great in the wet and dry, were really quiet and gave good warning when they were pushed to the limit :)

Maybe I'm just a rubber snob but it's it's not a big brand I won't buy it.

Brands I would buy

Michelin, Pirelli, Goodyear, Dunlop, Continental, Toyo, Yokohama, Bridgestone, Kumho and there are a few others that I've forgotten I'm sure.

Why buy something else when you've got such a good choice from the brands above? Sure you could save a bit but you'll probably pay it back in increased fuel costs, decreased performance and safety which isn't as good as it could be.

nicemms
4th May 2007, 21:55
Massivley. When my dad was looking for some tyres for his celica he had a £20-£30 difference. He usually goes to the local independent.

Allyc85
5th May 2007, 15:04
I have Vikings on my Ford Escort and they scare the hell out of me! Theres, very poor grip, loads of road noise and absaloutly no feedback through the steering!

When I get some GTI wheels Il be getting some Goodyear F1s :D

RaceFanStan
5th May 2007, 18:19
I don't like Goodyear tires, I bought a set of their P235/60/16R Touring tires, they were rough riding & noisy .....
any crack, depression or joint in the road surface was heard & felt, totally trashy tires ! http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/images/icons/tongue-anim.gif

I replaced the Goodyears after 2 years & spent a few dollars more & got a set of P235/60/16R Michelins,
What wonderful tires they are !
Smooth, Quiet & Superb Grip !
They cost a little more but they are SO WORTH IT ! :D

Daniel
5th May 2007, 20:36
Got my Michelin's today :D Very very good tyres :) Steering feels so so so so much more direct and the car can change direction a lot quicker than it could before :)

As Stan said. Michelin's cost more but they're damn good :) Now just got to get 2 the 2 rear tyres done next month :)

Stuartf12007
5th May 2007, 20:52
johnny

Daniel
6th May 2007, 00:11
johnny
Errrrr. I'm not familiar with that brand of tyre.....

raybak
6th May 2007, 00:29
Goodyear Eagle F1's are great, very good wear rate and good grip levels.

Ray

Zico
6th May 2007, 15:08
I don't like Goodyear tires, I bought a set of their P235/60/16R Touring tires, they were rough riding & noisy .....
any crack, depression or joint in the road surface was heard & felt, totally trashy tires ! http://www.motorsportforum.com/forums/images/icons/tongue-anim.gif

I replaced the Goodyears after 2 years & spent a few dollars more & got a set of P235/60/16R Michelins,
What wonderful tires they are !
Smooth, Quiet & Superb Grip !
They cost a little more but they are SO WORTH IT ! :D

You shouldnt say a manufacturer is crap just because the particular series of tyres you bought werent up to it, its like saying Honda are crap just because you bought a Honda Jazz.. thier sh1tty base model. ;)

Trust me.. F1's are right up there with the best.

RaceFanStan
6th May 2007, 17:06
I won't even mention all of the Goodyear tire FAILURES in NASCAR .....

OOPS, I guess I just did. :laugh:

Zico
6th May 2007, 22:16
I won't even mention all of the Goodyear tire FAILURES in NASCAR .....

OOPS, I guess I just did. :laugh:

Very witty reposte.. :D :D... heres mine.. ;)

Daniel was looking for opinions on tyres for a roadcar...a 1977 Peugeot 504 to be precise, not a Nascar special ... you wazok ! ;)

CarlMetro
7th May 2007, 02:54
Michelin Pilot Premacy. I don't think there is a better all-round tyre on the market.

Daniel
7th May 2007, 04:00
Very witty reposte.. ... heres mine..

Daniel was looking for opinions on tyres for a roadcar...a 1977 Peugeot 504 to be precise, not a Nascar special ... you wazok !
No no no :) not a 1977 Peugeot ;) A 1998 Peugeot 406.

Got a couple of Pilot Primacy's fitted on Saturday and as I said before they're great :) Just feels so much more connected to the road now than before :) Car now doesn't understeer like it did before :)

Donney
7th May 2007, 09:57
Michelin on the Ka and a combination of Firestones and Michelin in the Focus. I agree those Michelins are great but damn expensive!

The Kormorans are not exactly good but thay are driveable.

Zico
7th May 2007, 14:09
No no no :) not a 1977 Peugeot ;) A 1998 Peugeot 406.

Ahh well... same difference, cept the 504 is a better car being RWD. ;)

Daniel
7th May 2007, 20:06
Ahh well... same difference, cept the 504 is a better car being RWD. ;)
As a car to drive around in every day the 406 has the 504 licked :)

But as a car I like and I enjoy driving I prefer the 504 because it doesn't have power steering, it's Weber carby made nice sounds and it was RWD.

But the 406 has electric mirrors (2 of them to the 504's 1 mirror :mark: ), a manual gearbox, powaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (compared to a 30 year old 2l engine), a good air conditioner, a good heater, modern suspension and most importantly it has a CD player which I can connect my iPod to! :)

Kneeslider
7th May 2007, 21:26
The Boxster wears Pirelli Pzero rossos, and they have been on for as long as I have had the car (16,000 miles) and are getting rather worn now, but perform as well as ever. I rarely see the traction control light appear, or the ABS light under braking, so I guess that at £120 ish per rear that represents good value for such a performance orientated tyre, and I will replace with the same if I find a better deal. I did once provoke the rear into a slide, but that was on a very greasy bend, and a bit of opposite lock wheel twirling saved the day.

Hazell B
8th May 2007, 16:59
Hazell. I always think it's worth paying good money for tyres.
Maybe I'm just a rubber snob but it's it's not a big brand I won't buy it.

Why buy something else when you've got such a good choice from the brands above?


You misunderstodd me, sorry. I was asking how prices vary for exactly the same tyre in different places. The tyres my friend had a £80 quote for are exactly like my £50 ones.

The Camacs I use are off road tyres, so all the big names in the world can't help me - just like Nike baseball caps aren't much use as motorcycle helmets :p :

suzy m
8th May 2007, 18:10
My car had Michelins already fitted when I bought it brand new. Now 55k miles later I've had to replace one due to a puncture, 2 because they were worn but have still got one perfectly good original tyre. :eek: And no, I don't drive like a granny. :p :

Iain
9th May 2007, 23:51
My car has Bridgestone Turanzas on it at the moment, since new. The fronts will probably need replaced in another 2k miles or so though. I was conned into getting some Hankook Ventus tyres on my last car which were crap. Replaced them with some unknown 'sports tyres' which cost £110 for the pair and they were miles better.

donKey jote
11th May 2007, 22:57
I only drive Conti's, as I know what's in them :D

TS810's in Winter and I'll be getting new PremiumContact2's shortly.

klm-607
12th May 2007, 03:58
Nitto Neo-Gen 225/45ZR17's!!! Ran them for 3 summers on my 98' Ford Taurus SHO... AWESOME! Very "sticky", & great in the wet!

Robinho
12th May 2007, 14:24
i'm on Continental Conti sport 2's, which i think are great, i replaced the old mixture on my old VW Corrado VR6 which transformed the handling and they are good in the wet, ans my MG ZS 180 i replaced the Corrado with came with Conti's on.

Not as expensive as some of the premium brands, but a good compromise if you can't afford the best.

i have heard some good things about some of the grippier Avon tyres available also.

donKey jote
12th May 2007, 17:32
Not as expensive as some of the premium brands, but a good compromise if you can't afford the best.

... the best being ContiSportContact 3 ;) :p : :D

Daniel
14th August 2007, 21:46
I only drive Conti's, as I know what's in them :D

TS810's in Winter and I'll be getting new PremiumContact2's shortly.
You better right you mule :p I just ordered two Continental PremiumContact2's to go on my car sometime next week :)

My question is thus :) Is it worth rotating my tyres at all? I think the front Michelin's have done about 5000 miles or thereabouts so they're not really worn much as far as I can see :)

LotusElise
14th August 2007, 22:01
My car has Michelin Pilot Sports as recommended by the manufacturer. i'm very happy with them.
The C2 I've got has very uncommon wheel dimensions and there are only two types of tyre that fit that are widely available, the Pilots and a Toyo version. I prefer to pay a little more for the Michelins.

Daniel
14th August 2007, 22:07
My car has Michelin Pilot Sports as recommended by the manufacturer. i'm very happy with them.
The C2 I've got has very uncommon wheel dimensions and there are only two types of tyre that fit that are widely available, the Pilots and a Toyo version. I prefer to pay a little more for the Michelins.
What model is it? The VTS?

Drew
14th August 2007, 22:23
Durex.

Oh, not that type of rubber?

LotusElise
15th August 2007, 09:20
What model is it? The VTS?

The GT from 2004.

Brown, Jon Brow
15th August 2007, 10:52
Durex.

Oh, not that type of rubber?

:s hock:

Daniel
15th August 2007, 12:17
The GT from 2004.
have you checked on mytyres.co.uk or blackcircles.com for alternative rubber?

LotusElise
15th August 2007, 12:33
No, I haven't, but thanks for the tip.

I normally buy tyres locally.

Brown, Jon Brow
15th August 2007, 12:38
Does different makes of tyre actually make any difference to everyday road use?

Daniel
15th August 2007, 12:38
No, I haven't, but thanks for the tip.

I normally buy tyres locally.
Tonnes of alternatives online :)

Daniel
15th August 2007, 12:39
Does different makes of tyre actually make any difference to everyday road use?
Is the pope evil looking?

Brown, Jon Brow
15th August 2007, 12:40
Is the pope evil looking?

He is on halloween ;)

Daniel
15th August 2007, 12:43
He is on halloween ;)
To get back to your question. As they say your tyres are the single most important part of your car in regards to safety. Why was there a Spyker in the lead of a Grand Prix this year? Because he had the best tyres for the conditions. Now of course you can't have 10 different sets of tyres and keep on changing them around when the conditions changing but you can buy a good tyre which will work well in most conditions :)

Brown, Jon Brow
15th August 2007, 12:47
To get back to your question. As they say your tyres are the single most important part of your car in regards to safety. Why was there a Spyker in the lead of a Grand Prix this year? Because he had the best tyres for the conditions. Now of course you can't have 10 different sets of tyres and keep on changing them around when the conditions changing but you can buy a good tyre which will work well in most conditions :)

But on the roads you aren't trying to win a Grand Prix.

Surely at normal speeds there isn't much difference.

Daniel
15th August 2007, 12:51
But on the roads you aren't trying to win a Grand Prix.

Surely at normal speeds there isn't much difference.
Ok Jon. Next time you're putting new rubber on the Punto go to mytyres.com and buy some cheng wing foo dung flung tyres :) Or better yet buy some Tigar tyres. I've got personal experience of these things and they're absolutely rubbish. You'll see what I'm talking about then.

Brown, Jon Brow
15th August 2007, 12:56
Well maybe there is some difference when you buy Tiger tyers, but is there really any noticable difference between the major brands, Dunlop, Michelin, Bridgestone, BF Goodrich, Pirelli, Goodyear etc....

Daniel
15th August 2007, 13:03
Well maybe there is some difference when you buy Tiger tyers, but is there really any noticable difference between the major brands, Dunlop, Michelin, Bridgestone, BF Goodrich, Pirelli, Goodyear etc....
Not Tiger :p Tigar :mark:

I suggested earlier in the thread that as long as you buy a brand such as the ones you're suggest then you'll be alright :) I reccomend buying tyres mail order and getting them fitted locally if possible. Some local tyre places sell no-name crap for the same price as you could buy a good tyre and get it fitted :mark: Caroline paid more for some Pneumant tyres than what I paid for the Michelin's currently on the front of my car and the Continentals which are going on the back of my car soon :mark:

Brown, Jon Brow
15th August 2007, 13:35
Back to the original question I am on Michelin's as is my mums Renault, while my dads Kia :o is on Kumho tyres.

I must say the this is one of the best threads on the forum. Certainly they best about tyres. :dozey:

Drew
15th August 2007, 15:12
I have 2 Capitol (not capital probably just as bad as Tigar) and 2 michelin tyres.

I would imagine having better tyres on the front is a good idea. Considering most people have front wheel drive cars.

But then when it comes to rotating the tyres, ask somebody else :p :

555-04Q2
15th August 2007, 16:02
Durex edible, ribbed, extra large...oops...I mean Bridgestone Potenza 195/15/50's :p :

luvracin
15th August 2007, 16:17
If in doubt, always refer to what tyres were installed on the car from the factory. It should be in the drivers manual for the car.

During the vehicle development, those tyres would have been used in the suspension, braking, acceleration development.

If those tyres are too expensive/hard to find, at least use the OE tyre as reference when discussing with the "tyre guys".

If you are an expert yourself, then you can do whatever you want. :p :

Daniel
15th August 2007, 18:05
I have 2 Capitol (not capital probably just as bad as Tigar) and 2 michelin tyres.

I would imagine having better tyres on the front is a good idea. Considering most people have front wheel drive cars.

But then when it comes to rotating the tyres, ask somebody else :p :
Well Michelin reccomends having your best tyres on the rear :mark:

I don't know if I agree. Yes, if your wheels are worn they are more prone to puncture and a puncture on the rear will give you some nice oversteer but I'd have thought this less common than needing to brake heavily and needing your front wheels to be in tip top condition so you have a bit of steering and brakes. Plus us motorsport people are switch on and ready for anything to happen and will easily dispatch hellish oversteer with a quick application of full opposite lock and everything will be OK :s mokin:

Stuartf12007
15th August 2007, 22:27
my car wears expensive BF Goodrich, very nice tyre indeed.

AndySpeed
15th August 2007, 23:19
Durex edible, ribbed, extra large...oops...I mean Bridgestone Potenza 195/15/50's :p :

Damn... beat me to it :p :

Allyc85
15th August 2007, 23:46
Cheapos on the back of my car.

Then Pirelli P5000's are on the front of my Escort and they are rubbish! They are great at cutting through deep water, ok in the dry but in the damo they are shocking and understeer like you wouldnt believe! I guess the only decent thing is the tyre squeel....