[WRC] WRC Rally Sweden 2018 - February 15-18:

[tc10a]

Date proposed for Rally Sweden 2018:

February 15-18 is proposed as the date for Rally Sweden 2018.

Rally Sweden together with WRC Promoter have agreed around the proposal February 15-18 as the date for Swedens WRC-event 2018. FIA World Motorsport Council needs to confirm the date which will happen after the summer. The date is with all influencing factors the most reasonable one and from now on we will work in this direction says Rally Swedens CEO Glenn Olsson.
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http://www.rallysweden.com/en/date-proposed-for-2018-buy-your-festivalpass-today/

[Simmi]

One week later then for Sweden it looks like. I should be there all being well.

[hari]

Rallye Guide 1 is available:
http://www.rallysweden.com/en/competitors/

[SubaruNorway]

Rallye Guide 1 is available:
http://www.rallysweden.com/en/competitors/

Did they remove it again?

Edit: Only on the Swedish site for now. http://rallysweden.com/tavlande/dokument/

[MTA]

Looks very similar to the 2017 route except that Knon has been replaced by Torntorp.

[hari]

Looks very similar to the 2017 route except that Knon has been replaced by Torntorp.


Shakedown, Karlstad, Hof-Finnskog, Svullrya, Vargasen, Likenäs are identical to 2017

Röjden, Torsby, Hagfors have some changes

Torntorp (last time driven 2014) and Torsby sprint (part of Torsby stage driven last year) are new in the itinerary

[Rallyper]

Worst possible route in 2018. For swedes. For Norweigans and Värmland inhabitants, no problem. Gets more and more a local western Swedish rally. Bääähhhh!!!!

[tc10a]

Worst possible route in 2018. For swedes. For Norweigans and Värmland inhabitants, no problem. Gets more and more a local western Swedish rally. Bääähhhh!!!!

And what makes 2018 itinerary soo much worse than 2017 or even the years before? I have been in Rally Sweden in last 8 years and it was not that much different to spectate in all that years, being a Swede or a Norwegian or a German. Sometimes it really looks one has to find anything just to make a bad comment...

[Rallyper]

And what makes 2018 itinerary soo much worse than 2017 or even the years before? I have been in Rally Sweden in last 8 years and it was not that much different to spectate in all that years, being a Swede or a Norwegian or a German. Sometimes it really looks one has to find anything just to make a bad comment...

I can give you thousand reasons. RS isn´t what it used to be. Same stages all over again. Stages in the middle of nowhere for Swedes living outside Värmland. No new thinking, only bcs they want to stay in Karlstad, but should needed to be in places where stages can be held properly. Would rather see complete new thinking about where to have the HQ and the whole rally.

[Myrvold]

I can give you thousand reasons. RS isn´t what it used to be. Same stages all over again. Stages in the middle of nowhere for Swedes living outside Värmland. No new thinking, only bcs they want to stay in Karlstad, but should needed to be in places where stages can be held properly. Would rather see complete new thinking about where to have the HQ and the whole rally.

Then someone should show up with money to move it... They stay where the money and interest are (combined)

[ESTR]

People are constantly complaining about everything. And it going to worse. Be happy that there is still rally. Some of us haven't that luck of being watch it closely...

[Rallyper]

Not complaining. Just critizicing. And I´ve been around watching Swedish Rally since the 60´s.

[AndyRAC]

I can give you thousand reasons. RS isn´t what it used to be. Same stages all over again. Stages in the middle of nowhere for Swedes living outside Värmland. No new thinking, only bcs they want to stay in Karlstad, but should needed to be in places where stages can be held properly. Would rather see complete new thinking about where to have the HQ and the whole rally.

Isn't this the issue with a lot of WRC events? The same stages year in, year out - it all gets a bit repetitive.

Whatever happened to the epic Jutbo stage? Remember it causing carnage back in 1998; Radstrom went off, Sainz had a 360 spin, McRae had electrical issues, etc

[SubaruNorway]

Finland is good at this, always something new or run in the other direction.

[Hartusvuori]

Finland is good at this, always something new or run in the other direction.

And it looks like it'll be like this in 2018 as well. The core and the base will remain, but we are expecting to see something new again.

Sweden's route lacks imagination. If I were to make decision about going, this itinerary doesn't make it more interesting.

[Rallyper]

And it looks like it'll be like this in 2018 as well. The core and the base will remain, but we are expecting to see something new again.

Sweden's route lacks imagination. If I were to make decision about going, this itinerary doesn't make it more interesting.

+1

[tommeke_B]

Well, it's not that easy for the organizers. They're supported (a lot I suppose) by the Värmland region, so all Swedish stages are in that region. They can't go more up North (because they'll go outside Värmland, and may not have similar support for the rally there), going South is a big risk with the unpredictable climate. Colin's Crest is probably a must-do for many sponsors... So it doesn't leave much space for something very different from what we have now and had over the last few years.

Anyway, I'm fine with the itinerary, looks quite ok for spectating. I just booked the flights and rental car, rented a house just North of Torsby. Will be my 5th Rally Sweden, already looking forward. :)

[rallye-vid]

Well guys, it will be mine & friends very first rally sweden.

What's the best accomondation (region/price) for 3 people? We will go with a car from germany.

Thanks :)

[Rallyper]

Well guys, it will be mine & friends very first rally sweden.

What's the best accomondation (region/price) for 3 people? We will go with a car from germany.

Thanks :)

Start looking around Torsby. B&B.

[DocMS]

This is my 2nd year going back. We have accommodation & flights booked. Anyone any suggestions on cheapest place for car rental? Prices seem very high this year.


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[BleAivano]

Rally Sweden will allow national cars for this edition of RS. http://www.emotorsport.se/nyheter.php?in=2&nyhets_id=14684
Allowed 4WD cars are Mbi Mirage R5 + EVO 7-9, Subaru Impreza 2002-2005, older Super 2000 cars from Ford, Peugeot and Skoda.
Allowed 2WD cars are Honda Civic Type R, Ford Fiesta St and 3 Renault Clio models.
Entry is open since Friday.

[pantealex]

Entries are open

[pantealex]

http://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/supplementary-regulations-2018.pdf

4.3.2 Classes

New R4 is not included

(and luckily they don´t call that Mirage "R5", it´s just Mirage)

[liposh]

BTW. Interesting thing is that eligible S2000 cars for national championship are Ford Fiesta, Skoda Fabia and Peugeot 207. I think it is the same for international championship. Does it mean all other brands have outdated homologation? I know Punto S2000 is useless for racing but I thought it has still valid homologation.

[pantealex]

BTW. Interesting thing is that eligible S2000 cars for national championship are Ford Fiesta, Skoda Fabia and Peugeot 207. I think it is the same for international championship. Does it mean all other brands have outdated homologation? I know Punto S2000 is useless for racing but I thought it has still valid homologation.

Those national "S2000" cars are all outdated, with FIA spec you can (and must) enter RC2-class.

[Rally Power]

http://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/supplementary-regulations-2018.pdf
4.3.2 Classes
New R4 is not included

I’ve read somewhere that R4 will only be allowed in WRC from 2019, although they’ll run in Regional and National series next year. As it’s a new category (the kit will be homologated during the next days), probably FIA doesn’t want to have another “full house” category, like this year WRC Trophy…

[pantealex]

I’ve read somewhere that R4 will only be allowed in WRC from 2019, although they’ll run in Regional and National series next year. As it’s a new category (the kit will be homologated during the next days), probably FIA doesn’t want to have another “full house” category, like this year WRC Trophy…

But it should be inside RC2, S2000 and old N are in there without many entries. I see no problem.

[aykutbilir]

There is a point that you miss with R4. It is market purpose is different. Cars will be eligable for Non-european WRC events as Oreca mentioned.
The reason is creating your R class car with local ASN approved car.


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[Andre Oliveira]

First 3 entries

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRmJkTbXkAEB2aN?format=jpg&name=large

[racerx1979]

First 3 entries

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRmJkTbXkAEB2aN?format=jpg&name=large

I actually like this and it's great for spectators too.

[Simmi]

Here's the actual link in case anyone wants to bookmark it: http://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/entry-list-wrc/

[Andre Oliveira]

Hyundai army allready on entries

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSkU2WcWAAYFIdM?format=jpg&name=large

[CWJ]

Wow Seb Marshall moved to NZL

[Toyoda]

Hi Folks, just wondering if there are people I could hook in with cruising around for the Sweden rally, I'm pondering going as I have a conference in Belgium the week before. Not to keen to do it myself as it looks to be a bit of a mission without some local knowledge
Cheers
Andrew

[KiwiWRCfan]

Hi Folks, just wondering if there are people I could hook in with cruising around for the Sweden rally, I'm pondering going as I have a conference in Belgium the week before. Not to keen to do it myself as it looks to be a bit of a mission without some local knowledge
Cheers
Andrew
I can personally vouch for Toyoda - he is a top bloke who has plenty of interesting adventures and stories he could share with you.

[Andre Oliveira]

Kevin Abbring / Pieter Tsjoen in

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTCT0UoW4AEu-vl?format=jpg&name=large

[Simmi]

Less than a week until entries close I believe and they haven't exactly been flying in for Sweden. Not from what we've seen on the website anyway. Hoping for the big surge after the launch tomorrow, and most of the factory teams yet to go up.

I did read today that Mathias Adielsson will do the rally in the Pontus Tidemand Racing Fabia. His planned full-season ERC campaign fell through which is a shame.

[Andre Oliveira]

Nikara in Ford Fiesta R5 of TMR. Interesting

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNy2atW4AILHfw?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTNy2avWAAMXGyJ?format=jpg&name=large

[Essaj]

So no Nordgren? :confused:

[pantealex]

So no Nordgren? :confused:

Nordgren has never driven R5 in winter conditions, that could be the reason.

[Andre Oliveira]

Tamara Molinaro in Fiesta R5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTRyyupWsAY4f2u?format=jpg&name=large

[DocMS]

Mads Ostberg in with Citroen in third car for Sweden also.


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[Hartusvuori]

Less than a week until entries close I believe and they haven't exactly been flying in for Sweden. Not from what we've seen on the website anyway. Hoping for the big surge after the launch tomorrow, and most of the factory teams yet to go up.

I did read today that Mathias Adielsson will do the rally in the Pontus Tidemand Racing Fabia. His planned full-season ERC campaign fell through which is a shame.

31 entries now and the most of WRC entries still missing. It's normal Sweden. If it goes over 50, it's a lot. They lack in R2 entries.

[Tarmop]

Shouldn`t lack so much now, as its a mandatory event for JWRC.

[Myrvold]

A good Historic field as well. Still missing some Gr.A 4x4 cars, hopefully they will come shortly. Fairly nice winter conditions at the moment as well, might come 15cm snow on the Norwegian side the next days as well :)
I think it will be a nice weekend in the forest!

[Simmi]

Al Rajhi will be there in his Fiesta

Also good to see Protasov back after two years away from the WRC. He returns at R3 level though.

http://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/entry-list-wrc/

[satukata]

Al Rajhi will be there in his Fiesta

Also good to see Protasov back after two years away from the WRC. He returns at R3 level though.

http://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/entry-list-wrc/

and very nice to see Jarkko nikara back in business!

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTXoFbFX4AwVpdh?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTXoFbHXUAArU5G?format=jpg&name=large

[Bartolbia84]

Probability entry Lorenzo Bertelli

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Probability entry Lorenzo Bertelli

Confirmed.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTl3OWvWkAAVBYO?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTpyokjX4AAFbKl?format=jpg&name=large

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTqGsVDWkAAqzMS?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTqHVGVW4AAdBhL?format=jpg&name=large

[Simmi]

So in the end quite a nice entry list. The relaxed homolgation rules and JWRC definitely gave numbers a boost.

Still some hours to go I guess so a chance for a few more? Is there anyone not on the list people were expecting? Apart from a late Christmas miracle from Marcus Gronholm.

[tc10a]

Is there anyone not on the list people were expecting? Apart from a late Christmas miracle from Marcus Gronholm.

Gröndal, Brynildsen etc. for example

[pantealex]

So in the end quite a nice entry list. The relaxed homolgation rules and JWRC definitely gave numbers a boost.

Still some hours to go I guess so a chance for a few more? Is there anyone not on the list people were expecting? Apart from a late Christmas miracle from Marcus Gronholm.

M-Sport WRC2 drivers maybe ?

Norwegians ? (Henning, Brynildsen, Gröndal etc.)

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTrRER7WkAE5Ron?format=jpg&name=large

[Tarmop]

H. Solberg or someone "surprising" will start Ostberg`s Fiesta WRC. List probably not locked for the very last minute.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTrkF_OW0AAfYXl?format=jpg&name=small

[Simmi]

As usual we will wait until shakedown to see whether Henning comes through or not. I hope so.

[EstWRC]

As usual we will wait until shakedown to see whether Henning comes through or not. I hope so.

THIS!!! how many times we have seen it before?

basically every other rally last season...

[Andre Oliveira]

But not in Sweden ;) he only changed car eheh

[Myrvold]

I actually think that driver that would surprise us could be Marcus Grönholm. I know that Prodrive was the entrant, and the ones running that Subaru in Portugal for Grönholm, but it was a car from Adapta.

[racerx1979]

I actually think that driver that would surprise us could be Marcus Grönholm. I know that Prodrive was the entrant, and the ones running that Subaru in Portugal for Grönholm, but it was a car from Adapta.

I thought of Gronholm as well.

[Tarmop]

Lets hope he gets one. Should be plenty available.

[pantealex]

http://rallysweden.com/en/the-race/entries-historic/

Historic event has numbers.

[pantealex]

http://rallysweden.com/en/many-entries-for-rally-sweden-2018/

67 cars total

15x WRC2

14x JWRC (16x WRC3)

"The entry lists are planned to be published on Friday, after approval by the FIA."

Edit.
Most probably those are all names (67 names)
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries/42875-rally-sweden-2018/

[Sulland]

Good entrylist for Sweden.
Would have liked to see a top driver in a Mirage to measure it vs the Top R5 cars on snow.
Jarkko Nikara will be fun to follow in a Mäkinen Fiesta R5. He might be a real surprize, if he finds his rythm!

Also a couple of cars i Historic.
A swede in a Alpine A310, a few quattros and Mazdas, and a Gt4.

[Myrvold]

I was really looking forward to listen to the Triumph V8 in the forest, but that car is placed on the waiting list :(

[jbmarcus21]

Full entrylist include 67 crews : 14WRC 2018 + 1WRC ex-generation + 26R5 ► http://bit.ly/2ysJSOv

[pantealex]

Full entrylist include 67 crews : 14WRC 2018 + 1WRC ex-generation + 26R5 ► http://bit.ly/2ysJSOv

Direct link:
http://rallysweden.com/en/competitors/entries-wrc/

[tc10a]

Full entrylist include 67 crews : 14WRC 2018 + 1WRC ex-generation + 26R5 ► http://bit.ly/2ysJSOv

+4 national homologated R5

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Rally Sweden ► http://bit.ly/2ysJSOv

[racerx1979]

+4 national homologated R5

Will be nice to see how the Mirages do even though the development for these cars is not on the same level.

[rp]

Will be nice to see how the Mirages do even though the development for these cars is not on the same level.

Shame that there is no fast drivers behind the wheel of the Mirage. Ketomaa would have been at least some kind of indicator...

[Myrvold]

+4 national homologated R5

And one Lancer Evo 4 from Italy running in the National class !? (I still believe that it must be an error!)

[PLuto]

And one Lancer Evo 4 from Italy running in the National class !? (I still believe that it must be an error!)

In approved list by FIA there is Evo IX.

[dodge33cymru]

Seems like all the cheap flights back to the UK are really expensive, event must be getting a lot more popular over here (unless there's something else big going on in Oslo that weekend!). Pity.

[RS]

Seems like all the cheap flights back to the UK are really expensive, event must be getting a lot more popular over here (unless there's something else big going on in Oslo that weekend!). Pity.

Is that on the Sunday night? Monday might be cheaper.

[pantealex]

And one Lancer Evo 4 from Italy running in the National class !? (I still believe that it must be an error!)

well, EvoX is only RC2 Mitsubishi available, all other evo´s including Evo9 are too old cars and belongs to NAT4-class, simple!

[dodge33cymru]

Is that on the Sunday night? Monday might be cheaper.Saturday night, Sunday day or night, Monday - all a lot more than usual.

[Myrvold]

well, EvoX is only RC2 Mitsubishi available, all other evo´s including Evo9 are too old cars and belongs to NAT4-class, simple!

Of course, but Pluto's post is more possible to believe, that it is the Evo 9.

[Nabbetuss]

Seems like all the cheap flights back to the UK are really expensive, event must be getting a lot more popular over here (unless there's something else big going on in Oslo that weekend!). Pity.

Its because there is national winter vacation in the school in Norway and Sweden that week and the week after, depends on where you live in the country.

[BleAivano]

Its because there is national winter vacation in the school in Norway and Sweden that week and the week after, depends on where you live in the country.

A more detailed list of when the different parts of the country have their sports break. http://sportlov.org/sportlov-vecka-for-vecka/

[DocMS]

Seems like all the cheap flights back to the UK are really expensive, event must be getting a lot more popular over here (unless there's something else big going on in Oslo that weekend!). Pity.

We are flying into Stockholm. I know it’s around 1 hour extra drive but flight was a lot cheaper and also car rental worked out cheaper from there.


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[Rallyper]

We are flying into Stockholm. I know it’s around 1 hour extra drive but flight was a lot cheaper and also car rental worked out cheaper from there.


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Maybe also Landvetter Gothenburg is alternative? Have no idea myself, but don´t think ARN is bad either.

[tommeke_B]

In terms of distance Gothenburg is similar to Stockholm ARN indeed. Also check Stockholm Bromma, it's a little closer, small airport, easy to arrive and leave. I flew to Bromma 3 times. Also checking Stockholm Nykoping (lots of flights with Ryanair) can be interesting. This year we're flying to Oslo Gardermoen, which is the closest to the rally now. Before booking it's interesting not only to compare the costs of the flights themselves, but also check the price of the rental cars. I don't know why, but the prices of rental cars can differ a lot from time to time and from airport to airport.

[PLuto]

well, EvoX is only RC2 Mitsubishi available, all other evo´s including Evo9 are too old cars and belongs to NAT4-class, simple!

I think Evo IX has still valid homologation.

[Mirek]

I think Evo IX has still valid homologation.

It looks like it doesn't. At least it's not in the list on FIA website: https://www.fia.com/file/65105/download/9293?token=P01P9A00 (only Evo X inside).

EDIT (after private chat with PLuto): It's still permited in FIA events under exception.

[KKS]

I know that this year is last one for IX evo's at FIA championships

[Mirek]

I know that this year is last one for IX evo's at FIA championships

Based on this FIA document it's allowed till 2020: https://www.fia.com/file/54259/download/9217?token=fLc32BB6

[pantealex]

Based on this FIA document it's allowed till 2020: https://www.fia.com/file/54259/download/9217?token=fLc32BB6

Strange because Evo9 was not allowed in WRC events last year. (it was allowed in ERC but not in WRC)

[Mirek]

Maybe the exception doesn't apply to WRC?

[PLuto]

2.7.1.c Unless there is an indication to the contrary on the homologation form excluding certain evolutions, Groups A, N, R and RGT Automobiles are permitted, during a further period of four years following the expiry of their homologation, to participate in international Rallies other than those of the World Rally Championship.

[baffo]

Someone have the previous year's map of spectator access and parking?
Spectators guide is only with Rally pass or is avaiable in the web site?
Thank you to all

[satnav]

Someone have the previous year's map of spectator access and parking?
Spectators guide is only with Rally pass or is avaiable in the web site?
Thank you to all

If you go to http://rallysweden.com/en/the-race/

And then just select whatever stage you want to see , the info is there , this is last years stages and the new ones this year aren't updated yet but should be soon hopefully.

All stages are now updated

[KKS]

Based on this FIA document it's allowed till 2020: https://www.fia.com/file/54259/download/9217?token=fLc32BB6
Goooood neeeews :) Long live EvoIX !

[steve.mandzij]

2.7.1.c Unless there is an indication to the contrary on the homologation form excluding certain evolutions, Groups A, N, R and RGT Automobiles are permitted, during a further period of four years following the expiry of their homologation, to participate in international Rallies other than those of the World Rally Championship.Does this mean 307s, Xsaras, C4s etc. Are no longer allowed to compete?

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[dupanton]

Does this mean 307s, Xsaras, C4s etc. Are no longer allowed to compete?

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Not in international events, no. Homologation can be extended for other rallies I think.

[PLuto]

Does this mean 307s, Xsaras, C4s etc. Are no longer allowed to compete?

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This cars were banned for WRC events few years ago...

[Tarmop]

They weren`t allowed to compete internationally since the 1600 cm3 came. So 7 seasons.

[Micke_VOC]

So now i am back in the forum after a long time away.
Yesterday was a terrible weather day here in the area for Rally Sweden, rain, hard winds and many + degrees.
Lost around 20-30 cm of snow in my city on 24 hours. But looks much better in the forest.
If the cold come back now as they says there will be perfect conditions, on the small roads were the stages are this weather good because makes more ice. And there are a LOT of snow, from 50 cm to 120 cm of snow were the stages are.

[PLuto]

Welcome back, Micke_VOC http://www.mothering.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif

[Micke_VOC]

Welcome back, Micke_VOC http://www.mothering.com/forum/images/smilies/wave.gif
Thanks Pluto !
Had a busy year behind me so no time for sitting here every day =)

[HarriK]

Now it looks like that I might come to spectate Rally Sweden with my 3 friends. Looking for apartment from Thursday to Sunday. Any hints would be good :) I have checked AirBnB. Looks like that nearest available are near Eleverum,Norway. Send PM if you have something to offer :)

[RS]

Is Rovanperä too young to drive in Sweden? Seems a bit of a strange one for him to miss otherwise.

[rp]

Is Rovanperä too young to drive in Sweden? Seems a bit of a strange one for him to miss otherwise.

Yes, not possible in Sweden. At the same time Kalle will compete the 2nd round of the Finnish Championship, Vaakuna Ralli in Mikkeli.

[Tarmop]

So P. Solberg with a historic in Sweden.
https://twitter.com/RallySweden/status/957660845311393797

[DocMS]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to buy a service pass to any of the manufactures service area?


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[AnttiL]

https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/01/29/rally-sweden-2018/

I wrote my route preview again.

[BleAivano]

https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/01/29/rally-sweden-2018/

I wrote my route preview again.

Weather should be ok. It will get colder and more snow is expected. https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/ortsprognoser/q/Torsby/Sunne/2667877#ort=2715953,59.366665/16.5;flik=0,tab=0,chart=1

[Myrvold]

Weather should be ok indeed, only lost around 10cm of snowdepth in the mild weather (with some rain) last week. And it will come more than 10cm of snow this week if the prognosis is somewhat correct.
Also, the rain that came, was followed by some days with sub-zero degrees, but no snow, which made for a very solid ice-base(on top of some more loose snow).
It really needs to be a "heat"wave the week the rally is to get problems with the conditions this year, not at least on the Norwegian side that once again looks solid.

[Lead]

Good news about the weather. Keep us up to date about latest conditions.

[SubaruNorway]

No more snow please! 100km north of Hof-Finnskog

[EstWRC]

Toyota is testing this week in finland, Tänak starts on Friday, i dont know about the other drivers schedule

so, drag your finnish asses there and film every driver for me please.

thank you

[SubaruNorway]

https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/01/29/rally-sweden-2018/

I wrote my route preview again.

Rämmen and Fredriksberg wasn't cancelled but only run once, in the end it wouldn't have been a problem to run them twice in 2016.

Has anyone been over the new start of Torsby yet? Some video would be great.

[steve.mandzij]

https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.com/2018/01/29/rally-sweden-2018/

I wrote my route preview again.Is "itgetsfasternow" a reference to Solberg's Ouninpohja record? :D

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[Lead]

Has anyone been over the new start of Torsby yet? Some video would be great.

That stage happens to run in the dark? I was planning to attend it, but if I remember correctly from itinerary it was a last one on the Friday... so not so good for spectators and also for filming?

[SubaruNorway]

That stage happens to run in the dark? I was planning to attend it, but if I remember correctly from itinerary it was a last one on the Friday... so not so good for spectators and also for filming?

Last one on Friday at 16:56 and sprint version at 19:26 on Saturday but also powerstage at 12:18 so you will be able to reach the start after doing Likenäs twice. If you do it in the dark it's quite nice on the bank outside the last left hander since there are some lights, it's in my video from last year. https://youtu.be/_Onyg-rEWHI

[Rallyper]

Swedish Television full programme. For you being visitors on the Rally:

Torsdag:
» 19:30 - 21:00: (SVT2) Svenska rallyt, Uppsnack och ss1, SuperSpecial Stage Karlstad 1, live.

Fredag:
» 21:45 - 22:45: (SVT2) Sammandrag, Studioreportage.

Lördag:
» 13:30 - 16:15: (SVT1) Direkt från Rally Sweden Historic, ss16, Torsby Sprint samt målgången. Även Rally Sweden WRC, Vargåsen 2 live.
» 21:45 - 22:45: (SVT2) Sammandrag, Studioreportage.

Söndag:
» 12:00 - 13:30: (SVT1) Direkt från Torsby 2 och målgång.
» 17:00 - 17:55: (SVT1) Sammandrag Rally Sweden 2017.

[AnttiL]

Last one on Friday at 16:56 and sprint version at 19:26 on Saturday but also powerstage at 12:18 so you will be able to reach the start after doing Likenäs twice. If you do it in the dark it's quite nice on the bank outside the last left hander since there are some lights, it's in my video from last year. https://youtu.be/_Onyg-rEWHI

The sprint version doesn't have the new start, it's more like a shortened version of last year's Torsby with just a short bit before joining the end part, which concludes all runs of Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

[AnttiL]

Is "itgetsfasternow" a reference to Solberg's Ouninpohja record? :D

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what else could it be? Be sure to read my Ouninpohja trilogy on the blog ;)

[SubaruNorway]

The sprint version doesn't have the new start, it's more like a shortened version of last year's Torsby. But all three stages share the same ending, which concludes all of Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

I know, that's why it called sprint ;) Starts just after the airport entry then. I think i have driven the new road once but i don't remember it had any good places.

[baffo]

Someone knows if possible to reach the start of Vargasen or it was close to spectators last years?
Thanks

[WRCstratos]

Back in 2014 we wanted to get to the Vargasen stage at the start, but the road was closed here: https://www.google.at/maps/place/60°05'02.9"N+13°26'52.1"E/@60.0841389,13.4456169,457m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d60.0 841404!4d13.4478036

But back then that road was both route to start and from finish (Vargasen was longer in 2014). There were some people parking and walking in though.

[Rallyper]

Johan Kristoffersson, World RX Champion to start in Rally Sweden in Skoda Fabia R5.

[Simmi]

Johan Kristoffersson, World RX Champion to start in Rally Sweden in Skoda Fabia R5.

Cool news. Glad to see him do the rally again. How has that worked then - has he taken over someone else's entry. Or organisers just let him in?

[PLuto]

Cool news. Glad to see him do the rally again. How has that worked then - has he taken over someone else's entry. Or organisers just let him in?

He was added as late entry.

[Rallyper]

Someone knows if possible to reach the start of Vargasen or it was close to spectators last years?
Thanks

You can PM me.

[CivEngine]

Maybe it's a bit of 'off topic' what I'm gonna say but...

This will be my first time in Rally Sweden and as I am from southern europe I'm pretty afraid about the weather and, specifically, the COLD weather. So here I go, Which kind of wardrobe I need to bring in order not to get a flu? Thanks in advance.

[PLuto]

Maybe it's a bit of 'off topic' what I'm gonna say but...

This will be my first time in Rally Sweden and as I am from southern europe I'm pretty afraid about the weather and, specifically, the COLD weather. So here I go, Which kind of wardrobe I need to bring in order not to get a flu? Thanks in advance.

I remember one Rallye Monte Carlo, where one friend from Madeira was with us. He was completely unprepared with cloths, for first time he saw the snow... ...and survire :) I can only recommend proper clothes - thermal underwear, winter shoes, winter trousers, winter coat, gloves, winter cap (you can buy an original one in Sweden too (http://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/official_merch_staende.jpg).

[SubaruNorway]

And these things are really good to have, stops you from getting snow in your shoes, especially good to have this year together with wooly socks.
https://www.gsport.no/produkt/142227/norheim-litlos-gamasje-jr#002100?utm_source=kelkoono&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=kelkooclick&utm_term=NORHEIM+Litlos+Gamasje+Jr.

[Hartusvuori]

Maybe it's a bit of 'off topic' what I'm gonna say but...

This will be my first time in Rally Sweden and as I am from southern europe I'm pretty afraid about the weather and, specifically, the COLD weather. So here I go, Which kind of wardrobe I need to bring in order not to get a flu? Thanks in advance.

Pluto answered already and I can second what he said. Dressing in layers is important. Long, thermal underwear, maybe a t-shirt and winter jacket + trousers is enough for walking from car to the spectating point. Something extra to wear when spectating, a fleece or a hoodie, it can be hours standing still. Woolly hat is a must (actually the official one is very good!), for hands gloves topped with mittens do the job. Good and warm shoes are the most important part - and a scarf.

Spectating in winter is a lot about proper gear. It gets unpleasant if you get really cold. Digging a camp in the snow or diģging rally cars out of snow helps! At least food don't go bad in warmth, it may freeze however. Atmosphere on Rally Sweden stages is always superb. I'd suggest avoiding the biggest spectator areas and find your own spot in the forest, share it with a few other fans and enjoy the winter days outside. I'm sure you'll love it.

[Allez Andruet]

In my opinion you can overact with everything else, but not with the shoes. When spectating a winter rally, one thing you just must have are proper winter shoes and wool socks, otherwise you're doomed.

[satukata]

Do you have fotos from rally sweden stages.. Interesting to see snow conditions...

[rallye-vid]

About clothes.. Just don't use any cotton stuff (especially socks or t-shirts). If it gets wet, it gets cold.

Pretty warm is merino woll. It keeps you warm even if it's wet. But expensive (=worth it).

Good shoes (Kamik i.e, or some goretex) to keep your feet dry and warm.

Cheers

[Hartusvuori]

Just out of curiosity, a question to Sweden-goers from more warm regions than the North: How much money you invest in proper winter clothing for the event or do you have all this ready in your closets?

[SubaruNorway]

Do you have fotos from rally sweden stages.. Interesting to see snow conditions...

Have a look at Rally Sweden Facebook and instagram pages

[sindroms]

Good shoes (Kamik i.e, or some goretex) to keep your feet dry and warm.

Cheers

I can vouch for this brand. Winter boots serves me ten years already. With two pair of socks (one them wool socks) and these boots I have survived even minus 28 degrees quite well. I prefer model with removable inner boot which one is recommended to take out in evening to dry before next rally day.

[rallye-vid]

Just out of curiosity, a question to Sweden-goers from more warm regions than the North: How much money you invest in proper winter clothing for the event or do you have all this ready in your closets?

New shoes (Kamik) 100€, some new merino stuff ~100€ and new trousers ~60€

[tommeke_B]

I've spent quite a lot for my first Rally Sweden, but now going for the 5th time sure it is worth it. Some good jacket, pants and especially shoes are important. Most difficult is to keep warm on shakedown, as you're standing still for a very long time. A good tip can be to put some plastic (or tree branches) under your feet, to keep the snow away from your shoes. If it's really icy like 2 years ago, it can be handy to get some "spikes" for your shoes. They cost nearly nothing and you can buy them at most petrol stations. For those who forget something or have issues with shoes or anything else, it could be interesting to know there's some sports/outdoors store in Torsby not so far from service, at the ICA Supermarket (roundabout where E16 meets E45). We've needed it once for a friend who's shoes weren't waterproof enough.

But ok, I've never had really cold temperatures in Sweden, sure there are some guys with a lot of experience on this forum to tell more about it... ;)

[spyros]

can i ask something?the road positition on the first 2 days play a role?are there any road cleaning?
Thanks.

[tommeke_B]

can i ask something?the road positition on the first 2 days play a role?are there any road cleaning?
Thanks.

If there is fresh snow yes.

[Tarmop]

There can be minimal roadcleaning or playing a snowplow. Winter roads... First passers also have to create a line each time, because national and historic use narrower tyres.

[janvanvurpa]

In my opinion you can overact with everything else, but not with the shoes. When spectating a winter rally, one thing you just must have are proper winter shoes and wool socks, otherwise you're doomed.

Everybody thinks they are smart..But after living I don't know how many winters in Sweden I often say "OK you think you're smart and the brain is important...Try this: freeze your feet and tell me how well you can think."

On shoes....make sure there is plenty of room..Air is insulator...Try the shoes with the correct socks and feet not JAMMED in...If too small by 1/2 size it smooshes the wool....foot in contact with outside of shoe and you freeze foot and brain stops functioning.
Brain stops functioning and you do stupid things. Like punching the gas on transits and getting a little sideways for 2 seconds.
then there will be international scandals in the worlds press.

I say this as somebody who win the transit over 9 other cars leaving parking in Sweden spectator area back to main road... 15km and started maybe 10 position...by the last long downhill into 1st.. Handbrake turn for last ^ onto main road.....and first car I see coming other way was cop car. Thank god he don't see because Swedish Polis are specially chosen for extra low intelligence.....in other countries they would be in a nice comfortable place with rubber walls but there it is employment...they get very excited...be relentlessly cheerful, thank them for being very nice and helpful for explaining things and ask them LOTS of complicated questions---like directions, museum opening times, act very pleasant but stupid...(All Swedes think everybody else is some degree stupider..English -10%, Norwegians -90%, Finns -110%, everybody else even stupider...so make them happy)

So to review...good socks, maybe thin by the skin then THICK wool and lots of space.

And depending on temp, an umbrella...worst thing in the world is standing in snow on feet in the rain at +2-5*

[JJFrentzen]

In your opinion who is gonna win Rally Sweden? Toyota first win last year and considering they have really good quick car this year or maybe Thierry Neuville - he was leading almost whole rally last year.

[Rallyper]

Talking boots for Rally Sweden:

Have you heard of Tay Sport from Muck Boot Company?
Is absolutely the warmest winther boot I´ve ever had. And that says a lot my friends. Bought it in a hunting store in my hometown. Buy one number bigger, as Jan VanVurpa says. Satisfaction Guaranteed. ;)

[br21]

To stay warm you need to spend a lot, no other option:)
Who's going? I'll be there.

[CivEngine]

Wow! Quite impressed with the total amount of responses here! I appreciate that! Thank you very much!

I have more or less everything under control by now. Proper jacket-trousers-thermal first layer... and boots. May be I'll take your advice and go for good socks!

Can't wait to be there enjoying the rally and the country. Fingers crossed to stay dry and warm! :)

[janvanvurpa]

Everybody thinks they are smart..But after living I don't know how many winters in Sweden I often say "OK you think you're smart and the brain is important...Try this: freeze your feet and tell me how well you can think."

On shoes....make sure there is plenty of room..Air is insulator...Try the shoes with the correct socks and feet not JAMMED in...If too small by 1/2 size it smooshes the wool....foot in contact with outside of shoe and you freeze foot and brain stops functioning.
Brain stops functioning and you do stupid things. Like punching the gas on transits and getting a little sideways for 2 seconds.
then there will be international scandals in the worlds press.

I say this as somebody who win the transit over 9 other cars leaving parking in Sweden spectator area back to main road... 15km and started maybe 10 position...by the last long downhill into 1st.. Handbrake turn for last ^ onto main road.....and first car I see coming other way was cop car. Thank god he don't see because Swedish Polis are specially chosen for extra low intelligence.....in other countries they would be in a nice comfortable place with rubber walls but there it is employment...they get very excited...be relentlessly cheerful, thank them for being very nice and helpful for explaining things and ask them LOTS of complicated questions---like directions, museum opening times, act very pleasant but stupid...(All Swedes think everybody else is some degree stupider..English -10%, Norwegians -90%, Finns -110%, everybody else even stupider...so make them happy)

So to review...good socks, maybe thin by the skin then THICK wool and lots of space.

And depending on temp, an umbrella...worst thing in the world is standing in snow on feet in the rain at +2-5*
Wait! you guys "like" what I say? About "winning" the transit from spectator area?
I was in a Citroen...Like this:
http://idata.over-blog.com/4/55/66/69/Vide-bibliotheque/Citroen-C15D-3.jpg
And like this weekend I choose tarmac tires, almost slicks.... (to a cop you say ''Hur så utsliten? Det finns knappt en repa på dom''...which is more or less ''How do you mean worn out? There hardly a mark on them''

God I hope I didn't create a scandal....I was driving a Citroen, I hope I didn't hurt their reputation and cause a loss of sales since I represented them by owning one and driving like that. (With a 1,3 motor you have to get close and hold the inside line. left turns were best because if I just drive tighter line I could get next to them in the corner...and they would give up so just a little throttle and complete the pass. left was good so I could see the edge of the road and see how much inside I could place the wheels..)

[steve.mandzij]

Wait! you guys "like" what I say? About "winning" the transit from spectator area?
I was in a Citroen...Like this:
http://idata.over-blog.com/4/55/66/69/Vide-bibliotheque/Citroen-C15D-3.jpg
And like this weekend I choose tarmac tires, almost slicks.... (to a cop you say ''Hur så utsliten? Det finns knappt en repa på dom''...which is more or less ''How do you mean worn out? There hardly a mark on them''

God I hope I didn't create a scandal....I was driving a Citroen, I hope I didn't hurt their reputation and cause a loss of sales since I represented them by owning one and driving like that. (With a 1,3 motor you have to get close and hold the inside line. left turns were best because if I just drive tighter line I could get next to them in the corner...and they would give up so just a little throttle and complete the pass. left was good so I could see the edge of the road and see how much inside I could place the wheels..)Oh my! You should have your license revoked! We can't have that on the roads!

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[Rallyper]

Wait! you guys "like" what I say? About "winning" the transit from spectator area?
I was in a Citroen...Like this:
http://idata.over-blog.com/4/55/66/69/Vide-bibliotheque/Citroen-C15D-3.jpg
And like this weekend I choose tarmac tires, almost slicks.... (to a cop you say ''Hur så utsliten? Det finns knappt en repa på dom''...which is more or less ''How do you mean worn out? There hardly a mark on them''

God I hope I didn't create a scandal....I was driving a Citroen, I hope I didn't hurt their reputation and cause a loss of sales since I represented them by owning one and driving like that. (With a 1,3 motor you have to get close and hold the inside line. left turns were best because if I just drive tighter line I could get next to them in the corner...and they would give up so just a little throttle and complete the pass. left was good so I could see the edge of the road and see how much inside I could place the wheels..)

Such a behaviour! I might report you to AnttiK7.

[Myrvold]

can i ask something?the road positition on the first 2 days play a role?are there any road cleaning?
Thanks.

It's not easy to say, if there is a snowfall right before the start, it will be a disadvantage starting first, if it snows during the stage, it's all depending on how much it snows. If the roads are completely clean, it can be an advantage running first. There was a couple of years with VW where Ogier complained about running first in Sweden, but the fact was, he had the best conditions. As the roads were solid, no snow on top, and for each car that passed, the studs ripped out some ice"dust" that made it slightly worse for the next car.

[Myrvold]

Maybe it's a bit of 'off topic' what I'm gonna say but...

This will be my first time in Rally Sweden and as I am from southern europe I'm pretty afraid about the weather and, specifically, the COLD weather. So here I go, Which kind of wardrobe I need to bring in order not to get a flu? Thanks in advance.

I use my alpine-clothing with long underwear. So, I pair up
http://bpc.h-cdn.co/assets/17/44/480x720/gallery-1509492933-smartwool-pattern-zip-base-layer.jpg
With
http://www.thesnowboardshop.co.uk/images/picture-partner-snowboard-pants-p3615-6160_image.jpg
And jump in to these shoes
https://i.imgur.com/wYGGRBp.jpg

Jacket-wise it depends on the temperature really, I tend to carry two just in case. And of course a beanie or something to keep your head warm.
While the pants can look and feel like they will get to hot, I find that the alpine/snowboard pants are extremely comfortable to wear, they also tend to have many small zippers you can open up to get a bit of air in (not directly to your underwear, but opening up the outer layer of the clothing). And this way you will avoid overheating and sweating.

It's also a bit better to start out without the warmest clothes (if you have more stuff with you). As it is easier to realize that you will get a bit cold, and put on something a bit thicker/warmer. Than if you start out with too much clothing, and start to sweat. That sweat will get cold, and then it doesn't matter what you do, if you remove clothes to get normal temperature, or put on more clothes, you will stay cold due to the sweat.

On the bright side though. It's a myth that you get a cold/flu from being cold. You need to be in contact with the virus. So being cold is just not a good feeling, but it won't make you sick. If you have contacts with loads of people and so on, you will have a bigger risk, but just from being cold, you won't get sick! :)

Lastly, welcome to the snowy rally, do you know that stages you will go to?

[Rallyper]

Drinking beer in same can as your mates is not troublefree either for getting a cold. Even worse drinking from a complete strangers can. Can be a lot of that, meeting other fans out on stages!! ;) ;)

[STI69]

In addition to double socks, I have been using those single use toe warmers between the socks at Rally Sweden: https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-Odorless-Activated/dp/B0007ZF4PE
They have also set for gloves which I used too some times when there was windchill: https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Hand-Warmer-Value-Pack/dp/B0749NTTZN/ref=pd_sbs_468_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0749NTTZN&pd_rd_r=737FQRZM2Y2E9D1E1S04&pd_rd_w=wX5EY&pd_rd_wg=yCycI&refRID=737FQRZM2Y2E9D1E1S04
I'm sure each fisherman shop is selling them all around the world.

[Myrvold]

In addition to double socks, I have been using those single use toe warmers between the socks at Rally Sweden: https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Toe-Warmers-Odorless-Activated/dp/B0007ZF4PE
They have also set for gloves which I used too some times when there was windchill: https://www.amazon.com/HotHands-Hand-Warmer-Value-Pack/dp/B0749NTTZN/ref=pd_sbs_468_10?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0749NTTZN&pd_rd_r=737FQRZM2Y2E9D1E1S04&pd_rd_w=wX5EY&pd_rd_wg=yCycI&refRID=737FQRZM2Y2E9D1E1S04
I'm sure each fisherman shop is selling them all around the world.

Yup, I actually don't use double socks, or woolen socks. Just a bit thick normal ones.
These heatpads does work for heat, just again, be careful to not get so hot that you start to sweat, or use so many that your body decided to cool down from "overheating" :)

[mknight]

In case you are wondering about the snow conditions this gives current map with updates each day (including history) and forecasts, it's for Norway but covers the whole rally area.

http://www.senorge.no/?p=senorgeny&m=bmNVEGrey%3BMapLayer_swepr%3B&l=en&d=1517493600000&e=90563%7C6537412%7C630060%7C6807330&fh=0%3B2468

(use the switches on left)

[dimviii]

Makinen added that he was already looking forward to going up against Ogier on ground more familiar for Toyota.
“It’s tougher for Ogier to win in Sweden, this is our territory,” he said. “Our drivers are thinking this: we know Sweden, we compare last year’s car and we know where we are – we are stronger. The others are too, but we know where we are. We compare last year’s suspension parts, for example, and we know the work we have done since last year, it’s a lot better now.

https://www.motorsport-news.co.uk/news/rallying-news/wrc/toyota-can-tame-ogier-in-sweden-says-makinen/

[mknight]

Certainly Sweden and Finland are the two rallies where Toyota is likely to be the strongest. Just like last year when they won both events.
That said last year after Sweden they had 4 rallies without podium (all due to being too slow) and after Finland they again were not on podium for last 4 rallies (only good pace was in Australia).

[steve.mandzij]

Certainly Sweden and Finland are the two rallies where Toyota is likely to be the strongest. Just like last year when they won both events.
That said last year after Sweden they had 4 rallies without podium (all due to being too slow) and after Finland they again were not on podium for last 4 rallies (only good pace was in Australia).To be fair the lack of pace early on was mostly bad design. In Mexico, Argentina and to an extent Portugal the cars had major overheating issues. The pace was good in Sardegna with a podium for Latvala and power stage victory for Lappi, and in Poland Latvala was third until his gearbox gave up. PS victory for him too.

The pace was off in Spain and Germany, although that might be down to the drivers (Latvala retiring early with failures/damage and Lappi and Hanninen remaining). WRGB lack of pace was surprising but down to bad design as well, with all the mud collecting in the rear. Pace in Australia was good.

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[satukata]

Toyota will be really strong in Sweden. They have been testing so much on snow this winter! All drivers test 4days atleast! Tomorrow I´m going to follow JM test near Jyväskylä. it's really a big advantage that they get tested without any restriction in the Jyväskylä area.

I think Latvala is strong favourite for win but Ott can make 2nd surprise. If there is lot of snow in friday stages can Lappi be leader friday night. 7th starting position is so big advantage. Very interesting rally comeing.. Can´t wait!

[Hartusvuori]

To be fair the lack of pace early on was mostly bad design. In Mexico, Argentina and to an extent Portugal the cars had major overheating issues. The pace was good in Sardegna with a podium for Latvala and power stage victory for Lappi, and in Poland Latvala was third until his gearbox gave up. PS victory for him too.

The pace was off in Spain and Germany, although that might be down to the drivers (Latvala retiring early with failures/damage and Lappi and Hanninen remaining). WRGB lack of pace was surprising but down to bad design as well, with all the mud collecting in the rear. Pace in Australia was good.

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Hänninen finished 4th in both Germany and Catalunya. In Catalunya he was 55" off Meeke. In Germany all three crews scored fastest times. Not exactly off pace in my opinion.

[Sulland]

Clothing for sweden, tips: generally is many thin layers better than few and thick. It is air between the layers that keeps you warm.

Wool as inner layer. Wool is warm even when wet/sweaty.
turtle neck with zip is smart. Zip to adjust air in/out.
Next layer on upper body could be a fleece sweater with zip, or a jacket.
In addition bring a warm thick knitted sweater of wool, to put on when standing still to watch.
Outer layer need to be wind proof, and water repellant in case of rain. An alpine/ slalom two piece dress is perfect.

last but not least, a wool tight knitted beanie, could be with fleece. 60-70% of heat loss from the body happens through the head.

Nice thick boots with extra inner sole, again wool. You need thick socks, wool again, so they need to be a number larger than you normally use, but not as big so that your foot moves a lot inside the boot. But it is the air in the sock that keeps you warm.

Glowes when you walk and wool mittens when you stand still.
Small backpack to keep the clothes you do not wear when you move.

This is meant to dress for days from minus 10 to minus 20, and have a nice day outside in cold weather.
Do not thing of crazy nordic people with little to no clothes, most of them are used to and their body adapted to cold weather during many years. (Or stupid and or drunk)

Same with us going to warm climate, the body takes time to adapt to big changes!
it is much easier to adjust cold climate with correct clothing, than going from 15 to 50 degrees. When you only have the speedo left, not much more to help the body with, apart from ac, shadow and cold beer :beer:

have a safe trip, come prepared!

[AMSS]

To be fair the lack of pace early on was mostly bad design. In Mexico, Argentina and to an extent Portugal the cars had major overheating issues. The pace was good in Sardegna with a podium for Latvala and power stage victory for Lappi, and in Poland Latvala was third until his gearbox gave up. PS victory for him too.

The pace was off in Spain and Germany, although that might be down to the drivers (Latvala retiring early with failures/damage and Lappi and Hanninen remaining). WRGB lack of pace was surprising but down to bad design as well, with all the mud collecting in the rear. Pace in Australia was good.

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The mud collecting thing was just a PR reason, the real reason was they messed up with the damper setups badly..

[GravelBen]

The mud collecting thing was just a PR reason, the real reason was they messed up with the damper setups badly..

[citation needed]

[AnttiL]

Hänninen finished 4th in both Germany and Catalunya. In Catalunya he was 55" off Meeke. In Germany all three crews scored fastest times. Not exactly off pace in my opinion.

Also in TDC, Latvala was fourth and won the power stage

[rallye-vid]

I guess some tire chains is a must have?

[Franky]

I guess some tire chains is a must have?

Proper tires are enough

[rallye-vid]

Yeah, we are not going on slicks there ;)

[Franky]

Yeah, we are not going on slicks there ;)

You can always order new shoes for the car for one weekend of the year ;)

[Rallyper]

Toyota will be really strong in Sweden. They have been testing so much on snow this winter! All drivers test 4days atleast! Tomorrow I´m going to follow JM test near Jyväskylä. it's really a big advantage that they get tested without any restriction in the Jyväskylä area.

I think Latvala is strong favourite for win but Ott can make 2nd surprise. If there is lot of snow in friday stages can Lappi be leader friday night. 7th starting position is so big advantage. Very interesting rally comeing.. Can´t wait!

One thing is a bit worrying to me:

Without knowing exactly it seems testing in Finland was on snow with much gravel on surface. I´m sure there will be more of black ice under the snow cover on the Rally Sweden stages than on testing in Finland.

So what could it mean? Maybe surprisingly more slippery to JML, OT and Lappi. I don´t know. Hope not of course.

[mknight]

Also in TDC, Latvala was fourth and won the power stage

In 2018 Monte Meeke finished 4th and won the power stage ;) Relatively similar.

Imo it's quite clear that in 2017 M-Sport had allround the best car, they were clearly fighting in top 3 on every rally.

Hyundai was 2nd best with lack of consistent pace in Finland and Spain (on tarmac).
Toyota would come after with Mexico, Argentina, (Poland - in dry conditions), Germany, Spain, GB to name a few.
With Citroen it's easier to count where they actually were competitive and you get 4 rallies.

[Hartusvuori]

One thing is a bit worrying to me:

Without knowing exactly it seems testing in Finland was on snow with much gravel on surface. I´m sure there will be more of black ice under the snow cover on the Rally Sweden stages than on testing in Finland.

So what could it mean? Maybe surprisingly more slippery to JML, OT and Lappi. I don´t know. Hope not of course.

I haven't been at the tests on site either, but... It's been relatively same weather in Central Finland as it've been in Varmländ region. From mid December to mid January subzero temps, few days with proper minus temps. Last week it went above zero for a day, melted a lot of snow, but that all froze again the next night, so I'd suppose those test roads have had some ice too on top of that concrete hard frozen gravel.

Regarding surprises, Latvala have won 4 out last 9 Rally Sweden's, so...

[Rallyper]

I haven't been at the tests on site either, but... It's been relatively same weather in Central Finland as it've been in Varmländ region. From mid December to mid January subzero temps, few days with proper minus temps. Last week it went above zero for a day, melted a lot of snow, but that all froze again the next night, so I'd suppose those test roads have had some ice too on top of that concrete hard frozen gravel.

Regarding surprises, Latvala have won 4 out last 9 Rally Sweden's, so...

Just a reflection of the videos I saw. I hope JML wins again. Would be nice.

[satukata]

I was watching JM test today. Road condition was great. Full ice and nice snowbank and no gravel..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-357CsI-YkY

JM was in good feeling!

[BleAivano]

"SS Röjden & SS Svullrya Temprature- 10C and BIG snowbanks!"

https://twitter.com/RallySweden/status/959720992460427265

[mknight]

"SS Röjden & SS Svullrya Temprature- 10C and BIG snowbanks!"

https://twitter.com/RallySweden/status/959720992460427265

Thing is, because of the mild period 1,5 weeks ago the snowbanks on the Norwegian side are rock-hard. So most likely it won't be very good idea to lean against them for the new WRCs with "soft" carbon sidepods on the rear.
You don't exactly see drivers leaning on armco guardrails either.

[SubaruNorway]

Thing is, because of the mild period 1,5 weeks ago the snowbanks on the Norwegian side are rock-hard. So most likely it won't be very good idea to lean against them for the new WRCs with "soft" carbon sidepods on the rear.
You don't exactly see drivers leaning on armco guardrails either.

All those are from the Swedish side, it was closed by the border in the north tonight. Funny how they clear the roads different on the Swedish side both on the main road and in the forest, it's not so straight in Norway and not that hard, it was a bit hard finding good place since you don't see much this year. Video coming from the old Finnskogen stage at Rally Finnskog today close to Svullrya and Røjden.

[AnttiL]

https://www.accuweather.com/en/se/torsby/310692/month/310692?view=table

Forecast indicating the weather is staying below 0 for the next two weeks with fresh snowfall forecasted just before the rally starts. That would mean a huge disadvantage for Ogier.

[Tarmop]

Accuweather hasn`t been really accurate imo...and it`s so far away.
Gismeteo.ru shows no snowfall, a few plusses day and few minuses at night.
Yr.no does not provide such a long term forecast.

[sindroms]

It's way too early to make forecast for Sweden WRC weekend. For such a long period it will change every day. My expierience shows you can start to believe 5 days before.

[Sulland]

Follow this one for first day weather: https://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Hedmark/Grue/Svullrya/long.html?spr=eng
Hour by hour: https://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Hedmark/Grue/Svullrya/hour_by_hour.html

[AnttiL]

I know it's early for the rally forecasts but I'm also interested in the weather before the rally in the coming week, will there be more snow or will it be gone

[mknight]

For the snow to disappear you'd need a week with 5+ temps (especially for day 1), that's extremely unlikely.

More (fresh) snow would mostly make a difference on friday due to the running order.

But I get what you mean, there is whole lot of options between these two and a day or two with warm temperatures can make the surface more icy, while some snowfall will make it more slippery.

[AnttiL]

For the snow to disappear you'd need a week with 5+ temps (especially for day 1), that's extremely unlikely.

Especially with the current forecasts, they can't be that wrong for the upcoming week anymore.

[Tarmop]

Yes they can... our latest pluss degrees with rain, which melted all the snow and ruined ice tracks, was supposed to be -15 all the time, forecast changed 5/6 days before. On the plus side it was supposed to last for a week, but only lasted 5 days (again changed). But hopefully it won`t happen again, nice winter is back and February is supposedly the coldest month of the year/winter. About time too to get some normal winter weather. Hasn`t happened for 4 years now, let`s hope 5. is the real one again. Started a bit late, but March is also still ahead.

[DocMS]

Where would people recommend to go for Friday stages that we can see both runs over the stage and make it back into torsby for the evening stage also? We went to Rodjen stage last year and seen both runs and back onto torsby for evening.


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[BleAivano]

https://twitter.com/RallySweden/status/960110258923474944

SS Hagfors, Vargåsen & Likenäs Temperature -11c and A LOT of snow! Could it be better?
*#winterwonderland #closertosnowbanks photo: Krister Berglund

[Fast Eddie WRC]

With Mads driving for Citroen in Sweden there will be 10 former WRC rally winner's competing there. Is this a record ?

(Only Breen and Sunninen of the WRC driver's havent won a WRC event).

[AnttiL]

(Only Breen and Sunninen of the WRC driver's havent won a WRC event).

Henning, Yazeed and Bertelli? ;) But yeah, out of the works drivers, only those two without a win. And it will take a while until we see the next maiden winner. Probably not this year at all.

[AnttiL]

With Mads driving for Citroen in Sweden there will be 10 former WRC rally winner's competing there. Is this a record ?

1000 Lakes Rally 1990 entry list: Mikael Ericsson, Juha Kankkunen, Markku Alen, Carlos Sainz, Timo Salonen, Ari Vatanen, Didier Auriol, Pentti Airikkala, Kenneth Eriksson, Hannu Mikkola and Jorge Recalde – that makes it 11 rally winners.

EDIT: Rally Finland 2003: Grönholm, Burns, Rovanperä, Märtin, Solberg, Mäkinen, Schwarz, Auriol, McRae, Loeb, Sainz, Vatanen - 12 rally winners.

[macebig]

1000 Lakes Rally 1990 entry list: Mikael Ericsson, Juha Kankkunen, Markku Alen, Carlos Sainz, Timo Salonen, Ari Vatanen, Didier Auriol, Pentti Airikkala, Kenneth Eriksson, Hannu Mikkola and Jorge Recalde – that makes it 11 rally winners.

EDIT: Rally Finland 2003: Grönholm, Burns, Rovanperä, Märtin, Solberg, Mäkinen, Schwarz, Auriol, McRae, Loeb, Sainz, Vatanen - 12 rally winners.

Outside of those, NORF 2003 was also entered by future winners Latvala, Hirvonen, Duval and Meeke. Between them, there should be about 280 wins.

[Allez Andruet]

1000 Lakes Rally 1990 entry list: Mikael Ericsson, Juha Kankkunen, Markku Alen, Carlos Sainz, Timo Salonen, Ari Vatanen, Didier Auriol, Pentti Airikkala, Kenneth Eriksson, Hannu Mikkola and Jorge Recalde – that makes it 11 rally winners.

EDIT: Rally Finland 2003: Grönholm, Burns, Rovanperä, Märtin, Solberg, Mäkinen, Schwarz, Auriol, McRae, Loeb, Sainz, Vatanen - 12 rally winners.

Finland 2002 also had 12 rally winners (Grönholm, Burns, Rovanperä, Sainz, McRae, Delecour, Mäkinen, Eriksson, Schwarz, Kankkunen, Loeb, Salonen). And you can actually argue whether that should be 13 (same goes for 2003 as well) as Loix won in Portugal in 1996, when it was a W2L event.

Acropolis 1984 had 11 winners (Röhrl, Alen, Vatanen, Mouton, Salonen, Mikkola, Mehta, Blomqvist, Toivonen, Nicolas, Warmbold), as did Monte Carlo 1994 (Kankkunen, Sainz, Auriol, Biasion, Schwarz, Delecour, McRae, Eriksson, Ragnotti, Oreille, Timo Mäkinen).

edit. I think we have a winner... Monte Carlo 1983 had 13 winners: Röhrl, Mikkola, Vatanen, Alen, Mouton, Toivonen, Andruet, Blomqvist, Ragnotti, Frequelin, Therier, Salonen, Warmbold.

[Simmi]

Finland 2002 also had 12 rally winners (Grönholm, Burns, Rovanperä, Sainz, McRae, Delecour, Mäkinen, Eriksson, Schwarz, Kankkunen, Loeb, Salonen). And you can actually argue whether that should be 13 (same goes for 2003 as well) as Loix won in Portugal in 1996, when it was a W2L event.

Loeb was actually one event short of being a WRC winner. As his debut win in Germany was a few weeks later.

13 guys from 1983 Monte is very impressive though and will be tough to beat I'd assume.

[Rally Power]

Finland 2002 also had 12 rally winners (Grönholm, Burns, Rovanperä, Sainz, McRae, Delecour, Mäkinen, Eriksson, Schwarz, Kankkunen, Loeb, Salonen). And you can actually argue whether that should be 13 (same goes for 2003 as well) as Loix won in Portugal in 1996, when it was a W2L event.
Acropolis 1984 had 11 winners (Röhrl, Alen, Vatanen, Mouton, Salonen, Mikkola, Mehta, Blomqvist, Toivonen, Nicolas, Warmbold), as did Monte Carlo 1994 (Kankkunen, Sainz, Auriol, Biasion, Schwarz, Delecour, McRae, Eriksson, Ragnotti, Oreille, Timo Mäkinen).
edit. I think we have a winner... Monte Carlo 1983 had 13 winners: Röhrl, Mikkola, Vatanen, Alen, Mouton, Toivonen, Andruet, Blomqvist, Ragnotti, Frequelin, Therier, Salonen, Warmbold.

Also 12 in Portugal 2001 (and several 10 and 11); besides the mentioned 83 MC, also 13 in ‘77 RAC and ‘02 Network Q. Digging a bit more, we’ll probably find a MC or GB rally with a 14 record…btw, how about the event with larger entry of world champs?

PS: before the mandatory entries (mid 00’s ?), Portugal, Finland and Greece were always popular among manus, but MC and GB were clearly (and understandably) their favorite WRC events.

[macebig]

Mandatory entry started in 1994 with the cut down calendar and event rotation.

[Micke_VOC]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/EnthusiastsofRallySweden/permalink/1754861821255033/
Start of Hagfors-stage ! A lot of snow and large snowbanks.

This group are good one if you shall spectating Rally Sweden. Around 4000 members.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/EnthusiastsofRallySweden/

[AnttiK7]

13 guys from 1983 Monte is very impressive though and will be tough to beat I'd assume.

Apart from the other RACs mentioned before, also 1981 RAC had 13 past event winners. (Toivonen, Vatanen, Alén, Frequelin, Mikkola, Salonen, Waldegård, Ragnotti, Mouton, Kulläng, Eklund, Blomqvist and Clark.)

1991 RAC would still get my vote as the all time best WRC rally entry list. With the exception of Waldegård and Röhrl, all World Rally Champions from 1979 to 1999 took part in that rally, all in official factory cars. Lancia, Toyota, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Ford, Mazda and Nissan all brought cars to that rally. That rally also saw Colin McRae spectacularly leading a WRC event for the first time as well as deciding a third title for Kankkunen, which was a new record at the time. What a rally.

[BleAivano]

Vargåsen stage https://twitter.com/RallySweden/status/960971167598247936

[pantealex]

http://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/communication-no-1.pdf

CoC Includes Service Park lay out picture (how teams are placed)

http://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/bulletin-no-1-1.pdf

Bulletin Includes Recce Schedule

[Rallyper]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/EnthusiastsofRallySweden/permalink/1754861821255033/
Start of Hagfors-stage ! A lot of snow and large snowbanks.

This group are good one if you shall spectating Rally Sweden. Around 4000 members.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/EnthusiastsofRallySweden/

Just asking, is that really start of Hagfors? Doesn´t look similar to satellite pic.

[AnttiL]

Just asking, is that really start of Hagfors? Doesn´t look similar to satellite pic.

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Sweden-2018/Hagfors

Check out around 1.5 kms. There's a hole in the forest, a tight right with house on the outside, and then the sequence of the corners matches the video again. Remember that Hagfors is different this year, same as 2013 Värmullsåsen

https://i.imgur.com/mACEun2.png

from right to left on the image

[Rallyper]

https://www.rally-maps.com/Rally-Sweden-2018/Hagfors

Check out around 1.5 kms. There's a hole in the forest, a tight right with house on the outside, and then the sequence of the corners matches the video again. Remember that Hagfors is different this year, same as 2013 Värmullsåsen

https://i.imgur.com/mACEun2.png

from right to left on the image

Thanks.
Sure looks like it. I can see that.
My answer earlier, was from my mind what I remembered. And still it is not from start, just from the beginning, as you tell.

[Rallyper]

So next question to you guys having the Magazine:
Is it possible to get to junction from south? Or is road closed to that point?

[AnttiL]

One week until the rally, snow situation still looking good and the forecasts are still giving minus degrees. The snowfall situation for the opening day will be interesting.

[SubaruNorway]

So next question to you guys having the Magazine:
Is it possible to get to junction from south? Or is road closed to that point?

They put the stages online also. Not marked as entry road on the map.
http://rallysweden.com/stage/ss-1013-hagfors/

[satnav]

Just so everyone knows the spectator access is all on the website this year as well

http://rallysweden.com/en/the-race/

Just pick your stage and all the info is there , map and information.

[DocMS]

SubaruNorway any recommendations this year for places to view on the Friday. We went last year to places you had pointed out and have to say it did not disappoint. Going back this year and also going to shakedown on the Thursday.


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[rallye-vid]

Oh, yes. Asking the same for the very first sweden rally and all days :D

Cheers

[AnttiL]

https://motorsport.hyundai.com/swede-dreams/

Hyundai preview

[AnttiL]

Toyota: https://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/en/toyota/21072103.html

[Rallyper]

I can swear the beginning of Hagfors stage was different on the early maps on the official Rally Sweden website.
Now I recognize the start better. Been there once. Good places about 1,5 K but also after only 500m there´s a tricky one.

[Teme]

http://rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/communication-no-1.pdf

CoC Includes Service Park lay out picture (how teams are placed)

So no Ralfs Sirmacis or have I missed something?

[Rallyper]

Forecast today says quite a lot of snow Rally Sweden weekend ....

[AnttiL]

Accuweather says now no snowfall for the whole event in Torsby (including Thursday) except for little snow on Saturday morning. Also some snow on Svullrya on Friday.

Yr.no says a bit snowfall on the night between Thursday and Friday.

Foreca does indeed give snowfall from Thursday to Saturday, but I don't trust it so much.

I'll add it myself so you don't have to make a reply: it's too early to say.

[STI69]

SMHI.se forecast, I know it's early but it looks scary. 19cm of extra snow Th-Su...
Most likely the parking at stages will be big issue this year, access roads are narrow and fields have 60+ cm of snow. Thank god we rented 4X4 Volvo for this year.

[Rallyper]

Forecast today says quite a lot of snow Rally Sweden weekend ....

This is according to swedish https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/ortsprognoser/q/Hagfors/2709214#tab=0,chart=1

Let´s wait and see. Forecasts as you say often changes dramatically in a week.

[er88]

Well I said Toyota really should be winning this event due to the huge testing advantage they've had on the other teams (and the fact they won the event last season too), however the road order on day 1 seems like it could be a massive factor in the result. So Mikkelsen is in a superb position to take advantage, and we know the Hyundai was supremely fast here last season. Difficult to tell what Paddon can do and where his mind is, but he also has a great start position. After losing places on the last stage in Monte, Lappi could be a dark horse as well and along with Mikkelsen, will be thinking he could make a bit of a gap on day 1 if things go well.

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[AnttiL]

Yeh, if it's very snowy, Ogier, Tänak and Latvala may be in trouble, whereas Neuville will have an advantage. Østberg, Suninen and Paddon are starting as last WRC cars, but will they have more or less advantage from the road position?

Starting order should be:
1. Ogier
2. Tänak
3. Latvala
4. Meeke
5. Neuville
6. Evans
7. Lappi
8. Mikkelsen
9. Breen
10. Paddon
11. Suninen
12. Østberg

[AnttiL]

M-Sport http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/m-sport-ford-ready-for-a-classic-rally-sweden

[bluuford]

weather is extremely unstable right now, so forecast now is a bit pointless, if you look probablility maps, then we can expect 1-45 cm snow during next one week:) Only sure thing is that it will be unstabe, that means some strong wind, some snowstorm, some rain, some snow, rapid temperature fluctuation. So, please take very windproof clothes and be ready for wet snow and cold :)

[EstWRC]

Well I said Toyota really should be winning this event due to the huge testing advantage they've had on the other teams (and the fact they won the event last season too), however the road order on day 1 seems like it could be a massive factor in the result. So Mikkelsen is in a superb position to take advantage, and we know the Hyundai was supremely fast here last season. Difficult to tell what Paddon can do and where his mind is, but he also has a great start position. After losing places on the last stage in Monte, Lappi could be a dark horse as well and along with Mikkelsen, will be thinking he could make a bit of a gap on day 1 if things go well.

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absolutely agreed...thats why i dont agree that Toyota guys will definitely win because their starting position is a disadvantage. Last year Neuville was 8th on the road on day one and he had a 28 sec lead after the day and 43 sec lead on day 2 before he binned it.

Although Ogier - Latvala - Tänak started as the first three on the road and they did actually quite good being 5th, 2nd and 3rd respectively after day one.

So, my money is definitely on Mikkelsen/Neuville and Lappi being the dark horse.

[AnttiL]

So, my money is definitely on Mikkelsen/Neuville and Lappi being the dark horse.

Agreed, but I would pick Paddon as the dark horse. He did some great times last year when his power steering was working, and finished 2nd in 2016. It's more of a mystery what Lappi can do, alongside Suninen and Østberg .

[EstWRC]

Yes, Paddon too if he has regained his old form

and you never know with the Hyundai guys, Mikkelsen and Neuville on the paper but they tend to do some little mistakes which turn out to be costly or then the car has some issues...

[PLuto]

https://scontent.fprg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27857899_10156213511149973_4126391037951306151_n.j pg?oh=dace783edffe934000b8fbba730fdf94&oe=5AD8E102

[Luijbregts]

My guess is a big lead for Mikkelsen after day 1 and Ostberg and Henning Solberg pretty high in the standings after day 1!

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[spiderem]

3 pages of Pickem so far and not once Ogier has been picked as winner. Must be the first it happens in years!

[satukata]

One dark Horse in Rally Sweden and very good starting position on friday stages..
Teemu Suninen Racing
@TeemuSuninenRac
We’ve just completed some good test kilometres in Northern Sweden. It would be amazing to challenge for a podium again. Perhaps that is a realistic goal for @RallySweden

[PLuto]

Agreed, but I would pick Paddon as the dark horse. He did some great times last year when his power steering was working, and finished 2nd in 2016. It's more of a mystery what Lappi can do, alongside Suninen and Østberg .

2016 was with older car. To say the truth, Paddon had problems to be fast with new WRC cars.

[ESTR]

3 pages of Pickem so far and not once Ogier has been picked as winner. Must be the first it happens in years!

He will wait for others guys to push it and then benefit from their mistakes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He will wait for others guys to push it and then benefit from their mistakes.

Ogier has to open the road with no lines to follow and judge everything for himself on what could be very tricky roads.

Driving fast but minimising mistakes is what makes sucessful rallying. It's up to the others to learn this...

[BleAivano]

lsatest forecast https://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/ortsprognoser/q/Torsby/2667876#ort=2715953,59.366665/16.5;flik=0,tab=0,chart=1

[Josef]

Greate forecast...

[Watson]

I reckon the Toyotas are going to be the ones to beat but they will push each other so hard that two of them will make costly mistakes.

I feel the Citroens and Paddon will be nowhere due to lack of form and preperation.

Neuville will make a silly mistake again somewhere, while Mikkelsen will be able to show more consistency.

Ogier despite his road position will be able to salvage a podium. Evans will have a couple of spins which will land him a lower midfield result. Suninen will play it safe to start the season well and by making no big mistakes he will get very close to the podium.

Let's see how well my crystal ball was calibrated.

[Tauri_J]

I wonder if there's a heavy snowfall at thursday night, would they plow the roads before the stage start.

[AnttiL]

http://media.citroenracing.com/en/c3-wrcs-head-swedish-winter-wonderland

Finally Citroen's preview as well

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg:
"With the bigger snow banks this year, the roads are likely to be narrower and more technically demanding, so perhaps we Scandinavians may be able to take advantage of our greater experience in conditions like these."

[Essaj]

Bertelli not starting :(
https://twitter.com/fuckmatie37/status/962363980562993152

[Watson]

Waisting M-Sport's test days. What a shame.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Waisting M-Sport's test days. What a shame.
Bertelli test days will not be part of the test days allowed for MSports manufacturer points nominated drivers.

[the sniper]

Bertelli not starting :(
https://twitter.com/fuckmatie37/status/962363980562993152

Did his mother think it'd be too cold for him out there so called him home? He could've caught a cold, bless him.

[N.O.T]

Waisting M-Sport's test days. What a shame.

he pays for those days...

[satukata]

Tomorrow starts Rallyweek in sweden! Can´t wait thursday!

[EstWRC]

Tänaks preview from Michelin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1owws2RdYTo&feature=youtu.be&a=

[Essaj]

Better to crash in test's instead of race
https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/962776424942833664

[PLuto]

I hope that Hyundai has ready spare R5 for him...

[SubaruNorway]

I hope that Hyundai has ready spare R5 for him...

A couple of hours and that's good to go again

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV0CA37U8AAXAyz.jpg

[Eli]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DV0CA37U8AAXAyz.jpg

It reminds me a bit of this Fiesta:
https://cdn-0.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1000000/1070000/1074000/1074100/1074100/s8/wrc-rally-sweden-2011-henning-solberg-and-ilka-minor-ford-fiesta-rs-wrc-m-sport-stobart-fo.jpg