Tour De Course 2017

[NickRally]

Chaps, I am not sure if a thread on this year’s Tour De Course already exists, but I did a lot of searching, both using the search facilities and manually (went up to page 10 on the WRC section) and did not find one, so I decided to start such thread. Nevertheless, if I was too keen and have missed it, I would be happy to re-post in the correct place and for this thread to be deleted.

So here is what I wanted to start with - I am thinking about visiting one of the European rounds of the WRC and as the nearest is Tour De Course, I am considering visiting this one in order to grab some snapshots of the interesting technical details on the cars. If I go, I am intending to be there before the rally starts, say arrive Wednesday morning and maybe stay until Friday afternoon – does this sound sensible for what I would like to do, i.e. see the cars in the service park in Bastia Airport and take my snapshots? Any help is welcome.

[PLuto]

To your question, I dont think this is the best race for your idea. Everything is mainly because of schedule of the rally. On Thursday morning they are doing shakedown and just after shake, each cars are put to trucks or on trailer and transported to Ajaccio (other side of island). They will be there in parc ferme (with short break of ceremonial start). On Friday morning they starts and return to Bastia service on Friday evening.

So for you only chance to see the cars with more details is Wednesday... I think there are much better events for your "job"...

[NickRally]

Thanks Pluto, I see, so technically if I decide to go I can fly back on Thursday afternoon, as there will be nothing to see there on Friday morning. So the question now is if Wednesday and Thursday morning is enough for what I want to do. It might be if the cars are accessible on Wednesday.
The reason I quite like Corsica is that the cars will be in full on “race” trim, while during my next opportunity Portugal, they will be in gravel spec, though as I don’t know how much of the aero configuration changes between these two specs, it might not matter at all if I choose a gravel or tarmac rally.

[Hartusvuori]

This raise a question too, how come you are so interested in seeing cars in detail, yet not interested in seeing them driven in anger?

Service park is not always the best place to have a closer look on the cars. With some extra caution - and luck - you might get a closer look as the cars queue for stage time control (shakedown might be the best for this). Also ceremonial start, I don't know how it is in Corsica, but if you go "behind" the settings, the cars must queue for the start ramp and you might get a good, closer look. Then again, of course, at service park, you get a better overview if some cars are on jacks without wheels and so on.

[NickRally]

Thanks Hartusvuori, it is simply because I am way more interested in the technical details than watching the cars drive round small portion of the course (I still watch the TV coverage). In my life, I have watched plenty of cars rallying and racing (I attended my first rally way back at 1984) and also can’t devote more than one or two days to this activity.
Nevertheless, you correctly pointed out that at service park, the cars are up in the air or in bits so I can see a lot of detail, which is why I will be heading there if I go to a rally this year.

[Franky]

Isn't the view rather limited at the service park - not close and nearly only rear view?

[Simmi]

I guess the earlier you arrive at service park there is also a chance the cars are covered up? Or no rear bumper - dummy wheels/tyres etc. Seems a long way to travel for that.

Best times I've found to get the cars are regroups/holding areas, and/or on the way into stages:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5628/21634291094_02f878d84b_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/yXKp1S)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/yXKp1S) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/576/31661988634_473e7c84b8_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/QeRY8L)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/QeRY8L) by Richard Simpson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/94998505@N03/), on Flickr

[NickRally]

Thanks for the advice guys, keep them coming, all taken on board

[pantealex]

It´s much more easier to see details of gravel-spec car.
-higher from ground
-suspension parts more visible
-dampers visible
-smaller brakes, easier to see things behind those disc

Catalonia could be best rally to see details, that service where they change setup from tarmac to gravel (or vice verso)
they take so much things away from cars...

[NickRally]

All good points, this may just sway my choice to Portugal (Spain feels too far down the line).

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map is online => http://bit.ly/2hoC0Fj

[Allar]

Entry list will be published March the 17th, will there be any surprises?
Citroen will enter 3 2017spec cars. Ostberg/Prokop will start?

[sonnybobiche]

Am I the only one who's really bothered by the fact that for the second year running it's called the Che Guevara energy drink Tour de Corse? I get that rallies need title sponsors but good lord. Why not Josef Stalin Cola or Adolf Hitler fruit juice?

How do these people, who normally scrupulously avoid any semblance of controversy, have the audacity to name one of the rallies after a murderous communist revolutionary?

[Myrvold]

Am I the only one who's really bothered by the fact that for the second year running it's called the Che Guevara energy drink Tour de Corse? I get that rallies need title sponsors but good lord. Why not Josef Stalin Cola or Adolf Hitler fruit juice?

How do these people, who normally scrupulously avoid any semblance of controversy, have the audacity to name one of the rallies after a murderous communist revolutionary?

Because the sponsor is Che Guevara Energy.

[PLuto]

Entry list will be published March the 17th, will there be any surprises?
Citroen will enter 3 2017spec cars. Ostberg/Prokop will start?

Prokop will not start. He told he wants to start with 2016 spec since Portugal.

[the sniper]

Am I the only one who's really bothered by the fact that for the second year running it's called the Che Guevara energy drink Tour de Corse? I get that rallies need title sponsors but good lord. Why not Josef Stalin Cola or Adolf Hitler fruit juice?

How do these people, who normally scrupulously avoid any semblance of controversy, have the audacity to name one of the rallies after a murderous communist revolutionary?

It's certainly not ideal... Having sponsors like these can't help any of the other rallies or the WRC to attract more premium brands. Yeah, money is money and this energy drink company has put some up in the absence of others, so we should appreciate that (it'd be interesting to know how much they pay), but maybe WRC Promoter should get more involved in linking up event organisers with corporate sponsors? I suppose that's easier said than done, particularly given how amazing we know RB/'WRC Promoter' have been at promoting the sport... FOM certainly play that role in F1 though, I imagine Dorna do too for MotoGP looking at who sponsors their races.

[jbmarcus21]

EntryList Corsica 2017 => http://bit.ly/2hoC0Fj

[rayh_mx]

Am I the only one who's really bothered by the fact that for the second year running it's called the Che Guevara energy drink Tour de Corse? I get that rallies need title sponsors but good lord. Why not Josef Stalin Cola or Adolf Hitler fruit juice?

How do these people, who normally scrupulously avoid any semblance of controversy, have the audacity to name one of the rallies after a murderous communist revolutionary?

The past Raly of Mexico had many problems to get sponsor after VW leave. I would not mind if it was called Tequila Pancho Villa Rally Mexico next year

[WUff1]

EntryList Corsica 2017 => http://bit.ly/2hoC0Fj

direct link: http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EntryList_TourdeCorse_2017.pdf

[pantealex]

direct link: http://planetemarcus.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/EntryList_TourdeCorse_2017.pdf

WRC2 Loubet with Fiesta

Only 10 in JWRC (15 in WRC3)

[BigWorm]

Wasn't the third Yaris supposed to enter this event? Or do I mix it with Citroën?

[nafpaktos]

i think in portugal

[Allez Andruet]

Wasn't the third Yaris supposed to enter this event? Or do I mix it with Citroën?
I think Tommi said sometime pre-season, that the target was for Corsica, but I think it has since been "corrected" to Portugal.

[BigWorm]

I think Tommi said sometime pre-season, that the target was for Corsica, but I think it has since been "corrected" to Portugal.

I recall reading somewhere that Corsica was planned for launching the third. Would have been nice to see Lappi enter the stage already, but Portugal isn't too far away.

[samWRC]

I've been wondering how there can be National cars in the main event, although the rally take's place in Europe. Would be nice if other rallies had those cars too.

[pantealex]

I've been wondering how there can be National cars in the main event, although the rally take's place in Europe. Would be nice if other rallies had those cars too.

No, No, No old cars. Banning evo9 is best thing in many years.

Support events (like Vetomies in Finland) are OK and enough.

WRC events should be for FIA car only. (I count R-GT as FIA car)
No need for old mitsu or civic, there are more than enough rallies for those.

[Munkvy]

No, No, No old cars. Banning evo9 is best thing in many years.

Support events (like Vetomies in Finland) are OK and enough.

WRC events should be for FIA car only. (I count R-GT as FIA car)
No need for old mitsu or civic, there are more than enough rallies for those.

And what if you are a driver, with an older car and want to compete on the same roads as the WRC drivers? Should you not be allowed to do that? Shouldn't rallying be about anyone being able to rally, not just the ones that can afford the top cars?

On that note, you might find some of the older cars drivers have far more talent and are also more spectacular to watch than a gentleman driver in a WRC car (except for obviously the crash factor with the gentleman drivers).

There is also the fact that it's bloody expensive to run a WRC event, so often the organisers need to have other people competing to help pay for the cost...

Don't be so selfish, just because you don't want to see some cars. You can always close your eyes or leave...

[dodge33cymru]

No, No, No old cars. Banning evo9 is best thing in many years.

Support events (like Vetomies in Finland) are OK and enough.

WRC events should be for FIA car only. (I count R-GT as FIA car)
No need for old mitsu or civic, there are more than enough rallies for those.
Couldn't disagree with you more there - maybe to a point, but banning cars like last generation version of the Evo or Impreza, or the older generation of R3 and R2 cars just seems counterproductive. So what if they're not going to win a class, they still give someone a chance to go out and rally and add a bit of variety for the roadside spectators.

[tomhlord]

Nice to see Martin KOČI back and in a Fabia.

[A FONDO]

Waiting to see Suninen on tarmac, will there be improvement or same disappointment as many other finns before him.

[PLuto]

And what if you are a driver, with an older car and want to compete on the same roads as the WRC drivers? Should you not be allowed to do that? Shouldn't rallying be about anyone being able to rally, not just the ones that can afford the top cars?

On that note, you might find some of the older cars drivers have far more talent and are also more spectacular to watch than a gentleman driver in a WRC car (except for obviously the crash factor with the gentleman drivers).

There is also the fact that it's bloody expensive to run a WRC event, so often the organisers need to have other people competing to help pay for the cost...

Don't be so selfish, just because you don't want to see some cars. You can always close your eyes or leave...

If you want to compete on the same roads as WRC drivers with older car, you can just do Tour de Corse Historique...

[Tarmop]

Evo IX isn`t a historic yet. I hope to see more protos. Yes, it is great to watch those homologated cars with fast drivers but the ingenuity, different solutions and fast driving from "home-made" cars is interesting. Even if they go slow, they are more fun to watch than WRC/ R5 cars going slow.

[jparker]

Can we expect surprise from these guys with WRC Fiestas?
https://youtu.be/_qQqq_IF3nM

[Andre Oliveira]

Mads withdraw

[er88]

Why?

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[N.O.T]

Mads withdraw

perfect !!!!

[dimviii]

Why?

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BILLIOT Jérémie‏*@planetemarcus

#WRC Due technical reasons @MadsOstberg will not run @TourdeCorseWRC http://bit.ly/2hoC0Fj

[BigWorm]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128604/ostberg-decides-to-skip-corsica

According to Autosport it's because of limited testing, the tarmac suspension wouldn't arrive in time for him to use in testing.

[SubaruNorway]

I find this very strange, when was the parts homologated, November?
It probably takes less than a week to manufacture them...

[Andre Oliveira]

Jean-Marc Manzagol new car, ready to Tour de Corse

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/17626244_1130727183705513_1196826601009691227_n.jp g?oh=0e2658660c728f18ed0ece6acce579c4&oe=5950AED3

[EstWRC]

m-sport preview http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/m-sport-on-course


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8TYNZiWAAAYpqs.jpg

[dimviii]

citroen ambitions

https://www.facebook.com/notes/citroën-racing/full-strength-line-up-of-citroën-c3-wrcs-at-tour-de-corse/10154614080293525

[dimviii]

George Black about tyres
http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/meet-the-team-george-black


nice stats about Corse from ewrc.cz

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8e9WY3WsAEfdss.jpg

[dimviii]

Ott wants a focusrs too

Ott Tänak‏*@OttTanak
Lunch selfie with our superb cook @mickthechef01 My dream recce car behind @MSportLtd #focusRS

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8e1YE8XcAAOdw3.jpg

[WUff1]

Ott wants a focusrs too

Ott Tänak‏*@OttTanak
Lunch selfie with our superb cook @mickthechef01 My dream recce car behind @MSportLtd #focusRS

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8e1YE8XcAAOdw3.jpg

Still the Volvo for him ;)

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8ksm-UXoAAGRIp.jpg
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[Gregor-y]

Still the Volvo for him ;)

He's going to wreck all the Volvos, isn't he?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He's going to wreck all the Volvos, isn't he?

If he does I bet his new RS wont last half as long as those Volvo tanks...

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/MaxiPixelRallye/?fref=ts

https://scontent.fopo2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1102_1079094815529872_4380135691141664106_n.jpg?oh =5a5ff554e2ede9aa1b08662c167cc4e7&oe=59960DB5
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[Andre Oliveira]

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[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8on3teXUAEv6Y2.jpg

[EstWRC]

finally they understood something! next step would be if they would understand that adding chicanes and hairpins to make stages slower is a stupid idea!

[Simmi]

No Rally Finland for Kalle: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128800

Good decision I think. Too much too soon. He has so many years ahead of him.

[EstWRC]

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[BigWorm]

George Black about tyres
http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/meet-the-team-george-black


nice stats about Corse from ewrc.cz

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8e9WY3WsAEfdss.jpg

Safe to say Auriol is the ruler of Corsica

[dimviii]

http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/04/05/paddon-gets-aussie-assistance-tour-de-corse/

[RS]

Only power stage live on tv this weekend?

[Fly]

Only power stage live on tv this weekend?

ss8 at 1555 on Sat as well.

[Mirek]

https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17758365_10154519717750678_9210665541742192806_o.j pg?oh=db3c9c3d6f0614f607a29c459c8d6ccd&oe=594EB8F3

Thanks, first time I see a photo with air-hose for rear brakes attached.

[SubaruNorway]

finally they understood something! next step would be if they would understand that adding chicanes and hairpins to make stages slower is a stupid idea!

You mean the 4 extra tyres and shakedown? Still tyre saving on shakedown, nothing has changed right?

[KKS]

no, 28tyres for event and +4 for shake

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8qlTOOXgAYHEP4.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

no, 28tyres for event and +4 for shake

Find the ruling on that, doesn't make sense to me.
Is it posted anywhere that it is changed?

[satnav]

Find the ruling on that, doesn't make sense to me.
Is it posted anywhere that it is changed?

Its in Bulletin 1
http://www.tourdecorse.com/site/download/notice-board-uk/bulletin/1.1-Bulletin-1.pdf

[SubaruNorway]

Its in Bulletin 1
http://www.tourdecorse.com/site/download/notice-board-uk/bulletin/1.1-Bulletin-1.pdf

Yes i saw that, but this is from Sweden. Looks the same to me.

[satnav]

Yes , what they should do is take shakedown tyres out of the quota completely that would sort it .

[KKS]

Yes i saw that, but this is from Sweden. Looks the same to me.
Sweden and Corsica have different amount of tyre change

FIA Sporting reg. http://www.fia.com/file/53523/download/9275?token=_mR1aa4g
says: X*4+4=amount of tyres.

[jparker]

So, what's the reason for saving the tyres on shakedown? They can drive few stages using shakedown tyres, so thay have 7x4 permitted changes for less remainin stages? If so, then nothing is solved yet. As noted, they should simply not allow shakedown tyres to be used in proper stages.

[RS]

ss8 at 1555 on Sat as well.

Thanks.. It's on BT Sport ESPN which is why I missed it I think.

[drive]

shakedown rezults:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8twAy9XcAAH7rj.jpg:large

[Andre Oliveira]

https://ewrc-results.com/shake/36015-Che-Guevara-Energy-Drink-Tour-de-Corse-2017/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8t4x2HXoAAJIUR?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@OttTanak
Good feeling on Shakedown. The roads are really representative of the rally so we worked with some set-ups to be prepared for the rally! https://t.co/mm57OxX2NC

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier on SD: “I was really happy during our pre-event test and now in shakedown. The feeling in the first run wasn’t fantastic but we did some small adjustments and I have to say I have a good feeling with the Fiesta on asphalt, at the moment better than on gravel,”

“The experience of the previous events is helping. In Monte-Carlo we had a little bit of dry asphalt and we’ve had more time for testing, so I feel more and more ready for each rally.

“The route is the same as last year and that was only six months ago, so it feels we’re running in a place where we have a lot of references already. Shakedown was very close and it could be similar during the rally."

[itix]

Hayden's time is a bit of a surprise. Participating in San Remo did him well (on the shakedown anyway... The rally actual will tell the full story)

[drive]

shake video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iri2_KdVcK4

[EstWRC]

so the rally starts tomorrow....very interested to see the progress of Paddon (was kind of disappointed with his progess on tarmac last year) and Tänak...but i dont expect miracles from him because even he said after shakedown that this is his weakest rally.(in an interview to estonian media). TOP5 would be very good.

My dark horse for this rally is Breen. i think he could really surprise.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8vf4qeXYAAcGB9.jpg
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Michelin video
https://youtu.be/zR3Ogmc_O-0



Citroën's @SLefebvreRallye has counted 900 corners (85 pages) in his notes for 2017 Corsica's longest stage (53km)! #TourDeCorse #WRC


Jari-Matti Latvala‏
Really happy to have Maisa supporting me this weekend in @TourdeCorseWRC ! I'm a lucky man! #WRC

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[EstWRC]

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[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8uVI-0W0AAcEX9.jpg

more
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/albums/72157680241789651/page2

https://youtu.be/AeMi22NQDmc

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some big cuts there on the SD stage. Roads could be pretty dirty for those lower down the order if this happens on the rally. Advantage Ogier.

[AL14]

Meeke's SD Onboard.
Still that useless camera at front.
Even the promoters of italian championship are putting camera in the right places and promoting the sport with it.
If I remember correct also ERC... The pinnacle of the sport still don't care.

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10154524294850678/

[EightGear]

Meeke's SD Onboard.
Still that useless camera at front.
Even the promoters of italian championship are putting camera in the right places and promoting the sport with it.
If I remember correct also ERC... The pinnacle of the sport still don't care.

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10154524294850678/
And still not 1080p with 60 fps...

[EightGear]

Jari-Matti Latvala‏
Really happy to have Maisa supporting me this weekend in @TourdeCorseWRC ! I'm a lucky man! #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8uWwEtWAAEbKVz.jpg

Well err, yes... Good for him I suppose.

[jparker]

Do you guys like the format less but longer stages? It may turn to be even harder rally than already is fo some.

[EstWRC]

this has been the most boring rally in two last seasons, dunno if it is the format or not but i personally dont like the format.

[dimviii]

gravel crews

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8wUYpGXsAEp0hn.jpg

[nafpaktos]

searching for haninen's and meek's gravel crews in ewrc i see that the drivers are not
ultra experienced.do i miss something?

[stefanvv]

Do you guys like the format less but longer stages? It may turn to be even harder rally than already is fo some.

It depends on the stages characteristics. Long slow tarmac stages are for sure boring, but long gravel fast stages are interesting.

[N.O.T]

With long stages, although they are exciting to follow the splits the downside is that everything is over after one or two of them.

[satukata]

With long stages, although they are exciting to follow the splits the downside is that everything is over after one or two of them.

Its boring for me. Only 10 stages in whole rally. In Nesterallyfinland we have 12 stages on friday and 8stages on saturday. I like much more stages!

[steve.mandzij]

Its boring for me. Only 10 stages in whole rally. In Nesterallyfinland we have 12 stages on friday and 8stages on saturday. I like much more stages!
While I much prefer more stages to long marathon rallies such as this, I feel it's important to have at least one event like Corsica. It's a traditional part of the WRC. To be fair though, the last two Tour de Corses have passed me by really quickly and without as much excitement as every other rally.

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[GravelBen]

I'm happy to have some proper long stages instead of a bunch of repeated 10km sprints.

I'm often more interested in the results of one longer stage where you can see bigger differences between drivers than repeated short runs with only a few seconds separating them.

More stages is good too of course, but not if it means making them too short and using the same roads over and over again.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Only 10 Stages?!!? I should have gone!

[Franky]

And still not 1080p with 60 fps...

EightGear, only a very little part of the world uses 30/60 fps. Mainly North-America. Besides, why would you need high frame rate for an onboard.

[A FONDO]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8ygVzyU0AQr25w.jpg

[EstWRC]

so, an hour left...anyone wanna bet on which stage Tänak's car starts to strike again? or how many times Ogier will get lucky again with spins and touching walls? What drama we will have on power stage?

[EightGear]

EightGear, only a very little part of the world uses 30/60 fps. Mainly North-America. Besides, why would you need high frame rate for an onboard.
Then why cant WRC use it? Even amateur video makers have access to 60fps cameras. Personally I can easily spot the difference between 30 and 60 frames, with 60 being a lot smoother.

The current 720p just doesn't cut it anymore in 2017.

[MikeD]

I love this rally and I love Corsica (been there twice). And I see it like there are 4 potential winners. Ogier is the favorite no doubt, but tarmac specialist Meeke, Sordo and Neuville are diffinitaly in the game. Bring it on! :)

[EightGear]

Latvala +8 already after the first split.

[Mirek]

Stages on Corsica are too long and too difficult to bring some tight results. I expect massive differences between the drivers.

[jparker]

Stages on Corsica are too long and too difficult to bring some tight results. I expect massive differences between the drivers.

Very true. Also nightmare for having tech issues. 8 sec is a lot, hope is just temporary

[RS]

Ogier in a world of his own on SS1 splits.

[EstWRC]

what the hell were Tänak and Latvala doiing in first split, very slow for both

[jparker]

Ogier in a world of his own on SS1 splits.
not anymore

[Mirek]

It looks like Ogier may have done some mistake on second split.

[Micke_VOC]

SOmeone have direct link to rallyradio stream ? The webplayer doesnt work for me.

[EstWRC]

not bad Ott!

[wrc2017]

SOmeone have direct link to rallyradio stream ? The webplayer doesnt work for me.

me too.. check some flash plugin

[Krigen]

SOmeone have direct link to rallyradio stream ? The webplayer doesnt work for me.

Same for me :(

[Mirek]

Doesn't work to me either (Chrome).

[Mirek]

Great time for Meeke!

[rp]

SOmeone have direct link to rallyradio stream ? The webplayer doesnt work for me.

Tried everything, but not working :(

[EightGear]

Oh hello Kris.

[KKS]

Great start for Meeke!

[KKS]

Tried everything, but not working :(
try Opera or update Flash.
I use Chrome and not updated Flash - works fine

[Mirek]

DMack still not good on these stages...

[Lord_Shaitan]

Tried everything, but not working :(

Just try to turn radio on from black box with rally's name and Certina's time.

Works for me on Chrom.

[Micke_VOC]

Doesn't work to me either (Chrome).
Also the screen for splits and more doesnt appear in wrc + live maps....

[rp]

try Opera or update Flash.
I use Chrome and not updated Flash - works fine

Tried all the browsers & updated, but not working...

[Micke_VOC]

Just try to turn radio on from black box with rally's name and Certina's time.

Works for me on Chrom.

Thanks!! Worked for me to!

[RS]

Hanninen going well.

[KKS]

DMack still not good on these stages...
Are they updated his old tarmac tyre? I think it's same tyre with same performance what we see at 2016.

[Lead]

Good splits from Hanninen.

[KKS]

Hanninen going well.
Good spot! Even faster than Ogier on 3rd split

[EstWRC]

frustrating time for Paddon :(

[EstWRC]

and there goes Hanninen, stopped, lol

[MikeD]

I am getting less and less impressed with Lefebvre. He's simply too slow on every surface. I think his days in WRC are soon over.

[KKS]

Haninnen not moving and have 0kph on wrc+ O_O

[irish_tiger]

I had the same problem - but got it by going through the WRC web site :

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/livecenter/page/4175----.html

[EstWRC]

and the radio finds it out now!!! 10 minutes later, pathetic

[RS]

Lefebvre barely quicker than Camilli.

[KKS]

"#Tyre (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Tyre?src=hash) info: All @OfficialWRC (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC) Michelin drivers with 5 Michelin Pilot Sport H5 #TourdeCorse (https://twitter.com/hashtag/TourdeCorse?src=hash)"

[KKS]

And now with news about Haninnen, NOT have good ground to write his silly posts :(

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8y56yMVwAE5SgJ.jpg

[Krigen]

Just try to turn radio on from black box with rally's name and Certina's time.

Works for me on Chrom.

Thanks

[KKS]

Juho moves!

[Teardrop]

I am getting less and less impressed with Lefebvre. He's simply too slow on every surface. I think his days in WRC are soon over.
Lefebvre is a joke, as Camilli was last year. It's ridiculous to have this driver in a 17'car and to have guys like Mikkelsen with no place...absolutely ridiculous!!... I don't care if he's french or not...he still has no value to fight with the big boys...put him on WRC2 again.

[Mirek]

No power steering for Kopecký. that's first time ever for Fabia R5 I think.

Also Bonato stopped.

[Grant_RSA]

Lefebvre is a joke, as Camilli was last year. It's ridiculous to have this driver in a 17'car and to have guys like Mikkelsen with no place...absolutely ridiculous!!... I don't care if he's french or not...he has no value!

I agree totally, its a tragedy Mikkelsen isnt in that car, and apparently without a gravel crew to boot. Lets hope Citroen sees the light soon.

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8y8CwjU0AATIHe.jpg

[MikeD]

What Toyota doing with Hänninen, keeps being a mystery to me. He is way too slow for the WRC.

[RS]

What Toyota doing with Hänninen, keeps being a mystery to me. He is way too slow for the WRC.

He was quicker than Latvala until he crashed.

[Simmi]

Same old story for Juho. Really like the guy but damn. We know what he is.

Pace isn't the problem though MikeD

[Mirek]

On the photo it looks like it burnt.

[KKS]

What Toyota doing with Hänninen, keeps being a mystery to me. He is way too slow for the WRC.
He was 5th fastest on 3rd split. 5th now called "way too slow"?

[MikeD]

Lefebvre is a joke, as Camilli was last year. It's ridiculous to have this driver in a 17'car and to have guys like Mikkelsen with no place...absolutely ridiculous!!... I don't care if he's french or not...he has no value!

I agree. Bet it won't be long before Mikkelsen is in that car, unless Citroën is "forced" to have a french driver for commercial reasons in theor home market. I think they will either go for Neuville for 2018 if possible, or take Mikkelsen.

[Eric]

Both Hanninen and Lefebvre is a joke..There is no point having them in a 17´car. They will never ever be able to compete with the guys in front.

[Eric]

He was 5th fastest on 3rd split. 5th now called "way too slow"?

Maybe not too slow. But it doesnt help having speed when you never reach the finish line.

[KKS]

On the photo it looks like it burnt.
what could making fire on rear right corner, when he touch a bridge? Brake pipe was broken and brake fluid come to hot brake disc?

[dodge33cymru]

" *cough* "



- E. Lappi

[RS]

(11 - Hänninen Juho / Lindström Kaj): I went wide on a corner and hit a bridge. The (steering) arm was bent so we stopped to see. There was then a fire on the right-rear and it took a long time to stop that.

[RS]

Good time by Sarrazin.

[N.O.T]

WOW another blistering performance by toyota, they are a very good team after all and i feel the need to apologahahhahahahaahhhhahahhhaahahhahahahahahahaha hahahahahaahahahahha

[Simmi]

I agree. Bet it won't be long before Mikkelsen is in that car, unless Citroën is "forced" to have a french driver for commercial reasons in theor home market. I think they will either go for Neuville for 2018 if possible, or take Mikkelsen.

Neuville has a contract for next year. So does Lefebvre but maybe there is some kind of performance clause in there.

[MikeD]

He was quicker than Latvala until he crashed. Doesn't matter being faster if you can't keep the car on the road. Then everybody can be faster...

[MikeD]

Neuville has a contract for next year. So does Lefebvre but maybe there is some kind of performance clause in there.

Pretty sure there is always a "Get-out-of-jail" option in these contracts.

[Eric]

Pretty sure there is always a "Get-out-of-jail" option in these contracts.

I think we will se Mikkelsen and Neuville as teammates next year.

[rallyfiend]

I think we will se Mikkelsen and Neuville as teammates next year.

I think we'll see Mikkelsen, Jari and Lappi as team mates.

[N.O.T]

I think we'll see Mikkelsen, Jari and Lappi as team mates.

I do not think Mikkelsen is willing to hire a new manager or change his nationality, so unless the amateur failure that is in charge gets the boot i cannot see it happening.

[ujtik1]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/?ref=page_internal

Live SS2

[kirungi okwogera]

Ah this dude was at RMC! I like these live feeds.

[KKS]

perfect!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

People criticising the long stages expecting huge gaps.. only 14 sec covers top 5.

Plus 'big' gaps can be closed by driver pushes or small mechanicals over these many kms.

[KKS]

Tanak start well -0.6

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yaris tyre-warming !

https://twitter.com/DannyFChen/status/850080338923663363

[rp]

Was not able to solve the problem, but now the radio is working!

[Simmi]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/?ref=page_internal

Live SS2

WRC Promoter should learn from this. Over a thousand people watching, staring at an empty backdrop waiting for a rally car. So much desire there from rally fans. And this particularly taps into what you experience when you are stage side.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke flying again. :cool:

[Myrvold]

WRC Promoter should learn from this. Over a thousand people watching, staring at an empty backdrop waiting for a rally car. So much desire there from rally fans. And this particularly taps into what you experience when you are stage side.

Indeed, I got well over 50k views on my facebook stream from Sweden, even Dick Cormack and Oscar Solberg had a look. When I can do it, the Promoter should be able to!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Exactly the same stage as last year... we can compare this stage to the times for the 2016 cars.

Ogier 18:36.6 in 2016.... 18:25.5 in 2017. :)

[Mirek]

It looks like that with more tyre wear Evans will struggle to fight with the fastest R5 cars.

[EstWRC]

Tänak basically minute faster than last year with Dmacks

[KKS]

only 15sec faster from laast year

[Rallyper]

WOW another blistering performance by toyota, they are a very good team after all and i feel the need to apologahahhahahahaahhhhahahhhaahahhahahahahahahaha hahahahahaahahahahha

So, admit you have been worried for a long time they should perform good even this time. What a relief for you it must have been. But the rally just started.
And don´t forget Hanninen is testdriver this year to evaluate the car.

[Mirek]

only 15sec faster from laast year

It's tricky to compare the editions. The conditions are never exactly same.

[EstWRC]

only 15 secs? thats quite good IMO...how much do you expect, a minute ?

[stefanvv]

Meeke passed like "Sanglier":D

[KKS]

What a massive powerslide from Meeke on fb video! WOW!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans soooooo slow... just tyres ?

[stefanvv]

only 15sec faster from laast year

Wasn't raining last year?

[KKS]

It's tricky to compare the editions. The conditions are never exactly same.
I agree, but I expect more from aero's and c.diff

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke is on it this morning ! :D

[EstWRC]

Meeke 3.2 faster than Ogier...im afraid it wont last long

[EstWRC]

#2 Tänak Ott - Järveoja Martin
"The pace is very nice but in the wide roads I'm struggling with the balance. For sure, it's not so nice even though we made some changes after the first stage."

[wrc2017]

Meeke 3.2 faster than Ogier...im afraid it wont last long

it could be there car is fast.. and meeke doesnt have to try JUST as hard?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans soooooo slow... just tyres ?

In road-mode by the sound of the car.

[EstWRC]

it could be there car is fast.. and meeke doesnt have to try JUST as hard?

well i for sure hope so...but with Meeke you never know, we saw it in Mexico :p

[stefanvv]

Paddon catches Evans

[KKS]

Poor Evans... my eyes covers be blood when I see this slow run :(

[Micke_VOC]

Paddon soon catching Evans...

[Mirek]

Game over for Kopecký, obviously he needs either to cruise without powersteering (really nice job on such twisty roads) for whole day or to retire.

[Simmi]

Poor Evans... my eyes covers be blood when I see this slow run :(

Another M-Sport engine problem?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans clip SS2

https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/850282608265220096

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another M-Sport engine problem?

Hydraulics.

[KKS]

Looks like Evans have here "Tanak equipped" car .

[EstWRC]

Gary Boyd‏ @KiwiWRCfan 8m8 minutes ago
More
. @krismeeke's time 18:22.3 this year compared to 18:50.3 last year for an identical 29.12 km long stage.
That is 0.96 sec/km quicker

[RS]

Game over for Kopecký,

Probably also his chances of doing any proper WRC2 campaign :(

[Simmi]

Seems that Breen and Sordo are locked together this year.

Have to say - given their relative WRC car experience - that it bodes well for Craig to already be on Dani's level. In his 11th full WRC drive.

I see Sordo now in a bit of a 'gatekeeper' type role in the WRC. A real solid driver. Not going to win rallies but a good pro and benchmark. But if you want to excel in the WRC you need to be quicker than him.

I think this year we will see that Tanak is the next guy to move consistently above the 'Sordo line'.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Shame Sordo never got to shine...

[rallyfiend]

I see Sordo now in a bit of a 'gatekeeper' type role in the WRC. A real solid driver. Not going to win rallies but a good pro and benchmark. But if you want to excel in the WRC you need to be quicker than him.



Sordo always has been, and always will be a journeyman...

noun, plural journeymen.
1.
a person who has served an apprenticeship at a trade or handicraft and is certified to work at it assisting or under another person.
2.
any experienced, competent but routine worker or performer.

[Gregor-y]

I still feel bad for Sordo because I rooted so hard in 2006 for Manfred Stohl to overtake him for 4th in the championship. It's like I accidentally doomed his career.

[kirungi okwogera]

I mainly feel bad for Sordo for the half-dozen or more chances he had to win tarmac rallies if he hadn't been paired on a team with Loeb back in the day - he gave at least one first win away on team orders, and if Loeb hadn't been driving at all, Dani would've won quite a bit in those years.

[wwbroe]

Second run trough the stages is now live, let's see if Meeke can keep it together.

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport‏
#Tyre info: All Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 Michelin Pilot Sport H5 #TourdeCorse #WRC

[EightGear]

SS3 is delayed, no idea why and for how long.

[wwbroe]

Seems that the start of SS3 is delayed? At least that is what i see on WRC+, nobody is moving?

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2017/post-9-0-37387200-1491560010.jpg

[Dug83]

14:24

[wwbroe]

Ogier has started the stage now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8zv6ohXYAAu9HQ.jpg:large

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8zesCMXcAAs5lM.jpg

[dimviii]

WRC Marshalls in World Rally Radio said spectators disturb the start of SS3 #TourdeCorse http://bit.ly/2nNO1qE

[EightGear]

Tanak stopped?

[wwbroe]

Not moving on WRC+, but maybe gps problem?

[KKS]

Tanak stopped

[EstWRC]

Ott sopped :(

[wwbroe]

Sordo has passed him allready

[EightGear]

Ott seems to be moving, but not on WRC+.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8zzhh0WAAATDF_.jpg:large

[wwbroe]

JML is not loosing much time to Ogier on second sector

[wwbroe]

Neuville slowest sofar

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke slower +4.7s

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak again stopped ?? :(

[EightGear]

So now WRC radio has finally noticed Ott stopped....

[wwbroe]

Ogier is pushing quite hard now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak crashed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8z4lP6XYAA33gc.jpg

[wwbroe]

Feel sorry for Ott

[wwbroe]

Ogier is trough, almost 5 sec faster than Meeke in first run.

[KKS]

Quite rare mistake for Ott... strange, he try push for win and overtake himself?

[wwbroe]

Meeke fastest on second split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak off location
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8z5OPqXgAAFdMM.jpg

[EstWRC]

Quite rare mistake for Ott... strange, he try push for win and overtake himself?

who knows, we will find out later...the last mistake from him was in august 2016, rally finland

[BigWorm]

Ogier usually blitz the competition on second runnings off stages like this, but Meeke is doing well.

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen not moving on WRC+?

[EightGear]

+0.8 for Meeke.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice run again by Meeke. :)

[wwbroe]

Now Mikkelsen is suddenly back where he belongs....:confused:

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak‏ @OttTanak 3m3 minutes ago
More
Stuck off the road on SS3 and trying to rejoin the stage. So disappointing after having such a good feeling this morning! #WRC #TourdeCorse

[Simmi]

Great work from Meeke. Others scratching their heads but he remains on or slightly above the pace of Ogier.

[KKS]

And now Meeke must stay calm. To dangerous situation now, as for him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So with team-mates Tanak & Evans in trouble, maybe Ogier to settle for a podium and good points for himself & M-Sport ?

[Rallyper]

And now Meeke must stay calm. To dangerous situation now, as for him.

And dangerous for fans so that Ogier not going to bed with half minute lead or more ... ;)

[KKS]

Looks like Kopecky had a good lunch, now he lose only 30sec per split. On prev. stage he lose 1min per split.

[KKS]

And dangerous for fans so that Ogier not going to bed with half minute lead or more ... ;)
Since childhood - Meeke fan. :D

[wwbroe]

Camilli in trouble as well?

[wwbroe]

Bouffier stopped as well

[Mirek]

Looks like Kopecky had a good lunch, now he lose only 30sec per split. On prev. stage he lose 1min per split.

Could be just wider, more opened road.

[Simmi]

So with team-mates Tanak & Evans in trouble, maybe Ogier to settle for a podium and good points for himself & M-Sport ?

Personally I can't see Ogier backing off due to Tanak and Evans. Certainly not 3 stages in/8secs off the lead.

Probably more inclined to do so at VW when they were paying him the big bucks. But unlike the last 3 years, we actually have a battle for the manufacturers championship this season.

[KKS]

What Lefebvre doing with +1.20sec/km pace in wrc car?.... especially on home soil. Citroens should do something with this situation.

[KKS]

Personally I can't see Ogier backing off due to Tanak and Evans. Certainly not 3 stages in/8secs off the lead.

Ogier could know about Tanak at stage end. So we should look on next stage if he back-off or not.