Tour De Course 2017

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Personally I can't see Ogier backing off due to Tanak and Evans. Certainly not 3 stages in/8secs off the lead.

Probably more inclined to do so at VW when they were paying him the big bucks. But unlike the last 3 years, we actually have a battle for the manufacturers championship this season.

Maybe not back off, just keeping the pressure on Meeke without taking risks.

[er88]

This is superb what Meeke's doing. Incredible pace. Let's hope he keeps it on the road

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[KKS]

Camilli moving again!

[Lead]

First day, 3 stages and we already have WRC2 winner...

[AL14]

Ogier backing off? 8 seconds behind the leader? Are you serious?

[AL14]

First day, 3 stages and we already have WRC2 winner...

We had that before the event started

[A FONDO]

Great work from Meeke. Others scratching their heads but he remains on or slightly above the pace of Ogier.
Seems like the C3 is not "generally wrong" as some people alarmed just after Sweden. Told you the season is long and diverse.

[Lead]

We had that before the event started

Before event I though Kopecky and Camilli would push Mikkelsen a little bit more as the rally goes on.

[N.O.T]

the only disappointment is the performance of the Hyundai drivers... all other results are pretty much expected.

Oh and the rally sucks overall...

[dimviii]

stage1-2
https://youtu.be/Na3jaPLZ-Mg

[ZequeArgentina]

I really expected more from Sordo this rally. Otherwise it is simillar to what could be expected.

In R5 cars, Sarrazin is doing a great job one more time.
His Hyundai is not at Skoda or Fiesta Evo level, and he is getting back to rallying, and is now the only one close to (a relaxed) Mikkelssen. Pitty about Jan, I think he can be a contender to Andreas here.

Very god.

Also good fight between Nils Soland and Astier in the R2 cars

[dimviii]

not the reason of slowness for Lefebvre,but we have to mention too that

I've been struggling with ride height and a loose paddle shift leaver.

[dimviii]

Paddon and Camilli

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C80Jn1CXcAABpEQ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C80JpM2XcAEe56l.jpg

[Mirek]

In R5 cars, Sarrazin is doing a great job one more time.
His Hyundai is not at Skoda or Fiesta Evo level, and he is getting back to rallying, and is now the only one close to (a relaxed) Mikkelssen. Pitty about Jan, I think he can be a contender to Andreas here.

Very god.

Sarrazin is driving Škoda, brand new car of his own team.

Also why do You think that Hyundai is worse?

[stefanvv]

This is live again - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/?ref=page_internal

[GigiGalliNo1]

I was expecting more from Lefebvre... said no one ever...

[ujtik1]

https://www.facebook.com/anto.schintu.9/videos/vb.100004886226317/693234340849434/?type=2&theater

Here another corner

[stefanvv]

This is live again - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/?ref=page_internal

wrong link, this should do - https://www.facebook.com/pg/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/?ref=page_internal

[dimviii]

ss4 live stream ,don't have facebook account,hope works for you guys
https://www.facebook.com/225590097494105/videos/1322744174445353/

[KKS]

Sarrazin is driving Škoda, brand new car of his own team.

Also why do You think that Hyundai is worse?
ewrc told that it's a #25 chassis which use by factory team twice

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/MaxiPixelRallye/videos/vb.252768361495859/1082434308529256/?type=3&theater

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Every link requires FB login... :(

[KKS]

Every link requires FB login... :(
https://www.facebook.com/MaxiPixelRallye/videos/1082434308529256/
https://www.facebook.com/anto.schintu.9/videos/693234340849434/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.facebook.com/MaxiPixelRallye/videos/1082434308529256/
https://www.facebook.com/anto.schintu.9/videos/693234340849434/

Same.

[dimviii]

Meeke 1,9 faster at 2nd split

[KKS]

Same.
For me at anonymous window in Chrome works well

[Fast Eddie WRC]

For me at anonymous window in Chrome works well

I use Chrome, how do I do that ?

[wwbroe]

Neuville one sec slower as Ogier in finish

[dimviii]

Breen impressive till now

[EightGear]

Meeke takes 2.2 seconds.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nueville says he's at the limit... cant match Ogier/Meeke.

[wwbroe]

So, Meeke 10 sec in front of Ogier, with Neuville in a good third overall.

[er88]

Meeke faster than Seb, again.

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[KKS]

I'm a Meeke fan, but I hope for good attack from Nueville tomorrow. He have pace and a position to that.

[dimviii]

Meeke faster today,if not slowing at Otts off, he would take all stage wins.

nice clip of him
https://twitter.com/inforallyes

[Mirek]

ewrc told that it's a #25 chassis which use by factory team twice

Thanks for correction. I thought he recently bought one. Maybe he has two in the team.

[dimviii]

Pienazek

https://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/36015_pieniazek_tourdecorse2017.jpg

[EstWRC]

shame about Tänak's off, i really think he could have fight for 3rd here....Breen very good and finally a decent time from Paddon on the final stage but overall im disappointed with him today.

[Mirek]

The first part of this second stage must be very wide and open, otherwise I can't explain how Kopecký with no power steering can be second fastest there (he looses plenty of time on the rest of the stage).

[dimviii]

The first part of this second stage must be very wide and open, otherwise I can't explain how Kopecký with no power steering can be second fastest there (he looses plenty of time on the rest of the stage).

yeap


David Serieys, Tour de Corse 2017 Director:
“The Plage de Liamone will be the major attraction at the start of the stage. Straight away the drivers will have to tackle a very quick uphill section on the way to Casaligione with its very tight hairpin, which always poses a problem.Then comes a change of pace and profile with a wide, twisty road leading to Pont de Furcina and then a string of quick corners and an uphill climb along a narrow winding bumpy road to the Calcatoggio hairpin.The road is very narrow and twisty so getting the apexes right will be a difficult task.*The crews will cross the villages of Sant’ Andrea d’Orcino and Cannelle along a road that poses another technical challenge and brings them to the Sari d’Orcino hairpin.*The next section is much wider and climbs uphill to Col de Sarzoggio followed by a pretty tricky downhill run to Sarrola-Carcopino, the end of the second stage.”
*Patrick Bernardini, Corsican driver two-time French Rally Champion:
“This special stage, with a distance of thirty kilometers, is less mythical than others but still displays some famous places. This includes particularly the notorious hairpins from Casaglione. At the beginning of the stage, the road is fast and wide, since it has been renovated for the local people. Before, the recces were quite complicated due the narrow roadway. After that, drivers reach a crossroad, the Furcina bridge and then they face the Calcatoggio hairpin. By the way, drivers will have to pay attention in the uphill climb, where there are always some cows on the road. On this part, the road is winding and narrow; it will be hard to cut the corners. Finally, the drivers can count on a fast and bumpy roadway with a lot of changes of pace. Overall, this stage is ideal to run some tests. There was an era where I used to go on these roads to make adjustments on my car. The local people know it by heart – I’ve often taken it to go to Sarrola – but it’s not very well-known by the public.
It’s a nice little stage, which follows a big one (SS1-3). In the nineties, the special stage was almost forty-one-kilometer long and we used to take it into the opposite direction. In 1996, I specifically remember starting at the third place behind Philippe Bugalski and François Delecour. I finished a few meters behind them, taking 1’59’’ over Bugalski and 1’48’’ over Delecour. I was on fire!”

[kubiczech]

The first part of this second stage must be very wide and open, otherwise I can't explain how Kopecký with no power steering can be second fastest there (he looses plenty of time on the rest of the stage).

I think i saw him on facebook live SS4, (downhill hairpin must be in the first half of stage), and it did not look like he had any problem, nice clean handbrake turn, fastest from R5 cars (i missed Mikkelsen)

[AL14]

I'm quite busy today and can't follow the rally properly. Anyway I'm happy that a busy day is happening this weekend since this rally for the third time in a row (out of three) seems quite boring.

[KKS]

Yes, that hairpin looks absolutly fine for Kopecky. Looks like at the begining of stage he has enough muscle power... and tired up to the stage

[Simmi]

Anyone know what the issues were for Loubet this morning? Sounded like he had a developing problem at the end of SS1 and then obviously quite big time loss on SS2. I genuinely think he'd have been on for his best result this weekend. Seems to have half decent pace.

[RS]

Anyone know what happened to Bouffier?

[kirungi okwogera]

Anyone know what the issues were for Loubet this morning? Sounded like he had a developing problem at the end of SS1 and then obviously quite big time loss on SS2. I genuinely think he'd have been on for his best result this weekend. Seems to have half decent pace.
https://en-gb.facebook.com/PiLouLoubet/
"We just finished this first day. We took it as an learning chance !
We improved stage after stage, our times are not so bad, in the WRC2 Top3.
Unfortunately, this brake trouble in the 2nd stage has stolen us the third place tonight.
But the best is still coming and we will be back stronger.
I really enjoyed the car, it makes me so happy.
Now, we are on our way to Bastia for the service. Look forward to tomorrow. "

[ZequeArgentina]

Sarrazin is driving Škoda, brand new car of his own team.

Also why do You think that Hyundai is worse?

Yes, you are right. Sorry, my mistake for not checking about the Skoda. And regarding competitiveness of Hyundai R5, just because there have been no good results with that car (even with few drivers using it). Paddon showed good speed in San Remo but only won 1 stage vs the Peugeot 28, which has consesnsus not to be the best car. I know Paddon does not have same knowledge as Andreucci, etc.

Can you say Hyndai is on top of R5? same level as Skoda or Fiesta?

[dimviii]

Michelin video
https://youtu.be/MnTw66tGYkY

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/850373119013466112

So frustrating for @OttTanak. Just passed his car looking almost damage free, on the road and being driven back to Bastia.

[Simmi]

Can you say Hyundai is on top of R5? same level as Skoda or Fiesta?

I just don't think we've seen enough of the car yet to be honest. They are too much of a rare sighting at the moment to say definitively how quick.

[EstWRC]

Märtin is Tanaks mentor, haven't seen any footage but I think that Ott had same kind of crash today like his mentor :p

https://youtu.be/BjoBJUqefzs

[Mirek]

Can you say Hyndai is on top of R5? same level as Skoda or Fiesta?

I can say neither it is nor it isn't. I simply don't know. I just have a feeling that Hyundai doesn't really care about the R5.

[Simmi]

Märtin is Tanaks mentor, haven't seen any footage but I think that Ott had same kind of crash today like his mentor :p

https://youtu.be/BjoBJUqefzs

I remember that one well. He did a pretty good job of remodeling the Focus, unlike Ott thankfully!

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2003/wrc/ko/ot_c_3_martin_1.jpg

[A FONDO]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C80xn_hXkAAtEPd.jpg

[lewalcindor]

Yes, you are right. Sorry, my mistake for not checking about the Skoda. And regarding competitiveness of Hyundai R5, just because there have been no good results with that car (even with few drivers using it). Paddon showed good speed in San Remo but only won 1 stage vs the Peugeot 28, which has consesnsus not to be the best car. I know Paddon does not have same knowledge as Andreucci, etc.

Can you say Hyndai is on top of R5? same level as Skoda or Fiesta?
I thought the Peugeot 208 T16 was supposed to be quite fast and competitive, whose downfall was it's abysmal mechanical reliability. Am I wrong?

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[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C80613cXUAUWviy?format=jpg&name=large

[Mirek]

I thought the Peugeot 208 T16 was supposed to be quite fast and competitive, whose downfall was it's abysmal mechanical reliability. Am I wrong?

The most critical issues seem to be solved (overheating, pop-of valve position) but it's still relatively less reliable car although a lot of those issues are probably caused by the simple fact that unlike Škoda or M-Sport PSA sells its cars also as kits. For sure not all cars are assembles on factory level. PSA cars generally seem to be quite good on twisty and smooth asphalt stages but they don't seem to be so competitive on gravel or on rough and very fast asphalts.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C81AI_tWsAA9j7x.jpg

[EstWRC]

Not a single scratch on the car !!! Damn

https://twitter.com/officialwrc/status/850402939466330113

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtCf3MN0tEs
Meeke and Keferbve looks less understeering car than all others "no handbrake" cars

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Guys, how to renew the WRC+ subscription with the free code..? I'm always stuck in the payment methods because I don't have credit cards nor PayPal..

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[A FONDO]

nice comparison vid from SS1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdZaUW9HHKc Sordo :hot:

and a close one from Shakedown - must have been nice live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFkFFdfj-A

p.s. this kid found the perfect spot of the whole rally... shame the clip is poor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFkPzXSvWo

[KKS]

Guys, how to renew the WRC+ subscription with the free code..? I'm always stuck in the payment methods because I don't have credit cards nor PayPal..

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[dimviii]

Neuville

https://www.facebook.com/LaTulaSport.es/videos/10154333908805404/

[EstWRC]

fresh comments from Ott to estonian media. "There was a long corner and in the end there was much more gravel than he expected and the car just slid off. He says he is massively disappointed because he put a lot of energy and effort to finally have a good result on this rally. Everything was going really well so far."

[rayh_mx]

p.s. this kid found the perfect spot of the whole rally... shame the clip is poor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFkPzXSvWo

What did he say? :p

[bluuford]

Anyone on the SP today or tomorrow? or Sunday;)

[Antony Warmbold]

Nice to see that competition is back to normal this year with Ogier in an average car. Party is over.

[Mintexmemory]

Nice to see that competition is back to normal this year with Ogier in an average car. Party is over.


Glad you are engaged Herr Warmbold - but the Champ is still champing and has a little in hand!

[spiderem]

What did he say? :p

That he has amazing movie editing skills.

[stefanvv]

Nice to see that competition is back to normal this year with Ogier in an average car. Party is over.

How much credit You would give to the new car regulations?

[satukata]

Pretty good speed in Toyota. JM blaiming his driving... Even Juho was fast before crash. I was expecting slower times. Hope they can improve tomorrow!

[mousti]

I just don't think we've seen enough of the car yet to be honest. They are too much of a rare sighting at the moment to say definitively how quick.

We probably never see that car at his best, because I heard some rumours that development has stopped and all the time is invested now in Hyundai's TCR car..

[bluuford]

We probably never see that car at his best, because I heard some rumours that development has stopped and all the time is invested now in Hyundai's TCR car..
I am not so sure. I heard that Stefan was testing Hyundai for three long days, everything was ready for him in service and then, on the last moment he decided to appear with his own team and Skoda.. hi tent is just 10 meters from Hyundai main office, very VIP position :P

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak

It's a bit of an empty feeling to finish the day like we did because I was really enjoying the stages. But that's life. Sometime's it tough, but we will fight back!!
We were caught out by some gravel on a long corner and got stuck on a steep bank with no chance of getting back to the stage. It's disappointing as there was basically no damage on the car, but now we need to focus on the positives.

In the past I've always struggled at this event. But this year we had a good test and worked hard on our pacenotes. The hard work seems to have paid off as we were setting good times and matching the 'Tarmac experts'.

We have to be happy with that, and we just needed a little more luck today

[Kris82]

I don't think this has been brought up.
https://twitter.com/davidevansrally/status/850255558594646020/photo/1
Apparently Kris had a problem with a bleeding nose before SS1. He might have drove with it bleeding.

I'm surprised at Neuville's comment about pushing as hard as he can and falling behind. After Monaco and Sweden many of us thought Hyundai had the fastest car. This is a very twisty road and it's torque not top speed that makes the difference. Does that mean Citroen has the best torque out of all the cars while Hyundai best hp? We're going to have to wait for other rallys to confirm that.
So many plot twists this season so far. Love it. WRC hasn't been this interesting in a long time.

[KKS]

Märtin is Tanaks mentor, haven't seen any footage but I think that Ott had same kind of crash today like his mentor :p

https://youtu.be/BjoBJUqefzs
you are absolutely right!
ps onboard avalible on wrc+

[Kris82]

SS1 and SS2 highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na3jaPLZ-Mg
SS3 and SS4 highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_km_tswzDE

[Rally Power]

Will Meeke be able to stay on the road? That’s the doubt that probably everyone in Corsica is having for tomorrow. Ogier and Neuville seems to be struggling to keep his pace and if the Brit manages to handle the pressure it’ll be hard for them to win this one. Breen is doing another amazing demonstration; steadily faster and a handy Citroen B plan for the podium, in case Meeke eventually decide to try a ditch. Mikkelsen is on his own class in WRC2 and besides Sarrazin one other French is doing fine: Rossel, on a DS3 backed by FFSA. He was already fast on a R3 car last year and has now moved to a R5. On the opposite sense is Solans, actual JWRC leader. He’s returning to 2wd cars after having competed on WRC2.

Btw, no doubt that Corsica’s roads are beautiful and demanding, but this long stages route just sucks!

[N.O.T]

I don't think this has been brought up.
https://twitter.com/davidevansrally/status/850255558594646020/photo/1
Apparently Kris had a problem with a bleeding nose before SS1. He might have drove with it bleeding.


that is not blood. Unless kris has a haematocrit of around 20.

[KKS]

Does that mean Citroen has the best torque out of all the cars while Hyundai best hp?
So far on videos I see that Citroens are incredibly fast on corners. So here good settings of central diff is more valuable than hp or torque

[Rally Power]

The most critical issues seem to be solved (overheating, pop-of valve position) but it's still relatively less reliable car although a lot of those issues are probably caused by the simple fact that unlike Škoda or M-Sport PSA sells its cars also as kits. For sure not all cars are assembles on factory level.

Actually, Peugeot Academy/Sainteloc cars were directly built by PS and they are amongst the most unreliable 208’s ever. The car was released with major faults and the Evo kit, that supposedly was designed to solve them, added some few more! Let’s hope the new Evo2 is the right step to put the car on a higher level.

[itix]

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see this posted in here. Hänninens crash, really violent. I'm surprised the car was still relatively intact after that.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154528339045678&id=35390480677

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Matton interview tonight saying they have made a big step in testing and are not now using anything learned from their previous cars.

Everything is new for the C3 and he believes they are still only at 70-80% of the cars potential.

[Kris82]

So far on videos I see that Citroens are incredibly fast on corners. So here good settings of central diff is more valuable than hp or torque

Torque is out of corner, off the line pushing force. I'm sure center diff being looser on Citroens makes them more nimble in the corners and less understeery which on these twisty roads does make a difference. But Hyundais didn't seem as understeery as Toyotas so I'll stick to my assumption of torque being the difference. Especially since on fairly twisty mexican gravel with a totally different center diff setup Meeke was also faster
It must be the torque out of corners that makes the difference.

EDIT: Would be nice to see a video comparison of out of corner speed.

[lewalcindor]

Actually, Peugeot Academy/Sainteloc cars were directly built by PS and they are amongst the most unreliable 208’s ever. The car was released with major faults and the Evo kit, that supposedly was designed to solve them, added some few more! Let’s hope the new Evo2 is the right step to put the car on a higher level.
Yes, I remember watching some of those ERC highlights. Both Craig Breen and Kevin Abbring were quite fast in the Peugeot Academy 208s during the first round of stages (especially Abbring), but their cars' abysmal reliability let them down constantly.

[COD]

Pretty good speed in Toyota. JM blaiming his driving... Even Juho was fast before crash. I was expecting slower times. Hope they can improve tomorrow!

You have seriously colored glasses.
Being a fan is fine, denying facts is another matter

[steve.mandzij]

You have seriously colored glasses.
Being a fan is fine, denying facts is another matter
What facts go against what he said? Honestly?

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[N.O.T]

What facts go against what he said? Honestly?

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maybe the fact that they are only faster than Paddon... maybe.

[KKS]

It must be the torque out of corners that makes the difference.

If you don't have a straight ahead - torque is not make big difference.

[steve.mandzij]

maybe the fact that they are only faster than Paddon... maybe.
Latvala, gravel specialist, behind four Tarmac specialists and Meeke. Yep, they suck, huh?

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[dimviii]

Hanninen on fire
https://youtu.be/M79KJedZMsY

[janvanvurpa]

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see this posted in here. Hänninens crash, really violent. I'm surprised the car was still relatively intact after that.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154528339045678&id=35390480677

Fan grabben ja åker likadant när jag gassa ner till macken för en pakett ciggareter.. Det var inget! Bara tuta o kör

[itix]

What facts go against what he said? Honestly?

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... She

[Kris82]

If you don't have a straight ahead - torque is not make big difference.

I does. It gets you quicker to another corner :)

[WUff1]

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see this posted in here. Hänninens crash, really violent. I'm surprised the car was still relatively intact after that.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154528339045678&id=35390480677


They´ve been lucky, could also throw the car down the ravine ...

[A FONDO]

First stage of the day to begin soon but is 50kms so results after about an hour.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C83f7RyWsAEzFeT.jpg

Ogier must finally begin pushing like he used to in the past or I'll curse him.

[stefanvv]

Lefebvre crashed

[dimviii]

Lefebvre hit a wall and stopped

Filter:


Sat 08:54 - SS5: Lefebvre update
The Frenchman has stopped after clouting a small wall at the side of the stage. He and co-driver Gabin Moreau are trying to fix the rear wheel on the car so they can rejoin the action.

[er88]

Lefebvre continuing to be a joke. What a dud. Citreon need to act and give Andreas a call...

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[MikeD]

OMG, Lefebvre is not only really really slow, he has also just crashed. Getting more and more sure this will be his final rally for Citroën!

[MikeD]

Evans look like he's just running to make sure he scores Manufacturer points for M-Sport.

[dimviii]

Meeke faster at 2nd split.

[KKS]

Go home Leferbve!

[dimviii]

Tanak slow 2nd split.

[EstWRC]

Cmon Tänak stop this high speed recce...you need to show your tarmac speed for the doubters :p

[dimviii]

Ogier not good 3rd split.

[EstWRC]

Ogier not good 3rd split.

Meeke 5 secs faster

[KKS]

Cmon Tänak stop this high speed recce...you need to show your tarmac speed for the doubters :p
As I remember, on this kind of situation he lost his motivation at all. Sunday driving mode on Saturday.

[er88]

Ogier can't match Meeke's pace. Again

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[KKS]

Go Nueville?
Go Nueville!
:)

[dimviii]

Latvala loosing a lot

[Lead]

Looks Hyundai found something overnight.

[EstWRC]

As I remember, on this kind of situation he lost his motivation at all. Sunday driving mode on Saturday.

well he has nothing to fight for...it would be stupid to go out second day in a row.

[dimviii]

good splits from Hanninen

[KKS]

Nueville flying! -4.5 on Meeke

[KKS]

too many wrc2 dots near Koci car..... I'm a worry about him. Fingers crossed!

[MikeD]

Nice splits from Neuville! Proving he's still very strong on tarmac.

[EstWRC]

Paddon lost again, im getting really worried about him

[satukata]

Juho Hänninen good speed again! Hope he don´t crash again.

[er88]

Neuville battering Ogier. It's almost abuse

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[EstWRC]

Ogier 15 secs slower than Neuville in last split

[dimviii]

Hanninen faster from Meeke at 4th split

[KKS]

And Nueville up to 2nd

[dimviii]

Opens&Tightens‏*@OpensTightens
#WRC #TourdeCorse #WRC2 SS5
@Koci_M went off road.
Stage is stopped to allow medical crew assist them.
More info to come.

[Lead]

Sounds like huge crash. Hope they are both Ok.

[EstWRC]

Ogier stayed in second, just 0.6 ahead of Neuville

[er88]

Tanak slow

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[Eli]

very tight battle this morning...will be an interesting day.

[EstWRC]

welcome to Tänak's world Ogier!

[KKS]

Finnaly one champ back to the ground from his cloudly cheaty car

[AL14]

Paddon lost again, im getting really worried about him

It seems he is struggling a lot with the new car and finding the right setup.

[er88]

Ogier sounding rattled there. No longer in by far the best car/ team

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[Eli]

16.4 seconds..hoping he can keep it up.

[KKS]

And now Ogier try to push and things will be more funny :D

[stefanvv]

Tanak's car sick again

[Eli]

Tanak's car sick again

his rally was over yesterday when he went in the ditch...Corsica remains a bad hunting ground for him...on a different note 2nd quickest for Hanninen, not too bad!!

[Lead]

Great time for Hanninen.

[EstWRC]

that Ford is is very fragile, nightmare rally for them at the moment

[KKS]

Poor Ott, he again caught by badluck. Finnaly switch cars with Ogier!!!

[dimviii]

Neuville blitzed them. Nice,now 3 way battle.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8363-2WAAAtVnH.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C837icRXcAA-7Tt.jpg

[Eli]

that Ford is is very fragile, nightmare rally for them at the moment

don't worry, you can count on Malcolm they'll bounce back asap.

[BigWorm]

Neuville blitzed them. Nice,now 3 way battle.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8363-2WAAAtVnH.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C837icRXcAA-7Tt.jpg

With the 3 best drivers!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hahahahahninen.

[KKS]

Suninen very quick! faster even than Sarazain!

[Dejan]

Very good time for Hanninen.

[EstWRC]

Neuville has won a stage every rally now

[MikeD]

that Ford is is very fragile, nightmare rally for them at the moment

It's not a nightmare. Ogier will setlle for second. He's so good at being a consistent point scorer. If you can't win, make sure you are second. It's only a loss of 7 points and Meeke is quite far behind in the points. I bet that M-Sport will ask Ogier to secure 2nd to make sure they collect as many Manufacturer points now that Tänak is out and Evans so far behind in the standings.

[KKS]

Suninen very quick! faster even than Sarazain!
ohhh... and lost ~10sec at last split

[er88]

It's not a nightmare. Ogier will setlle for second. He's so good at being a consistent point scorer. If you can't win, make sure you are second. It's only a loss of 7 points and Meeke is quite far behind in the points. I bet that M-Sport will ask Ogier to secure 2nd to make sure they collect as many Manufacturer points now that Tänak is out and Evans so far behind in the standings.
I think Neuville is going to have a say about that

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[EstWRC]

It's not a nightmare. Ogier will setlle for second. He's so good at being a consistent point scorer. If you can't win, make sure you are second. It's only a loss of 7 points and Meeke is quite far behind in the points. I bet that M-Sport will ask Ogier to secure 2nd to make sure they collect as many Manufacturer points now that Tänak is out and Evans so far behind in the standings.

nightmare in the sense that both Evans and Tänak have had car problems but it seems Malcolm has made a tank for Ogier to definetly secure the championship

[KKS]

I bet that M-Sport will ask Ogier to secure 2nd to make sure they collect as many Manufacturer points
He can't secure that with safe driving being just 0.6 ahead!

[satukata]

Toyota have speed but in wrong car. Hanninen 20sec faster than JM. Jm have cleaner road.. Now JM have to try more!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Or Ogier is a better driver with the car sympathy...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Four different cars in the top 4 on that stage... nice.

[EstWRC]

Or Ogier is a better driver with the car sympathy...

i want that stuff what you eat

[KKS]

Or Ogier is a better driver with the car sympathy...
hm......NO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAQBIpfA0E4

[MikeD]

He can't secure that with safe driving being just 0.6 ahead!

Don't underestimate Ogier. He's a 4 time champion. He will be on it tomorrow! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans: "Nice stage to start the day but some tricky sections with gravel where we need to be really patient. The car is working well now."

[wrc2017]

It's not a nightmare. Ogier will setlle for second. He's so good at being a consistent point scorer. If you can't win, make sure you are second. It's only a loss of 7 points and Meeke is quite far behind in the points. I bet that M-Sport will ask Ogier to secure 2nd to make sure they collect as many Manufacturer points now that Tänak is out and Evans so far behind in the standings.

2nd? Neville just took 15s in one stage.. 3rd maybe

[wrc2017]

Or Ogier is a better driver with the car sympathy...

there always has been that theory in motorsport.. maybe.

[A FONDO]

It's not a nightmare. Ogier will setlle for second. He's so good at being a consistent point scorer. If you can't win, make sure you are second. It's only a loss of 7 points and Meeke is quite far behind in the points. I bet that M-Sport will ask Ogier to secure 2nd to make sure they collect as many Manufacturer points now that Tänak is out and Evans so far behind in the standings.

I do not want a champion like this :down:

[KKS]

Don't underestimate Ogier. He's a 4 time champion. He will be on it tomorrow! ;)
He just lucky man, being in right place, in right time. He world champ only because that Latvala and Mikkelsen couldn't match him... all other just with wrong car.

[dodge33cymru]

Has there been any word on Koci yet?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

i want that stuff what you eat

Cant be luck.. it happens all the time.

[dimviii]

Tanak on road section after ss5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84BrymXgAAEVmr.jpg

[KKS]

Tanak repair a car and heading to next stage. Now we can see super-fast road section from him :)

[EstWRC]

he is on his way to the stage now, he needs badly those stage km's

[cali]

Tanak repair a car and heading to next stage. Now we can see super-fast road section from him :)
Splits please :)

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[dimviii]

Has there been any word on Koci yet?

Sat 09:47 - SS5: Update
There's now a gap in the flow of cars as the medical crews have been sent into the stage to deal with an incident involving WRC 2 driver Martin Koci.

[dimviii]

start of ss6

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84CARJXoAEOrx3.jpg

[MikeD]

He just lucky man, being in right place, in right time. He world champ only because that Latvala and Mikkelsen couldn't match him... all other just with wrong car.

What a load of nonsense!!!

[KKS]

and Tanak stop again :(

[satukata]

Tanak moving and speed was 135kph!!

[EstWRC]

SS5: TÄNAK UPDATE
The Estonian has carried out some roadside repairs to his sick Ford Fiesta RS WRC. He's changed the spark plugs, coil pack and ECU in a bid get the car running better. He's now headed to SS6 to see if he can get through that stage and on to the midday service.

[satukata]

Toyota´s tarmac speed is much better what i expected. Go Toyota!!!

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84FraGXUAAnBiX?format=jpg&name=large

[HarriK]

Tanak repair a car and heading to next stage. Now we can see super-fast road section from him :)

for now top 140kmh

[kiil]

nightmare in the sense that both Evans and Tänak have had car problems but it seems Malcolm has made a tank for Ogier to definetly secure the championship

So Msport would, on purpose, build 1 reliable car for Ogier, and 2 unreliable cars for Tänak and Evans? Explain the theory please :-)

[EstWRC]

So Msport would, on purpose, build 1 reliable car for Ogiet, and 2 unreliable cars for Tänak and Evans? Explain the theory please :-)

did i say so? dont bend the words or make things up

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84FrU0XYAAEA2G.jpg

[kiil]

did i say so? dont bend the words or make things up

Bend words? How can your words be interpreted in any other way?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84E3bAXUAAfyUd.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C84E4EwXgAALOKD.jpg

[KKS]

Stage was live on TV?

[SubaruNorway]

I heard it was injector problems on the Fiesta before, maybe not so easy to change?

Just live feed at the stage end from the stage right, nothing on some french channel?

[EstWRC]

evans off

[dimviii]

Sat 10:30 - SS6: Evans
The Welshman has left the road after the first split. His DMACK Fiesta WRC has gone straight on at a left-hand bend. The car is stranded and he won't be rejoining.

[satukata]

Ogier poor split time.....

[AL14]

Sat 10:30 - SS6: Evans
The Welshman has left the road after the first split. His DMACK Fiesta WRC has gone straight on at a left-hand bend. The car is stranded and he won't be rejoining.

And now we cannot watch splits properly lol

[dimviii]

Ogier seems settled for 3rd

[KKS]

what a useless dogs.... they run this stage live afternoon, they have all kind of camers and etc.... but they didn't streaming first passage! Idiots!

[er88]

Ogier seems settled for 3rd
He doesn't have the speed to beat Neuville or Meeke. He won't be too pleased

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[Eli]

He doesn't have the speed to beat Neuville or Meeke. He won't be too pleased

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he doesn't need to this time round 'cause they are far away from him in the championship standings...btw what a drive by Craig Breen, no intercom for a 20Km stage, and I believe there are 25 corners per Kilometer, pretty impressive imho.

[EstWRC]

Ogier sounding quite lost

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Noooo Meeke !!

[EstWRC]

Meeke on in troube, just 1.5 secs ahead of Neuville now

[KKS]

Meekeee..... Jesus Christ, Kris!

[er88]

So unfair for Meeke. Devastating

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[dimviii]

Meeke on problems

[Eli]

Luckily for him he has service, hopefully he'll get there.

[satukata]

Meeke retire!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Engine's blown.

[EstWRC]

Tänak faster than Ogier, nice


Meeke :( ...

[KKS]

Agrrr.... I can't describe that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[satukata]

Great timo for Juho again. 3rd fastest!

[KKS]

Can Breen towing him to the service?

[EstWRC]

Hanninen very impressive this morning, 3rd time this time

[TWRC]

Can Breen towing him to the service?
If he really blew his engine, what can they do with that in service?

[bassist]

Oh, bloody hell Kris, my nerves will not stand this anymore!

[Eli]

god damn it Kris...so disappointing...

[mknight]

Great timo for Juho again. 3rd fastest!

Sorry but this is just irritating. He has been the same last time he had a drive. Decent times just before or after a crash but totally uneven overall results. This year its exactly the same. I like his personality but he just does not have it.

[BigWorm]

That's horrible. Can he make it bacl to service?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tänak faster than Ogier, nice


Car not so bad then... ;)

[KKS]

If he really blew his engine, what can they do with that in service?
And if not... we know only one subjective opinion from reporter

[EstWRC]

Kris, call Tänak, he is a very good mechanic, he will fix it :p

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing‏*@CitroenRacing 2m

#WRC @SLefebvreRallye won't start SS6, maximum lateness exceeded

Meeke with blown engine

Breen without intercom.

this stage was where last year Meeke retired.

citroen catastrophe at this stage.

[satukata]

Poor Citroen

[EstWRC]

Citroën Racing‏ @CitroenRacing 24s24 seconds ago
More
#WRC #tourdecorse @krismeeke and @paulnagle1 have to retire from today. Engine issue reported...

[KKS]

Meeke has live stage phobia

[AL14]

Poor Citroen

These guys are really used with suffering

[dimviii]

its official now

Citroën Racing‏*@CitroenRacing
#WRC #tourdecorse @krismeeke and @paulnagle1 have to retire from today. Engine issue reported...


Meeke never was lucky...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke out confirmed. :(

[mknight]

Meeke never was lucky...

Mexico too long ago to remember?

[er88]

Meeke and Neuville are now the fastest drivers in the WRC, but Ogier will still cruise to a 5th title. At least we go into rallies now knowing that 3 or 4 drivers can realistically win though

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[dimviii]

Mexico too long ago to remember?

I cant say that you are wrong,but cant remember how many citroen engines have blown at last 20 years.

[Eli]

Meeke out confirmed. :(

didn't deserve it this time and after all the hard work from the Citroen team, looking so strong in this rally, such a shame...guess now any title hopes he had are gone now...on the bright side Craig will fight for the podium spot (hopefully) & hopefully Thierry will capitalize & win the Rally from Ogier making it 4 out of 4 ;)

[EstWRC]

Meeke didnt have any title hopes anyway, no one has as long as Ogier is in the series. but thats just my opinion

[satukata]

Ott Tänak‏ @OttTanak 32 s32 sekuntia sitten
Lisää
SS6: "Through the stage and now heading back to service where our technicians will get the Fiesta purring again."

[AL14]

Neuville leading now, let's see how the last staurday stage goes :)

[Bartek]

Meeke and Neuville are now the fastest drivers in the WRC, but Ogier will still cruise to a 5th title. At least we go into rallies now knowing that 3 or 4 drivers can realistically win though

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I think it's important to mention that they are driving a cars which are developed by them and Ogier is driving Fiesta which he tested just few weeks before Monte.

[Eli]

Meeke didnt have any title hopes anyway, no one has as long as Ogier is in the series. but thats just my opinion

I was talking about the title hopes he had not me for him. I believe that Ogier will take the title this year as in previous years his competitors are not robust enough or not consistent enough to challenge him throughout the season. again on the bright side if Craig continues the road he's at he could well challenge for wins next year once he's familiar with all the rallies but again that's just imho.

[EstWRC]

ok got it, fair enough

[TWRC]

I cant say that you are wrong,but cant remember how many citroen engines have blown at last 20 years.
At the beginning of the Xsara era, there were quite a few, actually Loeb had the most if I remember well.

[Eli]

If I recall correctly, the last time Citroen had an Engine Issue was back in Alsace 2011 for Loeb with the DS3 and the time before hand was in Monte-Carlo back in 2008 for Dani Sordo with the Citroen C4.

[KKS]

At the beginning of the Xsara era, there were quite a few, actually Loeb had the most if I remember well.
Loeb:
Alsace`11
Japan`07
Sweden`05
Acropolis`03

[Teardrop]

Meeke and Neuville are now the fastest drivers in the WRC, but Ogier will still cruise to a 5th title. At least we go into rallies now knowing that 3 or 4 drivers can realistically win though

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I agree. The championship is balanced in the fight for the victory in each rally, but Ogier has been regular and the championship seems to be controlled and the fifth title seems to be an inivitability.
As for this rally, we will finally see if Neuville has big balls and if he's able to capitalize the good pace and the good fights during the rally with the final victory. If he can, it will be brutal for the championship...4 rallys...4 manufacturers...4 wins for each one.
Who thought this could be possible a few months ago?!
Go Neuville...

[maciotacio]

So the stage was live on TV but only for a few lads in the service park? I just don't get it, why not to stream it in their masterpiece wrc+ site...
So much drama in this stage, and we only rely on the radio feed...

[Mirek]

Sorry but this is just irritating. He has been the same last time he had a drive. Decent times just before or after a crash but totally uneven overall results. This year its exactly the same. I like his personality but he just does not have it.

There was a time when he didn't crash much and when he was able to regularly beat Mikkelsen and Neuville but it all went wrong when he stopped with Škoda and ended with trying to prove himself with single private starts.

[Eli]

Loeb:
Alsace`11
Japan`07
Sweden`05
Acropolis`03
in Japan he crashed, pace note error from Elena remember? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1sEuyu5K4

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So the stage was live on TV but only for a few lads in the service park? I just don't get it, why not to stream it in their masterpiece wrc+ site...
So much drama in this stage, and we only rely on the radio feed...

Agree... this happens on most rallies, the big screen shows the stage at the SP but not it's shown elsewhere. :(

[RS]

Why have times from ss6 stopped coming through?

[KKS]

Why have times from ss6 stopped coming through?
Cuz SS5 was interrupted and cars after restart of SS5 only now arrive to SS6 TC

[KKS]

in Japan he crashed, pace note error from Elena remember? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1sEuyu5K4
oops.

Yes, you right!

[mknight]

Loeb:
Alsace`11
Japan`07
Sweden`05
Acropolis`03

Sweden 05 was speculated to be related to his off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpvG6-vlK1c
I also remember that the Alsace issue was rumored to be partly due to some small error (maybe was more of a conspiracy theory by Ogier), didnt find any vid of that.

1-2 engine issues over 10 years then.

[RS]

There was a time when he didn't crash much and when he was able to regularly beat Mikkelsen and Neuville but it all went wrong when he stopped with Škoda and ended with trying to prove himself with single private starts.

At least he is fast and crashy rather than slow and crashy like some others.

Tommi should at least give him the full season (which he has never had in a World Rally Car) to see whether he can make the grade.

Lefebrve; imo they tried to progress his career too quickly without doing the groundwork. He went from R2 cars in ERC one year to a World Rally Car in WRC the next.. and then of course he had the accident.

[Eli]

Sweden 05 was speculated to be related to his off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpvG6-vlK1c
I also remember that the Alsace issue was rumored to be partly due to some small error (maybe was more of a conspiracy theory by Ogier), didnt find any vid of that.

1-2 engine issues over 10 years then.

also Sweden 2008 engine problems day 2 I think it was after Loeb crashed out in day 1 or was it the same day can't remember. also next event afterwards in Mexico they also had engine issues, but yes overall pretty reliable cars for the Citroen factory,shame it hit Meeke when he could of had back to back wins & first win on tarmac. Let's hope it's the last time they have engine issues for another 6 years ;)

[RS]

Is the live stage this afternoon streamed online at Red Bull tv?

[N.O.T]

Nice job Shitroen... worthless dogs.

[stefanvv]

Is the live stage this afternoon streamed online at Red Bull tv?

It is, PS tomorrow not.

[RS]

It is, PS tomorrow not.

Thanks, that means I can watch it at work :)