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steveaki13

20th February 2017, 19:50

Hi all. Sorry I havent been around for a while.

So with the 2017 season heading our way the first team released their new car today. Sauber unveiled their challenger. It looks a hybrid to me, but different livery and interesting to see the similarity between 2016 & 2017. Whether this will change after testing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39027078 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/39027078)

For those who cant see the BBC page.

https://cdn-9.motorsport.com/images/amp/6OOww9J6/s6/f1-sauber-c36-launch-2017-sauber-c36.jpg

Tazio

21st February 2017, 03:01

Nice, although I think chrome would look better than the gold and be a better symbol of their 25th anniversary. Nice improvement though!
A lot of McSpeculation about the McLaren livery. These are making the rounds:

http://www.f1supernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/thejudge13.files_.wordpress.commclaren-mlc32-spy-shot-20-356def377f68fdda26d33fd93d6838c239829f5a.jpg

http://www.f1supernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/thejudge13.files_.wordpress.commclaren-mlc32-spy-shot-20-b0457a1e4aa1e069fc1ed88d581616d66a7e68a0-678x360.jpg
https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/mclaren-mlc32-spy-shot-2017-f1-3.jpg?w=740
https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/mclaren-mlc32-spy-shot-2017-f1-4.jpg?w=740
Credit to: Thejudge13 and F1supernews.com
Has someone decided to give up and start leaking images of the new Mclaren?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4Wh2kwWQAACzGT.jpg:large

big_sw2000

21st February 2017, 09:56

ATF

21st February 2017, 13:02

I like that last picture of the McLaren - hope that is the livery they go with. Not sure about the Sauber though, it reminds me of the Rothmans Williams Renault!

Tazio

22nd February 2017, 02:44

Renault aii the way back to its original colors for the R.S. 17. What do you guys think?

https://cdn-7.motorsport.com/images/mgl/2ep9m1m0/s8/f1-renault-sport-f1-team-rs17-launch-2017-the-renault-sport-f1-team-rs17.jpg

Mia 01

22nd February 2017, 06:54

If it´s as fast as it looks it will be a killer.

Koz

22nd February 2017, 08:55

If Taz's pic is a little dark: http://i.imgur.com/wq1JjHW.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lh8oaRT.jpg
Looks fantastic!

Bunch more pics here: http://imgur.com/r/formula1/QWMxa

steveaki13

22nd February 2017, 10:48

Sexy as hell but needs to be fast.

Glad to see Renault getting some more black into its livery. Looks menacing rather than bananna like.

A FONDO

22nd February 2017, 16:14

Force India ugly af

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5RnsqnWIAAgNVL.jpg

Stan Reid

22nd February 2017, 20:23

With all these cookie cutter cars, they might just as well change the name from Formula 1 to IROC.:o

Koz

23rd February 2017, 07:10

Force India ugly af

I wish they would go back to the old White-Green-Orange livery.

ATF

23rd February 2017, 16:00

Force India ugly af

Concisely (and accurately) put.

A FONDO

23rd February 2017, 17:39

New Merc on daylight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5WeMU-WAAAiTdJ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5WePCpW8AAzb5y.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5WeOavWMAA0RO4.jpg

Storm

23rd February 2017, 18:21

stupid shit with the shark fins...., first the ant-eater noses now this..
the liveries always look great without the sponsor stuff...Renault giving me vibes of old Jordans...Sauber looks good too.

Stan Reid

24th February 2017, 00:39

MB is the best looking so far-at least, it doesn't have the Kilroy nose.1252

Storm

24th February 2017, 01:37

They showed that you don't need that proboscis to win, now they'll show you don't need the fin either.
Probably due to their monster engine :)

The Black Knight

24th February 2017, 08:06

That Merc looks beautiful and super fast. Lets hope it is a good as it seems. Mercedes can then give a middle finger to RBR and Bernie for trying to force new rules through since the beginning of the hybrid era then as soon as it was obvious RBR wasn't going dominate anymore. I think it would be a very bad thing for the F1 political climate should RBR get back to regular winning this year. They don't deserve it and need to be put in their place.

They are a cancer of F1 and I honestly wish they would leave the sport.

Hopefully Mercedes, McLaren, Williams and Ferrari can produce something special. The Force India looks sleek as well. I hope they can put it up to the big boys.

AndyL

24th February 2017, 10:19

Ferrari have some pictures of the SF70H up now: http://sf70h.ferrari.com/en/ They have a big old shark fin, with a funny little skinny wing on the back end of it.
McLaren's launch of the MCL32 will be on YouTube at 11AM GMT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpFjtMvIr4g

Koz

24th February 2017, 10:32

http://ferrari-view.4me.it/api/xcontents/resources/delivery/getThumbnail/ferrari/1240x717/d85be5c0-960c-4163-b0f8-1a93fb72f976?v=3

Those side pods are so cute and menacing!

Fucking badass!

http://imgur.com/a/XZwgV

Koz

24th February 2017, 12:09

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5bPG8hWcAAfxr4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5bPF67WcAAPVTl.jpg

I am so underwhelmed. I was expecting more from the orange.

I think it's fugly.

Koz

24th February 2017, 12:16

http://i.imgur.com/lHey2Qr.png

I know it's weird because of the shade, but come on, that's a Marussia with a Honda sticker...

[I screenshoted it from the official McLaren website, didn't edit in any way]

keysersoze

24th February 2017, 12:25

Too much talk about color and not enough about details--you all sound like a bunch of girls.

I find the McLaren radiator covers radically different--can see the ground (or is that an optical illusion?). Also, they are the only team (so far) to go with scalloped edges dropping from the nose (the Mercedes' are a bit further back, and the Renault's dropped edge is straight). FI opted for a more angled, stepped nose (where the suspension attaches) than the others and, as usual, their nose design is wildly different from the others.

What else design-wise, am I not seeing? What do you notice that I need to pay attention to as a fan?

Mark

24th February 2017, 12:34

McLaren often debut their cars in orange then change it for the season. Looks like they are going to stick with orange this year, which is nice, although not orange enough for my liking.

Koz

24th February 2017, 12:47

That's not ground, just white paint.

It has the same kind of gills on the rear wing as on the nose. Is it stepped? I can't tell.

Sidepods and intake seem smaller than some of the other cars.

Oh, and if it's not pretty how can you expect it to be fast? :p

A FONDO

24th February 2017, 12:48

Mark

24th February 2017, 12:58

They are remarkably similar although from the front the black vs orange nose is a big difference.

steveaki13

24th February 2017, 18:47

Mclaren seems to have a very cluttered area around the barge boards and side pods.

I am amazed how shallow alot of the noses seem to be. Whether its due to shorter drivers not needing leg room or what, but they look deceptively tricky to hold legs :D

Ferrari's sidepods are very unusual. Will make clearing any debris out of the tricky.

Mercedes dont seem to have gone for a shark fin yet. I imagine things like this may change before the season.

Brown, Jon Brow

24th February 2017, 21:53

I'm sure I've seen that McLaren before:

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/markuswinkelhock_spyker_nurburgring_2007_q1.jpg

Tazio

25th February 2017, 02:38

I'm really ok with the Mclivery, I think they were going after this:
http://www.lawtonbrook.co.uk/assets/Uploads/IMGP2143-Medium.JPG (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjn-fmUkKrSAhVFRiYKHZB7C-8QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lawtonbrook.co.uk%2Fcurrent-stock%2Ffor-sale%2Fshow%2FMCLAREN-MP4-12C-GT3&psig=AFQjCNHvMNWnkA_95Mk93K2oIKa41evGGA&ust=1488073374714336) I just hope it's good for a podium. One can only hope ;)
Now the Merc looks tight and I'm pretty sure it will be the class of the field!

steveaki13

25th February 2017, 09:50

Are you giving us a thousand dollars again Taz if they fail to podium? :-)

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Tazio

25th February 2017, 10:40

1,000 USD? :stareup:

Owain

25th February 2017, 12:04

I like the orange on the new McLaren. I hope they keep it as a nod to their origins.

What's more important, though, is that it enables Alonso to compete. He's so badly wasted at the back of the field.

Tazio

25th February 2017, 21:41

Are you giving us a thousand again Taz if they fail to podium? :-)
Yeah babe, double or freakin' McNothing :angryfire

A FONDO

25th February 2017, 22:02

http://i.imgur.com/lHey2Qr.png

+

http://ferrari-view.4me.it/api/xcontents/resources/delivery/getThumbnail/ferrari/1240x717/d85be5c0-960c-4163-b0f8-1a93fb72f976?v=3

= Chaos 2017

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5h3K4IWUAEACS5.jpg

Tazio

26th February 2017, 05:22

Got these of the Williams out over the weekend

https://www.motor.es/formula-1/analisis-tecnico-williams-fw40-f1-2017-201734002.html

http://www.evo.co.uk/news/18871/new-williams-f1-car-reveals-first-answers-to-2017-rules-shake-up

Steve
http://uploadscdn.sportnetwork.net/upload/107/107_2_1488069168.jpg
Compared to previous iterations.....This one looks just fine, but only a midfield contender methinks! :angel:

Tazio

26th February 2017, 05:49

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5hiz9zWcAACHAt.jpg
The Haas looks very "industrial" in this pic. Let's just get the cars out there, and check out the testing. Speaking of which; I see that Merc has both pilots driving every day, at least for the first week. This leads me to believe that Merc is going to double the challengers lap counts, just like last year. This is some serious s#$t!!

steveaki13

26th February 2017, 17:53

Red Bull launched today

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/cpsprodpb/8EA3/production/_94851563_redbull.png

Not much to see from this photo really but here it is

steveaki13

26th February 2017, 18:00

Literally just came up on Twitter. That completes the line up I think.

Toro Rosso

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5m1fPQWYAEjBoH.jpg:large

Tazio

26th February 2017, 21:01

Red Bull launched today

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/480/cpsprodpb/8EA3/production/_94851563_redbull.png

Not much to see from this photo really but here it is

http://d2d0b2rxqzh1q5.cloudfront.net/sv/3.65/dir/965/image/9655083f78456f69cd9e4071be085cf1.jpg

In this close up it shows the nose has large duct, for .... driver cooling :confused:

Owain

26th February 2017, 21:09

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5hiz9zWcAACHAt.jpg
The Haas looks very "industrial" in this pic.

'Industrial' is the word! It looks like they got the paint cheap from a backstreet dealer.

Let's hope they go well though. They've done a great job so far ... much better the 2010 entry teams.

Tazio

26th February 2017, 21:30

Actually I don't think that their is a butt ugly livery out of the whole field
Toro Rosso looks good imo:

Also really starting to warm to trhe McLaren livery:
https://www.motorsportweek.com/admin/ckfinder/userfiles/images/Features/mcl32-side.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjj_aedz67SAhWIRCYKHZCCBcYQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsportweek.com%2Fnews%2F id%2F13888&psig=AFQjCNGhVxVM4ZHsWzx5erVtGJ6BvbkzTw&ust=1488227672951040)
http://pic.armedcats.net/s/sc/schumacherm/2017/02/26/1488128780968.png (http://www.armedcats.net/image/view/OcUE6mDJi2sdUJMP)

COD

26th February 2017, 22:23

steveaki13

26th February 2017, 22:56

steveaki13

26th February 2017, 22:58

That Toro Rosso looks awesome

Koz

27th February 2017, 07:12

https://i.redd.it/bggl58dkl8iy.jpg

Everything apart from Force India looks nice. The McLaren has grown on me, too.

STR, Renault and Sauber look absolutely magnificent.

Mark

27th February 2017, 07:13

The Merc is pretty boring for the only reason that it's the same livery it has always been. But yes, the rest are stunning.

big_sw2000

27th February 2017, 09:13

So the Ferrari has an extra wing on top of the shark fin.

Is that something similar on the Mercedes but without the shark fin. Im sure there is an extra wing in front of the rear spoiler in the above pic

Steve

Koz

27th February 2017, 09:31

Yes, that is a wing just like the Mercedes.

The link I posted has been taken down, but you can see it clearly in this video: https://streamable.com/s2lg8

Merc wing: https://cdn-7.motorsport.com/images/amp/Y9orWvZ0/s6/f1-mercedes-amg-f1-w08-launch-2017-mercedes-amg-f1-w08-detail.jpg

Something else interesting that I've found:

http://i.imgur.com/cvNMF8H.jpg

Koz

27th February 2017, 09:40

Anyone have an idea when Merc doesn't have the shark fin?

Also, what are the chances a shark fin will have adverse effects in a crosswind?

big_sw2000

27th February 2017, 10:02

And how quickly will Merc have a shark fin. Horrible looking things though

Steve

A FONDO

27th February 2017, 10:10

Mac looking much better on daylight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5nEWm0WAAE4Eba.jpg:orig

AndyL

27th February 2017, 10:13

https://i.redd.it/bggl58dkl8iy.jpg

Everything apart from Force India looks nice. The McLaren has grown on me, too.

STR, Renault and Sauber look absolutely magnificent.

Nice to see them all together. Best set of liveries for a long time I think. And they should all be easy to distinguish from one another at a distance.

Rollo

27th February 2017, 10:38

Easy to distinguish from one another at a distance.

Thank you especially to Toro Rosso and Red Bull on that :D

Next step.. BIG NUMBERS PLEASE :D

steveaki13

27th February 2017, 13:14

Anyone have an idea when Merc doesn't have the shark fin?

Also, what are the chances a shark fin will have adverse effects in a crosswind?
Don't really know why Merc don't have one but I bet after testing they either do have one or other teams find cross wind an issue and don't have theirs.

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Owain

27th February 2017, 14:00

Next step.. BIG NUMBERS PLEASE :D

Yes! At some point about 15-20 yrs ago, numbers on some cars became so small they might as well not bother with all.

What do you folks think about the policy of letting drivers keep a number for their career? I preferred it when the champ took the 1 and the teams were ranked in order.

Mark

27th February 2017, 19:22

Yes! At some point about 15-20 yrs ago, numbers on some cars became so small they might as well not bother with all.

What do you folks think about the policy of letting drivers keep a number for their career? I preferred it when the champ took the 1 and the teams were ranked in order.

I think it's a good idea. But the champion should be required to run No. 1. Hamilton running 44 as champ showed disrespect to the tradition of the No. 1 on the car.

Owain

27th February 2017, 21:53

I think it's a good idea. But the champion should be required to run No. 1. Hamilton running 44 as champ showed disrespect to the tradition of the No. 1 on the car.

Agreed, re. the no. 1.

I reckon he was just copying Valentino Rossi's insistence on having 46 stuck on his bike. No one I knew in Italy could understand that.

Koz

28th February 2017, 05:42

Williams, too, now have a fin wing.

CNR

28th February 2017, 05:50

http://d2d0b2rxqzh1q5.cloudfront.net/sv/3.65/dir/965/image/9655083f78456f69cd9e4071be085cf1.jpg

In this close up it shows the nose has large duct, for .... driver cooling :confused:
"You'll notice among all the complicated front wings on every car there is a rectangular box shape in the middle. This is because it is blanked out by the FIA rules to be an area you can't develop
redbull nose now changed
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12475/10783734/f1-testing-2017-red-bulls-innovative-pingu-nose-on-rb13-explained

CNR

28th February 2017, 05:54

http://www.espn.com.au/f1/story/_/id/18777633/best-looking-2017-f1-livery
looks like Toro Rosso is the clear winner

Koz

28th February 2017, 05:55

Don't really know why Merc don't have one but I bet after testing they either do have one or other teams find cross wind an issue and don't have theirs.

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Newey told Ted the fins stabilise the car in the corners and in a sidewind, like a weathervane effect. Nothing to do with getting better flow to the rear wing.

Koz

28th February 2017, 07:18

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5rj9hWXEAEHWh2.jpg

https://twitter.com/jordi_casale/status/836231346150387712

More pics here: http://imgur.com/a/qPBpq

AndyL

28th February 2017, 10:34

Don't really know why Merc don't have one but I bet after testing they either do have one or other teams find cross wind an issue and don't have theirs.

It took all of half a day, Mercedes ran a fin in the afternoon.

It was interesting hearing Adrian Newey talking about it on Sky last night, he described it as fairly crude device to help rear stability under braking and corner entry, akin to the tail fin of an aircraft, or the big fin behind the centre of gravity on a weather vane.
He also said the "nostril" on the front of the Red Bull is an effort to regain some of the benefit of a high nose while complying with the low-nose rules, and it complies with the rules in the same way the Force India nose holes did last year.

A FONDO

1st March 2017, 19:16

Haas's milky gray is stunning under direct sunlight

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/XPB_860993_HiRes.jpg

Tazio

2nd March 2017, 03:03

:stareup: Yeah Haas has got a very nice livery this year:

https://cdn-6.motorsport.com/images/mgl/6bK1bje0/s8/f1-haas-f1-team-vf-17-launch-2017-haas-f1-team-vf-17.jpg (https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjD3KqS37bSAhUFKyYKHWgnDRMQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.com%2Ff1%2Fphoto% 2Fmain-gallery%2Fhaas-f1-team-vf-17-11900616%2F%3F%26i%3D535%26id%3D11900616%26sz%3D8% 26s%3D-6&psig=AFQjCNGqYqnfJ6siPXNiV99W09HUvBwPaA&ust=1488507004078870)

airshifter

5th March 2017, 14:29

For the most part, some great looking cars this year. The wider rubber is a plus as well. Even the Force India bump can be overlooked if they remain quick.

I'm not at all a fan of the shark fins on any of the cars. Just funky if you ask me. But we will see who keeps them and who junks them... fast isn't always pretty.

The detail on that Mclaren front wing is amazing. At least Fred will know that the slow car looks fast!

The Black Knight

7th March 2017, 08:31

Really looking forward to the knew season start in just over two weeks time. The winter breaks don't seem as long and agonising as they used to be with the longer seasons continuing further on into the year.

The new cars look really fast. This week in particular is going to be very interesting to see what speeds they reach but I'd suspect there could be 2-3 seconds drop in lap time at least. Mercedes is bringing an entirely new aerodynamic package to the test.

At the moment, it looks as though Mercedes are still the team to beat. Hard to say about Ferrari where they are, they look fast but they looked fast last year as well. As for RBR, not much showing yet but they never top the times in preseason anyway. I doubt Renaults 0.3 seconds over the winter will be enough to close the gap to Mercedes overall but I'd suspect Mercedes, RBR and Ferrari will all be vying for race wins throughout the year based on what we've seen so far. Probably, when the gauntlet is laid down in Oz qualifying, it'll be between Mercedes and Ferrari but RBR close behind. But, much the same as last year, I'd suspect Ferrari will tailor off as the season progresses.

Rollo

12th March 2017, 07:48

Newey told Ted the fins stabilise the car in the corners and in a sidewind, like a weathervane effect. Nothing to do with getting better flow to the rear wing.

Porsche 956 had slab sides and two fins for precisely the same reason in 1982.

gm99

14th March 2017, 13:54

Not sure if this is an early April Fool's prank, but apparently Force India have a new sponsor and look for their 2017 campaign:

http://www.forceindiaf1.com/news/sahara-force-india-signs-partnership-agreement-bwt

Big Ben

14th March 2017, 14:26

The new Force India livery is just so adorable

Bagwan

14th March 2017, 14:42

It should stand out from the crowd on the grid , if that was the point , and I'd guess it was .
Pink helmets are to come as well , but I think the tutus on the driver suits are too much .

truefan72

14th March 2017, 16:21

I love the new Force India Livery. If anything, it will ensure its place in the pantheon of memorable and striking liveries.
Probably looks fantastic under the lights too.

The Black Knight

21st March 2017, 09:08

I think FI livery is genius. It's the only one I've paid any attention to anyway.

Mifune

23rd March 2017, 09:11

Hate Red Bull but loved last years look, glad they kept it.

Force India looks really good, when bold differentiation might make the difference exposure-wise fair play.

Tho I slightly miss the inevitable homophobic/misogynist tirade that would usually follow such a story on this forum.
But of course "those" users did their job well and scared off most casual users and now they too have fucked off in their turn. to presumably excrete their effluvia in Youtube comments and MRA forums.
Good job guys! We`ll miss you forever.