Rally Wrc Monte Carlo 2017

[wwbroe]

Should be live, even with the 10 mins delay, but Evans still not started

[tc10a]

Spectator problems, more delay

[RallyTyger]

some people just never learn

[wwbroe]

Spectators not in good places, and not listening, if they don't listen and change their positions, stage will not run at all

[dimviii]

can somebody find the live at this link?

https://www.facebook.com/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

Rally Paradise ‏@rallyparadise 5m
5 minutes ago


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#WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo SS9 (31,17 km) #LIVE Stream: https://www.facebook.com/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED*… by Optic'Rallye-Forez #WRClive #MonteCarlo17 #RAMC2017 #RMC17

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally 1m
1 minute ago


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Concerns about spectators in opening stage of Saturday. If you're in the stage please be safe and listen to the marshals

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2rXRhLW8AA3Hbo.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/225590097494105/videos/vb.225590097494105/1238949899491448/?type=3&theater

[A FONDO]

https://www.facebook.com/225590097494105/videos/1238960166157088/

he opens and closes from time to time. just stay on his main page (timeline) and wait for refresh

[tc10a]

Evans started - 21 Min. delay

[RallyTyger]

Looks like the stage started?

[dimviii]

Michèle Mouton
"The openers are not satisfied with the placement of the spectators and refuse the departure. "

[wwbroe]

Yes, Evans has started the stage

[dimviii]

stage is live

[satukata]

Facebook live?

[René]

Facebook live?

https://www.facebook.com/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/

[A FONDO]

lol Evans is so brave today

[dupanton]

Don't bother about the live, it's an awful boring place

[wwbroe]

First part of the stage is dry i suppose?

[N.O.T]

Don't bother about the live, it's an awful boring place

useless pro photographer material... why people bother waking up that early if they go to shit places ?

[tc10a]

Evans strong first split today. all others way down.

[dimviii]

are the splits for real?

[dimviii]

do we know at what tyres is Evans?

[N.O.T]

are the splits for real?

maybe evans went for super softs with no studs.

[tc10a]

Maybe here the dmack works on the tarmac in the beginning, probably will lose later on the ice.

[maciotacio]

Looks like Evans found his balls

[HaCo]

31km... long stage, many thing can happen.

[HaCo]

No 2nd split for evans?

[tc10a]

All that counts is the time in the finish, we will see which choice was the right one.

[A FONDO]

All that counts is the time in the finish, we will see which choice was the right one.

The finish of the whole loop actually.

[HaCo]

No 2nd split for evans?

Now there is, still pushing!

[tc10a]

So Evans according to DMACK with 4 studs and 2 supersoft

[Rallyper]

Evans first on the stage. Seems to make some difference?

[Rallyper]

Evans first on the stage. Seems to make some difference? Where else he found the speed?

[HaCo]

Armin Kremer is complaining about Factory team and driver involvement in WRC2, There is only 1 solution: Skoda has to build a WRC :D

[HaCo]

Evans first on the stage. Seems to make some difference? Where else he found the speed?

Ogier was first in the stage for 2 days...

His DMACK tires could also make the difference.

[N.O.T]

Lets see if sordo will try and catch Latvala.

[Vahula]

Evens good on tarmac, thats the first tarmac of Monte :D

[tc10a]

Neuville very good 2nd split

[N.O.T]

Crazy 2nd split by neuville...

[dimviii]

wish at stage stop somebody inform us of what tyres combo used each driver.

[N.O.T]

Sordo 20 sec slower... 10 seconds slower than Breen...

[HaCo]

That doesn't look so good: http://ewrc-results.com/quickp/35143_mc17-andolfi.jpg

[tc10a]

very probably 4 studs for all of them

[raybak]

Long time since I have seen Ford 1,2,3 at third split.

[N.O.T]

That doesn't look so good: http://ewrc-results.com/quickp/35143_mc17-andolfi.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AK55PX5UY4

at 55.00

[raybak]

Neuville just spoiled it:(

[HaCo]

Ogier taking back time from Neuville on third split.

[maciotacio]

Ogier's not giving up.
Bad, really bad rally for Sordo. Pace wise is nowhere to his teammate. At least he should bring some points for manufactures.

[HaCo]

Ott not so fast...

[HaCo]

Latvala not fast, killed his studs at the start he says.

[N.O.T]

(10 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): I think I made a mistake here. I pushed too hard in the beginning on the dry Tarmac and I killed the studs before the ice.

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[HaCo]

Neuville 2,6 faster!

[HaCo]

Also Meeke very far behind in the splits...

[maciotacio]

Wise driving by Ott, fighting with Ogier and Neuville could have easily ended quickly for him.
Meeke and Lefebvre is slower than Old ladys driver :D

[wwbroe]

Great performance by Neuville, Ogier and also Evans

[Augury]

Both C3-s well off the pace.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2riOI2WIAASFDe.jpg


according to DMACK ss10 is dry

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 2m
2 minutes ago


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A great stage from Elfyn, proving for first time this weekend we’ve made big progress on asphalt. SS10 is mainly dry so fingers crossed...

[HaCo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2riOI2WIAASFDe.jpg


according to DMACK ss10 is dry

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 2m
2 minutes ago


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A great stage from Elfyn, proving for first time this weekend we’ve made big progress on asphalt. SS10 is mainly dry so fingers crossed...

Since there is JH on the tire this must be Juho Hanninen's car. Wonder how much that piece costs, great for collectors :P

[René]

Front right puncture for Lefebvre

[HaCo]

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A great stage from Elfyn, proving for first time this weekend we’ve made big progress on asphalt. SS10 is mainly dry so fingers crossed...

Also great time by Breen!

[wwbroe]

Evans on his way in stage 10

[dimviii]

Tidemand

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2rjq4sWEAEmKbJ.jpg


Pontus Tidemand ‏@PontusTidemand 16s
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SS9: Picked up a puncture 10km before the finish. Decided not to stop.

[dimviii]

Also great time by Breen!

yeap,while he lost about 10 sec till 1st split,after that he was on par with Evans

[HaCo]

Evans starting strong again.

[satukata]

evans get turbo today!

[dimviii]

dry stage and Sordo on par with Evans at 2nd split

[HaCo]

dry stage and Sordo on par with Evans at 2nd split

He is just too unconfident in the snow.

[wwbroe]

Evans put some great time in there again

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC 50s
51 seconds ago


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SS10 "Really disappointed, not going well this morning and I don't know what's wrong. I though I was doing a good stage. I'm not happy" #WRC

[HaCo]

This is crazy...
https://twitter.com/wrchd/status/822723969673527296/photo/1

Andolfi

[HaCo]

Ogier +14!!!

[dimviii]

Neuville -5,2 at 2nd split from Ogier

[EightGear]

Where are all the people slagging Evans now?

[maciotacio]

Meeke has stopped ...

[René]

Meeke again stopped

[HaCo]

Meeke has stopped ...

Incredible :(

I really like the guy, is he so unlucky?

[dimviii]

DMACKS win a stage.

[HaCo]

Neuville took 13 secs from Ogier, what a run!

Fastest time for Ford anyway!

[Francis44]

Where are all the people slagging Evans now?

It seems the tyres got better overnight.

[dimviii]

meeke again stopped

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[EstWRC]

Go dmack! Tänak again having downshifting problems

[EightGear]

It seems the tyres got better overnight.
So now suddenly it are the tyres?

Totally different conditions today compared to yesterday.

[Francis44]

It seems Ogier is not yet able to be faster so he is waiting it out to see if Neuville keeps it together. Anyway good pace from Neuville so far.

[dimviii]

Ott Tänak ‏@OttTanak 10s
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SS10: "We still have some gear shift issues. Like yesterday, struggling with the downshifts."

[Morte66]

Where are all the people slagging Evans now?

I have only been following rally for about a year, but if there's one thing I have learned it's: ignore people on forums who think 20 minutes is the whole season.

[OnlyRally]

Nice to see that a Dmack driver can have a advantage in some conditions in monte, sounds good for the future!

[dimviii]

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Sat 09:44 - SS10: Neuville
Our rally leader completes 1sec slower than stage winner Evans. He's on a crossed slick/stud mix. "I had some understeer near the start so I had to slow the rhythm." Neuville's overall lead is now 1m.00.7s from Ogier.

Sat 09:41 - SS10: Ogier
A diagonal cross-tyre choice for the champ. "It was okay but I was quite cautious in the icy sections. Its okay, not so bad."



Stéphane Lefebvre ‏@SLefebvreRallye 2m
2 minutes ago

Steering issues on this one, it was very difficult to drive. #WRC

[René]

Citroen boys, they lives a Calvary on this rally .....

[dimviii]

Craig Breen
1 min ·
SS10 16.78km / “We had no ice notes for the last 5km, we kept losing phone signal before the start.“

[wwbroe]

That is an understatement

[René]

When you start with the bad fate, that will follow you all the week end. Murphy law

[wwbroe]

That is an understatement, i mean Citroen

[A FONDO]

Now the rally is over I think. See you in the power stage.

[dimviii]

so starting first on the road isn't so hard as Ogier was moaning.

[wwbroe]

He is allways moaning about something...

[dimviii]

Meeke retired from mechanical problem? is that confirmed? and what problem was?

[satukata]

Hope Tanak can fight with Ogier.

[Morte66]

Bouffier edged out Mikkelsen for a stage. Is that first time Mikkelsen hasn't won the stage in WRC2?

[René]

Rally ended definitively for Meeke. No Rally 2 opportunity for Sunday on Rallye Monte-Carlo

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 39s
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#WRC #RAMC2017 SS10
@krismeeke is stopped in the stage with a mechanical issue. @SLefebvreRallye had trouble with power steering

[maciotacio]

Meeke retired from mechanical problem? is that confirmed? and what problem was?

Lefebvre retirement was also caused by mechanical problem... :laugh:

[rp]

No. He broke the clutch after went off the road...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT0gGRa3s4

[tomhlord]

Perfect analogy, thank you :)

[bluuford]

Sunday forecast has changed, just a slight precipitation is excpected now, some light son on top and light rain below 1 km line.

[bluuford]

No. He broke the clutch after went off the road...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT0gGRa3s4
You know, theoretically, when you loose a wheel (it gets stuck behind some rocks or mountain edge), it is basically also technical problem;)

[tc10a]

Meeke moving again

[N.O.T]

Terrible home rally for Citroen, Meeke should get his stuff together, we do not need another Latvala.

Hopefully we do not see that Joke lefebre in any kind of car again.

They should break the contract and sign Mikkelsen NOW !!!!

[René]

Meeke move again??

[N.O.T]

do we have any ifo on this Astier guy ? Is he the same as the Olympic pentathlete ? He lost 2 mins on stage 9 yet he still leads by 5 !!! LOL

he has a nice onboard on his youtube page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPDEWoEGa0

[tc10a]

do we have any ifo on this Astier guy ? Is he the same as the Olympic pentathlete ? He lost 2 mins on stage 9 yet he still leads by 5 !!! LOL

he has a nice onboard on his youtube page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPDEWoEGa0

http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=24148&t=Raphael-Astier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fastest time for @ElfynEvans through SS10! That means that each Ford Fiesta WRC has secured a stage win this weekend! #WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo https://t.co/UehVCeQ50b

[kraut]

do we have any ifo on this Astier guy ? Is he the same as the Olympic pentathlete ? He lost 2 mins on stage 9 yet he still leads by 5

He is celebrating his 26th birthday tomorrow. On Rallye du Var he had a WRC-Fiesta and has been in the Top10 before he finished the rallye caused by 'personal' reasons.

Before he drove BMW Z3 and a Porsche 993 GT3 mainly on regional rallies. I definitely see some potential.

[dimviii]

Neuville small clip
https://twitter.com/fcalispa/media

[mousti]

do we have any ifo on this Astier guy ? Is he the same as the Olympic pentathlete ? He lost 2 mins on stage 9 yet he still leads by 5 !!! LOL

he has a nice onboard on his youtube page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmPDEWoEGa0
Tomorrow he gets 26 years old

[dimviii]

Sat 10:15 - SS10: Meeke completes
He gets his C3 to the stage finish with the loss of more than 24min. The Brit doesn't give away any details of what went wrong. "We had a problem and had to stop and do some repairs," he says before setting off for service.

[Eli]

Reliability issues in the Citroën... That's not a good sign...

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

[Francis44]

Reliability issues in the Citroën... That's not a good sign...

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Both cars were already off and Meeke did crash heavily so not so suprising something did break.

[René]

Reliability issues in the Citroën... That's not a good sign...

Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk

First rally of the year, new car, new regulations, Monte Carlo frosted, nothing to worry about at this time of the season.

[RS]

Armin Kremer is complaining about Factory team and driver involvement in WRC2, There is only 1 solution: Skoda has to build a WRC :D

Sunninen wasn't a factory driver and he was on a par.

[OnlyRally]

very good for Meeke to get that car moving again, the time loss doesn't really matter anyways after his off yesterday.

[tc10a]

The overall time differences in WRC2 are crazy. rally is over.

But I have to agree to Kremer. WRC2 was meant as a championship for privateers and teams. This year it will even get worse for real privateers if next to Skoda also M-Sport is stepping up with Camili and Suninens WRC2 campaign.

I would even go further and would not allow P1 drivers from the last some x years to enter in WRC2 like Mikkelsen this time. They can enter a R5 car, but not in WRC2.

[tc10a]

So most of the delay will be cut by the regrouping and we will just have slightly delay for the live stage. Probably 6 Minutes

[wwbroe]

I think stage 11 will start at 11h29

[wwbroe]

At least that is what it says on WRC+

[tc10a]

Evans timecard shows 11:19 as planned start time for SS11

[RS]

The overall time differences in WRC2 are crazy. rally is over.

But I have to agree to Kremer. WRC2 was meant as a championship for privateers and teams. This year it will even get worse for real privateers if next to Skoda also M-Sport is stepping up with Camili and Suninens WRC2 campaign.

I would even go further and would not allow P1 drivers from the last some x years to enter in WRC2 like Mikkelsen this time. They can enter a R5 car, but not in WRC2.

I understand the argument, but if you take the works Skodas/Fords out the equation there is not much left.

It should be good comparison for the privateer guys.. if they can match the works drivers (like Sunninen did) then they know they are worthy of promotion to WRC.

[RS]

So most of the delay will be cut by the regrouping and we will just have slightly delay for the live stage. Probably 6 Minutes

I hope so.. when there are only three live stages we don't want another one compromised.

[Morte66]

So this is what happens after a big off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCdu5Gxf-FM

[wwbroe]

Evans timecard shows 11:19 as planned start time for SS11

That should be right, i miscalculated for 10 mins.:D

[AdvEvo]

The R5 factory cars are not the same customers buy.

It has the best parts and best engines in it.

I have had a special factory Engine once i was racing karting. It was increadable. It had all the best parts in it. And was legit but it was an engine with the least tollerances it gave just that little extra to be champion.

Such engines they keep for factory drivers for sure.

[EstWRC]

M-sport midday report http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/midday-quotes-2017-rallye-monte-carlo-section-four

[tc10a]

Evans started the stage - 11:19
So six minutes delay left

[wwbroe]

Almost same split for Evans as this morning

[RS]

The R5 factory cars are not the same customers buy.

It has the best parts and best engines in it.

I have had a special factory Engine once i was racing karting. It was increadable. It had all the best parts in it. And was legit but it was an engine with the least tollerances it gave just that little extra to be champion.

Such engines they keep for factory drivers for sure.

I am sure there is an element of that (mostly software?) but they can't afford to offer the customers too inferior a product as they also have to compete against the other manufacturers, and R5s are meant to be primarily customer cars.

[René]

live stage 11

https://www.facebook.com/Notre-Passion-Le-Sport-M%C3%A9canique-1465618237001357/videos/?ref=page_internal

[dimviii]

ss10/12

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2rgBUIXUAIKVjN.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2rgBwhXUAAesc2.jpg

[dimviii]

Sat 11:27 - Tanak update
The Estonian's car got a new gearbox in service. He reported downshifting issues this morning.

Sat 11:26 - Meeke update
His technical problem on SS10 was related to the ignition switch.

[tc10a]

already quite a loss for tänak in first split

[Mise]

Sat 11:27 - Tanak update
The Estonian's car got a new gearbox in service. He reported downshifting issues this morning.

Sat 11:26 - Meeke update
His technical problem on SS10 was related to the ignition switch.

11,5 secs behind on first split

[N.O.T]

Evans 30 seconds faster on split 2 than this morning.

[wwbroe]

Ogier not moving???

[Bartek]

Let's hope it's just problem with a GPS

[tc10a]

GPS glitch

[wwbroe]

Nothing reported on wrr, so just gps problem i suppose?

[dimviii]

Ogier again without splits?

[car]

live stage 11

https://www.facebook.com/Notre-Passion-Le-Sport-M%C3%A9canique-1465618237001357/videos/?ref=page_internal

Link not working... do you have any more please?

[wwbroe]

Moving now, the dot just replaced itself:D

[Bartek]

I must say that TV live coverage was very good compare to last year but splits and gps looks terrible right now...

[jparker]

On the readio, No studed tyres at all for Ford (winter tyres + 2 super soft). The rest all with studs. That may explain Evans times.

[trifonvl]

M Sport: 4 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport SS5 Sordo: 4 studded + 1 non studded Neuville: 4 studded + 2 non studded

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 2m
#Tyre info:
Toyota: 4 studded + 2 non studded
M Sport: 4 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport SS5
Sordo: 4 studded + 1 non studded
Neuville: 4 studded + 2 non studded
: Meeke/Breen: 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4L/R1 studded + 1 non studded
Lefebvre: 4 studded + 2 non studded

[Bartek]

M-Sport strategy looks very agressive

[satukata]

facebooklive?

[N.O.T]

Evans 1 min faster than this morning at the end, looks like most of the ice has gone.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2sEWKbUsAIg-bI.jpg

[MikeD]

Citroën looks like they are paying a big price in 2017 with their very mediocre driver line-up. "Krash" Meeke is back and Lefebvre and Breen haven't proven anything in their WRC-car runs so far. Matton really played the Ogier car really bad and they are paying the price now. It looks like it's gonna be a title fight between Neuville and Ogier for 2017.

[N.O.T]

Citroën looks like they are paying a big price in 2017 with their very mediocre driver line-up. "Krash" Meeke is back and Lefebvre and Breen haven't proven anything in their WRC-car runs so far. Matton really played the Ogier car really bad and they are paying the price now. It looks like it's gonna be a title fight between Neuville and Ogier for 2017.

lol... ok kid.

[Dug83]

M-Sport strategy looks very agressive

They've got a 1:40 to 4th place so nothing to loose.

[car]

Citroën looks like they are paying a big price in 2017 with their very mediocre driver line-up. "Krash" Meeke is back and Lefebvre and Breen haven't proven anything in their WRC-car runs so far. Matton really played the Ogier car really bad and they are paying the price now. It looks like it's gonna be a title fight between Neuville and Ogier for 2017.

Are you serious about Breen?

[dimviii]

Filter:


Sat 11:45 - SS11: Evans
Studded DMACK tyres all round for the Welshman. "It was okay but the tyres were moving a lot more, especially at the beginning. Higher temperatures I think. I might have pushed them over the limit." His stage time: 23m13.1s

[GravelBen]

Citroën looks like they are paying a big price in 2017 with their very mediocre driver line-up. "Krash" Meeke is back and Lefebvre and Breen haven't proven anything in their WRC-car runs so far. Matton really played the Ogier car really bad and they are paying the price now. It looks like it's gonna be a title fight between Neuville and Ogier for 2017.

Oh yes, because the whole season is decided halfway through the first rally isn't it. :rolleyes:

[Bartek]

They've got a 1:40 to 4th place so nothing to loose.

In Monte 1:40 is nothing in my opinion, one wrong tyre choice and they are behind JML

[N.O.T]

Ignore the norwegians... they are having major butthurt issues until Mikkelsen secures a drive... LOL fun times.

[mousti]

The overall time differences in WRC2 are crazy. rally is over.

But I have to agree to Kremer. WRC2 was meant as a championship for privateers and teams. This year it will even get worse for real privateers if next to Skoda also M-Sport is stepping up with Camili and Suninens WRC2 campaign.

I would even go further and would not allow P1 drivers from the last some x years to enter in WRC2 like Mikkelsen this time. They can enter a R5 car, but not in WRC2.

ERC and TER is maybe better then for them..

[tc10a]

nice stage of latvala

[Bartek]

Ignore the norwegians... they are having major butthurt issues until Mikkelsen secures a drive... LOL fun times.

To be honest they have right, maybe he is not a world champion but for sure he is way better than actual Citroen line-up.

[car]

How can splits for Ogier be missing for two days? WRC not chance transponder of fix issue overnight?

[danon]

Where are all the people slagging Evans now?

Here I am!

[jparker]

Funny argument with Ogier about studs or not studs

[Mise]

Here I am!

Well, start slagging then :)

[N.O.T]

To be honest they have right, maybe he is not a world champion but for sure he is way better than actual Citroen line-up.

yes but it was VW fault not citroens, if those useless cheaters announced their plans beforehand then i am sure mikkelsen would be in a proper team.

The only people the norwegians should be angry with are the finish village team of nobodies favouring Latvala because of the manager.

[MikeD]

Oh yes, because the whole season is decided halfway through the first rally isn't it. :rolleyes:

It is when you are up against the likes of Ogier and Loeb. Then mistakes like Meeke's isn't an option.

[EstWRC]

Tänak still with shifting problems and power steering also now. Oh god

[Mintexmemory]

How can splits for Ogier be missing for two days? WRC not chance transponder of fix issue overnight?

Clearly the transponder is rendered useless when placed in the charisma field of the Champ (or e h just turns it off!)

[dimviii]

Filter:


Sat 11:53 - SS11: Tanak
Worries for the Estonian: "We have a very sick car, we have to go. It is changing gear all the time by itself. Power steering too

[N.O.T]

The driving part of the rally is over, now only the conditions and mistakes can change the result.

[dimviii]

Thierry Neuville ‏@thierryneuville
SS11 "I try to be smooth. Had mud on the windscreen towards the end and was not seeing well but in any case, the target is to control" #WRC

[EstWRC]

There is service after ss12?

[Dug83]

Live stage on red bull tv

https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GQNEN1W11/fia-world-rally-championship

[electroliquid]

There is service after ss12?

Yes

[EstWRC]

Ok then they have to find the problem for Tänak. Luckily he has a big advantage over latvala

[A FONDO]

There is service after ss12?

yes, 30 mins. live text in wrc.com is quite useful.

[dimviii]

Lefebvre same pace as Mikkelsen

while Mikkelsen is taking it easy...

Sat 12:06 - SS11: WRC 2 Mikkelsen
"Cautious again. I have a big gap now and I want the win. I have to keep safe and stay concentrated."

[GravelBen]

Lefebvre same pace as Mikkelsen

If I heard right (was only half listening) he actually apologised for being cautious and not taking any risks, made me laugh.

[N.O.T]

lefebre slower than Mikkelsen....

waste of space.

[denkimi]

Lefebvre same pace as Mikkelsen

I find it hard to understand how he can be so slow. is there something wrong with his car that i don't know about or what?

[N.O.T]

They have wilson kid in the commentary box.... lol... what for ?

[Lead]

If I heard right (was only half listening) he actually apologised for being cautious and not taking any risks, made me laugh.
Mikkelsen: Sorry for my Sunday driving.

[N.O.T]

Evans started the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yes, no Desborough on Red Bull TV comms !!! :D

[car]

Evans looks rapid as hell through the dry corners... the grip levels of the new cars way higher

[dimviii]

I find it hard to understand how he can be so slow. is there something wrong with his car that i don't know about or what?

for sure something is not right AND with car. You can see it from Meekes times.
If you are not confident you cant push at these type of roads.Just see Evans yesterday.

[N.O.T]

the onboard cameras are still crap... useless garbage dogs.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

RB TV even letting us hear the onboards and the cars starting off. :)

[Mise]

They have wilson kid in the commentary box.... lol... what for ?

He should know much more about the sport since he spend so much more time on the stages :)

[N.O.T]

the new cars are really fast on the open sections !!! impressive !!!

[Francis44]

The Yaris much slower from start than the Fiesta.

[car]

Got a feeling Breen could be Citroen's lead driver before the year end.

[N.O.T]

Srodos car moves a lot...

[steve.mandzij]

Terrible home rally for Citroen, Meeke should get his stuff together, we do not need another Latvala.

Hopefully we do not see that Joke lefebre in any kind of car again.

They should break the contract and sign Mikkelsen NOW !!!!
Are you some self proclaimed expert?

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[N.O.T]

Are you some self proclaimed expert?

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Of course not kid, I am an expert.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All losing time to Evans later in the stage so far.

[Mintexmemory]

Are you some self proclaimed expert?

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You must be new around here so I'll just say that like any village there has been be an idiot!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak's fixed his car issues.

[dimviii]

Latvalas yaris was moving a lot.
but 2017 cars are lighting fast at asphalt.

[N.O.T]

Mistake by Ogier once more... but no consequences.

[EstWRC]

Tanak's fixed his car issues.

M-sport mechanics useless dogs :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans is going to win again ! :)

[steve.mandzij]

Could anyone tell me what Latvala said at the end? Chromecast cut off right as he finished.

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[N.O.T]

Could anyone tell me what Latvala said at the end? Chromecast cut off right as he finished.

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you are new here kid, relax and enjoy the ride.... it never ends.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Could anyone tell me what Latvala said at the end? Chromecast cut off right as he finished.

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Happier but pushed a bit too hard.

[Bartek]

Evans is going to win again ! :)

Wow, Dmack made a great job during winter

[MartijnS]

I like the broadcast so far. Nice stage too.

[BigWorm]

Lefebvre sliding all over this. Not very good

[USER47]

Why did even Citroen picked Lefebvre over Breen for 2017 car? As far as I remember, last season showed that Breen is faster and more consistent that Lefebvre...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SAT 12:34 - SS12: TANAK
Third quickest - and that must be a relief for Tanak fans after he reported gearbox and steering issues on the previous stage. "We managed to fix them between the stages and this one was a lot easier to drive."

[Francis44]

The C3 all over the place.

[car]

Meeke delay again?

[N.O.T]

Very nice handling car the C3... nice.

[dimviii]

Why did even Citroen picked Lefebvre over Breen for 2017 car? As far as I remember, last season showed that Breen is faster and more consistent that Lefebvre...

Lefebvre for Monte and Breen for Sweden at 2017 cars. Each one with one rally with 2017 car,till they have 3cars for all driver line up.

[Dug83]

Why did even Citroen picked Lefebvre over Breen for 2017 car? As far as I remember, last season showed that Breen is faster and more consistent that Lefebvre...

Breen is in it for Sweden.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke just using this as a test. Needs to get more kms.

[car]

Very nice handling car the C3... nice.

Meeke's time doesn't indicate that. I think it looks a bit laboured compared to the nimbleness of the yaris and fiesta.

[tomhlord]

Meeke's time doesn't indicate that. I think it looks a bit laboured compared to the nimbleness of the yaris and fiesta.

I tend to agree. Let's hope the car is more competitive on gravel/snow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Now I think its safe to say M-Sport's 2017 Fiesta is a decent car. :)

Another stage win for @ElfynEvans and another one-two for the Ford Fiesta WRC with @SebOgier posting the second fastest time on SS12! #WRC https://t.co/iOinLTfldX

[steve.mandzij]

Meeke's time doesn't indicate that. I think it looks a bit laboured compared to the nimbleness of the yaris and fiesta.
To be fair the Yaris looks really sloppy and sideways, although that may just be Latvala. Definitely not complaining about it though

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[N.O.T]

I really hope CItroen drop that potato bag lefebre and bring in mikkelsen for the rest of the season.

[tomhlord]

Evans, well done, boyo.

[EightGear]

So first everyone said the C3 looked great on tarmac and now its bad?

[dimviii]

big fiasco for citroen this Monte.Breen with 2016 car faster at almost all stages.

[N.O.T]

So first everyone said the C3 looked great on tarmac and now its bad?

just the village basic kids.

[BigWorm]

What is the state of the next stage? Same as the first run on thursday?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good job Red Bull TV... better with their own comms.

[dimviii]

So first everyone said the C3 looked great on tarmac and now its bad?

yes at tests was very fast,but rally is a different game.
Nobody said though that's a bad car.

[N.O.T]

What is the state of the next stage? Same as the first run on thursday?

I think the stage will be fully dry, unless it snowed yesterday.

[SubaruNorway]

Luckily we didn't get another spectator accident on live TV, close for Lefebvre at the end there

[dimviii]

Luckily we didn't get another spectator accident on live TV, close for Lefebvre at the end there

I missed that,is there any chance we watch it again ?

[macebig]

Absolute disappointment for the Citroen team.They are nowhere at this time.Slower than all the other 17 cars and even slower than their own DS3 which had minimal development for nearly 2 years.And on top of that, a handful of reliability issues.Sit down and work, French guys.See what you can fix for Sweden.

[dimviii]

most reliable 2017 car till now the Hyundai.Dont remember any problem till now.

[N.O.T]

Absolute disappointment for the Citroen team.They are nowhere at this time.Slower than all the other 17 cars and even slower than their own DS3 which had minimal development for nearly 2 years.And on top of that, a handful of reliability issues.Sit down and work, French guys.See what you can fix for Sweden.

nothing wrong with the car.

Lefebre is a tomato can

Meeke is just meeke doing stupid things and now he just does not push.

At this point citroen must find a formula to bring in Mikkelsen and then decide if they keep Meeke or Breen as No2

[Rally Hokkaido]

Good job Red Bull TV... better with their own comms.

Agreed. It was refreshing to hear three guys who know their subject well, especially Matt Wilson. Even the fugitive from the ladyboy sport was informative - just needs to stop saying `lap` when he means `pass`!

[steve.mandzij]

Agreed. It was refreshing to hear three guys who know their subject well, especially Matt Wilson. Even the fugitive from the ladyboy sport was informative - just needs to stop saying `lap` when he means `pass`!
I quite like the trio. Chen as the commentator, Matt as the rallying informant and Mark who can give a better perspective on the team aspect than Matt.

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[SubaruNorway]

I missed that,is there any chance we watch it again ?

Shouldn't be too long until replay is up on both sites, there was a cut in a left hander and people on the bank on the outside he touched slightly

[danon]

Evans, well done, boyo.

https://s5.postimg.org/u5cuykp3b/IMG_0573.jpg

[steve.mandzij]

Wow, Serderidis is really bad.

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[wwbroe]

Wow, Serderidis is really bad.

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That is nothing really new:D

[jparker]

Absolute disappointment for the Citroen team.They are nowhere at this time.Slower than all the other 17 cars and even slower than their own DS3 which had minimal development for nearly 2 years.And on top of that, a handful of reliability issues.Sit down and work, French guys.See what you can fix for Sweden.

Meeke was not slow at the beginning. Now they don't run fast because there is no point doing it. They have different agenda now.

[SubaruNorway]

I missed that,is there any chance we watch it again ?

Only a replay since it was commercial break, it's at 51:50

https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84GQNEN1W11/segment/AP-1Q7764JS91W11/fia-world-rally-championship

[EightGear]

Something incredible has happened guys.

On WRC+ Ogier's onboard has a pretty good camera point behind the driver on which you can also see his hands. Its the 'FX' camera position.

[SubaruNorway]

Something incredible has happened guys.

On WRC+ Ogier's onboard has a pretty good camera point behind the driver on which you can also see his hands. Its the 'FX' camera position.

Not very good though, way too high and far back