Rally Wrc Monte Carlo 2017

[EightGear]

Not very good though, way too high and far back
Yes true, but at least better than usual. Saying that, probably everything will be shit again in Sweden.

[WRC17]

nothing wrong with the car.

Lefebre is a tomato can

Meeke is just meeke doing stupid things and now he just does not push.

At this point citroen must find a formula to bring in Mikkelsen and then decide if they keep Meeke or Breen as No2


Meeke could be champion if he repeats his Finland performance on most of the gravel events this year.

[dimviii]

Ott Tänak ‏@OttTanak 3m
3 minutes ago


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Final stage of the day soon. Over a long time, it’s tarmac stage – good to drive fast for a change. #RallyeMonteCarlo #RAMC2017

[Barreis]

Meeke could be champion if he repeats his Finland performance on most of the gravel events this year.

in what universe could it be?!

[René]

About Citroen and other team. The truth of January is not necessarily that of February. And even less that of the end of the championship. Do not forget, it is only the first event. And very special event, where the luck, has a significant share in the Result. The final judgments of professionals Devins, can soon become the jokes of the year. ;)

[wwbroe]

In five minutes start of last stage of the day, normally completely dry stage, any info on tyres?

[René]

Compare Mikkelsen with Lefebvre is just stupid. Andreas, has 78 departures in the WRC 10 years of experience. Stéphane 25 departures on 3 years. It should be to remain serious.

[EstWRC]

In five minutes start of last stage of the day, normally completely dry stage, any info on tyres?

#tyre info: MSport/Neuville/Hanninen 4 Michelin Pilot Sport S5 + 1SS5
Citroën/Latvala/Sordo: 5S5
#rallyemontecarlo

[KKS]

#tyre info: MSport/Neuville/Hanninen 4 Michelin Pilot Sport S5 + 1SS5
Citroën/Latvala/Sordo: 5S5
#rallyemontecarlo
full dry stage?

[dupanton]

Last stage was the first stage of the rally where there were 10 WRC cars in the top-10

[KKS]

any FB live links or so?

[BigWorm]

full dry stage?

That's what it's expected. Proper tarmac

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CCXJFkbwac

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans on it again.

[RS]

The live footage of SS12 was good.. I would like them to improve the sound balance though so that we hear more engine sound and pacenotes and less commentators.. including when they cut to the chopper.

This is how Eurosport did it back in the IRC days and it really added to the atmosphere / drama.

[danon]

others off it again...

[KKS]

Sordo finnaly finds himself.... fastest so far on splits

[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 7m
7 minutes ago


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The temperatures are up and SS13 is dry, we’ve got 4 soft S6+ and 1 extra soft XS6+ spare in @ElfynEvans car

[wwbroe]

Great day for Evans, would be in top 3

[Fast Eddie WRC]

others off it again...

What cruising already ??

[KKS]

Oh... Sordo loses a time.... +37.9 @3rd

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo finnaly finds himself.... fastest so far on splits

Not now ! :D

[BigWorm]

Sordo must have had a spin or something, +40s in latest

[KKS]

Not now ! :D
agrrr! Some "tree outside" issue :(

[KKS]

Disaster!!!! Nueville stoped!

[tc10a]

Neuville stopped!

[tc10a]

Hänninen stopped too

[USER47]

I see Hanninen moving on the tracker...

[WRC17]

it might be a glitch

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Can be great rally for M-Sport now.

[wwbroe]

That is absolutely true

[BigWorm]

Neuville split is almost 2 hours

[EightGear]

Neuville... oh my.

Suspension problems.

[BigWorm]

Oh noo...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier fastest.

[Livewireshock]

With not Rally2 for tomorrows stages, it has big implications

[dimviii]

Dani Sordo ‏@DaniSordo 40s
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Power steering gone. It went in a corner - flat out in sixth - I went straight off, unbelievable. Very lucky that nothing bad happened!

[Eric]

Damn iiiiit. Feel so sorry for Neuville

[wwbroe]

Neuville moving again?

[steve.mandzij]

Fuuuuuck!
At least Latvala did well. He was really far behind Ogier on the splits but finished less than a second from him... Perhaps the Yaris is showing its weakness.

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[macebig]

Puncture for Neuville.Looks like Wilson has that in the bag.

[Frostmourne]

Give me luck and I will be rally driver!!

Unlucky Neuville!!!

[dimviii]

Sat 15:28 - SS13: Neuville update
Passed by Lefebvre. Rear-left suspension damage. Thierry and his co-driver Nicholas are working on the car.

[BigWorm]

Devastating

[Eli]

Can't believe it... Heartbreaking...

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[EstWRC]

what a drama....and Toyota now third with Latvala :)

[dimviii]

Sat 15:21 - SS13: Evans
Only Ogier is quicker on the splits. Evans showing the best form of his WRC career. "This is some stage. The time doesn't really matter at this point in the game, but when you get this car on dry tarmac - boy-oh-boy. This is what it's all about."

[steve.mandzij]

What an emotional rollercoaster! M-Sport on the verge of their first win in years, but in the most bittersweet of conditions. Truly devastated.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Innocent puncture or mistake by Neuville causing it and damage... wait to see.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/public/style_emoticons/default/horstrajectoire2007.gif

[KKS]

Still not move for Nueville :( too many time for puncture

[dimviii]

Sat 15:32 - SS13: Ogier
The new rally leader is in. "Let's see but I'm sorry for Thierry - he was doing such a good job, with fabulous speed so far. We got some luck this weekend, some small mistake in here too, I touched a bank again, but nothing special."

[dupanton]

Sooooo gutted for Neuville :( Such a good rally and probably 0 points...

[dimviii]

Still not move for Nueville :( too many time for puncture

its not just puncture,hasrear suspension damage

[BigWorm]

I can now relate to how Tänak fans felt after Poland last year

[KKS]

Elfyn wins another one! What a drive!

[electroliquid]

Forecast for tomorrow stages?

[dimviii]

Neuville over the limit
https://youtu.be/1YzV_HcZ9d4

[dimviii]

TGR_WRC ‏@TGR_WRC 3m
3 minutes ago


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SS13 #11 @JuhoWRC had a puncture already at second or third corner of the stage and stopped to change the tyre #WRC #YarisWRC

[JAM]

Sat 15:32 - SS13: Ogier
The new rally leader is in. "Let's see but I'm sorry for Thierry - he was doing such a good job, with fabulous speed so far. We got some luck this weekend, some small mistake in here too, I touched a bank again, but nothing special."

At least recognizes his luck.

This guy has always the luck behind him. He is good, the better, but also very lucky

WRC 17 to Ogier and Ford. Here we go again, only changes de manufacturer

[Oliverk]

I can now relate to how Tänak fans felt after Poland last year
No you don't ;). Go walk 3 km to finish line in a pouring rain and then hear the news from radio. That was a terrible feeling.

[EstWRC]

well we dont know if it was Thierry's faul or not

[BigWorm]

No you don't ;). Go walk 3 km to finish line in a pouring rain and then hear the news from radio. That was a terrible feeling.

Close enough. ;) Losing a rally near the end is not a nice feeling that's for sure

[Franky]

At least recognizes his luck.

This guy has always the luck behind him. He is good, the better, but also very lucky

WRC 17 to Ogier and Ford. Here we go again, only changes de manufacturer

There's still a long way to go

[Barreis]

tomorrow Breen/Sordo and Bouffier/Tidemand fight

[Sulland]

Testing is one thing, driving in full anger in WRC is something completely different. The new cars need a few rallies to get reliable.

Ogier is lucky in his "offers" to damage the car this time as well. Should think he is a good driver......:p

[GeoFerg_Sco]

Breen doing a great job and Toyota could have a podium on the first rally of the season.

[wwbroe]

well we dont know if it was Thierry's faul or not
I guess you don't get this kind of problem just driving?Must have hit something i think.

[EstWRC]

Driver of the day is Evans...3 stage wins and what a job dmack has done

[wwbroe]

Driver of the day is Evans...3 stage wins and what a job dmack has done

That is for sure,great job

[macebig]

There's still a long way to go

Yeah, too early.Citroen will get its act together, Toyota doesn't look so far behind and the Hyundai looks pretty fast.Ford will have to maintain development and iron out any reliability issues like the downshifting problem for Tanak.

[WRC17]

Whats the weather forecast for tomorrows stages?

[BigWorm]

I guess you don't get this kind of problem just driving?Must have hit something i think.

Most likely. But I guess a mechanical part can get too strained to the point where it gives up. Either by rash driving or bad construction. But in a rally like Monte rash driving isn't really common.

Since it's the rear suspension I would place my bet on he slid wide and touched something.

[wwbroe]

Thierry moving again?

[KKS]

Neuville moving... but +35 min is guarantee

[Eric]

Thierry moving again?

Yes

[dimviii]

Sat 15:52 - SS13: Neuville
Moving again. He seems to have made a temporary repair

[Mariusz]

Yep, WRC radio confirms.

[EstWRC]

at least he is moving

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallye_automobile_de_monte_carlo_2017/hus_dsc_5802-m.jpg

[danon]

another one down... a few more left for Evans to win it

[KKS]

at least he is moving
it's only for "manual" Rally2. With that time difference it's does'nt matter where it was be

[denkimi]

it's only for "manual" Rally2. With that time difference it's does'nt matter where it was be

if he can make it to service, he can try to get some power stage points tomorrow.

[cosmin_sb]

neuville finish the stage..he will try to obtain some points on power stage and some points for team

[dimviii]

at least he can win some power stage points.

[stefanvv]

Whats the weather forecast for tomorrows stages?

Light rain was last info I think.

[EstWRC]

went wide in a slow corner and hit something

[EightGear]

Will Neuville and all other WRC rally 2 re-starters still be scoring manufacturers points? Neuville is still 7th of the manufacturer entries.

[stefanvv]

Will Neuville and all other WRC rally 2 re-starters still be scoring manufacturers points? Neuville is still 7th of the manufacturer entries.

If they haven't changed something, yes.

[cosmin_sb]

[QUOTE=EightGear;1122470]Will Neuville and all other WRC rally 2 re-starters still be scoring manufacturers points? Neuville is still 7th of the manufacturer entries.[/QUOTE
yes, they will be able to score point

[EightGear]

Thanks, that's good news.

[dimviii]

The Belgian succeeds in nursing his damaged car to the finish. He's lost 32 minutes. The i20 is crabbing sideways, and the right-rear wheel is out of alignment, but otherwise the car looks okay. "It happened in quite a slow left-hand corner. On the exit, on the throttle, the rear went wide and I hit something. I don't know what. I have to go now..." says Thierry.

[dupanton]

Will Neuville and all other WRC rally 2 re-starters still be scoring manufacturers points? Neuville is still 7th of the manufacturer entries.

Yes, why not?
Does Evans takes points away from the other manufacturers? Only 2 out of the 3 cars can score points. Evans is now 5th but will not score points for Ford as it stands now. Will Lefebvre get the points for 5th of 6th?

[Rallyper]

So gutted for the bad luck Thierry had today. Just been away from PC for one hour and this happens! Had Neuville 1 st on Pickems as well :(

Exciting day tomorrow. Let´s see if Evans can push like today. Can´t understand where the boy got the speed so suddenly?

[wwbroe]

Yes, why not?
Does Evans takes points away from the other manufacturers? Only 2 out of the 3 cars can score points. Evans is now 5th but will not score points for Ford as it stands now. Will Lefebvre get the points for 5th of 6th?

I think Evans is sixt for the moment;)

[WRC17]

any snow on turini for tomorrow?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2tBqyCXEAAiDeH.jpg

[stefanvv]

I think Evans is sixt for the moment;)

Yeah, but Breen is not manufacturer entry.

[wwbroe]

Any photo's from Neuville's car?

[dupanton]

I think Evans is sixt for the moment;)

I meant in the manufacturers classification, Breen is not in there.

[wwbroe]

i meant in the manufacturers classification, breen is not in there.

ok:D

[wwbroe]

Any information if Neuville made it to service? Will they be able to repair the damage? Is this last service a flexi-service? Will Neuville get extra penalty for arriving late?

[wwbroe]

I see it is not flex service, he will get penalties for being late.

[wwbroe]

What is the maximum time limit for arriving at a time control?

[Morte66]

Can I ask a newbie question... Imagine a WRC1 driver (say Sordo for example) were to complete the rally without dropping out of any stage, but they get several punctures and are greatly delayed. Say they finish 10th overall behind some WRC2 cars, but 7th of the WRC1 entries because some other WRC1 cars dropped out (like Paddon). Do they get WRC points for 7th place or for 10th place?

[dimviii]

amazing passes flat out
https://youtu.be/LYOCps81Pt0

yaris on limiter! shorter final drive?

[wwbroe]

Can I ask a newbie question... Imagine a WRC1 driver (say Sordo for example) were to complete the rally without dropping out of any stage, but they get several punctures and are greatly delayed. Say they finish 10th overall behind some WRC2 cars, but 7th of the WRC1 entries because some other WRC1 cars dropped out (like Paddon). Do they get WRC points for 7th place or for 10th place?

They will get WRC points for drivers championship for10thplace,but manufacturer's points for7th.

[BigWorm]

Can I ask a newbie question... Imagine a WRC1 driver (say Sordo for example) were to complete the rally without dropping out of any stage, but they get several punctures and are greatly delayed. Say they finish 10th overall behind some WRC2 cars, but 7th of the WRC1 entries because some other WRC1 cars dropped out (like Paddon). Do they get WRC points for 7th place or for 10th place?
He'll will get the manufactuters points for the 7th place in that scenario. WRC2 guys will get the drivers points, but not for the manufacturers.

[mousti]

Any information if Neuville made it to service? Will they be able to repair the damage? Is this last service a flexi-service? Will Neuville get extra penalty for arriving late?

He made it.

[dimviii]

very nice video again from Riviera rally
https://youtu.be/2NsYZt32_2g

[Ucci]

Dumas finnaly fastest in 2WD class....this MC is definetely not suited for 911....

[dimviii]

Meeke ss 10 problems
https://youtu.be/N6_jqZ6zMsA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Neuville hit the rear and damaged his car suspension... how does this make him unlucky and Ogier lucky ?

I have little sympathy for Neuville, like there was none for Meeke yesterday.

Ogier has been quick and not hurt his car so deserves the lead.

[dimviii]

So Neuville hit the rear and damaged his car suspension... how does this make him unlucky and Ogier lucky ?

I have little sympathy for Neuville, like there was none for Meeke yesterday.

Ogier has been quick and not hurt his car so deserves the lead.

Ogier we have seen 2 times that could have been abandon,the one at live stage plenty of meters out of road.Not even a puncture.
Admited himself that was lucky.


Breen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okK_iN_f834

[Rallyper]

So Neuville hit the rear and damaged his car suspension... how does this make him unlucky and Ogier lucky ?

I have little sympathy for Neuville, like there was none for Meeke yesterday.

Ogier has been quick and not hurt his car so deserves the lead.

Hopwever Ogier has been off road as well, though without any damage. I think that´s what he meant.

[dimviii]

Thierry NEUVILLE
1 min*·*
In SS13, I did a mistake and went a bit wide in a corner. It was a lot of gravel in there and we hit something and broke the suspension of our*#Hyundai*#i20WRC. I feel really sorry for the*Hyundai Motorsport*team who did an amazing job this weekend. We will keep in mind the positive points including the good performance of the car and our pace level. Let's see now what we can do tomorrow in the Power Stage

[A FONDO]

Ogier we have seen 2 times that could have been abandon,the one at live stage plenty of meters out of road.Not even a puncture.
Admited himself that was lucky.

http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/7dd51c84ed371c6cfd3720a8cfa6dd54.jpg

[rage82]

Thierry left the service 5 min ago

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[A FONDO]

TN from CZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOmKz8Yh3A

WRM DAY 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQFsPQ0Qi8w

[Francis44]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOmKz8Yh3A&feature=youtu.be

Neuville problems today.

[dimviii]

Neuville trying to fix
https://youtu.be/FyOmKz8Yh3A

[dimviii]

http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/7dd51c84ed371c6cfd3720a8cfa6dd54.jpg


http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-1812-0-56597600-1485017313.jpg

[steve.mandzij]

So Neuville hit the rear and damaged his car suspension... how does this make him unlucky and Ogier lucky ?

I have little sympathy for Neuville, like there was none for Meeke yesterday.

Ogier has been quick and not hurt his car so deserves the lead.
Wow, salty.

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[dimviii]

Automobile Club MC ‏@ACM_Media 4m
4 minutes ago


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To remember the power stage's record belongs to @AMikkelsenRally in 14'09''2

[A FONDO]

lolowrc on snow but his microphone is very poor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-ViB-UTOv0

[A FONDO]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-1812-0-56597600-1485017313.jpg

https://twitter.com/SebOgier/status/822838834937401344

[J_n_z]

So Neuville hit the rear and damaged his car suspension... how does this make him unlucky and Ogier lucky ?

I have little sympathy for Neuville, like there was none for Meeke yesterday.

Ogier has been quick and not hurt his car so deserves the lead.

I haven't seen Neuvilles crash, but Ogiers exit on ss3 could have easily finished his rally with a rock on the right place, so he can be classified as lucky.

[A FONDO]

I haven't seen Neuvilles crash, but Ogiers exit on ss3 could have easily finished his rally with a rock on the right place, so he can be classified as lucky.

http://hostthenpost.org/uploads/7dd51c84ed371c6cfd3720a8cfa6dd54.jpg

[tc10a]

Problems for Meeke?
On Tracking Map seems parking for quite a while now an the roadsideon the roadsection down to Monaco.

[tc10a]

https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16179188_10210311659221599_2779556718106985822_o.j pg?oh=10b909ee24aa03835b87c75fc17a80da&oe=59048E12

[Bartek]

Unbelivable rally for Citroen, everything is going wrong for them.

Meeke was hitted by a spectator just 10k from GAP.

[dimviii]

seems like suspension collapse? wtf?

[René]

A nightmare for Citroen

[danon]

It wouldn't look so If Ogier was behind the wheel of the C3.

[SubaruNorway]

I haven't seen Neuvilles crash, but Ogiers exit on ss3 could have easily finished his rally with a rock on the right place, so he can be classified as lucky.

Little moment at 21min on ss7 for Ogier as well

[wwbroe]

Neuville got a 40 sec penalty for being 4 mins late in service. He must have done some great time on the liaison with that crabby car. He dropped one place overall, just behind Hanninen and 9th in constructor classification. Maybe he can take some points on power stage and could overhaul also Hanninen for constructor points.

[dimviii]

Tor Andre Børresen ‏@TorAndreBorrese 5m
5 minutes ago


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Meeke hit by a spectator leaving Gap, rally over...



confirmed

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 30s
31 seconds ago


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BREAKING
@krismeeke has to retire from #RAMC2017, hit by another car on the road section to Monaco

[Andre Oliveira]

eWRC-results video by Anthony Delahayes of today: https://youtu.be/vcJBonBrv6U

[wwbroe]

Tor Andre Børresen ‏@TorAndreBorrese 5m
5 minutes ago


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Meeke hit by a spectator leaving Gap, rally over...



confirmed

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 30s
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BREAKING
@krismeeke has to retire from #RAMC2017, hit by another car on the road section to Monaco

It has not really been Meeke's rally

[BigWorm]

Proper absurd that

[SubaruNorway]

Neuville got a 40 sec penalty for being 4 mins late in service. He must have done some great time on the liaison with that crabby car. He dropped one place overall, just behind Hanninen and 9th in constructor classification. Maybe he can take some points on power stage and could overhaul also Hanninen for constructor points.

Neuville is 7th in constructors

[Simmi]

Unreal rally for Meeke. Think he'll be on the beers tonight!



Unrelated. Had a chuckle when I initially shot this today and then realised the significance of it.

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16237856_10154147253052190_818486462_n.jpg?oh=2d12 91938b65467cbd1a85a067a9bcee&oe=58855914

[wwbroe]

Neuville is 7th in constructors

I counted Breen,but i think he is 8th in constructor's?

[René]

It has not really been Meeke's rally

Definitively

[N.O.T]

Its not ogiers fault that those dogs cannot keep it together and do stupid mistakes... Great rally for him and now a lot of pressure to his main rivals for the rest of the season.

[René]

Random is always an important part in the result of the Monte Carlo Rally

[kure91]

I counted Breen,but i think he is 8th in constructor's?

On ewrc-results he is 8th because he has his penalty counted to total time, anywhere else it appears that his penalty isn´t added to time. But I would agree with you about that 8th place.

[SubaruNorway]

I counted Breen,but i think he is 8th in constructor's?

You can't score points with a 16' car

[wwbroe]

You can't score points with a 16' car

You are right;)

[SubaruNorway]

Unreal rally for Meeke. Think he'll be on the beers tonight!



Unrelated. Had a chuckle when I initially shot this today and then realised the significance of it.

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16237856_10154147253052190_818486462_n.jpg?oh=2d12 91938b65467cbd1a85a067a9bcee&oe=58855914

Maybe people would have more respect for those signs if they weren't at every 50m even on safe places.

[Roy]

On ewrc-results he is 8th because he has his penalty counted to total time, anywhere else it appears that his penalty isn´t added to time. But I would agree with you about that 8th place.

https://m.rally-base.com/2017/rallye-monte-carlo-2017/?ssId=3878&cupId=102
Here is Neuville 8th. But Evans don't count for manu point's because both are M-sport drivers are still there. Neuville is 7th for manufacturing points.

[wwbroe]

https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/vb.304943716370639/608564489341892/?type=2&theater

This is video with the place where Neuville would have broken the suspension, not really his fault in my opinion, really bad luck.

[dimviii]

at 1,52 when Neuville touched something some centimeters from road.Not a big mistake,unlucky.

https://youtu.be/XCULALAIFtE

[J_n_z]

Its not ogiers fault that those dogs cannot keep it together and do stupid mistakes... Great rally for him and now a lot of pressure to his main rivals for the rest of the season.

As I have already said, he could have been out after his ss3 mistake, so a lucky dog or what?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

'In SS13, I did a mistake & went a bit wide in a corner. It was a lot of gravel in there, we hit something & broke the suspension of our car.'

Not a puncture, not unlucky, a mistake.

Ogier - Funny how the worlds best are always lucky. ;)

[Rallyper]

TN did even go off. Just slightly slided 10-15 cm off the tarmac as it seen on vid. He takes it like a man, though. And NOT can call him anything. Still He´d be the hero of RMC 2017.

[dimviii]

this concrete block touched Neuville.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-575-0-44070100-1485022925.jpg

[janvanvurpa]

So gutted for the bad luck Thierry had today. Just been away from PC for one hour and this happens! Had Neuville 1 st on Pickems as well :(

Exciting day tomorrow. Let´s see if Evans can push like today. Can´t understand where the boy got the speed so suddenly?

That'll teach you to be away! Pat Attention!
Me I've been asleep all but maybe 4 hours out of last 24.
Just got out of hospital after operation so I have an excuse..
Ha!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke... now that's what I call unlucky.

[dimviii]

here we see how out of road was Neuville. Concrete is almost ON the road.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-575-0-75269000-1485023199.jpg

[tc10a]

Some video from Meekes road crash aftermath:
https://www.facebook.com/matteo.pela/videos/10154065107932273/

unclear what really happened

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ttzjIXEAA9Es4?format=jpg&name=large

[danon]

Lessons learned by Citroen, Meek and Lefebvre...
https://s5.postimg.org/59jfb32fb/what_goes_down_must_come_up_graphic.jpg

[Bartek]

Mekke C3's had a crash with DS3. From photo it looks like a pretty heavy touch from DS3.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2tvmDTXgAEOC9u.jpg:large

[spiderem]

Some video from Meekes road crash aftermath:
https://www.facebook.com/matteo.pela/videos/10154065107932273/

unclear what really happened

Ahaha did he crash into a DS3?
But the way the wheel if off, and the very little damages on the spectator car (as is seems), the situation looks very unclear indeed...

[spiderem]

so the only potential fight tomorrow is Sordo chasing Breen?

[focus206]

wow, gutted for Neuville...
so far 1-2 Ford M-Sport and horrible rally for Citroen, we were so used with the opposite few years back :D

[denkimi]

so the only potential fight tomorrow is Sordo chasing Breen?

neuville and hanninen also.

[JUF]

Can someone please confirm that the driver of the DS3 wasn´t Yves Matton who was angry about Meeke´s and Lefebvre´s performance :D?

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/uRDWe6_SGVA

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The others needed to take advantage of Ogier's time loss after his off into the ditch yesterday. He usually only makes two mistakes a year...

And he will only get stronger with more testing time in the new car.

Neuville had a 51 sec lead and needed to manage it.

[hari]

Some images Wednesday - Saturday:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_wc_rallye_monte_carlo_2017.html


http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/4.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/3.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/2.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/9.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/18.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/17.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/20.jpg
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/21.jpg

[A FONDO]

e-Rally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmGVEs1D1I
Pablo 46 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEA-I3c0BuY

[dupanton]

For those who have WRC+, I strongly recommend Ogier on SS7. Really crazy onboard, crazy stage and full attack.

[dimviii]

e-Rally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjmGVEs1D1I


wow very lucky at 3,38 Hanninen! big violent bump ,several meters into the ditch without problem.

[Allyc85]

Stunning day with great action and massive crowds!! Sordo was fantastic on stage 10 with big slides!

Tanak in stage 10

https://twitter.com/alastaircummins/status/822810317298290688

Latvala on 12

https://twitter.com/alastaircummins/status/822817424215076865

Now a 1.30am start for us to get to stages 14 and 16. We must be crazy!

[danon]

That'll teach you to be away! Pat Attention!
Me I've been asleep all but maybe 4 hours out of last 24.
Just got out of hospital after operation so I have an excuse..
Ha!

How did the surgery go?
I hope it's nothing serious.
Get well soon, boy ;)

[dimviii]

wow very lucky at 3,38 Hanninen! big violent bump ,several meters into the ditch without problem.

edit he picked a puncture after that.

[dimviii]

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/24/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2017_JU_019_372442_58809e31e.jp g
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/28/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2017_RM_053_372866_58831979a.jp g
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/23/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2017_RM_006_372395_58809dc39.jp g
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/23/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2017_RM_003_372393_58809dc36.jp g
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/37/26/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2017_105_372670_588314e68.jpg

[Myrvold]

lefebre slower than Mikkelsen....

waste of space.

You are just a butthurt Norwegian :rolleyes:

[EightGear]

For those who have WRC+, I strongly recommend Ogier on SS7. Really crazy onboard, crazy stage and full attack.

21:01.... 90 degrees sideways at 120 kp/h....

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/5883bfa544589/5883bfa53a777-ogierdwars.png

[jparker]

The way things are going, Latvala may win that one. BTW, Latvala is 1st in my pickems ;)

[Morte66]

Some images Wednesday - Saturday:
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos/2017/monte/2/21.jpg

What happened to Dumas to put all that tape on his car? Anyone know?

[dimviii]

amazing photo!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uE_49XUAAfYuQ.jpg

[seb_sh]

Looks like he hit that metal pole, not the concrete near the road.

[tc10a]

What happened to Dumas to put all that tape on his car? Anyone know?

Went off in SS2 in the night

[jparker]

Judging by Neuville first split, he was still pushing. Probably he shouldn't have done so, I don't know.

[jparker]

Looks like he hit that metal pole, not the concrete near the road.

Does it matter .....

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/Et98mGXLQik

[danon]

amazing photo!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uE_49XUAAfYuQ.jpg

https://s5.postimg.org/z6oudolxj/image.jpg

[dimviii]

Looks like he hit that metal pole, not the concrete near the road.

Maybe hit the pole too,but doubt if a pole can extract the tyre out of rim,this is concrete job imho

[Rally Power]

Real sad for Neuville. MC it’s probably the hardest rally on WRC; one got to have outstanding mental strength, and Ogier’s luck, to win it. Hope tomorrow the Belgium can take PS max points.
On the bright side there was Evans stage wins and Latvala’s excellent times (fingers crossed for a podium!).
Btw, I’m amazed with the forum idiot reaction to Toyota’s fine performance: it takes some nerve to still call Makinen’s team the finish village idiots. What a moron!

[wwbroe]

On a series of photo's on french forum rallye-forum you can clearly see that it is the cocrete that is the cause of the tire going of the rim and breaking the suspension.

[stefanvv]

TN from CZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyOmKz8Yh3A

The suspension doesn't look too badly damaged, perhaps he could only change the tyre and make it to the service?!?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uBKAZXUAAQkMO.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uBK-fWQAAlgyx.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uBLqCWIAEE2ce.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uBMbSWgAEMkLk.jpg

[dimviii]

The suspension doesn't look too badly damaged, perhaps he could only change the tyre and make it to the service?!?

it was damaged unfortunately.

[Rally Power]

On Kremer’s disappointment over WRC2 privateers small chances: a sort of WRC2 Trophy (or a AM category like in LM GTE) could be created, but support championships like WRC2 must be open to manu’s team. That’s the way to attract more brands into WRC and it’s been common practise since almost ever (Gr.A in Gr.B days, F2/Kit Cars in Gr.A/WRC era and even the last JWRC years).

[dimviii]

ss10
https://youtu.be/BiLtO0k7WXg

[denkimi]

The suspension doesn't look too badly damaged, perhaps he could only change the tyre and make it to the service?!?
look at 0:55 or 1:02. its a rear wheel, it's supposed to be rock solid in place. he snapped the suspension arm.

[A FONDO]

chrono https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkjjfDa8NO4

[danon]

21:01.... 90 degrees sideways at 120 kp/h....

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/5883bfa544589/5883bfa53a777-ogierdwars.png

strange for you... business as usual for others

you can do it with you daily drive if have balls big enough... unlike Evans

https://s5.postimg.org/5g1prx0xz/You_don_t_need_a_supercar_to_have_fun.jpg

[car]

Redbull coverage is spot on.
Evans looks very at home in the fiesta, now he's away from the snow.

[danon]

yaris wrc monte-carlo 2017 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xQzJ28XdPc&sns=fb

[danon]

We are on the top three after 13 special stages! Four more to go tomorrow. Let's enjoy this sunny rally day once more.

https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/308644232871102/

http://toyotagazooracing.com/pages/contents/en/assets/images/release/2017/wrc/0121-01/wrc_0121_01.jpg

[bluuford]

So, forecast says that Ss14 and 16 will be wet and light or moderate rain can be expected. Tempetrature between +2..+4

SS15 and Ss16 should be so that rain until elevation 1100 meters and after that there should be mostly snow. Looks like 2-3 cm by first pass and 3-4 cm for the second pass. Rain/snow should start around 5 AM, arriving from the south. temeparture at the bottom of the mountain is +2..+3 and up there should be a few degrees minus. So, who wants to win powerstage, must take some risks. I assume that Evans tyres are not working in this conditions, Meeke is out, so, Powerstage will be 1. Neuville, 2. Ogier, 3. Latvala, 4.Tänak, 5. Hänninen
;)

[steve.mandzij]

So, forecast says that Ss14 and 16 will be wet and light or moderate rain can be expected. Tempetrature between +2..+4

SS15 and Ss16 should be so that rain until elevation 1100 meters and after that there should be mostly snow. Looks like 2-3 cm by first pass and 3-4 cm for the second pass. Rain/snow should start around 5 AM, arriving from the south. temeparture at the bottom of the mountain is +2..+3 and up there should be a few degrees minus. So, who wants to win powerstage, must take some risks. I assume that Evans tyres are not working in this conditions, Meeke is out, so, Powerstage will be 1. Neuville, 2. Ogier, 3. Latvala, 4.Tänak, 5. Hänninen
;)
Yes! I love me some snow and ice. Honestly, I feel this Monte Carlo rally has been one of the most interesting and exciting events in recent years, up there with Argentina last year.

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[danon]

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142289_1829223664019675_6735553384402619754_n.jp g?oh=9c29a37e4d0e45d6095ea731a6648918&oe=58D68DA2
https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16195908_1829223764019665_5444023859201776079_n.jp g?oh=ddbb366ed8a5ccf2bcaf15cbd935f2c4&oe=5911BF05
https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16174482_1829223574019684_1663145752807145696_n.jp g?oh=1233f2aac305308dc455e69514d28cc1&oe=590FE717
https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16143150_1829003457375029_1834016796107753448_n.jp g?oh=19cd44b09e2dc38d5a0653dec3f24a62&oe=59166FA8
https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114408_1828738930734815_8014718656323533546_n.jp g?oh=7dc048a6add539d6d0fe8a4a37858484&oe=592445ED

[danon]

Juho Hänninen close call - https://www.facebook.com/DefiendeLosRallyesvivelo/videos/575635122622548/

[Francis44]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQgxqj22GB0

Awesome video from Passats de Canto, including a mistake by Ogier he did not mention

[dimviii]

best looking car imho

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-1150-0-30329900-1485035419.jpg

[N.O.T]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQgxqj22GB0

Awesome video from Passats de Canto, including a mistake by Ogier he did not mention

there is nothing awesome in a car going 40kph on ice where sliding a bit wide and ruin everything is a matter of luck not skill...

you are everything that is wrong in this world kid if you consider these things awesome

[N.O.T]

Prrrrrrrrprrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrprrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr prrrrrrrrrrrrrprrrrrr

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgyjk9WtjL8&feature=youtu.be

[Francis44]

there is nothing awesome in a car going 40kph on ice where sliding a bit wide and ruin everything is a matter of luck not skill...

you are everything that is wrong in this world kid if you consider these things awesome

There were also a few fast sections on the video, I just thought it was interesting to see some slower snowy sections.

Anyway thanks for the opinion.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/XKmV6ZGf5UM

[dimviii]

Sordo lucky after exit the road with high speed
https://twitter.com/fernischumi/media

[BigWorm]

What is that rod that Neuville hit?

[dimviii]

Citroen and Toyota never managed higher than 3rd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uLBEDUoAAxSOH.jpg

[dimviii]

What is that rod that Neuville hit?

its a rod that they use to measure the height of snow

[tc10a]

its a rod that they use to measure the height of snow

The rod is a sign for the snow plough when cleaning the road.
But the rod did not do the damage. They break easily when hit.

The damage was done by the small beton barrier on the ground (small bridge).
The rod was there to mark it.

https://s5.postimg.org/z6oudolxj/image.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uBK-fWQAAlgyx.jpg

[Doon]

The village team of Toyota are doing better than the legendary Citroen. Sick dogs M-Sport with Wilson just trying to make cash seem to be doing OK too ;)

[Morte66]

best looking car imho

Best looking serious rally car, I think. IMHO the RGT cars are miles ahead for looks (but miles behind for rallying, still it's nice to mix in 3 or 4).

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://youtu.be/PGAi20lVlnU

[stefanvv]

Sordo
https://youtu.be/PGAi20lVlnU

Zero understeer indeed.

[stefanvv]

21:01.... 90 degrees sideways at 120 kp/h....

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/5883bfa544589/5883bfa53a777-ogierdwars.png

Unlike ss3 the handbrake worked for him this time, the corner itself was at 80km/h though, the wheelspin climbed it to 120ish.

Monstrous drive from him on this stage

[danon]

Citroen and Toyota never managed higher than 3rd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uLBEDUoAAxSOH.jpg

I can think of a World Rally Champion with 1 win only...

https://s5.postimg.org/zaintxrev/Capt.jpg

[BigWorm]

The rod is a sign for the snow plough when cleaning the road.
But the rod did not do the damage. They break easily when hit.

The damage was done by the small beton barrier on the ground (small bridge).
The rod was there to mark it.

https://s5.postimg.org/z6oudolxj/image.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2uBK-fWQAAlgyx.jpg

How silly, not a very Monte-like mistake since it was on a dry stage and he was on slicks. Might as well happen in Corsica.

[SubaruNorway]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQgxqj22GB0

Awesome video from Passats de Canto, including a mistake by Ogier he did not mention

I don't see any mistakes worth mentioning?

[GravelBen]

I can think of a World Rally Champion with 1 win only...

https://s5.postimg.org/zaintxrev/Capt.jpg

Ah, but he won the best rally! ;)

[steve.mandzij]

there is nothing awesome in a car going 40kph on ice where sliding a bit wide and ruin everything is a matter of luck not skill...

you are everything that is wrong in this world kid if you consider these things awesome
What a harsh, shitty comment you made. Uncalled for.

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[GravelBen]

I don't see any mistakes worth mentioning?

He hits a bank at 4:40, maybe he meant that one. If Meeke had done the same thing there probably would have been a big rock in the snow.

[stefanvv]

He hits a bank at 4:40, maybe he meant that one. If Meeke had done the same thing there probably would have been a big rock in the snow.

No, the bank he mentioned was on ss13 after Neuville's crash, there was a black ice on left corner, the car slid and bumped a little on a bank. On this video there is nothing like that, just small excursion on a small ditch I believe.

[GravelBen]

Evans has had some impressive pace but I guess we've seen the same thing from him in the past too - extremely fast one day, extremely slow another and he never seems to know why. If he can figure out the key to the fast days and do that consistently he could be a real contender.

[SubaruNorway]

there is nothing awesome in a car going 40kph on ice where sliding a bit wide and ruin everything is a matter of luck not skill...

you are everything that is wrong in this world kid if you consider these things awesome

For once i have to slightly agree, it's a bit strange when you could be faster with a standard STI or EVO on softer stock studded tyres.
This year i guess you could have got away with running the old short studded tyre like this, ruins the tarmac a bit though. Not sure what they did with the brakes back then as 16" won't fit over tarmac brakes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh4lxd896jY

[GravelBen]

No, the bank he mentioned was on ss13 after Neuville's crash, there was a black ice on left corner, the car slid and bumped a little on a bank. On this video there is nothing like that, just small excursion on a small ditch I believe.

I meant the mistake Francis44 mentioned, not the one Ogier mentioned. Was a bit ambiguous.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2vJg2bWQAMqY2Y?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2vJg2aXEAEjJh1?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Press conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5sJWyEOMR8

Tänak and Ogier seem to get along very good, so far :p

[bowler]

thoughts to end of Saturday:

Impressive debut for Toyota. All of those doom seekers proved wrong.
Monte Carlo is indeed different to all the other events, but first time out of the box is very very good.

Great results so far for Ford also. Ogier and Tanak going well.

Hyundai obviously have the pace, and may well be the best car.

Citroen: not as good as expected.

Neuville not as good mentally as the World Champion, making little mistakes when there was no need to push given the cushion he had.

Ogier is the world champion. New car, new team, and doing well.

Still another day to go.

Remembering that Monte Carlo is a very different event.

[janvanvurpa]

The village team of Toyota are doing better than the legendary Citroen. Sick dogs M-Sport with Wilson just trying to make cash seem to be doing OK too ;)

Maybe what Finnish village teams can do is big surprise for Greek village idiot living in England in basement..

Not sayin' any names, though...


Likewise what the outdated Ford which was soooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong, very odd results..
So much for ex-spurts.

[bowler]

Jan,
expert:
an ex is something that was, and a spert is a drip under pressure

[the sniper]

Jan,
expert:
an ex is something that was, and a spert is a drip under pressure

I don't think his spelling was an unintentional mistake!

[EstWRC]

morning guys!

David Evans ‏@davidevansrally 24m24 minutes ago
More
Four super softs and two winters for everybody. At the moment weather expected to be stable until last stage.

[wwbroe]

Good morning guys, ready for last day of an exciting rally.;)

[Rallyper]

Yeah, and good morning to you all guys! Sitting at the nuclear plant and calm operation at 100% power. Ogier to win and Neuville gets his 5 points on PS.

[KKS]

Good morning.
Shame for Citroen :( Rally to forget for they.
And they must put Lefebvre to 2016 car until they have three 2017 spec cars

[wwbroe]

Stage 14 is live now, Neuville on the stage

[KKS]

tyres for today:

Neuville/MSport: 4 Michelin Pilot Sport SS + 2 Michelin Pilot AlpinLefebvre: 4 Michelin Pilot Sport S + 2 Michelin Pilot Alpin #wrc (https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrc?src=hash)
Breen/Sordo: 2 Pilot Sport S + 2 Pilot Sport SS + 2 Pilot Alpin (PA)Latvala: 4 SS + 2 Pilot Alpin studdHanninen: 2SS + 4 PA

stages seems to be dry

[Rallyper]

Evans stopped?

Edit: WRC+ lacking signal.

[KKS]

Another good time for Evans.

[dimviii]

Good morning mates!

Bone dry, according to the zero car driver.

[bluuford]

Good morning mates!

Bone dry, according to the zero car driver.

rain snow delayed