Rally Australia 2016

[AL14]

wtf? lol

Sat 10:06 - SS13: Latvala
A great fastest time from Jari-Matti. He is 7.8sec quicker than Ogier and buzzing with confidence. "That was my comeback. I have been lost for six months but this stage gave me back what I have wanted for a long time. I'm being brave, I'm not afraid of anything. No left-foot braking - just flat out." Wow.

yeah, pretty pathetic

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala is back after 6 months and Ostberg's best stage since Sardinia !

[dimviii]

After 1,5 day,Ogier is close to leader.Last day has 60 stage kms,so he will go for it..There we will see how brave is Latvala.
I ll go for sleep.Tomorrow morning with coffee will see what happened at 2nd loop.

See ya.

[EstWRC]

see ya dimviii

[AL14]

me too I'll go to bed gnight dimviii and everyone :)

[EstWRC]

luckily im working this night :)

[bluuford]

Same here, work needs to be done, but I have to sleep a bit also :)

[Mk2 RS2000]

Nice afternoon here following the rally whilst stewarding a local motorsport event.

[KKS]

Temperature rise now up to 28 C deg, so Ott's Dmack could struggle more, especially on Nambucca stage.
After 1st day I hope that he can fight for a stage wins, but seems not today.

[EstWRC]

he will struggle a lot in the afternoon stages. no stage wins from this rally for sure...really stupid mistakes yesterday from him with that spin and police, without them he would be 4th

[KKS]

but good first split from Ott, just +0.4 behind Latvala

[EstWRC]

damn Tänak, why are you pushing and not listening these forum guys here :D

[EstWRC]

he should have listened, +6 in second split, Paddon struggling too

[KKS]

and Sordo too drops time

[EstWRC]

Paddon took back in the end, just 7 secs slower than Ogier, he was 11 secs in 4th split

[EstWRC]

Latvala's tyres totally gone in the end of nambucca

[raybak]

Camilli quicker than Ostberg

[EstWRC]

Camilli finally showing some progress, i was getting worried in the middle of the season but seems to have got back on track in last rallies.

in the morning Tänak lost 14 seconds, now 40 seconds...

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen having problems with brakes and the gap is just 2.8 secs

[GigiGalliNo1]

Mikkelsen on side of road, hammer in hand - clutch and brake issues!

[Loose_Unit]

These small spectator stages are far too many in this rally. honestly the itinery is crap, daily stage distance is way too short.

[HaCo]

Good morning!

Pretty exciting stuff... the fight for vice-champion is still on.

With these positions the powrstage could decide:
TN 143 + 12 = 155
AM 129 + 25 = 154
HP 126 + 15 = 141

Powerstage championship decider?

[BigWorm]

Good morning!

Pretty exciting stuff... the fight for vice-champion is still on.

With these positions the powrstage could decide:
TN 143 + 12 = 155
AM 129 + 25 = 154
HP 126 + 15 = 141

Powerstage championship decider?

Hayden's pretty far from it now though

[dimviii]

Latvalas tyre

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxmKRgEVIAAUj9x.jpg

[dimviii]

Michelin video day 2
https://youtu.be/hexdyDGQL5A

[seb_sh]

What a drive in the afternoon for Ogier, even without Andreas' problems he would be pretty close.

[dupanton]

Good morning!

Pretty exciting stuff... the fight for vice-champion is still on.

With these positions the powrstage could decide:
TN 143 + 12 = 155
AM 129 + 25 = 154
HP 126 + 15 = 141

Powerstage championship decider?

Paddon could give his position to Neuville to give Neuville 2nd in the championship. I don't know if it will happen though.

[N.O.T]

Paddon could give his position to Neuville to give Neuville 2nd in the championship. I don't know if it will happen though.

it will not happen

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

Paddon could give his position to Neuville to give Neuville 2nd in the championship. I don't know if it will happen though.

at theory this can happen with Ogier and Mikkelsen,if Ogier is leading.
Mikkelsen at stage end said that Ogier told him that will help him to be 2nd at championship,but don't know if he will gift a rally win to his fellow.

[EstWRC]

Tänak wasnt the only one who got held by police, Neuville and Mikkelsen got bigger fines

http://www.rallyaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CoC-Decision-No.3.pdf
http://www.rallyaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CoC-Decision-No.4.pdf
http://www.rallyaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/CoC-Decision-No.5.pdf

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@Dmacktyres Really positive day at RallyAustralia our tyres have been working really well in the tough, hot stages! https://t.co/SVYjg5GUEo

Really ??

[EstWRC]

yeah i just saw it and was laughing at this

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon disappoints again...Saturday was his favourite day in the whole year but he only did one good stage.

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rally_australia_2016/hus_dsc_0440-m.jpg

http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=27494&t=Kennards-Hire-Rally-Australia-2016

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Amazing that as well as being the fastest and the best at managing tyres Ogier also gets the luck. Mikkelsen losing vital time with the brake pedal stuck down by the clutch is ridiculously unlucky.

[dupanton]

at theory this can happen with Ogier and Mikkelsen,if Ogier is leading.
Mikkelsen at stage end said that Ogier told him that will help him to be 2nd at championship,but don't know if he will gift a rally win to his fellow.

Yes, interesting to see if there ll be a team with this kind of tactics.
BTW, as it stands now, the winner in the Powerstage in the Neuville/Mikkelsen battle will take 2nd place. On equal points Mikkelsen takes 2nd I think (1 win and 2 2nd places vs 1 win and 1 2nd place for Neuville)

[stefanvv]

Yes, interesting to see if there ll be a team with this kind of tactics.
BTW, as it stands now, the winner in the Powerstage in the Neuville/Mikkelsen battle will take 2nd place. On equal points Mikkelsen takes 2nd I think (1 win and 2 2nd places vs 1 win and 1 2nd place for Neuville)

2 wins for the Norwegian if it stays like that.

[A FONDO]

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[stefanvv]

@Dmacktyres Really positive day at RallyAustralia our tyres have been working really well in the tough, hot stages! https://t.co/SVYjg5GUEo

Really ??

If the tyres have been working well (for their standards), it is thanks to Tanak. I'm quite sure it could be much worse.

[bluuford]

If the tyres have been working well (for their standards), it is thanks to Tanak. I'm quite sure it could be much worse.

he has done well indeed.. In Sardegna, there were images with completely destroyedDMack tyres. Now, seems that he has found fine line.. we have seen Jari Matti with completely destroyed Michelins but nothing bad from Dmack.. pure marketing ;)

[BigWorm]

Paddon disappoints again...Saturday was his favourite day in the whole year but he only did one good stage.

He has been very disappointing on the second passes this rally. With different running orders now I don't see him making up any time against Ogier/Mikkelsen. He should be happy to settle with 3rd.

[Rally Power]

Still 90 kms to go and Paddon is only 12s behind...hoping for a great final day. Nice to see that MSport drivers, specially Cammili, are closer to competition.

[Eric]

Paddon disappoints again...Saturday was his favourite day in the whole year but he only did one good stage.

I agree. Expected more of him this weekend. This is his home rally and his starting position isn't too bad. Still waiting to see the Paddon we saw in Argentina, haven't been too much of that after his victory.. :\\

[SubaruNorway]

Looks like Mikkelsen's clutch pedal is bent up in the cut at 4:40 in Valla 2

[dimviii]

at theory this can happen with Ogier and Mikkelsen,if Ogier is leading.
Mikkelsen at stage end said that Ogier told him that will help him to be 2nd at championship,but don't know if he will gift a rally win to his fellow.

Apparently, Ogier reportedly said this at the press conference at the end of Day 2:



"The truth is that at the beginning of the weekend, I did not think I could play the victory here and that a podium would already be great. Now that we are in a position to win, we can not really play a tactic and help Andreas to beat Thierry. Andreas is a fighter, he is able to defend his position and I am sure it will be more fun for everyone to win tomorrow after a real fight. "

[A FONDO]

Still 90 kms to go and Paddon is

How many?

[EstWRC]

60kms

[Mk2 RS2000]

Calling Rally Australia as a New Zealanders home rally is a bit of an insult to all new Zealanders, especially those working on bring back the WRC event to our shores..
Sure it is the closest one to home but it is a totally different country and similar distance as it is from Dublin to Venice.
One does not read comments from to many people referring to all European rallies as Meeke's "home Rally"

[Mintexmemory]

All the speculation regarding team orders seems to overlook the fact that Ogier will be looking to maximise his own record prior to going on the market. Additionally, showing Mikkelsen who's boss will be of future psychological supremacy. Finally, as Seb has been nursing the feeling he should have had more wins all season I can't see him giving this one away if he's got it in the bag (which I fully expect to happen).

[seb_sh]

I agree, no way is Ogier giving up the win.

[EstWRC]

of course he wont give it away, he wants to end his VW career with style

[Simmi]

Triple agreed - when was the last time Ogier 'gifted' a rival anything. Not in his DNA.

Can't see Mikkelsen holding Seb off. Ogier in this position always reminds me of this scene from The Matrix - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIbEj1CIpuU

That's what makes Hayden's Argentina final stand all the more notable.

[Rally Power]

60kms

You're right, the big stage runs only once. That makes Paddon job almost impossible.

[stefanvv]

Paddon has a job?

[Eric]

Triple agreed - when was the last time Ogier 'gifted' a rival anything. Not in his DNA.

Can't see Mikkelsen holding Seb off. Ogier in this position always reminds me of this scene from The Matrix - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIbEj1CIpuU

That's what makes Hayden's Argentina final stand all the more notable.

Don't forget Mikkelsens fight with Ogier in Portugal. Same conditions on the last day, Mikkelsen won.

[EstWRC]

Paddon has a job?


yes, he is a rally driver and his job is to attack for the win

[BigWorm]

Even if Paddon is fired up, Mikkelsen and Ogier will definitely be so too. Both superior drivers to Paddon, they will also have a better road position.

[EstWRC]

one hour basically left till the first stage and it will be a sad day actually...it still hasnt hit me that VW are leaving, it just seems so unreal...such a shame

[stefanvv]

yes, he is a rally driver and his job is to attack for the win

Good luck to him in the melee with the 2 VW drivers.

[SubaruNorway]

Even if Paddon is fired up, Mikkelsen and Ogier will definitely be so too. Both superior drivers to Paddon, they will also have a better road position.

What's up with the hostility against Paddon among some here?
Superior is stretching it and the difference between starting 8th to 9th and 10th is barely nothing.

[BigWorm]

What's up with the hostility against Paddon among some here?
Superior is stretching it and the difference between starting 8th to 9th and 10th is barely nothing.
Not firing any shots against him, just somewhat disappointed with his performance. Ogier cleaned the road for him for 2 days but Ogier's still infront. Ogier won't have to do this now and that means Ogier most likely will be alot faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ok so Aus isnt Paddon's real home rally... but he did say Saturday was his favourite day in the whole Ch'ship. Expected more from him here. Maybe he's not the next big thing some were making him out to be.

[KKS]

4 min gap for today

[BigWorm]

Ok so Aus isnt Paddon's real home rally... but he did say Saturday was his favourite day in the whole Ch'ship. Expected more from him here. Maybe he's not the next big thing some were making him out to be.

He has said it's currently the home rally for him, hasn't he?

[Mirek]

4 min gap for today

While I understand that there is a dust problem I don't like these extreme gaps for two reasons - usually it's given only to the top competitors and the rest can go to fuck themselves even though they paid an entry fee and the second reason is that it's boring as hell to spectate and to follow online.

[rallyfiend]

While I understand that there is a dust problem I don't like these extreme gaps for two reasons - usually it's given only to the top competitors and the rest can go to fuck themselves even though they paid an entry fee and the second reason is that it's boring as hell to spectate and to follow online.

I imagine it's being done for the Live TV.

[KKS]

1 car at same tim on the road.
Gap - 4 min, stage time - 3.10

[KKS]

I imagine it's being done for the Live TV.
They have 30min regroup before it

[Mirek]

Maybe a stupid question as I have only now looked in the itinerary but isn't the rally a little bit too short for WRC event?

[kirungi okwogera]

Y'all are nuts. Paddon is 12s off winning a second career rally behind the ultra dominant world champion (who regularly wins sweeping from the front) and another guy trying to win a second career rally. 12 seconds is a fart. In what way is this a bad performance? Look at the standing of every other one-rally winner in the standings right now, there are a few of them at the moment. He is fast but he is not faster than Ogier (which incidentally is the best compliment you can give right now to any driver who is not Ogier), why should he be dominating? It's not like the roads are anything like NZ roads. He likes the rally? Loads of guys like rallies they don't do their best driving on.

That said, this has been Mikkelsen's rally this time, doing very well and unlike one of his more senior teammates it'd be a shame if 2017 did not see him with a drive - winning here should help with that though.

[kirungi okwogera]

Maybe a stupid question as I have only now looked in the itinerary but isn't the rally a little bit too short for WRC event?

Yeah, it's like 220something right? Aren't the regs something like 250km minimum, 400 max or something?

[Mirek]

Y'all are nuts.

How about to address You message instead of attacking the whole forum community?

[stefanvv]

Yeah, it's like 220something right? Aren't the regs something like 250km minimum, 400 max or something?

I don't know, but the plan for next year was 250kms with 1 and half day. And this seems already short.

[HarriK]

It's over 250km

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport · 5m5 minutes ago
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#Tyre info: M-Sport/Ogier: 4 LTX Force S4 +1H4
Mikkelsen/Latvala/Paddon/Sordo: 5S
Neuville: 3S+2H
#wrc #RallyAustralia

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxp3LL3UoAAchVc.jpg

[leighton323]

How about to address You message instead of attacking the whole forum community?
His comment is hardly an attack, more of a figure of speech. Maybe lost in translation I suppose.

In saying that, I highly commend Mikkelsen, Ogier and Paddon. We are looking at one of the closest rallies of the whole year and all three are driving extremely well.

[kirungi okwogera]

How about to address You message instead of attacking the whole forum community?

Y'all just means plural, not "everyone"

[dimviii]

Neuville very slow, wrong tyres choice?

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Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial · 3s3 seconds ago

SS19 #Neuville: "I went straight in a very fast section, I was distracted by the dust in the car. I stalled the engine and lost 10s."

[KKS]

Maybe a stupid question as I have only now looked in the itinerary but isn't the rally a little bit too short for WRC event?
I think that in draft itinerary there was Bucca II, and overall distance 300+km

[BigWorm]

Neuville stalled, lost 10s

[EstWRC]

very good times from Latvala and Tänak considering their startin pos.

[SubaruNorway]

It's over 250km 315km

[Mirek]

His comment is hardly an attack, more of a figure of speech. Maybe lost in translation I suppose.


Y'all just means plural, not "everyone"

OK then.

[Mirek]

315km

I can see 283 but I think that some stages were cut.

Now something completely different... How do You guys enjoy the WRC2 title battle? [sarcasm]

[danon]

How about to address You message instead of attacking the whole forum community?

touchy bohemian

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Mikkelsen !

[kirungi okwogera]

Mikkelson pulling away, wonder if he'll hold it! Up by .6 sec.

[stefanvv]

How do You guys enjoy the WRC2 title battle? [sarcasm]

What battle?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tweet by DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 24s24 seconds ago
Great to see @SebOgier battling for the lead on final day - on the worst rally for road cleaning. Shows how well the current rules work.

[AL14]

Tweet by DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 24s24 seconds ago
Great to see @SebOgier battling for the lead on final day - on the worst rally for road cleaning. Shows how well the current rules work.

lol that's ridiculous.

[stefanvv]

Tweet by DMACK Tyres ‏@DMACK_Tyres 24s24 seconds ago
Great to see @SebOgier battling for the lead on final day - on the worst rally for road cleaning. Shows how well the current rules work.

I'm totally lost here.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm totally lost here.

Same. :confused:

[EstWRC]

i dont get it too and Tänak got distracted by Bertelli's dust, damn!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

DMack must be having a bit of fun on this last rally of 2016... a few of their tweets have been a bit strange.

[EstWRC]

i think they are already partying

[stefanvv]

Funny people, but there is fines in the joke, there has been many much worse rallies for Ogier this year.

[danon]

I can see 283 but I think that some stages were cut...

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[EstWRC]

what a split by Ogier, 4 secs faster than Sordo

[BigWorm]

Ogier being Ogier on the first split

[KKS]

Paddon was out of winning battle, +6.6 to JML at split3, and Ogier was 10.5 quicker then JML at split2

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon's losing plenty on the last split.

[kirungi okwogera]

Yeah fight is over for Paddon - puncture?

[Lundefaret]

Regarding Hayden:
Everyone is entitled to his or hers own opinion, but I think one should base ones expectations, hopes, etc on actual parameters, looking at previous results on the same rally, experience etc etc, rather than just a subjective feeling.

- Hayden is in only his second full WRC season, and is by far the least experienced WRC driver in the Top 5 in the Championship, and in the Top 3 in this rally.
- Rally Australia is nothing like rallying in New Zealand (and Im not only talking about the snakes ;) ), but road character and gravel is totally different.
- Last year Hayden was almost a minute behind the winner, so there has definitely been a major improvement in this event. (And I think this rally has been faster.)
- And he has pulled off another great showing with his performance on the first running on Nambucca.
- On a more overall perspective Hayden has stabilised his performance among "the best of the rest" (Ogier still is in his own league.)
- And I think every one and his grand mother would agree that he has no advantage compared to the Volkswagen (and the Citroën for that matter) when it comes to the car.
- And he is still improving - where several of the other top drivers have flattened out.

Off course Hayden still have areas that he needs to improve to become World Champion. Tarmac is the obvious one, but there are other things also. But he knows it, and works extremely hard to improve these things.

To explain a bit about Hayden I think the best example isn't necessarily his victory in Argentina, but what he did after his two dramatic misfortunes in Portugal and Sardinia.
If you compare to Neuville that started to struggle in the end of 2013, and didnt really come back on form until a bit into this year, Hayden worked extremely hard before Poland and came back not only finishing his event, but on the podium.

So as I said, every one is entitled to his or hers opinion, but for me at least I am very impressed by the improvements Hayden has done this season, and on this event. If he works on his weakest points on this event, he will have an even better chance fighting for the victory next year.

[KKS]

And Nueville up to 3rd. Paddon +31.6 at split4

[dimviii]

Paddon on problem?

[BigWorm]

I hope he hasn't slowed down for Thierry... that's just wrong.

[bluuford]

Paddons dust will be problem for Ogier?

[Lundefaret]

Yeah fight is over for Paddon - puncture?

Lets hope so, these things can happen when you give it your everything.
But better a puncture than a more dramatic failure.
Mikkelsen looses to much to Ogier, wow, this is a fight!

[kirungi okwogera]

Paddons dust will be problem for Ogier?

Doesn't look like it from Ogier's splits

[HarriK]

PAddon lost over 1minute.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It was his error hitting a bank & knocking the tyre off the rim.

[KKS]

Doesn't look like it from Ogier's splits
it's can effect on last one

[KKS]

and yes.. Ogier lost 16 sec

[kirungi okwogera]

and yes.. Ogier lost 16 sec

"I spun!"

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxqCaAiUcAAe9Wg.jpg

[BigWorm]

and yes.. Ogier lost 16 sec

Wow... he was driving expertly. That's so unfortunate.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fast spin, not the dust !

[smsgrafica]

and yes.. Ogier lost 16 sec

You really do hate Ogier, don't you?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen deserves some luck after his crazy pedal problem last night.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

22.2s lead for Mikkesen.

[bluuford]

Ogier had too clean road probably.. He is not used to such a luxury :P

[BigWorm]

Very not Ogier-like! This stage has been madness

[dimviii]

Ogier

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxqDkG3XUAQsIwG.jpg

[KKS]

You really do hate Ogier, don't you?
since Germany'2011

[Lundefaret]

Perfomance of his life from Andreas Mikkelsen!

[kirungi okwogera]

Mikkelsen sounding very professional and calm, like a guy who has won more than one rally in his career. Soon enough it seems this will be true.

[smsgrafica]

since Germany'2011

Wow, so four years of tears in a row for you, then...

[smsgrafica]

Mikkelsen sounding very professional and calm, like a guy who has won more than one rally in his career. Soon enough it seems this will be true.

He already has 2... This would be #3.

[Mirek]

OK, so without actual intention both Ogier and Paddon just helped their colleagues...

[seb_sh]

Mega drive by Mikkelsen on this rally. I hope he will have a good car next year, he has been steadily improving and I do think he's in the top 3 WRC drivers overall at the moment.

[kirungi okwogera]

He already has 2... This would be #3.

I stand corrected! Well done to him! And yes if this doesn't get him a seat before Latvala I don't know what will.

[AL14]

...
Last year Hayden was almost a minute behind the winner, so there has definitely been a major improvement in this event. ...

Jinx of the year

[EightGear]

Mikkelsen should be safe now.

Would be quite a result for him.

[KKS]

Wow, so four years of tears in a row for you, then...
I have some good rallies this year :)... and most of my "happiness" cuz him so lucky. It starts from 1st VW Monte and continues all way, last proof - drive-shaft in GB.

[stefanvv]

Perfomance of his life from Andreas Mikkelsen!

Well fingers crossed for him. He really deserves it at farewell with VW. But now this beautiful fight is over.

[Lundefaret]

Jinx of the year

Yes, maybe, but point is the same.
Hayden has improved by a huge margin on this event, and if you see it in a bigger picture that puncture isn't really that important. Its all about building up his performance to make it strong enough to fight for "the big cup", so its better taking that puncture now, than when its something bigger on the line.
But I am off course extremely gutted for him. I know how much he wanted a good finish here, and on top of that he has a lot of fans on this event, and he will feel that he has let everybody down, so lets hope he can channel his frustration in to something constructive, and win that podium back! :)

[dupanton]

Would be a very well deserved win for Mikkelsen, but not enough to finish 2nd in the championship :)

[dimviii]

. I know how much he wanted a good finish here, and on top of that he has a lot of fans on this event, and he will feel that he has let everybody down, so lets hope he can channel his frustration in to something constructive, and win that podium back! :)

why?this puncture didn't change something , he can reach podium again,he is just 14,6sec from Neuville

[HarriK]

Next TV stage live! Broadcast startedjust.

[Mirek]

why?this puncture didn't change something , he can reach podium again,he is just 14,6sec from Neuville

And by that maybe give the second place in the championship to Mikkelsen from arch-rival team (depending on PS)?

[dimviii]

is there anybody from Europe that will be awake for the power stage? http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/hang.gif

[Lundefaret]

is there anybody from Europe that will be awake for the power stage? http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/hang.gif

#NoSleepTonight

[dimviii]

Sun 09:43 - SS21: Latvala
He's through in 3m41.0s. How was that? "The feeling is really, really good. I'm enjoying the driving. I can see no reason why we can't continue next year..."

[Eric]

is there anybody from Europe that will be awake for the power stage? http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/hang.gif

No :snore: here

[dimviii]

#NoSleepTonight


@Greece will be 4,08 at morning http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/helpsmilie.gif

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Camilli crash ... shame.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MSport have sold that car already too !

[Mirek]

Molly Taylor in the lead of all locals :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Cant get Camiili"s car back on its wheels. Stage delayed.

[stefanvv]

Now the spectators should use the "Novikov trick"

[dimviii]

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Rally Australia ‏@RallyAustralia · 41s41 seconds ago

. @EricCamilli back on the wheels. Stage Delayed for now. #RallyAustralia

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Save the car.. its sale means more money to get Ogier ! ;)

[dimviii]

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Bit of a frantic moments after #Camilli rolled the car, trying to continue and fire appeared
Going nowhere now...

[Mirek]

Save the car.. its sale means more money to get Ogier ! ;)

Maybe it's better to take the insurance money ;)

[stefanvv]

Maybe it's better to take the insurance money ;)

Perhaps they're already saving from insurance fees to get him?!?

[SubaruNorway]

Comedy evening, how hard can it be to get that car out of the way

[Mirek]

Perhaps they're already saving from insurance fees to get him?!?

Would You let Camilli drive without insurance?

[dimviii]

Rally Australia ‏@RallyAustralia · 12s12 seconds ago

. @EricCamilli #RallyAustralia stage to reopen in 2 minutes.

[EstWRC]

What an entertainment !

[stefanvv]

Would You let Camilli drive without insurance?

Well, recently he had been quite "cheap".

[HarriK]

2mins to open stage again

[skarderud]

Every contract has some clausules, in case of camilli....

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Come on FFS...

[dimviii]

Sun 10:06 - SS21: Ostberg
Waiting on the start line for the stage to get underway again. A medical crew is on its way to the crash scene.

[Zeakiwi]

Save the car.. its sale means more money to get Ogier ! ;)
and money to put some good parts on Ogier's 2017 Fiesta.

Did Camilli snort some extinguisher contents? If so get well soon.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

and money to put some good parts on Ogier's 2017 Fiesta.

Ogier is the most valuable part..

[Rallyper]

Not professional spectators nor marshalls. Should´ve been Finland and no delay at all.

[Rallyper]

Now, could we please have a replay instead of that blablabla.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I hope WRC+ & BT Sport stick with the coverage.

[dimviii]

Rally Australia ‏@RallyAustralia · 2m2 minutes ago

#RallyAustralia Stage Update: Medical car left stage, checked over Eric.

Sun 10:16 - SS21: Ostberg
He and co-driver Ola Floene have put on their helmets and have climbed back inside their Fiesta.

[Rallyper]

Maybe this get us the images of what next season will bring?

[satnav]

I hope WRC+ & BT Sport stick with the coverage.
I'll be surprised if they do ........Hope they do tho

[Rallyper]

Come on Mads!!

[stefanvv]

Not professional spectators nor marshalls. Should´ve been Finland and no delay at all.

"Professional spectators":D

[Rallyper]

"Professional spectators":D

You haven´t seen such humans, do you?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'll be surprised if they do ........Hope they do tho

Say they will. :)

[satnav]

Say they will. :)
Looking good

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great job by AM this am. :D

[Rallyper]

Mikkelsen on a mission!

[satnav]

Mikkelsen looking very much in control as well , very good drive so far.....
Well done to BTSport for staying to the end

[stefanvv]

What did Latvala did on that stage, I wanna know?

[satnav]

What did Latvala did on that stage, I wanna know?

2nd quickest 3.41.0

[HarriK]

A friend of mine reported from stage Bucca16 that 5 year old boy was almost hit by Serderidis car because he turned in wrong direction at some junction. If that was same spot that he send me video, the people were in very dangerous place!

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxqZxO_XEAI40gy.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon · 41s42 seconds ago

Devastated. Even if we didn't have the speed for the win a podium would have been great! 2 stages to go.Sorry everyone! @RallyAustralia

[Eric]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxqZxO_XEAI40gy.jpg:large

:D:D

[raybak]

Big battle in the Australian Championship today, could be the first female to win our National Championship with Molly Taylor leading. Harry Bates in the Toyota S2000 was leading but had issues on Bucca stage and lost over 5 mins.

Ray

[Danny0405]

Big battle in the Australian Championship today, could be the first female to win our National Championship with Molly Taylor leading. Harry Bates in the Toyota S2000 was leading but had issues on Bucca stage and lost over 5 mins.

Ray

Would not be a huge surprise as she was 2nd last year with a R3 car
But good for ver :)

[Lundefaret]

Big battle in the Australian Championship today, could be the first female to win our National Championship with Molly Taylor leading. Harry Bates in the Toyota S2000 was leading but had issues on Bucca stage and lost over 5 mins.

Ray

Molly is driving really good.
Pernilla Walfridsson (now Petter Solberg wife) was on the road to become the next Michelle Mouton, winning amongst other things the Norwegian championship in Group N, but she chose family life, vs a rallying career.
Maybe Molly is the next female WRC pilot? Lets hope so! :)

[raybak]

In the ARC if the positions don't change over the last 2 stages we will have Molly on 321 points as well as Simon Evans with Harry Bates on 319. Very close.

[Mirek]

How many events remaining?

[Danny0405]

How many events remaining?

It's the last event of the season ;)

[Mirek]

Who would win if they have same score?

[itix]

Molly is driving really good.
Pernilla Walfridsson (now Petter Solberg wife) was on the road to become the next Michelle Mouton, winning amongst other things the Norwegian championship in Group N, but she chose family life, vs a rallying career.
Maybe Molly is the next female WRC pilot? Lets hope so! :)

I've always seen you as an intelligent person (space frames aside) ;)
I do however think that it is a bit late for Taylor in the career. Sure, Mouton wasn't young either but she was kind of hired on a whim by Audi as a marketing gimmick (and certainly a correct choice given that Mouton came a alive completely with the car). Modern motorsport teams don't really do that so Molly would have to go the long route... She's quick but I doubt she's quick enough sadly.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Latvala's final stage with VW

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161120/b066b9df50a4259cc3ebec6bb001d2fa.jpg

[N.O.T]

Molly is driving really good.
Pernilla Walfridsson (now Petter Solberg wife) was on the road to become the next Michelle Mouton, winning amongst other things the Norwegian championship in Group N, but she chose family life, vs a rallying career.
Maybe Molly is the next female WRC pilot? Lets hope so! :)

No woman can ever be a competitive WRC driver the way things progressed.

[Mirek]

I am falling asleep. The 4 minutes gaps are killing.

[N.O.T]

well th..th..th...th...that's all folks

see you in 2017 and try to control yourselves, it was really hard for me to keep you under control this year.

[Danny0405]

Driver championship standings:
1. Ogier 268
2. Neuville 160
3. Mikkelsen 154
4. Paddon 138
5. Sordo 130
6. Latvala 112
7. Ostberg 102
8. Tanak 88
9. Meeke 64
10. Breen 36
11. Camilli 28
12. Lappi 16

manufacturer championship:
1. VW 377
2. Hyundai 312
3. VWII 163
4. M-Sport 162 (thank you Camilli)
5. Hyundai N 146
6. DMack 98

[Mk2 RS2000]

Its been an interesting season.
I for are are looking forward to 2017 with quite some supressed excitement, new cars, new teams, changes of personal, it sure is going to be a few events until cream starts to rise to the top.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Anyone awake? Andreas won...

[PLuto]

I am falling asleep. The 4 minutes gaps are killing.

U cannot imagine to be on the stage and wait for cars in 4 minutes gaps. Sometimes I think that 2 minutes are too long...

[wwbroe]

And the new WRC2 world champ is surprisingly Esapekka Lappi.:D

[Danny0405]

Huge counter-performance by Markovic in the Power stage.
It might allow Evans to take Fifth position overall. Not 100% sure but I think Evans will probably win the Australian championship except if himself or Pedder has an issue

[sollitt]

Its been an interesting season.
I for are are looking forward to 2017 with quite some supressed excitement, new cars, new teams, changes of personal, it sure is going to be a few events until cream starts to rise to the top.

Cream will always rise to the top Carl. It just might be from a different coloured cow next year.

[KKS]

It should be poduim live from facebook page RallyAustralia (around 15:15 local)
https://www.facebook.com/rallyaustralia/?fref=ts

[skarderud]

Andreas is the new god! Fantastic win here, if no team hire him next year they are plain stupid.

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[A FONDO]

Such a beautiful rally with unique scenery https://twitter.com/jameshunter6789/status/800106873873543168
Solid job from Andreas that resulted in a well-deserved victory. Stupid mistake by Ogier that costed him the victory this time. Very poor performance from the self-believer Paddon who memorized one stage and that was everything.
And fantastic for Neuville - 3rd in the event, 2nd in the PS and a vice-champion. I'm sure he must be the main title contender to Ogier next year, no matter if Andreas drives or not.

[Grundo Farb]

Not firing any shots against him, just somewhat disappointed with his performance. Ogier cleaned the road for him for 2 days but Ogier's still infront. Ogier won't have to do this now and that means Ogier most likely will be alot faster.

Really disappointed with some peoples attitude on this rally. When an underdog does well on some rallies everyone supports them and is disappointed with the end result when it doesn't go well - Tanak and Mikkelson being the best examples. But I really really don't understand when someone like Paddon who has had many podiums this year, storms from 4th to second on one stage and then people say very negative things. "Expected more"

Everyone has favourites I know but be objective people.

Or maybe he should just be quiet and never tell his fans anything like "I will try really hard on this rally, or I really enjoy this day" as then people will not be upset if it doesn't go to plan. I for one like the fact that he tells us when he is trying. rather than blaming tyres....

[bassist]

well th..th..th...th...that's all folks

see you in 2017 and try to control yourselves, it was really hard for me to keep you under control this year.

I do hope not N.O.T.

[bluuford]

Very good! This was first real win for Andreas.. Must be great feeling for him! First two wins arrived on 25th hour of the day and were a bit unexpected and came after the fight was basically lost. Good work!
And guys, remember, Ogier starts to make mistakes when there is real competition for him (hi do not want to loose, so, he then drives 110 % and then mistakes happen ;), so, this is good sign! we had competition!

[BigWorm]

Very good, Andreas. He made Ogier crack and that's pretty rare.

[6789]

Such a beautiful rally with unique scenery https://twitter.com/jameshunter6789/status/800106873873543168
Solid job from Andreas that resulted in a well-deserved victory. Stupid mistake by Ogier that costed him the victory this time. Very poor performance from the self-believer Paddon who memorized one stage and that was everything.
And fantastic for Neuville - 3rd in the event, 2nd in the PS and a vice-champion. I'm sure he must be the main title contender to Ogier next year, no matter if Andreas drives or not.

Full highlight video here - did our best considering how much they restrict access. Ogier's lines were super aggressive, particularly on the second passes. Great drive by Mikkelsen, we thought Ogier had him going into Sunday.

https://youtu.be/953FyRD7Q_Y

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Really fine win by Mikkelsen, a proper well-earned victory.

It should give him real confidence for next Season.

[BigWorm]

Really disappointed with some peoples attitude on this rally. When an underdog does well on some rallies everyone supports them and is disappointed with the end result when it doesn't go well - Tanak and Mikkelson being the best examples. But I really really don't understand when someone like Paddon who has had many podiums this year, storms from 4th to second on one stage and then people say very negative things. "Expected more"

Everyone has favourites I know but be objective people.

Or maybe he should just be quiet and never tell his fans anything like "I will try really hard on this rally, or I really enjoy this day" as then people will not be upset if it doesn't go to plan. I for one like the fact that he tells us when he is trying. rather than blaming tyres....

Wow, some sensitive people. Since when did critique become illegal? Paddon himself expected more than fourth, so why couldn't we do that too?

[Danny0405]

Molly Taylor wins the championship.
She was 2nd initially but Mark Pedder takes a 1-minute penalty for check-in early

[Rallyper]

Really disappointed with some peoples attitude on this rally. When an underdog does well on some rallies everyone supports them and is disappointed with the end result when it doesn't go well - Tanak and Mikkelson being the best examples. But I really really don't understand when someone like Paddon who has had many podiums this year, storms from 4th to second on one stage and then people say very negative things. "Expected more"

Everyone has favourites I know but be objective people.

Or maybe he should just be quiet and never tell his fans anything like "I will try really hard on this rally, or I really enjoy this day" as then people will not be upset if it doesn't go to plan. I for one like the fact that he tells us when he is trying. rather than blaming tyres....

+10

[Rallyper]

well th..th..th...th...that's all folks

see you in 2017 and try to control yourselves, it was really hard for me to keep you under control this year.

We also want to see you more fieldoperative in taking control over us rallyfans. Could it be possible see you in action for example in Finland in 2017? ;)

[stefanvv]

2nd quickest 3.41.0

:). Amazing performance on the loose gravel (while Ogier & Mikkelsen were also on the limit more or less), that was my question in general, but it was late and didn't want to write too many words.
However there is a sign returning his mojo back at this final round, while he was almost sleeping all year. I wonder if that has anything to do with the new endeavor next year?!? Well, he still makes mistakes and destroys his tyres on long stages, but suddenly he is little more motivated?!?

[Rally Power]

Everyone has favourites I know but be objective people.

You’re right, but do you remember seeing Paddon’s fans being objective towards Neuville? I don’t; actually during the Belgium worse times many said that Neuville was finished and Paddon was the new numero uno…

Everyone must realize that WRC drivers are fantastic drivers and all of them deserve our admiration and respect. Ups and downs are normal on their careers, but somehow they all manage to come back. I bet that even Latvala will surprise us with his future achievements!

Btw, top WRC 2 crews also should be praised. Lappi show he can be reliable, besides incredible fast; Evans took his demotion with a pro spirit and Suninen keeps wondering with his precocious champ maturity. They all deserve to get a WRC seat next year. Best luck to them!

[EstWRC]

Amazing drive by Mikkelsen, absolutely on it from the first stage to the end. Disappointed with Latvala and kinda disappointed with Ogier, Paddon and Tänak.

i really like this picture, they may have some arguments and different opinions from time to time but at the same time they are like a big family

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxq-kv-VEAAGj2x.jpg

[kirungi okwogera]

You’re right, but do you remember seeing Paddon’s fans being objective towards Neuville? I don’t; actually during the Belgium worse times many said that Neuville was finished and Paddon was the new numero uno…

Everyone must realize that WRC drivers are fantastic drivers and all of them deserve our admiration and respect. Ups and downs are normal on their careers, but somehow they all manage to come back. I bet that even Latvala will surprise us with his future achievements!

Btw, top WRC 2 crews also should be praised. Lappi show he can be reliable, besides incredible fast; Evans took his demotion with a pro spirit and Suninen keeps wondering with his precocious champ maturity. They all deserve to get a WRC seat next year. Best luck to them!

I agree with you about most of these things - the one thing that confuses me is this stuff about supporters of Paddon being negative about Neuville. I read this forum plenty and haven't seen this - I see no reason if you are supporting one upcoming Hyundai driver not to support the other. Plus, that'd be particularly stupid considering Neuville's results this year especially. You could maybe have claimed he had no more fight in him 18 months ago but not really since then, and back then Paddon was not in a position to be considered the same level. Can you point me to some comments like that?

Anyway it's one thing to flog guys who have had three or five or ten years at top level and have obviously shown all they can accomplish, it's another to be down on newer drivers who still have room for improvement. Neuville and Paddon both fall in that category I think.

That said, there are not enough factory seats for the number of drivers who are worth a go, and quite a few ready to step up from WRC2, which is a shame, but if they hang on in the support category another year I think 2017 will see some guys drop off/retire/go to WRX. And we will see more strong WRC2 competition.

[COD]

Amazing drive by Mikkelsen, absolutely on it from the first stage to the end. Disappointed with Latvala and kinda disappointed with Ogier, Paddon and Tänak.

i really like this picture, they may have some arguments and different opinions from time to time but at the same time they are like a big family

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxq-kv-VEAAGj2x.jpg

Rallying has always been like that. Nice to see that the spirit still exists

[Rally Power]

I agree with you about most of these things - the one thing that confuses me is this stuff about supporters of Paddon being negative about Neuville. I read this forum plenty and haven't seen this - I see no reason if you are supporting one upcoming Hyundai driver not to support the other. Plus, that'd be particularly stupid considering Neuville's results this year especially. You could maybe have claimed he had no more fight in him 18 months ago but not really since then, and back then Paddon was not in a position to be considered the same level. Can you point me to some comments like that?

Sorry mate, I’m not in the mood to search for thread quotes. They exist, believe me, even if, like you said, they’re stupid.

Yep, Paddon has done a great work so far and he’s still progressing; Neuville is getting back to a peak form and Sordo is a reliable point scorer; there’s no doubt Hyundai has a strong line up and their tech staff also proved it can provide a competitive car. Who knows, maybe ’17 can become Hyundai’s year!

On the youngster’s chances to get a WRC seat: if DMack gets a 2nd car and Mr. Wilson puts Cammilli on a R5 ‘diet’ (WRC2+BRC or ERC), like he did with Evans, maybe they’ll all be served. Fingers crossed!

[EstWRC]

points were posted here but other statistics

Event victories

1. Ogier Sébastien 6
2. Meeke Kris 2
= Mikkelsen Andreas 2
4. Latvala Jari-Matti 1
= Paddon Hayden 1
= Neuville Thierry 1


Stage winners

1. Ogier Sébastien 70
2. Latvala Jari-Matti 38
3. Neuville Thierry 30
= Tänak Ott 30
5. Mikkelsen Andreas 27
6. Meeke Kris 26
7. Paddon Hayden 12
8. Sordo Dani 7
9. Østberg Mads 2
= Lefebvre Stéphane 2
11. Abbring Kevin 1
= Camilli Eric 1
= Breen Craig 1


Rally leaders


1. Ogier Sébastien 80
2. Meeke Kris 45
3. Mikkelsen Andreas 37
4. Latvala Jari-Matti 31
5. Neuville Thierry 17
6. Tänak Ott 15
7. Sordo Dani 10
8. Paddon Hayden 6

[COD]

Should make decision for team bosses easy: VW drivers to choose in order:
1. Ogier 2. Mikkelsen 3. Latvala

Me as team boss. Would take 1&2 in That order

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/4CaBnIJhHpE

[seb_sh]

Should make decision for team bosses easy: VW drivers to choose in order:
1. Ogier 2. Mikkelsen 3. Latvala

Me as team boss. Would take 1&2 in That order

I agree. My 3rd pick would be Neuville if he was available.

I've been thinking today and I don't think Meeke has progressed as much as it seems. His good drives this year have come when he had road position and that helped him enough to win, when he pushed he went off as usual... I see him as the next Solberg or Latvala, fast in some circumstances but unsafe when he pushes.

[wia5958]

I agree. My 3rd pick would be Neuville if he was available.

I've been thinking today and I don't think Meeke has progressed as much as it seems. His good drives this year have come when he had road position and that helped him enough to win, when he pushed he went off as usual... I see him as the next Solberg or Latvala, fast in some circumstances but unsafe when he pushes.

His only mistakes this year i can remember was corsica and spain monte carlo and sweden were bad luck wasnt pushing and put it of corsica was his only major mistake out of 6 rallys his roll in spain was also a bit unfortunate as the car just seemed to dig in and roll

[GigiGalliNo1]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/8a632a053f75c6db8f74b84d2bd59142.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/49c01a0aedb267b7d5ab1f8f8072a27f.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/768c0a7e9745cafaf614b8ae61ad33a4.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161121/6c7af233b311e112d4277f3fac5f250c.jpg

Great weekend to capture!

[Simmi]

Nice job Matt. Been enjoying your photos from Oz.

[dimviii]

Paddon video with vip ridesat Australia(brown trousers for vip)
https://twitter.com/HaydenPaddon

[Toyoda]

So Neuville's got inside Paddon's head now, how the tide has turned since the Paddon crash and Neuville victory after Argentina...

[Grundo Farb]

So Neuville's got inside Paddon's head now, how the tide has turned since the Paddon crash and Neuville victory after Argentina...
Where do you get that from?

[Toyoda]

Portugal = 6th - NEUVILLE, CRASH - PADDON
Sardegna= 1st - NEUVILLE, CRASH - PADDON
Poland = 4th - NEUVILLE, >1sec 3rd - PADDON
Finland = 4th - NEUVILLE, 5th - PADDON
Deutschland = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 5th - PADDON
Tour de Corse = 2nd - NEUVILLE, 6th - PADDON
Rally de España = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 4th - PADDON
Rally GB = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 4th - PADDON
Australia = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 4th - PADDON

All bar one

[Grundo Farb]

Portugal = 6th - NEUVILLE, CRASH - PADDON
Sardegna= 1st - NEUVILLE, CRASH - PADDON
Poland = 4th - NEUVILLE, >1sec 3rd - PADDON
Finland = 4th - NEUVILLE, 5th - PADDON
Deutschland = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 5th - PADDON
Tour de Corse = 2nd - NEUVILLE, 6th - PADDON
Rally de España = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 4th - PADDON
Rally GB = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 4th - PADDON
Australia = 3rd - NEUVILLE, 4th - PADDON

All bar one

How does that imply Neuville is in Paddon's head? Neuville has driven really well and Paddon is still developing. I don't get your point. Neither Neuville or Paddon have said anything nor has the team management said anything like Pannase did last year about Neuvilles attitude.

I think they have both driven really well, end of story.

Why make things up?

[pantealex]

How does that imply Neuville is in Paddon's head? Neuville has driven really well and Paddon is still developing. I don't get your point. Neither Neuville or Paddon have said anything nor has the team management said anything like Pannase did last year about Neuvilles attitude.

I think they have both driven really well, end of story.

Why make things up?

With his logic Ogier is in everybodys head ;)

[AL14]

He is actually :)

[dimviii]

https://www.facebook.com/nicolas.gilsoul/posts/10153874623636607:0

[EstWRC]

some onboards uploaded

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FOOLhDOEg8
Lappi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRJ8zVqHLyE
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kACEx7o-75k


video of the gala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKf9MnFqea4

[GravelBen]

https://www.wheelsmag.com.au/features/1611/mcdonalds-drive-through-in-a-wrc-car

Aussie car mag takes Paddon's Hyundai to McDonalds, bit of a laugh.

[A FONDO]

And some pure sound close action from Torsten Eriksen, beware that after 2:30 there are only donuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CaBnIJhHpE