RallyRacc Catalunya-Costa Daurada 2016

[Priorat]

For those interested in, itinerary of Ral·li Catalunya 2016 is out:

http://www.rallyracc.com/2016/ca/itinerario.html

[jbmarcus21]

Update @RallyRACC itinerary (SS2/SS6 deleted) .. Now 19Stages to go with 321.08kms ➡️ http://bit.ly/2c0iU7a

[MartijnS]

Too bad, if they go to 3 minute gaps again, it might be too close to do 4 gravel stages again!

[bearclaw]

Real shame to cancel the first stage. With 4 stages in one loop it was possible to watch 4 stages a day. With that tight itinerary it’s nearly impossible. But if there is a 3 minute gaps as you said it sounds logical to cancel the first one.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundaï enters 4 i20Wrc (3 2016 + 1 2015)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cr0g_4sXEAAwzx9.jpg:large

[Andre Oliveira]

Sordo at home rally as #2 buhhhh

[Nelly]

Sordo has never gone well on the gravel of day 1 and always leaves himself too much to do. It would be great to see him battle the VW'S on the tar.

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map is online => http://bit.ly/2c0iU7a

[jbmarcus21]

Nice entrylist this year include Meeke, Breen, H.Solberg, Abbring, Prokop .. => http://bit.ly/2c0iU7a

[Simmi]

Nice entrylist this year include Meeke, Breen, H.Solberg, Abbring, Prokop .. => http://bit.ly/2c0iU7a

Prokop didn't sit out for long did he. Was assuming we'd see some Hyundai R5s but none on the list. Veiby jumps back up to WRC2 ahead of next year I guess.

Juuso Nordgren up into the Dmack Trophy too, also maybe ahead of next season.

[pantealex]

and no Esapekka Lappi.
so he has 2 events left and there is only 2 rallies left after Catalonia.

[Simmi]

and no Esapekka Lappi.
so he has 2 events left and there is only 2 rallies left after Catalonia.

I'm sure I read somewhere someone said that he would try to win the WRC2 title outside of Skoda. Can't remember whether that was on here or not. Has the relationship broken down?

[pantealex]

I'm sure I read somewhere someone said that he would try to win the WRC2 title outside of Skoda. Can't remember whether that was on here or not. Has the relationship broken down?

Not officially, but maybe next wednesday...
("Tommi" has Fiesta R5)

[Simmi]

Blast from the past on closer inspection of the entry list.

BRC fans of a certain era will know the name Mats Andersson for all his rallies in the Proton.

Catalunya is his first WRC event since Rally GB 1999 according to our friends at eWRC - http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=2558

[dck1989]

Anybody any advice on attending the rally?

[RS]

I suppose there is not much point Skoda investing in Lappi anymore if he's packing his bags and leaving.

[Andre Oliveira]

I'm sure I read somewhere someone said that he would try to win the WRC2 title outside of Skoda. Can't remember whether that was on here or not. Has the relationship broken down?

Strong, very strong rumour.


Not officially, but maybe next wednesday...
("Tommi" has Fiesta R5)

Confirm that. New and in blue cian colour.

[Nelly]

Anybody any advice on attending the rally?

Could be difficult to get more than 2 stages a day. Maybe Saturday you'll get 3. Bring a torch, you'll be walking the early stages in the dark. Haven't much experience of the new stages on Saturday. Terra alta is best of the gravel stages on Friday. Lots of different options. It's easy enough to walk all the stages and pick your own spots. Just get there early

[Simmi]

I suppose there is not much point Skoda investing in Lappi anymore if he's packing his bags and leaving.

They can't expect to compete in WRC2 and not have this happen though. Surely the whole point is they get the best drivers on the way up to WRC. It's been clear for a while there is no room at the inn at VW. So Lappi has to look elsewhere. I'd have thought Skoda would honour the contract - but maybe things really have broken down behind the scenes.

If Lappi did test the Toyota maybe that voided his deal - or gave them grounds to? That's pure speculation though.

[RS]

They can't expect to compete in WRC2 and not have this happen though. Surely the whole point is they get the best drivers on the way up to WRC. It's been clear for a while there is no room at the inn at VW. So Lappi has to look elsewhere. I'd have thought Skoda would honour the contract - but maybe things really have broken down behind the scenes.

If Lappi did test the Toyota maybe that voided his deal - or gave them grounds to? That's pure speculation though.

We don't know what's in the contract, it might have been pretty 'loose'

Of course, if he was going to VW then i'm sure he would be doing these final events.

Looks like Tidemand probably staying with Skoda next year then..

[electroliquid]

Esapekka's and Škoda relationship begin in middle of 2012 season, as his first rally was Rally Poland 2012, which was in late September, so maybe it was just 4 years deal, even it doesn't make sense to sign contract not until the season end.

[tommeke_B]

Not much news about Catalunya on the forum here... Any other people who are going? If the meteo is correct we'll have rain on wednesday (recce) and on shakedown. However every website is different, any forecast we can rely on from Bluuford? :D

[rage82]

My brother and me, we are going also to Spain. Arriving at Wednesday and leaving after Saturday stages. I'm also looking forward for a forecast from bluuford as a most trusted person about weather. Would be nice if we can meet some forum members so if anybody has an idea where to meet?

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[smokingjoe]

Will be there from tommorow till monday. We are cheating slightly and booked in with Rallytours from Wednesday.

Can anyone who has previously been out on stages advise whether there will be food and refresments available ? Thanks in advance.

[rage82]

Will be there from tommorow till monday. We are cheating slightly and booked in with Rallytours from Wednesday.

Can anyone who has previously been out on stages advise whether there will be food and refresments available ? Thanks in advance.
I've been there in 2012 and I've seen some pavilions with food and beverages on some of the access roads to the stages.

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[skarderud]

While waiting for bluuford, the Norwegian site www.yr.no is really good and accurate. Some says its the most presice web-base weatherforecast around, and is used by Michelin and others.

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[PLuto]

While waiting for bluuford, the Norwegian site www.yr.no is really good and accurate. Some says its the most presice web-base weatherforecast around, and is used by Michelin and others.

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I had the same opinion. But I must say, during the last two years their results are much worse than in the past...

[Zeakiwi]

Did anyone see the predicted paths based on the models for Hurricane Matthew?
http://weather.edition.cnn.com/weather/intl/forecast.jsp?locCode=SPXX0015&zipCode=267633826667 (Barcelona weather via cnn)

[bluuford]

While waiting for bluuford, the Norwegian site www.yr.no is really good and accurate. Some says its the most presice web-base weatherforecast around, and is used by Michelin and others.

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Hi all, about the weather. YR.no is good. It has some downsides, but you can get over these when you know what are these ;)

So, the first you must make sure you avoid coastal region between Salou and Barcelona on Wednesday noon and afternoon. Very, very, very heavy rainfall is expected in this region (yes the storm is coming). Not sure where the center of the rainfall is going to hit but magnitude of the rain is expected to be stronger than Corsica 2015. So, it is likely that Salou superspecial might be badly damaged and asphalt stages will be affected.

Rain should be over by shakedown but if the rain hits this region, I am not sure that shake is driveable ;) temperature +18..+20
Barcelona SS is most likely rainy ,moderate to strong rain, tempreture +18--+20, light wind.
Friday:
Morning is a bit chilly (just over +10), might be still a bit humid from previous days(not so much rain expected here on Wednesday) Temperature in the morning stages is around +15..+18, sunny and relatively strong wind, 7-9 m/s. Only stage 2, might be more wet from previous days.

Afternoon, wind drops to nearly zero, sunny, temperature around +20 degrees

Saturday:
SS8 -9 are the ones that should get also a lot of rain on Wednesday and there might be some damage to the road and dirt. Morning temperatures are relatively cold. It is possible that temperature for first two satges is little less than +10 degrees or just around it, it is sunny and windy
SS10-11 are expected to get also a lot of rain on Wednesday and on Thursday and might be also on Friday and is sunny on Saturday and temperature around +13..+16.

Afternoon stages are also sunny and temperature around +18..+20
Salou SSS Sunny since Thursday, +18..+20

Sunday
Morning stages +15..+16 little cloudy, by the way, sun rises after the stage start! No rain expected
Noon stages: just around +20, little cloudy, no rain.

So, mostly no rain on the stages but extreme storm just before rally is expected. It is likely that only gravel stages are not affected by storm.

[tommeke_B]

Thanks for this very valuable info Bluuford!

[rage82]

Thanks Bluuford, hope it turns not sooo rainy tomorrow but let's wait and see.

[bearclaw]

Thank you for this important and detailed weather forecast. I’m going to rally Spain for the first time and hope the rally will not become a chaos rally with a lot of cancelled stages.

But now we are prepared that everything can happen. Hope the big storm stays a bit away.

What are your special stage plans?

we are going to
ss2 / maybe regroup / ss6 / service
SS8 / SS 11 if it’s possible to switch in time/ SS 12 / SS 15 /service
SS 16 / SS 18

[bluuford]

Thanks Bluuford, hope it turns not sooo rainy tomorrow but let's wait and see.

Latest forecast tells that gravel stages get just a fraction of rain compared to others Day 2 stages get the most and Barcelona will be the place where main cyclone and smaller cyclone meet and its is possible that planes are not flying to Barcelona tomorrow evening and night or will be delayed.

[Mintexmemory]

All seasoned travellers will be flying into Reus - any forecast for that location?

[bluuford]

All seasoned travellers will be flying into Reus - any forecast for that location?

peak is earlier, heavy rain afternoon and water mass should be the worst between 3 and 5. Over 50-60 mm is expected there in a few hours, that is 5-6 cm thick layer of water everywhere, now put that mass into motion from higher aeras, roofs etc. Nice :)

[dimviii]

Stéphane Lefebvre ‏@SLefebvreRallye

Recos du @RallyRACC avec Gilles de Turckheim, qui sera aussi avec moi au @WalesRallyGB le temps que @moreaugabin se remette sur pied ! #WRC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CufH0vPXEAAgC7j.jpg

[dck1989]

Are you able to purchase a rally programme with maps?

[Simmi]

Sounds like a confirmation from Stephane that he's doing GB. Good news!

[tommeke_B]

Sounds like a confirmation from Stephane that he's doing GB. Good news!

Or he could just do recce-only in Wales too... ;)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CujVpenWEAArU8z.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

Are you able to purchase a rally programme with maps?

Yes you can but why not down load the stage guides and itinerary maps from the Rally website?

[Nelly]

It stopped raining here at 3 o clock. And is drying up well. Hopefully that's the last of it.

[EstWRC]

no, more rain please.

[Simmi]

no, more rain please.

Haha Estonian Rain Dance - sponsored by Dmack ;)

Fingers crossed for Ott this weekend.

[MartijnS]

Recce'd all Saturday's stages today. No significant rain that would influence the state of the stages. Here in Salou it rained more. Shakedown is quite wet.

[dimviii]

no, more rain please.

imho Ott wants more rain.

[aykutbilir]

Haha Estonian Rain Dance - sponsored by Dmack ;)

Fingers crossed for Ott this weekend.

Dmack is still ugly at tarmac


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[BicioWrc]

in my opinion for friday gravel day is a lot better if is dry for Ott that start behind:)..have to start instead to rain friday night and never stop till sunday hihiih

[EstWRC]

imho Ott wants more rain.


and thats why i want it more :)

[dimviii]

and thats why i want it more :)

so why you said ''no more rain''? confused.

[EightGear]

so why you said ''no more rain''? confused.
The comma makes all the difference in this case. :)

[EstWRC]

no, more rain please...there's a comma after NO and i was referring to Nelly who didnt want more rain :)

[dimviii]

didnt see the comma.Sorry.

[bluuford]

Yeah, rain trajector shifted slightly north and to the sea, so, rally was very lucky, just some heavy rain in Salou:) Also the connection of two rainfronts took place north from Barcelona :) So, all good :) Some more rain tomorrow afternoon an likely on SSS, Salou should be nice in the morning

[rage82]

The shakedown for P1, P2 and P3 drivers is starting at 09:45 instead of 08:00 for P1 according to bulletin 3 issued on 12.10 at 19:00. So maybe a bit more time to dry the gravel part of the shakedown.

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[tc10a]

The shakedown for P1, P2 and P3 drivers is starting at 09:45 instead of 08:00 for P1 according to bulletin 3 issued on 12.10 at 19:00. So maybe a bit more time to dry the gravel part of the shakedown.

Don't think so. P1 shakedown still should start at 8. In bulletin 3
it's just an addition of the missing P1 in the regulations for the second shakedown slot for all priority cars as usual.

[rage82]

Don't think so. P1 shakedown still should start at 8. In bulletin 3
it's just an addition of the missing P1 in the regulations for the second shakedown slot for all priority cars as usual.
You are right, the shakedown is starting at 8

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[EstWRC]

first pass

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuoK9jWWcAA-ukb.jpg

[EstWRC]

Final result

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuopqSVWEAA_KQl?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BLgDTpih0g5/


small video from shakedown
https://youtu.be/ZP9yzfpUl0U

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing
‏@CitroenRacing

#WRC New gravel crew for @Craig_Breen... and we know him very well! Welcome back @MikkoWRC !! #RallyRACC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuoU1yNW8AAXdHo.jpg


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[dimviii]

Lluis F.

@DaniSordo ya lo dijo q iba a apretar a tope.....
#RallyRacc #WRC #wrcenespanol
@fernischumi

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuoQ1zkW8AAM4sF.jpg
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[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck weather! We're all going to get wet this evening

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuponOCW8AAlBIV.jpg


Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 13 λεπτάΠριν από 13 λεπτά

#tyre info: Ogier/Latvala/M-Sport/Hyundai: 4 LTX Force S4+1H
Mikkelsen: 5S
Abbring: 4S
Meeke/Breen/Al Qassimi: 3S+2H
#RallyRACC #WRC

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/ohWxXoYtQuc


http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2016/post-177-0-31943300-1476354246.jpg
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[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2016/post-177-0-48234500-1476358995.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2016/post-177-0-21044900-1476359000.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/Damien-Saulnier-Photographie-192393940920598/photos_stream?ref=page_internal


https://youtu.be/cKzb1pTLnl0

[dimviii]

michelin video
https://youtu.be/8uqN8CPSxwc

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Tomorrow's gravel stages are reported to be 100% dry at the moment. Amazing considering how much rain in Salou!


Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Belting it down at the opening stage! Forecast is for continuing heavy rain for next 2hrs.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cup6niBW8AAlpJZ.jpg

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC 5 λεπτάΠριν από 5 λεπτά

Sad to see the beautiful Plaza de España under the rain. But we can't do anything about that! We will have a rainy SSS1 tonight ☔️ #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cup8fRyW8AENkKp.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cupx6NvWIAAx1ko.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I might've known BT Sport 1 (which I get free) is showing tonights live stage... after I signed up to WRC+...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cup54fGW8AEMcp2.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

I might've known BT Sport 1 (which I get free) is showing tonights live stage... after I signed up to WRC+...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cup54fGW8AEMcp2.jpg

Which is also free

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cup_sznWIAA502Y.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqC8xMWcAAGhyU.jpg
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[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqOEGBWEAAh8p8.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuqRNxpWIAEunXs.jpg

[AL14]

Facebook live from WRC for SSS1

Finally they had a nice idea.

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/10154019031560678/

[AL14]

Can't believe it. They stopped the live and advertised WRC+.

These guys have no hope. And I've lost my hopes too.

[onemanband]

They are finally using the small window for interviews as well... Now it's only Jon Desborough.

[onemanband]

Can't believe it. They stopped the live and advertised WRC+.

These guys have no hope. And I've lost my hopes too.

I don't understand it... WRC+ is free also, why do it?

[A FONDO]

Meeke's run https://streamable.com/91rh

[AL14]

I don't understand it... WRC+ is free also, why do it?

It could have been a much better adv to show all the live... So that the casual people from Facebook could look at it and maybe subscribe for next event. Or just becoming aware that rally exist. But they think that interrupting a live show to someone who is attending it can be of any good...
I just don't understand... There is plenty of people who know how to communicate in 2016... And these uncompetent parasytes are working there....

[A FONDO]

Here's ACE stream if someone here is using it 29480b9e868fa66d5890ced8852b0c5e392ce7ee

[N.O.T]

Here's ACE stream if someone here is using it 29480b9e868fa66d5890ced8852b0c5e392ce7ee

It is illegal to post links like that, the forum might have legal problems. Were you born yesterday ?

[A FONDO]

There's nothing illegal you useless snail.

[A FONDO]

Neuville pushing https://streamable.com/aczv

[N.O.T]

There's nothing illegal you useless snail.

its a stream from a service you have to pay to watch and it is illegal.

[A FONDO]

And finally the Master draws piece of art on the streets of Barcelona. He was even in a good mood at the end, saying "It was not so bad" when told that the rain was less for the faster guys before him :D

https://streamable.com/annk

[PLuto]

Is here anyone who liked that superstage in Barcelona?

[dimviii]

Is here anyone who liked that superstage in Barcelona?

worst stage ever? maybe.

[BigWorm]

Is here anyone who liked that superstage in Barcelona?

Julian Porter seemed to love it

[RS]

Is here anyone who liked that superstage in Barcelona?

Jan Kopecky?

[Mariusz]

Is here anyone who liked that superstage in Barcelona?

Ott Tanak for sure. Bertelli should also not feel bad about it.

[dimviii]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1492


http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1491

[EstWRC]

A lot of rain on Saturday and Sunday please

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What went on with Latvala ?? He looked quick and was aggressive but the time was nowhere. :(

Overdriving maybe, but that was a huge time loss..

[BigWorm]

He was happy with the time as well. Quite worrying, the conditions didn't look worse for him than for Ogier. And Ogier was on hard tyres so if JML was on softs it makes the time even worse.

[MartijnS]

So anything known yet whether they will drive with 2 or 3 minute gaps tomorrow?

[PLuto]

So anything known yet whether they will drive with 2 or 3 minute gaps tomorrow?

Start list for tomorrow is available for few hours - https://rally-base.com/2016/rally-catalunya-2016/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=720

[tc10a]

What went on with Latvala ?? He looked quick and was aggressive but the time was nowhere. :(
Overdriving maybe, but that was a huge time loss..

Did you see his braking? Didn't look fast at all...wild, but not fast.
3 or 4 braking points for one corner. Very strange.

[MartijnS]

Thanks!

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki ‏@HartusvuoriWRC

SS1 #Barcelona was 3rd slowest stage of the current 1.6 litre #WRC era. @OttTanak mastered wet conditions with average speed of 50,6 km/h.

[AL14]

I know it's just statistic crap but... Is DMACK leading WRC rally for the first time?

[kure91]

AL14, you seem to quicky forget this year Rajd Polski, where Ott was in lead after leg 1 and also after leg 2.

[dimviii]

I know it's just statistic crap but... Is DMACK leading WRC rally for the first time?

shame on you!! http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/protest.gif http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/omg.gif

[Augury]

Also led after stage 1 in Finland.

[EstWRC]

it is for third time this season that Dmack and Tänak is leading the rally...Poland, Finland and now Spain...followed by Wales and Australia in the future

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good run by Tanak tonight, but the fact that Bertelli was 2nd (beating Ogier !) shows having the better conditions had more to do with it...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It got even wetter...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuq0PGoXgAAFNA1.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

I know it's just statistic crap but... Is DMACK leading WRC rally for the first time?

You want to bring the wrath of the dear leader upon you kid ?

[AL14]

lol, I had completely forgotten Poland

Yes I admit: shame on me. :D

[litifeta]

I know it's just statistic crap but... Is DMACK leading WRC rally for the first time?

As someone who makes their living from analysis, I get a little frustrated with this sort of comment. When you say 'statistic crap' you are in fact referring to an instance of a 'fact'. Whether that fact means anything requires more work. Just because someone is 'crap' at the other work does not mean everyone is crap at the the other work. Generally the DMACK instance would be evaluated a number of ways. First off there is the basic. An event occurring 8 times means there is less than 0.5% this is a random or chance event. Second, single values on their own offer very little to analyse. It would be much better to have the ratio of one value to another value, and then compare. Just sayin.

[N.O.T]

You are upsetting people on so many different levels AL that i start to become jealous of you.

[stefanvv]

As someone who makes their living from analysis, I get a little frustrated with this sort of comment. When you say 'statistic crap' you are in fact referring to an instance of a 'fact'. Whether that fact means anything requires more work. Just because someone is 'crap' at the other work does not mean everyone is crap at the the other work. Generally the DMACK instance would be evaluated a number of ways. First off there is the basic. An event occurring 8 times means there is less than 0.5% this is a random or chance event. Second, single values on their own offer very little to analyse. It would be much better to have the ratio of one value to another value, and then compare. Just sayin.

It would be much simpler to say which are the circumstances - the weather, the running order, Tanak driving skills.... whatever.

[KKS]

Such a wild and crazy shakedown (tnx dimviii (http://www.motorsportforums.com/member.php?17895-dimviii) for sharing videos) and super booring first stage :(

[smokingjoe]

Good run by Tanak tonight, but the fact that Bertelli was 2nd (beating Ogier !) shows having the better conditions had more to do with it...

Are u in barcelona??
Please define difference in running order conditions,thanks

[TheFlyingTuga]

Are u in barcelona??
Please define difference in running order conditions,thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQtz7QAuxvM

Defined...

[smokingjoe]

Nice clip, tugga.
Standing water was an issue for everyone, and that clip was a small tidbit of the LIVE conditions

[wwbroe]

Makes the time set by Kopecky even more amazing:)

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQtz7QAuxvM

Defined...

Also here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuKl_iPQfJ0 At the beginning some people do not even have umbrellas. After 3:06 it becomes proper sailing, not driving. And see the poor 2wheel Reno at 4:00.

[bluuford]

Pretty proper rain on morning stages. Still continues for some more time.

[Tauri_J]

You guys are sounding like Tänak had a massive advantage.

Meeke who we know as a very fast guy was right after Tänak and had a slow time. Also Bertelli was on Pirelli's, we have seen them before work very well on wet conditions.

[RS]

Makes the time set by Kopecky even more amazing:)

I almost wonder if he didn't go around the hay bale but i guess somebody would have noticed.

The Skodas tend to be very good on the slow superspecials due to very good torque I suppose.

[er88]

You guys are sounding like Tänak had a massive advantage.

Meeke who we know as a very fast guy was right after Tänak and had a slow time. Also Bertelli was on Pirelli's, we have seen them before work very well on wet conditions.
Not taking anything away from Tanak, but Meeke is always terrible on micky mouse stages.

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[SubaruNorway]

Not taking anything away from Tanak, but Meeke is always terrible on micky mouse stages.

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Both he and Breen had a hard on, no Wonder they were slow....

[Tauri_J]

Tänak was on hards too.

[EightGear]

Meh, rain. Congrats to Ogier I guess.

[EightGear]

Why is the timing not working...?

[Tauri_J]

Why is the timing not working...?

works very well

[AL14]

Oh kris...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke with a problem.. :(

[EightGear]

works very well
Not on the app.

[EstWRC]

why you rain came now? nahhhhhhhh

[EstWRC]

Meeke has been off or rolled

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke rolled it !

[Eric]

Meeke rolled.. :mad:

[Rallyper]

Ohoh... Man!

[WUff1]

Split times for SS2 stopped obviously - stage cancelled?

[Rallyper]

wrc.com live-results no function at all!!

[EstWRC]

Tänak still with the diff problems

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Standing water really bad... Tanak struggled even on the straights.

[WUff1]

Tänak about the same time as Meeke

[BigWorm]

Get in Thierry

As for Meeke, not surprised. He was due a roll

[er88]

Tanak saying he can't go over 3rd gear on the straights. Water causing mayhem for the late runners

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[WUff1]

Breen rather slow, too.

Obviously much worsening conditions it seems

[EstWRC]

Camilli already 40 secs down in first split.

[EstWRC]

Tänak: "The diff problem is still there but that's not the issue for now. The road is full of water and I can't go faster than third gear, even on the straights. No chance."

[BigWorm]

Well well, Latvala definitely needed that

[EightGear]

Rainy gravel rallies are the most useless rallies you dan find. Except for GB.

[KKS]

Oh what a nightmare stage for Citroen and Tanak, after so promising start tonight

[Eric]

Mads: "we are unlucky". Or just a slow driver.. :rolleyes:

[itix]

Meeke has stopped completely on the live maps now :(

Edit: moving... Seems it froze on me (wrc+ in my heart forever)

[BigWorm]

Östberg already 21 secs off the pace

Reckon MW will be fuming

[omer yetis]

meeke roll and continue

[René]

Meeke ". I came here to learn the stages but I'm not learning much today."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads: "we are unlucky". Or just a slow driver.. :rolleyes:

But ahead of the super-fast Meeke, Breen & Tanak... ;)

[BigWorm]

And now my WRC+ doesn't work. Doesn't let me sign in...

[GravelBen]

And now my WRC+ doesn't work. Doesn't let me sign in...

Same problem for me, every time I sign in it tells me to sign in again and won't let me see any content. Was working fine 10 minutes ago.

[KKS]

WRC+ works for me well. But if I choose stage4, it's only update online stage4. For SS3 must use manual updating :(

[René]

Same problem for me, every time I sign in it tells me to sign in again and won't let me see any content. Was working fine 10 minutes ago.

Try to Empty the cache of your browser

[KKS]

Try to Empty the cache of your browser
and cookies

[N.O.T]

and cookies

and system32

[GravelBen]

Cleared cookies already, clearing cache doesn't help either. Actually its only the live maps section that isn't working, it still lets me into the onboards etc.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cut9OK4WcAAGh0G.jpg

Suarez

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Same WRC+ maps problem for me... not good enough, good job its free.

[EstWRC]

WIth every stage the drivers after Latvala start to loose a big time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala is fast again !

[itix]

and system32
Or rm -rf as super user if you run Linux or Mac ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Camilli losing big time again.

[KKS]

Camilli losing big time again.
he battle with own Prokop :)

[KKS]

Ott is disaster of this rally :(

[EstWRC]

He said he has no traction, it seems to me that the Dmack's arent as good in those conditions like they themselves thought they are...not good for rally GB

[KKS]

Or it's just a road condition, that became more worse after each car

[tc10a]

Problems for Suninen in SS4

[KKS]

Suninen is stop. So it only Lappi can take a part in championship race.
Some people talk that Kopecky take part in this rallys to try grab points from Evans in France, and from Suninen here in Spain. So looks problem now is solved and WRC2 title now only in Esapekka hands.

[PLuto]

Some people talk that Kopecky take part in this rallys to try grab points from Evans in France, and from Suninen here in Spain.

Thats not completely true. All three drivers had clear programme from beginning of the season. Kopecky was on Corse only because China was cancelled.

[Mirek]

Suninen is stop. So it only Lappi can take a part in championship race.
Some people talk that Kopecky take part in this rallys to try grab points from Evans in France, and from Suninen here in Spain. So looks problem now is solved and WRC2 title now only in Esapekka hands.

That's not true. Theoretically Kopecký and Tidemand can take the title too. If they are lucky and others not.

[KKS]

Thats not completely true. All three drivers had clear programme from beginning of the season. Kopecky was on Corse only because China was cancelled.
And Lappi make GB and Australia right?


That's not true. Theoretically Kopecký and Tidemand can take the title too. If they are lucky and others not.
Theoretically - yes, but realistically - not. Only Suninen and Lappi have chances do go ahead of Evans. And Suninen ha̶v̶e̶d better chances. Need P3+P4 at two rallies. But Lappi need a win and 3rd place

[JUF]

Pierre-Louis Loubet does a good job until now, when you take his experience into consideration. A guy to watch for the future...

[KKS]

Suninen must win GB and finish at least 8th here to pass Evans
And to keep his chanses alive with Lappi (if Lappi win Aus and be 2nd at GB) must win GB and finish here 7th.

[BigWorm]

Pierre-Louis Loubet does a good job until now, when you take his experience into consideration. A guy to watch for the future...

Absolutely, everybody speaks about Kalle Rovanperä but Loubet is doing very well. Especially because he's driving the bad DS3 R5.

[KKS]

WRC freak ‏@FakeHinkelstein (https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein) 12m12 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein/status/786886897968771072)
Suninen out in Terra Alta lots of blue smoke poss turbo. @RallyRACC (https://twitter.com/RallyRACC) #wrc (https://twitter.com/hashtag/wrc?src=hash)

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[WUff1]

Veiby retired too.

[EstWRC]

Suninen mechanical then?

[Mirek]

Most likely yes. Shit happens.

[bluuford]

Rain is over now. No more rain for today:)

[KKS]

But roads must be still wet and covered of mud?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ostberg: "Heard some strange noises in the car, data indicating an issue with the diffs not working properly, without knowing exactly why." https://t.co/W61UvpKncY

[bluuford]

But roads must be still wet and covered of mud?
Surface material from videos looks silty and loamy, so, it usually takes some time to dry up. It is possible that first driver might have huge advantage on such conditions, depends on how strong the sun is.

[KKS]

Ostberg: "Heard some strange noises in the car, data indicating an issue with the diffs not working properly, without knowing exactly why." https://t.co/W61UvpKncY
same that Ott talking yesterday. Crappy Fiesta?

[bluuford]

Ogier over two seconds/km slower than frist pass? Seems that it is still very slippy

[bluuford]

31 seconds slower for 12.5 km

[KKS]

Ogier over two seconds/km slower than frist pass? Seems that it is still very slippy
if that continues at next stages - it will be interesting :)

[KKS]

JML in trouble too +52.2 on slpit oh...
I imagine what backrunners (wrc2 and RC4) doing with that mud on stages

[René]

latvala?

[AL14]

Latvala has a problem?? Really? Didn't expect from him. He's not used to this kind of stuff... Wonder what's happened.

[Jasper]

Latvala has a problem?? Really? Didn't expect from him. He's not used to this kind of stuff... Wonder what's happened.

Lost wheel :D

[bluuford]

Latvala stopped

[Mirek]

Great time for Sordo

[KKS]

tracker sometimes shows 1.2.3.5 kph and again back to 0kph for JML. Maybe stuck at trying to get out?

[dimviii]

rallytravel.com
‏@rallytravel

Severe damage visible on @thierryneuville ' s Hyundai with 100m to go to the finish of SS Caseres. @HMSGOfficial #WRC


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[KKS]

Great time for Sordo
And 1st o/a
Great time!

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

Suninen smoking video
https://twitter.com/FakeHinkelstein?lang=el

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuuoZuxWIAASGfE.jpg
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[dimviii]

here we go.....


Fri 14:54 - SS6: Ogier
He's through, and although patches of road are drying at the finish control, Ogier paints a grim picture of conditions in the stage. "Much tougher than this morning. It's not dry at all. The ruts are deeper and full of water which I'm clearing out for the cars behind."

[dimviii]

despite the difficult conditions,first 5 crews among 12,3 sec.

[René]

here we go.....


Fri 14:54 - SS6: Ogier
He's through, and although patches of road are drying at the finish control, Ogier paints a grim picture of conditions in the stage. "Much tougher than this morning. It's not dry at all. The ruts are deeper and full of water which I'm clearing out for the cars behind."

He will never stop to complain as an old woman !

[dimviii]

after Paddon now and Neuville with antilag problems.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuusC-3WgAAfFSw.jpg

[dimviii]

Sordo again faster 5,7 than Ogier.
Now 11.8 overall.


edit no split times from the useless sick dogs.

[BigWorm]

A great time in Terra Alta and Sordo could very well be on to something. Fingers crossed for him

[dimviii]

Fri 15:02 - Tyre info
Confirmation from Michelin that all of their WRC drivers have taken five soft compound tyres for the afternoon loop.

[N.O.T]

If conditions remain then on the long one we might have a massacre. which is nice.

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally 56 δευτερόλεπταΠριν από 57 δευτερόλεπτα

Update: @JariMattiWRC stopped in stage due to damaged suspension, retired. Will rejoin under rally2 regulations tomorrow #WRC #RallySpain

[KKS]

edit no split times from the useless sick dogs.
too short stage, just 6km.
It old good times splits are in each 5 km. Now they place it at each 7 km. So no splits for 6.5km stage

[KKS]

And Bertelli 4th quickest at SS5. 11.7 sec quickest then Ogier :D

[EightGear]

Oh man, what a horror season for JML.

[RS]

Nice time by Kopecky on SS5.

[dimviii]

too short stage, just 6km.
It old good times splits are in each 5 km. Now they place it at each 7 km. So no splits for 6.5km stage

so on short stages no splits.
at long stages splits dont work or have problems.
sick useless dogs.

[N.O.T]

Oh man, what a horror season for JML.

Can you name a season that it was not a horror for Latvala ? and do not use abbreviations of names, its plebeian.

[EstWRC]

Ogier 14 secs quicker in first split on Terra Alta than in the morning

[EightGear]

Can you name a season that it was not a horror for Latvala ? and do not use abbreviations of names, its plebeian.

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/5800ddd09c1a8/5800ddd08f5cc-jml.jpg

[bluuford]

Originally Posted by N.O.T

"Can you name a season that it was not a horror for Latvala ? and do not use abbreviations of names, its plebeian."


1994 was definitely better!

[KKS]

so on short stages no splits.
at long stages splits dont work or have problems.
sick useless dogs.
On wrc+ all works quite well. And now compare official splits page - same splits on both pages.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Road position and conditions playing a huge part today. Real variety of pace depending when the driver takes the stage.

Sordo making the best of it all so far. Ogier consistant as usual.

Meeke learning little of theses stages when they are in this condition.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuu0GNMWEAAMxmr.jpg:large

[denkimi]

Meeke learning little of theses stages when they are in this condition.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cuu0GNMWEAAMxmr.jpg:large
i don't see why he wouldn't be learning, they might be in the same condition next year.

[dimviii]

Meekes incar roll inside
https://youtu.be/hBJMbQ3kfIE?list=PLVyRAt2cxbxvwhlsFbOsWm8KGS3j9_a9 V

[Fast Eddie WRC]

i don't see why he wouldn't be learning, they might be in the same condition next year.

Meeke: "The heavy rain has filled the ruts and we're aquaplaning everywhere. I came here to learn the stages but I'm not learning much today."

[N.O.T]

The late runners are gaining a lot.

[KKS]

Mads up 10 sec on Nueville at 2nd split. Just another 10sec to pass him o/a

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke going well now stage is drier...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuuykFgWEAALdCa.jpg

[stefanvv]

For me it seems Paddon is throwing out of the road the water/mud

[KKS]

Well done Sordo! Another -5.2 sec

[N.O.T]

I think its not enough to win by driving with its current road position.

[dimviii]

Sordo 17 sec ahead from Ogier.
are they enough for the tarmac stages?

at wrc 2 Kopecky seems that he will have much more easier job.

[EstWRC]

and the tarmac part ate the dmack-s, lol

[N.O.T]

Sordo 17 sec ahead from Ogier.
are they enough for the tarmac stages?

at wrc 2 Kopecky seems that he will have much more easier job.

No, Sordo will run 6th tomorrow the tarmac stages are going to be gravel ones by the time he passes.

[dimviii]

No, Sordo will run 6th tomorrow the tarmac stages are going to be gravel ones by the time he passes.

imho even on clean stages wouldnt be enough this diff.

[EstWRC]

FRI 16:14 - SS7: TANAK
Looks like ninth overnight for the Estonian who has harvested more valuable tyre info for DMACK. "The surface here is dry and I've never ever felt anything that soft. It was properly cooking up everything. It was a big challenge to get through. We've had a long list of dramas today.

[KKS]

Kremer stop on road section? or just lost GPS signal?

[itix]

Pierre-Louis Loubet does a good job until now, when you take his experience into consideration. A guy to watch for the future...

I thought so already in portugal... He's also in the problematic DS3 and he seems to have the funding as well.

[itix]

No, Sordo will run 6th tomorrow the tarmac stages are going to be gravel ones by the time he passes.

Actually useful info from NOT... today is my lucky day!

[Mintexmemory]

Sordo 17 sec ahead from Ogier.
are they enough for the tarmac stages?
.

On an ordinary tarmac event Ogier could dirty up the surface from his 'first on the road' position. However, the cuts will be much softer than usual and second run is likely to be very slippy. I think it could be very close. Ogier's best approach may be keeping a very smooth line on the black stuff.

[Mirek]

Tidemand getting ahead of Kopecký in the last gravel stage. Still it's superb position for Jan for the asphalt stages.

[RS]

Tidemand getting ahead of Kopecký in the last gravel stage. Still it's superb position for Jan for the asphalt stages.

Yes, nice close and quite unexpected battle between the Skoda boys so far.

[Mirek]

Just reading that Jan broke rear suspension in the last hairpin of the stage. Hopefully he can get to service!

[dimviii]

Fri 16:42 - SS7: WRC 2 Tidemand
Tidemand is 8.7sec quicker on stage than Kopecky and takes the WRC 2 lead by 3sec. "That's okay, but it's not been a completely smooth day. I haven't been perfect, neither has the car. All good experience. Okay, rally can be complicated sometimes."

Fri 16:39 - SS7: WRC 2 Kopecky
Trouble for the leader of the WRC 2 class who completes with the rear-left wheel of his Skoda wobbling. "It happened right in the last hairpin, I slid wide and 'bump'. Hopefully I can get back okay. It's a good battle with Pontus. We are much closer to him this year."

[dimviii]

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[René]

Abbring generous https://twitter.com/fernischumi/status/786944908896514048

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Best day for Mads in a while...

Autosport:
"M-Sport's Mads Ostberg sits just outside the top five heading into Saturday in one of his most competitive days of the WRC season...despite a transmission problem pulling the car sideways under braking and acceleration..."

[AL14]

Imho Ogier will be leading before the end of saturday with or without rain.
How are the chances he will become world champion sunday?

[dupanton]

Imho Ogier will be leading before the end of saturday with or without rain.
How are the chances he will become world champion sunday?

With the current standings, he will be champion. 2nd place is normally enough for him.

[AL14]

With the current standings, he will be champion. 2nd place is normally enough for him.

Ok that maybe gives some hope to Dani then... Let's see...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Funny the OB audio of Meeke when he rolled on SS2... "Oh B*stard... B*stard... B*stard !!" :D

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing Salou, España

��All tarmac parts are ready for the biggest service of the season! #WRC #RallyRACC


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