Wrc Argentina 2016

[dimviii]

Paddon is 3 sec slower from Sordo at last split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon losing the rally here...

[onemanband]

Ogier's last split arrived. 16 sec faster than Hayden.

[arko5]

20 sec on one stage....

[dimviii]

seems that we will go to last stage with some 2-3 sec difference.Then Ogier will show who is daddy.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

2.8s lead isnt enough.

[N.O.T]

Its going to be a crazy finale...

[EightGear]

Massive respect to Ogier, no matter how much we dislike him.

[N.O.T]

Ogier is doing to the new generation of drivers what Loeb did to the previous one....

[Barreis]

Ogier wins for sure...

[dimviii]

Sun 11:42 - SS17: Paddon
Third quickest and 19.8sec down on Ogier. He still leads - but by just 2.6sec from Seb! He's gutted and almost lost for words. "A very, very rough stage. Trying to find the balance between not breaking the car... ....very hard to gauge the speed. Not much more to say."

[Mintexmemory]

Massive respect to Ogier, no matter how much we dislike him.

I think he's amazing :-p

[Rallyper]

Its going to be a crazy finale...

No.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just shows how superior Ogier is to the pretender.

[EightGear]

I think he's amazing :-p
I think he's a prick.

[denkimi]

huge time differences for 22k stage.

[N.O.T]

Paddon has to go flat out risking everything, this is the time to prove he has what it takes no matter if he wins or loses.

[Mintexmemory]

I think he's a prick.

An unbeatable one though!

[dimviii]

strange....Ligato 4th and 4,8 sec slower from Paddon.

Maybe Paddon preserves his tyres for final stage?

[focus206]

Very interesting... Will Paddon go all out and risk it? I still think he has a chance. But good job by Ogier, great push.

[stefanvv]

strange....Ligato 4th and 4,8 sec slower from Paddon.

Maybe Paddon preserves his tyres for final stage?

Probably taking care of his car after previous stage glitches.

[dimviii]

Ligato only -6,4 from Neuville for 6th position.


A terrific fourth-quickest time from the local hero who is now just 6.7sec behind Neuville in sixth. Can he catch him in El Condor? "I will see. It's a stage I know well and I feel very comfortable with this car."

[dimviii]

lol twit of the rally
------------------------------------

Thierry Neuville ‏@thierryneuville

Power Stage starts at 12:09. We will not go after the extra points, we want to secure our 6th position. #Hyundai #TN

[Mirek]

Was this photo hear? It's Al Kuwari yesterday
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/13095783_10153616445610678_6717546019522265695_n.j pg?oh=c593a347dcc53884b7908280344c15cf&oe=5774A69D

[dimviii]

no it wasnt Mirek,thanks.

[AL14]

Paddon is not taking manu points, will not have this opportunity on much more rallys this year (if he will have any), there is no point to try to secure second position, he has just to risk everything.

[N.O.T]

And here we go...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Where are you going NOT?

[Eli]

but why do we have to suffer John Desbrough???

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[janvanvurpa]

Where are you going NOT?


We could only hope....:wave:

[GravelBen]

Probably taking care of his car after previous stage glitches.

Yip, just misjudged the balance between speed and looking after the car from what he said after the stage. Experience must make a big difference with those judgements.

Ogier must have been risking car damage a lot more to push that hard on such a rough stage.

[dimviii]

Sun 12:11 - Weather update
Less cloud and fog in the opening section than earlier

[Rallyper]

He would be hero of this decade if he wins, our Hayden Paddon.

[AL14]

Latvala stopped?

[janvanvurpa]

He would be hero of this decade if he wins, our Hayden Paddon.


No he's already a hero...Whatever happens.. The boy has the right spirit and is happily a real enthusiast.
It shows... men oi oi oi hall tummarna!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Jml stopped

[Quad]

Latvala :rolleyes:

[dimviii]

Latvala stopped?
yes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0Ub4wW0AAPQT3.jpg

[Rallyper]

Puncture.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That car was fragile after the crash yesterday.

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti is working on the front left corner.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0VND4WwAAS3dT.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0VNBZWMAAxcgy.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak great on this stage...

[dimviii]

dangerous position of the car

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-55-0-39652100-1461511781.jpg

[dimviii]

Tanak great on this stage...
he had a puncture for last 7 km

[GigiGalliNo1]

In-car banter.... in Finnish... whats going on?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

he had a puncture for last 7 km

I know and still a good time.

[dodge33cymru]

All credit, this footage is excellent; no pointless interviews

Oh wait, here they are....... Grrrrr.......

[GigiGalliNo1]

yup......

I toldl a few of the WRCTV Crew to do a freaking split screen! Explained, we want to watch the LIVE footage, and throw in a little screen for the interview...

Guess not...

[dimviii]

Neuville almost 1 minute faster from morning pass with fog.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice run Mads.

[dimviii]

Ogier slower from Sordo at split 1? wtf?

[AL14]

Ogier slower from Sordo at split 1? wtf?

Lol I was wondering if it was a mistake of the splits. Maybe some little mistake?

[Rallyper]

Most exciting rally for long!!

[EightGear]

Holy shit!!

[Quad]

Paddon -10, that must be error

[GigiGalliNo1]

Paddon 8.5 seconds quicker.

[Rallyper]

Woooww!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Padonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn !!!

[N.O.T]

PADDON 9 seconds faster than Ogier !!!!!!!!

[dimviii]

Paddon -10,6 at 1st split yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!

[AL14]

Paddon 10 secs faster what the hell!

[EightGear]

8,5 guys.

[kiil]

Massive Paddon spilt!!!

[dimviii]

strange....Ligato 4th and 4,8 sec slower from Paddon.

Maybe Paddon preserves his tyres for final stage?

http://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/iconcool5lw.gif

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Damage to Ogier's car.

[Quad]

that's not error :eek:

[AL14]

Guys he's driving crazy!! Are you watching his onboard? That's insane, I don't know if he will reach the finish...

[EightGear]

I just cancelled my WRC+ two months ago and I refuse to pay even 1 euro for a month.

[Quad]

Paddon is right now throwing up Neuville from Hyundai

[USER47]

That onboard was insane, I was worrying for him in every corner.:-D

[Mintexmemory]

Cmon!!!!

[Gregor-y]

The look on Sordo's face as Ogier's time appears...

[N.O.T]

Go go goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!

[Quad]

Go PAddoooon

[Micke_VOC]

Paddon !!! :bounce:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This is incredible.

[cosmin_sb]

my streaming is stoping now :( :(

[dodge33cymru]

WRC on one side, BES on the other: motorsport at its best.

[Rallyper]

Go go goooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!

You´re human after all!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meet the new Boss. :D

[dodge33cymru]

Wow!

[N.O.T]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

LASSIE IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mintexmemory]

You´re human after all!

Hang on I wouldnt go that far!!

[kiil]

Amazing stuff, well done Paddon.

[EightGear]

Yeaahahhhhhhhh!!!

[Mk2 RS2000]

You bloody little beauty !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Goosebumps... amazing !

[N.O.T]

I have tears in my eyes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crazy !!!!!!

[RAS007]

This is how rallying should be! It's been too long since we've seen this kind of fight. Wow! Great win for Paddon!!!

[Micke_VOC]

So happy !! Paddon are my hero this weekend ( He was also my Nr 1 in the pickens =)

[stefanvv]

Meet the new Boss. :D

So true

[Gregor-y]

Fantastic finish; glad it was on in my time zone for a change.

[N.O.T]

Bring me lassie !!!!!!!!!

[dimviii]

Congrats to Paddon Kennard for a well deserved win. At least the only ones that can win even with Ogier cleaning the road.
Big respect for their strategy at last stages,and preserving tyres for a fantastic drive at last stage.
He wrote history at New Zealand at least.

[Rallyper]

No Hollywood movie could make this better!! Well done Hayden!!!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Congrats!!!!

[smokingjoe]

well that was worth getting out of bed for.

congradulations Hayden Paddon

[stefanvv]

Congrats for Paddon's historic win. Can't blame Ogier tried the impossible and probably already destroyed his tyres.

[dimviii]

Bring me lassie !!!!!!!!!

what this f@cken lassie?

[janvanvurpa]

So happy !! Paddon are my hero this weekend ( He was also my Nr 1 in the pickens =)


He's surely on a roll..been saying that for a year now. You can feel the energy even on a little screen..
Grattis Haydon!

[Quad]

that must have hurt Ogier :p

[Robbo]

Fanbloodytastic, simply simply outstanding.

[GravelBen]

That was one hell of a drive through that last stage! Legend.

[N.O.T]

what this f@cken lassie?

dinner !!!!!!

[Mintexmemory]

This is a proper win and not a 'Gimme'. Hope the confidence he gets from this will mean we get lots of Sundays like this for the rest of the year.
Well done Haydon and John - a that hard work has paid off!

[EightGear]

what this f@cken lassie?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/411ea52caddc806af84c949f7816009b.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0ba5sWIAEL_1h.jpg:large


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0bxR2W4AEIkTR.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/411ea52caddc806af84c949f7816009b.jpg

Delicious !!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosintang

[Eli]

well done Paddon!!!!! you certainly showed him who's boss!!!! Great drive:) well done!!!! an earned wearthy victory!!!

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[GigiGalliNo1]

I have tears in my eyes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Crazy !!!!!!

Real emotion NOT?

[Mirek]

Yessss! Sadly I missed the finale but it's great to see Paddon winning!

[Mintexmemory]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160424/411ea52caddc806af84c949f7816009b.jpg

I think the Korean menu gag has gone far enough now
Remember a dog isn't just for Christmas but makes a great celebration meal at any other festive occasion!!

[satnav]

Stunning last stage ,
just seen on twitter there was 182 days between Meeke and Mikkelsen winning their first WRC Round and its 182 days since Mikkelsen won

[GigiGalliNo1]

:D

[dimviii]

krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke

. @rallyargentina provides another classic! Congrats @HaydenPaddon and @JKCoDriver on your maiden win. That was a proper one! #chapeau

[N.O.T]

Boiled alive, Shut up dickhead.

how can you be like that on such a nice day for the sport ????

[skarderud]

Congrats to hayden and hyundai!

Quite fun that this Ole he is thanking in the stage end intervju with Molly, is our own lundefaret and his "nose end first" thing.
Thats something :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

how can you be like that on such a nice day for the sport ????

Ditto.

[GravelBen]

Thats winning in style too, coming into the last stage with a fairly tight margin and destroying everyone by 11+ seconds.

[dimviii]

"I almost can't believe it. I gave that stage absolutely everything! Huge thanks to everyone - and especially people following at home in New Zealand. I've been preparing for this stage for three weeks. In the past the tight and twisty stuff really didn't suit me. I didn't think we had a chance - today I just drove the wheels off. We're going to win a lot more with this car."

[EightGear]

How would Neuville feel? :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

“Can’t believe it! Drove the wheels off the car. Huge amount of work has gone into this - and there’s more to come!”

Awesome, truly awesome.

[Mk2 RS2000]

4.00am in New Zealand and facebook has gone made as those who made it through the night celebrate

[N.O.T]

ON YOUR KNEES DOGS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJuXKeiM4_0

GO PADDON !!!! GO HYUNDAI !!!!

[Mirek]

Neither that interesting not exciting as Padon's victory but notice that the only Pug R5 in the rally finished without major technical problems. That's quite an unusual thing.

[dimviii]

Sun 13:02 - SS18: John Kennard
Hayden's co-driver gives his verdict. "Stunning. Hayden will be a World Rally Champion."

[SubaruNorway]

It's been a long time since a victory felt so sweet :)

Cool of him giving creds to the Nose End First guy from Norway, Ole Martin Lundefaret :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Aw no, he knocked Mads down to 3rd in the WDC... ;)

[AL14]

Congrats to hayden and hyundai!

Quite fun that this Ole he is thanking in the stage end intervju with Molly, is our own lundefaret and his "nose end first" thing.
Thats something :)

Is it true? I didn't hear him thanking any Ole... but I have a problem listening to Paddon, his newzealand accent is too difficult to understand

[N.O.T]

Neither that interesting not exciting as Padon's victory but notice that the only Pug R5 in the rally finished without major technical problems. That's quite an unusual thing.

put a taxi driver in any car and it won't have any problems either.

[Mintexmemory]

Is it true? I didn't hear him thanking any Ole... but I have a problem listening to Paddon, his newzealand accent is too difficult to understand

I believe he isn't able to pick up the meaning of Sardenglish !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Congrats coming in from every driver / team... except Ogier...

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/s851x315/13055428_10209695600765977_4176212335421981846_n.j pg?oh=c161f090083c27262da74b57f1cd13f2&oe=57A8B314

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0freFWkAA-NoN.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0cmeTWgAAqpvO.jpg

[Lundefaret]

Is it true? I didn't hear him thanking any Ole... but I have a problem listening to Paddon, his newzealand accent is too difficult to understand

Its quite true :)
We have been working very hard together since just after Sweden, but I am not going to steal his thunder, he is an extremly commited and highly intelligent individual, and this have moved on A LOT faster that I tought possible.
Mexico was introduction, Otago we worked on a number of things, and this is the first rally we wanted to push a little. We focused VERY hard on El Condor, and i mean VERY hard.
But I must say, his driving on El Condor just blew my mind, he is just incredible! :)
And hopefully I will enjoy working with him a lot in the future.
But I must say, a BIG, BIG thanks to Olav Bodilsen who spent over 4 years tutoring me in this. I dont even know half of what he does, so thanks Olav :)

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/13077013_10153377091936901_5807969244655400686_n.j pg?oh=a87a283935e89704112dbcd22eb71dfa&oe=57BD13EB

[dimviii]

Mikko Hirvonen ‏@MikkoWRC

Congrats @HaydenPaddon & @JKCoDriver ! Fantastic drive! Nobody can take this away from you.You really earned it! #NewGenerationIsComing #WRC

[GravelBen]

4:20am in NZ now, I think its time for bed! Glad its a holiday and I can sleep in, but that was worth staying up to see.

[Mintexmemory]

Hyundai with 3 cars in the top 6 - VW have a fight for constructors championship at last if Thierry can find that lost mojo

[janvanvurpa]

It's been a long time since a victory felt so sweet :)

Cool of him giving creds to the Nose End First guy from Norway, Ole Martin Lundefaret :)


Lundis is a smart feller...and he's right..The path to the top in Rally is totally ad hoc..Very unsystematic, very presumptive, not at all professional..
Let's hope he hammers away at the book he's chipping away at.

[dimviii]

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

YESS a WRC victory!! Huge thanks to everyone for their support & @HMSGOfficial. Incredible feeling. Champagne time

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg0jPUgVEAApWuR.jpg:large

[Lundefaret]

Lundis is a smart feller...and he's right..The path to the top in Rally is totally ad hoc..Very unsystematic, very presumptive, not at all professional..
Let's hope he hammers away at the book he's chipping away at.

Hehe :)

I do, but I think it just got a little bit more difficult to get an interview from Ogier :)

[EstWRC]

this was a great rally and Paddon...wow...just wow. i dont even have words for this. im very happy for Lundefaret too :)

[dimviii]

Neither that interesting not exciting as Padon's victory but notice that the only Pug R5 in the rally finished without major technical problems. That's quite an unusual thing.

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/01/05/12/Rallye_Argentinien_2016_047_1051270_571b23b8.jpg

[Nornbugger]

Stunning last stage ,
just seen on twitter there was 182 days between Meeke and Mikkelsen winning their first WRC Round and its 182 days since Mikkelsen won

Maybe, but this win is much, much, more impressive, the final stage will leave Ogier with something to think over for a while. Delighted for Paddon, but what next for Neuville though? And Latvala, both are wasteing seats as much as Camilli is.

And well done Mr Lundefaret too, I think there'll be a few of us reading your posts with more respect now!

[Lundefaret]

Maybe, but this win is much, much, more impressive, the final stage will leave Ogier with something to think over for a while. Delighted for Paddon, but what next for Neuville though? And Latvala, both are wasteing seats as much as Camilli is.

And well done Mr Lundefaret too, I think there'll be a few of us reading your posts with more respect now!

Please dont have any more respect, takes out all the fun :)

[N.O.T]

Please dont have any more respect, takes out all the fun :)

I will not, do not worry.

[Lundefaret]

Its good to have someone you know you can trust :)

[Francis44]

Congrats Paddon and Kennard, absolutely deserved it :).

[seb_sh]

The first part of this rally started out a bit boring but the 2nd part was quite interesting. Paddon winning is the cherry on top of the cake. I have to say his drive on the last stage was one of the most amazing I have seen. Ogier looked like he was going 98%, but Paddon was at 105%!

As I was watching and listening to his pace notes I noticed he had many "action" words and descriptions of the line to take and road characteristics. It made me think of Lundefaret's posts. And then I come and read the forum and see maybe it's no coincidence.

In any case I do hope he continues at the highest level and we have many good fights in the future, however I think over a whole rally he is still behind Ogier.

[janvanvurpa]

The first part of this rally started out a bit boring but the 2nd part was quite interesting. Paddon winning is the cherry on top of the cake. I have to say his drive on the last stage was one of the most amazing I have seen. Ogier looked like he was going 98%, but Paddon was at 105%!

As I was watching and listening to his pace notes I noticed he had many "action" words and descriptions of the line to take and road characteristics. It made me think of Lundefaret's posts. And then I come and read the forum and see maybe it's no coincidence.

In any case I do hope he continues at the highest level and we have many good fights in the future, however I think over a whole rally he is still behind Ogier.


Where can poor old dinosaurs see some of this last stage in-car action? Link?

[dimviii]

In any case I do hope he continues at the highest level and we have many good fights in the future, however I think over a whole rally he is still behind Ogier.

agree! the good is that guy is steadily progressing.Hope to keep progressing and work hard as he is doing now.

That win needed for wrc,for Paddon,for Hyundai,and for all the other drivers are moaning and are happy with 4-6-8th position finish.

[dimviii]

Where can poor old dinosaurs see some of this last stage in-car action? Link?

yes.i d like to see too guys.

[N.O.T]

If WRC.com want some clicks they will upload Paddons incar from the power stage. But that would require them to have a full functioning brain.. so no big hopes.

[AL14]

If WRC.com want some clicks they will upload Paddons incar from the power stage. But that would require them to have a full functioning brain.. so no big hopes.

They will do it in two weeks with the camera staring at the rearmirror.

[N.O.T]

i have just sent this very polite email to them... i am sure they will reply.




Is there a reason why you guys do not use proper camera angles for your footage ? like for example these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia_1vVDwmkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MANBDX4Ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_czCfio9PY

you know, camera angles that actually give you a true sense of speed and not that retarded stuff you use where you see half a bonnet and the camera points to the left ??

Are you doing it because you are stupid like that and this is the best you can think of ?? or you just do not care about the product ?

Can you imagine (probably not) the exposure you could get for example after todays rally and Paddons drive on the power stage if you had 4-5 cameras on his car (full HD not that 480p crap you have) from some interesting incar and outside angles ?

Can you please try and do your job ?

Best regards.

[stefanvv]

Its quite true :)
We have been working very hard together since just after Sweden, but I am not going to steal his thunder, he is an extremly commited and highly intelligent individual, and this have moved on A LOT faster that I tought possible.
Mexico was introduction, Otago we worked on a number of things, and this is the first rally we wanted to push a little. We focused VERY hard on El Condor, and i mean VERY hard.
But I must say, his driving on El Condor just blew my mind, he is just incredible! :)
And hopefully I will enjoy working with him a lot in the future.
But I must say, a BIG, BIG thanks to Olav Bodilsen who spent over 4 years tutoring me in this. I dont even know half of what he does, so thanks Olav :)

Is there a relation to your work and his initiative to help young talents in NZ? Congratulations for this success story!

[SubaruNorway]

If WRC.com want some clicks they will upload Paddons incar from the power stage. But that would require them to have a full functioning brain.. so no big hopes.

It's out now

[dimviii]

It's out now

link?

[Eli]

wow, I just checked it ewrc and it took Hayden only 23 outings in the WRC with a WorldRallyCar to take his first victory. Only Loeb (10) and Ogier (19) managed to better that..quite impressive I would say imho...

[Rallyper]

i have just sent this very polite email to them... i am sure they will reply.




Is there a reason why you guys do not use proper camera angles for your footage ? like for example these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia_1vVDwmkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MANBDX4Ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_czCfio9PY

you know, camera angles that actually give you a true sense of speed and not that retarded stuff you use where you see half a bonnet and the camera points to the left ??

Are you doing it because you are stupid like that and this is the best you can think of ?? or you just do not care about the product ?

Can you imagine (probably not) the exposure you could get for example after todays rally and Paddons drive on the power stage if you had 4-5 cameras on his car (full HD not that 480p crap you have) from some interesting incar and outside angles ?

Can you please try and do your job ?

Best regards.

Polite? :) :)

[N.O.T]

Polite? :) :)

i tried...

[itix]

Best. Rally. Ever!

[N.O.T]

Best. Rally. Ever!

well no... but one to remember.

[itix]

well no... but one to remember.

I'm pretty sure my rally mug has bite marks in it now.

[SubaruNorway]

link?

wrc+

[Sulland]

Also well talentspotting by Nandan & Co to dare to take Paddon amd give him time.

Cool that Bodilsens philosophy show potential. Lundefaret is a good dedicated Nose End coach, and hos brother a good PT!

[dimviii]

wrc+

you have to pay?

[N.O.T]

you have to pay?

yes. but usually they release them on youtube after 3-4 days as well.

[stefanvv]

wrc+

the pov camera is bit boring, but fx is worth watching, it eats the rocks for breakfast - literally.

[dimviii]

yes. but usually they release them on youtube after 3-4 days as well.

i am not going to pay this useless sick dogs.

[WUff1]

Paddon will be world champion some time, he´s a bit like Michael Schuhmacher in F1 was, he doesn´t avoid arguments with other drivers, sometimes he even provokes them (This time Ogier, also with Neuville some time ago). That´s winning genes.

[N.O.T]

Paddon will be world champion some time, he´s a bit like Michael Schuhmacher in F1 was, he doesn´t avoid arguments with other drivers, sometimes he even provokes them (This time Ogier, also with Neuville some time ago). That´s winning genes.

It is a great win but lets not over estimate the situation... he definately shows he has potential but this is rallying and Ogier is still the top dog.

[Lundefaret]

Is there a relation to your work and his initiative to help young talents in NZ? Congratulations for this success story!

Hello stefanvv:

Not at the present, and we haven't discussed it, but both Hayden and me wants to work for recruitment to the sport we love, so I hope we can do something together around this also. But he also has a great gang around him in NZ, (some of them are on this forum), so they already have some great plans :)

[danon]

A huge BRAVO to Paddon and Kennard!

http://i.giphy.com/xT1XGGMbYXzE3gVldK.gif

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/uploads/pics/Paddon-vs-Ogier.jpg

[dimviii]

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC

In the Power Stage, a track rod broke on our car, but we still made it to the finish & picked up 2 points. #RallyArgentina #WRC

[Mintexmemory]

So what was the argument Paddon had with Ogier?

[dimviii]

So what was the argument Paddon had with Ogier?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123952/ogier-and-paddon-argue-over-running-order

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

i have just sent this very polite email to them... i am sure they will reply.




Is there a reason why you guys do not use proper camera angles for your footage ? like for example these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia_1vVDwmkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0MANBDX4Ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_czCfio9PY

you know, camera angles that actually give you a true sense of speed and not that retarded stuff you use where you see half a bonnet and the camera points to the left ??

Are you doing it because you are stupid like that and this is the best you can think of ?? or you just do not care about the product ?

Can you imagine (probably not) the exposure you could get for example after todays rally and Paddons drive on the power stage if you had 4-5 cameras on his car (full HD not that 480p crap you have) from some interesting incar and outside angles ?

Can you please try and do your job ?

Best regards.
Even Italian Rally Championship has a better onboard view..

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[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

yes. but usually they release them on youtube after 3-4 days as well.
Except for the first two events

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[Mintexmemory]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/123952/ogier-and-paddon-argue-over-running-order

Thanks Dim - looks like someone finally gets inside Seb's head like he's done to everyone else for the last 3 years!! Way to go Haydon!!

[bowler]

Thanks Dim - looks like someone finally gets inside Seb's head like he's done to everyone else for the last 3 years!! Way to go Haydon!!

Agree

[dimviii]

borl video the race
https://youtu.be/pUOG_snHc2M

[Mk2 RS2000]

The schoolboy who started here

[dimviii]

The schoolboy who started here

the way this guy has climbed the wrc ladder differs from many todays wrc drivers.
Big respect just for that.

[Rally Power]

Almost 15m reading all yours posts. Best way to get to know everyting on Paddon/Kennard amazing win. The final stage charge it’s really an epic achievement. Congrats to Lundefaret: you have to be proud on helping a future WRC champ getting there!

Also amazed with the i20 reliability. They’ve managed to improve a lot and after winning in the most though WRC rally, the car is now ready to win in any (gravel) event. It’s great to see that this season won’t be a walk in the park for VW’s guys and, hopefully, in Portugal Meeke will also be in the fight.

[drewbud]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/uploads/pics/Paddon-vs-Ogier.jpg[/QUOTE]

Hayden: "What?"

[Mk2 RS2000]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/uploads/pics/Paddon-vs-Ogier.jpg

Hayden: "What?"[/QUOTE]

Hayden: "So what about when you are first on the road on tarmac events taking cuts, throwing rocks, mud and grass onto the racing line for the rest of us to struggle with?"

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Hayden: "So what about when you are first on the road on tarmac events taking cuts, throwing rocks, mud and grass onto the racing line for the rest of us to struggle with?"
Seb. O: "......."

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[Maui J.]

Finally!!!
I've been following WRC for 39 years, Rally NZ '77 was my first, and at long last a WRC victory by a Kiwi driver.
That last stage was amazing.
Well done Hayden & John.
Watched them at Rally Otago a few weeks ago in the i30 AP4 and just knew something special was about to come soon.
Yay!!!!!!!!

[raybak]

Well done to Paddon and Kennard. Great effort by Hyundai with the ability to give Hayden a winning car.

There will be some serious talent coming out of NZ in the next few years with Paddons efforts in the WRC giving the sport even more momentum.

There seems to be more younger competitors in NZ than I have seen elsewhere in the world, maybe it's the chance to buy cheap gray imports 4wd's such as GC8 Subaru's and EVO 6's and chuck a cage in it and go rallying. Also having the best roads in the rally world helps as well.

Ray

[litifeta]

might be an early call. I think Hyundai now have a serious contender of a car, with only the individual brilliance of Ogier the difference.

[Toyoda]

Its quite true :)
We have been working very hard together since just after Sweden, but I am not going to steal his thunder, he is an extremly commited and highly intelligent individual, and this have moved on A LOT faster that I tought possible.
Mexico was introduction, Otago we worked on a number of things, and this is the first rally we wanted to push a little. We focused VERY hard on El Condor, and i mean VERY hard.
But I must say, his driving on El Condor just blew my mind, he is just incredible! :)
And hopefully I will enjoy working with him a lot in the future.
But I must say, a BIG, BIG thanks to Olav Bodilsen who spent over 4 years tutoring me in this. I dont even know half of what he does, so thanks Olav :)

Thats awesome!!

Funny enough I facebook messaged Hayden (and he replied) about your thread in April 15, 2014 hoping he would get in touch, So stoked for you and Hayden and as a massive fan of Paddon since he start in the NZRC I appreciate your work immensely Lundefaret

[EstWRC]

Ostberg off in the fog https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/status/724371669134000128

[bluuford]

Quite big impact from slow speed. By the way, there should be over 20 cm of snow and -10 degrees tonight! Proper winter conditions, I would like to see some pictures from that!

[itix]

Please dont have any more respect, takes out all the fun :)

Don't worry, you're still wrong on space frames!

[Mirek]

Accident of Al-Kuwari on the video: https://youtu.be/t_ykIz8lyOQ

[EightGear]

Lundefaret is becoming famous.

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/april-2016/paddon-reflects/page/3491--12-12-.html

[Lundefaret]

Thats awesome!!

Funny enough I facebook messaged Hayden (and he replied) about your thread in April 15, 2014 hoping he would get in touch, So stoked for you and Hayden and as a massive fan of Paddon since he start in the NZRC I appreciate your work immensely Lundefaret

Well, than I am very thankful to you, because when I contacted him (also on Facebook actually), he knew more about what I was on about than I expected :) So a big thank you! :)

[Lundefaret]

Don't worry, you're still wrong on space frames!

Hehe :)
In New Zealand they both have a space frame car and the new AP4 regulation, and I like both concepts. And I actually think AP4 should be made "official" by FIA being the standard for nationally homologating 4WD veichles.
But thats a bit off topic :)

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Hehe :)
In New Zealand they both have a space frame car and the new AP4 regulation, and I like both concepts. And I actually think AP4 should be made "official" by FIA being the standard for nationally homologating 4WD veichles.
But thats a bit off topic :)
We have AP4 thread..

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[JakefromWRC]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who was shocked when I saw Latvala's crash.

[N.O.T]

Please tell me I'm not the only one who was shocked when I saw Latvala's crash.

are you ok now ?

[stefanvv]

May be You should ask Latvala?!?

[JakefromWRC]

are you ok now ? Yeah I'm good. It just surprised me that's all.

[SubaruNorway]

I didn't notice this before but cool that you can watch the split in real time when comparing two drivers on WRC+
Paddon gains quite a bit on the fast combinations from what i can see.

[itix]

Yeah I'm good. It just surprised me that's all.
You clearly haven't met the local forum retard/bully. He didn't seriously ask of you are OK unfortunately. He was 100 percent sarcastic (in the sense that Latvala crashing is the norm for him... Which I can kinda agree with even though I have a soft spot for Latvala).

We like NOT sometimes... Occasionally... Every now and then, but in between there he is annoying as F.

Might as well get used to it because it isn't the last bit of sarcasm you'll see from him.

[N.O.T]

You clearly haven't met the local forum retard/bully. He didn't seriously ask of you are OK unfortunately. He was 100 percent sarcastic (in the sense that Latvala crashing is the norm for him... Which I can kinda agree with even though I have a soft spot for Latvala).

We like NOT sometimes... Occasionally... Every now and then, but in between there he is annoying as F.

Might as well get used to it because it isn't the last bit of sarcasm you'll see from him.

hello mr party crasher...

[JakefromWRC]

You clearly haven't met the local forum retard/bully. He didn't seriously ask of you are OK unfortunately. He was 100 percent sarcastic (in the sense that Latvala crashing is the norm for him... Which I can kinda agree with even though I have a soft spot for Latvala).

We like NOT sometimes... Occasionally... Every now and then, but in between there he is annoying as F.

Might as well get used to it because it isn't the last bit of sarcasm you'll see from him.

Yeah I knew it was sarcasm. Its not like I had a panic attack about it.

[JakefromWRC]

You clearly haven't met the local forum retard/bully. He didn't seriously ask of you are OK unfortunately. He was 100 percent sarcastic (in the sense that Latvala crashing is the norm for him... Which I can kinda agree with even though I have a soft spot for Latvala).

We like NOT sometimes... Occasionally... Every now and then, but in between there he is annoying as F.

Might as well get used to it because it isn't the last bit of sarcasm you'll see from him.

This is my first year in the sport so I would not know a lot about Latvala.

[N.O.T]

This is my first year in the sport so I would not know a lot about Latvala.

Welcome to the fantastic sport of rallying then !!!

[itix]

hello mr party crasher...
For you, always <3

[itix]

This is my first year in the sport so I would not know a lot about Latvala.
Welcome from me too! NOT is right, best sport on the planet!

[Mk2 RS2000]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quHYMHXGScU

The final stage as seen from the front bumper

[AL14]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quHYMHXGScU

The final stage as seen from the front bumper

I want to cry

[AL14]

They're putting cameras in every inch of the cars, every possible place except the right one. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

[itix]

I don't mind bumper cameras... But between the driver and the co-driver is definitely the best.

I wonder if it is safety implications that hinders them... Like if the car crash the camera won't hit either occupant in the car...

[Barreis]

What kind of safety implications could be?! Camera could hit them only in the helmets. Then what about go-pro infront of them? It could hit them right in the face...

[Nornbugger]

What kind of safety implications could be?! Camera could hit them only in the helmets. Then what about go-pro infront of them? It could hit them right in the face...

Seriously? There are a lot of things elf and safety had better remove from the cars if a small well mounted camera is going to be a problem

[GigiGalliNo1]

Have you not see the types of camera's they use in WRCars????? They will not dismount and hit someone/driver/co-driver in the face or hit their helmet....
!

[Barreis]

It's all academic. They don't want to give us a proper view...

[AL14]

Here are Ogier and Ingrassia's declaration after saturday.
http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_le-gros-coup-de-gueule-de-sebastien-ogier-et-julien-ingrassia?id=9278213

It's in french language unfortunately.

I just report this sentence from Ingrassia.
"On the second pass in the stage, the 25 cars of the national rally, Ford Ka, small "yoghurt pots" have brought the loose gravel, stones, our "lines" because they do not have all the same path as the WRC. The first on the road must redo these lines then. Later, for the following on the road, it's immediately a fine line. "

Now I fully understand Paddon.
These guys are so unrespectful. Describing other competitors as drivers of "yoghurt pots", who maybe have worked a whole year to fullfill the dream to drive in the WRC round it's just stupid.

I hope we will get rid of them both as soon as possible.

[spyros]

Now I fully understand Paddon.
These guys are so unrespectful. Describing other competitors as drivers of "yoghurt pots", who maybe have worked a whole year to fullfill the dream to drive in the WRC round it's just stupid.

I hope we will get rid of them both as soon as possible.[/QUOTE]



Well said mate.

[RS]

Some may find Ogier's complaining distasteful but he is essentially correct.

Would his competitors also not prefer to beat him on a level playing field?

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quHYMHXGScU

The final stage as seen from the front bumper

useless video^^^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4lZMk2Ft44

[dimviii]

Some may find Ogier's complaining distasteful but he is essentially correct.

Would his competitors also not prefer to beat him on a level playing field?

i dont remember Ogier and Ingrassia complaining for road positions when Loeb cleaning the road for years,for them.
i just remember Ogier at an interview when was first at road that he was trying to make dirty the roads for the next crews.
Or i dont remember right?

[RS]

i dont remember Ogier and Ingrassia complaining for road positions when Loeb cleaning the road for years,for them.
i just remember Ogier at an interview when was first at road that he was trying to make dirty the roads for the next crews.
Or i dont remember right?

I'm not defending Ogier, I'm just saying as a rallying fan I would like to see a level playing field instead of the current way which artificially makes a closer battle for rally and championship wins.

[dimviii]

i didnt wrote it for you RS.
just for some guys who forget

[Franky]

Logically it is a level playing field, because the second fastest finisher in the championship starts right after him.

[arq.diogo]

My best take https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5h_SCV9u3M

[dimviii]

nice! havent you got from rest drivers?


Henning sleeping beside an emergency exit door lol

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2016/post-533-0-21799600-1461682839.jpg

[dimviii]

for bluufords request

Gary Boyd ‏@KiwiWRCfan 1 ώραΠριν από 1 ώρα

Predicted snow has arrived in el Condor-Copina but 2 days after #WRC was in town
photo by @JuanLuisGarciaC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg-c087W0AA1Vny.jpg:large

[AL14]

I'm not defending Ogier, I'm just saying as a rallying fan I would like to see a level playing field instead of the current way which artificially makes a closer battle for rally and championship wins.
About road position issue I do agree with you. 2014 regs were the best scenario imho. Now the first in the road is too much disadvantaged and has no chance to win, even if he is in another level like Ogier. And that's not good because the best has to win. The same goes for when he is advantaged but it is on much less rallies. He has a point and I don't deny it.

About Ogier as person instead, the discussion is different because is ok if you don't agree with regs but if you become a douchebag and disrespectful guy, if you only talk about your disadvantage every time in any occasion, if you describe other rally cars as a yoghurt pots, you don't know what rally is about and you just are a little man who nobody wants to have something with.
I repeat, the sooner he goes away the better. Loeb was winning all the time but I would never wished him to leave WRC.

[N.O.T]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quHYMHXGScU

The final stage as seen from the front bumper

what a nice camera angle its like watching a little RC car go through the stage...



Ohhh my results from the clinic are back....

Its cancer....

[N.O.T]

i have just send them another really polite email since they did not answer my previous one

hello again

were you guys bullied at school and try to retaliate on wrc fans by those stupid camera angles on the on board footage ? why a bumper cam you complete incompetent sorry excuses of a the human species ? what a bumper cam has to offer apart from making feels like really fast snakes ??? are you people retarded ? DO YOUR JOB or hire someone to do it for you.

Best Regards

[EightGear]

The normal shitty cam is still an option though, bumper cam is just an extra.

[stefanvv]

I like bumper cams, as any other non-standard view, but this doesn't include pov cams they present, this isn't (P)oint(O)f(V)iew, they should call it something else (spider view on the glass corner for example).

[N.O.T]

I like bumper cams

http://i.imgur.com/783coxn.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/ypf_rally_argentina_2016/rmo_dsc_2621.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/ypf_rally_argentina_2016/rmo_dsc_2212.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/ypf_rally_argentina_2016/rmo_dsc_2227.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/ypf_rally_argentina_2016/rmo_dsc_2194.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/ypf_rally_argentina_2016/rmo_dsc_2239.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=27493&fotograf=256

[stefanvv]

In non-standard view I mean all weird cams (damper cam, back cam showing the dust car generates), but these should be only occasionally. POV cam should be between driver and co-driver seats, the best if the two side windows are visible as well.

[Rallyper]

Ohhh my results from the clinic are back....

Its cancer....

Nooo! Are you serious about this?

[Simmi]

With the camera stuff as well I think there's an argument that image stabilization is taking the drama out of the videos.

My biggest issue isn't always the camera angles themselves, it's just the fact that they don't reflect the speed (or the violence) of a rally car.

https://youtu.be/6OBkbLYs89I?t=8m56s - Look how fast Meeke appears to be going here, simply captured on a two-year old GoPro.

[N.O.T]

With the camera stuff as well I think there's an argument that image stabilization is taking the drama out of the videos.

My biggest issue isn't always the camera angles themselves, it's just the fact that they don't reflect the speed (or the violence) of a rally car.

https://youtu.be/6OBkbLYs89I?t=8m56s - Look how fast Meeke appears to be going here, simply captured on a two-year old GoPro.

Its all about the angle... even the chinless vagabond dog Block looks fast with the proper angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx94PMX7efY

[OldF]

Hehe :)
In New Zealand they both have a space frame car and the new AP4 regulation, and I like both concepts. And I actually think AP4 should be made "official" by FIA being the standard for nationally homologating 4WD veichles.
But thats a bit off topic :)

If not AP4 but a R4-kit will probably be next year but let’s continue in this (http://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?36011-AP4-Rally-Car) thread.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cg9N2meWMAEepwp.jpg

[Rally Power]

About road position issue I do agree with you. 2014 regs were the best scenario imho.

Yep, ’14 rules made more sense, with champ standings counting only for first day and second/third with reversed order from previous day classification. We all know that current rules were an easy way to undermine Ogier dominance. That's why he complains.

But it’s fair to say that even with a proper starting order in Argentina, Ogier wouldn’t be much faster than Latvala (the Finn has showed many times that he’s as fast as his team mate, but lacks the French consistency) and Paddon could beat him anyway. The Kiwi amazing determination was the key factor to win this one.

Btw, the i20 improvement was also crucial. In Sweden Paddon proved the car was fast, but Hyundai’s guys made a great job making it reliable, especially after Mexico troubles. After all, 2016 is becoming a fantastic WRC year.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Here is that putt in the road..

[EightGear]

Well here it is. Paddon onboard on the powerstage from inside the car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCm8eTNcBU

Edit: Or actually I should say 'mix between useless face-cam, bumper-cam and still shit incar cam.'

[Gregor-y]

The over-the-hood view isn't so bad; that's what was being shown on the live broadcast and it was pretty good at showing how hair-raising the stage was.

[N.O.T]

Well here it is. Paddon onboard on the powerstage from inside the car.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eCm8eTNcBU

Edit: Or actually I should say 'mix between useless face-cam, bumper-cam and still shit incar cam.'

i have also send them facebook messages apart from emails.... in portugal i will send a message to the radio as well but i do not know how, i will ask you people how to do ti when we get there.

I am going to be very polite.