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Tharazero1
3rd January 2016, 07:28
hi everyone, I am new here and I just saw an Williams fw16 for sale and it was an ex senna one, I just need confirmation on this as the chassis number is number 4 and is this chassis one of Ayrton senna's cars from 1994
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Rollo
3rd January 2016, 14:59
hi everyone, I am new here and I just saw an Williams fw16 for sale and it was an ex senna one, I just need confirmation on this as the chassis number is number 4 and is this chassis one of Ayrton senna's cars from 1994

I'm calling shenanigans on this. Shenanigans!

The FIA mandated changes to cars following the inquest into Senna's death at Imola. If any car survived the change from FW16 to FW16B it would have been deemed illegal.
Cars had to have changes made to the rollover hoops and airboxes as well as to the sidepods. I'm also pretty sure that bargeboards were added during the season.

Considering that Senna only raced in three races. The likelihood of him being given chassis 4 is not high. Unless you can provide photographs, I'm calling shenanigans on this.

Or in the words of Tom Magliozzi from NPR's Car Talk.... BOOOOOOOOGUS!

smsgrafica
5th January 2016, 12:57
Chassis #1 is used for the crash test. Chassis #2, #3 & #4 should've been for preseason testing, actual racing & spare car for both drivers. It could be possible that #4 was used by Senna.

Jag_Warrior
5th January 2016, 18:29
Don't take this as gospel, but I've read in a couple of different places that Senna was killed in chassis #2. If #4 was a backup or T car, then he may have shared that one with Hill and it's possible that he drove it at some point. The broker offering the car should have documentation, if that is something being claimed.

Rollo
6th January 2016, 09:44
Don't take this as gospel, but I've read in a couple of different places that Senna was killed in chassis #2.

Oh that's a good get. +1

From wiki:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Ayrton_Senna
In April 2002, Senna's FW16 chassis number 02 was returned to the Williams team.

I think that it's reasonable to suspect that Senna drove only Chassis 02. F1 cars are tailored to each driver and I don't really see engineers swapping seats and pedal sets in and out if they don't need to.

Had number 4 survived, then why wouldn't it have been rebuilt into an FW16B?

Bagwan
6th January 2016, 14:53
I suspect that the original poster might want someone to ask where he saw this car , so that he could post the link , but you guys aren't playing nice .
Shenanigans , indeed !

henners88
7th January 2016, 09:53
Chassis number 2 was destroyed by Williams once it was returned by the Italian authorities and that is well documented I believe. They have one of Hills, but I'd be surprised if one of Senna's is floating around in the private sales market.

steveaki13
11th January 2016, 09:20
will our opening poster be making a bid on it? ;)

Rollo
12th January 2016, 04:39
Well if they're already buying a Modena Lamborghini 291 and a Caterham CT03 and goodness knows what else, they must have money to burn.


If someone can sell me either XKD606 or XJ13 for a fiver, I'd be interested :D

Tazio
12th January 2016, 05:03
Well if they're already buying a Modena Lamborghini 291 and a Caterham CT03 and goodness knows what else, they must have money to burn.


If someone can sell me either XKD606 or XJ13 for a fiver, I'd be interested :D
I'm saying this is the latest iteration of Tamburello. It's about time we heard from him anyway!! :crazy:

Joao Vitor
30th April 2023, 02:58
Hi everyone.

I’m not sure about chassis #1 and 4 but I pretty sure that Senna crashed the #3. The #2 is now at Museum of Legends in Pavia, Italy. I visited the car las December. It’s in perfect shape, it has the engine, gearbox, electronics, tires, ready to race.