Pirelli tyres for 2016-2018

[Nitrodaze]

If Bernie's Pirelli handshake at Sochi is anything to go by, it would seem marginal tyres is here to stay for another three years. I just wonder if this is a welcomed news to the F1 paddock. One of the reasons that Bernie gave for his decision; which mind you seemed like a decision taken solely, and one that seem converse to the thought trend of the paddock, was that Pirelli did a good job thus far.
On closer examination, one has to say Pirelli did deliver marginal tyres that produced some interesting races. Fragility of tyres is to expected when they are produced to operate close to the edge as marginal tyres by definition are suppose to be. That said, Pirellis methods to curb dissatisfaction with the tyres, particularly when they fail as they did recently, and their special relationship with Bernie seemed to have created a problem with their relationship with some teams and drivers. How that relationship would fair in the next three years, remains to be seen. The teams and drivers hate the marginal tyres now, they shall continue to do so for the next three years. That said, Pirelli i my book did very well. But if you ask me, l would probably say bring back the Bridgestone which was simply the best tyres l have seen since l started to watch F1.

[The Black Knight]

Yeah and it has also been confirmed that the tires are here until 2019 now. I think this is unfortunate. I don't believe Pirelli are capable of producing a tire that allows drivers push to the limit and have consistent degradation. This is really what we all want. Bridgestone and Michelin have all proven that they can do that in the past. I think that were a tire war introduced with Michelin that Pirelli would be left looking very red faced and humiliated.

I think it's a shame for F1 that Pirelli are staying. I do appreciate that Pirelli state they will do what F1 wants but they haven't really done that if you look at the tires they've produced. Yes, having tires that degrade quickly is nice for the spectacle but having drivers tiptoe around gingerly so as not destroy their tires was never supposed to be part of it.

[Nitrodaze]

Yeah and it has also been confirmed that the tires are here until 2019 now. I think this is unfortunate. I don't believe Pirelli are capable of producing a tire that allows drivers push to the limit and have consistent degradation. This is really what we all want. Bridgestone and Michelin have all proven that they can do that in the past. I think that were a tire war introduced with Michelin that Pirelli would be left looking very red faced and humiliated.

I think it's a shame for F1 that Pirelli are staying. I do appreciate that Pirelli state they will do what F1 wants but they haven't really done that if you look at the tires they've produced. Yes, having tires that degrade quickly is nice for the spectacle but having drivers tiptoe around gingerly so as not destroy their tires was never supposed to be part of it.

Great point buddy, l have to agree with you. Tyres with a fixed length of life of at least half race distance that the drivers can race hard up until the pitstop window is what is desired l think. The general outlook of the Pirelli tyres has been that they degrade faster with hard driving and their performance tend to drop with each lap of wear. I think this is the aspect of the tyres that the driver may not like very much. If we look at it from this perspective, then there is some doubt that Pirelli has performed as well as Mr Ecclestone has suggested.
Lets face it, it is a monopoly situation anyway as no other serious tyre manufacturer would be interested in producing marginal tyres for F1. There is no commercial benefit in it. I cannot see Joe bloggs going to his nearest Kwikfit to purchase marginal tyres.

[Jag_Warrior]

Not to take up for Pirelli, but asking a company to make a product which will be used on a variety of chassis and tracks, and not allowing that manufacturer to test the product in real world conditions, is asking for trouble, IMO. The idea of giving Pirelli a generic "current year" F1 chassis, that it could freely use any time and as much as it wants, seems like the best approach. Whether it's Pirelli or Michelin, that should be a given.

[Bagwan]

A question that comes to mind when Michelin or Bridgestone is mentioned as a replacement tire manufacturer , is whether either have ever been asked to produce a purposefully degrading tire , as Pirelli have been .

[Nitrodaze]

A question that comes to mind when Michelin or Bridgestone is mentioned as a replacement tire manufacturer , is whether either have ever been asked to produce a purposefully degrading tire , as Pirelli have been .

As far as l can recollect, the answer is yes and their answer was no thank you. Where is the door?