Wrc Tour de Corse 2015

[Doon]

Even if there were no weather issues, there is always the looming risk that stages will be cancelled due to spectator problems; which is more of a concern now, than ever, with the safety mandates in place. So, if the organisers had split the stages, there would be 2 medium length stages to be ruined / cancelled rather than just 1 long one. Which ever way you look at it, less stages means increased risk of loosing huge mileage.

[Googol]

You are just not right. You are wrong in all of the points mentioned. :-)

Bother to explain?

[AL14]

Even if there were no weather issues, there is always the looming risk that stages will be cancelled due to spectator problems; which is more of a concern now, than ever, with the safety mandates in place. So, if the organisers had split the stages, there would be 2 medium length stages to be ruined / cancelled rather than just 1 long one. Which ever way you look at it, less stages means increased risk of loosing huge mileage.

Agree. But maybe it is better to have some variety so it could be good to have a rally with less but long stages, but it should be done in places with wider roads and with no risks that crazy spectators stay in dangerous places or that a huge amount of them goes to spectate. Also, you should give spectators the possibility to watch at least two passes per day.

[Mirek]

Agree. But maybe it is better to have some variety so it could be good to have a rally with less but long stages, but it should be done in places with wider roads and with no risks that crazy spectators stay in dangerous places or that a huge amount of them goes to spectate. Also, you should give spectators the possibility to watch at least two passes per day.

It's simple. If You want to have long stages You must have long rally to affect it least possible by cancellation of one or two.

It's not only about spectators or weather. The organizers shall also think about crews from down the field. It's not uncommon to have stages canceled due to accidents. It's definitely more common than drunk people on the road or floods. Those "nameless" crews also pay the entry fee. In this moment they are penalized by many ways - by unfair superally, by totally idiotic notional times etc. Someone shall think about them too or one day all rallies will have 25 crews like Australia this year.

[AL14]

It's simple. If You want to have long stages You must have long rally to affect it least possible by cancellation of one or two.

It's not only about spectators or weather. The organizers shall also think about crews from down the field. It's not uncommon to have stages canceled due to accidents. It's definitely more common than drunk people on the road or floods. Those "nameless" crews also pay the entry fee. In this moment they are penalized by many ways - by unfair superally, by totally idiotic notional times etc. Someone shall think about them too or one day all rallies will have 25 crews like Australia this year.

Right, I spoke about wider roads for this reason, because in narrow places (like Corsica) it is more likely that stage cancellations and notional times could happen. And yes if you want long stages you should have long rally, Corsica is barely 300kms, while other rallyes like Sardinia for example were more than 400kms with not too long stages.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any chance of live tv on SS3 ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3 earlier today !

https://twitter.com/EmyrPenlan/status/649909222965121024

https://twitter.com/EmyrPenlan/status/649909777733156864

[stefanvv]

Any chance of live tv on SS3 ?

http://foot.bsdillc.com/canalplus-sport.php says direct. That should be live now

[noel157]

Also here: http://mangaplustv.com/live-canal-plus-france-sport-canalsport-fr-en-streaming/

[tc10a]

15.45h should the stage go live now with Sebastien Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I know the links - just wondering if they could actually show live action ...

New delay for the SS3 which will start at 15.45.

[dimviii]

ss3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUMiCPWgAQJ15A.jpg

[noel157]

All Michelin crews with 5 x S5, soft.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3 - yuk !
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQTxNaMWoAAKYAm.jpg

[Franky]

Fast Eddie, it's not a ladyboy sport as one beloved member here likes to call some series.

[AL14]

ss3

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUMiCPWgAQJ15A.jpg

Without split times in the car times will be crazy (for who will see the finish)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

TV on SS3 is live ! :D

[AL14]

streets are a mess!

[EightGear]

Jees, Ogier still pushing like hell!

Latvala visibly MUCH slower.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

+11.5 Latvala !

[stefanvv]

we have the asphalt Safari now

[EightGear]

+11.5 Latvala !

Yes... At first split. Mikkelsen even slower.

[EightGear]

JML +27

Ogier is from another planet.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUTxLuWgAEkwOc.jpg:large

[dimviii]

at ss1 Prokop faster than Tanak,Lefebvre,Bouffier,Paddon.
These pirellis must work good at wet.

[rayh_mx]

JML +27

Ogier is from another planet.

I guess he's near his home

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He's off !!!

Puncture ?

[EightGear]

Ogier stopped!!

He'll probably still win the stage...

[tc10a]

Puncture for Ogier

[kookie]

Ogier - puncture:
788

[rage82]

Puncture for Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC SS3 - Split 1:
Ogier
Evans +9.6
Paddon +10.3
Latvala +11.5
Meeke +11.9
Ostberg +15.7
Mikkelsen +15.9
Tänak +16.2

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier stopped :eek:

[rayh_mx]

He got out of the car to greet their relatives

[EightGear]

Latvala now a minute ahead on split 3.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala 1min up now ...

[EightGear]

Evans going fast though, +5 on split 2 compared to +9 on split 1.

Sordo losing 2 minutes on split 1?

[thuGG]

Good splits by Evans.

[noel157]

Chopper finally up. Good news.

[GigiGalliNo1]

All stages live on TV in France but not on WRC+?

[tc10a]

WRC+ only powerstage...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubi not so fast here ...

[Doon]

Elf is flying!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans will win this stage !! :)

[Simmi]

Evans on a mission. Only person on pace with Ogier. Shame not many people able to take advantage of that puncture. They needed to put more time into him than that.

[Dug83]

Kubi not so fast here ...

Shouldn't have changed the setup

[AL14]

If he'll arrive he will lead the rally.

[omer yetis]

Also here: http://mangaplustv.com/live-canal-plus-france-sport-canalsport-fr-en-streaming/

no longer working for me? link changed or me have problems?
tks

[EightGear]

Abbring will catch Bertelli in the stage.

[Mintexmemory]

Go kris!

(just pleased he is still in the hunt! ;-))

[tc10a]

no longer working for me? link changed or me have problems?
tks

Still working for me.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It rains A LOT in Wales ! Go Elfyn ! :D

[denkimi]

i wouldn't be suprised if ogier still wins. exect for evans and ogier they all seem to drive as carefully as my mother.

its pathetic to see, they are just affraid to drive in the rain.

[Simmi]

Keeeeee-mon Elfyn!!!!!

[omer yetis]

Still working for me.
tks

[EightGear]

Abbring only 0,8 slower than Evans on split 2!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Abbring could go close !

[dimviii]

watch also Bouffier splits,almost equal

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Elfyn completes a whopping 29.1sec quicker than Mikkelsen. "It didn't feel great to be honest. I didn't feel like I was carrying enough speed.. " :eek:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Abbring now +4.0 to Evans...

[N.O.T]

The stage is drying... Prokop also on pace, nothing to do with speed.

[dimviii]

Sarrazin with nice 2nd split,Bouffier not good 2nd split.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica: 'It's fixed'.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans
Latva+22.9
Ostb+38.8
Kubica+40.3
Mikke+44.5
Meeke+47
Ogier+1:13.2
Paddon+1:14.9
Tanak+1:15.9
Sordo+1:56.6

[dimviii]

Abbring must be 2nd overall after ss3 if i have calculate right.

[tc10a]

Was there some anouncement about tomorrows SS4?
As some results pages list it already as cancelled, for example ewrc-results.com

[stefanvv]

he is, 4.2 up on Latvala

[stefanvv]

Kubica: 'It's fixed'.

No more fast & furious?

[Mirek]

WRC2 leader Tidemand reported stopped.

[EightGear]

Abbring :D

[Simmi]

Stages like today really show the power of not knowing the splits. It's great. Some guys unhappy with their times turned out to be fast. Some guys happy and then shocked to see the timesheets.

[PLuto]

Was there some anouncement about tomorrows SS4?
As some results pages list it already as cancelled, for example ewrc-results.com

No official statement yet.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great comeback by Evans after his Australia nightmare... superb.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUcZmZU8AAYmTW.jpg:large

[Rallyper]

The stage is drying... Prokop also on pace, nothing to do with speed.

Yeah, and suddenly some guys shouting about mission, and pace and everything. They are fast today bcs of certain circumstances as you say.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
The stage is drying... Prokop also on pace, nothing to do with speed.

Prokop 1m52 down on Evans, hardly 'on pace' ...

[denkimi]

Yeah, and suddenly some guys shouting about mission, and pace and everything. They are fast today bcs of certain circumstances as you say.
they why is evans almost a minute faster than tanak and kubica, who started after him?

this is only very little about the stage drying up, this is about having confidence and balls. most of them just tried not to crash, not to win the rally.

[dimviii]

Abbring :D

and overtooking Bertelli on stage.

[Simmi]

Yeah, and suddenly some guys shouting about mission, and pace and everything. They are fast today bcs of certain circumstances as you say.

Come on - credit where it's due. Stage was still soaking wet in most places. Prokop not on pace at all as previously stated. Some guys simply did a better job of judging their pace.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans also beats experienced tarmac experts, Sarrazin & Bouffier (running on the 'drying road'...) :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUdiNSXAAEm8TQ.jpg:large

[N.O.T]

Ogier can still win this and probably he will...

[Mintexmemory]

Come on - credit where it's due. Stage was still soaking wet in most places. Prokop not on pace at all as previously stated. Some guys simply did a better job of judging their pace.

It's occasions like this where the conditions negate power advantages that driver ability (not just keeping the foot planted) counts.
That said Ogier without the puncture would have been quick enough - but too many of the established drivers appear to lack the motivation to take up the challenge.
Tomorrow will be interesting!

[AL14]

Actually I'm a bit disappointed by the syndrom of cautiousness in here. Ok, the roads were a real mess but this is when you have to show some balls. I've seen few of them actually.

[Simmi]

Ogier can still win this and probably he will...

Agreed I think he absolutely can. He probably would have taken around 40 seconds out of Latvala on that last stage alone had he not punctured. Ogier will certainly hoping more stages don't get cancelled - but even then I still think he has enough in reserve.

[N.O.T]

I've seen few of them actually.

Balls ?? hmmmm...

[AL14]

Balls ?? hmmmm...

Ogier and Evans were good.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Great comeback by Evans after his Australia nightmare... superb.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUcZmZU8AAYmTW.jpg:large

Seriously need additional light, or this sh!tyy remote flash??????!!!!!!????

[N.O.T]

Ogier and Evans were good.

you are scaring me...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUuGeMWgAA14Ek.jpg

[Doon]

Evans was brilliant but the answer to his pace was probably a mixture of big bollocks and fantastic gravel crew notes. He even said his gravel crew were spot on. Who is going his gravel notes? Gwyndaf did them for a while I think?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plenty of support for the Welshman Evans may have helped his performance...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUpTTMWoAASlYC.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQUcuASWEAEzujn.png:large

[EstWRC]

Evans was brilliant but the answer to his pace was probably a mixture of big bollocks and fantastic gravel crew notes. He even said his gravel crew were spot on. Who is going his gravel notes? Gwyndaf did them for a while I think?

It is still Gwyndaf and Phil Mills. I agree with some of here that Evans and Abbring were the only ones today with balls. Paddon, Tänak and Mikkelsen just nowhere and cruised to the end of stages.

[RS]

Tidemand hit something? Suspension problems on a tarmac rally doesn't seem very likely if he didn't.

[rayh_mx]

Thierre Neuville Crash SS1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE5IrdyzYV0

[MartijnS]

Tidemand hit something? Suspension problems on a tarmac rally doesn't seem very likely if he didn't.

Yes, a rock.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BORL photo's

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[dimviii]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1395

http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1394

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQU4VxyXAAEMnLJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQU7sHoWsAU1n-A.jpg

[AL14]

you are scaring me...

Weren't they good in terms of courage in that stage? Or you thinking that when I said "balls" it was not figurative? ;)

[N.O.T]

Weren't they good in terms of courage in that stage? Or you thinking that when I said "balls" it was not figurative? ;)

aaaahh i thought it was literal...

[dimviii]

Fredrik Gustavsson ‏@

Oooops.. @SebOgier stopped on the road section with broken gearbox, trying to repair #WRC @bestofrallylive

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQVCnOkWsAAmQYN.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQVCnR0XAAASgpw.jpg

[rallyace]

I find it kind of sad that, out of all the 10,000 Corsican corners that could catch out Thierry Neuville, there was a Belgian flag placed on the one that did...

http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l561/TheBoxBreaker/Latvala%20SS1%20Tour%20de%20Corse%20Belgian%20flag _zpsx51pgbob.png (http://s1124.photobucket.com/user/TheBoxBreaker/media/Latvala%20SS1%20Tour%20de%20Corse%20Belgian%20flag _zpsx51pgbob.png.html)

(Latvala's view of the bridge before Neuville crashing out, also visible in the crash video posted by rayh_mx earlier in the thread)

[noel157]

Ogier retired on way back to SP/PF. Will restart under R2 tomorrow.

[dimviii]

borl video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFxRybXFsyo

[EightGear]

Ogier retired on way back to SP/PF. Will restart under R2 tomorrow.
So no penalty and nothing will change?

[Quad]

So no penalty and nothing will change?


I guess it's +5min for rally 2 and +5 min for every missed stage ?

[Andre Oliveira]

If the last stage, penalty is 10 min i think

[EightGear]

If the last stage, penalty is 10 min i think
Will it still count even on the road section after all stages are completed?

Edit: standings show him with a penalty now.

[N.O.T]

no hope for a win then... pity it would be nice to see him at full throttle mode.

[Mintexmemory]

Will it still count even on the road section after all stages are completed?

Edit: standings show him with a penalty now.

Yep 10 mins as though he hadn't completed the stage - He aint coming back from that, see my Pickem, I had a premonition! Didn't expect Elfyn to shine though, very good to see it. Noticeable that Breen is leading WRC 2 and Abbring has also had a great day. Anyone who remembers myprevious posting history will know how pleased I am to see that. I expect that Paddon will also beat Sordo come Sunday. This is where Mikkelsen and Tanak need to demonstrate how much of a future they have in WRC!

[N.O.T]

with Ogier out of the equation this rally will be very interesting...

[christy but]

whats the weather forecast for tomorrow?

[EstWRC]

big big opportunity for Evans now, he should take it

[RS]

Yes, a rock.

Shame (about Tidemand)

It was good he set the fastest WRC2 time on his debut asphalt stage in the Fabia R5.

[dimviii]

with Ogier out of the equation this rally will be very interesting...

Lets see if Latvala can do it.Big chance now that Ogier is out.A situation it doesnt happen often.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQVX0mPWIAAUqfr.jpg

[bluuford]

whats the weather forecast for tomorrow?
Mostl likely it will be dry, no rain. Just the water that is there from today. There is some light rain risk on SS4 and even slighter risk on SS6 but should be clear for 5. I do not know if they were able to fix SS4? It was crazy effort to run SS3 today. seems like there was some kind of sweeping effect as well :-) I am sure they find some solution for SS4 tomorrow. It runs on the side of main road. With no additional rain, they should be able to access the stage now. They can clean the debris and if possible, then they can shorten the stage or cut it in separate sections. It has at least six access roads from the main road.

Temperature will be nice also. +15..+18 in the morning (Ss4 and 5) and +17..+19 for the last one.

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/Sg9HVrmP314

[N.O.T]

will ss4 run normally ?

[BleAivano]

Tidemand hit something? Suspension problems on a tarmac rally doesn't seem very likely if he didn't.

Yes, it seems that he aquaplaned and hit a rock.


Unfortunately today didn't turn out as we hoped for. We took the lead after SS1, but with SS2 cancelled we only had one more stage to go.
Things were going really well... until we got aquaplaning on a long straight on SS3 and front right of the car hit a rock face.

https://www.facebook.com/PontusTidemand/posts/1163541053660642

[Allyc85]

Brilliant run from Evans today! Just what he needed after a bad run over the summer!

I see Craig Breen has had his spare gearbox stolen! Stewards have seen sense for a change and will let him use a fellow competitors spare.

[Mariusz]

SS 4 is cancelled.

[N.O.T]

Farce !!!

[Mintexmemory]

Brilliant run from Evans today! Just what he needed after a bad run over the summer!

I see Craig Breen has had his spare gearbox stolen! Stewards have seen sense for a change and will let him use a fellow competitors spare.

Union Corse (familiar to all 007 readers) at work again!!!

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

I see Craig Breen has had his spare gearbox stolen! Stewards have seen sense for a change and will let him use a fellow competitors spare.
LOL, I'll expecting someone installing that for normal 208 GTi.. :p

Well, this year TdC isn't quite good, is it..?

[denkimi]

SS 4 is cancelled.

so that's already 1/4th of the rally.

[Doon]

Farce!!

[lewalcindor]

Tour de Farce?

[Mk2 RS2000]

And to think that the northern hemisphere influence prefers this event over the Rally of New Zealand.

[Micke_VOC]

Plenty of support for the Welshman Evans may have helped his performance...



Especially the rallyradio.
I am so tired about that Becks and Colin favorite a couple of drivers. ex Evans, Kubica and Breen

[Rallyper]

Remember also, even I think Evans did a very good job together with his gravelcrew, that average speed on SS3 was 81 km/h. Easier to have balls when speed is low. Evans doesn´t show the balls he should when average is over 120.

[danon]

Balls are nothing without bat!!!

[EightGear]

Remember also, even I think Evans did a very good job together with his gravelcrew, that average speed on SS3 was 81 km/h. Easier to have balls when speed is low. Evans doesn´t show the balls he should when average is over 120.
Then why have the guys who supposedly have balls at 120 km/h lost them at 81?

[Barreis]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/121138

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/121139

[Rallyper]

Then why have the guys who supposedly have balls at 120 km/h lost them at 81?

Bcs of all very special circumstances happened. Having said that about speed means the lower speed the more chance to succeed even without balls...

[itix]

I know some people are upset about the stage cancellations and while that is understandable I am absolutely loving the unpredictability of this rally!
So damn awesome!

Massive shame about Tidemand. He has 10 minutes to make up and that's an impossibility.

I guess Ogier's "perfect season" is out the window now. Now the result is wide open. Anyone could win.

...and VW is clearly not doing well in unpredictable conditions which makes me think that a lot of their pace could lie in the amount of preparation they do!

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/NnALqnoOYO4

[dimviii]

watch the debris at asphalt

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/43/14/Tour_de_Corse_2015_052_431489_560ed7510.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/43/15/Tour_de_Corse_2015_056_431519_560ed83e6.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/43/15/Tour_de_Corse_2015_065_431511_560ed83c8.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/43/15/Tour_de_Corse_2015_070_431513_560ed83d2.jpg

[dimviii]

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon

A new day, new beginnings. Drying conditions. No service this morning, tyre fitting zone followed by road section

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQX3mv1WIAAAFV9.jpg

[dimviii]

Martis birhtday

https://video-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hvideo-xap1/v/t42.1790-2/12018282_10153332355843952_1876729093_n.mp4?efg=ey JybHIiOjgxMywicmxhIjo1MTIsInZlbmNvZGVfdGFnIjoic2Qi fQ%3D%3D&rl=813&vabr=452&oh=db800b46a005d3244e4c3bb0a7e4c8aa&oe=560F9730

[wia5958]

I guess Ogier's "perfect season" is out the window now. Now the result is wide open.

How was it going to be the "perfect season"
?

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport 1

#tyre information:
M-Sport/Citroën/Latvala/Mikkelsen: 5 Michelin Pilot Sport S5 (soft)
Paddon: 3S+2H
Abbring: 5H
Neuville/Ogier: 4S+1H


watch Abbrings choice...

[Mirek]

Bcs of all very special circumstances happened. Having said that about speed means the lower speed the more chance to succeed even without balls...

Sorry but You don't understand what Corsica is about. The event is special by huge amount of corners, mostly blind where ability to push (have balls like You say) is simply not enough. Many failed in the past here because this event requires to be very clever about lines, about tyres and especially brakes management. There is no way to win this rally by pushing like hell in every corner.

[itix]

How was it going to be the "perfect season"
?

He said in interviews that he wanted to do a perfect mistake free season where he grabbed maximum points possible in every event (minus Argentina where the injectors let him down).

[Lundefaret]

I know some people are upset about the stage cancellations and while that is understandable I am absolutely loving the unpredictability of this rally!
So damn awesome!

Massive shame about Tidemand. He has 10 minutes to make up and that's an impossibility.

I guess Ogier's "perfect season" is out the window now. Now the result is wide open. Anyone could win.

...and VW is clearly not doing well in unpredictable conditions which makes me think that a lot of their pace could lie in the amount of preparation they do!

Maybe a restriction on testing and PET should be introduced?

[N.O.T]

just 20 mins to go now...

http://nowwatchtvlive.me/canal-sport-france-live-stream-watch-canal-sport-france-online/

[itix]

Maybe a restriction on testing and PET should be introduced?

My initial reaction to that without much thought is negative. I have a feeling we'll just end with what F1 is doing, which is simulating everything with very expensive machines instead. If you have a bigger budget, the money will go somewhere and likely it will give you an advantage anyway.

[satukata]

just 20 mins to go now...

http://nowwatchtvlive.me/canal-sport-france-live-stream-watch-canal-sport-france-online/

any other link? not´s link is not working for me

[stefanvv]

any other link? not´s link is not working for me

this works for me - http://foot.bsdillc.com/canalplus-sport.php

[stefanvv]

watch Abbrings choice...

Interesting, doesn't he think running down the order requires softer tyres, considering dirtier roads?

[dimviii]

Tanak very slow 1st split

[Bartek]

Kubica out?

[AL14]

Here we go Robert.

[Bartek]

I think it was puncture or crash

[Simmi]

Evans looks on pace to lose the lead here. Latvala really pulled his socks up today.

[Bartek]

This time I'm pretty sure that Kubica is out

[dimviii]

Neuville is totally lost...

[N.O.T]

Evans barely holds to his lead...

[dimviii]

Evans barely holds to his lead...

he keeps it for 1,7 sec

[N.O.T]

I think for Kubica is a good time to say goodbye to the sport...

[Bartek]

I am the only one who expected much more from Citroen boys?

[N.O.T]

Its going to be 1-2 for VW if the weather is dry from now on and if Latvala and Mikkelesen keep it on the road... the car is at a totally different level from the competition

[dimviii]

Camilli stopped,Kubica stopped again

[Bartek]

Camilli stopped,Kubica stopped again

Second puncture for Kubica

[Fast Eddie WRC]

‏@ElfynEvans
SS5: "It was really difficult in there and the grip was changing all the time so it was hard for sure. We just have to do what we can."

Looks like the normal conditions are now producing the normal results... :(

[Simmi]

‏Looks like the normal conditions are now producing the normal results... :(

It's easy to think that - but the stage is running slower than it did yesterday. So let's not pretend this is bone-dry tarmac.

[jacko]

I think for Kubica is a good time to say goodbye to the sport...
Pathetic words..
Some people just don't have it all and comes together but Kubica's pace is a lot better than some other factory-drivers and he really deserved a place in the WRC, most people inside the WRC know it but you just don't like him and blash him and it seems you're happy with it....
Kubica was (shared) fastest on the first stage, not a short one but a one of almost 30km. If you don't recognise his talent than you're really blind but it's not the first time you're completly on the wrong side with your comments here on the forum. But stay on your own created world if you're happy there...

[N.O.T]

Pathetic words..
Some people just don't have it all and comes together but Kubica's pace is a lot better than some other factory-drivers and he really deserved a place in the WRC, most people inside the WRC know it but you just don't like him and blash him and it seems you're happy with it....
Kubica was (shared) fastest on the first stage, not a short one but a one of almost 30km. If you don't recognise his talent than you're really blind but it's not the first time you're completly on the wrong side with your comments here on the forum. But stay on your own created world if you're happy there...

his pace is good for 1-2 stages and thats it... he has more crashes than starts this year... pathetic.

rallying is not for him, maybe he should stick to testing where he goes like a madman after passing through it a million times...

[dimviii]

Αbbring fucked up with tyre choice,wonder what are they thought with 5 hard ones.

[N.O.T]

Αbbring fucked up with tyre choice,wonder what are they thought with 5 hard ones.

they risked that the stage would be dry after so many passes and no rain since yesterday i think...

[dimviii]

anybody hear at stage end Abbrings comments?

[AL14]

they risked that the stage would be dry after so many passes and no rain since yesterday i think...

I think that too. Risking with it was a clever choice in my opinion.

[EightGear]

Αbbring fucked up with tyre choice,wonder what are they thought with 5 hard ones.
Wasn't really too bad though, he had a slow puncture in the last split. Up until then he was about equal to Evans.

[AL14]

Pathetic words..
Some people just don't have it all and comes together but Kubica's pace is a lot better than some other factory-drivers and he really deserved a place in the WRC, most people inside the WRC know it but you just don't like him and blash him and it seems you're happy with it....
Kubica was (shared) fastest on the first stage, not a short one but a one of almost 30km. If you don't recognise his talent than you're really blind but it's not the first time you're completly on the wrong side with your comments here on the forum. But stay on your own created world if you're happy there...

Winning stages means nothing if you crash on every rally you participate for 2 years.

[thuGG]

Winning stages means nothing if you crash on every rally you participate for 2 years.

Except that today he had two punctures.

[N.O.T]

Lets hope that Citroen saw what they wanted to see in Lefrebre after so many wasted drives and move on.

[EightGear]

anybody hear at stage end Abbrings comments?
Slow puncture in last part, which was dry so he lost time there instead on gaining. He said he should probably have taken sofst but happy with the time considering the puncture.

[dimviii]

anybody hear at stage end Abbrings comments?

Sat 11:08 - SS5: Abbring
Tenth fastest. "We have a slow puncture. The time is not bad considering, The hard tyre was not so bad. In hindsight I should have taken the softs."

the slow puncture shows why he lost so much at last splits.
Lets see if hard ones can be better solution at next one.

[Barreis]

When is the next livestreamed stage, please?

[Bartek]

Except that today he had two punctures.

This punctures didn't came from nowhere

[N.O.T]

When is the next livestreamed stage, please?

in around 2:30 hours.

[Mirek]

Breen really slow on this one.

[thuGG]

This punctures didn't came from nowhere

Where did they came from?

[N.O.T]

Where did they came from?

in most cases punctures come from hitting something you were not supposed to.... but we will see what happened soon i guess.

[AL14]

Where did they came from?

Guys I appreciate you being fan of him, really, but it can't exist an excuse everytime he fucked up.

[thuGG]

Guys I appreciate you being fan of him, really, but it can't exist an excuse everytime he fucked up.

Except that for now we don't know if he fucked up. He had a puncture in Poland where it wasn't his fault. Maybe we will know when onboard is released. For now that's just jumping to cocnusions without proof.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/43/18/Tour_de_Corse_2015_RM_075_431807_560f87b62.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/43/18/Tour_de_Corse_2015_RM_070_431827_560f87b74.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

Come on..... where are the scenic photos?

[MartijnS]

Liaison along the sea ;)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12118736_859755717476613_4087896674412693790_n.jpg ?oh=f160e408c3da1fcecbd80df575bd145c&oe=568ADA7C&__gda__=1452467875_b320e764fef3bbb5e3bcb95b633c854 7

[dimviii]

watch the spectator

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12087688_10153252365837057_5046407441977575440_o.j pg

[N.O.T]

watch the spectator

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12087688_10153252365837057_5046407441977575440_o.j pg

so this guy not only went to see a straight but even when the car passes he sees the inside of his umbrella...

retardation intensifies....

[dimviii]

cars at service now

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYuwTiWUAAlD-0.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYvD0PWIAAlg2t.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYvsfmWoAAzmMh.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYvqRFW8AAfPmK.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

911 making the hairpin

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5640/21703864178_f5e3d7334c_b.jpg

[noel157]

Tweet from Motorsport News:

Motorsport News ‏@MNRally 1h1 hour ago
After SS5 @ElfynEvans lead is down to 1.7s on the @TourdeCorseWRC. Can he hold on against the #Sisu master?

What do you think Motoring News???? Yeah, no problem.... #silly

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Caption ?

https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5734/21902495171_0490327506_b.jpg

[dimviii]

^^nice photo for a car that advertise dog foods



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYyjnSWUAAKsbi.jpg

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
SS6 totally dry up to 40kms. Last 9kms up the hill slightly damp in places. Fastest stage so far. Wide and flowing


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYzGN3W8AAy1Lp.jpg


lets see Abbrings choice.

[Bartek]

http://i57.tinypic.com/110kgg1.jpg

Like I said before, punctures didn't came from nowhere

[itix]

Guys I appreciate you being fan of him, really, but it can't exist an excuse everytime he fucked up.
Likewise not every time he has problems it is his own fault. This goes both ways you know?

And yes, I think we all hoped for more consistency from him, but let's be honest, he does have the pace occasionally, and the balls that everyone talked about a while ago (or courage as it is known in plain english) he has in abundance.

He can't of course blame a lack of experience forever so it is soon time to rack up some solid performances but I have to admit that I am impressed with what he occasionally achieves.

[stefanvv]

Like I said before, punctures didn't came from nowhere

Yeah, even Ogier's yesterday was his own fault.

[dimviii]

from m-sport

Elfyn Evans (1st) said:

"We seemed to lose a lot of time in one section. It was particularly greasy through that stretch of road and very hard to predict the grip because the mud would carry on for three or four corners. We'll have a good look at it to try and understand why that was the case.

"We had a clean run, which is the main thing, and we need to remember that this is a very long and difficult rally. There's a long way to go, but it's great to see that we're still here and in contention for what could be a very strong result.

"Even though we were

[stefanvv]

Tweet from Motorsport News:

Motorsport News ‏@MNRally 1h1 hour ago
After SS5 @ElfynEvans lead is down to 1.7s on the @TourdeCorseWRC. Can he hold on against the #Sisu master?

What do you think Motoring News???? Yeah, no problem.... #silly

Latvala is definitely on the attack today, so most likely no

[EightGear]

Citroën/Abbring/Paddon/Ogier/Latvala: 4 Michelin Pilot Sport H5 +1S
Neuville/Msport: 5H
Mikkelsen: 4H +2S

[Christos Kolperiadis]

Do you have any livestream for SS6?

[belas]

Do you have any livestream for SS6?
http://foot.bsdillc.com/canalplus-sport.php

[dimviii]

weather at ss6 stop

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQY_GP8WcAQA5dq.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Come on Elfyn, go for it !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQY32utW8AAIgtH.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS6 totally dry up to 40kms. Last 9kms up the hill slightly damp in places. Fastest stage so far. Wide and flowing ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQYzGN3W8AAy1Lp.jpg:large

[dimviii]

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally

SS6 delayed, it'll start at 2:02 pm CEST #RallyFrance #WRC

[dimviii]

Kubica at ss5

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19499_cqy8f3bwiaa4rvj.jpg

[raybak]

WRC+ timing has two cars starting at the same time:)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

VW's getting ahead by split 1 ...

[Mariusz]

his pace is good for 1-2 stages and thats it...
You know nothing about his pace, Jon Snow.

[noel157]

You know nothing about his pace, Jon Snow.

Winter is coming....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Would just love to drive this stage... awesome !

[dimviii]

101km/h average for Neuville
103 km/h for Ogier

[Christos Kolperiadis]

not bad splits from Lefebvre at the begging... lets see...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML had some gearshift problem in SS6...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans now faster then Mikkelsen on splits !

Not bad... just 2 sec off Latvala going into Sunday. :)

SS6: "It was difficult to find the confidence in that one, but again, the time was pretty good! It's all still to play for and we will do the best we can and just see where we find ourselves.."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Abbring, Bouffier and Sarazzin not on the pace here, even behind Neuville on the splits.

[N.O.T]

Very nice run by Evans... nice battle tomorrow for the 3rd place. Lets see who of the youngsters wants it more.

Will Kubica try and make a mistake tomorrow as well or it is over ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great to see two Brits in the Top 4 now ! :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQZPc7CWgAA163Z.png

[thuGG]

Will Kubica try and make a mistake tomorrow as well or it is over ?

Yes he will try not to make mistakes.

[Allyc85]

Pathetic that the day is over by mid afternoon! What about a night stage or 2?

[tommeke_B]

Pathetic that the day is over by mid afternoon! What about a night stage or 2?
Most people do agree with you... I don't understand how FIA and the promotor allow these kind of things, like a rally with only 9 stages... 2 are cancelled and now we end up with some kind of rally-sprint. The stages are longer, but for the fans (both at home and on stages) it's nicer to follow events that have more (shorter) stages...

[Simmi]

Seems like some people have forgotten that this whole event is a compromise situation due to the money falling through in Alsace. There wasn't the time or money to pull together a full scale event in Corsica. Alternative would have just been to cancel the French round.

The biggest question for me is what is being done about next year?

[tommeke_B]

If they don't have money to organize a proper WRC round it would be better to not organize at all, and leave the calendar slot to some other country. The problem of 14 events next year would have been solved too then...

[OldF]

The days have felt very short indeed. With shorter stages it’s more intense to follow a rally. If no other cancelation occurs, 26% of stages has been cancelled, which is only 74% of completed stages so…. only 50% of points?

[Mariusz]

http://i57.tinypic.com/110kgg1.jpg

Like I said before, punctures didn't came from nowhere
They use refurbished rims (they fixed them after Germany) and two of them broke again today.

[MartijnS]

Apparently Capito mentioned something about being back on Corsica in 6 months. So maybe end of April/start of May next year.

[RS]

What happened to Tidemand again?

[manthey]

"I will not change anything... I will put it how it should be... anyway, nobody will try it so... it's not something that you would drive normally..."

what the hell is he talking about?!?

Listening the interview I remembered an interview when he was competing with RRC
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=21917&title=citroen-planuje-presun-roberta-kubici-do-ms-v-roce-2014
he trasferred setup from his f1's experience
so maybe is referring to something extreme (caster angle?suspension?)

[RS]

What happened to Tidemand again?

Puncture apparently.

[tommeke_B]

A bit off-topic but I'm quite disappointed by the photos that have been published so far. It's the rally of the 10 000 corners and apparently many "professional" photographers still don't manage to find them...

[dimviii]

A bit off-topic but I'm quite disappointed by the photos that have been published so far. It's the rally of the 10 000 corners and apparently many "professional" photographers still don't manage to find them...

yes,i ve saw all photos till now and i can say i didn t find 1 photo i like.

[dimviii]

They use refurbished rims (they fixed them after Germany) and two of them broke again today.

are you serious?

[MartijnS]

I liked these

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/1045198_10153204512055678_4645401976270783848_n.jp g?oh=cbc8273d2cca54da186cd4e700f34266&oe=569E8988

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12096380_957469287625391_7516792697230323801_n.jpg ?oh=8643fd8bcda02b4f8ab4e656c6a8e3ef&oe=56A7FC52

[maciotacio]

are you serious?

True story, bro. Robert said that to polish jurno Gutowski. With the smallest budget in the field they have to do such a things. Thats how it is. So it was still his mistake, right ?

There is the interview (in Polish):
http://eurosport.onet.pl/motorowe/rajdy-samochodowe/robert-kubica-nie-wiem-jak-to-wytlumaczyc/dqysm5

[Bartek]

True story, bro. Robert said that to polish jurno Gutowski. With the smallest budget in the field they have to do such a things. Thats how it is. So it was still his mistake, right ?

There is the interview (in Polish):
http://eurosport.onet.pl/motorowe/rajdy-samochodowe/robert-kubica-nie-wiem-jak-to-wytlumaczyc/dqysm5


Always budget, budget, budget. Do you know what is his budget?

I would like to know which team except Citroen, VW, Hyundai and M-Sport use new rims? I know plenty polish drivers from Polish Championship which are using used rims and they are happy and they don't have problems like this.

[JTGANG]

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/october/volkswagen-fined/page/2859--12-12-.html

[dimviii]

I know plenty polish drivers from Polish Championship which are using used rims and they are happy and they don't have problems like this.

dont confuse ''used rim'' with ''refurbished rim'' Bartek.

[dimviii]

borl video day 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_azowVpwq48

[Mariusz]

Most people do agree with you... I don't understand how FIA and the promotor allow these kind of things, like a rally with only 9 stages... 2 are cancelled and now we end up with some kind of rally-sprint. The stages are longer, but for the fans (both at home and on stages) it's nicer to follow events that have more (shorter) stages...

On the other hand fans want wrc events to be unique and this rally is unique with long stages only, some of them are run only once and services in different places.

[MartijnS]

Really beautiful island though!

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/12144792_760786307381349_7185477841957469233_n.jpg ?oh=734a1620fdc5be32f5fd407e92c0b3f6&oe=5684B540

[AL14]

True story, bro. Robert said that to polish jurno Gutowski. With the smallest budget in the field they have to do such a things. Thats how it is. So it was still his mistake, right ?

There is the interview (in Polish):
http://eurosport.onet.pl/motorowe/rajdy-samochodowe/robert-kubica-nie-wiem-jak-to-wytlumaczyc/dqysm5

Everytime he has an excuse. Sorry, this could be rims fault, but what about him not destroying his car in previous rallyes? Maybe he could have had the budget to buy proper rims then. There are plenty of private drivers and teams that manage to reach the finish line in several rounds. He did never. Everytime it is something else fault: the brakes, the rims, the engine, the team, the bad luck. Or he is the most unlucky man in the world or he just have a problem himself that in 2 years he didn't manage to solve.

[manthey]

True story, bro. Robert said that to polish jurno Gutowski. With the smallest budget in the field they have to do such a things. Thats how it is. So it was still his mistake, right ?

There is the interview (in Polish):
http://eurosport.onet.pl/motorowe/rajdy-samochodowe/robert-kubica-nie-wiem-jak-to-wytlumaczyc/dqysm5

what is the current situation with Fabia r5 new supplier? I read on r5 topic there were some issues and punctures because of rims

[Rally Power]

Pathetic that the day is over by mid afternoon! What about a night stage or 2?

Amen! The other 9 to 5 rallys feels always short but this TdC schedule beat them ridiculously. With so many spare time drivers could apply for a Uber vacancy...

Great perfs from Evans and Abbring. It would be amazing to see Evans winning it, but any podium finish will be a major achievement for him and MSport.

[dimviii]

Really beautiful island though!

indeed!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQZqL9oWoAE_BqI.jpg

[rallyace]

Amen! The other 9 to 5 rallys feels always short but this TdC schedule beat them ridiculously. With so many spare time drivers could apply for a Uber vacancy...

Exactly. This year's Tour de Corse has been one of the strangest, shortest and most unpredictable events in quite a while. In some ways that's a good thing as we have no idea as to how the podium is going to look after SS9 tomorrow, but it also makes for quite a lot of boredom for us who aren't at the stages this weekend but follow the event at home. ;)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQaXyHhWIAAj2QW.jpg

[stefanvv]

not to mention the 2 cancelled stages with over 85km length