Rally Argentina 2015

[jbmarcus21]

I dont find new thread about Wrc Argentina ..

Then, timetable and google earth map is online now
http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/wrc-rallye-argentine-2015/

[N.O.T]

lets see what the organisers will F.... up this time....

[RICARDO75]

Provisional entry list
http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/DRAFT-Entry-List-RA15-24-3-15.pdf

[pantealex]

entrylist with 67 names
www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/inscriptos_RA2015.pdf
still not the final version...

[stefanvv]

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march/argentina-aid/page/2295--12-12-.html

EDIT: Good initiative by the organisers, don't You think?

[pantealex]

www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/ENTRY-LIST-RA15-FIA-31-3-15.pdf

28 with FIA car (+32 others = 60 crews)

14 x WRC

10 x WRC2

[vino_93]

The list is quite ununderstandable.
Is everybody taking part to the WRC in this list or not ?

[makinen_fan]

Half of the list is marked as National cars, that do not have FIA homologation, so no WRC for them.

[bluuford]

If I remember correctly then there was some kind of new rule with national homologation and that cars with national homologation were allowed in to take part in WRC event and in calssification.
Here it is (they are in the list, but they cannot collect points):
NATIONAL/REGIONAL CARS (NOT VALID IN EUROPE)
4.4.1 Cars homologated or approved by the ASN of the organising country will be permitted to take part
in WRC events outside Europe, without eligibility to score Championship points.
4.4.2 Prior to the rally, the organiser will propose to the FIA a list of cars for approval.
4.4.3 Drivers entered in the national class shall always use a different entry form.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCp3dKsWYAIRjL7.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Itinerary: http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Cronograma-RA-2015-V3.pdf

[Bartek]

RK will not start in Argentina

[N.O.T]

RK will not start in Argentina

good decision by him.

[dimviii]

RK will not start in Argentina
why?

[noel157]

Apparently re-organising his team. Budget? Preparation? New team/personnel/support more than likely.

"Robert Kubica will not take part in the Rally of Argentina, the fourth round of the World Rally Championship. The Polish driver, competing in this season's colors RK World Rally Team, wants to devote more time to reorganize the team, which will guarantee the highest level of performance, service and organization in future races. Since the team was formed just before the Rally Monte Carlo - the first round of this year's World Rally Championship - Robert Kubica is convinced he needed better support in Argentina and needed a thorough job and the introduction of key changes in the organizational structure. - It was a very difficult decision - says Robert Kubica. - Rally Argentina from the beginning was in our plans, and even though the place has reached a part of the team, along with the car, the decision to not start is a must. Competition in the World Rally Championship is a real challenge, and although I won six special stages in the first three races, but we have to be realistic and concentrate on improving the team in many areas. At the Rally of Portugal plan to return with the revised structure that will be systematically improved. I would like to ask all our fans for your understanding and thank you for your support."

[maciotacio]

Official info is about nessesary restructurisation in his team.
Its kind of strange for me, because Fiesta is in service park, mechanics already started to put stickers on it and suddenly we've got this message. Somethink definitely goes wrong, its not in RK style to give that kind of message just 3 days to rally start.

[noel157]

He's obviously not happy about something.

[N.O.T]

usually things like that are the beginning of the end, so it is good for everyone.

[N.O.T]

Apparently re-organising his team. Budget? Preparation? New team/personnel/support more than likely.

"Robert Kubica will not take part in the Rally of Argentina, the fourth round of the World Rally Championship. The Polish driver, competing in this season's colors RK World Rally Team, wants to devote more time to reorganize the team, which will guarantee the highest level of performance, service and organization in future races. Since the team was formed just before the Rally Monte Carlo - the first round of this year's World Rally Championship - Robert Kubica is convinced he needed better support in Argentina and needed a thorough job and the introduction of key changes in the organizational structure. - It was a very difficult decision - says Robert Kubica. - Rally Argentina from the beginning was in our plans, and even though the place has reached a part of the team, along with the car, the decision to not start is a must. Competition in the World Rally Championship is a real challenge, and although I won six special stages in the first three races, but we have to be realistic and concentrate on improving the team in many areas. At the Rally of Portugal plan to return with the revised structure that will be systematically improved. I would like to ask all our fans for your understanding and thank you for your support."

maybe he will hire a more competent driver as well...

[MJW]

He's obviously not happy about something.

My guess is that RK wants 2015 evo Fiesta when its launched in Portugal and Malcolm says yes as long as car is engineered and serviced by MSport

[stefanvv]

My guess is that RK wants 2015 evo Fiesta when its launched in Portugal and Malcolm says yes as long as car is engineered and serviced by MSport

How is Argentina involved in this plan?

[Rallyper]

Very likely he has to change more or less the whole team surrounding him and an M-sport involvement is much realitic.
Nah, he´s not going to give up that´s for sure even if NOT hope so.

[stefanvv]

It's ok if it takes little more time, but wasn't he unhappy with M-Sport last year? What is his motivation now to switch back? Just a better car perhaps....

[N.O.T]

maybe M-sport had a shortage of WRC chassis and needs to produce some more for Kubica to have even more fun with them... who knows.

[stefanvv]

Ha-ha-ha. Well let's hope he will get some "fun".

[Ounin]

Very strange you do the whole trip as a team with all logistics and arrangements and then you say we do a restructure ... Not Kubica-ish, he must have prepared himself his co and the team very well. What has happened? Can anybody over there find out??

[AL14]

Kubica had problems with M-Sport, did not find an agreement with PH-Sport and now this. I think it would be great to be his friend but not his coworker. It's a pity though but I think he is not a great diplomatic man. Just speculations of course.

[Mariusz]

Very strange you do the whole trip as a team with all logistics and arrangements and then you say we do a restructure ... Not Kubica-ish, he must have prepared himself his co and the team very well. What has happened? Can anybody over there find out??
No more official details yet. I personally think somebody from RK WRT quit and Robert was trying till the last minute to find a good substitution, but I guess it didn't happen so taking part in the rally in that situation would be just waste of money.

[Ounin]

Stop it guys with all these silly suggestions, really great to put it all again in negative perspective, it's pretty easy well done... No details yet so wait a while in meantime you can load your guns.
Mariusz, only one person you cannot deal without is his engineer, don't know his name, maybe someone else does, but in case he is present you could do the rally... ??? F.i. spares and mechanics are always available. Maybe food poisoning of whole team but unlikely then we would know.

[A FONDO]

56km San MArcos (SS8&10) shortened to 42,5 km.

http://cs621928.vk.me/v621928826/22f04/qAUEqJIqdd0.jpg

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[Rallyper]

That could be a small part of Safari Rally. Why not try in Argentina? It´s a world event with all kinds of challenges. This could be one of them. ;)

[Rallyper]

Stop it guys with all these silly suggestions, really great to put it all again in negative perspective, it's pretty easy well done... No details yet so wait a while in meantime you can load your guns.
Mariusz, only one person you cannot deal without is his engineer, don't know his name, maybe someone else does, but in case he is present you could do the rally... ??? F.i. spares and mechanics are always available. Maybe food poisoning of whole team but unlikely then we would know.

Has RK done some tests before Argentina? That also is a sign of something, if not.

[rallyfiend]

Stop it guys with all these silly suggestions, really great to put it all again in negative perspective, it's pretty easy well done... No details yet so wait a while in meantime you can load your guns.
Mariusz, only one person you cannot deal without is his engineer, don't know his name, maybe someone else does, but in case he is present you could do the rally... ??? F.i. spares and mechanics are always available. Maybe food poisoning of whole team but unlikely then we would know.

It's clearly just a sign of conflict between him and A-Style.

I would suggest that robert now has a few weeks to try and find a new team with a car if he wants to be in Portugal.

[Rallyper]

Is RK doing the recce in Argentina? (That should be a must both for him as driver and for FIA regulations, or what?)

[dimviii]

really bad situation

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2015/post-1430-0-87859800-1429558295.jpg

[dimviii]

Has RK done some tests before Argentina? That also is a sign of something, if not.
car was at Argentina

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10906387_10152958638233952_7045367691402002939_n.j pg?oh=81e5874f1fdbb54e3986dda69d95195e&oe=55D9B2DA

[stefanvv]

really bad situation

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_04_2015/post-1430-0-87859800-1429558295.jpg

where is this?

[dimviii]

i am not sure but must be the same stage as the previous photos with mud.

[stefanvv]

that's a shame, it could be a monster stage

[bluuford]

Is RK doing the recce in Argentina? (That should be a must both for him as driver and for FIA regulations, or what?)

Kubica is not registered anywhere. He can do whatever he wants, nothing happens.

[devil's land]

i am not sure but must be the same stage as the previous photos with mud.
I think this is in the same stage, too.

[dimviii]

Ηyundai new paddle shift selector at Argentina

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDI3TxgW4AEYNgM.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDI3TxgW8AAgWNR.jpg

[OldF]

BILLIOT Jérémie ‏@planetemarcus (https://twitter.com/planetemarcus)Apr 20 (https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/590226182261452800)
#WRC (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRC?src=hash) RT @RubnPerez (https://twitter.com/RubnPerez) : the reason SS8/SS10 shortened [PHOTO]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDDnlZ0UgAASpyG.jpg

WRC ‏@OfficialWRC (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC)23h23 hours ago (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/590263314548203522)
SS8/10 of @rallyargentina (https://twitter.com/rallyargentina) is shortened by 14.27kms from the start due to bad road damage. Now it will be 42.5kms long
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDEJS7UWIAADnTD.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDEJS7TW4AEp6pd.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDEJS7TW4AAsJFZ.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDEJS8QW4AAAs_7.jpg

[cali]

Ouch, not really good road conditions :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Numerous reports coming in that the stages are especially rough and tricky this year...

Could be many on Rally2 after day one... sensible driving should pay dividends.

[Ounin]

car was at Argentina

https://scontent-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10906387_10152958638233952_7045367691402002939_n.j pg?oh=81e5874f1fdbb54e3986dda69d95195e&oe=55D9B2DA

That is exactly where the whole issue is all about; car is already in Argentina!

[Rallyper]

Something came up suddenly?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica is adamant his team, which is run by Italian company A-Style, needs substantial reorganisation...

“This has been a very difficult decision to take,” he said. “We have always planned to compete in Rally Argentina and although part of the team, including the car, is already on site, it was necessary to skip this event. It is a real challenge to compete in the World Rally Championship and although I won six stages in the first three rounds, we have to be realistic and focus on improving the team in many areas."

“We plan to come back for the Rally de Portugal with a different structure, which will be systematically fine-tuned. I would like to ask all our fans for understanding and I want to thank them for their support,” he added.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

‏@krismeeke
'Stages incredibly rough.. going to be a tough Rally Argentina...'

Maybe be better with one of the local cars ! :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDNPWJfWEAAkP-z.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice view of the suspension required for Argentina ... :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDNVfL9WgAA0toP.jpg:large

[OldF]

You left out the first sentence of his tweet. A new teammate with different model?


krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke 1h1 hour ago Villa Carlos Paz, Argentina

Got held up on the recce by a teammate! Stages incredibly rough. going to be a tough




‏@krismeeke
'Stages incredibly rough.. going to be a tough Rally Argentina...'

Maybe be better with one of the local cars ! :D

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDNPWJfWEAAkP-z.jpg

[OldF]

Kubica is adamant his team, which is run by Italian company A-Style, needs substantial reorganisation...

“This has been a very difficult decision to take,” he said. “We have always planned to compete in Rally Argentina and although part of the team, including the car, is already on site, it was necessary to skip this event. It is a real challenge to compete in the World Rally Championship and although I won six stages in the first three rounds, we have to be realistic and focus on improving the team in many areas."

“We plan to come back for the Rally de Portugal with a different structure, which will be systematically fine-tuned. I would like to ask all our fans for understanding and I want to thank them for their support,” he added.

Maybe this is the problem.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDN2Uf0WYAAfii6.jpg

[dimviii]

1st run Shakedown
Ostberg
Ogier/Meeke +0,6
Tänak +1,2
Latvala +1,5
Sordo +1,7
Evans +2,9
Neuville/Mikkelsen +3,1
Paddon +3,2

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDN3hiHWAAE0bfS.jpg

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDN4K8iWAAE8RoF.jpg

[EstWRC]

Lol at Meeke and Ogier and Mikkelsen and Neuville

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDN6EhNXIAATmOC.jpg

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDN-qDhWAAENi5v.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@M-Sport - Shakedown is all about fine-tuning the set-up for the rougher than usual conditions on the Rally Argentina stages...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDOAfO-UIAAWQFw.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen on SD.. susp with big ground clearance
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDN-HVsW0AAvc11.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Μikkelsen
https://instagram.com/p/1ycu8jCrk6/

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDOJntMWYAAijEj.jpg

[dimviii]

Paddon
https://instagram.com/p/1yg7J6wrdx/

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDONVEJXIAA5ZM5.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke quick on SD
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t50.2886-16/11166430_1426173274365149_508334643_n.mp4

[stefanvv]

Is there some problem with the drivers, or just Ogier is too good for them?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Interviews now on: http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[dimviii]

Sordo
https://instagram.com/p/1ymeMWGJ-r/

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDOeatkVAAAJum5.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke flat out on SD

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDOoU_KWYAEUinN.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDOpcScW0AEfgd4.jpg:large

[dimviii]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/16618224123/

[bluuford]

Quick weather update for the rally

Today and Friday
Wetaher should be dry with more clouds wxindspeed will be just 2-3 m/s
SS1, sunny, nearly no wind, temperature +18..+19

SS2 sunny, 3-4 m/s wind, temperature +12..+14
SS3 sunny, 3-4 m/s wind, temperature +16..+18

SS4 might have some clouds, 2-3 m/s wind, temperature +18..+21
SS5 sunny, 3-4 m/s wind, temperature +20..+22

SS6 sunny, 1-2 m/s wind, temperature +22..+24

Satruday
Ss7 sunny, 2-3 m/s wind, +14..+16
SS8 sunny, 2-3 m/s wind, +18..+20
SS9 sunny, 2-3 m/s wind, +21..+23
SS10 sunny, 2-3 m/s wind, +21..+24


Sunday

SS11 partly cloudy or foggy, 1-2 m/s wind, +10..+12
SS12 cloudy or foggy risk of light rain , 1-2 m/s wind, +12..+14

So, we expect beautiful weekend with light risk of rain on Sunday. Most of the roads should become very dry.

[EstWRC]

Startlists http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/START-LIST-FOR-SECTION-1-TCO-THURSDAY-23RD.pdf

http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/START-LIST-FOR-SECTION-3-TC1B-FRIDAY-24TH.pdf

[makinen_fan]

Sordo :eek:

Another angle
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDQYlq8WgAAPBGA.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bertelli nice SD video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfdVcZZhalc&feature=youtu.be&a

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BORL SD: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7QdquwVIE&a=&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another angle


And another :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDRBnbEWgAAKF4U.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Watersplashes here more than any other event

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDQnU7PWIAEzPsT.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDQtPJZWAAAFew3.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDQyKY9WMAAqAHI.jpg:large

[Tom206wrc]

No SD times for Stéphane Lefèbvre(WRC2) :confused:

[noel157]

That is exactly where the whole issue is all about; car is already in Argentina!

So, the car shouldn't be in Argentina? The car is and Robert isn't? Can you explain please?

[pantealex]

No SD times for Stéphane Lefèbvre(WRC2) :confused:

He is not WRC2

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport
#tyre information: All drivers with 5 #Michelin LTX Force S4 except Sordo and Mikkelsen: 4S4 +1H4 #wrc

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDSQQJDWIAA89gU.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDSJlhpWMAEuO_b.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDSM93NWYAEMfom.jpg

[AL14]

No live coverage for SS1?

[dimviii]

Evans/Barrit faster at wheel change
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/april-2015/wheel-change/page/2335--12-12-.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Live SSS on local TV: http://www.sanluistv.com/

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/trecesl


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDTpnRpWIAAKIZB.png:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He is not WRC2

Stéphane Lefebvre ‏@SLefebvreRallye

Départ imminent du @RallyArgentino ! #RallyArgentina #WRC2 is starting soon ! @CitroenRacing @redbullmotors #DS3R5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDTtf37WYAAJDzx.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier fastest through SS1, 0.2 seconds quicker than Meeke and Mikkelsen !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDT1dyqWMAA4O4Z.jpg:large

SSS1
1) Ogier, 2m32s0
2) Meeke, +0s2
3) Mikkelsen +0s2
4) Latvala +0s3
5) Sordo, +1s0

[Mintexmemory]

Well that's the best SSS from Meeke in ages - usually he's 5 secs down!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well that's the best SSS from Meeke in ages - usually he's 5 secs down!

He was very aggressive, cutting and going right over the sandbags...

Maybe trying to gain time before the rough stuff starts ! ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDT5eYvXIAAEgX7.jpg

[Hartusvuori]

Stéphane Lefebvre ‏@SLefebvreRallye

Départ imminent du @RallyArgentino ! #RallyArgentina #WRC2 is starting soon ! @CitroenRacing @redbullmotors #DS3R5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDTtf37WYAAJDzx.jpg

Keep eye on 3rd row on the left: http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/START-LIST-FOR-SECTION-3-TC1B-FRIDAY-24TH.pdf

[pantealex]

Keep eye on 3rd row on the left: http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/START-LIST-FOR-SECTION-3-TC1B-FRIDAY-24TH.pdf

or check priority on the right side.

[EstWRC]

Nice job by Meeke splitting the VW's, my money is on Meeke, Neuville and Tänak this week to split the VW's in overall. Will be a very tough rally and i think we will see many rally2 users.

[Silverbullet050]

He was very aggressive, cutting and going right over the sandbags...

Maybe trying to gain time before the rough stuff starts ! ;)

Do you think that maybe the Citroen updates are really good. Meeke was upset in sss prior as the VW was able to take 3-5 sec on 2k. Great job by him even though it's only ss1.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDUTHXcW8AACLI9.jpg :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice shot of Meeke on the SSS...

http://www.autosportfoto.sk/images/gallery/rally-argentina-citro-n-stvrtok/052-meeke-argentina-2015.jpg

More classy shots of Citroen team yesterday: http://www.autosportfoto.sk/spravodajstvo/kategoria/wrc/foto/rally-argentina-citro-n-stvrtok

[EstWRC]

#tyres information: All Michelin drivers with 5 LTX Force S4. M-Sport: 6 LTX Force S4 #RallyArgentina

[christy but]

anybody having trouble with wrc plus?? wont work on mobile and it works on laptop but when I click on car tracker number it does not show the crew or speed

[AL14]

In laptop totally fine for me I see a new interface with the speed and crew visible without the need to clic on it

[stefanvv]

wrc+ splits are not working for me

[hari]

New Interface with speeds, splits looks like only working in Chrome Browser, not in Internet Explorer for me.

[leighton323]

Mikkelsen already stopped
EDIT: GPS working again

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen already stopped

Yes, seems like he is not moving anymore on WRC+:mad:

[AL14]

No live splits on chrome neither.

[wwbroe]

Ostberg is flying, allready 11 sec faster on Ogier

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen flew over right behind Ogier now:D

[hari]

Just a GPS glitch i think, was moving normally later on.

[wwbroe]

Suddenly Mikkelsen back on his place, what is wrong, fault in WRC+ again?

[Dug83]

Moving on mine but Nevuille stopped for me.

[wwbroe]

Indeed, now Neuville is stopped on screen, hopefully another mistake in WRC+

[hari]

Neuville also seems not to have stopped. If they dont move on the map it is mostly just no gps Signal.
Best indication for stopping is the cars Speed. if not moving and Speed showing - gps glitch. If not moving on map and 0 kph -> very likely really stopped :)

[AL14]

They're making a real mess in all the way

[wwbroe]

Neuville just jumped back into his position, what are they using, helicopters?:D

[hari]

Ogier reported to have probably engine Problems (Misfiring)

[wwbroe]

They must be not that big, because still moving strong?

[hari]

Now Neuville really seems to have stopped on stage - 0 kph
Passed by Ostberg on the stage

[wwbroe]

His speed is going down tough, so really problem appearing?

[noel157]

Mikkelsen with FR puncture according to Gravel Voice.
Neuville seems to have indeed stopped.
Ogier now stopped.

[wwbroe]

Ogier stopped in stage

[rage82]

Ogier now stopped

[wwbroe]

Neuville back on the move

[AL14]

There is only one comment to this stage (and it is not finished yet): LOL

[wwbroe]

Evans very fast on splits, fastest at split 3 sofar

[wwbroe]

Sordo even faster as Evans now

[jonkka]

They seem to have added team name to splits rows, making the table way too wide for the space reserved for it... Great engineering...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sounds like the roads are having the feared effect straight away ...

[noel157]

What is the first line of the song "Don't cry for me Argentina"?

"It won't be easy"

[noel157]

They seem to have added team name to splits rows, making the table way too wide for the space reserved for it... Great engineering...

Thought that too but screen gets wider as stage progresses and more split points are introduced.

[Mintexmemory]

Meeke appears quicker than Sordo, we are in for many twists in the next 3 days! Don't discount a winner from super rally

[noel157]

8 ESPD. SORDO HYUNDAI MOTORSPORT M 00:06:42.8 -6.0 00:19:44.9 -29.9 -40.4 Don't think so!

[jonkka]

Thought that too but screen gets wider as stage progresses and more split points are introduced.

Does it? For me it's already slightly overlaying the ads on the right and if one more column is added, I fear that scroll bar will appear, making the table completely unreadable...

[wwbroe]

Evans lost some time in the dust of Neuville

[jonkka]

Also, I noticed that there is sorting for start position column - but not for any other column. Why would one want to sort them for start position as they already are sorted that way...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not only problems with cars stopping, also those having clean runs getting stuck in others dust... :(

[Mintexmemory]

Meeke 7 secs up on Sordo at last split - Go Kris!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala the sensible one for once ! :)

After SS2 "Tried to be clever and not attack to much on difficult places. No worries. Clean run.."

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Sordo, in front of Latvalla by 2 sec

[wwbroe]

powersteering problem for Sordo, with a small fire?

[noel157]

Does it? For me it's already slightly overlaying the ads on the right and if one more column is added, I fear that scroll bar will appear, making the table completely unreadable...

Get rid of the ads? Adblock good.

http://i.imgur.com/NAsTwWU.png

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Elfyn Evans ‏@ElfynEvans
SS2: "Really frustrating. We lost so much time behind Neuville. Sent a radio message for him to move over, but..." :(

[jonkka]

Get rid of the ads? Adblock good.

Don't want to. I've noticed that Google pushes quite relevant ads based on my google searches so I sometimes do click those ads. Thanks for the tip though.

[wwbroe]

What a time for Chris Meeke

[noel157]

Meeke leader. Take it canny Kris. Please.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And Meeke lost time behind Tanak...

[noel157]

Don't want to. I've noticed that Google pushes quite relevant ads based on my google searches so I sometimes do click those ads. Thanks for the tip though.

I prefer thinking for myself. : )

[rage82]

Really unbelievable time for Kris hope he can keep it on the road

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW1NLxWMAAYzgF.jpg:large

[wwbroe]

And Meeke was having problems with handbrake, imagine what time he could have made;)

[EstWRC]

Everybody complaining about dust, even Prokop.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dust on SS2

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW1OODWIAEFjcF.jpg:large

[Mintexmemory]

It would seem that Citroen have done something right!! I don't discount Ogier coming back for a top 10 finish but this is a golden chance to throw the Championship open again.

[EstWRC]

It would seem that Citroen have done something right!! I don't discount Ogier coming back for a top 10 finish but this is a golden chance to throw the Championship open again.

dont know about the championship but this is golden chance for Meeke to win!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke: "In the last 10km I couldn’t see properly so I was taking it so carefully - I was idling into corners." :eek:

[Sch17]

Its very frustrating that both citroen cars have problems... On every rally there is a issue with the car. I really want too see Meeke and Ostberg without problems..

[wwbroe]

Great time by Protasov as well, leading WRC2 by quite a big margin

[N.O.T]

Lets see if Latvala can win this now as he should... if he doesn't its time to say bye bye from the sport.

[N.O.T]

That is usually the problem with huge stages... exciting to watch but once they finish the rally is not that interesting anymore.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

VW Motorsport confirm: 'Ogier stopped due to technical problem. Retired for the day, car will be brought to service for analysis. Will rejoin under Rally2 regulations.'

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW56FnW4AAlGbT.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW56GIWYAAofO6.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Strange engine sound from Ogier's car in SS2: https://youtu.be/rhUiGQ1HgSM

[dimviii]

did they said something about it at the rallyradio?

iRally ‏@Official_iRally 1 ώραΠριν από 1 ώρα
Reports coming in that Ogier, Neuville and Sordo took an incorrect junction in the stage #WRC #RallyArgentina #iRally

[AL14]

Strange engine sound from Ogier's car in SS2: https://youtu.be/rhUiGQ1HgSM

Is it possible that some water entered in the engine during a watersplash and damaged something? Maybe a co-driver error that did not close the pipes to keep water outside?

[dimviii]

^^ yes its possible due to water pass.

[dimviii]

Maybe a co-driver error that did not close the pipes to keep water outside?

NO WAY!! Ogier would had mention it at stage stop.

[AL14]

NO WAY!! Ogier would had mention it at stage stop.

Let me guess, He would had said that the first in the road took more water than others? ;)

[wwbroe]

NO WAY!! Ogier would had mention it at stage stop.

He never reached the stop-finish line. :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS2 WRC TV crews report that Ogier, Neuville and Sordo drove the long way around a junction 8.8km from the start..

[dimviii]

He never reached the stop-finish line. :D

so we have to wait for afternon interview.http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/258031Sanstitre.png

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW0y0WWIAAfxke.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW3hilVIAAvBeT.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDW7e4hWIAAAwK-.jpg

[makinen_fan]

did they said something about it at the rallyradio?



they did, but not a lot of details. sounds like they took the long way around a junction

[andyone]

now the rally will be very intresting. whtouth Ogier. awesome stuff from God.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

With VW specifying Ogier had a 'technical problem', they clearly want to show its not some kind of error by the crew.

On the video it sounded to me like a broken manifold or not running on all cylinders ...

[EstWRC]

so, the m-sport drivers have 2 spare soft tires while others have 1.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Early days but can Meeke grasp his Argentina chance ??

http://www.autosportfoto.sk/images/gallery/rally-argentina-citro-n-stvrtok/049-meeke-argentina-2015.jpg

[N.O.T]

Early days but can Meeke grasp his Argentina chance ??


if he doesn't bin it he has a chance.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3 - Mikkelsen problems again... FR suspension.

Lost +2m30s - damper gone thru the bonnet !

[hari]

Neuville: "Andreas was in front of me driving very slowly so I had to give him a push. It's no fun at all. This is more like Dakar."

[dimviii]

SS3 - Mikkelsen problems again... FR suspension.

Lost +2m30s - damper gone thru the bonnet !

probably too much km with flat tyre from previous stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke lost 18s to JML.. rear puncture .. :(

[jonkka]

But still leads?

[EstWRC]

Still waiting to see the real speed of Tänak but pretty good so far in 4th with easy tempo. Great to see someone else leading the rally :)

[wwbroe]

But still leads?

Yes, he is still leading by 15 sec;)

[bluuford]

Mikkelsen retired? I can see him stopped just a little distance away from stage end?
Edit.. moving now.. probably will be very late

[noel157]

Protasov in trouble? That other stage end commentator is hard work.

[dimviii]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally
Paddon "Exhaust has fallen off, gears are shot, it's going to be harder this afternoon...

[EstWRC]

Tänak: Now 4th after SS3. Really nice and fast at the start then it was more narrow. Trying to take it easy to make sure everything is right

[bluuford]

Mikkelsen doing 180 km/h

[dimviii]

lololol

FRI 11:16 - SS3: WRC 2 PROTASOV
His co-driver Pavlo Cherepin gives an update: "The wheel came off two corners before the end. We will try and get back to service." Protasov is still in stage looking for the wheel. Without it on the car he will have to retire.

[dimviii]

Still waiting to see the real speed of Tänak but pretty good so far in 4th with easy tempo. Great to see someone else leading the rally :)


FRI 10:57 - SS3: TANAK
"We're making pace note changes, checking everything is right so we can go a bit faster next time."

[EstWRC]

haha, last time Tänak's car was missing now Protasov's wheel :D

[dimviii]

Meeke said till midstage was ok,after he had the flat tyre.How were his splits to Latvala at half stage? can t see any splits.

[dimviii]

haha, last time Tänak's car was missing now Protasov's wheel :D

lololol

FRI 11:20 - SS3: PROTASOV'S BACK
And he's brought with him the missing wheel, hub and drive-shaft. He and Cherepin are off to try and fit the bits back on the car.

[N.O.T]

Meeke said till midstage was ok,after he had the flat tyre.How were his splits to Latvala at half stage? can t see any splits.

only 1 split and final stage time for ss3... he was 3.8 on the split and 18sec slower at the end.

[dimviii]

after so many years we still have problems with splits.Idiots.

[EstWRC]

Meeke said till midstage was ok,after he had the flat tyre.How were his splits to Latvala at half stage? can t see any splits.

1st split +2.5 to Mikkelse, 2nd split +4.3 to Latvala, 3rd split +9.4 to Latvala.

[makinen_fan]

Meeke said till midstage was ok,after he had the flat tyre.How were his splits to Latvala at half stage? can t see any splits.

Splits relative to Andreas:
2 FINJ. LATVALA VOLKSWAGEN MOTORSPORT M +0.0 -2.5 -37.6 10:10.0
3 GBRK. MEEKE CITROËN TOTAL ABU DHABI WRT M +2.5 +1.9 -28.2 10:28.6

[EstWRC]

and splits now working great for me in wrc+ after stage 2.

[dimviii]

1st split +2.5 to Mikkelse, 2nd split +4.3 to Latvala, 3rd split +9.4 to Latvala.

so he was slower even with not flat tyre.

[AL14]

Meeke vs Latvala is a very interesting battle though.

[noel157]

so he was slower even with not flat tyre.

Splits SS3 for you D:

http://i.imgur.com/y2xhovu.jpg

[AL14]

Really impressed with Protasov times here and Mexico. I wonder why he was that slow with the WRC cars in MC and SWE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDXarbKXIAA1Sjp.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Kris !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDXZIU-UUAA6ydF.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe this was what made Ogier's engine go wrong ! https://youtu.be/loyutGl44ok

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon retired on the road section after service with a broken exhaust manifold...

[Mariusz]

Any info if Protasov made to the service?

[makinen_fan]

Any info if Protasov made to the service?

And she's ready to go... #ComeOnYurii Amazingly, 3:10 penalty and the Ukrainian is still 3rd overall in #WRC2 #WRC
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDXj-SDWMAAOVWj.jpg

[makinen_fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDXjOLAUIAAFRCM.jpg

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport 14 λεπτάΠριν από 14 λεπτά
#tyres information: Citroën/Latvala/M-Sport: 4 Michelin LTX Force H4 +2S4
Sordo/Neuville: 3S4 + 2h4
Mikkelsen: 4H4 + 1S4 #RallyArgentina

[dimviii]

FRI 12:38 - OSTBERG'S ENGINE PROBLEM?
Matton: “It’s not clear at the moment what happened. Maybe there was some water in the systems. After that, the engine was in safe mode and Mads was not able to reset the system until the road section to SS3.”

[dimviii]

Sordo pass at shakedown with 2 wheels on air
https://twitter.com/MundoRallyes/status/591604595941646337

[dimviii]

SS4 is live with Neuville into the stage, Mikkelsen has stopped on road section on way to SS4 with tech issues.

[rayh_mx]

PADDON OUT TOO
He didn't leave service. No big surprise considering the catalogue of mechanical problems his car collected this morning.

[mousti]

Neuville getting puncture on SS2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP6KO4UQ58g&feature=youtu.be

[hari]

Tanak stopped

Took a wheel off in a watersplash

[EstWRC]

damn Tänak!!!!! i just dont have words....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any info on the engine issue for Ogier ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDXkLX7W8AE-8d_.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

Tänak hit a rock in a watersplash....always unlucky this guy :(

[bluuford]

That is a crazy luck for Ott.. I belive this is the splash: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/49433187?source=wapi&referrer=kh.google.com

[stefanvv]

boring rally, it's about survival, not driving

[rayh_mx]

boring rally, it's about survival, not driving

And lot of time between SS :snore:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo near roll on SD vid: https://vine.co/v/ealQ9WbKrO5

[RS]

Modern day Safari?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke up on JML on splits :)

[stefanvv]

Modern day Safari?

Looks like it, but not quite

[Doon]

Meeke is going too fast....he will crash

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen back to the service now - https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally/status/591649799990050816/photo/1

[stefanvv]

Meeke is going too fast....he will crash

Yeah, if he manages it, would be great

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDX6kYKW4AAcgYM.jpg:large

Two VW's out on Day 1 now !!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke now 9s up on JML .. :)

[EstWRC]

half the guys basicially out....portugal cant come soon enough!

[AL14]

Although my liking is for Latvala I d'like Meeke will do it. He deserves a win.

[N.O.T]

Although my liking is for Latvala I d'like Meeke will do it. He deserves a win.

he deserves a win ? where ? or why ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

half the guys basicially out...

Everyone was warned how tough it was going to be...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great stage Meeke and says he was just wanting a clean run, not pushing. :)

"I'm at my own 95%, where I seem to be all the time."

[EstWRC]

Prokop will be on the podium here, im actually wishing it

[stefanvv]

good advantage for Meeke so far, I'm not sure he can keep it, but anyway fingers crossed for him. A win will boost his confidence

[AL14]

he deserves a win ? where ? or why ?

Where? somewhere
Why? He showed speed with his citroen that is an inferior car. Yes he crashes too much, he doesn't deserve to be world champion but one rally win would be fair imo.
Plus he had several disappointments and as a sensitive guy I hope sad people will be happy one day.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

O/A after SS4
Meeke
JML+28.7
Ostberg+1.03.3
Sordo+1.43.7
Evans+1.50.5
Prokop+2.51.5
Neuville+4.57.8

[stefanvv]

for sure Meeke deserves a wrc win. He has done very good speed

[EstWRC]

Of course he deserves and i hope he will win but a long way still to go.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDYCzJBW0AAb4EI.jpg:large

[Ounin]

Although my liking is for Latvala I d'like Meeke will do it. He deserves a win.

Meeke deserves a win for sure
latvala needs a win for secure

[janvanvurpa]

Don't want to. I've noticed that Google pushes quite relevant ads based on my google searches so I sometimes do click those ads. Thanks for the tip though.


How many ads for Kossu do you need?

And what are you searching Internet for more kossu for?:confused:

[Tom206wrc]

I've never seen Meeke so fast overall on a rally up to now, very good, let's hope he can keep this position until sunday :)

[AL14]

BTW, it seems Tanak has a really bad relationship with the water

[jonkka]

How many ads for Kossu do you need?

And what are you searching Internet for more kossu for?:confused:

Perhaps it's down to too much kossu with vichy (eg. kossy) but I don't recall googling kossu nor telling about it here, whether I googled or did not. So I kinda wonder who's been kossying?

[stefanvv]

BTW, it seems Tanak has a really bad relationship with the water

why?

[jarauto2]

bc Ti-Tanak :laugh: