Rally Guanajuato México 2015

[Negaiss]

1. Build 5 zero number Euro car;
2. Pay some buck to transport it over Atlantic;
3. Buy some World class tyres to drive for some minutes;
4. Find some gold to pay emergency divers and rescue crew to winch that Ford out of lake;
5. Rebuild most of a car (not cheap I guess);
6. Use some extra dollar to ship that wreck back to Europe.

#WRC - not a cheap sport I guess!!!

[Francis44]

All my hope now for a decent challenger for Ogier in the near future rest with Neuville, hopefully Hyundai nails it with the new car. Latvala is the same every year even though we always give him a chance.

[KKS]

Stage LIVE
http://cricfree.sx/bt-sport-2-live-stream

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g31acUsAEbund.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g31t0UcAAACby.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g3r3iUwAAxOxG.png

[AL14]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g31acUsAEbund.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g31t0UcAAACby.jpg

You can say everything you want against this guy, and maybe you are right but I'll always feel sorry for him, and I will always give him a chance.

[Rallyper]

You can say everything you want against this guy, and maybe you are right but I'll always feel sorry for him, and I will always give him a chance.

Well, I know what you mean. And can agree, though it starts to be annoying to watch every rally...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier is good, but these guys are making it waaaaaay too easy for him...

[AL14]

Well, I know what you mean. And can agree, though it starts to be annoying to watch every rally...

Yes it is, but I became a rally fan just one year and a half ago so I'm not yet annoyed like you :)

[stefanvv]

I will always consider better try and fail, than not try at all....

[dimviii]

Well, I know what you mean. And can agree, though it starts to be annoying to watch every rally...

Per i am sorry for him too,but he is just not champion material.
Always struggling at 1st days with car set up.After some stages he finds it(not always) he takes some stage wins,and then crash.We have seen this scenario for years.
Pitty cause we need competition.Unfortunately Ogier is too fast for all of them.

[Rallyper]

Per i am sorry for him too,but he is just not champion material.
Always struggling at 1st days with car set up.After some stages he finds it(not always) he takes some stage wins,and then crash.We have seen this scenario for years.
Pitty cause we need competition.Unfortunately Ogier is too fast for all of them.

He has the speed, but not confident and not consistent...

[Rallyper]

Yes it is, but I became a rally fan just one year and a half ago so I'm not yet annoyed like you :)

Keep it on. I will to. Been a fan since beginning of the 60´s (only seven yrs back then...)

[jonkka]

I will always consider better try and fail, than not try at all....

I would rather die than fail.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier almost sounds embarassed how easy it is for him to win.

"Its not normal I am here.."

[jonkka]

What is Ostberg doing? :eek:

[stefanvv]

I would rather die than fail.

Yeap, and he is dying a little each time he fails...

[janvanvurpa]

Bättre lyss till den sträng som brast än att aldrig spänna ett båge....

I donät understand how they can make such perfect engines and gearboxes and have such long travel suspension, and not make the links and the bolts and the uprights fail+proof.. You know so the links and bolts BEND and not break...If links bend, then there some chance to reach service and replace parts.. It breaks---because made so lightweight, then you're buggered...

Years ago I was looking at broken compression strut for a WRC Escort Cosworth and the wall thickness of the link was very very thing, maybe 1,2mm wall The whole part weighed maybe 500g.....But that failure caused a DNF....
Shirley it would be better to weigh 900g and finish...
I think the F1 mentality has infected the designers..

[stefanvv]

Sat 12:36 - SS13: Ostberg
He completes 17.7sec slower than Ogier. What happened? "There is something wrong with my right-front. I spun on the first corner. I don't know what the problem is." Mikkelsen is now just 9.7sec behind.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sordo wins the stage.. Finally someone takes advantage of their road position.

[dimviii]

UPDATE: Sordo is leaking gearbox oil similar to Neuville at the previous stage! #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_g9_o7U8AAqKrj.jpg

[noel157]

The way things are going there should be maybe 3 or 4 cars left not on rally 2 tomorrow afternoon.
.

[nafpaktos]

Ogier almost sounds embarassed how easy it is for him to win.

"Its not normal I am here.."

Ogier said it,so its absolutely normal.

[stefanvv]

Bättre lyss till den sträng som brast än att aldrig spänna ett båge....

I donät understand how they can make such perfect engines and gearboxes and have such long travel suspension, and not make the links and the bolts and the uprights fail+proof.. You know so the links and bolts BEND and not break...If links bend, then there some chance to reach service and replace parts.. It breaks---because made so lightweight, then you're buggered...

Years ago I was looking at broken compression strut for a WRC Escort Cosworth and the wall thickness of the link was very very thing, maybe 1,2mm wall The whole part weighed maybe 500g.....But that failure caused a DNF....
Shirley it would be better to weigh 900g and finish...
I think the F1 mentality has infected the designers..

Colin McRae had lot of mileage on 3 wheels. It can't be the real problem here

[noel157]

Coverage of Tanak rebuild on the live stage broadcast.

[noel157]

Colin McRae had lot of mileage on 3 wheels. It can't be the real problem here


But a problem for the FIA these days.

[Rallyper]

Colin McRae had lot of mileage on 3 wheels. It can't be the real problem here

Three wheels yes, but speed? No.

[stefanvv]

Sordo bags the highest average speed of the rally so far: 105.36kph.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier said it,so its absolutely normal.

It is normal now, sadly.

No-one challenging Ogier, even with road position advantages.

Even Loeb had to try harder to win such events.

[stefanvv]

But a problem for the FIA these days.

FIA will always have problems. If they don't, they have to make some.

[HaCo]

Great to see Sordo pushing!

[gorganl2000]

i suppose we need a bit better from both the cars and drivers

[KKS]

We have Kubica and it doesn't work.

Why not work? it's works, but it's only one driver in a field... bring five Kubica's to WRC and champ will be more and more interesing... different stage winners, fast drive... despite even if Ogier still be winning every rally.

[PLuto]

Colin McRae had lot of mileage on 3 wheels. It can't be the real problem here

Regulations has changed...

[ELPE]

Why not work? it's works, but it's only one driver in a field... bring five Kubica's to WRC and champ will be more and more interesing... different stage winners, fast drive... despite even if Ogier still be winning every rally.

It does not work well when the teams picks up driver who can pay for themselves rather than for drivers who have talent . I think there are drivers who would do a much better job than many of the drivers who now try to beat Ogier.

/Håkan

[stefanvv]

Why not work? it's works, but it's only one driver in a field... bring five Kubica's to WRC and champ will be more and more interesing... different stage winners, fast drive... despite even if Ogier still be winning every rally.

If we have 5 x Kubica, I'm afraid NOT will burst

[Bartek]

Why not work? it's works, but it's only one driver in a field... bring five Kubica's to WRC and champ will be more and more interesing... different stage winners, fast drive... despite even if Ogier still be winning every rally.

I agree with you. I said that it doesn't work because Kubica doesn't have proper results. In my opinion nowadays we have to many Ostberg's not McRae's...

[dimviii]

Tanaks duck ready to swim.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_hLlWMUsAAMtJg.jpg

iRally ‏@Official_iRally 7 λεπτάΠριν από 7 λεπτά Προβολή μετάφρασης
Ogier has arrived 1 minute late for SS14 #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[Mariusz]

Lol, I guess the too soft Pirellis helped Kubica to get another stage win ;)

[Mirek]

FIA will always have problems. If they don't, they have to make some.

Actually this rule is good. The problem in the past was that sometimes local police closed their eyes and let the driver go on three wheels over the public roads but on another day in another country the police stopped such car and didn't allow the driver to continue. Such situation was anything but fair. Making a clear rule was a step ahead.

[dimviii]

(8 - Sordo Dani / Martí Marc): Not bad, but I'm sure we have benefited from our road position. Now our gearbox is broken, and we need to swap it in service. The problem is the replacement gearbox has a problem too.

[latek]

Fiesta drivers on Pirelli never dissapoint on those super specials !

[janvanvurpa]

Regulations has changed...

Stupid British cop: You can't drive like that
Grönholm: Oh yes I can drive like this....

Stupid British cop: No you cannot

Grönholm (thinking to self) you stupid bastid of course I can. What do you think I was doing before you stick your pig-snout in? I was driving!!!! And I CAN drive like this!) But says ÄI can, but you mean I may not...

I tear a rear corner off before, and as soon as we found the wheel ( I wasn't leaving a real Minilite and good 'tire out in the woods :arrows:), we finish stage and transit..too bad I had no spares for that that day.:bigcry:

Rules change so logically make the stuff more break resistant++bend instead.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/_processed_/csm_Sebastien-Ogier-Rallye-Mexiko-Tag-1_8dcfc84746.jpg

[KKS]

Gorban front wing in use :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQ3Wos9tz4

[dimviii]

Gorban front wing in use :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQ3Wos9tz4

-50 ps more

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala sad return

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_heQfXWIAAz4hP.jpg

[KKS]

-50 ps more

+ more fresh air to engine :D

[Muchonen]

Fiesta drivers on Pirelli never dissapoint on those super specials !

And then it slips off the rim on stage... NOT worth at all

[KKS]

Tanak onboard O_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rTRmTW2sc

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak onboard O_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rTRmTW2sc

They were so lucky the car landed in the water upright.

Unlike this driver: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLHGC5Wz_V8

[KKS]

Good splits for Mikkelsen, he wants Mads..... position :)

[latek]

Tanak onboard O_O
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49rTRmTW2sc

Great video camera position anyway!

[KKS]

Mads 4.8 slower than Mikkelsen, battle battle battle

[noel157]

Can't see Mads holding him back.

[KKS]

Sordo lose 1 minute due to front puncture. Rock on the road :(

[dimviii]

SORDO UPDATE: Front left puncture, front wing is off, front bumper is damaged

[sete]

and where is Prokop?

[Rallyper]

It does not work well when the teams picks up driver who can pay for themselves rather than for drivers who have talent . I think there are drivers who would do a much better job than many of the drivers who now try to beat Ogier.

/Håkan

Spot on mate. So may drivers out there to match even Ogier, but doesn´t afford.

[sete]

is there ok.
sorry

[dimviii]

and where is Prokop?

Prokop 17:59.0 "Finally things are going well

[sete]

Sordo
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19121_b_hsauaweaaqxcg.jpg

[KKS]

Sordo
http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19121_b_hsauaweaaqxcg.jpg

it looks terrible

[KKS]

Dani should surrive that 43km stage with his car! Last Hyundai without superally

[KKS]

And Gorban seems to no restart after his stop on stage SS15 :(

[arko5]

Kubica stopped...
He is moving again. Puncture?

[KKS]

Looks like...

[KKS]

In same occasion Meeke was slower than Neuville. Hyundai seems build good car.

[AL14]

In same occasion Meeke was slower than Neuville. Hyundai seems build good car.

Do you guys think new i20 could really challenge VWs? Or it's still too early? With challenge I mean be on the same level not win some stages sometimes.

[KKS]

Mads up 3.6 sec on Mikkelsen... c'mon!!!

[KKS]

Do you guys think new i20 could really challenge VWs? Or it's still too early? With challenge I mean be on the same level not win some stages sometimes.
They start challenge Citroen... it's good steps :)

[AL14]

They start challenge Citroen... it's good steps :)

Yes right. I'm just hungry for strong battles. :)

[KKS]

Kubica have puncture on stage, change it and at the end he had another wheel with no right placed rubber?

[ASRTmedia]

They start challenge Citroen... it's good steps :)

Aha... and Loeb sit in Citroen and suddenly i20 challange is over :D

[noel157]

We might see loeb back once or possibly twice more this season.

[KKS]

Todays DS3 it's not a C4 or Xsara - :(
Loeb+DS3 = Good but not best.

[KKS]

Protasov in trouble!!! +40.7

[KKS]

agrrr Protasov stopped.... hope "just" puncture

[KKS]

First half Mads was faster and faster on a 2nd half - start to lose his gap. But it enough to win a stage :)

[KKS]

agrrr Protasov stopped.... hope "just" puncture

and it's not :(

[tolis]

What happened to Protasov?

[noel157]

What happened Yuriy?

[ASRTmedia]

1. Ostberg Mads - Andersson Jonas ("You try to push a bit more and then you feel like you're on the limit.") Time:29:30.0

2. Ogier Sébastien - Ingrassia Julien ("Trying to be safe now, no reason to push.") Time:29:31.7 +1.7 sec


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1596470229/facepalm1.jpg

[smsgrafica]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150307-5492-low-VW-WRC15-03-HEM1-8803.jpg

[N.O.T]

easy win by Ogier...

Latvala - Meeke and Ostberg are just a waste of time a resources.... worthless.

VW should promote mikkelsen to no2 and sack that potato bag Latvala... we had enough of him all these years... he is just a mentally weak child... let him go back to his mommy.

Its good i will be at rally epynt tomorrow than bleed my eyes with a bunch of little kids trying to beat the only man in the sport.

[KKS]

+0.3 slower Mads... and -5.7 in o/a.

[PLuto]

Does anybody have info about WRC2? Protasov stopped on SS 16, we know nothing. Gorban stopped, we dont know the reason. Now Ketomaa is loosing time, but why?

[KKS]

Does anybody have info about WRC2? Protasov stopped on SS 16, we know nothing. Gorban stopped, we dont know the reason. Now Ketomaa is loosing time, but why?

Protasov - no info
Gorban - goes off and team sent a truck to bring car to service

[PLuto]

Protasov - no info
Gorban - goes off and team sent a truck to bring car to service

Thanks. Informations on official pages regarding non-WRC crews are disaster.

[PLuto]

So, Protasov engine...

[KKS]

strange... maybe goes off - damage radiator, start to continue and couldn't.

[noel157]

eWRC saying he had an accident.

#38 flag Protasov Yuriy - Cherepin Pavlo icon Ford Fiesta RRC Accident

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFGEXf8-gVg
Tanak underwater and rescue operation, and stages 11-13 )

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_iOi_1W8AAhwYc.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_iOjB9WQAABbPv.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_iOjZmWIAIO8hs.jpg

two punctures for Meeke after SS17

[Mariusz]

So sorry for Yuriy, he was very fast.

[PLuto]

eWRC saying he had an accident.

#38 flag Protasov Yuriy - Cherepin Pavlo icon Ford Fiesta RRC Accident

I know that he has stopped due to overheating of engine, to prevent not to have serious damage...

[Co-driven]

I've noticed on Hyundai's day one video highlights that Marc Marti had a helmet that looked to be the 'composite' version instead of the carbon one. Isn't it mandatory to WRC cars crews to use 8860 homologated helmets?

[Rallyper]

easy win by Ogier...

Latvala - Meeke and Ostberg are just a waste of time a resources.... worthless.

VW should promote mikkelsen to no2 and sack that potato bag Latvala... we had enough of him all these years... he is just a mentally weak child... let him go back to his mommy.

Its good i will be at rally epynt tomorrow than bleed my eyes with a bunch of little kids trying to beat the only man in the sport.

You seem disappointed. Only Ogier to compete next year then. Everyone else is just doggy tourists? Oh, yes I forgot. Two VW´s it should be.

[stefanvv]

Now we have 3 drivers with times similar to Ogier's at least for some part of the rally, rather than 2 by now. That is some progress.

Any news about what is going on with Tanak's Fiesta?

[EstWRC]

Now we have 3 drivers with times similar to Ogier's at least for some part of the rally, rather than 2 by now. That is some progress.

Any news about what is going on with Tanak's Fiesta?

should be alright, just a damn sensor was messing yesterday

Ott Tänak (28th) said:

"The boys did an awesome job last night so it was a real shame for everyone not to be able to start the stages today. In the end it was just a really small detail that stopped us this morning – literally just a sensor! It's fixed now and we're ready to get out in the morning.

"It's really important for myself and Raigo [Mõlder, co-driver] to get back out tomorrow. It's the only way to regain the pace. We need to do some driving and as we don't have any pressure we can just enjoy these amazing stages. We need to get back on the horse and keep pushing."

[stefanvv]

should be alright, just a damn sensor was messing yesterday

Ott Tänak (28th) said:

"The boys did an awesome job last night so it was a real shame for everyone not to be able to start the stages today. In the end it was just a really small detail that stopped us this morning – literally just a sensor! It's fixed now and we're ready to get out in the morning.

Thanks. A sensor it is just part of the electronics, so it is normal to be faulty after flood.

[stefanvv]

Interesting to see what could broke THE TANK :D

His mistake was not that big, re bouncing the car back to the wall did the real damage. But it was purely driver error anyway, too much speed on tightening corner.

[dimviii]

borl day 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvKlYbbrexQ


vw day 2 with incar from Latvala crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWBL5ZbtnSE

[stefanvv]

nice video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhxLgmrh8E

[A FONDO]

nice video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFhxLgmrh8E
Very good job, this guy knows what to do
Also here from 1:35 :roll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czEJzDhPr2w

[Wim_Impreza]

Todays DS3 it's not a C4 or Xsara - :(
Loeb+DS3 = Good but not best.

Loeb did very good times in Monte-Carlo with the DS3. I still think the DS3 is very competitive.

For me, Mads Østberg and Kris Meeke are not as good as Ogier, Neuville, Latvala and Mikkelsen.

[A FONDO]

http://cs622827.vk.me/v622827746/2425c/0DDUGtZ8on4.jpg

[EstWRC]

todays start order http://www.rallymexico.com/files/rep/5.7_Start_List_Section_6.pdf

[bluuford]

Back from London. Looking todays weather forcats and I can see that they had another cold nigh. It seems that wind is turning today in the morning, that means some periods without any wind. It should happen somewhere between 8-10 am, so, today might be the only day with dust issue probability.
Temperature should be around +15..+17 during the first stage and up to +22..+23 during the powerstage.

[KKS]

Gorban's off
http://eurolamp-wrt.com/images/igallery/resized/201-300/Mexico2015_out_01-219-800-600-80.jpg
http://eurolamp-wrt.com/images/igallery/resized/201-300/Mexico2015_out_02-220-800-600-80.jpg
http://eurolamp-wrt.com/images/igallery/resized/201-300/Mexico2015_out_04-222-800-600-80.jpg

And team says it's not restarted today

[KKS]

And Gorban onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nBHj3Vqky0

[tommeke_B]

Good all spectators got away in time... What was that car he hit by the way, some home-made tuningcar? It's ugly as hell. :D

[KKS]

Loeb did very good times in Monte-Carlo with the DS3. I still think the DS3 is very competitive.

For me, Mads Østberg and Kris Meeke are not as good as Ogier, Neuville, Latvala and Mikkelsen.

Cuz it Loeb :)
Seems DS3 not developing since Loeb's retired.

[stefanvv]

And Gorban onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nBHj3Vqky0

ouch

[stefanvv]

Good all spectators got away in time... What was that car he hit by the way, some home-made tuningcar? It's ugly as hell. :D

It looked to me as Fiat Coupe at first, but it is not. Ugly nontheless.

[stefanvv]

Cuz it Loeb :)
Seems DS3 not developing since Loeb's retired.

DS3 had new engine at Monte. planned more upgrades, but I'm not sure when and which.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And Gorban onboard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nBHj3Vqky0

Why do they put music over these videos, especially with a great sounding car like the Mini ?? :(

[AL14]

Am I wrong or wrc+ onboards seem to have a better quality than usual?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala & Sordo after crashes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNKBcAXV6pY&feature=youtu.be

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yesterday was an all-time low for Meeke after yet another mistake, even getting comforted by Mr Crash himself, Kubica... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_khDpWW8AIj81D.jpg

[dimviii]

^^^^^what a photo!^^^^^

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_kzjt9U8AAdUtJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_jESrwWEAAW_FU.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/_processed_/csm_Citroen-Mads-Ostberg-Rallye-Mexiko-2015_816a2a7d85.jpg

[Allyc85]

Yesterday was an all-time low for Meeke after yet another mistake, even getting comforted by Mr Crash himself, Kubica... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_khDpWW8AIj81D.jpg

What other mistake did Meeke do yesterday?

Anyone seen his "POV" camera angle on WRC+ feels like you are hanging off the front left of the car in the scenery...

[AL14]

Yesterday was an all-time low for Meeke after yet another mistake, even getting comforted by Mr Crash himself, Kubica... :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_khDpWW8AIj81D.jpg

Is he baptizing him in the name of...Jesus Crash? Is Kris now a proper Crashtian? :D

Joking aside it's a kind of a touching picture, only WRC can deliver such stories. Love that.

[MartijnS]

Better shot of Tanak his crash.

http://youtu.be/hsbqH6s_lcE

[gorganl2000]

Loeb did very good times in Monte-Carlo with the DS3. I still think the DS3 is very competitive.

For me, Mads Østberg and Kris Meeke are not as good as Ogier, Neuville, Latvala and Mikkelsen.

i think that's because its loeb to some extent, though the Citroen drivers have said they felt the difference on the new engine as well. while i was very happy that loeb was still competitive in MC, i was also a bit worried for the other drivers apart from ogier. we had loeb who was somewhat retired for 1.5 years from wrc coming back and beating drivers who are there all the time and from a not so good starting position at that.
it just shows loeb and ogier are quite exceptional and you could probably put them in any car in wrc and they would do well against the current group of wrc drivers

then yesterday there was a post where ogier was 1.7 secs behind mads on a stage, but what really stood out was the difference in their stage end comments.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What other mistake did Meeke do yesterday?



Must've been from Friday, unless it was after he had to slow down towards the end of SS16.. 'Kubica was right in front of us, we had to drive 35km in his dust.' :rolleyes:

He doesnt look too happy this morning either...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_k9ThQWQAAvMKm.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

TiTanak ready to go again ! :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_leRV9W8AAyKRa.jpg

[dimviii]

Better shot of Tanak his crash.

http://youtu.be/hsbqH6s_lcE

at this video is clearly visible the intercom cable that Ott couldn t disconnect while car was sinking.


lol

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_leRV9W8AAyKRa.jpg

[RAS007]

The only interesting thing left in this rally is the fight for second. Is Mads going to be able to stay in front of Mikkelsen? I hope so.

[stefanvv]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/90/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_138_359024_54fbfc72e.jpghttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/90/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_159_359028_54fbfc761.jpghttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_119_358325_54faaeb97.jpg

[dimviii]

i have made a cold coffee.My son with my wife are at his friends party.
i am at my armchair,with some 8 pages opened,and waiting for the last day.

Brace yourselves, 55,8 km Guanajuatito is coming.

[stefanvv]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_113_358330_54faaebdc.jpghttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/83/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_121_358378_54faaee8e.jpghttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/90/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_146_359064_54fbfc939.jpg

[stefanvv]

Amazing photo:
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/35/78/Rallye_Mexiko_2015_073_357829_54f95bf73.jpg

[EstWRC]

wuhuuuuuu Tänak finally going :p

[KKS]

Yeahhhh Tanak finaly run his car :)

[KKS]

Why do they put music over these videos, especially with a great sounding car like the Mini ?? :(

They always do that in they promo videos... could't refrain here too

[eib1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_linb7WAAAHkhd.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yeahhhh Tanak finaly run his car :)

They found a fish in the car !! :laugh:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_iw2FRUwAAa4SM.jpg

[stefanvv]

:D. Yeah, almost a movie story

[MikeD]

Hmm if Ogier wins this one, then congrats to him ... but it means the championship is basically decided already. I still don't get why Latvala is still in the WRC. The amount of win, podiums and points this guy throws away...

[KKS]

then yesterday there was a post where ogier was 1.7 secs behind mads on a stage, but what really stood out was the difference in their stage end comments.

Never trust Ogier comments.

[dimviii]

TYRE INFO: Ostberg, Ogier & Mikkelsen on 4 Michelin LTX Force H + 1s. Latvala on 4h & 2s. Meeke on 6h. Tanak on 5h. Evans on 5h + 1s.

[KKS]

i have made a cold coffee.My son with my wife are at his friends party.
i am at my armchair,with some 8 pages opened,and waiting for the last day.

Brace yourselves, 55,8 km Guanajuatito is coming.
Some time ago I have enough one monitor to follow WRC events. Now I have two monitors, and I think I would buy another one :)

[KKS]

They found a fish in the car !! :laugh:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_iw2FRUwAAa4SM.jpg
Maybe fish eat that "broken" sensor? :D

[dimviii]

TYRE INFO: Ostberg, Ogier & Mikkelsen on 4 Michelin LTX Force H + 1s. Latvala on 4h & 2s. Meeke on 6h. Tanak on 5h. Evans on 5h + 1s.

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport 1 λεπτόΠριν από 1 λεπτό Προβολή μετάφρασης
Tyres Information: Neuville/Paddon: 5 #Michelin LTX Force Hard, Sordo: 4H+2S #wrc #rallymexico

[AL14]

Bertelli stopped. No one cares about him but well, he seems stopped.

[jonkka]

Hmm if Ogier wins this one, then congrats to him ... but it means the championship is basically decided already.

It also means an end to an era. With Ogier winning here, French drivers have won as many rallies as Finnish drivers and that's a record that has stood a very long time and now it's about to be broken.

[KKS]

VW splits doen't work until 2 cars on finish grrrrrrrr

[stefanvv]

It also means an end to an era. With Ogier winning here, French drivers have won as many rallies as Finnish drivers and that's a record that has stood a very long time and now it's about to be broken.

That is probably sad. Anyway how many rallies are they?

[jonkka]

That is probably sad. Anyway how many rallies are they?

Currently 172 wins for Finns, one less for French. Soon to be equal.

[stefanvv]

Ostberg is seriously going for it

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC records are so hard to compare over the different era's... the WRC rallies over the last couple of decades are so much more sprint events, compared to the 5-day, big road mileage, day and night endurance events they used to be...

[dimviii]

Ostberg QUICKER than Mikkelsen at opening split! 4.7 up on Andreas! #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[noel157]

Great story with Tanak and glad all is ok but RR are fairly milking it.

[stefanvv]

Lazy start by Mikkelsen, now quickest so far on Split2 (without Ostberg)

[dimviii]

iRally ‏@Official_iRally 19 δευτερόλεπταΠριν από 20 δευτερόλεπτα Προβολή μετάφρασης
Ostberg 3.8 QUICKER than Mikkelsen at Split 2! He is going for it! #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[cosmin_sb]

M-Sport found a fish in Tanak car :) :)

[RAS007]

Great story with Tanak and glad all is ok but RR are fairly milking it.

Agreed. M-Sport are really making the most of it as well. All this #titanak stuff is off for me, considering he is probably going to finish in last place. I think it was important for Tanak to get back in the saddle, and glad they are ok, but M-Sport don't have anything else to talk about (such as fighting for victories or podiums), so we get all this Titanak stuff. It also, for me, sums up the pointlessness of Rally2.

[dimviii]

SS19 UPDATE: Bertelli went off on a right-hander, his right rear wheel is missing #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[noel157]

Lazy start by Mikkelsen, now quickest so far on Split2 (without Ostberg)

Suspect he has last stage of Sweden on his mind perhaps. But I thought he would reel in Ostberg.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ott Tänak - 'Can you believe it!!! 10 hours in the water and we just finished 55km stage. Incredible feeling and big thanks @MSportLtd.'

[dimviii]

Tanak reportedly stopped past the stop line and hasn't moved any further #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[stefanvv]

Suspect he has last stage of Sweden on his mind perhaps. But I thought he would reel in Ostberg.

we'll see. Seems to pickup the speed now on split3

[EstWRC]

Tanak reportedly stopped past the stop line and hasn't moved any further #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

he had some small issues with steering, i guess he is trying to make it better.

[stefanvv]

Tanak reportedly stopped past the stop line and hasn't moved any further #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

changing tyre(s)? (propeller?)

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_luDA_W8AAPLGY.jpg

Ostberg 4 seconds quicker than Mikkelsen at Split 3 #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[Viking]

In fact, Østberg won this stage last year, 31sec faster than Mikkelsen at that time.

[dimviii]

Split 4, Ostberg 4,2 FASTER than Mikkelsen

[dimviii]

Tanak has still not moved, reports coming in that Latvala has stopped past the stop line as well #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

SS19 UPDATE: Latvala on the move, Tanak is still stopped past the stop line #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[dimviii]

Split 5, Ostberg 3,3 quicker than Mikkelsen

[dimviii]

Ostberg going for it! 4.2 quicker than mikkelsen at split 6!

[stefanvv]

ok, Ostberg fights back now, again 4.2 on 6th

[dimviii]

(7 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): It was a perfect stage. We had to be careful with the brakes between 40km and 50km. We took the jump flat out at 190kph.

[KKS]

Tanak has still not moved, reports coming in that Latvala has stopped past the stop line as well #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

SS19 UPDATE: Latvala on the move, Tanak is still stopped past the stop line #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

only 8km between stages

[dimviii]

edit
Final split, Ostberg 3,3 FASTER than Mikkelsen

[MikeD]

Currently 172 wins for Finns, one less for French. Soon to be equal.

Hmm I wasn't aware - thanks for interesting info. Looks like France is on a roll with more talent coming. Not quite convinced I see that same development from Finland. Why aren't there the same amount of talent from Finland as there used to be?

[stefanvv]

on the long straight little before finish - Mikkelsen 193km/h vs. Ostberg 196 km/h

[dimviii]

from which source is this stefan?

[stefanvv]

from which source is this stefan?

wrc+, You can take it if You trust enough:)

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen spun at 45km #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

[EstWRC]

Tänak still not moving, his start is in 7 minutes.

[gorganl2000]

Never trust Ogier comments.

i know the drivers like to play mind games, but at that point he was comfortably leading the rally so it seems his comments maybe a bit more believable.

[KKS]

Protasov back under SupeRally and PUSHING!!!! 40 sec faster than NAsser

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SUN 11:06 - SS19: MIKKELSEN
He's pushing hard to close the 4.5sec gap to Ostberg in second - but nearly threw it all away. "I had a spin at 45km. I needed to reverse to get going again."

Didnt lost so much time considering !

[bluuford]

Tänak still not moving, his start is in 7 minutes.
Maybe it is GPS problem? He is stopped with the speed 67km/h?

[Viking]

Mikkelsen spun at 45km #WRC #RallyMexico #iRally

Splits would make more sense if it was 4,5km... seems to me he lost time before first split.

[EstWRC]

Maybe it is GPS problem? He is stopped with the speed 67km/h?

i hope so

[dimviii]

Splits would make more sense if it was 4,5km... seems to me he lost time before first split.

me too,from splits i cant see where he spun.The difference was always at all splits between 3-4 secs.Spin and reverse without loosing some 10 sec?

[A FONDO]

Ogi still beating the "fighting" norwegians 527

[dimviii]

Tanak is at the start of SS20!

[KKS]

And looks like... if things stay like this, that rythm Protasov can gain two positions. Rendina 28 sec and Tempestini +3.12

[noel157]

Gérald Wery:
Le direct #WRC Mexique sera diffusé sur le site internet #RTBF Sport en raison du Tennis qui se prolonge

[noel157]

Looks a bigger accident than reported:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_l2--cU0AAdJtZ.jpg

[tommeke_B]

Gérald Wery:
Le direct #WRC Mexique sera diffusé sur le site internet #RTBF Sport en raison du Tennis qui se prolonge

http://www.rtbf.be/livecenter/ - Live-stream can be found here. Of course comments will be French.

[bluuford]

As long as guys like Bertelli and Kubica are buying car parts from M-Sport, the manufacturer team should not feel any lack of cash..

[Medved]

Looks a bigger accident than reported:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_l2--cU0AAdJtZ.jpg

It is from 2014 I think

[Roy]

Looks a bigger accident than reported:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_l2--cU0AAdJtZ.jpg

This pic is from last year! It has a red WRC banner. That's for WRC2. This year he drive with green WRC banner. And is wrong license plate.

His car this year rally mexico:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2015/1340/1340_rally_guanajuato_mexico_2015_6965779173.jpg

[KKS]

Protasov 1min faster than Ketomaa and +1.26 to Nasser... wow

[drive]

http://cricfree.sx/espn-live-stream WRC PS live from 6pm UK time

[Ralph-Mario]

Many thx.

[Medved]

Bertelli - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=564632443640391&set=vb.162847070485599&type=2&theater

[ik1911]

Neuville will finish 8th!

[noel157]

You would think Mr Billot would do things properly, makes me look like a plonker : )

http://i.imgur.com/Aa37SpZ.png

Green, Fiesta= must be Bertelli...

[Ralph-Mario]

I think so too.

[noel157]

Bertelli - https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=564632443640391&set=vb.162847070485599&type=2&theater

Weird crash. Wrong note or brain fade or steering failure?

[KKS]

another +0.6 :)

[A FONDO]

for people with ace stream- here in serbian

http://avod.me/play/1db78c31b71b5ee26236b2d881a9bd9a02aabbf3

[stefanvv]

Weird crash. Wrong note or brain fade or steering failure?

there is a compression just after the corner, I would suggest Fiesta compression problem

[noel157]

there is a compression just after the corner, I would suggest Fiesta compression problem

Maybe, similar to yesterday, slight less wet.
I'm sure we'll find out from him.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_l_sKiUcAA7O67.jpg

[stefanvv]

Maybe, similar to yesterday, slight less wet.

less wet, but still dives, ouch

[noel157]

More drama with Bobby and his suspension.

[RAS007]

WRC+ commentating is woeful.

[stefanvv]

some wild drive from Latvala there

[jonkka]

some wild drive from Latvala there

Too little, too late.

[gorganl2000]

neuville really went for it

he's getting as much as he can out of his car...some serious driving/commitment

[KKS]

Welldone MAds!!! You got it!

[stefanvv]

Too little, too late.

probably, that's what they show

[Viking]

Mikkelsens 3`rd podium this year, 2`nd in championship. Not bad in the old car... :)

[stefanvv]

oh my God, Ogier should be careful to finish this rally:D

[RAS007]

Great result for Ostberg. Really happy for him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No contest.. Ogier is actually pulling further away from the rest.

[AL14]

Ogier will match Loeb's 9 championships easily.

[EightGear]

The body language of Neuville, Mikkelsen and Ostberg after seeing Ogier's time said enough.

[Sulland]

Has to be the first name and nationality - but superb Sebastians is beginning to be a bit boring!

[stefanvv]

Well done again Mr. Ogier, bravo!

[tommeke_B]

Crazy what Ogier has been showing... Everything is so perfect, almost too perfect. We need the other Seb back! :p

[dimviii]

Ogier will match Loeb's 9 championships easily.

with such this competition will make easily 15.
When second at the championship goes as fast as he can for the 2nd position and you can be 0,5 sec/km faster, there is no competition at all.
Sadly but true.

congrats to Ogier.Show them who is the boss best way.

[stefanvv]

with such this competition will make easily 15.

What is wrong with the competition?

[stefanvv]

Everything is so perfect, almost too perfect. We need the other Seb back! :p

Yes almost.... I'm afraid other "Seb back" will be only "Setback" anyway....

[latek]

So Ogier was serious yestarday when said he was driving slow. He had a lot in hand when needed.

[RAS007]

What is wrong with the competition?

Agreed. Certainly more competition than the Leotard faced after 2007.

[Negaiss]

Have to admit, that Ogier iz crazy good! He was crazy fast and high and far on jump in powerstage - looked like landed already in a direction needed for next corner! And now he almost can afford to retire one rally. That means he is not under preassure and will win every remaining event!

[dimviii]

What is wrong with the competition?

competition? where did you saw it?

[dimviii]

Agreed. Certainly more competition than the Leotard faced after 2007.

you forgot some championships against 4-5 world champions.

[dimviii]

Crazy what Ogier has been showing... Everything is so perfect, almost too perfect. We need the other Seb back! :p

NO!!
stefanvv said there is competition.Didn t you watch it?

[A FONDO]

Ostberg survived Mikelsen this time but I'm afraid it is just an occasion.

Paddon not just slow but also crashing this time. But I'm sure there will be hollow excuses again. Sordo again useless when TN also had gearbox problems, the car seems good enough with reasonable hands (and feet) in the cockpit.

Roll on the next dusty event.

[KKS]

I think all in pacenotes, he use Loeb system? Cuz pacenotes sound equal from both.

BTW can somebody translate Loeb pacenotes? For example twisty Corsica onboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTBcVBp2Z8U

[dimviii]

lol selftrolling at its best!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_mSJ7AWwAAS-pd.jpg

[stefanvv]

competition? where did you saw it?

I saw 3 other drivers to match his pace on some stages. That is good enough for me.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_mSORhVEAAVky6.jpg

[dimviii]

I saw 3 other drivers to match his pace on some stages. That is good enough for me.

so you didn t understant nothing 3 days now.

[A FONDO]

so you didn t understant nothing 3 days now.

Whit your speaking skills it is really hard to underwhatever. How could you be in this forum from 8 years and not learn casual phrases from the simplest language on the planet?

[stefanvv]

so you didn t understant nothing 3 days now.

I think I understood something, but I might be wrong.... Didn't Neuville just impressed with his pace last 2 rallies (I'm adding him just as another to Latvala & Meeke), I'm not talking about reliability of course, just the pace.

[AL14]

I think I understood something, but I might be wrong.... Didn't Neuville just impressed with his pace last 2 rallies (I'm adding him just as another to Latvala & Meeke), I'm not talking about reliability of course, just the pace.

Ogier gave 10 seconds opening the road to the others in a stage. 10 seconds in the most loose gravel rally of the champioship. In the power stage gave 6 seconds in 3 corneers. There is not competition, it's clear. Sometimes others matched him but it's clear they are far behind. It doesn't mean Ogier is not a good driver and others are shit. It means Ogier is a very very good driver and others are shit by now.

[tommeke_B]

Whit your speaking skills it is really hard to underwhatever. How could you be in this forum from 8 years and not learn casual phrases from the simplest language on the planet?
What's this comment for?

Greek is very different from English, and there are plenty of people who speak English as their first language who make mistakes as well. At least what he's trying to tell makes sense AND is interesting to read, something I can't say from your posts...

[Barreis]

WRC still in crises... If Neuville is in polo, it should be propper fight. This is still lemonade...

[dimviii]

I think I understood something, but I might be wrong.... Didn't Neuville just impressed with his pace last 2 rallies (I'm adding him just as another to Latvala & Meeke), I'm not talking about reliability of course, just the pace.

impreseed with his pace? did you notice that he finished 22 minutes from leader?
fast times which resulted to crash we have seen from plenty drivers(Latvala,Kubica,Meeke etc).This is not competition.

[AL14]

SlowSon is the new N.O.T. :D

[tommeke_B]

SlowSon is the new N.O.T. :D

I'd say maybe half of N.O.T's IQ if I'm very optimistic, so no...