Rallye International du Valais 2015

[arnmar4]

does anyone have info why the rally is not in the ERC .

i dont undestand !!!

[stefanvv]

Neither do I

[AndyRAC]

Utter madness....there are times when I wonder if Eurosport know what they're doing.

[dodge33cymru]

Baffled. Hope there's a small chance of them changing their mind, but it's slim at best.

Would be good if one side or the other would actually clarify the reason; the silence is deafening.

[Jarek Z]

Sorry arnmar4, but many idiotic decisions have been made in rallying in the last years. Keeping Circuit of Ireland and dropping Rallye du Valais is one of them.

[Jarek Z]

Lukyanuk confirms his appearance in Switzerland:
http://www.fiaerc.com/lukyanuk-confirms-erc-outings-in-greece-and-switzerland/

[dodge33cymru]

Good news. Better news for me as I'm all sorted for visiting for all 3 days. Any idea what a prospective R5/S2000/RGT list could look like?

Just need to find somewhere to watch the World Cup Final on Saturday afternoon now...

[garais22]

Sports Racing Technologies driver Nikolay Gryazin will make a debut with Škoda Fabia R5 in this rally!
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/erc/5092-si-briza-latvijas-rallija-r2-klases-lideris-sveices-erc-posma-debites-ar-skoda-fabia-r5-/

[Jarek Z]

Sports Racing Technologies driver Nikolay Gryazin will make a debut with Škoda Fabia R5 in this rally!
http://www.go4speed.lv/lv/news/erc/5092-si-briza-latvijas-rallija-r2-klases-lideris-sveices-erc-posma-debites-ar-skoda-fabia-r5-/

Great news! But how many Gryazins are there actually? It's already Gryazin The Third, isn't it? :)

[Martins Tolks]

Great news! But how many Gryazins are there actually? It's already Gryazin The Third, isn't it? :)

If we are talking about rally, there are 3 of them.
Stanislav Gryazin, father of 2 sons and rally driver in the past (contended in ERC in early 200x)
Vasily Gryazin, older son, now recovering from terrible traffic accident
Nikolay Gryazin, youngest son, now the only active driver from the family

[RS]

I suppose Breen and Kajto won't go to Valais now. Will Lukyanuk still go?

[dodge33cymru]

Yeah, I guessed the same for Breen and Kajto. Lukyanuk is hardly in it for the championship so I expect he will still be there. Hope a few others see it as an opportunity.

[WUff1]

I thought Kajto originally didn´t plan to enter Valais?

[dodge33cymru]

No, but was rumoured he might if the championship was still open. Now he will probably save those pennies for next year.

[dimviii]

Kajto will not go to Valais,according to his team manager.

[WUff1]

A reasonable decision I mean.

[pucky54]

No, but was rumoured he might if the championship was still open. Now he will probably save those pennies for next year.

Asphalt master still up for grabs

[Sulland]

does anyone have info why the rally is not in the ERC .

i dont undestand !!!

http://www.fiaerc.com/event/rallye-international-du-valais/
Thought it was in ERC, does it not say that here?

[dodge33cymru]

http://www.fiaerc.com/event/rallye-international-du-valais/
Thought it was in ERC, does it not say that here?
The original post was from last year when it was dropped from ERC. Once Corsica went from ERC to WRC Valais came back into ERC.

Win-win in my estimation.

[PLuto]

Kajto, Consani and Tarabus will not start in Valais, Breen will start

[atsiotras79]

Magalhaes also will not start!

[dodge33cymru]

Damn, lots of non-starters. Anyone got any good news on folks that will be there in the top class? Breen's a positive at least.

[EightGear]

What about Bergkvist?

[Mirek]

He shall drive R5, some said that it would be Škoda but I don't know.

[Jeppe]

I have little doubt that this will be a pancake. Such a shame - nice stages though..

[Rasantes]

Emil Bergkvist in 208 T16 R5.

https://www.facebook.com/514805148554356/photos/a.635795853121951.1073741825.514805148554356/1055845684450297/?type=3&theater

[dodge33cymru]

That's great news, two Sainteloc cars is always good. Wonder if it's a precursor to something more in future.

[PLuto]

That's great news, two Sainteloc cars is always good. Wonder if it's a precursor to something more in future.

I dont think so. This is primary reward for winning JERC title.

[Rallyper]

Peugeot same spec as Breen. (If there´s differenties in P 208´s?)
Also some tests included before Valais.

[itix]

Emil Bergkvist in 208 T16 R5.

https://www.facebook.com/514805148554356/photos/a.635795853121951.1073741825.514805148554356/1055845684450297/?type=3&theater

Awesome :)

Now come back to WRC and hire him and some other cool dude/lass plz! (although I am sure pluto is right.. but hey, one can still dream, right?)

[PLuto]

Awesome :)

Now come back to WRC and hire him and some other cool dude/lass plz! (although I am sure pluto is right.. but hey, one can still dream, right?)

Too early for going to WRC...

[b3637853]

Too early for going to WRC...

Agree, first he needs to prove that he can be fast in 4WD and it's fwd driving skills and speed are not always transferable to 4WD cars (Lefebvre case).

[PLuto]

Agree, first he needs to prove that he can be fast in 4WD and it's fwd driving skills and speed are not always transferable to 4WD cars (Lefebvre case).

Primary, he needs to learn how to fight for seconds for win, to gain experience. WRC is more like marathon where you have no chance in first seasons...

[mousti]

Emil Bergkvist with 208 R5 from Sainteloc.

http://www.fiaerc.com/erc-junior-champion-bergkvist-to-pilot-prize-drive-r5-in-valais/

[Rallyper]

Primary, he needs to learn how to fight for seconds for win, to gain experience. WRC is more like marathon where you have no chance in first seasons...

I would say it´s too early to say either one way or another, if you understand what I mean. Let´s find out. The way he has performed nothing will surprise me in the future.

[dodge33cymru]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=19498&t=Rallye-International-du-Valais-2015

Hoping there are a few more to come...

[PLuto]

Dont be afraid, there will be around 80 cars and around 20 R5/S2000/RRC cars. In this "funny list" is missing lot of crews, for example Bouffier...

[dodge33cymru]

Looking forward to it, cheers for keeping my mind at ease!

[Tom206wrc]

Great to see Bouffier in a 208 T16 :bounce:

[leo2400]

Once Corsica went from ERC to WRC Valais came back into ERC. Win win in my estimation.

[mousti]

Younger brother of Vasily Gryazin got just 18 and will make his R5 debut in Valais with Fabia R5 :D

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, same car that Kisiels uses this weekend, plate GH-888

[RICARDO75]

Bruno Magalhães will be in Valais.

[dodge33cymru]

More like it: http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=19498&t=Rallye-International-du-Valais-2015

[Rallyper]

Younger brother of Vasily Gryazin got just 18 and will make his R5 debut in Valais with Fabia R5 :D

That´s fast. Has he competed in R2 before? Or does he have competens from other motorsports?
Good for him, maybe bad for his development if things doesn´t settle.

[PLuto]

That´s fast. Has he competed in R2 before? Or does he have competens from other motorsports?
Good for him, maybe bad for his development if things doesn´t settle.

Nikolay was competing in R2 before. But as he didnt have 18, he was not able to fight on international level so much.

[Rallyper]

Now I see - he did Rally Latvia, being third in LRC3 after Kalle Rovanperä and Sirmacis.

[dodge33cymru]

Edit: never mind

[dimviii]

entry list
http://www.riv.ch/images/2015/engages_erc.pdf

[RS]

Not too bad considering the championship is decided.

[PLuto]

Yes, entry list is not bad. And also pickems will not be easy.

[Andre Oliveira]

Any chance of snow?

[PLuto]

It is in mountains. So chance for snow is always.

[Jeppe]

Not bad entry at all. I feared much worse since Championship is decided. Nice to see Bergkvist and Gryazin in R5 cars.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Itinerary:

http://www.fiaerc.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Itinerary.pdf

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any chance of snow?

Weather forecast is fine and dry this week, the snowline is still very high. But there is a possibility of some rain/snow for the Saturday of the rally ...

[Zeakiwi]

Jakes with DS3 R5 http://au.eurosport.com/erc/jakes-makes-erc-comeback-in-a-citroen-ds3-r5_sto4961741/story.shtml

How many DS3 R5 are there?

[PLuto]

Jakes with DS3 R5 http://au.eurosport.com/erc/jakes-makes-erc-comeback-in-a-citroen-ds3-r5_sto4961741/story.shtml

How many DS3 R5 are there?

There will be three DS3 R5 on Valais.

[Coach 2]

I don't think he ment Valais, but how many "are there"? How many exsist?

[pantealex]

DS 3 R5 in Finland 3 pieces built. 1 for Vainionpää and 2 units for Kruuda

[itix]

I think 2 or 3 in sweden... something like that.
I can only find one swedish number plate on ever useful ewrc-results, so unsure now. Is that list complete? Both estonia and finland use the same number plate system as sweden so there should be more number plates in that list with the swedish format!
http://ewrc-results.com/cars.php?cid=56&title=Citroen-DS3-R5

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12193588_1061064927261706_7231016482085721793_n.jp g?oh=72631a4905e41375bec8678604f310d5&oe=56CE639E

[mousti]

Jakes with DS3 R5 http://au.eurosport.com/erc/jakes-makes-erc-comeback-in-a-citroen-ds3-r5_sto4961741/story.shtml

How many DS3 R5 are there?

3 DS3 R5 in Belgium 1 owned by GoDrive and 2 by J-Motorsport

[PLuto]

Dont forget to make pickems, deadline is very soon !

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/12063595_698110096999341_3162843529912340784_n.jpg ?oh=4535e7ae4d40e54c2c3b50830f0ed530&oe=56C74AC5
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12191907_698110106999340_8327731516694224663_n.jpg ?oh=43b60c8c11feff354db5fae0fbdde8f2&oe=56C445A5

[dodge33cymru]

Nice! Looking forward to this; will be arriving first thing Thursday morning and staying for the runs on Saturday. I'm guessing multiple stages on the Thursday night are near impossible?

[Jarek Z]

Fantastic livery of this Della Casa's car, it has to be said!

[Jarek Z]

Dont forget to make pickems, deadline is very soon !

What Pickems? How many Peugeots will survive the rally? ;)

There will be 5 Pugs 208 T16 on the start line:
- Craig Breen (Sainteloc)
- Bryan Bouffier (ROMO Motorsport)
- Bruno Magalhães (Delta Rally)
- Jonathan Hirschi (HTZ Rally Team)
- Emil Bergkvist (Sainteloc).

How many of them will reach the finish line? :)

[Jarek Z]

But on a more serious note, this rally may be good for Pugs. It reminds some rallies in the Italian championship, where Andreucci's Peugeot is very quick and reliable, so who knows?

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/12193700_698037330339951_806255845104122923_n.jpg? oh=7dff0cd75002a538d0a0ed6ae857644b&oe=56C20597
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12108125_697465987063752_3484509882340358775_n.jpg ?oh=f92630f9b89f44940cdc050173cf6e46&oe=56C13DD2
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12187651_698269173650100_7707725697821309226_n.jpg ?oh=1e5dba09da4da60c3366b510a634bbea&oe=56C948B9
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12122436_698269180316766_2228331832008280601_n.jpg ?oh=ba2a20aa76472872c041b02e0abcb160&oe=5686C8D0

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12065812_698269206983430_9032709574945633144_n.jpg ?oh=3db361c397bc5d2c5410b73cae272361&oe=56B8B441
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12065687_698269223650095_6533872551619638738_n.jpg ?oh=dc85786f315c63fce9f3efb871dd787b&oe=56C728C5
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xlf1/v/t1.0-9/12049251_698269843650033_3660456166396598330_n.jpg ?oh=6203c6838432628d7748af32c7816fed&oe=56D08367

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Weather forecast now showing dry and sunny for the whole rally...

[Jarek Z]

Weather forecast now showing dry and sunny for the whole rally...

Yes, the roads of stage 1 await the daredevils. Glory to the brave! ;)

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/s750x750/sh0.08/e35/12142545_177622302578262_1714844523_n.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Nikolay Gryazin was testing his car in Poland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54f5GwBCAE4

https://fbcdn-photos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/10733955_1687818761431853_5623238114940349140_n.jp g?oh=a271117ed44f79f35b555a38ec2de54e&oe=56D28B2E&__gda__=1455174655_69461dffa1ce13da28e508555628b2b 2

[skarderud]

3 DS3 R5 in Belgium 1 owned by GoDrive and 2 by J-Motorsport
4 in Norway, 2 by Anders grøndal, 1 by Arnt Gustav Olsen, and 1 by inovation motorsport ( danneborg)

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12047077_698363676973983_4183478595372458018_n.jpg ?oh=a1c4847c3167a1a1e94db1f742a9f067&oe=56B5460F
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12074663_1657279154510418_7762026262882206189_n.jp g?oh=482f4c98fa312b235daf8b529f6947b9&oe=56C76852
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12046789_1657278877843779_8337516388686634742_n.jp g?oh=881e1a84e83b8a3e29c221dba3334011&oe=56C90480
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12193490_1657259657845701_1036684434258610521_n.jp g?oh=8abfcaba1c60bdcd7b0f6024890456d5&oe=56B57E53
https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12042767_1657259701179030_4637025024030539397_n.jp g?oh=581df743e5fa19220220c5b851d0f6c0&oe=56C382DE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSaGs0ZWcAAihf1.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSaGF1KWwAAQT8W.jpg:large

[Rally Power]

Nice entry list. RIV is a great season closure for ERC. Hoping for a nice fight and a Bouffier win!

Btw, Romo Motorsport (romo-motorsport.com) site has a great layout!

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, fantastic website :)

And a new 208 T16 :)

[dodge33cymru]

Incredibly slippy Shakedown, first two cars have both gone off, second one (#19 Clio) has landed on a marshal's car after slipping off the edge of the uphill junction. No-one hurt (really slow incident), but someone's going to have an interesting insurance claim.

[dodge33cymru]

Pic https://twitter.com/rodger_davies/status/659618419344568320?s=09

[JTGANG]

https://twitter.com/FIAERC/status/659656533710675969 Breen fastest at the shakedown

[Kalm]

Good times from Gryazin and Bergkvist... gonna be interesting to see how they get on :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen must win here (chocolate 208 permitting) ...

[Mirek]

Big differences there. Surprised by time of Jakeš. I think that it's his very first rally abroad. I hope he keeps good pace.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Road order

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSerXehXIAAC6eG.jpg

[Mirek]

Bouffier with damaged rear suspension from hitting a rock...

[dodge33cymru]

Already? I opted for stage 2 thinking I'll see most of the Peugeots, maybe not.....

[Mirek]

Hirschi second, Jakeš third? Quite... surprising let's say.

EDIT: From the times of late runners it's clear the drying of the roads makes quite a difference there.

[makinen_fan]

And Delecour 3rd... for sure I did not expect that! Shame about Bouffier, the damage looks bad

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSfWHAqXAAAC5Sf.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Wow! Delecour and his Porsche third on SS1! Bergkvist on the same level as Tlustak?

[Tom206wrc]

Time from Delecour is impressive :eek:

[JTGANG]

Bouffier retired unfortunately.....

[Jarek Z]

Shame about Bouffier, the damage looks bad

Oh no! What have you done Bryan? :(

[Mirek]

Wow! Delecour and his Porsche third on SS1! Bergkvist on the same level as Tlustak?

There was an overnight rain and as the roads are drying out the later crews are able to go faster. There is no magic in that really...

[Tom206wrc]

No time coming anymore now on SS1...problem for Federico della Casa :confused:


Edit: only problem with times, everything OK ;)

[Jarek Z]

There was an overnight rain and as the roads are drying out the later crews are able to go faster. There is no magic in that really...

I don't mind some magic on the stages, do you? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture for Gryazin Junior on SS2 :mark:

[tommeke_B]

There was an overnight rain and as the roads are drying out the later crews are able to go faster. There is no magic in that really...

Isn't it a bit late for the roads to (quickly) dry out from an overnight rain?

[dodge33cymru]

Isn't it a bit late for the roads to (quickly) dry out from an overnight rain?
The cars are drying it as they pass, there's a film under the trees but there's a dry line appearing. Fog is massively variable too, sometimes I can see the mountains opposite, sometimes I can't see my hand. I'm at the top of Crans-Montana.

[dimviii]

shakedown very slippy
https://youtu.be/XwtoC3MmaIs

[dimviii]

Bergvist and Breen testing
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3bgieq_rallye-du-valais-2015-test-208-t16_auto

[dimviii]

Isn't it a bit late for the roads to (quickly) dry out from an overnight rain?


Bergvist
"It is a lot of mist for sure. I think it was maybe 2 or 3 kilometres you could not see nothing. The car is just amazing. I need to learn how much I can trust the car. It feels amazing

Jakes
"Everything okay, but a few places fog. It was a little bit crazy but no problem."

Breen
"I am on hard tyres, fine to start but once you get into the fog and the mist, I had absolutely no grip at all, the tyres are like new." /

[Tom206wrc]

OK so there's fog and mist on SS2 ;)
I wonder what Delecour will do here :confused:

[dimviii]

Gryazin
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSfheHEWUAAFAOg.jpg

[Jarek Z]

I wonder what Delecour will do here :confused:

Do you expect some magic? ;)

[PLuto]

Big differences there. Surprised by time of Jakeš. I think that it's his very first rally abroad. I hope he keeps good pace.

On second free practice he didnt finished due to problems with shifting. He arrived with quickly repaired car to start of qualify on very last moment.

[PLuto]

And Delecour 3rd... for sure I did not expect that!

swiss stages are good for Porsche, especially first one

[dodge33cymru]

Huge gap after 40 cars or so on Ss2, anyone know why?

[Tom206wrc]

Huge gap after 40 cars or so on Ss2, anyone know why?


Maybe fog and mist ;)

[Jarek Z]

Breen wins all 3 stages of the first day. Well done Craig! :)

[Mirek]

swiss stages are good for Porsche, especially first one

The partially gravel ones which will come for sure :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Delecour having fun ! :D

After SS3: "Hairpin, hairpin, hairpin... It's very slippery, muddy! Not at all for the Porsche. But I pushed hard!"

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The partially gravel ones which will come for sure :)

Some gravel already...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSfpd6jXAAMR3nZ.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Better pics of that SD crash ! :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSenHLaXIAAvrI3.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSenHcgWoAADsKy.jpg

[Mirek]

W190 is the last Mercedes which can survive everything - even a Clio on top of it :D

[dodge33cymru]

Edit; nvm

[makinen_fan]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12065968_1001267989937429_3912787560498698002_n.pn g?oh=324d10216a43dd50a4635d9b7d60f41c&oe=56B58E36

[Tom206wrc]

Great battle in Junior Trophy(2"2 between Daldini, Althaus and Toedtli) :D

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12065968_1001267989937429_3912787560498698002_n.pn g?oh=324d10216a43dd50a4635d9b7d60f41c&oe=56B58E36

Better luck than Bruno Magalhães at 2014 edition :)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/rallye_international_du_valais_2014/sno_031.jpg

[Sulland]

Bergkvist took the speed, and 4wd og the T16 pretty quickly. Lets hope he keeps it on the road till the end!

[Luis Pacheco]

Some gravel already...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSfpd6jXAAMR3nZ.jpg:large

I remember seeing footages of this gravel section in the 90´s.

[Mirek]

Maybe it was already posted...

Video from QS including onboard from that Clio accident with Marshal's Mercedes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTit1pudOAE

Helicam SS2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YUiGugOpgg

[AL14]

Is this the first time ever for Berkvist in a 4WD?

[Jeppe]

Is this the first time ever for Berkvist in a 4WD?

Yes it is. He said that the PET before Valais was his first ever 4wd experience..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame... Breen beats Delecour into 2nd on SS4 !

[Jarek Z]

Shame... Since Bouffier retired there are no competitors who are able to keep Breen's pace in this rally. Local Swiss drivers seem to be very slow...

[skarderud]

Nice debut of bergkvist!
Hopefully Opel get serious about an R5 quite fast!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gryazin's Skoda looking better than the factory cars in white wheels tarmac-spec. :cool:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSe_Z9JU8AA5qP_.jpg:large

[Mirek]

Zero car, Magalhaes and Hirschi hit the same bridge. Jakeš stopped too...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen safely thru SS6 & quickest.. warned about the danger by the organisers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Too much sideways !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSj3zIvXAAAO_wH.jpg:large

[dodge33cymru]

Magalhaes and Hirschi have both started SS7, no sign of the 0 car though!

[dodge33cymru]

Magalhaes very slow though, let Bergqvist past on stage

[dodge33cymru]

Jakes has gone though, no sign of him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Delecour after SS7: "Bloody stage! It's mud, mud, mud. When you have a 2WD, you just have to wait and to lose time !"

[PLuto]

Nice debut of bergkvist!
Hopefully Opel get serious about an R5 quite fast!

They are working on the car...

[PLuto]

Zero car, Magalhaes and Hirschi hit the same bridge. Jakeš stopped too...

Jakes also broke the wheel on same place. It is known place, every year it is very slippery, especially in the mornings...

[Sulland]

Lucky man, just avoided the important stuff!


Too much sideways !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSj3zIvXAAAO_wH.jpg:large

[dodge33cymru]

The dent in the back of Jakes' car is really tiny, looks like little more than scratches - either the bodywork is strong or the suspension is weak.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice view, nice weather...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSkW4KUWsAE-AMb.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Now reported Delecour's right rear susp WAS damaged and team cant repair at service... hope to fix tonight. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Delecour after SS8: "The rear arm suspension is broken. We have to be careful. But for the moment, it's ok... :)

[Tom206wrc]

I'm really impressed by Delecour who resists for the 4th place overall :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Nice debut of bergkvist!
Hopefully Opel get serious about an R5 quite fast!


So Bergkvist is doing the same as Kopecky years ago when he competed in a 207 S2000 while the Skoda S2000 was being prepared in order to get experience and datas ??? ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So Bergkvist is doing the same as Kopecky years ago when he competed in a 207 S2000 while the Skoda S2000 was being prepared in order to get experience and datas ??? ;)

Bergkvist 208T16 drive at Valais is just as a prize for winning the ERC Junior Ch'ship. No news on any further R5 drives...

Excellent performance from him here though.

[dimviii]

watch Lukyanuks jump
https://youtu.be/qU9MXySUMXo?t=121


http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2015/post-144-0-29364200-1446228561.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/q86/p180x540/11207275_920046534698183_9216679965359782624_n.jpg ?oh=2f18a978bb630a6af00b85087853032d&oe=56C2EAD5
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/v/t1.0-9/q85/s720x720/12109228_920046531364850_9115695171201639339_n.jpg ?oh=269be6a5898a72725104aa415e9c3de9&oe=56B5E759&__gda__=1455410532_01222dde723930fe660e916089366e5 b
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-0/q84/p180x540/12188984_920046528031517_864180584172321898_n.jpg? oh=a210dc97d31b1759eb07bc1ea2de74f7&oe=56B089A7

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12065554_848937178560508_7376639829135775385_n.jpg ?oh=116c3ed13c6c52e13fc52c04af9cc173&oe=56D2DEDE
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11221519_767175300075728_842548308750377716_n.jpg? oh=b5e9577d90f5586549ef22d02a0c4e52&oe=56CF304F
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11056568_767175396742385_4329133630141229801_n.jpg ?oh=52204975be7b50027fd055b7fd1d124b&oe=56D37BB2&__gda__=1455796952_94b23e3436a97a3cefc14e8435a51e2 e
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/v/t1.0-9/11220475_767175606742364_7123821982610846873_n.jpg ?oh=d08b20b18006a5dc3dffd3cbc107705f&oe=56B1118D
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12190849_767175500075708_7178832046789101973_n.jpg ?oh=7cc3f458190ed317cb9e45cf22cacc88&oe=56CF43DB

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.766733430119915.1073741955.236514103141853&type=3

[dimviii]

https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfl1/v/t1.0-9/12188878_883329311716860_5628936799432353454_n.jpg ?oh=b22136f33167ae1dd4fcef1d55d513c0&oe=56B1E0EF
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11222516_883329168383541_4999071442819441272_n.jpg ?oh=ebcac7ab018de5a60ddcb57179edfb30&oe=56C819C7
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/11220850_883329548383503_4734101723931489285_n.jpg ?oh=5420d5bd5c9eca7cee65255077759fdf&oe=56C0A33C
https://scontent-fra3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12196176_883329858383472_2057105385136339442_n.jpg ?oh=240226571fb6a32650293aad6202b758&oe=56B172F4

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.883328841716907.1073741961.485469548169507&type=3

[itix]

I am really impressed with Bergkvists speed. That guy has a future if he doesn't do something stupid!

[PLuto]

The dent in the back of Jakes' car is really tiny, looks like little more than scratches - either the bodywork is strong or the suspension is weak.

It was quite big impact...

[PLuto]

I'm really impressed by Delecour who resists for the 4th place overall :eek:

Thursday and Friday stages were ideal for Porsche. We will see on Saturday. First stage is like hillclimb, but I think it will be quite slippery, but other two stages are more narrow with gravel parts...

[PLuto]

The partially gravel ones which will come for sure :)

Thursday and Friday was almost without gravel. It was good condition and type of stages for Porsche. We will see in last leg...

[Jarek Z]

I am really impressed with Bergkvists speed.

That's what it looks like!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfPA1ix2HVY

[itix]

That's what it looks like!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfPA1ix2HVY

Notice how the visor on his helmet falls down when he lands after the famous jump! :O

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19498_fb_img_1446233636608.jpg

[Ounin]

Great stuff what Lucky is doing as a gravel specialist, hope he stays on the road today and will finish on the podium. Hope many rich entrepreneurs who would like to spend some money for 2016 and have their sticker on that years champion Lukyanuk-car are following this rally as well.

[dimviii]

now Luky +4,3 from Burri

[WUff1]

Luky, Bergvkist and also young Gryazin are doing an impressive rally!

EDIT: And I hope Breen wins - it would be a final compensation for his unlucky season.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Delecour struggling with the gravel now and losing big time.. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unlucky for some SS13... Tlustak, Hirschi and Jeets all off.

Delecour also with a problem.. "It was tricky at the end, I touch again at the back of the car." May have flattened one of the exhaust pipes.

[sindroms]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/quickp/19498_fb_img_1446233636608.jpg

Quote from Russian rally forum:
Q: Leha (Lukyanuk's co-driver), why did you jumped like that? That place is well known."
A: We even braked a little bit ;)

[itix]

[SS14] CASERNE 2 (6.18 KMS)
#16 - VOJTECH STAJF
SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI
"I am quite mad about the starter of this stage, he started me just before Craig Breen, I had to find a place to let him past." - Broken a bit of the bumper trying to get out of Breen's way"


... I thought the cars had specific start times and absolutely had to hold to these times.

How can someone else decide when to start someone?

Am I really such a novice in rally organisation?

[dimviii]

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12063785_981412141920219_4524053243206077122_n.jpg ?oh=a7c80272cfba1c14a2b79322a77b780c&oe=56BA8230

[itix]

Rally crash club are having their annual meeting today it seems!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The Stajf-Breen problem was due to there being some laps involved on the stage I think..

[stefanvv]

...A: We even braked a little bit ;)

And it was even visible on TV they had:)

[Rallyper]

Bergkvist has done a stunning debut in ERC this weekend finishing fourth in Rallye du Valais in 4WD class.

[WUff1]

Congrats to a final win for Breen with Peugeot!

His words after last stage give a hint of an end of his ERC campaign, at least with Peugeot Rally Academy:

"It's a huge win for me. The team really took a big risk to take this chance on me. I have had a wonderful couple of years. The year has been good speed wise, especially on the specialized rallies. Our speed has never been in question, but our season should have been better."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good win for Breen but typically he has a clean run and a reliable car when it's too late.

Hope he has a better season in 2016 but I think his chance of a title is remote. ERC 2015 was his best chance of winning a major championship but he made too many errors.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2015/post-1430-0-29420000-1446305264.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSqHgSQWwAEmzOZ.jpg:large

[Rallyper]

Rumours earlier said that the team of Emil Bergkvist will release news what will happen in 2016 this weekend after finish of RIV.

[RS]

Rumours earlier said that the team of Emil Bergkvist will release news what will happen in 2016 this weekend after finish of RIV.

Testing Opel R5 plus a private ERC programme with a 208, Fiesta or PSA R5 sounds like a good idea.

[Ucci]

I'm very very happy for Breen, he deserves this victory. As already mentioned, this season was his last chance to be an ERC champion, next year will will see a Škoda dominance.
A positive show by Bergkvist, Lukyanuk is improving his tarmac skills.
What happend to Delecour and Štajf?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame for Delecour not finishing... Retired on road section with high engine temps: suspected water leak. :(

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSpwqmkW4AAW1Bv.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSpxBEkXAAACdor.jpg:large

[dodge33cymru]

On the official ERC app it shows the final results as Breen 2nd with a 2 minute penalty and Lukyanuk the winner. I assume that's a mistake?


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/31/7bab71778a4593c15ccee84dbef6e91a.jpg


Edit: same here: http://www.fiaerc.com/live-timing/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Superb debut by Bergkvist in an R5 car here, very impressed.

Jumped nearly as high as Luky, too ! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/berg_zpsvywsy5tc.jpg~original

[Fast Eddie WRC]

OMG ! You are right !

Peter Baert ‏@peterbaert
#FIAERC It took the stewards 4 hours to give @Craig_Breen a 2 minute penalty for a tyre infringement. Drops to 2nd in Valais, Lukyanuk wins. :(

[dimviii]

Superb debut by Bergkvist in an R5 car here, very impressed.

Jumped nearly as high as Luky, too ! :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/berg_zpsvywsy5tc.jpg~original

high as Luky?

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_10_2015/post-144-0-29364200-1446228561.jpg

[dimviii]

OMG ! You are right !

Peter Baert ‏@peterbaert
#FIAERC It took the stewards 4 hours to give @Craig_Breen a 2 minute penalty for a tyre infringement. Drops to 2nd in Valais, Lukyanuk wins. :(

what kind of infringement?

[Jarek Z]

What happend to Delecour and Štajf?

Both retired at the end of the rally after technical problems with their cars.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

what kind of infringement?

#FIAERC It took the stewards 4 hours to give @Craig_Breen a 2 minute penalty for a tyre infringement.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Autosport.pt reports that he used 20 tyres instead of the mandatory 18 previously marked by stewards. Sos, when it's not Breen doing the damage, it's the team... Long gone the times of Kronos Peugeot being the rulers in semi-oficial french cars...

[dimviii]

#FIAERC It took the stewards 4 hours to give @Craig_Breen a 2 minute penalty for a tyre infringement.

yes but what kind of tyre infringment? did he used more tyres? not approoved tyres?

[dodge33cymru]

Always hate to see things decided in a steward's office afterwards like this.

[Jarek Z]

Did Peugeot/Sainteloc screw things up AGAIN?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Strange no confirmation on the ERC website front page or their Twitter feed ...

[dimviii]

sadly is official....


Last minute: Breen demoted from first place to second

Craig Breen (Peugeot 208 T16 R5) has been demoted from first place to second at the 56th Rallye International du Valais. Following a report from the technical delegate stating that Breen used 20 marked tyres during the rally, the Irishman incurred a 2min penalty. As a consequence, Alexey Lukyanuk (Ford Fiesta R5) is the winner of the last round of the 2015 FIA European Rally Championship.


http://www.riv.ch/en/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sums up his season really...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

ERC finally confirmed the new result an hour later on their website & Twitter.

[rage82]

So Lukyanuk with two wins in ERC this year. Not so bad considering that he has no plans to participate at the start of the year. Hope his results in ERC and in WRGB in 2 weeks to convince some sponsors in his abilities and he can arrange a proper program in 2016.

[AL14]

Who's the fault of choosing 20 tyres? His or team's?

[dimviii]

from Breens instagram

cbreen42Don't know what to say... We won the rally but unfortunatly a small mistake by the team today gave us a 2 minute penalty after the rally and we lost our victory.. Just can't believe how bad our luck has been, this has to change soon!

[AL14]

Unbelievable.

[mousti]

Lol PSA screws up again. Unbelievable, can't believe Breen will stay there, his WRC2 program was probably completely funded by him (and sponsors offourse)..

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

[WUff1]

Sorry for Breen ... time for Sainteloc to change something, if they will continue with Peugeot Rally Academy ...

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/mZasWRd0flA

[TWRC]

Lol PSA screws up again. Unbelievable, can't believe Breen will stay there, his WRC2 program was probably completely funded by him (and sponsors offourse)..

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk
Saintéloc that is. They have nothing to do with Peugeot Sport other than that they're allowed to wear official merchandise and somehow they can still run a program when it's been proven time and time again that they're incompetent at just about everything.

[AndyRAC]

Time for him to cut his losses; if it's not one thing, it's another. Been a poor year for him because of the team/ car.

[mousti]

Why not Citroën Rally Academy with PH Sport, team with loads of experience. I say Citroën because I think PH Sport is a bit obliged to run Citroëns (although they rent out 208's R2's and 207's S2000) or am I wrong?

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/Up9eK4SJ60o

[Jarek Z]

Lol PSA screws up again. Unbelievable, can't believe Breen will stay there, his WRC2 program was probably completely funded by him (and sponsors offourse)..

I'm 99% sure, that already before the rally Breen said it was going to be his last rally with Peugeot Rally Academy.

[Jarek Z]

Here is how Delecour hit a house in a village:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yto6WeVQnCs

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu47OES1Xdk

[Jarek Z]

What Pickems? How many Peugeots will survive the rally? ;)

There will be 5 Pugs 208 T16 on the start line:
- Craig Breen (Sainteloc)
- Bryan Bouffier (ROMO Motorsport)
- Bruno Magalhães (Delta Rally)
- Jonathan Hirschi (HTZ Rally Team)
- Emil Bergkvist (Sainteloc).

How many of them will reach the finish line? :)

Now we can answer this question. Lets sum it up:
- Craig Breen (Sainteloc) - finished second due to a mistake of Sainteloc team
- Bryan Bouffier (ROMO Motorsport) - hit a wall and lost a wheel
- Bruno Magalhães (Delta Rally) - finished 14th after many problems with his Pug (brakes, transmission, etc.)
- Jonathan Hirschi (HTZ Rally Team) - crashed on SS13
- Emil Bergkvist (Sainteloc) - after a problem-free rally he finished in a very good 4th position

Another bad rally for Peugeot. Even without Kajto Ford wins again!

It was overal a very good season for Ford. Do you know it is the first time since 1994 when Ford wins European Rally Championship? Over 20 years after Patrick Snijers and his Bastos Ford Escort RS Cosworth.

[Jarek Z]

Would you like to jump? ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU9MXySUMXo

[Sulland]

Now we can answer this question. Lets sum it up:
- Craig Breen (Sainteloc) - finished second due to a mistake of Sainteloc team ---- Car ok, team counting error
- Bryan Bouffier (ROMO Motorsport) - hit a wall and lost a wheel, --- Driver mistake
- Bruno Magalhães (Delta Rally) - finished 14th after many problems with his Pug (brakes, transmission, etc.) --- car error
- Jonathan Hirschi (HTZ Rally Team) - crashed on SS13, --- driver error
- Emil Bergkvist (Sainteloc) - after a problem-free rally he finished in a very good 4th position, --- good drive in good car!

Another bad rally for Peugeot. Even without Kajto Ford wins again!

It was overal a very good season for Ford. Do you know it is the first time since 1994 when Ford wins European Rally Championship? Over 20 years after Patrick Snijers and his Bastos Ford Escort RS Cosworth.

Comment on each car above.

So 1 of 5 was car error, not so bad in my book!

[TheFlyingTuga]

Car error.... hummm... considering that he hit a bridge prior to the problems... I don't know if it counts as car error!

[Jarek Z]

So 1 of 5 was car error, not so bad in my book!

You may be right, but it depends on the ambitions that Peugeot has. If they have
- former world champion (Breen)
- multiple Polish/French rally champion (Bouffier)
- multiple Portuguese rally champion (Magalhaes)
- current ERC3 champion (Bergkvist)
on the entry list, then they have to be disappointed after being defeated by a relatively unknown driver from Russia in a private Ford :)

[Rally Power]

What a waste! A perfect rally from Breen and the 208, but the team manage to screw it again...

The Peugeot Academy program it's a fine contribution to the sport, but Matton, as the new overall PSA sport's boss, must get a proper partner at ERC.

Last two year results are damaging Peugeot rally reputation. That's a shame, as the car can be really competitive.

[liposh]

Everybody talking about great performance of Berqvist, but I am also impressed by "young" Gryazin. He is 18 years and 3 weeks old. He went through this difficult rally with quite good speed.

[dodge33cymru]

Good point, the future's bright if these kids can find backing. I noticed SRT were branded as Skoda Baltic Motorsport, which I guess bodes well for the future of that team.

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RchUjgbNKMw

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/MkAmem8S2aQ

[itix]

Comment on each car above.

So 1 of 5 was car error, not so bad in my book!
No and that's the thing. Everyone seem to take the Sainteloc pugs as some kind of benchmark. To my knowledge Ucci has had almost no problems with his car at all the two years he's been running it in the Italian championship (and Sardegna).

I don't have a complete picture of other privateers but I kinda wonder if it isn't Sainteloc that are utterly incompetent.

[Mirek]

No, they are not the only ones with a lot of problems. Other suffered too. For example Koči with TRT 208 hasn't finished a single WRC2 event this year I think. Princen in Belgium retired or fought with many problems in nearly every rally as well. If You go through WRC2 results You can very rarely find a 208 which finished some event no matter how many of them started. It's more like Racing Lions are the exception from the rule.

[itix]

No, they are not the only ones with a lot of problems. Other suffered too. For example Koi with TRT 208 hasn't finished a single WRC2 event this year I think. Princen in Belgium retired or fought with many problems in nearly every rally as well. If You go through WRC2 results You can very rarely find a 208 which finished some event no matter how many of them started. It's more like Racing Lions are the exception from the rule.

RallyPower listed a couple that was doing well in the R5 thread and it has finished quite a lot of events...

Koci I have only followed only a little bit so I don't know much about him. The few events I have seen anything of him he crashed I think.

I am not so sure it is as unreliable as it is made out to be. Karl Kruuda seemed to run reliably when he wasn't crashing. If there are reliable privately run cars, that must mean that the ones who aren't are not checked properly or something Like that (or run a tight budget to try to make a profit or something like that). I think it has more to do with how you handle it than anything else.

But then again, I'm a fan boy so I am massively biased. You could be right and I'm lost in a haze of fanboyism.

Funny enough I was never a fan of the S2000 207 (or the 207 at all for that matter) despite it being the best sounding rally car ever, hahahaha.

[kiil]

In Denmark there is a DS3 R5 and and 208 T16. Both have 100% finishing record. Both driven by gentleman drivers, so probably not too hard on them, but anyways, they are not unreliable.

[Jarek Z]

No and that's the thing. Everyone seem to take the Sainteloc pugs as some kind of benchmark. To my knowledge Ucci has had almost no problems with his car at all the two years he's been running it in the Italian championship (and Sardegna).

I don't have a complete picture of other privateers but I kinda wonder if it isn't Sainteloc that are utterly incompetent.

I'm not sure that we can blame Sainteloc for all the problems. Magalhaes has had multiple problems with his Pug throughout the whole season in this year's ERC and his car comes from Delta Rally.

[dodge33cymru]

I thought Magalhaes was most of the problems with that one?

[tommeke_B]

For Andreucci it's possible that they check/renew some parts (like gearbox, diffs, driveshafts) between every event. The average length of the rallies he drove this year (except Sardinia) is 144km SS, almost 50km shorter than the average Belgian event, and less than half of the SS km's run in the shortest WRC event. Great maintenance in combination with shorter events could explain a lot. The difference in teams is huge, the price differences must mean something. There are several examples of same cars in different teams, where in one team a car always retired while some other (usually more expensive team) never has any issues with it. Someone mentioned Kronos here. The reason why Kronos isn't doing anything in rallying anymore because it's impossible to compete with the price of some teams and still deliver decent quality, as Van Dalen said in an interview some time ago.

[Andre Oliveira]

Magalhães used same car all the season. Many problems. Bernardo Sousa had many problems with ACSM team car but Nil Solans with the same car did it better.

[PLuto]

For Andreucci it's possible that they check/renew some parts (like gearbox, diffs, driveshafts) between every event. The average length of the rallies he drove this year (except Sardinia) is 144km SS, almost 50km shorter than the average Belgian event, and less than half of the SS km's run in the shortest WRC event. Great maintenance in combination with shorter events could explain a lot. The difference in teams is huge, the price differences must mean something. There are several examples of same cars in different teams, where in one team a car always retired while some other (usually more expensive team) never has any issues with it. Someone mentioned Kronos here. The reason why Kronos isn't doing anything in rallying anymore because it's impossible to compete with the price of some teams and still deliver decent quality, as Van Dalen said in an interview some time ago.

Also with higher prices, quality of Kronos team was not adequate in last years...

[WUff1]

Also with higher prices, quality of Kronos team was not adequate in last years...

I remember Delcecour stopped working with Kronos in his (short) ERC campaign 2013 after just one rally, saying that he wasn´t content with their work.

[PLuto]

I remember Delcecour stopped working with Kronos in his (short) ERC campaign 2013 after just one rally, saying that he wasn´t content with their work.

And Valousek had similar experience in Czech championship year before...

[dimviii]

any news about Breens tyres?

https://scontent-mrs1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtl1/v/t1.0-9/11202658_1628821990700807_3726232396376039197_n.jp g?oh=9736604f6a3eba602e6faf2b2810a991&oe=56F88B5B

[Rally Power]

any news about Breens tyres?


In that Le Matin's article, Philippe Rauch (RIV director) is quite harsh to Sainteloc: it wasn't a mistake but a deliberate move to ease up Lukyanuk pressure over Breen.

It also mentions that Sainteloc firstly alleged a stamping error from FIA delegates, but after a close check to all used tyres they've admitted the use of that two extra tyres, considering it as a mistake due to rush servicing stress.

[dimviii]

wow...

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2015/post-1417-0-07423700-1446558203.jpg
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_11_2015/post-1417-0-50122100-1446558205.jpg
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/12108742_1715773288652324_9075694121465417727_n.jp g?oh=6ba0726465af06d547eb30b72ad6e7ed&oe=56B6D5B0
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/10665888_1715773295318990_3010898775388663143_n.jp g?oh=fd8c017685042bccdae0e84e3793bc1b&oe=56C9F2A9
https://scontent-ams2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12188894_1716266121936374_918653898416821418_n.jpg ?oh=6cdaa44fa4d0df053ad4f8d8f0f51fc3&oe=56C42C99

more

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1715772961985690.1073741852.157402691616029 6&type=3

[Jarek Z]

Something for the Porsche lovers - Francois Delecour in the Rallye du Valais:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-J8dJwbk9o

[Plhus]

My photogallery:

http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/valais2015.htm