No Duval in this years WRC?

[dot-niek]

According to http://www.pitstoptv.be Francois Duval will not drive the Skoda Fabia WRC this year. The 4 Fabias First wanted to buy has been selled to Dutchman Eric Wevers. Maybe First can rent one from him?

[User]

In wonder why First would need 4 Fabia's in the first place?

Maybe they can buy a Ford Focus 04 WRC.

[Tom206wrc]

Or a whale :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

In wonder why First would need 4 Fabia's in the first place?




I think First only wanted one Fabia(and to rent, not to buy), but Skoda sold all the Fabias(including the one that was awaiting that First sponsor Pyramid pay the Kopecky/Skoda team) to dutch driver Erik Wevers :mark:

According to La Dernière Heure( http://www.dhnet.be )Erik Wevers would have threatened Skoda to put the affair on trial if he didn't receive the four Fabias he ordered :eek:

And now apparently it's First Motorsport who could threatened them... :s

[User]

No, First wanted four, according to the article ;)


First was van plan om de 4 (5?) Fabia’s WRC, die nog bij Skoda Motorsport stonden, met onderdelen aan te kopen.

Or


First intended to buy 4 (5?) Fabia’s WRC, which were still at Skoda Motorsport

[WelshLegend]

What would the dutch fellow need with 4 fabias's? that is just greedy.

[Tom206wrc]

Money is KING !! If he(Erik Wevers) wants the cars and give enough cash, he gets the car, simple !! :rolleyes:

No matter of what he would do with these vehicles... :mark:

[MJW]

Well I for one wont miss Duval.

[Tomi]

Well I for one wont miss Duval.

:)

[smolvar]

Well I for one wont miss Duval.

Agreed. My thoughts when I read the post title.

[Woodeye]

Who's Duval?

:dozey:

[Tom206wrc]

It's always a pitty when a fast driver like Dudu has no possibility to run anymore :(

He should be far more exciting to watch drive than a certain Wilslow anyway :rolleyes:


By the way, on the last report about the affair, it's said that First-Motorsport is absolutely looking for another Fabia to buy, as they still have belgian Skoda importer as partner/sponsor... :s
If they wished to change of car/make they have better possibility to find a decent car...

[LeonBrooke]

I think it's a pity that François won't be competing.

[MartijnS]

Money is KING !! If he(Erik Wevers) wants the cars and give enough cash, he gets the car, simple !! :rolleyes:

No matter of what he would do with these vehicles... :mark:

He allready has 2 cars for sure that will drive, himself and another driver. The other 2 cars will also definitely be driving this year, he didn't buy the 4 just for fun.. :rolleyes:

[Brother John]

Here are the cars.
http://www.rallysport.nl/index.php?module=nieuws&id=1666

Wevers Sport rent out and work also still with Toyota's WRC cars !
Firs can maybe rent cars at Wevers Sport?

[COD]

By the way, on the last report about the affair, it's said that First-Motorsport is absolutely looking for another Fabia to buy, as they still have belgian Skoda importer as partner/sponsor... :s



What kind of sponsor are they, if they don't give money to buy even 1 car???

[Tom206wrc]

Now they have money, but not car, and a latest spec. Fabia is very hard to find :mark:

[Zes]

Now they have money, but not car, and a latest spec. Fabia is very hard to find :mark:

There are couple of WRC Fabia's in http://www.rallycarsforsale.net. I don't know if they are latest spec or not. One is 2004 model, the other is 2003.

[teufel]

Latest spec would be important, i think...

[GigiGalliNo1]

I see Tommi Mak racing have a 2 cars for rent for the Finland 2007. How much would it cost for it do you think?

http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/clas/index.php?ct=frrc&md=details&id=17565

Perfect for Dudu?

[teufel]

http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/clas/index.php?ct=frrc&md=details&id=17565

Perfect for Dudu?

Only if he doesn't wanna finish. Profiko and this car together have finished only 2 races from 8 in Hungary, mainly because of mechanical probs...

[JAM]

Where is the Fabia that Duval used in 2006 from First? The car was rented to First by Skoda Motorsport?

[User]

Duval used two (or more) different Fabia's last year. One was even specially new build for him. Or they rented them, or they sold them back.
Wevers Motorsport said that Duval could rent a Fabia from them. I guess that's the only option (with a Fabia) for Duval.

[RS]

This is what I want to know, I thought First had at least 2 newish Fabias so why do they need 4 more?

Also Wever's cars are not new builds but clearly ex CRT or Red Bull cars.

[A.F.F.]

I think you should check it again. Nothing to do with Tommi Mäkinen except his ad banner on page.

[Zes]

This is what I want to know, I thought First had at least 2 newish Fabias so why do they need 4 more?

Also Wever's cars are not new builds but clearly ex CRT or Red Bull cars.

Well, it's better to have some extra cars just in case Duval will burn some of them :D

[rus]

Well, it's better to have some extra cars just in case Duval will burn some of them :D

At least it would be a 'hot' entry...

[Fischer]

To hell with the Fabia, this is what happens if you drive one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Dt9wtWf3Q


:D

[WRCfan]

Duval is old hat. Burns, or crashes the WRC cars he drives...haha

[LeonBrooke]

Duval performed reasonably well last year.

[Wim_Impreza]

Duval performed reasonably well last year.

Do you really find that?

[jonas_mcrae]

Here are the cars.
http://www.rallysport.nl/index.php?module=nieuws&id=1666

Wevers Sport rent out and work also still with Toyota's WRC cars !
Firs can maybe rent cars at Wevers Sport?

nice line up!

[A.F.F.]

Should he be in the second Citroen, he would beat Sordo's ass in regural basis.

[JAM]

Should he be in the second Citroen, he would beat Sordo's ass in regural basis.


Maybe, but the spanish market is the second most important to Citroen since many years. The first driver is speed, the seconde driver is marketing.

[Corny]

Maybe, but the spanish market is the second most important to Citroen since many years. The first driver is speed, the seconde driver is marketing.

Then why did they choose Duval for 2005:P ?

[Josti]

Maybe, but the spanish market is the second most important to Citroen since many years. The first driver is speed, the seconde driver is marketing.

Spot on. Shame too actually. No offence to Sordo, which I think is a worthy Citroën works driver.

2005 was probably too early for Sordo, plus he was up in front in the S1600 championship with Citroën too. Also, let´s not forget the two guest appearances of Carlos that year.

As for Duval, he´s everything but consistent. That´s his main problem I think (let´s put away the ego this time...).

[LeonBrooke]

Do you really find that?

He had no gigantic crashes as I recall, and scored a few points. Maybe he was dumped by the factories just before he came good.

[JAM]

Then why did they choose Duval for 2005:P ?

Maybe because Sordo was still in development (as he is now).

[GigiGalliNo1]

crash.net report dudu should/will be back later this season...

[Roy]

Maybe because Sordo was still in development (as he is now).

huh? Sordo is the best they can get. Spain market is not important for choose a driver. That would be silly.

Back to Duval: He is driving in rally Wallonia with a porsche. First Motorsport believes he drives a WRC rally. I think faith in God is more logic.

http://www.crash.net/news_view~cid~4~id~146868.htm

[Josti]

huh? Sordo is the best they can get. Spain market is not important for choose a driver. That would be silly.

Not in modern day rally I suppose. Of course, being a good driver counts too.

[MikeD]

There is something I don't understand. Why is it so important for First Motorsport and Duval to run a Skoda Fabia?

First Motorsport used to run with Subaru's so if they have sponsorship money (not related to Skoda) why don't they just run a Subaru?

And honestly, the Fabia isn't exately the fastest WRC car out there.

[Catiocha7]

There is something I don't understand. Why is it so important for First Motorsport and Duval to run a Skoda Fabia?

First Motorsport used to run with Subaru's so if they have sponsorship money (not related to Skoda) why don't they just run a Subaru?

And honestly, the Fabia isn't exately the fastest WRC car out there.

First and Skoda belgium have the partnership , so it's not easy to run another car ..
by the way , do you think that Subaru's performance is much more better than Skoda's performance ?? I don't think you are right in this point ! ;)

[MikeD]

First and Skoda belgium have the partnership , so it's not easy to run another car ..

Ok that I didn't know. But since Wevers Sport have bought all the Fabia's, then First needs to look at a different solution, and then I think an option with Subaru would be the best since First has knowledge of using an Impreza WRC.




by the way , do you think that Subaru's performance is much more better than Skoda's performance ?? I don't think you are right in this point ! ;)

Yes, I rate Subaru way above the Fabia. Actually the only car I rate below the Fabia is the....Octavia ;)

[A.F.F.]

Yes, I rate Subaru way above the Fabia. Actually the only car I rate below the Fabia is the....Octavia ;)

*cough*BS*cough*

[Tom206wrc]

Good news for him !!! Dudu will drive a Porsche 997 GT3 at this week-end's Rallye de Wallonie(Belgium) !!! :p :
http://www.rallyedewallonie.be

Certainly not less fun/exciting than driving a Skoda on the WRC ;)

By the way, he also declared that he decided not to run Rally of Sardigna because he has enough to make a program that often is hampered by problems with budget at the last moment :mark:

That smells the end of WRC campaign program for him(like for Gigi galli)...

[Brother John]

Oeps! I was to late with the Porsche news!
If they find a WRC car, they will drive a part from the wrc progam!


Duval will drive a Porsche GT3 next weekend!
http://www.rallyedewallonie.be/

[Josti]

I guess Duval is not into driving this Porsche at the Deutschland Rally (Following FIA"s approval of GT cars in that rally). Would be awesome, but of course not for his own results.

[pantealex]

Also below fabia is accent, cordoba, corolla and escort wrc`s

[A.F.F.]

With Cordoba I can easily agree with. Accent... I think they're in the same level. But Corolla and Escort ?? :eek:

Based on what pantealex?

[Josti]

With Cordoba I can easily agree with. Accent... I think they're in the same level. But Corolla and Escort ?? :eek:

Based on what pantealex?

Maybe at this point. Not in the days when they were up front.

[RS]

Lol, I think the Fabia is quicker than almost all WRCars from a few years ago such is the pace of development in the WRC. Don't forget it won stages last year against cars such as the latest Focus.

[pantealex]

Yep, I mean at this point, fabia is better than corolla.

[jparker]

Asked about the current situation and if they could clarify what is going on, First Motorsport communication manager, Jean-Pierre Gilmart insisted that things aren't nearly as bleak as some have speculated.

“First Motorsport and Skoda Import (Belgium) are absolutely confident in the way the situation we are living in will be solved,” he explained.

“Together, we are still working on different solutions to build a private team and to participate in the World Rally Championship.

“We sincerely hope that Francois Duval and the whole team will be in Sardinia with the best conditions. We will do our best to, once again, shake up the leaders!”

So, Duval still on for Sardinia or what?

[Brother John]

The porsche for Duval this weekend.


http://www.turbomagazine.be/images/photosite/7087_Duval01.jpg

[Karbonyl]

What do you think about this?

http://www.autosports.be/Rallye/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=443

Will we see Duval in Greece or is it just another medial friction?

[Josti]

I heared he was settling for another Skoda Fabia WRC (not from Wevers Sport) for Sardinia Rally. Pretty unlikely now, but Greece could be something.

[alleskids]

The budget promised by Pyramide technologies in february (?) is still not in place with First Motorsport :confused: It smells like another Kizz Me (ass) :dozey:

[JAM]

Duval will be in Greece, at least tested yesterday. First now have 3 Fabias WRC. Anyone know where these 3 Fabias came from?

[Peugeot206WRC]

Duval will be in Greece, at least tested yesterday. First now have 3 Fabias WRC. Anyone know where these 3 Fabias came from?

Quoted from Karbonyl in the Fabia thread (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116212)

"Last pieces of Škoda Fabia WRC were sold from Škoda Motorsport to abroad. Two cars stay in the Czech republic in Czech Rally Team - Kopecký. Four of cars should have been sold to First Motorsport, where they should have been driven by Francois Duval."

He says four should have been sold to First, but it could be three since he says should and it looks like they come from Skoda Motorsport.
Also noticed only three cars on their website somewhere.

[Jaanus]

Duval will be in Greece, at least tested yesterday. First now have 3 Fabias WRC. Anyone know where these 3 Fabias came from?

On the press photos only 2 cars were shown and one is former First Motorsport car and other is former Red Bull car bought from Italian driver Felice Re:

S 37 88E - ex Duval
5S8 3686 - ex Red Bull Rovanperä

[JAM]

On the press photos only 2 cars were shown and one is former First Motorsport car and other is former Red Bull car bought from Italian driver Felice Re:

S 37 88E - ex Duval
5S8 3686 - ex Red Bull Rovanperä


I read some days ago that were 3 cars but saw pictures of only two cars. Thanks Jaanus :up:

[Peugeot206WRC]

Hehe, and I thought I saw three but it was only two.