FIFA World Cup 2014 !

[pino]

Time to start this, and in a few hours the Italian squad will be announced ! :D

[pino]

Also very soon I will add a poll and post details about Groups, other squads, etc..etc...

[steveaki13]

Oh yes. Cant wait Pino. Hope I am allowed to do this. Just let me know.

Here's the England squad for those that are interested.

Goalkeepers:



Caps
Goals


Joe Hart (Man City)
39
0


Fraser Forster (Celtic)
1
0


Ben Foster (West Brom)
6
0



Defenders:



Caps
Goals


Leighton Baines (Everton)
22
1


Gary Cahill (Chelsea)
22
2


Phil Jagielka (Everton)
24
1


Glen Johnson (Liverpool)
50
1


Phil Jones (Manchester Utd)
9
0


Chris Smalling (Manchester Utd)
10
0


luke Shaw (Southampton)
1
0



Midfielders:



Caps
Goals


Ross Barkley (Everton)
3
0


Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) *Captain
109
21


Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
8
0


Adam Lallana (Southampton)
3
0


Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
103
29


James Milner (Man City)
45
1


Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
14
3


Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
2
0


Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
15
0



Strikers:



Caps
Goals


Rickie Lambert (Southampton)
4
2


Wayne Rooney (Manchester Utd)
89
38


Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)
10
3


Danny Welbeck (Manchester Utd)
21
8



Standby List:
John Ruddy (Norwich City), Jon Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Andy Carroll (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).

[pino]

Steve, off course you're allowed to post whatever you want ;)

[pino]

Spain's squad :

Casillas, Reina, De Gea,

Azpilicueta, Piqué, Ramos, Jordi Alba, Alberto Moreno, Javi Martínez, Albiol, Juanfran, Carvajal,

Busquets, Xabi Alonso, Koke, Iturraspe, Xavi Thiago, Pedro, Navas, Silva, Cesc, Mata, Cazorla, Iniesta,

Diego Costa, Villa, Torres, Negredo y Llorente

[pino]

Italy's :

Keepers: Gianluigi Buffon (Juve), Salvatore Sirigu (Psg), Mattia Perin (Genoa)

Defenders: Giorgio Chiellini (Juve), Andrea Barzagli (Juve), Leonardo Bonucci (Juve), Gabriel Paletta (Parma), Andrea Ranocchia (Inter), Christian Maggio (Napoli), Mattia De Sciglio (Milan), Ignazio Abate (Milan), Matteo Darmian (Torino), Manuel Pasqual (Fiorentina)

Midfielders: Andrea Pirlo (Juve), Daniele De Rossi (Roma), Riccardo Montolivo (Milan), Claudio Marchisio (Juve), Thiago Motta (Psg), Marco Verratti (Psg), Antonio Candreva (Lazio), Romulo (Verona), Alberto Aquilani (Fiorentina), Marco Parolo (Parma)

Strikers: Mario Balotelli (Milan), Antonio Cassano (Parma), Giuseppe Rossi (Fiorentina), Alessio Cerci (Torino), Ciro Immobile (Torino), Mattia Destro (Roma), Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli)

[Firstgear]

Canada's :
Assistant Ref / Linesman: Joe Fletcher

Ok - it's not as impressive as some of the other squads listed, but as pino would say "That's alright - it's only soccer." ;)

[pino]

Argentina's :

Keepers: Romero, Andujar, Orion

Defenders: Garay, Fernandez, Zabaleta, Rojo, Basanta, Campagnaro, Otamendi, Demichelis, Mercado, Lopez.

Midfielders: Gago, Biglia, Mascherano, Banega, Di Maria, Rodriguez, Alvarez, Fernandez, Pérez, Josa, Rinaudo.

Strikers: Aguero, Messi, Higuain, Lavezzi, Palacio, Di Santo.


No Tevez !!! :eek:

[pino]

Coach Sabella, must be crazy. How could he leave at home Tevez, who scored 19 goals for Juve, and bring Di Santo ??? :confused: :crazy:

[Storm]

Di Santo is not going to be in the final 23
- I personally like Tevez but I think there is a feeling that Messi, Tevez and Aguero do not gel..of course he could have been a great sub to come on when others are tiring.. Tevez is practically a machine.

As for Spain, Torres needs to be dropped - he likely won't make the 23 either.. Costa should actually not get selected either..it's ridiculous - why are people who have already played for another country allowed to play for yet another in a few months' time?

[steveaki13]

I saw a headline on the BBC sport pages

"Ronaldo selected in Portugal Squad"

It just made me laugh as a headline. It read as though it was a shock selection. :)

[steveaki13]

. Costa should actually not get selected either..it's ridiculous - why are people who have already played for another country allowed to play for yet another in a few months' time?

I agree so much with this. Its a crazy situation. It will become like club football at this rate and you can trade players.

[steveaki13]

Goalkeepers:

Julio Cesar (Toronto), Jefferson (Botafogo), Victor (Ath.Mineiro)

Defenders:
Dani Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Roma), Thiago Silva (PSG), David Luiz (Chelsea), Marcelo (Real Madrid), Dante (Bayern Munich), Maxwell (PSG), Henrique (Napoli)

Midfielders:
Ramires (Chelsea), Oscar (Chelsea), Paulinho (Tottenham), Hernanes (Inter Milan), Luiz Gustavo (Wolfsburg), Bernard (Shaktar Donetsk), Fernandinho (Man City), Willian (Chelsea)

Strikers:
Neymar (Barcelona), Hulk (Zenit), Fred (Fluminense), Jo (Ath. Mineiro)

[anfield5]

Oh yes. Cant wait Pino. Hope I am allowed to do this. Just let me know.

Here's the England squad for those that are interested.

Goalkeepers:



Caps
Goals


Joe Hart (Man City)
39
0


Fraser Forster (Celtic)
1
0


Ben Foster (West Brom)
6
0



Defenders:



Caps
Goals


Leighton Baines (Everton)
22
1


Gary Cahill (Chelsea)
22
2


Phil Jagielka (Everton)
24
1


Glen Johnson (Liverpool)
50
1


Phil Jones (Manchester Utd)
9
0


Chris Smalling (Manchester Utd)
10
0


luke Shaw (Southampton)
1
0



Midfielders:



Caps
Goals


Ross Barkley (Everton)
3
0


Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) *Captain
109
21


Jordan Henderson (Liverpool)
8
0


Adam Lallana (Southampton)
3
0


Frank Lampard (Chelsea)
103
29


James Milner (Man City)
45
1


Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (Arsenal)
14
3


Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
2
0


Jack Wilshere (Arsenal)
15
0



Strikers:



Caps
Goals


Rickie Lambert (Southampton)
4
2


Wayne Rooney (Manchester Utd)
89
38


Daniel Sturridge (Liverpool)
10
3


Danny Welbeck (Manchester Utd)
21
8



Standby List:
John Ruddy (Norwich City), Jon Flanagan (Liverpool), John Stones (Everton), Michael Carrick (Manchester United), Tom Cleverley (Manchester United), Andy Carroll (West Ham United), Jermain Defoe (Toronto FC).

Hmm a few in who based on performance should not be.
Smalling and Jones are extremely lucky to go, both were average at best this year. Personally I would have taken Stones and Flanagan, both of whom had exceptional seasons this time round and were far more impressive than the Utd pair.

Apart from that I think this is the best squad Hodgeson could have come up with.

So.... how will England do?

I can see them making the quarter finals, then all you need is luck from there, I can also see them not progressing past Italy and Uruguay in their group.

[MrJan]

In anticipation of England's abject failure I will be offering my support to Cameroon and Germany...mainly because I've got them in the company sweepstake.

[Rollo]

Apart from that I think this is the best squad Hodgeson could have come up with.

So.... how will England do?

I can see them making the quarter finals, then all you need is luck from there, I can also see them not progressing past Italy and Uruguay in their group.

Hart, Cahill, Johnson, Smalling, Jagielka, Henderson, Sterling, Gerrard, Milner, Sturridge and Rooney.

That's pretty well much the default XI and to be honest, the only reason I'd see that England have any need to play anyone else is to rest that XI before an important match. Secure escape from the group stage and then revert to an XI which in theory should be able to hold up fairly nicely in a European Champions League match.

...

Aside:
I think that Australia is massively overrated in the press here. Having seen the squad of 30 before they play a friendly against South Africa, I can honestly see Australia getting belted to the weeds. My prediction of losing all matches and conceding 20 goals still stands.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Hart, Cahill, Johnson, Smalling, Jagielka, Henderson, Sterling, Gerrard, Milner, Sturridge and Rooney.

That's pretty well much the default XI and to be honest, the only reason I'd see that England have any need to play anyone else is to rest that XI before an important match. Secure escape from the group stage and then revert to an XI which in theory should be able to hold up fairly nicely in a European Champions League match.


...

Aside:
I think that Australia is massively overrated in the press here. Having seen the squad of 30 before they play a friendly against South Africa, I can honestly see Australia getting belted to the weeds. My prediction of losing all matches and conceding 20 goals still stands.

You've selected 3 CB and no left back.

Hart
Johnson, Cahill, Jagielka, Baines
Gerrard, Wilshere
Stirling, Rooney, Welbeck
Sturridge

That's how I'd play, attack attack attack

[steveaki13]

I'd go with that too Jon.

Maybe switching the Ox if fit or Lallana for Welbeck personally, but its the same basic team.

[pino]

Groups :

Group A
Brazil, Croatia, Mexico, Cameroon

Group B
Spain, Netherlands, Chile, Australia

Group C
Colombia, Greece, Ivory Coast, Japan

Group D
Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy

Group E
Switzerland, Ecuador, France, Honduras

Group F
Argentina, Bosnia-Hercegovina, Iran, Nigeria

Group G
Germany, Portugal, Ghana, United States

Group H
Belgium, Algeria, Russia, South Korea

[pino]

Poll added with 10 options, if you guys want more options, just let me know ;)

[Storm]

Where's Greece? :p:

[D-Type]

I think the predicting the winner is a no-brainer. Historically Brazil have always been contenders - even in a bad year. And they're playing at home which history tells us leads to teams playing above themselves. But who will they beat in the final?

[steveaki13]

I think the predicting the winner is a no-brainer. Historically Brazil have always been contenders - even in a bad year. And they're playing at home which history tells us leads to teams playing above themselves. But who will they beat in the final?

History also tells you Brazil didnt cope very well all round when they hosted it in 1950.

Different times I know, but any wobble and the crowd will get on their backs. They must be up there but I wouldnt be surprised if they choked.

[anfield5]

I voted for England :). I tried really really hard not to, but some how it just happened any way.

Brazil will be hard to beat at home, but how will they handle the extra pressure?

[odykas]

Where's Greece? :p:


Just announced :D

Goalkeepers:
Orestis Karnezis, Panagiotis Glykos, Stefanos Kapino

Defenders:
Kostas Manolas, Jose Holebas, Sokratis Papastathopoulos, Vangelis Moras, Giorgos Tzavellas, Lucas Vyntra, Vasilis Torosidis

Midfielders:
Alexandros Tziolis, Andreas Samaris, Yannis Maniatis, Kostas Katsouranis, Giorgos Karagounis, Panagiotis Tachtsidis, Yannis Fetfatzidis, Lazaros Christodoulopoulos, Panagiotis Kone

Attackers:
Dimitris Salpingidis, Giorgos Samaras, Kostas Mitroglou, Fanis Gekas

[steveaki13]

Right I always do this for some fun and as there is a thread on here I guess I might as well publish it for you all to laugh at.

Group A
Brazil 3-1 Croatia
Mexico 2-1 Cameroon
Brazil 2-2 Mexico
Cameroon 1-1 Croatia
Brazil 3-0 Cameroon
Mexico 1-1 Croatia

1.Brazil 7
2.Mexico 5
3.Croatia 2
4.Cameroon 1

Group B
Spain 1-1 Netherlands
Chile 4-0 Australia
Australia 1-5 Netherlands
Spain 2-1 Chile
Australia 0-2 Spain
Chile 2-2 Netherlands

1. Spain 7
2. Netherlands 5
3. Chile 4
4. Australia 0

Group C
Colombia 1-0 Greece
Ivory Coast 1-1 Japan
Colombia 2-2 Ivory Coast
Japan 1-1 Greece
Japan 1-1 Colombia
Ivory Coast 2-1 Greece

1.Ivory Coast 5
2.Colombia 5
3.Japan 3
4.Greece 1

Group D (being honest not with England tinted glasses)
Costa Rica 1-3 Uruguay
England 1-1 Italy
Uruguay 2-1 England
Italy 2-0 Costa Rica
Italy 1-1 Uruguay
Costa Rica 1-2 England

1. Uruguay 7
2. Italy 5
3. England 4
4. Costa Rica 0

Group E
Switzerland 0-2 Ecuador
France 2-1 Honduras
Switzerland 0-0 France
Honduras 1-1 Ecuador
Honduras 1-1 Switzerland
Ecuador 2-2 France

1.Ecuador 5
2.France 5
3.Honduras 2
4.Switzerland 2

Group F
Argentina 3-1 Bosnia & Herz
Iran 1-2 Nigeria
Argentina 5-0 Iran
Nigeria 2-2 Bosnia & Herz
Nigeria 1-4 Argentina
Bosnia & Herz 3-0 Iran

1.Argentina 9
2.Bosnia & Herz 4
3.Nigeria 4
4.Iran 0

Group G
Germany 2-2 Portugal
Ghana 2-1 USA
Germany 3-2 Ghana
Portugal 1-1 USA
USA 0-2 Germany
Ghana 1-1 Portugal

1.Germany 7
2.Ghana 4
3.Portugal 3
4.USA 1

Group H
Belgium 3-0 Algeria
Russia 2-1 South Korea
Belgium 2-0 Russia
South Korea 2-1 Algeria
South Korea 2-2 Belgium
Russia 3-0 Algeria

1.Belgium 7
2.Russia 6
3.South Korea 4
4. Algeria 0

2nd Round (I used 1-0 in brackets as Penalty win)
Brazil 3-2 Netherlands *AET
Ivory Coast 1-2 Italy *AET
Ecuador 2-1 Bosnia & Herz
Germany 3-1 Russia
Spain 2-2 Mexico *AET (1-0)
Uruguay 3-2 Colombia
Argentina 2-0 France
Belgium 2-1 Ghana

Quarter Finals
Brazil 2-1 Italy
Ecuador 2-3 Germany
Spain 1-2 Uruguay
Argentina 2-1 Belgium

Semi Finals
Brazil 2-2 Germany *AET (0-1) Pressure and German Penaltys
Uruguay 2-3 Argentina *AET

3rd/4th
Brazil 3-1 Uruguay

Final
Argentina 2-1 Germany


Just for fun and will probably be completely wrong. :D

[Mintexmemory]

Option for Belgium please - best chance of all European teams imvho

[gadjo_dilo]

Right I always do this for some fun and as there is a thread on here I guess I might as well publish it for you all to laugh.
..............


Just for fun and will probably be completely wrong. :D

Don't laugh. At my first job where coworkers were normal and funny I started a game where everybody should guess the result of every match. Matching a result meant you'll get some points, wrong result meant you have to pay and the winner of the game should take all the money involved. It was a laugh and I managed to find 42 players. We had 2 winners, one took his award, the other took us out for beers. :p


BTW. Like at every WC I'll support Argentina but I voted for Brazil.

[odykas]

Too many matches so it's quite hard to predict.

I prefer to watch instead :smokin:

[steveaki13]

Too many matches so it's quite hard to predict.

I prefer to watch instead :smokin:

I'll do that too I guess. :p

Only for fun. Already worrying about predicting Portugal as my one shock knock out in the group stages. :eek:

[Rollo]

I voted for England :). I tried really really hard not to, but some how it just happened any way.


:rotflmao:

Are you embarrassed easily? I am. But it's nothing to worry about; it's all part of growing up and being British.

Just like following Tim Henman-man-man-man and Jenson Button, following the England football team is a sure fire way to be pleasantly disappointed.
That's why I'm supporting England all the way to the quarter-finals where they'll be knocked out on penalties by some nation who was once vanquished but has practised at playing football and is now better than England.

Anglorum - ambitiosa nugas!

[anfield5]

:rotflmao:

Are you embarrassed easily? I am. But it's nothing to worry about; it's all part of growing up and being British.

Just like following Tim Henman-man-man-man and Jenson Button, following the England football team is a sure fire way to be pleasantly disappointed.
That's why I'm supporting England all the way to the quarter-finals where they'll be knocked out on penalties by some nation who was once vanquished but has practised at playing football and is now better than England.

Anglorum - ambitiosa nugas!

There was no option to vote for Australia then?

[anfield5]

It's quite odd that no one has ticked the Germany box. Sure they have been under achieving for the past few years, but you can bet they will stand up at the tournament.

[journeyman racer]

Group B
Spain 1-1 Netherlands
Chile 4-0 Australia
Australia 1-5 Netherlands
Spain 2-1 Chile
Australia 0-2 Spain
Chile 2-2 Netherlands

1. Spain 7
2. Netherlands 5
3. Chile 4
4. Australia 0
That's a pretty optimistic performance from Australia that you're expecting.


Option for Belgium please - best chance of all European teams imvho
Yep. Normally, it's the Netherlands I go for in WC. But this time, I'm jumping onto the Benelux rival bandwagon!

Lukaku for golden boot!


Lukakuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!

[journeyman racer]

Australia just got held to a 1-1 draw against South Africa, that didn't play close to it's strongest team!

[steveaki13]

Yes I watched the match

South Africa had about 8 out and struggled to get a team there. To be fair Australia looked better in the first half but couldn't put any chances away

[journeyman racer]

If chance couldn't be put away against a second string SA team. what hope have we got against a full strength Netherlands, Spain and Chile???

There's been a disgustingly complacent attitude here, the last 8 years. After a respectable performance during the 06 WC, it was expected we'd do better since. Being included in Asia was supposed to mean we'd get more, higher quality games, and a fairer path to the WC. Whereas really, it was all about getting an easier run. Instead of producing a better team, it produced a significantly inferior one.

Since then, we'd slowly, slowly declined to the point now we're the worst team participating. The blame has been dumped onto our two coaches since Guus Hiddink, Pim Verbeek and Holger Osieck. However, this is absolute BS. There was a deluded sense of entitlement from the whole of the Aus football/soccer community here since the 06 WC. A complete lack of understanding and respect for how hard it is to succeed at international level. Expectations have been lowered for the WC as far as progressing is concerned, but there is still some there regarding a spirited performance, particularly with one eye on the Asian Cup. But this will be squashed with our coach.

Verbeek and Osieck have been criticised here, particularly Osieck. But the idiots here are happy with Ange Postecoglou "coaching" the team. He's not much more than a church league coach, he wouldn't even be considered for a CCL2 team.. But we're dumb. We've got him running the national team at a WC. It wasn't til the morning after the game. when Mark Bosnich was interviewd on radio in Melbourne, that I've heard anyone acknowledged that we've got deep rooted problems that won't be fixed overnight. In other words, what Verbeek and Osieck have been saying for 5 years!

When the time comes, if you're a betting man, put money on us to fail to qualify for 2018, or at least not to qualify automatically.

[Lousada]

Right I always do this for some fun and as there is a thread on here I guess I might as well publish it for you all to laugh at.

I love pickems :D
I am not going to predict all the matches but these are the teams I think are going to advance to the second round. It looks like everything is set for a Argentina - Brazil final... so it probably will be a different final!
The team I most hope to fail is France, and they have such an easy trail they are in the quarter finals almost by default :mad:
The team I root for most is Belgium. For the first time in 12 years present and this is going to be their year!

I expect quite a bit from Japan, seeing as it is sort of a home tournament for them. They have a reasonably easy poule and quite a decent squad. For some reason I do not think the African nations are going to do really good, no idea why...
There is a lot of talk about Poule B here. In my opinion people are underestimating Chile. They play fantastic technical football and they are at their best against other technical teams. That they are paired with Spain and The Netherlands does not mean that they are already defeated. I could even well see them as group winners.

Group A
Brazil
Croatia

Group B
Spain
Chile

Group C
Colombia
Japan

Group D
Italy
Uruguay

Group E
France
Ecuador

Group F
Argentina
Bosnia & Herz

Group G
Germany
Portugal

Group H
Belgium
South Korea

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Of the 60 penalties missed in Word Cup shoot-outs, 14% have been missed by England.

[steveaki13]

Of the 60 penalties missed in Word Cup shoot-outs, 14% have been missed by England.

That means we havent missed 86% though ;)

[gadjo_dilo]

Of the 60 penalties missed in Word Cup shoot-outs, 14% have been missed by England.

14℅ of 60.........
How many penalties does it mean? :confused:

[Brown, Jon Brow]

I've missed calculated, actually it's 12%, so 7 penalties.

Waddle, Pearce, Ince, Batty, Lampard, Gerrard, Carragher

[gleen]

For me, if it's not Spain, it is Brazil who will win the cup!

[Tazio]

I, of course am pulling for the U.S. but it doesn't look like we will get out of group, especially considering we've had much better sides for international events recently. I think I will pull for France just to piss some of the Anglo/Mafia off, although I picked The Netherlands, and will probably end up pulling for Spain. :crazy:
Are there any clairvoyant pulpo waiting to get to work? :confused:

[donKey jote]

I think Spain would need to be very lucky to get it again. Tiki taka is now well known and can be countered, and they're not even that good at it anymore anyway :laugh:
i hate to think of it, after 2 euros and the last World Cup of driving around our tracks waving a massive Spanish flag in the faces of my work colleagues, but I think this time it will be Germany :dozey:

[Tazio]

Dream on MacDuff! :dozey: :angel:

[Tazio]

So now your bleeeding kraut side comes out :angel:

[odykas]

I think Spain would need to be very lucky to get it again. Tiki taka is now well known and can be countered, and they're not even that good at it anymore anyway :laugh:


I think the biggest issues are keeper and front line.

[journeyman racer]

Germany won't win it. They've lost their killer instinct, that was an intrinsic part of their football culture, the last 10+ years or so. Now, they're more interested in playing stylish, popular footy. B-grader like Klose will get the leading WC goal scoring :o

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Is it the 12th of June yet?
Is it the 12th of June yet?
Is it the 12th of June yet?
Is it the 12th of June yet?
Is it the 12th of June yet?
Is it the 12th of June yet?

I can't wait any longer!!!!

I was feeling a bit negative about the World Cup in Brazil because I felt the climate would make the pace of the games slower and be a disadvantage to the European sides. But now I am really looking forward to it. A World Cup in the worlds greatest football nation will be incredible, plus most of the games will be starting after I finish work.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

So England are preparing for the heat and humidity of Manaus by playing two friendly games in the heat and humidity of Miami against two sides that have qualified for the World Cup (Honduras and Ecuador).

Meanwhile Italy are preparing for Manaus by playing a friendly in the pleasant Italian evening against....Luxenbourg :/

I still place Italy as favourites against England but is playing a friendly in European conditions against one of the weakest sides in the world really the best preparation?

[odykas]

Italians don't need training ;)

[pino]

Italians don't need training ;)

Exactly they only need good referee :p:

[odykas]

If they trained, it would be too hard for everybody else :p:

[gleen]

Few hours, and the show begins :)

[Tazio]

I'm hoping Klinsmann and the boyz make a good showing, They arrive in Brazil winning three friendlies on the trot. However there is a strong likelihood of them losing every match in group, and advancing would take a miracle :angryfire ;)

[steveaki13]

I'm hoping Klinsmann and the boyz make a good showing, They arrive in Brazil winning three friendlies on the trot. However there is a strong likelihood of them losing every match in group, and advancing would take a miracle :angryfire ;)

I think you guys have your strongest side yet, however Germany & Portugal will be tough for anyone. I can see you beating Ghana and maybe drawing with one of the others.

You never know.

[odykas]

Voted for Uruguay
but I don't know why :dozey:

Deja vu?

[steveaki13]

Because Uruguay Rock. :)

[Storm]

Forlan rocks. Suarez does too but to a different beat :p:

[pino]

On my way back home from vacations, just in time for the open match ! Can't wait for Saturday, to see how bad is Italy :p:

[odykas]

Italy is always bad in the beggining of these tournaments.

So, you should worry only in case they play well :p:

[steveaki13]

Good stuff Pino. We can both see how bad Italy and England are. Maybe a nice 0-0

[pino]

Our coach Prandelli hasn't decided yet, how to play in front. I would go for both Immobile and Balotelli with Pirlo, Marchisio, Candreva e De Rossi in the mild field...

[odykas]

Here we go: Brazil vs Croatia :eek:

[gadjo_dilo]

Força Brasil!

[pino]

Yes ! :p:

[pino]

Now gets exciting ;)

[odykas]

Stupid Scolari left Miranda @ home and got Marcelo instead

0 - 1 :laugh:

[gadjo_dilo]

goooolll....

[pino]

Lucky one :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

Lucky one :p:
You're jealous :p

[odykas]

Great goal by Neymar.

It seems that he can score more than last season @ Barca.

[pino]

You're jealous :p

Sorry but that word doesn't exist in my vocabulary :p:

[steveaki13]

Fair play to Neymar. Good goal 1-1 and the world cups first game is quite a good one.

[odykas]

The ref carries some kind of hair sprey. Hilarious :laugh:

[steveaki13]

That spray has been used for 2 or 3 seasons in South America.

I have watched some Argentine football Copa Libertadores and Copa Sudamericana in recent years and its been used there. Its about time it was used wider. Its a good idea

[pino]

Was that a penalty ??? What a joke !!!

[A FONDO]

That penalty was an utter farce. I am afraid it will continue in all Brazil matches till the end :mad:

[odykas]

Stupid ref ruined the match :mad:

[gadjo_dilo]

Was that a penalty ??? What a joke !!!
You're grumpy. :p

[pino]

If they want Brazil to win the Cup, why play the games...just give them the trophy now !

[odykas]

It's not the first time the host team gets FIFA's asistance....

[pino]

I do hope they will send this crappy referee back home, as soon as the match is over !

[gadjo_dilo]

Give me a break. We'll see a lot of referee mistakes in most of the games. I saw too many editions of WC to know it happens all the time. Esp when the referees come from exotic countries.

[gadjo_dilo]

Final apotheosis. :p
Oscar deserved a goal as he was probably the best player of the match.

[steveaki13]

- Brazil penalty was never a penalty and the Ref was almost wetting himself desperate to give it.
- Croatia's goals was ruled by the Ref desperate to rule it out for something.
-There was a foul on a Croatian player before the 3rd goal.

FIFA want Brazil to win apparently.

[pino]

The match has been decided by that penalty. Until then, Croatia played a good game and didn't deserve to lose !

[odykas]

The ref was clearly on a mission.

Apart from this, Brazil was not the team I expected to see.
Overrated imho.

[Alexamateo]

I think Oscar was the best player overall, too. They won't win the World Cup playing like that. Mexico always plays Brazil really well, they may be primed for an upset.

[gadjo_dilo]

Croatia deserved to lose as it. wasn't able to score a goal.

[steveaki13]

The ref was clearly on a mission.

Apart from this, Brazil was not the team I expected to see.
Overrated imho.

This is an honest question. Why did you expect Brazil to be better? Reputation of the past or seeing them win the Confed Cup?

Just wondered because I never really felt this team was likely to win the world cup. They still might of course but I dont see all the hype.

I like Argentina, France, Germany and Spain to be as good if not better.

[gadjo_dilo]

For God's sake, it was just the first match and we know that 2 games aren't alike.
Let's be happy the opening match was quite entertaining ( despite me falling asleep at the beginning of the second half :p) and not the usual dull of other editions.

[pino]

Yes, let's move on and look forward for tomorrow's revenge between Holland and Spain. And let's hope my countryman Rizzoli, doesn't ruin such a great match !

[odykas]

This is an honest question. Why did you expect Brazil to be better? Reputation of the past or seeing them win the Confed Cup?

None of the above :p:

Because Brazil has been named as the favourite team to win the cup by 99% of of the media.
So I had higher expectations.

[steveaki13]

OK.

[Rollo]

I was wondering how long it would take for the first dubious penalty to be awarded in this World Cup and already we have an answer... 71 minutes.

The fact that such an obvious dive could be seen by everyone in the world except the referee is typical of an organisation who answers to no-one and awards World Cups on the basis of bribery to countries with names that sound like musical instruments.

[Storm]

as usual silly refs in big games...nothing new.
Brasil played decent stuff though, Neymar and Oscar especially.. Hulk was a passenger

[Mia 01]

They where gifted the win from the referee. And I expected moore from the team.

[gadjo_dilo]

So I had higher expectations.


And I expected moore from the team

Maybe they keep the best pour la bonne bouche......:confused: :devil:

[pino]

As long as they don't put pizza or spaghetti, in their mouths... ;)

[gadjo_dilo]

Naaahhhhh....
Espana '82 is now history. :laugh:

[journeyman racer]

All the sports/competitions I follow (particular football/soccer leagues/tournaments, Australian football and Rugby league, and NFL) It's been a long, looong time since a refereeing decision had ****** me off as much as that penalty this morning. It completely spoilt a great time that was the opening game of a WC.

In hindsight, if that penalty hadn't been converted, Brazil most likely wouldn't have got the third goal.

[pino]

I am more scared by Argentina and Spain, or even Uruguay...so bring them on ! :D

[gadjo_dilo]

You make me remember that song "''ma come bella l'italia 90 ci sono tutti i campioni del mondo ce l'argentina di diego maradona ma non ci fa paura zenga lo fermera, etc. etc. '' Still sing it under the shower..... :laugh:

[pino]

I am not saying Italy will win the Cup, I am just not impressed by Brazil, and to be honest, very tired of the hype around them made by fans, media, and FIFA...

[gadjo_dilo]

That's weird. I think italian fans and media are all time champions when it comes to hype....:devil:
Anyway, good luck to all the teams involved in this WC. It's just the beginning and the referees will continue to play with our nerves.

[pino]

...and you will play devil, against me ! ;)

[gadjo_dilo]

Noooooo...........................
I can be either :angel: or :devil:

Forza azzurri! .........:kiss: :wave:

[Big Ben]

I'm glad I went to bed at half-time. That referee shouldn't be sent home. He should be sent to jail.

[Mia 01]

I´m afraid that germany will win the cup, not that I mind though.

[pino]

I´m afraid that germany will win the cup, not that I mind though.

I thought you were a Ferrari fan :p:

[steveaki13]

I am not saying Italy will win the Cup, I am just not impressed by Brazil, and to be honest, very tired of the hype around them made by fans, media, and FIFA...

You speak so much sense Pino. I felt the last 2 years Brazil have been over hyped.

[gadjo_dilo]

Dear guys, Brazil is among favorites at EVERY world cup. Because it's probably the only country that participated at ALL 17 editions of WC, because it's theONLY country that won it 5 times, because they usually play a football from other galaxy, because they play to score, because......

(why am I saying these? I used to hate this team.... ):confused:

[pino]

Yes, why are you saying all that ? We all know it ! :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

I thought it's a well kept secret.....


.........that I love Neymar. :angel:

[pino]

Neymar ? What a bad taste you have :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

http://vplay.ro/watch/8fy8gx9u/

De gustibus non est disputandum - as our common ancestors used to say......:angel:

[odykas]

Discipline anyone? :dozey: :p:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqA6fXGCQAAU4ar.jpg

[pino]

Lol ody haha !!! :D

[Storm]

discipline on pitch while defending? Greece #1 :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

Mexic - Cameroon.

Can't believe that Roger Milla is not playing anymore.......:devil:

[odykas]

Mexico vs Cameroon now

Or Marquez vs Eto'o

[pino]

Go Cameroon !!! :D

[odykas]

The linesman is offside :evil:

That would be 1 - 0 for Mexico

[odykas]

Offside again? WTF? :evil:

[Alexamateo]

Finally an allowed goal for Mexico!

[odykas]

Spain vs Nethernalds in a while.

Donks, where are you? :)

[pino]

Lo siento mucho...but I will support The Netherlands ! :D

[gadjo_dilo]

Me too. For the first time in my life.

[pino]

Can't believe he didn't score there !!!

[pino]

Btw what a great welcome to Diego Costa :p:

[odykas]

Long live tikitaka :D

[gadjo_dilo]

I have a feeling he'll miss it....

[gadjo_dilo]

nooooooo.......

[pino]

Was that penalty ???

[odykas]

I'm not sure if it was a penalty or not.

But I think it was a too risky attempt by the defender.

[pino]

Need to see the replay, as I am not sure the was a penalty...stupid referee :p:

[pino]

Yeees !!!!!

[gadjo_dilo]

Superb goal of Van Persie......

[steveaki13]

Costa dived. Stuck his leg out and stepped on the defender. How is that a foul? More cheating... getting sad now.

Costa being hailed as clever. To me he's a cheater. Football is becoming a sad game.

[Alexamateo]

Que golazo!

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Van Persie, that was a beautiful goal!

[gadjo_dilo]

Costa dived. Stuck his leg out and stepped on the defender. How is that a foul? More cheating... getting sad now.

Costa being hailed as clever. To me he's a cheater. Football is becoming a sad game.
At the end of the day Costa is brazilian so it was natural t get a penalty from the italian referee who should be sent home. :p

[pino]

Saw the replay, and I agree with you Steve, that was not penalty ! Can't believe referees are still taking wrong decisions. What a joke :mad:

[Alexamateo]

As an aside, I think the hotel got mixed up and sent them Italy and England's laundry by mistake. :p

[pino]

Yes FIFA should send him back to Italy, along with those who are taking wrong decisions !

[Alexamateo]

Robben!

[pino]

Yees another great goal !!!

[gadjo_dilo]

I'll be happy if Sneijder will score too.....

[pino]

I don't care who scores, as long as is The Netherlands !

[pino]

Noooooo !!!

[gadjo_dilo]

Spain is groggy.........

[pino]

Wrong move by Casillas !

[pino]

1-4 to The Netherlands ! :eek:

[Alexamateo]

1-5 wow!

[steveaki13]

Saw the replay, and I agree with you Steve, that was not penalty ! Can't believe referees are still taking wrong decisions. What a joke :mad:

If anything Costa stamped on Dutch guys leg. Should be a FK other way.

Anyway Justice has been done and some.

[steveaki13]

Spain are not at the end of an era though of course. :rolleyes::D

I like Spain normally, but after that Pen I am glad Netherlands have won.

I really think Chile can beat this current Spanish Side.

[gadjo_dilo]

:eek:

[gadjo_dilo]

Spain is my nominee for the donkey of this tournament. :p

[pino]

I still don't believe it, this could have ended 1-7 to The Netherlands !!!

[gadjo_dilo]

I missed the 5th goal. I was sleeping.

[EightGear]

Someone wake me up.:D

[pino]

Someone kept me awake the whole evening :p:

[odykas]

Spain is my nominee for the donkey of this tournament. :p

Spain's defence

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqCZ71PIQAA12yS.jpg

[gadjo_dilo]

Will you guys resist to watch Chile-Australia?

[pino]

Will you guys resist to watch Chile-Australia?

Will you, or will you fall asleep as you did in the last match ? :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

It will start at 1.00 - my local time.
I already fixed some toothpicks to keep eyes open.
But I love Chile's anthem and the way they sing. Ivan Zamorano was not only a good player but also a soulful singer.

[pino]

Won't stay for next match, so enjoy it and goodnight ! ;)

[steveaki13]

I am watching Chile v Oz

Gadjo. Romania could do better than Spain tonight. :eek::p

[gadjo_dilo]

Yeah, we were in the same qualification group with the Netherlands and we were beaten at home only with 4-1.:p
But I have all the respect for them cos they played fair in the group until the last game. They were already qualified but played. against Hungary with their best team and. to win. It's only our fault we missed the chance to be in Brazil. That's why. I'll support them at WC although during the European Cup I said I hate this team.
Heard/seen the chilean anthem, now I can go to sleep. Good night!

[steveaki13]

Wow what a first 35 minutes here. Chile attacking all out and 2-0 up after 15 minutes and out of the blue Australia pull one back 2-1.

Good start to the World Cup barring a couple of dive penalties.

[Tazio]

I think I will pull for France just to piss some of the Anglo/Mafia off, although I picked The Netherlands, :crazy:
Are there any clairvoyant pulpo waiting to get to work? :confused:

Yep that is my lone vote for the Netherlands on top of the screen which at this point is not looking too bad. My god what a bloodletting. :eek:
Gadji The Chilean National Anthem is my second fav, right behind France :)

I guess we have to settle for a clairvoyant tortuga this time around

[journeyman racer]

What an amazing demolition of Spain that was.

[gadjo_dilo]

Yep that is my lone vote for the Netherlands on top of the screen which at this point is not looking too bad.
What else could we have expected from the self entitled '' reigning freakin' F1 pickems champion'"? :p

Gadji The Chilean National Anthem is my second fav, right behind France :)


I think I said that french anthem is my fav on the thread. about european championship ( ilustrateded with a short video from Casablanca when Victor Laszlo orders "la Maseillaise'' :p)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsg9i6lvqU&feature=kp



I guess we have to settle for a clairvoyant tortuga this time aroundNo need as long as you're among us.:laugh:

[Storm]

This was almost like Barca v Bayern last year...we already knew Ramos and Pique are piss poor, but Casillas too? Not playing everyweek seems to have caught up finally. Valdes must be ruing the fact he got injured.

[Rollo]

3-1 down for Australia is better than I'd predicted at 4-0; it very nearly was 4 except for a clearance off the line.

I expect that the papers tomorrow will all have tales of "bravery" and whatnot and then go back to their usual Rugby League muck on Monday; because Murdoch's papers push what they want to push.

Can we expect to see double figures by the Netherlands in the next fixture? Maybe. If Brazil and France could both slot 6 past Australia then Robben and Van Persie who are absolutely on fire, will burn Australia's defences to cinders.

[journeyman racer]

I expect that the papers tomorrow will all have tales of "bravery" and whatnot and then go back to their usual Rugby League muck on Monday; because Murdoch's papers push what they want to push.
To be fair, it is State of Origin time.


Can we expect to see double figures by the Netherlands in the next fixture? Maybe. If Brazil and France could both slot 6 past Australia then Robben and Van Persie who are absolutely on fire, will burn Australia's defences to cinders.
We're an immensely **** team, but we're not a laughing stock like Spain! ;)

[steveaki13]

My prediction of losing all matches and conceding 20 goals still stands.

So they are 3 into your total. A couple of 9-0 losses needed now. ;)


Right I always do this for some fun and as there is a thread on here I guess I might as well publish it for you all to laugh at.

Group A
Brazil 3-1 Croatia
Mexico 2-1 Cameroon

Group B
Spain 1-1 Netherlands
Chile 4-0 Australia

:D

My group A predictions were pretty damn close, Group B I got the Chile level sort of right.

To be honest if anyone predicted 1-5 for Netherlands I hope they won a lot of money. :D

[Tazio]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTsg9i6lvqU&feature=kp

self entitled '' reigning freakin' F1 pickems champion'"?

Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful. :kiss:




No need as long as you're among us.:laugh:

Si señorita (de mascara), watch out for Méjico! What else would you like to know? :ninja: ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqjq2s_bHPA

[gadjo_dilo]

Can we expect to see double figures by the Netherlands in the next fixture? Maybe. If Brazil and France could both slot 6 past Australia then Robben and Van Persie who are absolutely on fire, will burn Australia's defences to cinders.
Don't think so. It was important to win against Spain and to be the leader of this group to avoid Brazil on the next stage. Normally Chile and Australia can't raise many problems so Netherlands may keep their energy for the future. But I'm talking about the same team that although already qualified at WC made a shocking 8-1 against Hungary.......

[Mia 01]

I sheer and hoped that the Dutch team would beat the boring Spain, and man, what a beating Spain took.

[gadjo_dilo]

Don't hate me 'cause I'm beautiful. :kiss:

But who can possibly hate you?:devil:

What else would you like to know? :


Nothing. I like to be surprised. :angel:

[pino]

How about some prediction for tonight ? I think it will be a close fight, hopefully 2-1 to Italy :D

[pino]

Italy's biggest problem is how to replace legendary Buffon, in case he won't be fit for the match...

[Tazio]

Too close to call Pino, good luck! May the forza be with you! ;)

[steveaki13]

My predictions as made earlier before the World Cup started





Group C
Colombia 1-0 Greece
Ivory Coast 1-1 Japan

Group D (being honest not with England tinted glasses)
Costa Rica 1-3 Uruguay
England 1-1 Italy

[gadjo_dilo]

I predict a convenient 0-0 and a boring game for the pino-steve match.

Colombia-Greece.......It's hard cos I love both of them. But Colombia without Falcao is like a wedding without fiddlers or like this thread without race aficionado whose comments I enjoyed a lot.:p
BTW, what happened with him?

[steveaki13]

I predict a convenient 0-0 and a boring game for the pino-steve match.

Colombia-Greece.......It's hard cos I love both of them. But Colombia without Falcao is like a wedding without fiddlers or like this thread without race aficionado whose comments I enjoyed a lot.:p
BTW, what happened with him?

Dont know. I miss him too. He was nice, sensible and funny.

Anyway I wouldn't disagree with 0-0. I reckon we will score early and think we are great (players I mean), then we will be pummelled and concede in the second half and hang on for the draw.

Gadjo I love Colombia too. Rene Higuita is a hero of mine. :p

[pino]

I predict a convenient 0-0 and a boring game for the pino-steve match.



I hope you will be wrong, actually I am almost sure, you will ! :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

Let's hope so. Otherwise I'll fall asleep. Again.

[gadjo_dilo]

Gadjo I love Colombia too. Rene Higuita is a hero of mine. :p
Mine was Valderrama :laugh:

[steveaki13]

Both had some cool hair.

[donKey jote]

Spain vs Nethernalds in a while.

Donks, where are you? :)
I was flying back over the Atlantic... Did I miss something? :p

[gadjo_dilo]

Not really but we missed you. :kiss:

[donKey jote]

Spain's defence

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqCZ71PIQAA12yS.jpg
:laugh: :up:
spot on ody.. Do you have any pics of the forwards too? :p

[donKey jote]

I think Spain would need to be very lucky to get it again. Tiki taka is now well known and can be countered, and they're not even that good at it anymore anyway :laugh:

I now think Spain would need to be very lucky to get past the first round :p

[steveaki13]

:laugh:
spot on ody.. Do you have any pics of the forwards too? :p

https://www.naturalhorsetalk.com/images/SimonminiballCROP.JPG

Look its Torres

[donKey jote]

That's the one hahahahaa :laugh: :laugh:

[donKey jote]

Not really but we missed you. :kiss:
Gadji you tease, taz will get jealous :andrea: :sailor:

[gadjo_dilo]

But I'm sure he missed you too.........

[odykas]

this thread without race aficionado whose comments I enjoyed a lot.:p
BTW, what happened with him?

+1

Race, are you around amigo? :)

[steveaki13]

I think Colombiano should beat Greece but it will be tight. Sorry Ody. :(

What does anyone else think?

[pino]

It's now confirmed that Buffon will not play tonight, and may not play at all in this tournament :(

[odykas]

^ Balls :dozey:

[pino]

As for race, miss him too as he was one if not the nicest person I spoke on this forum !

[gadjo_dilo]

As for race, miss him too as he was one if not the nicest person I spoke on this forum !
I thought the nicest was me.....:confused:

[steveaki13]

It's now confirmed that Buffon will not play tonight, and may not play at all in this tournament :(

Thats sad. He has been a legend for so long. He deserved better in his final World Cup. Hope he can play some games at some point.

Is he likely to retire after this Pino? Or will he try and make Euro 2016.

Sorry to hear that Pino.

[steveaki13]

I thought the nicest was me.....:confused:

:andrea::love:

[donKey jote]

Sent by a work colleague via WhatsApp :laugh:http://i62.tinypic.com/10qe0pe.j10qe0pe.jpg

[pino]

Nice words steve thanks ! No he won't retire, his target are both next European Champ, and World Cup.

[pino]

Italians doctors are confident Buffon could play vs Uruguay :)

[steveaki13]

Nice words steve thanks ! No he won't retire, his target are both next European Champ, and World Cup.

Wow. Fair play to him. I like Buffon. One legendary goalkeeper in the history of Football. How old will he be by the next world cup?

[steveaki13]

Italians doctors are confident Buffon could play vs Uruguay :)

Good news.

[steveaki13]

Wow Greece defense plan in early tatters here.

Colombiano with 90% of the stadium. Its a rocking atmosphere. So much better these games than those in South Africa and vuvuzelas

Exciting stuff

[gadjo_dilo]

Where's Karagounnis? :confused:

[pino]

He will be 40, and the first player to have competed in 6 World Cup !

[gadjo_dilo]

He's old but Roger Milla played at WC when he was 42. And he was a striker......:eek:

[pino]

Btw I am not watching this, setting in the sun, listening a group who play Neil Young ! Sorry the off topic :p:

[pino]

Dino Zoff became world champ in Spain at the age of 41 ;)

[pino]

I thought the nicest was me.....:confused:

Sorry but I barely know you, while I have known race for years. You need to work hard in order to beat him :p:

[gadjo_dilo]

Work hard? :eek:

No sir! I prefer to retire....

[odykas]

Greece :snore:

[pino]

Work hard? :eek:

No sir! I prefer to retire....

As you wish, but please don't call me Sir, I am not that old ! ;)

[pino]

Greece :snore:

Ody, save your energy for the Azzurri :p:

[odykas]

What a dive by Samaras :laugh:

[gadjo_dilo]

As you wish, but please don't call me Sir, I am not that old ! ;)

nothing to do with the age. it's the respect I show to barely known persons. in my mother language we have to use such ways of addressing like sir, mr., mrs or the plural form of pronoun-second person. :devil:

[pino]

Colombia 3 Greece 0 !

[odykas]

Ody, save your energy for the Azzurri :p:

I hope they do better :dozey:

[pino]

I hope they do better :dozey:

Me too ody, but won't be easy !

[Tazio]

Wow Greece really whupped, hopefully the Italy-England match is more competitive. I'm starting to get geeked for that one. :uhoh: :crazy:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqGj4p-IgAAuRom.jpg

:angel:

[odykas]

Tazio! :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqGwFJtCIAAfHJs.jpg

[steveaki13]

I hope they do better :dozey:

I dont. ;)

[odykas]

Tea or Espresso?

This is the question.

[donKey jote]

Tazio! :eek:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqGwFJtCIAAfHJs.jpg

That's him ! :sailor: :kiss:

[Tazio]

Tazio!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqGwFJtCIAAfHJs.jpg

Wowsi wowsi woo woo :eek:

which has reminded me of another totally hot (in her day) Colombian

http://www.allleftturns.com/wp-content/uploads/articles/73413054CM041_Telcel_Motoro.JPG

She is too good for Juan! :p:

[steveaki13]

which has reminded me of another totally hot (in her day) Colombian

http://www.allleftturns.com/wp-content/uploads/articles/73413054CM041_Telcel_Motoro.JPG

She is too good for Juan! :p:

Absolutely. I used to love a Montoya win. ;)

[steveaki13]

Anyway. Pino what you making of our rivals so far.

They both look a bit poor to be honest. Early days though.

[gadjo_dilo]

Can't decide who's the cutest, Cavani or Caceres? :confused:

[steveaki13]

Can't decide who's the cutest, Cavani or Caceres? :confused:

Rios :D

[odykas]

Cavani missed by a mile :p:

[pino]

Anyway. Pino what you making of our rivals so far.

They both look a bit poor to be honest. Early days though.

Now that Uruguay leads, we will see more about both sides ;)

[steveaki13]

Campbell certainly looks lively.

[janneppi]

Someone should step on Diego Lugano's legs after his dives, shameful acting from a team's captain.

[pino]

Italy's line-up :

Sirigu

Darmian Barzagli Paletta Chiellini

De Rossi Pirlo Marchisio Verratti

Candreva Balotelli

[steveaki13]

England team.



Hart:
Johnson, Jagielka, Cahill, Baines;
Gerrard, Henderson;
Welbeck, Sterling, Rooney;
Sturridge."

[Tazio]

That's him ! :sailor: :kiss:
I can't even imagine how many babes would want to get with me if I looked like that :facelick: :devil:

[gadjo_dilo]

goal....:eek:

[Tazio]

Cambell!!

[steveaki13]

Cambell!!

Sol? :D

Wow. Deserved really, Uruguay have been average. I predicted 2-1 so its still on.