Rally Poland 2014

[donlorean]

Any idea when RG 1 is going to be published?

[Juha_Koo]

Good thread! Waiting for RG1, as I'm planning an extensive journey to Rally Poland. :)

Locals with good accomodation tips etc, hit me with PM! :)

[MartijnS]

We're interested in some info too!

Probably going there :)

[br21]

I'm afraid rally won't be as cheap as people expect... (accommodation, restaurants, etc). Prices are going very high each time before the rally. You already should look for accommodation in Mikolajki or north-east from there as the rally will be held mostly in that area (stages around Gizycko, Suwalki, some in Lithuania, remote service zone in Druskininkai - Lithuania). If you plan to come by plane every airport in Warsaw will be ok (Okecie or Modlin), Gdansk is not bad also, but little bit further.
If you need any more info feel free to PM me.

[mArtini racing]

I'm also very interested!!

These days I'll be searching for accomodation

[wwbroe]

Hey guys, i know it is still quite a long time before Rally Poland is starting but i would like some more info about it. There is not too much info on the official website. Would some of you Polish members possibly provide some additional info. If you don't want it on the forum, please send me PM. Thanks in advance. ;)

[Juha_Koo]

There's already a thread... ;) --> viewtopic.php?f=98&t=160283 (http://motorsportforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=160283)

[wwbroe]

There's already a thread... ;) --> http://motorsportforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=160283

Sorry for that one, i did a search on Poland but it didn't show :( , so i started new thread. Maybe some moderator can put it together?

[scorpaguy]

Rainer Friedemann/A&S Tours??

This group is advertising a nice package tour to Poland. Does anyone have any experience with this group?

Neither Rally Tour or Rally Tours is going to Poland...but I cannot find any feedback on these folks. Anyone know them?

[wwbroe]

Does somebody have a decent website where you can find vacation houses in the area of the rally? As we will be going with a group of 8 to 12 people i would like to rent a house over there. ;)

[papar007]

What's the price of petrol in Poland? Thanks

[dimviii]

What's the price of petrol in Poland? Thanks

http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/

[papar007]

What's the price of petrol in Poland? Thanks

http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/
Thanks i know that, something more specific ?
For example in Greece, every July and August the price is always more expensive than now!
?????????! ;)

[wrc1600]

http://www.paliwa.pl/cenypaliw

[tolis]

What's the price of petrol in Poland? Thanks

http://www.fuel-prices-europe.info/
Thanks i know that, something more specific ?
For example in Greece, every July and August the price is always more expensive than now!
?????????! ;)
Are u thinking of going paparrrrrrr???

[papar007]

Yes, i'll do 5000 Km to go and get back, certaintly a good rally for me!

[br21]

http://www.rajdpolski.pl/zawodnicy
some more details, itinerary, rally guide 1, etc

[donlorean]

Just read that and it seems that there is not possible to use regular fuel. Only FIA fuel...

Is anyone idea how it has been previous years? Is there gas stations during rally route that it is even possible to use regular fuel?
We are planning to compete there and just do some calculations about it. We don't need FIA fuel so regular fuel save's a lot for us if it's possible...

[Bartek]

For those who are looking for a accomodation: I spoke with friends from that region and they suggest to search rooms in a cities like a W?gorzewo, Gi?ycko and in a small cities near them. It's gonna be a super fast rally with many jumps :)

[wrc1600]

Rally guide 1 http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/pliki/za ... 2-2014.pdf (http://www.rajdpolski.pl/pliki/pliki/zawodnicy/2014/rg/RG1-23-02-2014.pdf)

[wrc1600]

For those looking for accommodation organizers set up web site http://rallypoland.travel/

[Juha_Koo]

We have an accomodation in Kruklanki, shouldn't be too far from SS2... :D

Schedule and itinerary looks really nice, only small issue is that as we arrive on Tuesday we'll only have one complete recce day. Looking forward!

[Koceens]

How about setting up your own tent alongside the stages?
I have never used accommodation facilities in summer rallies such as national events in my own country Latvia or rally Finland. I guess the weather is approximately the same in the rally region. For those who visited the rally back in 2009, how difficult it was to find a campground for your overnight stay?

[br21]

Usually there was no problem to set your tent somewhere in the field/forest next to the stage.

[Juha_Koo]

Does anyone have information concerning these stages, have they been driven before in some competition?

SS4/9 Wieliczki
Lithuanian stages
Saturday's stages

Any idea what is going to be used as a Shakedown stage?

[br21]

Wieliczki seems to be new stage.
Lithuanian stages maybe were run as part of Druskininkai rally, but I'm not sure, need to check.
Saturday:
- Chmielewo should be similar to "Grabowka" from 2009 - very nice stage!
- Stare Juchy - stage might be similar to "Gawliki" from 2009
- Babki and Goldap - both new stages, Goldap they say should have huge jump.

Shakedown not sure yet. In few past years it was run on super special track, but everybody was very unhappy, so they are looking for different stage.

[pantealex]

They will take only 70 entries and it is part of every sub category
so
70
-12 DMack-fiesta
-12 or more JWRC
-3 WRC3 maybe
=43
-10 to 15 WRC2
-13 to 18 WRC
=10 to 20 places left for privateers

Is it enough ?
or will there be more drivers who will make entry?

[PLuto]

70 is enough I think...

[Mintexmemory]

70 is enough I think...

Are the organisers obliged to take any entry registered for a FIA championship? If so nominated round WRC2 and 3entries plus all WRC must be allowed in. I think you are right Mr P there should still be enough places for all who wish to enter

[PLuto]

Yes, they are obliged to take their entry. But to say the truth, I dont remember any WRC event from last years, where they have problems with too many entries. Usually the problem is opposite...

[Hartusvuori]

Yes, they are obliged to take their entry. But to say the truth, I dont remember any WRC event from last years, where they have problems with too many entries. Usually the problem is opposite...

I remember Rally Finland 2011 had that positive problem. Eventually 118 crews started the event, but few were not given the chance.

[mousti]

Hyundai with Neuville, Hanninen and Paddon.

[Juha_Koo]

Hey locals, any info on the shakedown yet? Nothing on the official site...

[Muchonen]

Hey locals, any info on the shakedown yet?

Havent heard about it yet. Talking about tent, I live ca. 100km from Mikolajki (Olsztyn) and also have a summer house like 50+ from rally, but me and my friends choose tent and sleeping near stages. Why? Well, main reason is that we would have to drive through Mikolajki to get to stages, which for me is worst thing. There will be HUGE traffic jams, so my advice is that u should avoid that area as much as u can ( I know that its rally base but just don't drive thereof u can). And of course we want to fell that rally spirit as much is we can :)

[Tauri_J]

Hi guys!

I'm planning to go to Rally Poland this summer. I'm from Estonia. I already booked a nice hostel/hotel in Oszkinie.

So I have some questions about the rally.

Should I buy the rallypass from the internet? rally's homepage is kinda confusing...Does anyone know if I order the pass from the internet, they will send all the materials from here(estonia). I'd really like to get the maps of the stages to plan the trip already not at the last minute.


Rally Pass Plus – 4 days 200 PLN
Entitles to:

Enter all the official Viewing Points on Special Stages of Lotos 71st Rally Poland – during all 4 days of the rally
Enter the Super Special Stage Mikolajki Arena – standing zone by the track – during all 4 days of the rally
Enter the Shakedown on Thursday 26.06.2014
Enter the Service Park – during all 4 days of the rally
Enter the parking area located near all the Viewing Points, as well as the Mikolajki Arena* – during all 4 days of the rally
Receive an Official Rally Programme with the maps of Special Stages in Points of Sale and entrances to Special Stages on the basis of a voucher
Receive a Fan ID Badge along with an official souvenir lanyard of Lotos 71st Rally Poland

Thanks for your help guys!

[STI69]

I got info from the Rally Poland Facebook that when you buy online the ticket, you'll get a voucher you need to print out and take with you to the rally ticket sales point where you'll get your ordered kit. Everybody complained on Facebook that 2009 there were really long queues for getting tickets...
So not very good solution but no other options. I have been on Rally Finland more than 20 times as this is close to Estonia and this summer we will go to Rally Poland for a first time. We'll see afterwards was this a good idea or not.

[uranium]

Could anybody please clarify some queastion regarding tickets. Because from the official site is not clear what is the best choice price/quality.

I am going to visit rally with family. So, we are 2 adults and boy 8 years old.
As far as I understand for boy we don't need ticket. Correct?

We are going by car.

What tickets do we need to get to Super Special Stage and have parking for 4 days.
Do we need to buy at least 2 tickets Rally Pass Plus – 4 days 200 PLN
Or it is enough to have one ticket for 200 and one for 150?

Or ticket for 150 doesn't allow to enter SSS at all and we need 2 tickets for 200?

Are there separete tickets for SSS?

[uranium]

Another question about Special Stage Maps.
Why on off site these maps requires special password? When they can be available for spectators?

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Rally Wrc Poland'14 http://bit.ly/1o2P65S

[sindroms]

Another question about Special Stage Maps.
Why on off site these maps requires special password? When they can be available for spectators?

Stage maps - http://rajdpolski.pl/pliki/zawodnicy/2014/maps/overview_rally_map_pl-lt.pdf

[rallyfun]

Could anybody please clarify some queastion regarding tickets. Because from the official site is not clear what is the best choice price/quality.

I am going to visit rally with family. So, we are 2 adults and boy 8 years old.
As far as I understand for boy we don't need ticket. Correct?

We are going by car.

What tickets do we need to get to Super Special Stage and have parking for 4 days.
Do we need to buy at least 2 tickets Rally Pass Plus – 4 days 200 PLN
Or it is enough to have one ticket for 200 and one for 150?

Or ticket for 150 doesn't allow to enter SSS at all and we need 2 tickets for 200?

Are there separete tickets for SSS?

To get to Super Special Stage you need to buy 200zl Rally Passes Plus, there are no separate tickets for this venue. Also those passes include parking stickers for all car parks except VIP areas.

[uranium]

To get to Super Special Stage you need to buy 200zl Rally Passes Plus, there are no separate tickets for this venue. Also those passes include parking stickers for all car parks except VIP areas.

Thanks you!
As far as I understand, main difference between 200 and 300 is seating places on SSS and some souvenirs?

[Muchonen]

Exactly

[mousti]

Entry list of Polski

Solowow and Holowczycz in Fiesta WRC's Bouffier on the list with a Fiesta R5

http://rajdpolski.pl/pliki/zawodnicy/2014/entry_list_lotos_71st_rally_poland.pdf

[wwbroe]

Does any of you guys know if there are any decent maps available for Rally poland stages? Is there a digital version of maps where you can import some tracks as GPX files? Thanks in advance for any answers.

[Juha_Koo]

Does any of you guys know if there are any decent maps available for Rally poland stages? Is there a digital version of maps where you can import some tracks as GPX files? Thanks in advance for any answers.

I'm also very interested in proper maps. Possible answers, please PM me. Thanks.

[br21]

not perfect, but better than nothing:
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7WPE-473TAXakNYaGJ3V0xPTnc&usp=sharing

[sindroms]

Any ideas how many hours before 1st car stages are closed?

[STI69]

Thanks for maps! Do you have also Lithuanian stages maps?

[br21]

if you want more info try to PM me

[JieM]

Maps online -> http://kibice.rajdpolski.pl/en/maps/

[Juha_Koo]

Maps online -> http://kibice.rajdpolski.pl/en/maps/

I'm amazed, nearly _ALL_ access roads to stages show "no entry"! :O Was it like this also in 2009 or 2013?

[rallyfun]

I'm amazed, nearly _ALL_ access roads to stages show "no entry"! :O Was it like this also in 2009 or 2013?

Ridiculous isn't it? 2009 was really good, last years was disaster already.

[rallyfun]

Any ideas how many hours before 1st car stages are closed?

usually 3 hours

[br21]

I'm amazed, nearly _ALL_ access roads to stages show "no entry"! :O Was it like this also in 2009 or 2013?

idiotic way of organizing an event...

[Juha_Koo]

Wow, that's really bad news for our trip... Sounds really idiotic and I guess makes traffic jams really bad...

[sindroms]

I'm amazed, nearly _ALL_ access roads to stages show "no entry"!

I bought Mazury region map (1:75 000) today and started to do research regarding stage access. Well, there are plenty of very small access roads, lets hope for it.

[JieM]

I bought Mazury region map (1:75 000) today and started to do research regarding stage access. Well, there are plenty of very small access road, lets hope for it.

Where do you buy these maps please ?

[sindroms]

Where do you buy these maps please ?

I bought it in local map store "Jāņa Sēta" in Riga. Seems like it's available in polish on-line store as well - http://cartomedia.pl/pl/p/Mazury-Kraina-Wielkich-Jezior/432 Don't know if is possible to purchase it in non Poland.

[JieM]

Ok thanks :)

[rallyfun]

I bought Mazury region map (1:75 000) today and started to do research regarding stage access. Well, there are plenty of very small access roads, lets hope for it.

They will be blocked but if you get there before closing should be ok or just walk some km from the main road.

[sindroms]

They will be blocked but if you get there before closing should be ok or just walk some km from the main road.

Are you sure, that EVERY single smallest access road, not only roads showed on stage maps, will be blocked? Somehow I don't believe it.
Anyway, seems like traffic will be a mess.

[Juha_Koo]

JieM, sindroms, have you received my PM?

[sindroms]

J sindroms, have you received my PM?

Look in your PM.

[br21]

Looking forward to meet there some forum members!

[Juha_Koo]

They will be blocked but if you get there before closing should be ok or just walk some km from the main road.

So you believe (know?) that "no entry" means no entry with car, but marshals will let you walk in from there?


Look in your PM.

Thanks, same for you now! ;)

[br21]

So you believe (know?) that "no entry" means no entry with car, but marshals will let you walk in from there?

Yes, it was always like that, and should be this year also. They may check tickets there also. But can't stop you, as rally is held on public area, not in private property...

[STI69]

Videos from viewing points: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCa5sXCR4AnNqU-USBlMeo8w

[Muchonen]

Sindroms, there is no way, that EVERY gravel path (sometimes its hard to call them roads) will be closed. Some of them yes, but not every single one. You can give them a try, but my advice is that u should do some research. And not only with map, but also with Google maps cause to be honest, some of those roads are undrivable. Of course best way is to drive stages earlier and find some roads, but ofc not everybody can do this.

[rallymikolajki]

15 euro per day for accommodation - check https://www.facebook.com/RallyTravelPL?ref=ts&fref=ts

[dimviii]

nice livery!

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[dimviii]

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[br21]

teams start to arrive to Mikolajki, most big services are becoming build....
weather is again not very good, some rain today and pretty cold, people say it will be like that in upcoming days also...

[dimviii]

teams start to arrive to Mikolajki, most big services are becoming build....
weather is again not very good, some rain today and pretty cold, people say it will be like that in upcoming days also...

waiting for your technical review after the rally.
2 beers.

[bluuford]

Yeah, weather will be mixed. Big picture says that little rain is expected during Thursday stages, medium rain on Friday morning stages. dry for Friday afternoon and whole Saturday, dry Sunday morning and a bit rainy in the afternoon. It is very general, because it is still far away.

[br21]

Yeah, weather will be mixed. Big picture says that little rain is expected during Thursday stages, medium rain on Friday morning stages. dry for Friday afternoon and whole Saturday, dry Sunday morning and a bit rainy in the afternoon. It is very general, because it is still far away.

thanx for info! waiting for some updates in upcoming days. and what about temperature?

[bluuford]

thanx for info! waiting for some updates in upcoming days. and what about temperature?

Thursday stages and shake will be very cold and wet. temperature +10..+14.

Friday Lithuanina stages might escape from Thursday rain and there might be clouy morning with light rain and dry afternoon. temperature +13..+18 Polish stage most probably is not going to escape that rain and morning stage shoul be wet, evening dry.

Saturday morning will be very cold, maybe +6..+7 degrees during the sunrise. Temperature during the day will be +15..+20. Should be dry

Sunday: Should be mostly dry but cloudy. Risk of rain gradually increases but no major rain is currently visible. Temperature is the highest +18..+21, wind turns to south.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bq5JdKLIEAAemXm.jpg:large

Colin Clark @voiceofrally · 52 λεπ.
Lots of rain in Luthuania this morning. Stages very muddy, very slippery, but stupidly fast! Could be interesting!!!

[bluuford]

New duck-baby for handbrake;-)

[Barreis]

Who's car is that?

[uranium]

Question about spectators area. If there is green road to spectators area, does it mean it will be open during rally, or it is also closed 3 hours before start of the first car?

[bluuford]

Who's car is that?

Question of the day ;-)

[Barreis]

Jml?

[stefanvv]

Must be some Estonian:)

[bluuford]

Estonian indeed;-)

[stefanvv]

As the people like to say: "Let the new Duck, brings him Luck"!:)

[makinen_fan]

Question of the day ;-)

Tanak?

[bluuford]

Tanak?
Correct! If you have noticed then he didnt had his duck during last couple of rallies. This duck went to retirement pension. The one in the picture is new baby-duck:-)

[makinen_fan]

Correct! If you have noticed then he didnt had his duck during last couple of rallies. This duck went to retirement pension. The one in the picture is new baby-duck:-)

Yes I remember WRC radio talking about this! He forgot to take it to Argentina and then decided not to for Italy as well. Lets hope this one brings more luck to him and finally do a rally without issues

[Tauri_J]

Hi guys, I'll be arriving tomorrow in Poland and I have a question.

How is the mobile internet in Poland? can I buy a SIM card with 5/10/15GBs of bandwith at the gas stations or from the local shops?

thanks

[drive]

some pics from Tue - big boys have arrived! :)
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.679008488814144.1073741826.100001149966463&type=1&l=949e25b809

[wrc1600]

Hi guys, I'll be arriving tomorrow in Poland and I have a question.

How is the mobile internet in Poland? can I buy a SIM card with 5/10/15GBs of bandwith at the gas stations or from the local shops?

thanks
With Orange you can get 1Gb for 25 PLN top-up

[litifeta]

any streaming links will be appreciated.

2 vodkas for you

[rallymikolajki]

Robert Kubica before Rally Poland -- tests and interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH4vs7bNHCI

[dimviii]

Lefebvre with Red Bull and PH sport( Loeb help)
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/St%C3%A9phane-Lefebvre-par-Red-Bull-357x275.jpg

[sindroms]

@Karlip1 #WRC #RallyPoland [COC COMMUNICATION] The long lithuanian stage of Rally Poland shortened due to rain damage. 26km to 12km.

http://rajdpolski.pl/en/2014/longest-lithuanian-special-stage-shortened

[bluuford]

So, Henning is going to use DMack tyres with his Fiesta WRC. When was the last WRCar using DMack?

[AMSS]

So, Henning is going to use DMack tyres with his Fiesta WRC. When was the last WRCar using DMack?

Must have been Koziucko in his last rally with the Mini last year?
Anyway quit a surprising choice...

[Juha_Koo]

Any forumers among the Czech fans today on Milki stage with silver Ford Transit and some Ford minivan? :) Greetings from the Volvo behind...

Recced few Polish stages today, at times VERY fast sections! Stages at some points had some water damage and soft spots, but generally quite okay condition. Smaller roads are soft (which is no surprise). Waiting for a fast and interesting rally! :)

[samWRC]

So, Henning is going to use DMack tyres with his Fiesta WRC. When was the last WRCar using DMack?

Melicharek in Rally Sardinia.

[mousti]

Must have been Koziucko in his last rally with the Mini last year?
Anyway quit a surprising choice...

Not a choice I think, probably a good deal..

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[AMSS]

Not a choice I think, probably a good deal..

Sent from my HTC Desire X using Tapatalk 2

Yes but the deal he had with Pirelli couldn't have been bad either...

[Tauri_J]

Any information about the shakedown?

In which order the cars would go on to the track?

[bluuford]

Any information about the shakedown?

In which order the cars would go on to the track?
If I am not mistaken then they go in random order
And about Henning.. I think it was an interesting choiche bearing in mind that these tyres were good in soft and muddy surface.
And regaring the weather.. it looks like it will be dry until at around 11 AM. After that there is a high risk of heavy rain..but if you are lucky then the rain will go more to the east.. to the stages in the east.

[Tauri_J]

Thanks. I am definetly going to the shakedown.

cant wait. First wrc rally.

[dimviii]

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[br21]

Longest lithuanian stage shortened because of rain damage and also too many very long straight sections - teams were complaining about that. In genereal lithuanian stages will be very demanding for cars as they are quite narrow, soft and rough. So they are completely different to the polish stage also run on Friday which looks to be smoothest stage. So finding proper setup for whole loop might be problematic. Today scrutineereing, without any special moments. Tomorrow shakedown from early morning. First WRC and priority drivers, then all rest.

[Jafry]

Footbal in service in Poland HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1277

[dimviii]

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[Eli]

http://www.rally.it/wrc-polonia-accorciate-per-maltempo-due-delle-quattro-prove-disputate-in-lituania/

[bluuford]

Shakedown should start dry and rain should appear between 10 and 11 and continue more or less until te evening (5-6)

[rage82]

Some provisional times after 1-st run:
1 @MadsOstberg 2:04.7
2 Mikkelsen +0.4
3 @krismeeke +0.5
4 Kubica +1.0
5 Ogier +1.3
6 Latvala +2.3
7 Evans +2.8...

[Criterium]

Just a light techical trouble on RallyVista. Here is the direct link to Rally Poland:
http://www.interactiveinfluence.com/techali/rallyvista/rally/polski14.html?target=polski14

http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/15/38/23/21/presrv11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1092&u=15382321)

[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

POLAND Mikkelsen fastest so far in Shakedown 1:59.9 Ogier 2:00.1 Meeke 2:01.7 Østberg 2:01.8 Neuville 2:01.9 Latvala 2:02.0 Kubica 2:02.1

[thuGG]

http://kibicrajdowy.pl/files/shakedown456.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Live stream is already on
http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[bluuford]

Looks like the rain is going to stay away from the shakedown and it will appear more eastward. Very-high possibility that today stages will stay dry as well :-)

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4Jrd_KJSfNc

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[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRywNt4KesQ

[makinen_fan]

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[dimviii]

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[dimviii]

shakedown photos from borl
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/14488672466/

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10409214_758030930907287_6618973573463321106_n.jpg

more
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.758030880907292.1073741874.101005866609800&type=1

[Jafry]

More photos from shake HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1277

[dimviii]

watch out guys

Colin Clark @voiceofrally · 18 λεπ.
Anyone heading out to stages in Poland this afternoon, the main road from Mikolajki to Orzysz is closed by an accident 6kms out of Mikolajki

[MartijnS]

Really like the shots so far, looks like to be a great rally again.

[Juha_Koo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4Jrd_KJSfNc

I was spectating the shakedown there, really great crest-corner combination with high speed! Paddon had really wide and attack-ious line, but nearly everyone had great slide angle over that crest, most impressive ones among Paddon were Ogier, JML, Neuville, Henning and Holowczyc. To my eye Citroens were really calm, as were Fiestas too. Hyundais seemed to have some tendency to oversteer but nothing big, could be down to driving style too.

Next up for me after coffee break is SS2 Kruklanki, I've chosen an interesting long left over crest with a very high-speed entry and blank backdrop with no visual cues, lets see who has the best notes. :)

PS. To my ear DS3 R5 sounds awesome!

One quick shot from SD junction when I was leaving:

[eib1]

WRC2 SD times
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrDI0msCIAAXCLw.png

[br21]

as for now quite nice weather, sunny, with some wind. crews heading for ceremonial start and then 3 stages (incl. sss).

[bluuford]

as for now quite nice weather, sunny, with some wind. crews heading for ceremonial start and then 3 stages (incl. sss).
Yes, initial forecast failed completely. Currently it looks like there will be no significant rain until Saturay evening (I do not have longer reliable prediction). There is very high rain risk on Lithuanian stages today in the evening and tonight but I hope it will not be too bad. Sky looks really black in some places.

[Mirek]

3-2-1 start :)

[makinen_fan]

Can anyone access the splits on Citroen website?

[PLuto]

Start list to first leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/lotos-rally-poland-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=459

[dimviii]

Latvala almost 1sec/km slower at 2nd split

[dimviii]

Can anyone access the splits on Citroen website?

i tried but didn t find it.Pitty they were faster than official site.

[dimviii]

Ogiers average was 126.43!

[dimviii]

splits are not working=we will do shoot out.

[focus206]

Ogier already so much faster than JML

[dimviii]

TYRE NEWS All WRC Michelin drivers on 5 soft Latitude Cross tyres

[eib1]

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7416&typf=split&idEpr=SS1
working well

[dimviii]

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7416&typf=split&idEpr=SS1
working well

thanks! 1 beer.

[dimviii]

Paddon 7:05.9 with noisy front end: "I think it's just the sump guard - no diff rattle anyway" @HaydenPaddon #WRC

[dimviii]

Tanak at the end of the stage must be very near of Rendina.Hopefully not so much dust.

[jonkka]

Why JML is first on the road?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Poor start by the Finns.. :(

Better by Meeke & Kubica. :)

[dimviii]

Ogier is first on the road.

[jonkka]

Ogier is first on the road.

On wrc.com splits for SS2, it's Latvala first Ogier second. Glitch or explanation?

[dimviii]

wow Latvala +5,6 at 1st split.

[jonkka]

And now it's Ogier - Ostberg - Latvala? WTF is going on...

[dimviii]

On wrc.com splits for SS2, it's Latvala first Ogier second. Glitch or explanation?

use citroen splits,faster by far.

[jonkka]

And back to normal... wrc.com computers are f*ed up.

[dimviii]

http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7416&idEpr=SS2&typf=split&car=1

[jonkka]

use citroen splits,faster by far.

Those are not official, faster they may be.

[mousti]

Fuchs didn't start in Sardegna because the Fiesta R5 has engine problems, now after one stage in Polski he has engine problems again..

[dimviii]

(32 - Kruuda Karl / Järveoja Martin): went through stage in road mode, changed pop-off valve before stage


again problems for 208?

[makinen_fan]

Those are not official, faster they may be.
do you trust more the wrc website??? :confused:

[dimviii]

Those are not official, faster they may be.

what do you mean ''they are not official?'' from the same provider dont they receive as official site?

[jonkka]

do you trust more the wrc website??? :confused:

When it comes down to publishable info, it's FIA first, WRC.com second, rally organisers third and no other source qualifies (results-wise).

[makinen_fan]

this will destroy Latvala's confidence

[makinen_fan]

When it comes down to publishable info, it's FIA first, WRC.com second, rally organisers third and no other source qualifies (results-wise).

personally wrc.com is the last website to trust

[dimviii]

Latvala loses 9.2 in the stage, now 20.8 behind" I am not happy with the car...the braking...need to do something.. lost quite a lot of time

[makinen_fan]

also said he was under a lot of pressure because of his 2009 crash...

and now Mikkelsen leads!

[jonkka]

That's surely only temporary

[N.O.T]

VW chose a smart way to end the battle fort he championship prematurely... not good for the sport though.

[JTGANG]

Where is Bouffier ????

[dimviii]

Where is Bouffier ????

late start number,and very slow at 1st stage

[jarauto2]

7:23 :D 3. in WRC2

[Eli]

Robert Kubica Rolled, fortunately he was able to continue and he didn't lose too much time.

[makinen_fan]

Kubica rolled but lost only 27s!

[dimviii]

Juho fastest

[dimviii]

(35 - Ketomaa Jari / Lindström Kaj): I hit the rock on the road, we have damaged rear of our car. It was in place where there are no other rocks, I am sure it must be there from spectators. Marshalls should be more precise to check it.

[N.O.T]

(35 - Ketomaa Jari / Lindström Kaj): I hit the rock on the road, we have damaged rear of our car. It was in place where there are no other rocks, I am sure it must be there from spectators. Marshalls should be more precise to check it.

There is a scientific term for this.... it is called the "Latvala Syndrome"

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEZLOzCcAAdxgW.jpg:large

[AMSS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEZLOzCcAAdxgW.jpg:large

Prokop fastest Ford after ss2. All Fords really slow and especially Mikko much slower than usually. Also J-M disappointing

[Mirek]

When it comes down to publishable info, it's FIA first, WRC.com second, rally organisers third and no other source qualifies (results-wise).

There's no problem with unofficial sources if they are correct. It's only splits, not final results so I don't mind using any fast source.


Kubica rolled but lost only 27s!

That came faster than I thought!


Juho fastest

Fingers crossed!


Prokop fastest Ford after ss2. All Fords really slow and especially Mikko much slower than usually. Also J-M disappointing

This is pure WTF stuff. What is wrong with M-Sport?

[jarauto2]

Kubica's roll
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=664076143674084

[bluuford]

This is pure WTF stuff. What is wrong with M-Sport?
maybe tactics? want to be first on the road?

[rage82]

Here's link for the live webcast on ss3: http://cricfree.eu/live/watch/world_rally_racing_poland/44265

[makinen_fan]

is there service before ss3???

mechanics work on Kubica's car
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEva2YIMAImGS4.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crazy dust and low sun on the SSS...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrE53KICIAEui1r.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML lays the ghost of 2009 on this SSS .. fastest so far. :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier trounces everyone by 2.7s !!

[Juha_Koo]

Mikkelsen SS2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5wRYucfk_0

[bluuford]

Ogier trounces everyone by 2.7s !!
Ogier had clearly the best conditions. Sun was already gone an he was on the right lane + best road position. Anyway, very stupid timing of the stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shocking Day 1 performance by M-Sport Ford, best placed driver 9th ... :ohplease:

[Aquagen]

And what happens with Gorban on the SS3 ? 13:56.6 +12:08.2

[mousti]

is there service before ss3???

mechanics work on Kubica's car
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrEva2YIMAImGS4.jpg
Don't know but for cracked front window there could be exception..

Sent from my HTC Desire X using Tapatalk 2

[PLuto]

Yes, in parc ferme you can change from windscreen.

[PLuto]

And what happens with Gorban on the SS3 ? 13:56.6 +12:08.2

He has normally 1:56.6 (http://rally-base.com/2014/lotos-rally-poland-2014/?ssId=2429)

[dimviii]

nice jumps photos

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/with/14511065401/

[GigiGalliNo1]

When it comes down to publishable info, it's FIA first, WRC.com second, rally organisers third and no other source qualifies (results-wise).

iRally is a very trusted source

[dimviii]

Good morning guys.

TYRE NEWS All WRC Michelin drivers on 5 soft Latitude Cross @rajdpolski @michelin_sport #WRC

[Tauri_J]

Good morning.

anyone knows the starting lists for today?

[Criterium]

Lithuanian day on RallyVista and soon a big surprise !
http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/15/38/23/21/prespo10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=1094&u=15382321)

http://www.interactiveinfluence.com/techali/rallyvista/

(the site runs without any trouble again)

[makinen_fan]

Good morning guys! I hope for a fightback from Latvala and something better from M sport


Good morning.

anyone knows the starting lists for today?

Same as yesterday, http://rally-base.com/2014/lotos-rally-poland-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=460

[Mirek]

Can somebody send a way to get to splits on wrc.com? I have a feeling that I get there somehow accidentally every time. I can't see any direct link to it on homepage. How shall it be done?

[jonkka]

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/results/poland/split-times/page/367-232-8--.html

[dimviii]

seems that Latvala today find his pace.

[Franky]

Can somebody send a way to get to splits on wrc.com? I have a feeling that I get there somehow accidentally every time. I can't see any direct link to it on homepage. How shall it be done?

I'd say Citroen splits are better, more in real time - http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=7416&idEpr=SS4&typf=split&car=1

WRC.com splits are up to four minutes behind sometimes.

[N.O.T]

Can somebody send a way to get to splits on wrc.com? I have a feeling that I get there somehow accidentally every time. I can't see any direct link to it on homepage. How shall it be done?

on the main page click on results, then on the flag of the rally that is in the green border, you can then see a grey bar appearing with results, split times ects.

[jonkka]

That they are late is almost meaningless (compare it to a light from dead star), the fact that they are too often missing splits is more important in my view.

[dimviii]

on the main page click on results, then on the flag of the rally that is in the green border, you can then see a grey bar appearing with results, split times ects.

its easier to click at main page ''live'' and then ''splits''.

[N.O.T]

Mikkelsen on top again... Latvala 0.1 faster than Ogier.

[N.O.T]

133 km/hr average speed on this one...

[jonkka]

its easier to click at main page ''live'' and then ''splits''.

That way you get the stupid banner on the top. You can get rid of that by opening splits -link to a new tab / window but still.

[jarauto2]

av. speed 133,2 km/h :)

[Franky]

That they are late is almost meaningless (compare it to a light from dead star), the fact that they are too often missing splits is more important in my view.

For me it's just annoying to hear driver at the stage end and on the splits page he still doesn't have time on the penultimate split, not to mention anything about the stage time.

If the splits are that much late, then missing splits aren't that big of an issue. If they'd be on time, then it's another story, in my opinion.

[Mirek]

on the main page click on results, then on the flag of the rally that is in the green border, you can then see a grey bar appearing with results, split times ects.


its easier to click at main page ''live'' and then ''splits''.

Thanks to both. Both ways aren't really easy to find for somebody who hasn't done it ten times before. I was asking specifically if there is some easy and first sight visible way and sadly I can see there isn't. For em this is another issue with wrc.com. It looks nice but some important stuff like this is quite well hidden...

[jonkka]

For me it's just annoying to hear driver at the stage end and on the splits page he still doesn't have time on the penultimate split, not to mention anything about the stage time.

To hear the end of the stage driver interviews, you gotta tune in for WRR and that I quit a long time ago.

[jonkka]

Besides, you get the same info from
http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_text.html

[dimviii]

Besides, you get the same info from
http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_text.html

a little bit faster
https://twitter.com/Official_iRally

[jonkka]

Social media (Twitter, Facebook) is out of bounds for me.

[jonkka]

Paddon fastest at split 1? :eek:

[Francis44]

The Hyundai's starting to be fast, let's hope they hold.

[dimviii]

seems that clean road played a role there for backstarters

[jonkka]

They won't but it's refreshing for a change... :D

[jonkka]

And long wait for the next one over the border...

[dimviii]

And long wait for the next one over the border...

2 hours 15 minutes from stage 4 -> 5
3 1/2 hours from ss8 -> 9

this is a bit better than shoot out.

[dimviii]

Karl Kruuda is first through but it seems that yesterday's pop-off valve problems have not been solved. "It's a nice wake up call but we didn't manage to fix the problem. We only did some changes in the mapping and there is some misfiring in the engine," he said.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark @voiceofrally · 1 λεπ.
Stunning time for @haydonpaddon through opening stage of the morning. Car dropping oil though from front right.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrHwy9pIQAA8gFV.jpg:large

[dimviii]

NEWS Drivers warned against cutting http://www.irallylive.com & iRally Apps @rajdpolski #wrcog2014

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrHx1sQCMAAu0UB.jpg:large

[jonkka]

So going off is also a breach of Art 14.2? :grin:

[dimviii]

2 hours 15 minutes from stage 4 -> 5
3 1/2 hours from ss8 -> 9

this is a bit better than shoot out.

That means the start time has been put back by 18 minutes to 11.43. So we'll allow you to take a break, and put the coffee pot on. Mine's with two sugars please!

http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_text.html

[makinen_fan]

NEWS Drivers warned against cutting http://www.irallylive.com & iRally Apps @rajdpolski #wrcog2014



What do they really mean about this??? :eek:
Never heard before that corner cutting is against regulations

[AndyRAC]

I know they are clamping down on this in circuits - but this is ridiculous..... As if the sport doesn't have bigger issues......

[JTGANG]

4 R2 in the same second !!!! Amazing fight....As also in the R3T

[arko5]

Hirvonen so slow...

[makinen_fan]

What is wrong with Mikko??? He is the most experienced wrc driver at the moment and blames the notes...

[Eli]

What is wrong with Mikko??? He is the most experienced wrc driver at the moment and blames the notes...

it looks like the fire from last time has took out his fire and will...

[Hartusvuori]

What do they really mean about this??? :eek:
Never heard before that corner cutting is against regulations

"More than two wheels outside its limits". I think is not against cutting, but more so against when cutting turns into short cutting. Last year in Rally Finland, SS Painaa 1, one of the last corners (left) had a grass area on the inside of the corner and few top drivers drove over it, cutting the corner. For the second run of the stage (Ppowerstage) a stewards' communication was issued that prohibited such action.

[jonkka]

Drivers are already complaining about the ruts. I wonder how bad it'll be on second run... will it again be carnage stage?

[Eli]

is the next stage live on BT Sport or something?

[MartijnS]

Probably due to this kind of cutting. https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?v=724314050960031

[makinen_fan]

is the next stage live on BT Sport or something?

this says that it is live http://www.locatetv.com/uk/listings/bt-sport-2-hd
but they show the repeat from yesterday

[Lundefaret]

In regards to cutting: In contrast to racing, rallying takes place on public and private roads. The destruction of the roads, and the surroundings, can lead to the owners of the roads, the farm fields etc, refusing to lend out the roads to our sport. Tires with to much friction, and cutting is two "probems" in this matter.
In Sweden they are already developing a gravel tire that is to cause less wear on the roads.

[bluuford]

Probably due to this kind of cutting. https://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?v=724314050960031

That was a stupid cut... I guess it was not planned and it was drivers mistake. First time I can see someone cuting across the potato field..

[Mirek]

In regards to cutting: In contrast to racing, rallying takes place on public and private roads. The destruction of the roads, and the surroundings, can lead to the owners of the roads, the farm fields etc, refusing to lend out the roads to our sport. Tires with to much friction, and cutting is two "probems" in this matter.

True. Here in my country organizers have to place a lot of anti-cutting obstacles purely because without them there would be no permission to run those stages. On the other hand we used to have here some crazy cuts like 10 meters far from the road...

[Langdale Forest]

There has been a clamp down in corner cutting in BTCC, but it seems a bit unnecessary in WRC (within reason).

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrISqxRCQAAWnLN.jpg:large

[Langdale Forest]

Potato peeling Mikkelsen.

[dimviii]

FRI 12:45 - SS6: LATVALA CONCEDES VICTORY
Jari-Matti drops more than 4sec to his team-mate. "It's not the best feeling. I don't have a fighting spirit for the victory any more. Now we have to see what we can do and see what the highest position is that we can achieve. We have to have a target of the top five," he said. Interesting thoughts from the Finn, who is now 29.4sec behind Ogier

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10372509_10152165276420754_7331477089976407539_n.j pg

[EightGear]

The ruts are destroying the fight at the front unfortunately...

[Eli]

too many ruts, dangerous situation...and that opens the door for Ogier...

[Jeppe]

The ruts are destroying the fight at the front unfortunately...

And what comes to 2wd fight - it´ll be devastating. There won´t be happy faces after the 2nd round of stages....

[EightGear]

And what comes to 2wd fight - it´ll be devastating. There won´t be happy faces after the 2nd round of stages....

Indeed. I already didn't get the point of running stages in Lithuania, but now I really don't understand..

[dimviii]

all crews said about destroyed road.What will happen at 2nd loop?

[Eli]

a lot of retirements, that's what will happen