[ERC] Acropolis Rally 2014

[tolis]

All set, 2014 Acropolis Rally itinerary and supplementary regulations will be published tomorrow at www.acropolisrally.gr (http://www.acropolisrally.gr)

[makinen_fan]

Itinerary is out

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/q71/s720x720/1618464_718786951478983_456149374_n.jpg

https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1/q71/s720x720/1798448_718787268145618_212082935_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/q71/s720x720/1560449_718787241478954_1144098821_n.jpg

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/q71/s720x720/1011023_718787144812297_1403461646_n.jpg

[juergen]

Does anybody know something about how much gravel or asphalt are on the stages in %?

[N.O.T]

1st day tarmac only 2nd day gravel only.

[N.O.T]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkx7Y4vg03s

a very nice incar from agios ioannis (ss1/4) from 2012.

[tolis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkx7Y4vg03s

a very nice incar from agios ioannis (ss1/4) from 2012.
No, it's not the same stage NOT.

[N.O.T]

no ? pity...

[pathan]

All three tarmac stages of the rally are new and have never been used in the past.
The gravel stages are very carefully chosen to avoid problems with possible showers or snow, due to the early date of the event. All three of them have been used in the WRC event in the last four years and are very 'soft' for Acropolis Rally standards.

[mousti]

Peugeot Sport Twitter confirms that Breen-Abbring will drive with the 208. Homologation of 208 seems to be okay now for 1st of March I guess that will be the same for the DS3.

[RS]

Peugeot Sport Twitter confirms that Breen-Abbring will drive with the 208. Homologation of 208 seems to be okay now for 1st of March I guess that will be the same for the DS3.

Cool, hoping to see some videos of the final version testing soon!

[tolis]

So, Breen (Peugeot 208 R5), Abbring (Peugeot 208 R5) and Serderidis (Ford Fiesta R5) the confirmed drivers so far. Any more? Skoda Official?

[dimviii]

Tolis did you received my pm? :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

So, Breen (Peugeot 208 R5), Abbring (Peugeot 208 R5) and Serderidis (Ford Fiesta R5) the confirmed drivers so far. Any more? Skoda Official?

Gryazhin confirmed today he would start in Acropolis. I think (not know) that works Škoda, Tarabus, Orsák, Hudec and Tlus?ák will come too.

Frankly... I think almost everybody interested in ERC will be there ;)

[Mintexmemory]

A shame I'm booked for a trip to Amsterdam that weekend, it looks like being one of the events of the year!

[Mihai]

Kubica won the Acropolis Rally in WRC-2 last year. I bet he would want to double up his points tally in the ERC by adding another win this year. Although I can suspect a date clash: Acropolis (ends on March 30) is a bit too close to Rally Portugal (starts on April 3rd). I know that RK used the same car (albeit in different specs) in Janner Rallye and in Monte, but I doubt it's possible with Acropolis and Portugal. Knowing his busy schedule for the last couple of years, I guess Kubica wouldn't mind to drive one rally after another with hardly any single day off if we take into account recce & stuff.

[tolis]

Kubica won the Acropolis Rally in WRC-2 last year. I bet he would want to double up his points tally in the ERC by adding another win this year. Although I can suspect a date clash: Acropolis (ends on March 30) is a bit too close to Rally Portugal (starts on April 3rd). I know that RK used the same car (albeit in different specs) in Janner Rallye and in Monte, but I doubt it's possible with Acropolis and Portugal. Knowing his busy schedule for the last couple of years, I guess Kubica wouldn't mind to drive one rally after another with hardly any single day off if we take into account recce & stuff.
No, it's difficult... He has also (maybe) Rally Sprint Fafe to do.

So far, possible entries:

Craig Breen (Peugeot 208 R5)
Kevin Abbring (Peugeot 208 R5)
Jourdan Serderidis (Ford Fiesta R5)
Vasiliy Gryazin (Ford Fiesta S2000)
Giacomo Costenaro (Peugeot 207 S2000)
Esapekka Lappi (Skoda Fabia S2000) ?
Sepp Wiegand (Skoda Fabia S2000) ?
Antonin Tlustak (Skoda Fabia S2000) ?
Jaromir Tarabus (Skoda Fabia S2000) ?
Robert Consani (Peugeot 207 S2000) ?
Oleksiy Tamrazov (Ford Fiesta S2000) ?
Vitaliy Pushkar (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X) ?
Ekaterina Stratieva ?
Lukasz Kabacinski (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX)

R2-R3
Simone Tempestini (Citroen DS3 R3T)
??????? ????????? (R3)
Todor Slavov ?

[Neige]

Also possible entrant lithuanian M.Samuitis with Evo X R4

[dimviii]

nice avatar Neige! have you got this photo in bigger size? if so please upload it here
viewtopic.php?f=98&t=140288&start=80 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=140288&start=80)

[V.Gatev]

Todor Slavov or Miroslav Angelov with Clio R3 of Slavov.

[makinen_fan]

nice avatar Neige! have you got this photo in bigger size? if so please upload it here
viewtopic.php?f=98&t=140288&start=80 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=140288&start=80)

Look at the picture thread Dim, I added it there for you

[dimviii]

?????????! ;)

[RS]

Bruno Magalhaes - 207 S2000.

[tolis]

Nasser Al-Attiyah will do Acropolis Rally! He will also do Cyprus that is part of MERC.
http://biser3a.com/rally/nasser-al-atti ... -and-more/ (http://biser3a.com/rally/nasser-al-attiyah-i-will-be-participating-in-merc-erc-hail-rally-and-more/)

[tolis]

According to the organisers, a Citroen DS3 RRC entered the rally. I imagine it's Bouffier. Provisional Entry list will be uploaded next Friday the 21st.

[Motorsportfun]

According to the organisers, a Citroen DS3 RRC entered the rally. I imagine it's Bouffier. Provisional Entry list will be uploaded next Friday the 21st.

Interesting.

I'm curious about Nasser, it should be his first rally after 2013 season...

[RICARDO75]

According to the organisers, a Citroen DS3 RRC entered the rally. I imagine it's Bouffier. Provisional Entry list will be uploaded next Friday the 21st.

Interesting.

I'm curious about Nasser, it should be his first rally after 2013 season...


Before Acropolis he will do the Qatar International Rally, on February 22 and the Kuwait International Rally, on March 22

[Barreis]

He did Dakar...;)

[Motorsportfun]

He did Dakar...;)

I know, but the Dakar isn't what you could call traditional "rallying"... :D

[ckouzionis]

more news today evening about the entries!!!

[tolis]

more news today evening about the entries!!!
http://www.acropolisrally.gr/GR/2014/ev ... list-2014/ (http://www.acropolisrally.gr/GR/2014/event-2014/entry-list-2014/)

Grean entries so far!

[RICARDO75]

more news today evening about the entries!!!
http://www.acropolisrally.gr/GR/2014/ev ... list-2014/ (http://www.acropolisrally.gr/GR/2014/event-2014/entry-list-2014/)

Grean entries so far!


Looking good so far.
Murat Bostanci in Fiesta S2000 will be fast.
No Bouffier in the DS3 RRC, just Simone Tempestini with DS3 R3T

[RICARDO75]

Soon on the entry list:
Craig Breen (IRL) Peugeot 208 T16
Kevin Abbring (NLD) Peugeot 208 T16
Nasser Al-Attiyah (QAT) Ford Fiesta RRC
Vasily Gryazin (RUS) Ford Fiesta S2000
Oleksii Tamrazov (UKR) Ford Fiesta S2000
?ukasz Kabaci?ski (POL) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX

[PLuto]

Are you sure about Alex Tamrazov?

[RICARDO75]

Are you sure about Alex Tamrazov?

No, I'm not sure. His name was on my notes and I don't remember the source.

[WUff1]

Third ERC-rally - third car for Simone Tempestini - this time with a DS3, testing for Portugl.

[dimviii]

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/ ... mplete.pdf (http://www.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/CMSFiles/2014/RALLY-GUIDE-complete.pdf)

[Tom206wrc]

Will there be more entries :confused:

[RS]

Will there be more entries :confused:

Loads of time yet :)

[fegh]

Nasser won Qatar int rally, but Abdelaziz al kuwari challenged him big time.

[V.Gatev]

Todor Slavov - Petar Iliev, Renault Clio R3

[tolis]

Heard that there are not many Greek entries who registered for ERC event. Many will do both days, but will not be registered for ERC. That's because of the helmets who are expired for ERC but not for GRC. :rolleyes:

[WUff1]

Same discussion in Austria, at Jänner Rallye also about tyre regulations of ERC - so many national starters didn´t start in ERC.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Will the FIA homologation process of the 208 be finalised until Acropolis starts.

[WUff1]

Will the FIA homologation process of the 208 be finalised until Acropolis starts.

Nobody really knows - Andreucci got only national homologation for Rally Il Ciocco.

[EightGear]

So today we will see the seeded entry list right? :)

[WRC1]

i am afraid we will see nothing today...in greece it´s already 22:00 nothing will happend today :mad:

[V.Gatev]

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/ ... he-FIA.pdf (http://www.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/CMSFiles/2014/ERC-ENTRIES_Approved-by-the-FIA.pdf)

[liposh]

Is there also some "national field entry list" ?

[RS]

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/userfiles/CMSFiles/2014/ERC-ENTRIES_Approved-by-the-FIA.pdf

Not bad. Good to see Bouffier there, 208 will also be interesting.

Lategan was not bad when he did Croatia (?) last year. Is he driving for BRR?

[Mirek]

National list is not yet released. It's sad that there are almost no Greeks on the ERC list :(

Gine, where are You?

[Andre Oliveira]

1 RRC
4 R5
11 S2000

Good drivers too

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t31.0-8/s720x720/1496059_474802962648951_1372042914_o.png

[hari]

Lategan was not bad when he did Croatia (?) last year. Is he driving for BRR?

Yes, Lategan is driving with BRR.

[Mirek]

1 RRC
4 R5
11 S2000

Good drivers too

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 2914_o.png (https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t31.0-8/s720x720/1496059_474802962648951_1372042914_o.png)

What is the point to post a picture of just part of the list when the whole list from original source was posted few minutes before?

[dimviii]

Gine, where are You?

he will compete with evo 9 n4 :bounce:

[Andre Oliveira]

1 RRC
4 R5
11 S2000

Good drivers too

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 2914_o.png (https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t31.0-8/s720x720/1496059_474802962648951_1372042914_o.png)

What is the point to post a picture of just part of the list when the whole list from original source was posted few minutes before?

Show the top cars and good drivers that i wrote in the beggining instead write all names one by one :)

[EightGear]

So no Al-Attiyah. Still a very strong list, Lategan is a fast driver as well so he's a nice addition.

[GINE]

I will not drive the rally. The sponsor were found too late to organise the entry as I would like it to be...
Next year maybe. But I will spectate and the entry list is very qualitative... Also formthe Greek Tarmac day, more than 50 entries are expected

[Mirek]

Thank You. Good luck for next year!

[Jarek Z]

Just 29 crews?! In Acropolis, one of the most famous rallies in the world? Is this a joke?

[Andre Oliveira]

Close date to Rally de Portugal

[dimviii]

I will not drive the rally. The sponsor were found too late to organise the entry as I would like it to be...
Next year maybe. But I will spectate and the entry list is very qualitative... Also formthe Greek Tarmac day, more than 50 entries are expected

pitty.. :(

[Mihai]

Just 29 crews?! In Acropolis, one of the most famous rallies in the world? Is this a joke?

Given the fact that the country is in economic free-fall, I imagine there isn't much sponsorship available for rallying in Greece. For crews or for organizers. I read that even the Vovos family got into legal trouble. This year's edition is scheduled earlier than its traditional mid-summer date, so perhaps many drivers still don't yet have sponsorship deals in place.

[tolis]

Just 29 crews?! In Acropolis, one of the most famous rallies in the world? Is this a joke?
I think it's almost the same situation in all ERC rallies, if you exclude the locals. Here, there aren't any locals with S2000 cars. The extra costs that you have to pay in order to be eligible for ERC (tyres maybe, fuel, helmets etc...) was an obstacle for many Greek drivers. However, many Greeks will do both days. We expect around 70+ entries on day 1 totally and around 50 in day 2 totally.

[Mirek]

Just 29 crews?! In Acropolis, one of the most famous rallies in the world? Is this a joke?

There are 27 foreign crews which is quite ok in my opinion. The problem is just 2 Greek crews on the FIA list. Almost all Greeks are going to take part only in the national event.

[tolis]

Breen and Abbring will drive the 208 R5 at the Acropolis, according to the organisers! :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

All in all this is a good quality entrylist ;)

[tolis]

Day 1 entry list - national field - 46 more entries: http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=16608
Day 2 entry list - national field - 36 more entries: http://ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=16609

[nafpaktos]

Not even one top class car.really sad thing.i hope one day to reach the old good days when greeks had really good cars.

[PLuto]

I dont like this situation with ERC and national field. But this is big mistake of FIA and their "super cost-low" and "super-safety" regulations...

[Jarek Z]

I dont like this situation with ERC and national field. But this is big mistake of FIA and their "super cost-low" and "super-safety" regulations...

Whatever the reasons are (I have no idea), one thing is certain - this is idiotic and ruins this sport. Sometimes I wonder why people are still interested in rallying. FIA turned this sport into a joke.

[tolis]

Gryazin was testing on gravel today and our member "nafpaktos" had the chance to make a ride with Vasiliy! ;)

[gregwrc]

The first video for spectators from our recces fo ss Aghionori. The other two videos for SS Agios Ioannis & SS Psari are prepared ...stay tuned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVf0aKt3h4

[papar007]

The first video for spectators from our recces fo ss Aghionori. The other two videos for SS Agios Ioannis & SS Psari are prepared ...stay tuned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVf0aKt3h4

Great job as always!

[liposh]

Hmm, quite straight and fast. How many retarders do you think there will be? In Czech republic there would be at least 23 (each km one) because of safety :-D

[HaCo]

Is that tarmac?

[EightGear]

Is that tarmac?

Yes, day 1 will be on tarmac.

[A FONDO]

Yes, day 1 will be on tarmac.

with tarmac or gravel suspension?

[dimviii]

tarmac suspension

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHz2ud3AIkE&list=UUVd5MJUtUF6Q0vy-d9XOyMg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vofGBbpLGzk

[RS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vofGBbpLGzk

Fast roads.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxVwY0migf0

[gregwrc]

The first video for spectators from our recces fo ss Aghionori. The other two videos for SS Agios Ioannis & SS Psari are prepared ...stay tuned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVf0aKt3h4

an the others

Video Road Book s.s Agios Ioannis for Acropolis Rally 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcy3bD32ebQ

Video Road Book s.s Psari for Acropolis Rally 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NkjSbnb6xs


Have fun .... we can't wait !!!!!!!

[EightGear]

Any video yet of Peugeot's test?

[dimviii]

Any video yet of Peugeot's test?

they were very strict of videos and photos at their tests.

[EightGear]

they were very strict of videos and photos at their tests.

You won't get any beers.

[dimviii]

http://www.4tforum.gr/phpBB3/images/smilies/rant2.gif

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Qualifying on tarmac and day 1 on tarmac.. whats the point then ???

And rally starts on Sat not Fri ??

[Mirek]

Qualifying on tarmac and day 1 on tarmac.. whats the point then ???

And rally starts on Sat not Fri ??

Qualifying is mandatory for all ERC events regardless the surface. It's new FIA rule. Anyway if You think that starting position on tarmac doesn't mater You are wrong. On some events in some weather it plays little role but it can be often crucial.

Yes, the rally starts on Saturday.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What will the drivers base their decision on regards starting position.. the weather forecast ?

[Mirek]

Sure, the weather and the nature of the roads will decide but I would say on asphalt it's usually best to start first.

[RS]

they were very strict of videos and photos at their tests.

Why? lol.. we will see it for real in three days time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

True, especially if there's a good chance of dirt being dragged onto the road from cutting or mud if its wet..

Anyone know how it looks for the weekend ?

[RS]

Magalhaes livery:

http://autosport.pt/iv/1/70/959/sssssssss-ff73.jpg

[trifonvl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu22r-ewP0s

Skoda gravel test before Acropolis Rally

[EightGear]

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/5331f355520b2/5331f3554af69-1395782261135.jpg

[Mirek]

From FCB of Lappi... they tested even a drive on puncture.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/p720x720/1376469_290420074446635_1544585195_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/EsapekkaLappiOfficial/photos/a.235678993254077.1073741836.140095496145761/290420074446635/?type=1&relevant_count=1

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152295479539564&set=a.10150736428384564.417994.766569563&type=1&theater
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10003495_10152295479539564_1516234147_n.jpg

[dimviii]

From FCB of Lappi... they tested even a drive on puncture.


why they didnt loose the tyre valve?http://www.4tforum.gr/phpBB3/images/smilies/lol.gif

[mousti]

Engine broken by Bruno?

[tolis]

No! ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMDFSK6mN2s

[dimviii]

tolis any news about today tests?http://www.4tforum.gr/phpBB3/images/smilies/whistling.gif

[RAS007]

Just 29 crews?! In Acropolis, one of the most famous rallies in the world? Is this a joke?


Not even one top class car.really sad thing.i hope one day to reach the old good days when greeks had really good cars.

I am trying to remain upbeat, but looking at the entry list and itinerary, it is hard to disagree with the above comments; I could be wrong, but this appears to be the shortest Acropolis ever at 239km. It is basically 6 stages run twice with a 1km Super Special! There are local level events longer than that! The separation of the national entries from the ERC field, as some have already mentioned, does not help at all and appears to defeat the purpose of the "re-invented" ERC; as far as I can tell, participation in and/or winning this series is still as much a road to nowhere as it ever has been. I hope I am wrong and of course will be following along as always, but sometimes it is hard to see what is happening to the sport...

[RS]

participation in and/or winning this series is still as much a road to nowhere as it ever has been.

IMO it's better than recent pre-Eurosport ERC but still has some way to go to reach the level of IRC.

[Mirek]

It's new FIA rules which created this mess - specific ERC tyres and the end of homologation for most used helmets...

[tolis]

I am trying to remain upbeat, but looking at the entry list and itinerary, it is hard to disagree with the above comments; I could be wrong, but this appears to be the shortest Acropolis ever at 239km. It is basically 6 stages run twice with a 1km Super Special! There are local level events longer than that! The separation of the national entries from the ERC field, as some have already mentioned, does not help at all and appears to defeat the purpose of the "re-invented" ERC; as far as I can tell, participation in and/or winning this series is still as much a road to nowhere as it ever has been. I hope I am wrong and of course will be following along as always, but sometimes it is hard to see what is happening to the sport...

Shortest Acropolis? Sure, but it's ERC, not WRC, so the total kms are less. See for example the kms of the first 2 rounds.

@dimviii: Lappi was really flying in his Skoda, he will be very fast in gravel. Peugeot's did many passes on tarmac, not so many on gravel. Kajto was scaring fast and confident, Tarabus fast but more nervous than Kajto. Serderidis was trying to learn as much as possible. Delta Rally didn't do so many passes, Magalhaes's car caught fire, fortunately, not big damages.

Tarabus had a ride with Kajto and he said that this guy is crazy. GINE, Athanassoulas, had also this experience and couldn't speak for 10 minutes! :D He admitted that fortunately, I don't drive in the Acropolis Rally! :D

For greeks, a small article about the tests: http://www.r40.gr/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2658&Itemid=187

[dimviii]

thanks tolis!

[tolis]

thanks tolis!
Did u come at all?

[dimviii]

Did u come at all?

no i wasnt at tests,but i will go at the rally.

[liposh]

Shortest Acropolis? Sure, but it's ERC, not WRC, so the total kms are less. See for example the kms of the first 2 rounds.
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I agree, but it seems to me it could be even shorter and the organizers were just trying to make it longer by adding for example SS Aghionori.Maybe the stage won´t be finally so bad, but it definitelly doesn´t fit to the reputation of mythical Acropolis rally. What happened to all these nice gravel stages? Altogether it seems to me Rally Acropolis this year is weaker twin brother of Rally Cyprus. It should find its own place on sun, this is THAT FAMOUS Rally Acropolis.

[tolis]

I agree, but it seems to me it could be even shorter and the organizers were just trying to make it longer by adding for example SS Aghionori.Maybe the stage won´t be finally so bad, but it definitelly doesn´t fit to the reputation of mythical Acropolis rally. What happened to all these nice gravel stages? Altogether it seems to me Rally Acropolis this year is weaker twin brother of Rally Cyprus. It should find its own place on sun, this is THAT FAMOUS Rally Acropolis.
I agree that tarmac stages don't fit at the Acropolis Rally. However, I like the idea of the mixed rally for 1 year let's say.

[EightGear]

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/533305ab0ff0c/533305aaf1c6a-peugeot_acropolis.jpg

[Mirek]

I find strange that both Škoda and Peugeot use so plain and boring liveries in this season. Both had much better before (also the display Peugeot 208 R5 one).

[WUff1]

Yes, especially Peugot 208 livery is really boring - even compared to 207 livery.

[liposh]

IMHO Peugeot needs these 3 color stripes to continue also on front bumper.

[DIMI44]

I agree, but it seems to me it could be even shorter and the organizers were just trying to make it longer by adding for example SS Aghionori.Maybe the stage won´t be finally so bad, but it definitelly doesn´t fit to the reputation of mythical Acropolis rally. What happened to all these nice gravel stages? Altogether it seems to me Rally Acropolis this year is weaker twin brother of Rally Cyprus. It should find its own place on sun, this is THAT FAMOUS Rally Acropolis.
But if you see the (3x2) s.s. of Sunday you will recognize the real Acropolis Rally.....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

208 looks a bit better down on the ground ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjpFn68IIAAtZWS.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Recce quotes:

The leading drivers of the ERC rounded up their first day of recce. The program consisted of all special stages, where the FIA, ERC Priority and the RC2 class drivers did their reconnaissance on the asphalt stages as also on the QS, while all other drivers started their recce from the gravel special stages


1 BOUFFIER Bryan/PANSERI Xavier CITROEN DS3 RRC
"As you know, the stages are very fast and slippery. They will be good fun. The Super Special Stage is a bit strange, but if I set a good time in this, maybe I will like it!"

2 BREEN Craig/MARTIN Scott PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5
"The stages are very very difficult but mostly, very fast. We will be able to say more tomorrow about the whole rally."

3 LAPPI Esapekka/FERM Janne SKODA Fabia S2000
"Today we did recce in the asphalt stages of the rally. They are very fast. The morning was dump, so they were very slippery. We will see what happens. The Super Special Stage is good for the show."

4 KAJETANOWICZ Kajetan/BARAN Jaroslaw FORD Fiesta R5
"Difficult stages. Some parts are very fast and some others are very technical and difficult, but overall I like the stages. Write this please, I like the stages."

5 GRYAZIN Vasily/EREMEEV Dmitry FORD Fiesta S2000
"The stages are quite fast. The Super Special Stage is good for the show. In the tarmac stages, our car will be on the speed limit for a lot of time, which is not so good."

6 ABBRING Kevin/MARSHALL Sebastian PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5
"The stages are very fast and it is very difficult to judge the grip, as there are some places that look like there is no grip. I have previously participated only in Rally Monte Carlo in a 4WD car, so there will be many things to discover."

7 MAGALHAES Bruno/MAGALHAES Carlos
"The tarmac special stages are very fast. The surface is not so dirty, which is good but the stages are so fast, a little crazy."

8 WIEGAND Sepp/FRANK Christian SKODA Fabia S2000
"The stages are really nice and very fast. They are also very slippery, especially today that there was rain. We expect them to be very challenging. We are happy to be here and we are looking forward to the rally.

9 TARABUS Jaromir/TRUNKAT Daniel SKODA Fabia S2000
"As everyone must have noted, the tarmac stages are really fast, I think that in gravel everything will be better."

10 CONSANI Robert/LANDAIS Vincent PEUGEOT 207 S2000
"Today we did recce in the tarmac day of the rally. The stages are fantastic, except from the Super Special Stage which I didn't like."

14 SERDERIDIS Jourdan/MICLOTTE Frederic FORD Fiesta R5
"Very nice tarmac, that in some places looks similar to Monte Carlo. I'm very happy to be here."

151 KOPECKY Jan/DREXLER Pavel SKODA Fabia S2000
"We are here just for the recce. The first two tarmac stages are very slippery but also very fast. Nice stages."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BTW, Paolo Andreucci's 208 T16 looked much nicer didnt it ...

http://www.motorinolimits.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/208-T16-3-4-back.jpg

http://www.barberoeditorigroup.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Andreucci-208-T16-R5-Ciocco-2014.jpg

[RS]

Will be very interesting to see Bouffier vs. Lappi vs. Breen. vs Kajetanowicz all in different makes and types of car.

[Grant_RSA]

I am really looking forward to seeing how Henk Lategan does against all these big names, he raised some eyebrows in Croatia and a few other events last year.

[rage82]

Will be very interesting to see Bouffier vs. Lappi vs. Breen. vs Kajetanowicz all in different makes and types of car.
Looking also forward to see how quick Abbring will adapt to a new car as he's very fast driver and hope that can match the top guys especially on tarmac.

[Mintexmemory]

Abbring is great on Tarmac and also fine on gravel. I've seen him on both surfaces and I'm a fan. Now he's decided to change to English pace notes (previously Dutch / Flemish co drivers) it will be interesting to see how he copes. His english is very good and Seb Marshall is a very good co-driver so I think it could be an ideal partnership.

[Jarek Z]

BTW, Paolo Andreucci's 208 T16 looked much nicer didnt it ...

Of course it did! It is a classic rally livery, which also pays tribute to the victories of the past.
I can't believe how bad the Peugeot Rally Academy livery is. Did they make it in MS Paint 5 minutes before the cars were sent to Greece?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe it didnt get the full Peugeot look because its the Academy not a full 'works' car ...

[PLuto]

Dont forget to make a pickems! - http://www.motorsportforums.com/listpickem.php?series=erc&round=3

[makinen_fan]

posted by Breen now, looks like more colourful livery now

https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/q71/s720x720/10006099_10152357987732853_1327420939_o.jpg

[dimviii]

INFO AFTER RECCE27.3.2014

INFO AFTER RECCE

Date: 27 MARCH 2014
Day: 2

All of the ERC event participants concluded their recce program today. The FIA, ERC Priority and the RC2 class drivers did the reconnaissance of the gravel stages, while all other drivers continued the recce procedure with the asphalt special stages of the rally.

DRIVERS QUOTES

1 BOUFFIER Bryan/PANSERI Xavier CITROEN DS3 RRC
"The stages we saw today were quite rough, with many stones and definitely, not easy for the car. Despite that they are beautiful. I am looking forward to driving all these stages with a rally car."

2 BREEN Craig/MARTIN Scott PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5
"The gravel stages are very difficult, although they are in a good condition. Today's stages are quite nice."

3 LAPPI Esapekka/FERM Janne SKODA Fabia S2000
"The gravel stages are in a better condition than we expected. Of course they are rough but still, better than expected. I like them."

4 KAJETANOWICZ Kajetan/BARAN Jaroslaw FORD Fiesta R5
"The stages are very fast in some places. Of course this is the Acropolis, so they are also demanding and with a lot of stones. Sometimes the surface is very slippery and this is something we like. We definitely don't want to be first on the road in such conditions."

5 GRYAZIN Vasily/EREMEEV Dmitry FORD Fiesta S2000
"The stages we saw today are good, but I think that after 10-15 cars a lot of stones may come up. But this is fine, no problem."

6 ABBRING Kevin/MARSHALL Sebastian PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5
"Some parts are very difficult. Especially the downhill parts of the 2nd stage (Nea Kineta) are very fast. I enjoy this rally."

7 MAGALHAES Bruno/MAGALHAES Carlos PEUGEOT 207 S2000
"The stages are very nice and also very fast. The gravel ones are much better than I expected. It is my first time here, everyone says that this rally destroys the cars, but the organizers have done a good job. I like this rally a lot."

8 WIEGAND Sepp/FRANK Christian SKODA Fabia S2000
"The stages are nice. Sometimes they are not easy with the pacenotes, but for sure are fun to drive."

9 TARABUS Jaromir/TRUNKAT Daniel SKODA Fabia S2000
"The gravel stages are nice. They are a little fast, but I expected them in worse condition. We will see after the first passage if the road will be destroyed or not."

10 CONSANI Robert/LANDAIS Vincent PEUGEOT 207 S2000
"The road of the 3rd stage (Loutraki) was very broken, while the first two stages (Klenia-Mycenae, Nea Kineta) are very nice. In general, the stages of the rally are difficult but nice."

14 SERDERIDIS Jourdan/MICLOTTE Frederic FORD Fiesta R5
"The gravel stages are beautiful and technical. I mostly like the 3rd stage (Loutraki), because it is the most beautiful stage I have ever seen. The 2nd one (Nea Kineta) is hard for the car, very fast and entertaining. What else could we possibly want?"

16 LATEGAN Henk/WICHA Klaus SKODA Fabia S2000
"The gravel stages are also very nice. The first stage of the loop (Klenia-Mycenae) is more narrow and flowing. The following two are fast, wide, soft and will be a good fun. At the second loop, big rocks will come up."

151 KOPECKY Jan/DRESLER Pavel SKODA Fabia S2000
"Unfortunately we are doing only the recce as we will not participate in this rally. The gravel stages are fantastic. The roads are not as rough as in 2007, when I participated at the Acropolis Rally."

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/1538697_850129611670313_373549143_n.jpg

[RAS007]

Sorry if I missed this, but why did Kopecky do the recce if he is not doing the rally?

[mousti]

For the future I guess, maybe he's in the running to do ERC again when the Fabia R5 is out or who knows, only he and Skoda probably knows :p

[PLuto]

I think Jan will be back in ERC next year.

[DIMI44]

I think Jan will be back in ERC next year.


I hope not Acropolis.......

[RAS007]

I think Jan will be back in ERC next year.

What is he doing this year? How come no ERC?

[liposh]

DIMI44:Pardon? I don´t understand what You mean.

RAS007: Jan is doing APRC this year. Skoda needs Lappi to learn ERC and especially tarmac and also needs to fill this years Jan Kopecky programme until Jan Kopecky will be !probably! back in ERC with R5 in 2015.

[RAS007]

DIMI44:Pardon? I don´t understand what You mean.

RAS007: Jan is doing APRC this year. Skoda needs Lappi to learn ERC and especially tarmac and also needs to fill this years Jan Kopecky programme until Jan Kopecky will be !probably! back in ERC with R5 in 2015.

Ok, thanks. Regarding DIMI44, maybe he means he hopes the Acropolis is back in the WRC next year....

[Mirek]

Actually I don't think that Škoda "need to fill program" of Kopecký. In my opinion they just see more marketing value in making a fuss by changing faces in various championships.

[EightGear]

Shakedown times:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/53354ab090add/53354ab08b0fb-BjzldytIIAAZ76H.jpg

[Francis44]

Curious, both 208 faster out of the box.

[Mintexmemory]

Mmmm looks like the 208 is this year's Polo!! It will be interesting to see if there are team orders or if Kevin and Craig have equal status.

[liposh]

At least this shakedown track fits to P208 R5 T16 and they are one level above others there. I am not going to comment it until Sunday evening :-D

Qualifying and shakedown results here: http://www.acropolisrally.gr/EN/2014/event-2014/qualifying_results/

[Mintexmemory]

Super Kev fastest!

https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6052/5899970079_da4d12101a.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Abbring best time QS :bounce:

[WUff1]

And again both 208 R5 leading as before in the two practice runs - will be an interesting rally.

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t1.0-9/10155814_276638995830531_297473947_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t31.0-8/10010685_485920644867863_822441274_o.jpg

[Grant_RSA]

Why are there only times for 9 drivers?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Start order for leg 1:

1.Tarabus
2.Wiegand
3.Abbring
4.Breen
5.Lappi
6.Kajto
7.Bouffier
8.Magalhaes
9.Gryazin

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Peugeot Rally Academy team ready ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj0UoK-CMAELuA8.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wow... have far behind the times is Greece .. its 2014 y'know !! :D

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/photobank/seasons/2014/events/17_Greece/preview/big2/big2_AMBIANCE_019.JPG

[liposh]

Why are there only times for 9 drivers?
Because only 9 drivers had ERC priority and did qualification. I don´t know why. (What is the difference between Tarabus vs. Orsak and Tlustak?) For times of Henk Lategan ;-) and other drivers please visit: http://www.omae-epa-live.gr/GTCC/Times.pdf

[EightGear]

King Kevin :D

[A FONDO]

Curious, both 208 faster out of the box.

against who?

[Mirek]

I have to admit I was wrong with Peugeot livery as it was unfinished. Now it looks very nice!

[Mirek]

I put both groups together (the top) rounded to one tenth. Interesting that no priority driver made it among the priority ones (which somehow confirms the selection).

1. Abbring 1:45,0
2. Breen 1:45,6
3. Lappi 1:45,8
4. Kajetanowicz 1:45,9
5. Wiegand 1:46,1
6. Bouffier 1:46,2
7. Magalhaes 1:47,3
8. Gryazin 1:47,9
9. Tarabus 1:48,0
10. Consani 1:49,1
11-13. Orsák 1:51,0
11-13. Raoux 1:51,0
11-13. Costenaro 1:51,0
14. Lategan 1:53,5
15. Tlusťák 1:53,7

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bjzvm5AIIAAizuG.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjzYE_nIgAA60Ao.jpg:large

[Jarek Z]

I have to admit I was wrong with Peugeot livery as it was unfinished. Now it looks very nice!

I guess we jumped to conclusions too quickly! :)
I think it looks a little better now, but still doesn't come close to Andreucci's car.

[rage82]

Video from the shakedown and the qualification: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijP8K5_XmcQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Craig !! :bounce:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj0xpZ4IEAAwq4D.jpg:large

[WUff1]

I guess we jumped to conclusions too quickly! :)
I think it looks a little better now, but still doesn't come close to Andreucci's car.

I´m with you.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ceremonial start:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj08U1FCMAARp8e.jpg:large

[dimviii]

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/GR/2014/gallery-2014/photos-2014/2014_qualifying/

[dimviii]

1 BOUFFIER Bryan/PANSERI Xavier CITROEN DS3 RRC
"I am looking forward to start the Rally. We will make small changes in order to make the car better. I will do my best tomorrow."

2 BREEN Craig/MARTIN Scott PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5
"The tarmac stages are very fast. They are the fastest special stages I have ever seen. The gravel is also nice and in some places is rough and in some others fast. It's really interesting. We have prepared the car and I think it's going to be good."

3 LAPPI Esapekka/FERM Janne SKODA Fabia S2000
"Tomorrow tarmac stages are fast and quite smooth. I hope it will not rain, because it's going to be very slippery. The gravel condition is better than I thought. I expected it to be rougher, but I think that they are going to change at the second pass. My aim is to finish the rally and collect points."

4 KAJETANOWICZ Kajetan/BARAN Jaroslaw FORD Fiesta R5
"I like Acropolis Rally. I am happy to be here. It's completely different. We have two rallies in one. After the first day oin tarmac you have to change your mind and your driving approach. On tarmac some parts are fast, some technical and some places are very slippery. On gravel it is really fast."

5 GRYAZIN Vasily/EREMEEV Dmitry FORD Fiesta S2000
"I am not so happy about the QS. On tarmac we will try to get experience and on gravel I will push."

6 ABBRING Kevin/MARSHALL Sebastian PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5
"The free practice went O.K., but it is very difficult to make the right pace notes. I have to get used to the car in order to understand if the pace notes are correct. I am going to be a little bit slow tomorrow. But I think it's better, because I think it is important to reach the finish in order to collect data. I need to get in to rhythm again because it is my first tarmac event since 2012 in Monte Carlo I 4x4 car."

7 MAGALHAES Bruno/MAGALHAES Carlos PEUGEOT 207 S2000
"The special stages, especially the gravel, are fantastic. I prefer the gravel because tarmac is very, very fast. The qualifying stage was good and everything is O.K. I am trying new tyres. The turbo cars are the favorites to win."

8 WIEGAND Sepp/FRANK Christian SKODA Fabia S2000
"Tomorrow we start from second place and the fast guys are starting behind us. We think our decision is right. I like the Rally. Organizers did a great job. The gravel stages are not so rough as I expected them, thanks to the Organizers."

9 TARABUS Jaromir/TRUNKAT Daniel SKODA Fabia S2000
"First on the road. There will be no line, but we will see. Tomorrow it is important to finish in a good position, because of the starting position on Sunday. I enjoy the Rally so far, but I will be able to tell you more after the Rally."

10 CONSANI Robert/LANDAIS Vincent PEUGEOT 207 S2000
"I like the special stages on tarmac. They are fast and a little bit slippery. I really like the first special stage on gravel, but I don't like the stage Loutraki because there are a lot of stones. I want to finish this difficult rally in the top 10."

12 TLUSTAK Antonin / SKALOUD Jan SKODA Fabia S2000
"The Rally is very fast. Both on asphalt and gravel. I don't like this. I would prefer the stages to be less fast. Our target is to finish in the top-10."

14 SERDERIDIS Jourdan / MICLOTTE Frederic FORD Fiesta R5
"We had a very good shakedown. I have good feeling of the car. For sure our target is to finish. But most of all we want to increase our speed, stage by stage on tarmac. I feel better on gravel."

18 PUSHKAR Vitaliy / MISHYN Ivan MITSUBISHI Lancer EVO X
"The shakedown was good, we had no problems. Tomorrow on tarmac we will try to go flat out and on gravel we will try to save the car in stages 2 and 3."

19 TIBOR Erdi Jr. / TABORSZKI Attila MITSUBISHI Lancer EVO IX
"We target the Production category victory. It is our first Acropolis Rally and it is not so easy. Mixed surfaced Rally is something new for me. We will see."

23 ZOUNIS Ioannis / PATRIKOUSSIS Mihalis SUBARU Impreza WRX STi
"It's a very nice and clever Rally. I think that the gravel and also the tarmac stages are typical acropolis. The fans and the drivers are going to enjoy it. Our target is to drive the best way we can without problems. I can't wait for the gravel stages on Sunday."

24 BESSENYEY Zoltan / "YULIANNA" HONDA Civic Type-R
"We had the best 2WD time at the shakedown, but there are at least four extremely fast drivers. Our target is to win 2WD category. The weather is good. There are a lot of spectators and we are happy."

25 FILIP Alexandru / IANCU Bogdan RENAULT Clio R3
"The new ERC tyres are something new to me. I will take it step by step in order to adapt to the new grip. As a sportsman that I am, my target is the podium of the category."

30 KALTSOUNIS Haris / PERIDIS Andreas OPEL Corsa S1600
"It's a very nice and advanced level Rally. This year we are taking part for 41st time in Acropolis Rally. The stages are very nice, especially on gravel.

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDjCJdXLSoI

[tolis]

Dim, please comeeeeeee!

[A FONDO]

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/GR/2014/gallery-2014/photos-2014/2014_qualifying/

very good photos some of them, I have chosen a great one for avatar, shame the script makes it 50x33 :smash:

[dimviii]

Dim, please comeeeeeee!

i will not come if you dont tell us about the ride with the r5.
If you dont write at least 200 words you have a fine of 30 beers.

[tolis]

i will not come if you dont tell us about the ride with the r5.
If you dont write at least 200 words you have a fine of 30 beers.

Now it's rally time, after the rally! :)

[dimviii]

also another member from here had a ride with Gryazin,and he has an incar too.
20 beers for him too.http://www.4tforum.gr/phpBB3/images/smilies/devil.gif


dont be shy!!

[dimviii]

Now it's rally time, after the rally! :)

ok, i cut the fine at half.only 15 beers.Tomorrow morning i will be at stage 1 access 3 .
https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/1173844_10151985469885754_525805462_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/videos-rallye-grece-2014/

That shakedown section was incredibly fast :eek: :crazy:

[dimviii]

expect rain for tomorrow..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Like this one... great sound from the 208 on the downchanges ! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVgFP-0FCgc

[Motorsportfun]

i will not come if you dont tell us about the ride with the r5.
If you dont write at least 200 words you have a fine of 30 beers.

What? tolis had a free ride with the R5?

dimvii is wrong: fine is 50 Mythos beers! Xaxaxaxa

[Mirek]

Gine and Nafpaktos had some rides on tests ;)

[mousti]

Another video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9shMuJu0FLE&feature=youtu.be

[HarriK]

And SS1 running!

by the phone: Abbring 3sec ahead Lappi
weather, clowdy +15degrees

[Mirek]

Slow start for Lappi... let's see further.

[Tom206wrc]

Abbring :bounce:

[HaCo]

Peugeot far from perfect:

The car smells very hot... "After 3 kms in the stage, my display fell down.. Sometimes I did not see and I was way too early in 5th gear. I was quite happy with the car, but the back is sliding alot. It is not a good time." - Gear shift reader display is the display he was talking about, so he could not see which gear he was in.

[Mirek]

Bryan leading :) He didn't have any test before the event...

Is rally radio cutting so much for You too?

[HaCo]

Bouffier only little bit faster with RRC.

[hari]

Is rally radio cutting so much for You too?

Yes, it's quite bad to follow.

[trifonvl]

Same bad connection for me....

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffier :cool:

[Tom206wrc]

Peugeot far from perfect:


Youth problem...let's hope it'll be in order very soon :(

[Jafry]

Photos from shakedown HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1242

[EightGear]

Split times here:

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/EN/2014/event-2014/results-2014/

[WUff1]

Bouffier´s splits are missing ...

[Tom206wrc]

Split times here:

http://www.acropolisrally.gr/EN/2014/event-2014/results-2014/

Thanks :bounce:

[HaCo]

Bouffier looses a lot!

[HaCo]

As well as Wiegand, what a nice performance of him on SS1!

[HarriK]

Much better stage for Lappi now.
Bouffier problems?
edit: no. only wrong tyre choice

[HaCo]

Top3 = R5, not bad :-)

[Tom206wrc]

Consani lost a lot on split 1 :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

As well as Wiegand, what a nice performance of him on SS1!

Off road, stuck in ditch :(

[Mirek]

Much better stage for Lappi now.
Bouffier problems?
edit: no. only wrong tyre choice

Bouffier had a front puncture 4 km before stage end.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Peugeot 1-2 now after Bouffier lets them in. Good battle now.

[RS]

Impressive start by peugeot and especially abbring. I wonder whether these cars are good on the fast roads but not so good on the twisty bits yet. Anyhow definitely better start than expected, but I miss kopecky now!

[Tom206wrc]

Breen faster than Abbring by 1"7 split one SS3 ;)

Edit: more than 3" advantage for Breen split two :)

[HaCo]

Next stage live.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ARCHOS 80G9 met Tapatalk

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen flying on SS3 .. fastest time so far !

[Tom206wrc]

I can't believe Bouffier to be so quick in SS3 :eek:

Edit: mistake for him in 2nd split, because in end he's behind the 208 T16s :confused:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Split 2 cant be right. He has lost time now confirmed 3rd.

[Mirek]

Bouffier was off again. His car was covered by spectator tape.

[dominik_r]

He went straigt at hairpin after split 2

[Mirek]

If Costenaro and Tlusťák didn't swap now the whole group on 9-14th place would have same positions in standings as their starting numbers (plus Magalhaes on 7th) :D

[V.Gatev]

Slavov have oil leak after hitting a rock on the road. Now travelling to service park.

[nafpaktos]

Hi everyboby from the greek mountains.a few things that i noticed until now.there is no hope for a s2000 car to win stage in the tarmac leg.the cars are for a lot of hour to the rev limti,they travel with rev limit.i did not hear any peugeot to the red to the place where i am and its a place when you can hear the car for a lot of time.but i noticed something strange.kajetan's car was also to the rev limit as soon as skoda cars.i believe he uses short gearbox,otherwise the car (r5)could not reach the red so quickly.now i wait for the second loop

[Mirek]

Hi Nafpaktos, our member Br21 who is running Fiesta R5 told that the car has only one set of gears homologated and the top speed is 177 km/h. I don't know which gearbox Škodas are running but theoretically they can have top speed up to 184 km/h (they use that on Ypres and one leg of Barum). It's interesting that You say Peugeot gears are longer. If they also have only one set of gears than it might explain why Ucci was slower on twisty Italian roads. Theoretically shortest gearbox You shall see in car of Gryazin (165 km/h or so). Can You confirm?

[A FONDO]

Interesting.

If they want to homologate new ratios, will they need to spend a joker?

[Tom206wrc]

Game over for Wiegand :(

[Jarek Z]

Kajto says it is raining on SS4: "It was good, we have second time. There was raining and it's not good for us, we have hard tyres." But he manages to be second fastest. Abbring wins the stage.

[Tom206wrc]

SS5 running ;)

[RS]

Are R5 cars only allowed one set of ratios then? Or have they just not got round to preparing any others yet?

[Tom206wrc]

Abbring SS5 :confused:

[thetsakvr46]

I think he rolled the car!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Engine problem for Kevin :mad:

[RS]

Mechanical problem for Abbring. Leaking fluid.

Lappi says he has 170kmh top speed. Seems weird for these fast roads?

Shame for Abbring, but I think the win could be wide open between the top 4 now!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame..1st problem for the 208.

Hope Breen's car stays ok.

[Ucci]

Quite interesting morning in Greece, so far 208 R5 has won three stages, especially Abring (positively) surprised me. Game over for N/A cars,at least on this fast sections.
I hope Andreucci is closely monitoring results of Breen & Abring, as next week he is on a move again and it would be very frustrating to see him loosing fight against N/A opposition.

[WUff1]

According to fiaerc.com Abbring seems to having retired

[HarriK]

Mechanical problem for Abbring. Leaking fluid.

Lappi says he has 170kmh top speed. Seems weird for these fast roads?


Yes, that's true. Skoda has only about 170kmh top speed. R5 has around 200kmh

[mousti]

High water temperature for Abbring

[Mirek]

Yes, that's true. Skoda has only about 170kmh top speed. R5 has around 200kmh

No, Fiesta R5 has top speed 177 km/h as confirmed by its engineer here on forum. Only one set of gears homologated. Peugeot probably more as Nafpaktos reported rom stages but definitely not 200 km/h. It's only 5-speed box with max rpm 7500. It makes no sense to have so long gearbox. Škoda has various sets of gears homologated. It can have top speed over 180 km/h. Such long gearbox has been usually used in Ypres and in Otrokovice leg of Barum rally.

Meanwhile Todor Slavov, leader of 2WD, retired after an accident.

[Jarek Z]

Theoretically shortest gearbox You shall see in car of Gryazin (165 km/h or so). Can You confirm?

That should be right. Vasily Gryazin after SS5: "A lot of time on the limiter, about 3 kms. It's boring."

[V.Gatev]

Slavov retired after he hit the rocks around the road. The front of the Clio is very bad damage!

[WUff1]

Rallybase lists Abbring as retired now too.

[WUff1]

Bouffier flying on SS6

[Tom206wrc]

Bouffier on split 2 SS6 :eek:

[mousti]

But not the scratch, 1 second slower than Breen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen wins SS6 and leads after day 1. :)

Off to watch Fafe Sprint now :)

[RS]

Day 2 will be really interesting. 4 guys able to go for the win but on a different surface. I expect Lappi to do a lot better tomorrow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Converting to tarmac spec for the leader...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bj6NZHPIgAEB-EK.jpg:large

[br21]

Fiesta R5 as for now has only one set of gear ratios homologated and only one version of drop gears. Top speed is 177kmh. Don't know about 208 R5, but will try to ask. Fiesta S2000 had few versions of gear ratios and few drop gears, so many options possible, shortest was something around 165kmh and I think Gryazin uses it. We compared R5 with S2000 and R5 was faster in first 3 gears, then S2000 was equally quick, maybe even little bit quicker, but it's little bit off topic in Acropolis thread.
Abbring had engine coolant leak...

[EightGear]

Real shame about Abbring. I think he surprised a lot of people with his speed.

[MartijnS]

No superrally for Abbring.

[RS]

Fiesta R5 as for now has only one set of gear ratios homologated and only one version of drop gears. Top speed is 177kmh. Don't know about 208 R5, but will try to ask. Fiesta S2000 had few versions of gear ratios and few drop gears, so many options possible, shortest was something around 165kmh and I think Gryazin uses it. We compared R5 with S2000 and R5 was faster in first 3 gears, then S2000 was equally quick, maybe even little bit quicker, but it's little bit off topic in Acropolis thread.
Abbring had engine coolant leak...

Two questions:

- What are drop gears?
- Why have M-Sport only homologated one set of gear ratios? Lack of competition in R5 up till now made it unnecessary?

[RS]

Bumper cam on Abbrings car: http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/17/id/361/t/ERC-GREECE-POINT-OF-VIEW-OF-PEUGEOT-208T16-IN-SS1

[br21]

Two questions:

- What are drop gears?
- Why have M-Sport only homologated one set of gear ratios? Lack of competition in R5 up till now made it unnecessary?

1. With drop gears you can change "length" of whole gearbox keeping gear ratios the same. So using short drop you can have short box, using longer drop ratio you can have longer gearbox (higher max speed), but gear ratios remain the same. In S2000 you were able to change max speed around 20kmh changing drop gear.
2. You should ask Malcolm Wilson. I don't know detailed homologation requirements for R5, but I don't think it's a rule you can have only one set of gears and drop gears homologated. Current gear ratio are really OK, when you accelerate you can feel gear changes are smooth, car is smoothly accelerating so it's OK. But one or two additional drop gears would be nice to be able to change max speed for example.

[A FONDO]

eurosport 2 now, eurosport1 after 1:30 hrs

[nafpaktos]

@mirek confirmed

[Juha_Koo]

Bumper cam on Abbrings car: http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/17/id/361/t/ERC-GREECE-POINT-OF-VIEW-OF-PEUGEOT-208T16-IN-SS1

One of the most interesting pacenotes I've heard for a long time! I don't get the logic, "sixty" is a hairpin (slow corner) but so is "twelve" or "thirteen"...? Funny to hear "a fond" in English notes.

[nafpaktos]

One of the most interesting pacenotes I've heard for a long time! I don't get the logic, "sixty" is a hairpin (slow corner) but so is "twelve" or "thirteen"...? Funny to hear "a fond" in English notes.
Really strange.what kind of system is this?

[RS]

Footage from SS1, 2 and 3. The 208 seems to be much more entertaining to watch and listen to than the Fiesta: http://www.fiaerc.com/videogallery/detail/id_event/17/id/366/t/ERC-GREECE-SS1-SS2-SS3-HIGHLIGHTS

[toras]

Kajetan Kajetanowicz - leg 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73VvSVQEQKo

[nafpaktos]

Starting order for tomorrow?

[RS]

Starting order for tomorrow?

http://d3jw5gs1mh13h6.cloudfront.net/uploads/files/eventdetail/17/fia_erc_2014_acropolis_rally_leg_two_start_list.pd f

[RAS007]

One of the most interesting pacenotes I've heard for a long time! I don't get the logic, "sixty" is a hairpin (slow corner) but so is "twelve" or "thirteen"...? Funny to hear "a fond" in English notes.

Agreed! Very strange system; any idea why they are using "a fond"?

[tommeke_B]

"à fond" is just the same as "flat out". It's used in French and Flemish pacenotes. Abbring has picked up some things from driving with Belgian codrivers, including the use of "à fond" in his notes. Quite funny that he prefers it over "flat out", while all other things are English. :)

[N.O.T]

Very few spectators, that is a pity.... and as usual classic Greek spectator nobody mentality all of them at hairpins...