Rally Finland 2014

[makinen_fan]

Prokop not starting today. Are there any vid/photos of the damaged car?

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen really fast on split one SS14...I Wonder how Östberg and Mikkelsen will react :confused:

[wwbroe]

Goor morning guys. Seems like Jari Matti is up to good start again today, taking first besttime of the day.

[jonkka]

Yeah, that pretty much settles the rally in his lap - unless some traditional JML drama enters the stage.

[makinen_fan]

Good start from Jari Matti

[noel157]

Still not much in it, long way to go.

[Mirek]

Hello guys, sorry for not-working rally-base for last hour. That was my mistake...

[Mirek]

Prokop not starting today. Are there any vid/photos of the damaged car?

https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10270496_737602256296664_3966553438187895724_n.jpg

[Miika]

To catch +24.6 here demands a proper blunder from Jari-Matti, otherwise it is a no-go (with Seb risking and making small mistakes on the way).

[wwbroe]

Hello guys, sorry for not-working rally-base for last hour. That was my mistake...

How come it was your fault?

[jonkka]

Overslept? :)

[Mirek]

How come it was your fault?


Overslept? :)

Exactly. Too early for me :)

[noel157]

Hung over? : )

[Tom206wrc]

Nice first split SS15 for Östberg :)

[jonkka]

Exactly. Too early for me :)

I am getting old, only six hours of sleep this night but I am not even tired...

[rage82]

Mads trying hard to catch that 4- th place

[noel157]

Why did Henning say "Very very nice...I try what I can...3 stages to go: we will see" Has he a problem?

[Tom206wrc]

Mads trying hard to catch that 4- th place


In fact he tries not to lose place to Hirvonen ;)

[jonkka]

Why did Henning say "Very very nice...I try what I can...3 stages to go: we will see" Has he a problem?

No problem reported, afaik

[arko5]

Latvala quickest :)

[makinen_fan]

Look at the HUGE rock
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/neste_oil_rally_finland_2014/tkl_20140731-07210998_1.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/neste_oil_rally_finland_2014/tkl_20140731-07213500_1.jpg

[litifeta]

Let's see if Latvala will choke, or if he has learned to control his nerves.

[Tom206wrc]

Tänak is flying in WRC2 :eek:
Despite the gap, I'm afraid he could really catch Chardonnet during the rally(if pace continues without puncture unlike yesterday) :(

[dimviii]

nice compare video.Mikkelsen,Ogier.Meeke,Latvala
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zC8l5FVYrPU

[dimviii]

iRally @Official_iRally · 6 δευτ.
Tom Cave and Sander Pärn have started SS15 in Drive DMACK Fiesta Trophy....Cave started with a lead of 1.7, but Pärn is 5.5 up at 10.00km

[KKS]

Meeke looks fast too! But hero of video - JML!

[Tom206wrc]

SS16 running ;)

[wwbroe]

Paddon is fastest so far

[wwbroe]

Ogier not moving anymore on tracking?

Edit:must be mistake on tracking

[wwbroe]

Ogier is fastest trough sofar

[KKS]

Citroen boys on split are equal!
Seems battle of a car despite battle of a drivers

[Tom206wrc]

Latvala untouchable :s

[Nazar Swan]

onboard ss11
www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHd4O5pN9N8

onboard ss12
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs1YuMLiJWU

onboard ss13
www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXOqOvgkcSU

[wwbroe]

What a time for JML, 7'58"9, he is just flying, hope he keeps his act together.

[KKS]

Ketoma - stopped..... ohhhh

[Tom206wrc]

Citroen boys on split are equal!
Seems battle of a car despite battle of a drivers

In the end of each stage Meeke always find a little something to be faster than Östberg :confused:

[noel157]

Hopefully just a puncture for Ketomma.

[KKS]

In the end of each stage Meeke always find a little something to be faster than Östberg :confused:
this stage was unfamiliar, always VW get more from last split then others

[makinen_fan]

what a pathetic response by Ogier...

[KKS]

Hopefully just a puncture for Ketomma.
at least puncture is +2min

[Tom206wrc]

Ketoma - stopped..... ohhhh


Chardonnet too it looks like :(

[noel157]

at least puncture is +2min

Yep, better now than later.

[KKS]

Yep, better now than later.
Better never then later :)

[noel157]

True....

Chardonnet?

[KKS]

But we must say "thank" to this situation wirh Ketoma puncture - now we have realy battle for 2nd place :)

[KKS]

Nice vid form 1st ans 2nd day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKPeUMCZXc

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally-base wasnt working & this site wouldnt let me post earlier ! :(

Following on Twitter since 6.30 UK excited to see how Meeke was doing.. :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Rally-base wasnt working & this site wouldnt let me post earlier ! :(

Following on Twitter since 6.30 UK excited to see how Meeke was doing.. :eek:

You also have http://www.ewrc-results.com that worked faster than Rally-Base this morning ;)

[Tom206wrc]

By the way: some Fiesta R2s from the DMack Trophy are simply FASTER than the fastest of the DS3 R3s from JWRC !!! Try to look for the mistake somewhere :s

[KKS]

Seb Chardo on the road
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuBYuTMCcAAdZUA.jpg

But doesn't countinue? why?

[noel157]

Seb Chardo on the road
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuBYuTMCcAAdZUA.jpg

But doesn't countinue? why?

Cage damage above co-driver?

[makinen_fan]

By the way: some Fiesta R2s from the DMack Trophy are simply FASTER than the fastest of the DS3 R3s from JWRC !!! Try to look for the mistake somewhere :s

Good point, just noticed that. But the fastest in RC4 overall is Haapamaki, just 4s behind Koci :eek: thats crazy

[noel157]

Good point, just noticed that. But the fastest in RC4 overall is Haapamaki, just 4s behind Koci :eek: thats crazy

Hasn't NORF always been about big cojones...... : )

[DonJippo]

Some offs and mistakes

http://www.ruutu.fi/ohjelmat/rallin-mm-sarja/suomen-mm-ralli-kaadot-ja-ulosajot

[noel157]

Some offs and mistakes

http://www.ruutu.fi/ohjelmat/rallin-mm-sarja/suomen-mm-ralli-kaadot-ja-ulosajot

Edit- make sure your adblocker is off................

[Fast Eddie WRC]

After SS17
Latvala
Ogier +28.2
Meeke +37.4
Mikkelsen +1:18.2
Ostberg +1:25.7
Hirvo +1:37.0
Paddon +3:05.2
Evans +3:35.8

[Ucci]

IMHO Ogier settled for second position. He will not risk anymore, almost 30 seconds behind JML on finn's soil is way to much to catch....just control the pace and enjoy.

[noel157]

IMHO Ogier settled for second position. He will not risk anymore, almost 30 seconds behind JML on finn's soil is way to much to catch....just control the pace and enjoy.

Would agree, I suppose he can hope that may change...........

[Fast Eddie WRC]

IMHO Ogier settled for second position. He will not risk anymore, almost 30 seconds behind JML on finn's soil is way to much to catch....just control the pace and enjoy.

He's been more concerned with winning 2nd place against Meeke than settling for it...

[KKS]

Today Mikko is so slow:( Finn at home and so slow. Mads alomost faster then him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke slow on SS18 splits... :(

[wwbroe]

Bad time for Meeke in there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bad time for Meeke in there.

Had a scare in the previous stage so just going steady before the next break ...

[KKS]

Tanak problems contuined.... no power steering again

[N.O.T]

Meeke slow on SS18 splits... :(

That is why you must wait before trying to sound smart...when i said Ogier is out of bounds for meeke... hope you learned your lesson.

[Nazar Swan]

Neste Oil Rally Finland 2014 @ Highlights Day 1
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDm2ndtRJp0

[Frostmourne]

Is Ogier playing mind games with JML? Even if he is, think 30 secs is really hard to overcome in Finland. I think JML should not take risks anymore.

I really just hope we find consistency from Jari-Matti, it will put alot of pressure on Seb O in future events!!

Lets hope JML will finish NORF without any surprises first.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That is why you must wait before trying to sound smart...when i said Ogier is out of bounds for meeke... hope you learned your lesson.

Hardly - he's within seconds after hours of rallying. You teach everyone nothing but how to be disliked.

[N.O.T]

Hardly - he's within seconds after hours of rallying. You teach everyone nothing but how to be disliked.

just do not jump the gun next time and you will be fine... especially with someone who knows the sport.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

just do not jump the gun next time and you will be fine... especially with someone who knows the sport.

I've only been attending rallies since 1983. You might know the sport but you dont know how to express it without arrogance.

[N.O.T]

I've only been attending rallies since 1983. You might know the sport but you dont know how to express it without arrogance.

The fact that you are spectating since 1983 and still making those bold remarks shows that you are REALLY slow in comprehending things, maybe you need another 30 years to manage and grasp the basics, so do not lose hope... argument is over.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The fact that you are spectating since 1983 and still making those bold remarks shows that you are REALLY slow in comprehending things, maybe you need another 30 years to manage and grasp the basics, so do not lose hope... argument is over.

Such a sad person you are with no hope, joy or excitement in what you write about rally sport - why do you bother.

I pity you but in your own words:



do not hate him, sympathise him...

[Mk2 RS2000]

Have either of you two protagonists ever actually sat in a rally car whilst its been in competition?

[miniwintz]

how is it relevant

[Juha_Koo]

Please note after stage 18 the fastest 2WD is Henri Haapamäki with C2 R2, 17th overall! He's made some really big development lately!

[dimviii]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-4664-0-56987400-1406981818.png

[dimviii]

Please note after stage 18 the fastest 2WD is Henri Haapamäki with C2 R2, 17th overall! He's made some really big development lately!

Koci at Service: "Everything is going perfect...we are in the lead...there is a big gap. I enjoy the stages. The DS3 is really perfect..."

[wwbroe]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-4664-0-56987400-1406981818.png

Where did he damage the rollcage?

[KKS]

why this again happen to Mads, hand hurt in Argentina .... now rollcage

[dimviii]

lol

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-4664-0-75090700-1406982743.png

[6789]

Pretty sure that's Craig Breen from last year (ouninpohja?). Such a shame for Mads, I wonder how he damaged the cage?

[KKS]

assumption from Becs..

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy) 2m (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy/status/495544063601700865)
Just listening back on the #WRCLive (https://twitter.com/hashtag/WRCLive?src=hash) recap to Mads saying he 'hit a rock in the line' 'it was a massive impact' = roll cage damage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gutted for Mads.. bad luck has struck him again. How does a rock damage the roll cage ... must be like it did to Neuville...

[skarderud]

Rollcage on top of engine was broke?
How in earth is that possible?
Really sorry for mads now.

[dimviii]

Rollcage on top of engine was broke?
How in earth is that possible?
Really sorry for mads now.

yes it is possible with a big stone.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

CITROEN UNABLE TO REPAIR
Acting team principal Marek Nawarecki explained: "Mads reported a heavy impact on SS18. When we got the car back we carried out a thorough investigation of the front right suspension but in fact the impact was underneath the car on the undertray and this in turn damaged part of the roll cage in the engine bay. It’s not something we’re able to fix here so we have no choice but to withdraw his car from the rally."

[Mise]

lol

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2014/post-4664-0-75090700-1406982743.png

Think I'm in this picture. This isn't from this years NORF, is it.

[dimviii]

this must be from 2012 when Breen rolled.


youtube channel with onboards
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcYTXpcTlp8xipWL9VYhYBg

[KKS]

Paddon really pushing through the stage!

[Nazar Swan]

onboard ss14 - Ogier
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhqI6luYzvU

onboard ss15 - Latvala
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZzkue8Odig

[Langdale Forest]

How did Ostbergs rollcage get bent?

[arko5]

Ogier on maximum ;)

[Mise]

the white shirt guy above E and S... That's me

[KKS]

Ogier on maximum ;)
Meeke on wink behind

[N.O.T]

onboard ss14 - Ogier
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhqI6luYzvU

onboard ss15 - Latvala
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZzkue8Odig

thank you very much for posting these...

however if the people at WRC want us to pay to watch onboard footage at 480p below 30 fps in an era of HD and 60fps they are just out of their minds... is this how they think the sport will gain an audience ?? let alone the camera positions... I think they just want to keep the WRC under control rather than expose it to the world...

[N.O.T]

Latvala 5 seconds slower than his morning pass... cruise mode.

[Miika]

The rally has started.

[GallardoGT]

onboard ss14 - Ogier
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhqI6luYzvU

onboard ss15 - Latvala
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZzkue8Odig

Thanks!

[Frostmourne]

What's up with Jari? 11 secs slower than Ogier!! I hope nothing serious..he has to focus !! Not sure why Rally-base.com not showing any driver comments/accidents..etc for today's leg!!

[Miika]

What's up with Jari? 11 secs slower than Ogier!! I hope nothing serious..he has to focus !! Not sure why Rally-base.com not showing any driver comments/accidents..etc for today's leg!!

Quotes here:
http://eventnews.ynil.com/events/2014/WRC/Rally-Finland/WRC/SS20-WRC.html

[KKS]

Gorban stopped.. agrr... we lost Protasov early in a day, know Gorban... only Kochamr in a rally from Ukraine.

[Mirek]

Latvala 5 seconds slower than his morning pass... cruise mode.

No, he reported problems with brakes after he hit a big hole.

[KKS]

however if the people at WRC want us to pay to watch onboard footage at 480p below 30 fps in an era of HD and 60fps they are just out of their minds... is this how they think the sport will gain an audience ?? let alone the camera positions... I think they just want to keep the WRC under control rather than expose it to the world...
I will pay for coverage that it was on France.... ammm 2012? 2011? Live web coverage from all stages! That was a future of WRC, but that people and thar idea faster thrown in the trash.... shame

[N.O.T]

I will pay for coverage that it was on France.... ammm 2012? 2011? Live web coverage from all stages! That was a future of WRC, but that people and thar idea faster thrown in the trash.... shame

yes the France coverage was indeed very good, the quality of the footage was very good but again the position of the cameras needs to change.

[makinen_fan]

No, he reported problems with brakes after he hit a big hole.

and some cosmetic damage
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCfjLbIQAA8QYX.jpg

[KKS]

Gorban contuined! according to shown new split time +18min

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rock causing the trouble ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCh8HUCQAAUrEn.jpg:large

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-LBBKmXKs8&sns=tw
Prokop, Gorban, Kruuda have a problem on same corner at Päijälä stage

[KKS]

Rock causing the trouble ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCh8HUCQAAUrEn.jpg:large
looks like this rock caused a problems to a half WRC3 cars

[DonJippo]

and some cosmetic damage
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCfjLbIQAA8QYX.jpg

Latvala was stopped over 20mins on the way to next stage, let's see if they managed to fix the brakes.

[Frostmourne]

Seriously if Jari did not make it.... I can say then Ogier moaning jinx others!! Man that guy moans alot, more than ex-fiancee :D

[KKS]

Gorban contuined! according to shown new split time +18min
and finally
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCmLFECMAAWxAV.jpg

[dimviii]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/q71/s720x720/10514447_882450601783890_7671055009652615141_o.jpg

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCsnIGIUAA7Xh1.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hirvonen won the jump competition at Päijälä with a jump of 41 m @ 148 km/h ..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuCv6zzIcAAO7vU.jpg:large

[dimviii]

lets see if Ogier will try to grab the chance.

[Frostmourne]

Any news about JML? will he start on time?

[arko5]

So... Ogier will be lider on the end of day...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML is struggling now... :(

[Nazar Swan]

onboard ss16 - Meeke
www.youtube.com/watch?v=K28qLMW1AwM

onboard ss17 - Ostberg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X81SSQtJilg

[EightGear]

JML has only got 3 brakes.

[dimviii]

now 12,8 the difference

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML SS21: We managed to fix some of it but not all, we have only three brake callipers, the right front calliper is not working and there is nothing we can do.

[Koceens]

This is gonna be a massive push tomorrow by the Volkswagen guys. Myhinpaa could be the decider.

[jonkka]

Mathematically JML's lead should hold. On this stage he lost 7,2 secs over 15 kilometers. There are two stages worth of 14,5 kilometers remaining and JML's lead is 12,8 secs.

[KKS]

Ogier now laughing around the corner with stolen caliper from JML car

12 sec it's not enough to be safe in this position

[Frostmourne]

With the pressure from Ogier, I dont think JML can hold it tomorrow, mentally and on the road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If Ogier wins it wont be on pure speed, Latvala has already proved he's the fastest here.

[KKS]

Nearly same situation in WRC2 if Ketoma NOW didn't go faster - Tanak will be at 2nd position tomorrow

[Nazar Swan]

onboard ss18
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcZYLM4WdCA

[thuGG]

So gutted for Jari-Matti's problems :( Fingers crossed for problems to magically dissapear.

[Susiraja]

Normally I don't consider Latvala as the strongest person mentally. This time however he has kept Ogier behind him for two days. I don't think it matters to Latvala that the gap is smaller, because of a brake problem.

[dimviii]

before ss22
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuC9cIZCcAAWunO.jpg

[jonkka]

Why working on front left? Disconnecting that as well to help balanced (but less effective) braking?

[dimviii]

now 9,9 the diff.lets see how many will take Ogier at the last 11km for today

[jonkka]

Seems that JML will keep the lead

[jonkka]

now 9,9 the diff.lets see how many will take Ogier at the last 11km for today

10.01 km

[jonkka]

His loss has been around 0,5 sec / km in past two stages, so lead should be between 4 to 6 seconds if Leustu is not especially bad or good for him.

[stefanvv]

10.01 km

VW motorsport site says it is exactly 11 km

[jonkka]

Official itinerary, wrc.com and fia.com all say 10.01 km.

[janvanvurpa]

Where did he damage the rollcage?

Out on one of the stages when the wheels were up in the air.
That's where most people damage cages..
Scratches the paint some, too when I've do it...

[janvanvurpa]

If Ogier wins it wont be on pure speed, Latvala has already proved he's the fastest here.


Yep, but they don't give points for being the fastest. like they say in some parts of Finland: först till kvarn

[arko5]

Tomorow will be beatifull fight between JML and Ogier :) 3,4 sec diff.

[KKS]

I like that JML! "I don't care about a championship, it's all about Rally Finland!" I love it! Every rally must be with this spirit!

[N.O.T]

It will be interesting how both Latvala and Ogier will handle tomorrow...

[jonkka]

Absolutely great stuff!

[N.O.T]

I like that JML! "I don't care about a championship, it's all about Rally Finland!" I love it! Every rally must be with this spirit!

It is very easy to make comments like that when you are 50 points behind... I wonder if it would be the same if the roles where reversed.

[Frostmourne]

I like that JML! "I don't care about a championship, it's all about Rally Finland!" I love it! Every rally must be with this spirit!

To be honest, even if JML wins Finland and and the rest remaining rallies, his chances for the championship is really low if Ogier kept getting second place +3 power stage point.

My expectation for tomorrow. Ogier will win. Do not think JML have the nerves and the focus to win this. Ogier will fight tooth and nail for the win.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier: "I can’t smile too much about the situation." I bet.

[KKS]

and just 21.9 sec diff in WRC2 from 3rd to 2nd. 0.6sec/km will be secure Ketoma's 2nd place

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML "We're not a lot in the lead but the main this is we ARE in the lead. Tomorrow are two great stages that I'm really looking forward to. We have to fight there for sure. I don't have to worry about the championship. For me it's all about winning this rally. It's all or nothing."

Hope he wins, deserves to.

[KKS]

As I remember in past winning a rally was more prestige then now. And this kind of talk - maybe turn present rally to old good rallies with battle spirit etc

[janvanvurpa]

As I remember in past winning a rally was more prestige then now. And this kind of talk - maybe turn present rally to old good rallies with battle spirit etc

Yes I seem to recall this too. Certainly people must have thought about season end points, but it wasn't used as an excuse---like I see many driving just above the level needed to stay awake--who say "We were driving to our program looking at season end points " (as the drive HOURS behind the leader).

my self I always thought "today us today. my brain extends to "next corner. Then next corner, then NEXT CORNER"...Worked for me.

Sorta

Mostly..

[N.O.T]

If only Meeke had this attitude in his career... he would be a serious contender for a good competitive team. Very nice rally for him.

[MartijnS]

Small selection of todays photos: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.683790881708884.1073741862.102597653161546&type=1

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10435120_683791228375516_3036996354842850281_n.jpg

And Joost his video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFoMYUGE8SA !

[MJW]

I know there is a danger in just looking at end of leg positions, as problems may have been encountered by drivers that don't immediately show on results, BUT have you noticed how many R2 Drive DMack Fiestas are ahead of WRC JWRC DS3 R3 cars.

[Nazar Swan]

rock for Latvala ss20 ((

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OOjdXSuqNg

[KKS]

http://timoanis.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/TA_2014_6745.jpg

Fresh photos from Timo
http://timoanis.eu/season-2014/wrc-neste-oil-rally-finland/ (http://timoanis.eu/season-2014/wrc-neste-oil-rally-finland/)

[Jafry]

Photos from Saturday HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1287

[Nazar Swan]

onboard ss19
www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfQayLNQa68

onboard ss20
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJlx_mR3A0

[KKS]

And Joost his video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFoMYUGE8SA !
Tnx!
Good spot! And how fast they are! Wounderful!

[dimviii]

rock for Latvala ss20 ((

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OOjdXSuqNg

100% unlucky this time.

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmaivac4PX0

[dimviii]

borl leg2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9fCVQUn9uPY

[Nazar Swan]

onboard ss21
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnCul9HjZa8

onboard ss22
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B85-JaMc53s

onboard ss23
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC41EI6659M

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Others get punctures, broken wheels, damaged roll cages, broken dampers, broken brake calipers... Ogier gets:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuDnGzUCEAEQBg9.jpg

[Langdale Forest]

How did Ostberg damage his roll cage?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuEALRIIUAAOHvu.jpg

:rolleyes:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How did Ostberg damage his roll cage?

Citroen: “Mads reported a heavy impact after a jump on SS18. When we got the car back we carried out a thorough investigation of the front right suspension but in fact the impact was underneath the car on the undertray and this in turn damaged part of the rollcage in the engine bay.

[stefanvv]

How did Ostberg damage his roll cage?

Hit a rock after a jump from front right.

EDIT: ok - Fast Ediie was.... faster

[noel157]

Lucky the rad/s wasn't punctured.

[Frostmourne]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuEALRIIUAAOHvu.jpg

:rolleyes:

To consider a career as WRC driver you have to be lucky first then talented. A talent without luck will take you no where.

[HarriK]

that ss18 rock is only 5cm up from road surface. I was there, just standing 5m from that stone. I just read and watched the film which says that this stone was the reason for rollgage bend.... I cannot understand!

[dimviii]

that ss18 rock is only 5cm up from road surface. I was there, just standing 5m from that stone. I just read and watched the film which says that this stone was the reason for rollgage bend.... I cannot understand!
onboard from Mads at stage 18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xcZYLM4WdCA

if somebody find the time when Mads hit the stone please let me know.I am on vacation and with not fast internet to watch all the video.

[stefanvv]

that ss18 rock is only 5cm up from road surface. I was there, just standing 5m from that stone. I just read and watched the film which says that this stone was the reason for rollgage bend.... I cannot understand!

Watching the video is even more confusing, the rock they accuse is the size of the above in Ogier's radiator compartment. I don't understand either.

[Nazar Swan]

WRC blocks video channel WRC Onboards, tell them thank you for it that they are not allowed to be divided even poor quality video (( It is a pity that WRC does not love their fans!

[KKS]

onboard from Mads at stage 18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xcZYLM4WdCA

if somebody find the time when Mads hit the stone please let me know.I am on vacation and with not fast internet to watch all the video.
Private video

[6789]

onboard from Mads at stage 18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xcZYLM4WdCA

if somebody find the time when Mads hit the stone please let me know.I am on vacation and with not fast internet to watch all the video.

Here's the rock WRC tv cited, not sure if it was this rock because he landed before this.

http://i61.tinypic.com/bheyht.jpg

[Tommi Heinäjärvi]

Kakaristo 1 (video):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=684012175007285&set=vb.100001955253519&type=2&theater

Kakaristo 2 (video):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=684880008253835&set=vb.100001955253519&type=2&theater

[dimviii]

when i posted i could see the video damn...

[Juha_Koo]

Good morning from the road section! Was supposed to go to Myhinpää today but because of the overall situation heading to Ruuhimäki.

All the best for JML!

[jonkka]

Okay - ready for epic battle. Myhinpaa will be the decider, being twice as long as both Ruuhimaki runs together.

[Miika]

Breen found the limits of the car, and his back.

[makinen_fan]

Hope he gets well soon. Just noticed though he wears Peugeot overalls
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuGBdiQCYAAn6hE.jpg:large

[makinen_fan]

Prokop crash onboard and pics:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=24862&title=fotografie-martina-prokopa-po-nehode-ve-finsku

[6789]

Hope he gets well soon. Just noticed though he wears Peugeot overalls


Yeah Scott Martin mentioned at the regroup for service esterday that it was because of their ERC commitments. Not a budget issue so to speak.

[jonkka]

JML 1sec faster on first split according to YLE RR. :) :)

[6789]

Great start by Jari-Matti! two more stages to go.

[jonkka]

The most intense battle of the season and forum is almost completely dead... ominous

[Mintexmemory]

Would be great if he can bring it home with the PS too. Should now be a contest for the rest of the season but he needs an Ogier DNF (or 2) for the WDC. Very disappointed with Mikkelsen's lack of pace in Finland, surely he should be more consistent.

[KKS]

The most intense battle of the season and forum is almost completely dead... ominous
as i could compare to past years - it's same as all season long and I think you put your hands to this. with post such "rally is over on SS1" etc. :(

[KKS]

Tanak looks like on "Sunday driving" mode today

[jonkka]

as i could compare to past years - it's same as all season long and I think you put your hands to this. with post such "rally is over on SS1" etc. :(

Too often it is, that's true. But now when there is that rare battle and excitement, people should be overjoyed because of it.

[KKS]

Ohhh drama for Breen

23. Craig Breen (IRL) / Scott Martin (GBR) - Ford Fiesta RS WRC
[Looked to be in discomfort, got out of car and walked around] [Scott Martin] Craig has really hurt his back and doesn't think he can drive at the moment so we need someone to look at it. I think we jumped too high and the landing was very hard. He can move everything OK but can't drive at the moment. [Craig Breen] I tried to go flat over the famous jumps but I'm on morphene now. I won't be able to continue. [Scott] I think the morphene is starting to kick in now. The pain isn't too bad for him, it's just important that we are sensible and don't cause any more problems. The landing was just much heavier than we thought it would be. It could just be a compression of a muscle. We got quicker every stage, such an important thing. It's been really fantastic and really enjoyed it. It's a shame this has happened but we put some real good times in. The main thing is that he's OK.

[KKS]

Too often it is, that's true. But now when there is that rare battle and excitement, people should be overjoyed because of it.
To be honest .... I oversleept, but I think no real battle could be. Ogier not will battle too hard to get that 3 seconds, destory his tyres and lose PS 3 points. It's not Ogier tactics.

[wwbroe]

I am ready to follow the last two stages now. To be honest, i went out yesterday, came only at home around 5 this morning, so sort of overslept as well.

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Wo8VRgsYmGM

[wwbroe]

Penultimate stage is live now, let's see if Ogier is going to try something or he will let it go and put everything on powerstage.

[KKS]

And Breen retire with back pain
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuGRGeMIAAAv2_T.jpg

[dimviii]

wtf

Teemu/Rallirinki.net @HartusvuoriWRC · 6 λεπ.
15 minutes before 1st car marshall made us remove our flags for JML and Juho. Flags had been there for over an hour. No supporting allowed..

[KKS]

Ogier have very poor fans in finnish marshals squad :D

[jonkka]

dimvii, are you a greek?

[dimviii]

yep

[jonkka]

Why you follow finnish rallirinki? Or has it just outgrown into international arena already?

[dimviii]

Why you follow finnish rallirinki? Or has it just outgrown into international arena already?

i dont follow it,i find it at i rally live twitter.

[jonkka]

Ah, yes, of course. My bad.

[wwbroe]

Seems ike Hirvonen might catch Paddon, who is struggeling with power steering?

[KKS]

Paddon loosing too much as for just car without powersteering

[dimviii]

MICHELIN Motorsport @michelin_sport · 1 λεπ.
#Tyres information: all drivers with 5 #Michelin LTX Force S4 #wrc #RallyFinland

[wwbroe]

Paddon is about 1,5 minute slower as Hanninen

[KKS]

agrrr! end when VW splits comes..... citroen site -go down :(

[dimviii]

here we are!

[wwbroe]

Another poor drive by Hirvonen, loosing 8,7 sec to Juho.

[KKS]

+0.5 jml

[KKS]

Another poor drive by Hirvonen, loosing 8,7 sec to Juho.

Mikko too on Sunday driving mode

[Rally Talent]

Battle is getting tight in WRC3. Interesting to see if Suninen can catch Koci. This kid is superfast with only 2 years experience from rallying I heard...

[wwbroe]

Ogier is trying for sure, he is 5 sec faster as Hanninen on second split

[wwbroe]

10'15"5 for Ogier!!!!

[dimviii]

equal at 2nd split

[wwbroe]

10'16"8 for JML

[KKS]

Looks like JML managed it

[miniwintz]

1.3 sec

[dimviii]

iRally @Official_iRally · 18 δευτ.
Latvala drops 1.3 to Ogier, lead cut to 3.7

[miniwintz]

expect a big push from ogier in ps...

[6789]

Jari-Matti with slight issue, only one side of the helmets intercom was working.

[dimviii]

Latvala loses time with broken intercom: "The loudspeakers are broken on the right side...we still have some seconds"

[wwbroe]

expect a big push from ogier in ps...

For sure, but i don't think he will make up 3,7 sec in the power stage.

[makinen_fan]

Helmet trouble for Latvala

3.7s should be ok for 6km stage.

[KKS]

If JML trouble free drive in PS - all will be OK

[KKS]

Can they swap helmets with Miikka?

[jonkka]

Now for the PS - JML was so much faster on the first run and if that is any indication, I am hopeful that he can bag it as well. Having said that, Ogi will surely fight for the extra points.

[jonkka]

Can they swap helmets with Miikka?

I don't think it's necessary, like they said in rally radio, Jari-Matti can drive Ruuhimaki with his eyes closed.

[wwbroe]

Battle is getting tight in WRC3. Interesting to see if Suninen can catch Koci. This kid is superfast with only 2 years experience from rallying I heard...

He is in front of Koci now!

[KKS]

Funny comment from Eyvind
Eyvind Brynildsen ‏@E_Brynildsen (https://twitter.com/E_Brynildsen) 2m (https://twitter.com/E_Brynildsen/status/495851191864422400)
Engine is now very tired. Took it steady on high gears. We will go flat out on power stage. Nothing to loose! The goal is to beat Henning :)

[Rally Talent]

He is in front of Koci now!

Yes, amazing drive!

[Rally Talent]

Al Rajhi after Myhinpaa: "We drive very slow like my grandfather! We enjoyed it, never do we see the shift light. Tonight I fly to my vacation. On the jumps we go slowly."

What on Earth???

[KKS]

If not yesterday problems for Koci - no battle will be today. BTW what a reason for 23min late for Koci?

[DonJippo]

Someone been off in Ruuhimäki...

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10592622_882856131743337_7920757326339862624_n.jpg

[Munkvy]

Al Rajhi after Myhinpaa: "We drive very slow like my grandfather! We enjoyed it, never do we see the shift light. Tonight I fly to my vacation. On the jumps we go slowly."

What on Earth???
Didn't he break his back a while back? So I am guessing not supposed to have heavy landings...?

Shame about Paddon, was looking to be a good fight between him and Hänninen.

[donlorean]

If not yesterday problems for Koci - no battle will be today. BTW what a reason for 23min late for Koci?
gearbox change went a pit long last night service...

[Wim_Impreza]

Didn't he break his back a while back? So I am guessing not supposed to have heavy landings...?

Yes, that is true.

Incredible driving by #85 Haapamäki, #101 Sander Pärn and #66 Teemu Suninen.

[Le NaRcX]

Would anyone please tell me what tv channel shows the power stage on German TV? THANK YOU

[MartijnS]

Didn't he break his back a while back? So I am guessing not supposed to have heavy landings...?

Shame about Paddon, was looking to be a good fight between him and Hänninen.

We were at the jumps and after Latvala and Ogier , he made the biggest jump of all :)

[KiwiWRCfan]

We were at the jumps and after Latvala and Ogier , he made the biggest jump of all :)

Who are you referring to as making biggest jump after JML & Ogier ? Paddon ?

[irish_tiger]

Would anyone please tell me what tv channel shows the power stage on German TV? THANK YOU
Is there a link to the net to watch the power stage ?

[KKS]

Is there a link to the net to watch the power stage ?
just google "BT Sport 2 online"

[noel157]

http://www.stream2watch.me/live-tv/bt-sport-2-live-stream

[dimviii]

from Andre Lavadinho
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuGdcNACEAAJgFC.jpg:large

[jonkka]

Watching live from TV. They have Juha Kankkunen as their expert guest and it seems that the commentator is not educated enough to know that Juha himself started this stage in 1999 in rally lead and back then it was not power stage but extra TV stage points were available. Anyone else would ask about that day.

[satnav]

3 min gap for first 10 then 4 min gap for 4 min gap for Meeke , Ogier +Jari Matti