Rallye Monte Carlo 2014

[rage82]

Didn't they obliged to do recce for all stages? Or the regulations just said maximum 2 passes on stage and you can skip someone?

[dupanton]

As I understood it, they missed a part of the stage because they took a wrong turn...

[N.O.T]

tomorrow cruise mode for everyone... pity the hyundais left the battle so early and we did not get any indication of their speed today were conditions were more predictable for all.

[Eli]

where are they showing the first stage live tommorw?

[tomhlord]

ss11 is 6pm Uk time. So its not live on BT sports at 5pm

Steve

No, sorry, this is incorrect. The stage started at 6pm French time, so that's 5pm UK time.

BT Sport 2 ran a re-run of their live coverage earlier (SS9) at also 5pm.

[tomhlord]

Bouffier lost 32 seconds to the stage winner.....but without his own pacenotes. None too shabby!

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0z2waddnC8

[WUff1]

Bouffier lost 32 seconds to the stage winner.....but without his own pacenotes. None too shabby!

Yes, suppose he´ll be faster again tomorrow - if nothing happens ...

[makinen_fan]

a good close up of Ogier big moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Jq4uhU--c

[Fast Eddie WRC]

where are they showing the first stage live tommorw?

Live streams will be here:
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?mat ... art=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=240085&part=sports)

[big_sw2000]

ss11 is 6pm Uk time. So its not live on BT sports at 5pm

Steve

No, sorry, this is incorrect. The stage started at 6pm French time, so that's 5pm UK time.

BT Sport 2 ran a re-run of their live coverage earlier (SS9) at also 5pm.
Yeah, got my times arse backwards lol.

Steve

[Jafry]

Photos from DAY2: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1225

[Micke_VOC]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=525653844216264

Kubicas crash from outside... (Movie)

Edit: Also found a youtube-link for you who not have Facebook
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy2_tw-QPCU

[noel157]

Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.

[marcosg]

Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.

I think he got caught out underbraking because of water (maybe icy) and that put him into the corner with just a little too much speed...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=710837678935231

onboard @02.00

[Timole]

http://timoanis.eu/season-2014/wrc-rallye-monte-carlo/ here are the photos from friday!

[Rallyper]

a good close up of Ogier big moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9Jq4uhU--c

A good driver shall be lucky as well. Now he was twice...

[noel157]

Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.

I think he got caught out underbraking because of water (maybe icy) and that put him into the corner with just a little too much speed...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=710837678935231

onboard @02.00

Possibly, but too much speed whatever the reason.
Thanks for the onboard.

[Langdale Forest]

If Kris Meeke finishes 3rd tomrow, he'll be the first British driver to get a podium since Richard Burns in Australia 2003.

[Juha_Koo]

Ogier Onboard SS4... 00:48 for example :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHZHxde8RE

[jparker]

Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.

I'm not sure, but I think Kubica kept his foot on the brakes till the end.
Releasing few meters before the bridge could of helped avoid the crash.

[A FONDO]

Ogier Onboard SS4... 00:48 for example :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHZHxde8RE
what a bunch of fools! they should have put SS9 or at least SS7! Also Bouffy from SS8!

[skarderud]

After seen ogiers couple of incidents, i'm willing to put money on that last years fords wouldn't survived that.
You can call it luck or whatever, vw has build a solid car:)

[stefanvv]

Ogier Onboard SS4... 00:48 for example :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHZHxde8RE
Perfect example what tyre choice mean at Monte. Driving on the limit with wrong tyres and losing about 1 sec/km.

[Wim_Impreza]

56 year old Marc Duez drives top 20 times with a Porsche 911 GT3 with lots of HP on the rear wheels in those conditions... :colour:

Still a great driver!

Indeed, big respect to him. Duez is not only fast, but also very friendly. :)

[tolis]

So, in 12 minutes, Day 2 coverage of Monte Carlo will be here: http://www.hqsport.tv/bt_sport2.php
Also in 12 minutes, actually when snooker finishes :crazy: Dakar coverage will be here: http://www.hqsport.tv/euro_sport1.php

Enjoy! :bounce:

[Wim_Impreza]

Thanks tolis. :) Enjoy it too!

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_I-TGEefqw

[Allyc85]

56 year old Marc Duez drives top 20 times with a Porsche 911 GT3 with lots of HP on the rear wheels in those conditions... :colour:

Still a great driver!


Indeed, big respect to him. Duez is not only fast, but also very friendly. :)

Seriously? Everything I have seen him he barely touches the throttle and corners like a granny. I have been far more impressed with Twingo drivers if I am honest!

[Wim_Impreza]

56 year old Marc Duez drives top 20 times with a Porsche 911 GT3 with lots of HP on the rear wheels in those conditions... :colour:

Still a great driver!


Indeed, big respect to him. Duez is not only fast, but also very friendly. :)

Seriously? Everything I have seen him he barely touches the throttle and corners like a granny. I have been far more impressed with Twingo drivers if I am honest!

You don't remember his great results in the past I think? Or maybe you are very young that you can't remember this results? ;) You must know that Duez is only driving for his pleasure now and for the fans and that he had very serious heart problems in 2003.

[PLuto]

Start list into third leg - http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte ... TypeId=410 (http://rally-base.com/2014/rallye-monte-carlo-2014/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=410)

[HarriK]

Bt2 very good day coverage.

[dimviii]

Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.

car unstabilized at brakes due to waters on road(watch previous part of road was different asphalt with no standing waters) and this forced him to came into the right hand curve at totaly wrong line (car at curve entry rides from center to right side of road)and some km/h more.

[dimviii]

About Duez,sure is a legend and big respect for him,but really can t understand all this wow about this drive at Monte.Similar times with r2 twingos are not wow for a works porsche cup car with some hundreds hp more.

[bluuford]

Weather. for tomorrow.
Take your umbrellas out!
Currently it looks like stage 13 and 15 will be very heavy rain..all the time!
Turini stage, also heavy rain, but current numbers are indicating that snowfall should start between 1300 and 1400 meters. That makes up to 6 km of snow on Turini stage. Moreover, by the fist pass, the thickness of snow can be up to 15 cm, by the second pass, it can be up to 25 cm. So, lets see. I will get the latest update for mu weather maps tomorrow morning:-)

[dimviii]

like this photo
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeMP0gTCEAAvsJp.jpg


Evans doing homework before test
http://instagram.com/p/jRmvucNXXO/

[marcosg]

Just carrying too much speed, locked up and had a "soft" off. Pity the bridge was there (and the bank) but great performance last couple of days.

I'm not sure, but I think Kubica kept his foot on the brakes till the end.
Releasing few meters before the bridge could of helped avoid the crash.

you can see him lifting the brakes to regain grip

[noel157]

Braking, lifting, understeering, too much speed, out of position.....Whatever happened, he binned it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bt2 very good day coverage.

Yeah highlights package was great with Jon Des on comms... :)

Live stage was awful though with Atkinson talking non stop even through the onboards.. :(

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q79/s720x720/1464672_266017450220444_134843037_n.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9KlIVotbug


suspension travel even in asphalt spec
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1009922_244526819054155_1168514232_n.jpg

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-1452-0-78855800-1389978693.jpg

some very nice slow motions from borl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmOpwChCTUs

[Juha_Koo]

Live stage was awful though with Atkinson talking non stop even through the onboards.. :(

I've noticed that this is a regular problem in live onboards which are broadcasted in some TV programme... For average joe, it's weird if there's no narration. Therefore they try to talk whatever nonsense to prevent "silence". In Finnish Eurosport Jakke Honkanen sometimes says "now lets listen to pacenotes for a while..." but even those pauses in narration are too short imo...

[dimviii]

stages 7-9 wrc
Mikkelsen spolo pushed by spectators on road
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAXnRgbg1xo#t=102

[RAS007]

Anyone got any links to any of the Day 1 or Day 2 full review programs from Motors TV or BT Sport? All I can find is a 2-3 minute review on wrc.com…….

[dimviii]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-229-0-80856500-1389997505.jpg
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-229-0-16751000-1389998023.jpg
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-229-0-66661600-1389998258.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvRS9-85XJs

[noel157]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvRS9-85XJs

Ogier was lucky (again) @ 40 secs. Another metre wider and it was bye bye. Fortune favours the brave?

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvRS9-85XJs

Ogier was lucky (again) @ 40 secs. Another metre wider and it was bye bye. Fortune favours the brave?

that was the reason i always prefered Loeb from Ogier.With Loeb you couldnt find these errors even at Monte with same conditions as this year.You could watch 40 videos from past Monte.Not a single mistake like these.Same situation for every rally.
Imho was the driver who could drive, nearer the edge from any other at his whole carier.

another Monte video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzyGrnCZuyQ

[noel157]

Day 2 from Citroen Racing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB_TmQlSstU

[dimviii]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140117/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140117-9585.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140117/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140117-9581.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140117/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140117-9545.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140117/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140117-9513.jpg

[mousti]

About Duez,sure is a legend and big respect for him,but really can t understand all this wow about this drive at Monte.Similar times with r2 twingos are not wow for a works porsche cup car with some hundreds hp more.
I think FWD cars with less HP are easier to drive in these conditions than the Porsche, the Twingo is also more fitted for rallying than the Porsche.

Quite good times from Gamba with Hankook tyres :)

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxT9K5oWglQ

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvRS9-85XJs

Ogier was lucky (again) @ 40 secs. Another metre wider and it was bye bye. Fortune favours the brave?
What do you expect with slicks on slush?

[irish_tiger]

Ogier Onboard SS4... 00:48 for example :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHZHxde8RE
You can see where Thierry Neuville went off at 4:14 ...

[litifeta]

You could hardly get annoyed at Kubica for that mistake. i have seen lots of videos with every driver making similar errors. Kubica was simply in a bad sport for it to happen. Saw Ogier hit a rail that under any other circumstances would have wrecked the steering.

[Negaiss]

You can see precipition (rain and snow) radar here - http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/france.html. A lot of snow and rain is forecasted for the region where todays stages are located, and it stars right about now! So very wet ir lover altitudes, snowy in high altitudes!

[dupanton]

[quote="Juha_Koo":2mg31tuq]Ogier Onboard SS4... 00:48 for example :O

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHZHxde8RE
You can see where Thierry Neuville went off at 4:14 ...[/quote:2mg31tuq]

In his notes, Neuville had "droite i", which means something like "an unimportant right". So he normally that is easy flat, he just got surprised by aquaplanning/ice... What a pity, but as mentioned here before, it could have happened to anyone. Ogier and Ostberg could have been out on the first stage too.

[Negaiss]

Some impresions about Monte 2014 an 2014 wrc season so far!

GOOD - Kubica is competitive!
GOOD - Meeke is competitive!
GOOD - Hyundai is competitive, at least not very far back !

BAD - nothing!

[Mihai]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-229-0-80856500-1389997505.jpg


I wonder what happened to that camera (remote flash device?) standing so dangerously close to Meeke's left-front tire ... :eek:

[RS]

Watching the highlights from yesterday, a lot of the action seemed really slow to me. Is this simply because the drivers were not on the right tyres or are such tyres not available to deal with these conditions? I don't know much about the latest tyre rules (compunds, cutting e.t.c.), can someone update?

[Bartek]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/t1/1511248_766009646760795_2116203507_n.jpg

Turini

[Kielder]

Turini starts to dress for the party: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeQCyVcIEAAwIiV.jpg

[Astro83]

Good morning!

The final day, and really looking forward to the classic Turini! :P


But before it starts 14.48, all you rally nuts look here for a live coverage of swedish rally championship in "sprint" with Petter Solberg in his C4 WRC, Thomas Rådström in a Xara WRC and many more. Put some of the fastest guys are sadly not there.

Qualify is live 10.30-12.30 here --> http://www.svtplay.se/video/1711148/sm- ... rally-kval (http://www.svtplay.se/video/1711148/sm-veckan-rally-kval)

Final is live 13.30-14.30 here --> http://www.svtplay.se/video/1711144/sm- ... ally-final (http://www.svtplay.se/video/1711144/sm-veckan-rally-final)


And after the final, WRC Live waits 14.48 and Col de Turini! :D

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvRS9-85XJs

Ogier was lucky (again) @ 40 secs. Another metre wider and it was bye bye. Fortune favours the brave?

that was the reason i always prefered Loeb from Ogier.With Loeb you couldnt find these errors even at Monte with same conditions as this year.You could watch 40 videos from past Monte.Not a single mistake like these.Same situation for every rally.
Imho was the driver who could drive, nearer the edge from any other at his whole carier.

another Monte video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzyGrnCZuyQ
we saw loeb in alsace when really under pressure :laugh: last monte he drove two stages and the tyre choice for next loop decided the rally

[Dug83]

Hopefully we don't have cancelled stages!!! Looks like there's going to be a lot of snow and rain.

[Kielder]

Hopefully we don't have cancelled stages!!! Looks like there's going to be a lot of snow and rain.

Remembering what happened last year too... :(

[Ucci]

Well, any comment about blistering performance by Italian driver matteo Gamba?? Leading WRC2 class, with outdated Pug 207, on Hankook tyres....so much for Italian drivers , who are fast just on home soil...well done Matteo!!

[dimviii]

we saw loeb in alsace when really under pressure :laugh: last monte he drove two stages and the tyre choice for next loop decided the rally
statistics about driver errors per rallies they participate says that you wrote, is absolutely stupid.

take your pills,and calm down.

[darkstar]

friend of me who´s at monte says it´s snowing a lot at the moment.

[Francis44]

we saw loeb in alsace when really under pressure :laugh: last monte he drove two stages and the tyre choice for next loop decided the rally
statistics about driver errors per rallies they participate says that you wrote, is absolutely stupid.

take your pills,and calm down.

Dimviii is right, Loeb was much smoother and tight. However when he did have to push 120%, which he rarely had to unfortunately, he would also make the ocasional mistake on gravel.

This is why I think the Loeb-Ogier comparisons are unfair for both of them. Ogier is much more agressive and sometimes all over the place in his driving style, while Loeb was smooth and incisive.

[dimviii]

Loeb was lucky

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k-wsWYHTvI

[makinen_fan]

Mikko near crash moment
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152212865212962

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuNpqDfC6o8

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Still snowing on Turini.. could be a great finale ! :D

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1/1014388_10203082238243588_1036405557_n.jpg

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-229-0-99280700-1390038747.jpg

[Francis44]

Is Chardonnet's DS3 R3 Max running that new engine for the DS3 R5? The engine sound is exactly the same as the one from the R5 video tests, and it dosen't sound that healthy.

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRsvv6k4Yg4

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/15/qqwc.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/835/3x92.jpg

[WUff1]

Yes, Gamba is doing a great rally so far!

But also Chardonnet.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Service park live stream in 15 mins ...

http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[satukata]

Service live working for you?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Service live working for you?

Yes just started - refresh the page...

[satukata]

Due to tv rights No for FINISH people!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Due to tv rights No for FINISH people!!

Strange ! :eek:

They are interviewing VW mechanics now ...

[bluuford]

Weather update:
It looks like it was yesterday. Still around 6km in Turini should be snow and other parts very wet.

[Bartek]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/1535027_10152371044658243_872932691_n.jpg Come on, I can't wait :)

[stefanvv]

Bring it on final day & the night Turini live :bounce: I hope this year traffic will not be a problem and stage o be cancelled.

[noel157]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvRS9-85XJs

Ogier was lucky (again) @ 40 secs. Another metre wider and it was bye bye. Fortune favours the brave?
What do you expect with slicks on slush?

Caution?
It was just an observation and if Ogier had gone off I wouldn't expect him to say what you've just said.

[Bartek]

1/2 SS12 23.40km Wet road for 9km. Slush next 2km then 3km solid snow up & over Col de Turini, 2km more slush then wet for 8km.

SS13 16.55km Very fast wide road - wet throughout, low cloud in places makes visibility tough. Straightforward compared to prev though.

From Twitter

[satukata]

any live ss streams today?

[Astro83]

this will be very interesting!

Col de Turini as it should be, it can be some changes to the overall leaderbord!

But I think the top 3 will stay were they are.

[Francis44]

Nice little spy work from the M-sport guy there in the stream :D.

[noel157]

Winter tyres all round for Citroen. Imagine other teams will go that way too. Wonder what's in the boot?

[A FONDO]

Ogier was lucky (again) @ 40 secs. Another metre wider and it was bye bye. Fortune favours the brave?
What do you expect with slicks on slush?

Caution?

coution wont help you win the rally when you are one and a half minutes behind. bow down to Ogy for his effort that ended successfully

[danon]

mad day ahead... surprise, surprise...

[Astro83]

No one goes with 2 studs????? :O

[Barreis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBvet5mcyyQ

[HaCo]

Questions of the day: how many won't survive? :devil: :angryfire

[satukata]

Live tv today?

[Franky]

Live tv today?

In BT Sport 2 schedule there's Live World Rally Championship
http://sport.bt.com/watch-now-01363810618853#!

[Astro83]

Live tv today?

In BT Sport 2 schedule there's Live World Rally Championship
http://sport.bt.com/watch-now-01363810618853#!

What stages? times? :)

[Mihai]

Questions of the day: how many won't survive? :devil: :angryfire

Let's have a 'First-to-crash-today' Pickems game :)

I would put my money on JML to get crash while pushing for stage wins today.

[Bartek]

Sport+ France = SS13 from 15:25

http://nowwatchtvlive.com/2013/05/sport ... el-online/ (http://nowwatchtvlive.com/2013/05/sport-france-live-stream-watch-sport-france-football-channel-online/)

Is it worth to install this plugin??

[dimviii]

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nice photo
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[stefanvv]

Caution?
It was just an observation and if Ogier had gone off I wouldn't expect him to say what you've just said.
I think he is cautios enough, when you see wide corner in these conditions you use every meter of it to keep good momentum and as much speed as possible. Did you notice Hirvonen almost gone off after the corner, being cautious before it? For me that was bigger risk.
If is strechy word... With many 'if' Loeb wouldn't be 9 time champion ;)

[dimviii]

too much snow! :bounce: :bounce:
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[Francis44]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/q79/s720x720/1010646_10152128826322829_784465222_n.jpg


Not good, few hours before stage starts and looks like spectators are having problems arriving at their chosen spots.

[stefanvv]

I really hope spectators don't create mess

[noel157]

Caution?
It was just an observation and if Ogier had gone off I wouldn't expect him to say what you've just said.
I think he is cautios enough, when you see wide corner in these conditions you use every meter of it to keep good momentum and as much speed as possible. Did you notice Hirvonen almost gone off after the corner, being cautious before it? For me that was bigger risk.
If is strechy word... With many 'if' Loeb wouldn't be 9 time champion ;)

But isn't that the difference between Loeb and Ogier? Loeb was actually a cautious driver, just that his level of safe driving was on a different level to anybody else. He didn't take risks, he didn't need to 99% of the time.
As said earlier Ogier is a more entertaining driver because of his driving style. And long may that last, great to watch. He didn't need to go that wide on that particular hairpin with almost no traction. But as I said before, it was only an observation.

[Bartek]

http://instagram.com/p/jT6keOvXc1/ 40 minutes from start it looks amazing

[noel157]

60 mins ago. Just before the top of Turini from Seb Marshall (Barrable ice crew):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeQnGuxIYAAEFcY.jpg

[stefanvv]

Caution?
It was just an observation and if Ogier had gone off I wouldn't expect him to say what you've just said.
I think he is cautios enough, when you see wide corner in these conditions you use every meter of it to keep good momentum and as much speed as possible. Did you notice Hirvonen almost gone off after the corner, being cautious before it? For me that was bigger risk.
If is strechy word... With many 'if' Loeb wouldn't be 9 time champion ;)

But isn't that the difference between Loeb and Ogier? Loeb was actually a cautious driver, just that his level of safe driving was on a different level to anybody else. He didn't take risks, he didn't need to 99% of the time.
As said earlier Ogier is a more entertaining driver because of his driving style. And long may that last, great to watch. He didn't need to go that wide on that particular hairpin with almost no traction. But as I said before, it was only an observation.
It is true that Loeb was more cautious probably, most of the time he didn't have to take many risks, because didn't need to. But circumstances on first day was such that some risks were necessary, otherwise Ogier might be merely 3rd/4th right now. It is driving on the limit and beyond that makes the win in such Rallies and that's why it is such great sport.

[stefanvv]

Drivers must put their spikes on (at least 2), that is lot of snow, and increasing...

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1/q84/s720x720/1536713_604680106265467_1923852197_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 5215_o.jpg (https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1502718_477312362373948_1705015215_o.jpg)
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 9575_o.jpg (https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1008237_10202198895405749_2106459575_o.jpg)

[noel157]

Well, I agree on that's it's a great sport. Let's leave it at that, got a rally to follow in 30 mins...:)

Citroen rubber:

Ready to go... 4 Pilot Alpin 4 with studs and 2 Pilot Alpin 4 without studs for both crews..

[Juha_Koo]

Things should get interesting... :D

[sindroms]

I have a little mess in my mind today... Col de Turini is in SS12/14, right? Which stages will be broadcasted live - SS13/SS15? Pls help me sort out :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier on studs...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeQ79etIYAAQ6mP.jpg

[dimviii]

It is true that Loeb was more cautious probably, most of the time he didn't have to take many risks, because didn't need to.

he wasn t more cautious,he could drive at 100% inside the road.And of course he had to take risks.Gronholm,Mc Rae Sainz,Solberg,Hirvonnen at his days wasn t easy to be faster from them without risks.
Except if Neuville who hasn t finished Monte,private Bouffier with mimimum test,Kubica at his first wrc drive,and Osberg needs more risks......
Ogier is best,but the perfection of Loeb nobody can say that has reached ,at least now.

[A FONDO]

I have a little mess in my mind today... Col de Turini is in SS12/14, right? Which stages will be broadcasted live - SS13/SS15? Pls help me sort out :D
13&15. one hour left

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This is why..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeQ4voGIYAIcUEi.jpg

[Juha_Koo]

I'm sorry, but now I have to ask... Streams?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

M-Sport : With full snow on higher ground, what would you choose? All our crews have gone for 4 studded tyres.… :disturb:

[sindroms]

I have a little mess in my mind today... Col de Turini is in SS12/14, right? Which stages will be broadcasted live - SS13/SS15? Pls help me sort out :D
13&15. one hour left

It means - no live coverage from "Col de Turini"?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm sorry, but now I have to ask... Streams?

6 here: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?mat ... art=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=240085&part=sports)

[Francis44]

If Ogier is the only one on studs then he has the win in the bag. I hope the other guys are on studs too, maybe they can put some pressure on him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MICHELIN Motorsport :

Tyres information: All drivers : 4 Alpin with studs + 2 Alpin no studs. Evans : 4 Alpin with studs + 2 Super Soft

[greencroft]

Do the modern studded tyres have any stud retention problems? I remember that as a problem in years gone by - if there was much wet tarmac for a stretch before the snow started, then many of the studs would be lost before the car got to the snow. Possibly a bigger problem on the second run when the studded tyres have done more miles?

[stefanvv]

I have a little mess in my mind today... Col de Turini is in SS12/14, right? Which stages will be broadcasted live - SS13/SS15? Pls help me sort out :D
100% right, no live Col de Turini :( I would prefer that one.
SS12 starts live 15:30 CET on BT Sport 2 - for those without AceStream player - http://www.hqsport.tv/bt_sport2.php

[dimviii]

Do the modern studded tyres have any stud retention problems? I remember that as a problem in years gone by - if there was much wet tarmac for a stretch before the snow started, then many of the studs would be lost before the car got to the snow. Possibly a bigger problem on the second run when the studded tyres have done more miles?

that was mainly problem at Michelins because of the way they installed spikes at tyre.Pirelli were much more resistant to this problem because spikes were installed to tyres at their manufacture.Michelin installed spikes after the manufacture of tyre.

watch a huge cut from Mikko at 1,42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuFAHB0MhNU

[MartijnS]

http://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/282944_10202198895405749_2106459575_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

"Latest report from Turini - 32cm of fresh snow on top and still snowing!!!"

[Astro83]

"Latest report from Turini - 32cm of fresh snow on top and still snowing!!!"


:o This will be so so cool... It will happen some stuff there!

I really hope Bryan and Kris stay cool now!

[N.O.T]

everyone will have the same tyres with such conditions.....nothing can change on speed alone now...only a mistake or mechanical will change things.

[satukata]

I hope good times for Finish drivers on snow!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Turini:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRDnv2IQAA4nxP.jpg

[stefanvv]

everyone will have the same tyres with such conditions.....nothing can change on speed alone now...only a mistake or mechanical will change things.
Yeah, anyway later starting will benefit a little of cleaner road

[satukata]

Turini looks GREAT!!

[er88]

Man im worried for Kris, hope he can hold on and get his first wrc podium :bounce:

As for the rest of the drivers i wish them good luck- going to be mayhem on the col !!

[satukata]

splits working in citroens page, but not in WRC.com :rolleyes:

[noel157]

Man im worried for Kris, hope he can hold on and get his first wrc podium :bounce:

As for the rest of the drivers i wish them good luck- going to be mayhem on the col !!

Nothing to worry about.

[dimviii]

guys can you see splits?

[Astro83]

Man im worried for Kris, hope he can hold on and get his first wrc podium :bounce:

As for the rest of the drivers i wish them good luck- going to be mayhem on the col !!

I'm a bit nervous now too but I think that he will stay cool and take the car to the finish. I do not think that Östberg will push and threat Meeks 3th place??

But plz, hold on to your 3th place Meeke!!!

[dimviii]

splits working in citroens page, but not in WRC.com :rolleyes:

now they work at wrc site

[satukata]

guys can you see splits?
http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-re ... plit&car=1 (http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=6715&idEpr=SS12&typf=split&car=1)

allready 3 splits time citroen and only 1 wrc. wrc is very slow

[noel157]

guys can you see splits?
http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-re ... plit&car=1 (http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=6715&idEpr=SS12&typf=split&car=1)

allready 3 splits time citroen and only 1 wrc. wrc is very slow

But no + or - on differences at splits as before.

[dimviii]

thanks satukata!

[satukata]

Mikko over 3 s faster in 1st split than evans!! go mikko!

[stefanvv]

guys can you see splits?
http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-re ... plit&car=1 (http://www.citroenracing.com/en/live-results/?id=6715&idEpr=SS12&typf=split&car=1)

allready 3 splits time citroen and only 1 wrc. wrc is very slow

But no + or - on differences at splits as before.
Ogier is the mark :D Still not started

[jonkka]

Any announcement yet as to which stage is Power Stage?

[satukata]

thanks satukata!
You can press the name of the driver in citroens splitpage and get split times from that driver vs others

[dimviii]

Latvala fast

[dimviii]

at French forum said that snow at road is 8 km

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good splits for Mikko & Jarmo so far, 17.5s on Mikkelsen and 16.9s on Evans..

[stefanvv]

Melicharek's time for 3rd and 4th split is ~5:30 mins, must be slippery :)

[jonkka]

Panizzi drives 0-car!

[shaperzrally]

Any announcement yet as to which stage is Power Stage?
According to the regulations the PS is always the last stage on every WRC rally

[stefanvv]

Hirvonen wins split 3 so far

[Astro83]

We will see if Hirvonen can catch Evans today.

[jparker]

In this conditions, the road can very easily get blocked. I hope it doesn't.

[jonkka]

According to the regulations the PS is always the last stage on every WRC rally

Monte is always an exception. Seriously, RG2 says that PS will be decided together with broadcaster and communicated with bulletin. I haven't yet seen such a bulletin.

[satukata]

Go Mikko :D

[jparker]

The Finns are giving us some Sweden preview :D

[stefanvv]

Meeke gone crazy on slit 3

[Astro83]

Good and steady splits from Meeke!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikko after SS12 : "There's so much snow in some places that the studs are not enough..."

[er88]

Meeke on split 3 :bounce:

[dupanton]

As I understand it, it is mainly a lot of water, with only a few kilometers with snow... Maybe 4xsnow without and 2x snow with studs would have been better... What a pity there is nobody who took a gamble... Like Bouffier, he has not much to lose imo...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRKlvmIIAExRVt.jpg

[stefanvv]

Ogier at Turini:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRKlvmIIAExRVt.jpg

[Astro83]

Great with these uploads of "live" pics!! :D

looks great!

[Astro83]

Great stage from Bouffier!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke 19:36.4: "...the snow over the top was beautiful... it's what it's all about...awesome...as a young boy you grow up dreaming of this..." :colour:

[satukata]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRKlvmIIAExRVt.jpg
any more live picks? :)

[stefanvv]

Latvala, Bouffier & Ogier almost equal times :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS12
Ogier
Latvala +0.3
Bouffier +0.8
Meeke +7.5
Mikko +29.3
Ostberg +31.9
Evans +46.6
Mikkeslen +57.7

[GINE]

Any free live streaming?

[WUff1]

Strong finish of Bouffy!

[Astro83]

Hirvonen will easy take over Evans 6th place before the finish if Hirvonen not do any mistakes...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): Driving in the slush was difficult, when you leave the two tarmac lines, you are in the wall. But lot of spectators, I enjoyed that... :lips:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Any free live streaming?

Here: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?mat ... art=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=240085&part=sports)

[Astro83]

BT sport 2 NOW LIVE!! :D

[Astro83]

google BT sport 2 livestream!

www.timefortv.com (http://www.timefortv.com)

[txl]

More streams:
http://www.stopstream.tv/10-motorsports.html

[noel157]

Just wet on Sospel or any snow? Not sure how high it is.

[Astro83]

Just wet on Sospel or any snow?


Just wet all the way what commentators say!

[WUff1]

So probably now two winter tyres and two studs.

[Astro83]

So probably now two winter tyres and two studs.


yepp

[Francis44]

Mikkelsen all over the place, must be the studs.

[stefanvv]

Only Evans has 2 super softs instead winter

[Astro83]

whats up with some dumb spectators??!

Staying on the road? stupid fucks.. :eek:

[Astro83]

whats up with some dumb spectators??!

Staying on the road? stupid fucks.. :eek:


Did you see when Latvala passed a right hander, they stupid fucks was on the road.... Are they willing to die?

[denkimi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBMtC9OMsoM

ogier once again very lucky.

[EightGear]

Quite a boring stage TBH.

[stefanvv]

MIkkelsen: we put the studs on the rear for more fun :D

[Astro83]

Hirvonen passes Evans now

[jonkka]

And so he did...

[MartijnS]

Easy stage to cover, I like it. Turini would be cooler, but the hairpins are fun. Good shots of the last part of the stage.

[Astro83]

Meeke is on a role! :D Good job!

[Astro83]

Easy stage to cover, I like it. Turini would be cooler, but the hairpins are fun. Good shots of the last part of the stage.


yea, real fun and good for the sport with more coverage!

[A FONDO]

PK is even more annoying now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Go Meeke !!

[Astro83]

Im so proud! Meeke is doing a fantastic rally!! So glad for him!!!

[stefanvv]

I think tyre choice for second pass will be different because of PS.

[satukata]

Good live TV hope More!!

[Astro83]

real good live tv! real good for wrc/sport. Is this redbull media house broadcast and will this continue for the rest of the season???

[er88]

Bluuford - are we expecting more snow or less snow on the turini stage tonight :) ??

[GallardoGT]

Im so proud! Meeke is doing a fantastic rally!! So glad for him!!!
And that after her had to promote himself in a Continental GT speed at the RAC rally, the BentleyBoy :cool:

[noel157]

real good live tv! real good for wrc/sport. Is this redbull media house broadcast and will this continue for the rest of the season???

Yes, Redbull production. More? Who knows?

[Astro83]

Im so proud! Meeke is doing a fantastic rally!! So glad for him!!!
And that after her had to promote himself in a Continental GT speed at the RAC rally, the BentleyBoy :cool:

Hehe Yes, but that was a awesome ride! ;)

[Astro83]

real good live tv! real good for wrc/sport. Is this redbull media house broadcast and will this continue for the rest of the season???

Yes, Redbull production. More? Who knows?


Okey, and then, this is exactly what this sport needs!! This part, Redbull is right spot on!

great! :)

[Kielder]

Fingers crossed for Meeke's first WRC podium.

[stefanvv]

I think RedBull were promising at least 26 live stages this year, if I remember right.

[Francis44]

Fun Fact: If Ogier wins today he becomes a driver with a win in every WRC stable rally in the calendar.

[Astro83]

I think RedBull were promising at least 26 live stages this year, if I remember right.

Okey, the bad thing is that they not promote this very well. All their live coverage would be easy to find on wrc.com or on a special page and that they promote it on wrc.com and in other national rally medias!

But it maybe will come later on.

[Kielder]

Fun Fact: If Ogier wins today he is becomes the driver with a win in every WRC stable rally in the calendar.

Well, Ogier and Ingrassia already won Monte in 2009. By the way, a much better edition than this one.

[dupanton]

Was I the only one with no decently working stream? It stopped every few seconds here...

[WUff1]

Fingers crossed also for Bouffier´s first podium in WRC.

[Francis44]

Fun Fact: If Ogier wins today he is becomes the driver with a win in every WRC stable rally in the calendar.

Well, Ogier and Ingrassia already won Monte in 2009. By the way, a much better edition than this one.

Indeed, but it was IRC.

[Astro83]

Was I the only one with no decently working stream? It stopped every few seconds here...

My worked just fine, use my link next time then? try them all now before next stage so you see which work best!

[RS]

I think RedBull were promising at least 26 live stages this year, if I remember right.

I guess it will be the powerstage at each rally, and the first running of that stage too.

[jonkka]

Fun Fact: If Ogier wins today he becomes a driver with a win in every WRC stable rally in the calendar.

He hasn't won Argentina (nor Poland).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bouffy on Turini:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRaAUoCEAAM8fN.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRaAUoCEAAM8fN.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Live interviews now - http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[Astro83]

im really love this new livestream!!! so so great! It really feels so much greater to follow each event! :bounce: :bounce:

[Francis44]

Fun Fact: If Ogier wins today he becomes a driver with a win in every WRC stable rally in the calendar.

He hasn't won Argentina (nor Poland).

You are right, let's see if he wins them this tear, although Poland is not a regular WRC round.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hopeless girl interviewer for WRC.com hasnt got a clue and doesnt even get priority with the drivers ! :laugh:

[shaperzrally]

Was I the only one with no decently working stream? It stopped every few seconds here...
Same here... :(

[Sulland]

Too much water between the boats now, drivers just trying to keep status quo, now that Hirvonen passed Evans.

Not very exiting for the finish of the rally!

[bowie]

Hopeless girl interviewer for WRC.com hasnt got a clue and doesnt even get priority with the drivers ! :laugh:

Ha. She didn't even know who Julien Ingrassia was !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke on Turini:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRjvnCCIAEseWg.jpg

[smsgrafica]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20140118-9669-low-VW-WRC-2014-01-DR1-1848.jpg

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20140118-9671-low-VW-WRC-2014-01-DR1-1863.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML on SS12 - great pic :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRjh0WCcAEUwbi.jpg:large

[COD]

Mikko over 3 s faster in 1st split than evans!! go mikko!

Seriously? That is something to be happy about? Have you not noticed, that overall Bouffier in private Fiesta is over 6MINS ahead?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Time for my dinner I think ... :lips:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeRrYrPIgAAOAkP.jpg

[Astro83]

Would love to join them at the table :D

[dimviii]

anybody interest about a i20 bumper?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1425585_10202144385663913_284046283_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

anybody interest about a i20 bumper?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1425585_10202144385663913_284046283_n.jpg
Isn't that too early to sell everythink :) I know Monte was dissapointing, but....

Good video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IitXiMT3op8

[Francis44]

anybody interest about a i20 bumper?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q71/s720x720/1425585_10202144385663913_284046283_n.jpg

For 1€ I guess I take it.

[dimviii]

http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/mon ... 060640.jpg (http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2014/post-131-0-03350400-1390060640.jpg)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x60 ... 0/z1gv.jpg (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/560/z1gv.jpg)
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/1201 ... 8f95_b.jpg (http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5525/12010334566_c798ce8f95_b.jpg)
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3701/1200 ... 4f3d_b.jpg (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3701/12009803093_b2cc724f3d_b.jpg)
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/1200 ... 4235_b.jpg (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/12009875004_b1a7734235_b.jpg)

[stefanvv]

Another video spam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NebDrdqnog

[WUff1]

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/560/z1gv.jpg

MW speaking with Bouffier about a deal with M-Sport? ;)

[stefanvv]

MW speaking with Bouffier about a deal with M-Sport? ;)
He mentioned yesterday they were not talking about the car :rolleyes: , after another discussion in service park :rolleyes:

[stefanvv]

Quite some spectators effort:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VuoI3irngQ

[WUff1]

Stage 15 live on TV again: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?mat ... art=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=240087&part=sports)

[stefanvv]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140118/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140118-9665_v01.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140118/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140118-9666.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140118/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140118-9667.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140118/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140118-9663.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Monte%20Carlo/Berichterstattung/2014/20140118/Galerie_des_Tages/886x498px_vw-20140118-9664.jpg

[Astro83]

BT 2 this time to??

[stefanvv]

BT 2 this time to??
BT 1, 9PM CET

[GallardoGT]

Stage 15 live on TV again: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?mat ... art=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=240087&part=sports)
Wuff, Wuff, Wuff :dog: :dog: :dog:

[bluuford]

sry iwas away.. ofcourse more snow for turini:) much more:) and rain for the rest..

[MikeD]

Come on Bouffier ... make a surprise for the history books .... :p

[Astro83]

Go Meeke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce:

[danon]

@michelin_sport: #tyre information: Citroën/Ford 4studs2snow - - Ogier 3snow3studs -Mikkelsen 4snow2studs - Latvala 6snow #wrc #rallyemontecarlo