Remember turning right at Indy?

[call_me_andrew]

I think they made it worse.

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[garyshell]

Why do you think it is worse? The drivers thus far seem to think its better.

Gary

[pcal226]

Have any of them besides Sato ever even raced the old road course?

[call_me_andrew]

Why do you think it is worse? The drivers thus far seem to think its better.

Gary

It's worse because they're using the snake pit when we know the cars are fully capable of surviving an oval turn.

[garyshell]

They are using one of the oval turns. But is a car set up for a road course capable of surviving TWO successive oval turns. Honest question. Not trying to stir things up.

Gary

[nigelred5]

Why would it be any different. it's the same dang car with different wings? Same undertray, same sidepods, probably smaller radiators, but it's not like days of old where the car is stripped to the tub and totally different from there out.

Looking at the video of TK driving the course, I don't see that they are using any of the oval turns. They changed the north infield section, revised the turn behind the museum, then use the F1 entry to the short chute, then a variation of the Moto GP turns inside of turn 1. Actually looks a lot quicker everywhere except using the MotoGP infield section.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZg3eqNg1BY

[garyshell]

I've never seen any info on how different (or similar) the road course setup is vs the oval setup, hence my question.

The map in the first post of this thread shows them using all of turn two of the oval course and a portion of turn one. Not sure how much of turn one as the map doesn't appear to be to scale.

Gary

[nigelred5]

It's not to scale that's for sure. Watch the video I linked. You can see they use the same infield track, not the oval turn two. The short straight ends probably 20-30yards short of rejoining the backstretch at the exit of oval turn 2. They use none of oval turn 1. They enter the infield section off of the short chute and re-enter the oval right at pit out where MotoGP leaves the frontstraight. Honestly, the map they used doesn't quite match up to the video they have shown on the IMSwebsite

[nigelred5]

you can see how they altered the roadcourse turn 1 from the F1 track.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3799/10025055134_e4860592af_c.jpg

[Doc Austin]

I don't know why they had to put in the mickey mouse section between oval turns one and two. The whole idea of racing at Indianapolis is speed, so why go to such effort to slow the cars down? If they got a flat run through the short section and oval turn one, they would be flat hauling the mail by the time they got to road course turn one.