2013 Finale. Brazilian GP Thread

[steveaki13]

So here it comes the last race of a mediocre season, but Brazil is often a fun race.

So what can we expect for Brazil. Any thoughts?

Oh yer













a Vettel win. :D

[webberf1]

Apart from Vettel's car contracting mechanised syphilis... I guess on-off rain would spice up the prospects for an entertaining race.

[555-04Q2]

Another great race from a great circuit, and a shock win for Webber in his last race!

[Mia 01]

No win for Mark, RBR want Seb to get 13 wins in a season that so he beats Schumi to the most wins in one season.

[555-04Q2]

No win for Mark, RBR want Seb to get 13 wins in a season that so he beats Schumi to the most wins in one season.

He would tie The Shoe, not beat him ;)

[henners88]

I've changed my mind about watching the race as I feel I want to see Webber's final race in F1. Vettel will undoubtedly walk it and the team will intensify the imaginary hardship it took to win the race, but hey. We have 5 months off then and with any luck we'll have a more exciting 2014. They say we have a dull season every 10 years and this has been just that.

[Big Ben]

He would tie The Shoe, not beat him ;)

details... Alonso tied with Hamilton at McLaren and yet everyone knows the Brit beat the living days out of him

[henners88]

[quote="555-04Q2":2vw3anry]
He would tie The Shoe, not beat him ;)

details... Alonso tied with Hamilton at McLaren and yet everyone knows the Brit beat the living days out of him[/quote:2vw3anry]
He didn't beat the living daylights out of him but he did beat him over all, so lets not go too over board. ;)

[555-04Q2]

[quote="555-04Q2":10sn4vdn]
He would tie The Shoe, not beat him ;)

details... Alonso tied with Hamilton at McLaren and yet everyone knows the Brit beat the living days out of him[/quote:10sn4vdn]

How does 13 vs 13 make one a winner and one a loser? You been tippling there old man? :p:

[Wasted Talent]

Last race for the V8s - we will miss that sound....

WT

[jens]

[quote="Big Ben":om7pgnb3][quote="555-04Q2":om7pgnb3]
He would tie The Shoe, not beat him ;)

details... Alonso tied with Hamilton at McLaren and yet everyone knows the Brit beat the living days out of him[/quote:om7pgnb3]

How does 13 vs 13 make one a winner and one a loser? You been tippling there old man? :p:[/quote:om7pgnb3]

In 2004 there were 18 races in the season, now 19. So actually Schumacher would be the "winner" in this comparison.

[555-04Q2]

In 2004 there were 18 races in the season, now 19. So actually Schumacher would be the "winner" in this comparison.

Exactly my train of thought as well, but I didn't bother posting it :)

[Mia 01]

details... Alonso tied with Hamilton at McLaren and yet everyone knows the Brit beat the living days out of him[/quote]

How does 13 vs 13 make one a winner and one a loser? You been tippling there old man? :p:[/quote]

In 2004 there were 18 races in the season, now 19. So actually Schumacher would be the "winner" in this comparison.[/quote]


OK then. If so I anticipate that Seb wants to beat the record next year with 14 wins. :angryfire

Let him win this one this year please.

[555-04Q2]

Webber will win this race ;)

[Big Ben]

I hope Vettel wins all races next season

[henners88]

I hope Vettel wins all races next season
I think he will! :p

[555-04Q2]

I hope Vettel wins all races next season
I think he will! :p

You guys are :crazy: :p: :D

[Mia 01]

I hope Vettel wins all races next season
I think he will! :p


He he. Ofcourse he will, it will be unbeatable in the record books. Dr Marko likes, very muchasherops.

[zako85]

Why doesn't qualifying session show up on NBCs channel listings? Why am I the only one upset about this?

[longisland]

My wish list
Webber to win
Massa win or podium
Perez or Di Resta podium
Marussia or Caterham to score a point

[zako85]

It seems like CNBC added a listing for qualifying today. It wasn't there last night.

[zako85]

My wish list
Webber to win
Massa win or podium
Perez or Di Resta podium
Marussia or Caterham to score a point


That would be a nice Cinderella end to a moribund championship.

[Tazio]

Revealing words from Fred about the particulars of this type of race: Sometimes he reminds me of Prost.

Fernando Alonso: "It’s always hard to get much running when it rains here, as the level of water on track is never consistent and can affect lap times by two to three seconds. Each time you go off the racing line you then have to try and understand the track conditions at that precise moment, because there are no absolute values. But given that the forecast for the weekend is similar to today’s, we can say that, even if it was short, it was a good practice. Qualifying and the race will be very complicated from the strategy point of view and, on that front this evening we will have to come up with a good plan. To do well here, you also need a bit of luck, because in conditions like this, being in the right place at the right time is always a help."

[Tazio]

This evening we will try and evaluate our performance as well as possible compared to the opposition and will prepare to get everything out of the car both in qualifying and the race." :erm:
:sailor: Guess who? :angel:

[airshifter]

Why doesn't qualifying session show up on NBCs channel listings? Why am I the only one upset about this?


Zako85,

For me locally the coverage will be on CNBC rather than MSNBC. It's rather crazy, the coverage can be on any of the NBC networks. I've taken a cue from some here and search for some of the Spanish language channels as well sometimes as the coverage and camera angles aren't always the same. Hope you catch it in time for qually.



As for the race, not the best track for a season ending race IMO. Though the track has character, it lacks in natural (non DRS) passing opportunities.

I'm not expecting Vettel to back off for Mark, so Seb should take the win. It would be great to see Mark make the podium, but once again with this track sometimes it can be a roll of the dice. Overall I think as usual the better drivers will rise to the top, but if it's wet some of them will end up off track before the end.

[Tazio]

Lewis Hamilton:
Rain will ruin my hopes of Brazil victory

He doesnt look to be too confident....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/25060786
Dude, what's bro up with The Boss?


"I'm struggling just to keep it on the track for some reason

Probably another chassis crack. :angel:

Hopefully he will have it sorted out for the race.

http://i.imgur.com/Tu1E6jE.jpg

[N4D13]

Someone needs to say this: how many spins will Massa perform in front of his home crowd in his Ferrari swansong? :P

[Tazio]

Should be an interesting quali with the wet conditions, it could be a very mixed up grid methinks.
Any of ya''awl gurlz watching? :angel:

[Tazio]

The Boss Looks mighty!

[AndyL]

They're saying full wets for q3.

More likely they'll keep the red flag out until it's intermediate conditions again :mad: Why do they even bother making full-wet tyres?


Edit: no idea how this post has appeared before the one I replied to! :crazy:

[Tazio]

Clutch lap by JEV in worsening conditions to get into q2

[Koz]

5 minutes!

[Koz]

I can't see my own post?!

[Koz]

I see the last post was by me, but I don't see it. What gives??

Can anyone see??

[Tazio]

Scary hit by Checo, hope he's ok :eek:

[rjbetty]

[quote="Mr Alcatraz":2o08hwpc]Proper wets for q3 has Fred's name written all over it. He saved inters though and he would have an advantage with new rubber IIRC.

Safety car on track. I just realized that we (q3) have been delayed.

Third 10 minute delay :dozey:[/quote:2o08hwpc]

Oh dear, I've long dreaded the day when all wet-weather running is banned - as in cricket...

Sad to see it is unfolding before our eyes.

[Tazio]

They're saying full wets for q3.

[Tazio]

Proper wets for q3 has Fred's name written all over it. He saved inters though and he would have an advantage with new rubber IIRC.

Safety car on track. I just realized that we (q3) have been delayed.

Third 10 minute delay :dozey:

[Tazio]

Is this site working yet!
I didn't see eitherAndy, rj or koz's posts Now I've been getting a message for over the last 1/2hour that says I can't post so soon. hmmm, odd... Mark?

[Tazio]

[quote="Mr Alcatraz":hu2cnacw]Proper wets for q3 has Fred's name written all over it. He saved inters though and he would have an advantage with new rubber IIRC.

Safety car on track. I just realized that we (q3) have been delayed.

Third 10 minute delay :dozey:

Oh dear, I've long dreaded the day when all wet-weather running is banned - as in cricket...

Sad to see it is unfolding before our eyes.[/quote:hu2cnacw]
In deed!

[easy rider]

Oh dear, I've long dreaded the day when all wet-weather running is banned - as in cricket...

Sad to see it is unfolding before our eyes.


It's better to have qualifying or a race delayed, because of pouring rain, rather than a driver become seriousy injured by crashing.

Brazil has history of creating havoc when it rains very heavily. The 1993 race had no loss the spectacle of cars spinning dangerously on the straight, during a downpour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4hOmp2bms

[rjbetty]

Oh dear, I've long dreaded the day when all wet-weather running is banned - as in cricket...

Sad to see it is unfolding before our eyes.


It's better to have qualifying or a race delayed, because of pouring rain, rather than a driver become seriousy injured by crashing.

Brazil has history of creating havoc when it rains very heavily. The 1993 race had no loss the spectacle of cars spinning dangerously on the straight, during a downpour.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd4hOmp2bms

I know what you mean, and safety really is the most important thing. But then do they HAVE to suck EVERY bit of of fun and variety out of F1?

[tjoepie]

So how much would you guys attribute Vettel's amazing qualifying to Vettel and how much to Red Bull? An honest question, because I was always told that rain is a great equaliser of cars...

[steveaki13]

Whats up with this thread? :p

I was reading posts that didn't make sense, then about 5 posts later reading the post to which the previous was replying too.

Answers before questions. Spooky. :eek: :crazy:

[steveaki13]

Brilliant lap by Seb for pole, do we know if he just backed off on his final run, because he was up in the first two sectors, but then didn't improve.

[zako85]

So how much would you guys attribute Vettel's amazing qualifying to Vettel and how much to Red Bull? An honest question, because I was always told that rain is a great equaliser of cars...


That's a centuries old question :laugh:

[Tazio]

[quote="Mr Alcatraz":3bemug07]Proper wets for q3 has Fred's name written all over it. He saved inters though and he would have an advantage with new rubber IIRC.

Safety car on track. I just realized that we (q3) have been delayed.

Third 10 minute delay :dozey:

Oh dear, I've long dreaded the day when all wet-weather running is banned - as in cricket...

Sad to see it is unfolding before our eyes.[/quote:3bemug07]
They are currently predicting rain for the start of the race. I really hope it isn't a safety car start, unless the rivers running across the track are very prominent. :angryfire

[Tazio]

Live webcam from Sao Paulo (not sure how close tis is ti interlagos). It's still dry 1 hour and 45 mins before the start of the race.

http://www.earthcam.com/search/ft_searc ... IL&x=0&y=0 (http://www.earthcam.com/search/ft_search.php?s1=1&term=Sao%20Paulo%2C+BRAZIL&x=0&y=0)

[steveaki13]

F1 has had many wet starts in the last 20 years, and yet more and more we have SC starts. Its rubbish. These drivers should be good enough to start in the wet.

I know people will claim safety, but I don't buy it that there is more chance of injury in a wet start compared to 10 years ago.

[Tazio]

@Steve. I agree with you but interlagos has that situation where heavy streams cause it practically impossible to stay on track. I can't remember what year it was but several cars slid off at the same turn several years back. Have they improved the drainage at that corner since?

[longisland]

Great! One of my prayers answered. We have a dry start with almost certain raining later. Let's hope we can get a decent race after putting up with those Tilke dome processions.

[steveaki13]

@Steve. I agree with you but interlagos has that situation where heavy streams cause it practically impossible to stay on track. I can't remember what year it was but several cars slid off at the same turn several years back. Have they improved the drainage at that corner since?

That was 2003 when Fisi won in the Jordan.

I was under the impression they had done a bit of work on that although the drainage is still not great.

[steveaki13]

Anyway evening peeeeeeeeps

[Tazio]

Top o the morning boyz, and gurlz. :angel:
They just showed fred giving Mark a big hug on the grid before he got into his car.

[lucybrazil]

hello all, first time poster here- did i actually glimpse Jack Roush in his customary hat in the RBR team box yesterday, or was that somebody else?

[Tazio]

@Steve. I agree with you but interlagos has that situation where heavy streams cause it practically impossible to stay on track. I can't remember what year it was but several cars slid off at the same turn several years back. Have they improved the drainage at that corner since?

That was 2003 when Fisi won in the Jordan.

That's right, as a side note the chasis he drove to that win was the modified Jordan I got to ride in at Austin last year.

http://i.imgur.com/y7Ln61U.jpg

[N4D13]

Just arrived. Is rain expected during the race? I'm surprised to see that the start is going to be dry...

[steveaki13]

Poor Grosjean, but cracking circuit and cracking racing. Good stuff

[lucybrazil]

hello! yes, our weather forecast says there's a 90% chance of rain for são paulo today- then again, let's hope it will be evening rain!!! (tough many posters may be rooting for rain) :P

[Tazio]

They're saying maybe rain in about 45 minutes.

[donKey jote]

morning gurlz :wave: :bandit: :D

[steveaki13]

Red Bull pace. Wow

[steveaki13]

A bit late Donkey.

[N4D13]

Thank you for the forecast, guys/gals/whatevers! :)

[Tazio]

Donks!@!!!
Fred down to third :angel:

[donKey jote]

A bit late Donkey.
yep, but just in time for the Merc team orders :p

[N4D13]

This is probably going to be a borefest till the end of the race - unless it rains. Where is Bruno Senna when you need him? :stareup:

[Tazio]

Feiipe baby :D

[steveaki13]

Been exciting so far though. Mercs v Ferrari and Webbo passing everyone.

And can Seb lap most of the field.

[N4D13]

Been exciting so far though. Mercs v Ferrari and Webbo passing everyone.

And can Seb lap most of the field.
Yes, can't argue with that! But after lap 5 or so, you knew that most positions are going to stay pretty much the same until it started raining. Let's see whether it rains or not because it is the only thing that could shake up the race, although it's looking rather likely.

[steveaki13]

Unlike In the US, we do have some great battling in the midfield.

[N4D13]

Unlike In the US, we do have some great battling in the midfield.
Fair enough! Unfortunately, I usually find it difficult to keep track of most positions so I usually only focus on the top 5 or 6. Can't argue with your opinion though - you do have a good point. :)

It's getting interesting now. When is it going to rain?

[steveaki13]

Jenson going brilliantly. As is Perez. McLaren looking better here.

[steveaki13]

I thought I saw it raining a minute ago, but must have been wrong.

[donKey jote]

I usually find it difficult to keep track of most positions so I usually only focus on the top 5 or 6.

that's where the free F1 LT app comes in very handy ;) :bandit:

[N4D13]

I usually find it difficult to keep track of most positions so I usually only focus on the top 5 or 6.

that's where the free F1 LT app comes in very handy ;) :bandit:
Thank you. I'll keep that in mind for 2014! :laugh:

[donKey jote]

still 40 laps to go in 2013 :p

[donKey jote]

uhoh... Massa for donkey of the race? :dozey:

[donKey jote]

balls :dozey:

[longisland]

The bulls just blitzed everybody! And they're going to penalize Massa. Bummer!

[donKey jote]

poor squiggy

[steveaki13]

An angry Massa in that car.

[truefan72]

thankfully slow man massa went into the pits. all he did was hold hamilton up

[donKey jote]

An angry Massa in that car.
can't blame anyone but himself this time though

[truefan72]

mercedes gambled and lost on their setup. just a fitting conclusion to a year of poor strategy decisions

[Koz]

An angry Massa in that car.
can't blame anyone but himself this time though

Why?

Whiting said a few races ago he doesn't care about people exceeding track limits, what is so special today?

[donKey jote]

Why?

Whiting said a few races ago he doesn't care about people exceeding track limits, what is so special today?

why? because it wasn't Whiting who drove over the white line ;)

[steveaki13]

I assume drivers were warned about that before hand, because we have never seen that penalised before here.

[donKey jote]

stoopid pirrelli

[donKey jote]

chaos in RB pits :crazy:

[donKey jote]

all he did was hold hamilton up

donkey of the race now goes to... :laugh:

[truefan72]

WTF! bottas!!!

idiot!

[Tazio]

Donkey Bottas, and Red Bul! :laugh:

[truefan72]

all he did was hold hamilton up

donkey of the race now goes to... :laugh:

you think it was hamilton's fault?

last I checked bottas was a lap down and blue flags, then tries an ambitious move on the outside?

give me a break

[steveaki13]

Drive through for Hammy.

[truefan72]

madness

this is ridiculous

absurd!

[donKey jote]

all he did was hold hamilton up

donkey of the race now goes to... :laugh:

you think it was hamilton's fault?

last I checked bottas was a lap down and blue flags, then tries an ambitious move on the outside?

give me a break

blue flags means you're allowed to steer into him?

:bigcry: :laugh:

[N4D13]

That was clearly Hamilton's fault, and that's what happens if you move under braking. It doesn't matter whether Bottas was lapped or not - Lewis should have been cleverer but still chose to drive into Valtteri. That was a totally senseless move.

[steveaki13]

Stupid penalty.

Bottas was at fault 60% for being a lap down and overtaking a leader without care
Hamilton was at fault 40% for moving to the middle of the track and move back in the braking zone.

All in all just move on and call it a racing incident.

[Tazio]

WTF! bottas!!!

idiot!
Pardon me "The Boss" is the donkey (i wouldn't call him an idiot though) sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry :angel:

[Daniel]

Stupid penalty.

Bottas was at fault 60% for being a lap down and overtaking a leader without care
Hamilton was at fault 40% for moving to the middle of the track and move back in the braking zone.

All in all just move on and call it a racing incident.

No, he moved over and hit Bottas, penalty is well deserved. If Hamilton doesn't understand why he got that penalty then he needs to retire and leave the racing to someone who understands the rules.

[donKey jote]

hey bananiel ! :wave: :D

[steveaki13]

Looking at it again Its now 60/40 the other way. More in favour of Hamilton.

[N4D13]

It is true that Bottas should have been cleverer but still, that doesn't make any difference. In the end, Hamilton drove into a car that was overtaking him. That was an utterly dumb move and one that deserves a penalty. Whether it was a car unlapping himself or fighting for position, there is absolutely no reason for driving into someone.

[Daniel]

It is true that Bottas should have been cleverer but still, that doesn't make any difference. In the end, Hamilton drove into a car that was overtaking him. That was an utterly dumb move and one that deserves a penalty. Whether it was a car unlapping himself or fighting for position, there is absolutely no reason for driving into someone.

Exactly! The BBC commentators were saying it was Bottas' fault because he had room, where in the rules does it say you have to yield as long as there's room? Bottas wasn't moving from his line, Hamilton moved onto Bottas' line and the rest is history

[donKey jote]

to be fair, they were only saying he had room, not that it was his fault because of this ;)

[steveaki13]

Even if he deserved the penalty I think Lewis didn't see him so It was not on purpose.

[Daniel]

to be fair, they were only saying he had room, not that it was his fault because of this ;)

They made out that it could only be Hamilton's fault if he had crowded Bottas off the track and when it showed that bottas had room they said it wasn't Lewis' fault :p

[Daniel]

Even if he deserved the penalty I think Lewis didn't see him so It was not on purpose.

Oh that makes it OK then I guess :) Sorry you're dead mate, didn't see you!

[donKey jote]

they never said it was Bottas' though :p

[Daniel]

they never said it was Bottas' though :p

Well whose fault was it going to be then? Flying spaghetti monster? ;)

[donKey jote]

no, nobody's... racing incident caused by Ham :p

[steveaki13]

Even if he deserved the penalty I think Lewis didn't see him so It was not on purpose.

Oh that makes it OK then I guess :) Sorry you're dead mate, didn't see you!

Yep. Sounds fair to me. :rolleyes:

[Daniel]

Even if he deserved the penalty I think Lewis didn't see him so It was not on purpose.

Oh that makes it OK then I guess :) Sorry you're dead mate, didn't see you!

Yep. Sounds fair to me. :rolleyes:

Well it's lucky you're not a steward then I guess :)


no, nobody's... racing incident caused by Ham :p

All accidents caused by Lewis are racing incidents according to his fans ;)

[donKey jote]

All accidents caused by Lewis are racing incidents according to his fans ;)

don't you call me a Ham fan :mad: :andrea:

[donKey jote]

whehey donuts on track from maldonado :p

[Daniel]

All accidents caused by Lewis are racing incidents according to his fans ;)

don't you call me a Ham fan :mad: :andrea:

OK, bacon fan :p

[donKey jote]

OK, bacon fan :p

yep
in a butty with plenty of hp :facelick:

[306maxi]

OK, bacon fan :p

yep
in a butty with plenty of hp :facelick:

Bacon with no sauce for me

[donKey jote]

Vettel should do a Schu and give it to Webbo on the line :p

[steveaki13]

No Luck. He wins number 13.

Great job Seb and Red Bull for a dominant 2013.

[donKey jote]

Massa can't even do donuts properly :laugh:

[lucybrazil]

did you feel the ice between the RBR champs?

[steveaki13]

Massa can't even do donuts properly :laugh:

Didn't see that. What did Felipe do wrong? :)

Let me guess. Rob Smedley didn't tell him how. :D

[lucybrazil]

even with the v8s this girl could hear the crickets, guys! -better luck 4 me next year- :rolleyes:

[steveaki13]

even with the v8s this girl could hear the crickets, guys! -better luck 4 me next year- :rolleyes:

Didn't quite understand that. :)

[Tazio]

I understand you Lucy! :love: :angel:

[lucybrazil]

even with the v8s this girl could hear the crickets, guys! -better luck 4 me next year- :rolleyes:

Didn't quite understand that. :)
haha, it's that no one interacted with me - until now- but to be fair, i was writing DURING the race!

[lucybrazil]

I thought I had glipmsed Jack Roush (??? in formula one?) in his customary hat with the RBR team yesterday, and decided to inquire

[555-04Q2]

Well done Seb. Another dominant display :)

[steveaki13]

even with the v8s this girl could hear the crickets, guys! -better luck 4 me next year- :rolleyes:

Didn't quite understand that. :)
haha, it's that no one interacted with me - until now- but to be fair, i was writing DURING the race!

Sorry Lucy. :( Welcome to the Forums. :wave:

Hope you stick around. :)

[David Lowndes]

I'm so glad this season is over; it was one of the most boring seasons I have had to endure for many years.

Thank goodness they sorted the tyres out so that Red Bull could win every race.....

[555-04Q2]

Welcome Lucy :wave:

[steveaki13]

Have to agree sadly.

Of my 20 odd seasons of watching F1, it will be one of my least enjoyable for more than one reason.

[steveaki13]

I thought I had glipmsed Jack Roush (??? in formula one?) in his customary hat with the RBR team yesterday, and decided to inquire

Not sure. :erm:

Does anyone else know?

[lucybrazil]

thank you guys! i will!

[steveaki13]

thank you guys! i will!

Good.

So who do you follow in F1?

Anyone in particular?

[lucybrazil]

not anyone in particular, but during the season i became a Vettel fan!

[henners88]

I saw the last 11 laps and glad I caught Webber signing off.

[N4D13]

I just read in JA's blog that McLaren has become the only team so far to have both cars classified in every Grand Prix in a season. That's quite a nice record even though it came in such a lacklustre season as this one.

[zako85]

Now that Vettel got 8 consecutive wins, I was actually watching the race with a trepidation wondering if Vettel can win 9th and set a new record. I think today's race showed that even Vettel can't take these wins for granted. The mishap in Red Bull pits was bizarre and I was wondering about engine reliability to the last lap.

[airshifter]

With real rain never coming, it really changed up some strategies. I thought for sure they would at least have to go to intermediates at some point.

Great drive by Seb as usual, with Mark making it to the podium for his final race.

Lewis and Felipe played donkey, though in all fairness I don't see why one particular portion of the track has lines and limits enforced, while other areas don't. There was one corner where Alonso, Perez, Gutierrez and others were going four wheels off on a regular basis.

McLaren must have done something right for a change to have both Button and Perez recover from bad starting positions. Too bad it took them all year to get something right. And I think they are morons for letting go of Checo so quickly.

Ferrari had a good day as well, and even with Felipe's mistake the car setup was obviously better than usual.




And Lucy, welcome to the forums. I didn't see Jack Roush in the pits... but it could have been him.

[Doc Austin]

I think they (McLaren) are morons for letting go of Checo so quickly.

They think that highly of Magnussen, I suppose.

I thought Perez ran well enough and challenged Button enough to have earned another year, so I don't know what else the McLaren hierarchy could have been thinking. At least McLaren is trying to help Perez land another drive, and my guess is they might feel like they owe him since he really did have a decent season.

[555-04Q2]

I think they (McLaren) are morons for letting go of Checo so quickly.

They think that highly of Magnussen, I suppose.

I thought Perez ran well enough and challenged Button enough to have earned another year, so I don't know what else the McLaren hierarchy could have been thinking. At least McLaren is trying to help Perez land another drive, and my guess is they might feel like they owe him since he really did have a decent season.

Well he out qualified Button by 10 vs 9 this season! He deserved another year at least.

[Storm]

Brazil is always a good race to watch and especially with the end of season feel usually associated. This time it was an anti-climax with Vettel barely a lap in P2. The rest of the racing was good but then that has always been the case this year. We want racing up top!!!

Nice bit of farewell for Massa with the mechanics' guard of honour and then Webber with his helmet off. :up:

I just want to see another flag/anthem being played on the podium next year.

[Finski]

I enjoyed this race, a good fair well to Webber, he will be missed. Too bad hamilton took out bottas.

[555-04Q2]

As always, the Brazilian GP proved to be a great race :). There is just something about this track that always delivers drama and/or a great race :)

[AndyL]

I just read in JA's blog that McLaren has become the only team so far to have both cars classified in every Grand Prix in a season. That's quite a nice record even though it came in such a lacklustre season as this one.

It flatters them a little bit I think, I'm sure there were a couple of occasions when a McLaren retired but was classified in the results as it was after 90% race distance.