Today in history

[BleAivano]

I thought that we could have thread about things that have happen throughout the history. large and well know just as well as small and
fairly less known things that have happened. The important part is of course the date. Today is August 10th so only events from August 10th today.

I'll go first with an example:


Sunday August 10th 1628.

I'ts around midday the churches' Sunday service have just ended.
The people of Stockholm are starting to gather along the shore lines, its time for the Kings new ship the majestic Vasa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_%28ship%29)to sail out
on her maiden voyage. The ship sets sails but just a few minutes later when the ship was along Beckholmen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beckholmen) a strong side wind swept
over Saltsjön (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltsj%C3%B6n) and the mighty ship turned over and water starting to flow into the ship through the open gun-ports.

The ship sank and came to a rest at the bottom where it laid for 333 years until it was salvaged in 1961.
about 95% of the ship is original the final 5% have been destroyed over the years under water and have been replaced.

The ship know rests in a dry dock in her own museum (http://www.vasamuseet.se/en/) at Galärvarvet (http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gal%C3%A4rvarvet) at Djugården (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djurg%C3%A5rden).

This means that today is the ships "birthday" and she turns 385 years old.
Younger but much more well preserved then the English Mary Rose.

[Koz]

Yes, the 10th of August. A great day in history, when another war crime was committed. Agent Orange.

[D-Type]

Yes, the 10th of August. A great day in history, when another war crime was committed. Agent Orange.
Please elaborate for those who are not familiar with the details of the Vietnam war (or was this particular incident in Laos or Cambodia?)

[Koz]

During the Vietnam war the US military had a scorched earth policy where the end goal was starving Viet Cong into submission.

They used herbicides, such as Agent Orange, to destroy "dense jungles" from which the Viet Cong operated.
While in reality they also destroyed any and all arable land which they believed were being used to feed the VC. In the end, they destroyed about a quarter of all arable land in South Vietnam. This created a massive amount of refugees.

This in itself is a warcrime.

However, as it happens, things get worse.
These herbicide Agents were known carcinogenic among other things and used in excessively inappropriate concentrations which resulted in horror on a greater scale than the nukes in Japan.

Just google "Agent Orange" and click on Images.
It is not for the faint of heart. That **** will give you nightmares.

[D-Type]

I know about Agent Orange, but what is the August 10th connection?

[Tazio]

Agent Orange Day is today, August 10th. It marks the day in 1961 when the U.S. began aerial spraying of toxic herbicides over Vietnam. This year, Agent Orange Day marks the 51st anniversary of that fateful day. On this day we would like to draw your attention to the recent, exciting news out of Da Nang, Vietnam. On August 9, 2012, the Vietnamese Ministry of Defense and the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) launched a joint project that will safely and completely destroy the dioxin in contaminated soils at the Da Nang airport. This announcement marks a dramatic new milestone in the collaboration between the U.S. and Vietnamese governments towards resolving the legacy of Agent Orange in Vietnam 37 years after the end of the war.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/chit-chat/159451-today-history.html

[BleAivano]

August 13th 1645, Sweden and Denmark agrees on peace with the signing of the peace treaty at (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Treaty_of_Br%C3%B6msebro_%281645%29) Brömsebro (http://goo.gl/maps/YxZVG), Sweden gets
the provinces of Gotland, Jämtland, Härjedalen and Ösel. Sweden also gets Idre and Särna Parish.

In addition to that Sweden got to have Halland province for 30 years (and eventually permanently after the Peace treaty of Roskilde in 1658).

[gadjo_dilo]

August 15th has no historical significance for us but it's St Mary and about 2,2 mil. romanians will celebrate their name day. It's a national holiday so we don't have to go to work ( which is a shame since the 2 Maria/Mariana from my office should have been offering drinks and cookies).
So let's start the phone calls to congratulate the long chain of Maria, Mariana, Ana Maria, Marina, Marilena, Marin,Marian, Marinica, etc.....

Probably by association with Maria we also celebrate the Marine Day but since I don't live in a harbour it's not fun.

[Roamy]

During the Vietnam war the US military had a scorched earth policy where the end goal was starving Viet Cong into submission.

They used herbicides, such as Agent Orange, to destroy "dense jungles" from which the Viet Cong operated.
While in reality they also destroyed any and all arable land which they believed were being used to feed the VC. In the end, they destroyed about a quarter of all arable land in South Vietnam. This created a massive amount of refugees.

This in itself is a warcrime.

However, as it happens, things get worse.
These herbicide Agents were known carcinogenic among other things and used in excessively inappropriate concentrations which resulted in horror on a greater scale than the nukes in Japan.

Just google "Agent Orange" and click on Images.
It is not for the faint of heart. That **** will give you nightmares.


Yes - I would have much preferred the Nuclear Bomb

[Rollo]

http://tlb.hwcdn.net/g5a9r2d3/cds/media/3d0/4cd054c5c3cc3/view.jpg

August 15, 1965.
The beginning of rock bands playing in Stadiums.

This makes me feel somewhat sad. The people of 1965 had The Beatles and Cortinas and the Mustang... and a proper soundtrack to go with them.

[BleAivano]

August 15th, 1769, Ajjaccio, Corsica, France a little boy named Napoleon Bonaparte was born.

August 15th, 1676 Rumpare-Malin (Malin Matsdotter) was burned at the stake accused of being a witch.
as a "compassionate" measure a bag of gunpowder was hanged around her neck to shorten her suffering.

[555-04Q2]

16 August 2012.....I was exactly a year younger then :D

[gadjo_dilo]

16 August 2012.....I was exactly a year younger then :D

Aygf78m1W_U

The songs are typical Romanian, that's what we sing at birthdays but otherwise I think I managed to do a collective wish from all of us. Hopefully I haven't missed someone's thoughts.


LA MUUUUULTI ANI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheFamousEccles]

Interesting thread.

Today - August 17th - in 1980 a baby by the name of Azaria Chamberlain disappeared from the family tent whilst on holidays at Uluru (otherwise known as Ayres Rock) - the subsequent witch-hunt casts a gloomy shaddow over Australian public discourse, and the role of the media in this country.

This Day in History - Today in History with a distinctly Australian Flavour (http://today.wmit.net.au/?today_entry=285&today_session=c392f8bf0eae97b2ce1665391fa63e6b)

[donKey jote]

August 15th has no historical significance for us but it's St Mary and about 2,2 mil. romanians will celebrate their name day. It's a national holiday so we don't have to go to work ( which is a shame since the 2 Maria/Mariana from my office should have been offering drinks and cookies).
So let's start the phone calls to congratulate the long chain of Maria, Mariana, Ana Maria, Marina, Marilena, Marin,Marian, Marinica, etc.....

:kiss: :wave: :bandit:

[edv]

Patiently....
Patiently waiting for Aug 22nd...

[BleAivano]

Avesta, Sweden, August 17th, 1970.

a little boy was born, he was given the name Tony. Last name Rickardsson.
He grew up to become one of the worlds best speedway riders ever. He is a 6-time world champion.

Tony Rickardsson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Rickardsson)

A race between Tony (red helmet), Jason Crump (yellow helmet), Leigh Adams (white helmet). I don't know who the rider is blue helmet is.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rtKGmpLMtE

[BleAivano]

August 18th, 2013, Oslo Norway. Norwegian comedian Rolv Wesenslud dies at Madserud nursing home.
Rolv Wesenlund er død - Aftenposten (http://www.aftenposten.no/kultur/Rolv-Wesenlund-er-dod-7283575.html)

He was very popular in both Norway and Sweden. He was most know for the tv-series Fleksnes Fataliteter. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleksnes_Fataliteter)
Which have aired many times in the Scandinavian countries.

R.I.P Rolv. :andrea: Hopefully this time Saint Peter will let him in through the pearly gates this time.


http://youtu.be/UgEVTD3GoHA

[edv]

Rollo should like this one....

Here's the first ever picture taken of the Beatles together....August 22 1962

http://www.feelnumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/the_beatles_first_photo_together_August_22_1962.jp g

And...here's the last ever picture of the Beatles together.....August 22 1969

http://i.imgur.com/Vveol2W.png

[anfield5]

1305 - William Wallace executed
1775 - King George iii delivers his Proclamation of Rebellion, stating the American colonies have rebelled
1904 - Snow chains for car tyres patented
1914 - Japan declares war on Germany
1954 - The C130 Hercules transport plane has it's first flight
1990 - East and West Germany announce that they will reunite on October 3rd
2011 - Muammar Qaddafi is overthrown

[gadjo_dilo]

23 August 1939 - it was signed The Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact, named after the Soviet foreign minister Vyacheslav Molotov and the Nazi German foreign minister Joachim von Ribbentrop, officially the Treaty of Non-aggression between Germany and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The Pact ensured a non-involvement of the Soviet Union in a European War, as well as separating Germany and Japan from forming a military alliance, thus allowing Stalin to concentrate on Japan in the battles of Khalkhin Gol (Nomonhan). The pact remained in effect until 22 June 1941, when Germany invaded the Soviet Union. It also included a secret protocol that divided territories of Romania, Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland into Nazi and Soviet "spheres of influence", anticipating potential "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries. Thereafter, Germany invaded Poland on 1 September 1939. The Soviet Union would not invade Poland until the Nomonhan incident was officially concluded by the Molotov–Togo agreement, which it was on 15 September 1939, taking effect on 16 September, at which time Stalin ordered Soviet forces to invade Poland on 17 September 1939.[3] Part of southeastern (Karelia) and Salla region in Finland were annexed by the Soviet Union after the Winter War. This was followed by Soviet annexations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Bessarabia, Northern Bukovina and the Hertza region.

[gadjo_dilo]

23 August 1944 - There are still debates if this day meant Romania's salvation ot an act of national treason.
King Michael I of Romania led the coup that put Romania on the Allied side.In a radio broadcast to the Romanian nation and army on the night of 23 August King Michael issued a cease-fire, proclaimed Romania's loyalty to the Allies, announced the acceptance of an armistice (to be signed on September 12)offered by Great Britain, the United States, and the USSR, and declared war on Germany. The coup accelerated the Red Army's advance into Romania, but did not avert a rapid Soviet occupation and capture of about 130,000 Romanian soldiers, who were transported to the Soviet Union where many perished in prison camps. The armistice was signed three weeks later on 12 September 1944, on terms virtually dictated by the Soviet Union. Under the terms of the armistice, Romania announced its unconditional surrender to the USSR and was placed under occupation of the Allied forces with the Soviet Union as their representative, in control of media, communication, post, and civil administration behind the front. It has been suggested that the coup may have shortened World War II by up to six months, thus saving hundreds of thousands of lives. Some attribute the postponement of a formal Allied recognition of the de facto change of orientation until 12 September (the date the armistice was signed in Moscow) to the complexities of the negotiations between the USSR and UK.

Used to be our national day until 1989 and it was great cos it was on summer and we had 2 days off. Then it was changed as it's associated with the entrance of the Red Army with its horrible consequences.

[donKey jote]

47 years ago

[gadjo_dilo]

47 years ago

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[donKey jote]

cheers gadji, that made my day :D
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(donkeys are easy to please :andrea: )

[gadjo_dilo]

Happy birthday old Virgo!

Stay cheeky and keep smiling. And make us smile too.

:kiss:

[airshifter]

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Today in history in the year 2013, gadjo_dilo exposes what happens when her and her gypsy friends get together. She is the one in the skimpy outfit. :)

[BleAivano]

50 years ago today.

Martin Luther King's Address at March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom August 28, 1963. Washington D.C. USA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_on_Washington_for_Jobs_and_Freedom)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEqnnklfYs

[gadjo_dilo]

I wish..... :p

[D-Type]

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What! No 'Billy's missus' joke here yet?

[BleAivano]

September 5th 1946 this man was born:

http://bildcentralen.se/images/2013/09/05/yXg3h.jpg

[gadjo_dilo]

Once again it's St. Maria. This time the so called ''St. Little Maria'' but as celebrated with food and drinks as the big one.
So another day to spend on the phone congratulating the long chain of people who has this name or its derivates. BTW, I've noticed that all the guys who come to fix something in the house is a Marian or Marinica. Weird.....

[gadjo_dilo]

Once again it's St. Maria. This time the so called ''St. Little Maria'' but as celebrated with food and drinks as the big one.
So another day to spend on the phone congratulating the long chain of people who has this name or its derivates. BTW, I've noticed that all the guys who come to fix something in the house is a Marian or Marinica. Weird.....

[donKey jote]

If you were any closer I'd be tempted to pop round and fix something today too :andrea:

[gadjo_dilo]

Why? Is your real name Marian? :confused:

[donKey jote]

Marian - no ! :p

[gadjo_dilo]

Ho! We're not in the field.... :devil:

[Tazio]

http://zasshigames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mario31.jpg

Fix your pipes mam? :angel:

[D-Type]

September 9th 1513 - Battle of Flodden Field.
The last battle between the army of Scotland and the army of England. (The Union of the Crowns in 1603 meant subsequent battles were part of a civil war rather than a war between nations.)

[steveaki13]

From next year we can post this was the day the last version of Motorsport Forums died. RIP

[Mark]

From next year we can post this was the day the last version of Motorsport Forums died. RIP

Think of it as an upgrade ;)

[gadjo_dilo]

I liked more the old version. For me it will be more. of a commemoration than an anniversary.

[Mark]

I liked more the old forum. For me it will be more. of a commemoration than an anniversary.

Well this place is temporary I hope.

[Gregor-y]

At least my avatar seems to be showing up, now.

[donKey jote]

yeah, so is mine :dork:

[BleAivano]

It was around 4pm in the afternoon, Swedish Minister of Foreign affairs Anna Lindh and her friend
had decided to go to the NK galleria to do some shopping. A few minutes later Mijailo Mijailovi?
had stabbed her in the chest and in the stomach, she underwent surgery but died the following morning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Lindh#Murder
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3098834.stm


*edit

September 10th 1978

Ronnie Petterson crashes at Monza and dies the next day.
http://www.ronniepeterson.se/index.html

[D-Type]

And Anna Lindh was attacked on 10th September 2003, dying the next day.

[BleAivano]

September 15th 1973 the time was 20.35 At Sofiero Palace in Helsingborg.
Gustav VI Adolf died and his grand son Crown Prince Carl Gustaf became Carl XVI Gustaf the new King of Sweden.

That means that today is his 40 year anniversary as King. :) :champion:

[BleAivano]

1.48 AM Estonian time (UTC+3), September 28, 1994.

the large passenger ferry m/S Estionia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Estonia#Sinking) sank just outside Finnish Utö (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ut%C3%B6,_Finland) while en route from Tallin Estonia to Stockholm, Sweden.
Of the 989 people on-board, only 137 survived. The official cause of the sinking was that she was driven to
hard in the rough weather conditions, which the ship even wasn't constructed to be able to cope with, which
caused the bow visor to fall of allowing the head on waves to crash into the car deck,

The ship took on allot of water, tilted on her side and sank. The ships is now resting at the bottom
of the Baltic sea

This catastrophe and the investigations that followed is still today met with scepticism by many,
especially by the relatives of the survivors who still claim that the want the answer to why the ship
sank and implying that it was not an accident but that the ship rather was sank on purpose
by either explosive devices on-board or by a Russian submarine.

Personally I believe that the official cause it was really happened however In a way the official
report do have some flaws or cover ups in that regard that it doesn't really show the neglect from the authorities,
about how poor the ship's condition really was. That authorities either hadn't done enough and thoroughly enough inspections
or that the authorities had looked through the fingers. That she was doing a route which she shouldn't have been allowed to
do because of the her certification which meant that ship was not allowed to do open-sea routes but only
routes like the one between Stockholm and Åbo which is mainly a route through several archipelagos.

some links:
http://www.turvallisuustutkinta.fi/en/E ... Lataussivu (http://www.turvallisuustutkinta.fi/en/Etusivu/Tutkintaselostukset/Vesiliikenne/MVEstonia/Lataussivu)
http://www.havkom.se/Start/Marine/The_E ... dent_1994/ (http://www.havkom.se/Start/Marine/The_ESTONIA_accident_1994/)
http://www.estoniasamlingen.se/

[D-Type]

As the Herald of Free Enterprise sinking confirmed, car ferries are vulnerable because of the bow doors. Personally, I see no reason to doubt that the Estonia loss was a combination of bad weather and a ship that was in, shall we say, less than perfect condition. And it is credible that the owners would want to obscure the latter fact by planting rumours that turned the focus away from them.

[BleAivano]

October 1st. 1977, Pelé retired from professional football.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24276047

[anfield5]

1537 - The first complete English-language Bible (the Matthew Bible) is printed, with translations by William Tyndale and Miles Coverdale
1636 - In Massachusetts the Plymouth Colony's 1st law drafted
1648 - Peter Stuyvesant establishes Americas 1st volunteer firemen
1901 - Columbia (US) beats Shamrock II (England) in 12th America's Cup
1957 - USSR launches Sputnik I, 1st artificial Earth satellite
1983 - Richard Noble reaches record 1019 kph in jet-powered car
2012 - Formula One legend, Michael Schumacher, announces retirement

[BleAivano]

November 6th 1632, during the Battle of Lützen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_L%C3%BCtzen_%281632%29) during the Thirty year's war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War), the Swedish King Gustav II Adolf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_Adolphus)
(aka Gustavus Adolphus the Great aka "The Lion of the North"), was killed by several shots.

[Rudy Tamasz]

November 6th 1632, during the Battle of Lützen (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_L%C3%BCtzen_%281632%29) during the Thirty year's war (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War), the Swedish King Gustav II Adolf (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_Adolphus)
(aka Gustavus Adolphus the Great aka "The Lion of the North"), was killed by several shots.

On the same day and in the same battle Gottfried Heinrich Graf zu Pappenheim, a field marshal of the imperial army was killed while leading the charge of his cuirassiers. Wallenstein's letter to Pappenheim, which he carried on himself at the time of the battle, can be seen at the military museum in Vienna.

[SGWilko]

September 9th 1513 - Battle of Flodden Field.
The last battle between the army of Scotland and the army of England. (The Union of the Crowns in 1603 meant subsequent battles were part of a civil war rather than a war between nations.)

As an aside, been to the battlefields at Branxton many times - favourite part of the country for us! :)

[anfield5]

1519 - 1st meeting of Montezuma & Hernán Cortés in Mexico
1731 - In Philadelphia, Benjamin Franklin opens 1st US library
1789 - Bourbon Whiskey, 1st distilled from corn (by Elijah Craig, Bourbon Ky)
1864 - Abraham Lincoln (R) elected to his 2nd term as American President
1895 - German physicist Wilhelm Röntgen produces and detects electromagnetic radiation in a wavelength range today known as X-rays or Röntgen rays
1966 - Movie actor Ronald Reagan elected Governor of California

[gadjo_dilo]

St Michael and St Gabriel day.
A lot of Mihai and Mihaele/Gabrieli and Gabriele in my generation.
So let's the wine flow...... :lips:

[Rudy Tamasz]

St Michael and St Gabriel day.
A lot of Mihai and Mihaele/Gabrieli and Gabriele in my generation.
So let's the wine flow...... :lips:

St. Demetrius' day as well. He's my son's patron saint. :)

[gadjo_dilo]

[quote="gadjo_dilo":2sxjo0cn]St Michael and St Gabriel day.
A lot of Mihai and Mihaele/Gabrieli and Gabriele in my generation.
So let's the wine flow...... :lips:

St. Demetrius' day as well. He's my son's patron saint. :)[/quote:2sxjo0cn]
Congrats and all the best to him.
We follow the other calendar and celebrated St D on 26th Oct. He's the patron of my hometown and many people stay at km. of queue to touch his relics.

[D-Type]

I've heard of St Michael and St Gabriel - they're both archangels aren't they? But who is St Demetrius? I remember a film once "Demetrius and the gladiators" but I don't think that was him. I'd better go and ask Google and Wikipedia.

[anfield5]

1793 - Jean Sylvain Bailly, the first Mayor of Paris, is guillotined
1847 - Sir James Young Simpson, a British physician, is the first to use chloroform as an anaesthetic
1900 - World's Fair in Paris opens
1912 - Robert Scott's diary & dead body found in Antarctica
1927 - Trotsky expelled from Soviet CP; Stalin becomes undisputed dictator
1933 - 1st known photo of Loch Ness monster (or whatever) is taken
1990 - Tim Berners-Lee publishes a formal proposal for the World Wide Web

[BleAivano]

Births:
1929, Grace Kelly.
1943, Rally driver Björn Waldegård.

Deaths:
1035, Knut den store ( Canute the Great) king of England, Denmark and Norway.
1094, Duncan II King of Scotland.
1139, Magnus IV Sigurdsson (Magnus the Blind) of Norway.
1202: Knut VI of Denmark
1987: Cornelis Vreeswijk, Swedish-Dutch troubadour

Other:
1981, Space Shuttle Columbia becomes the first spaceship to have been used twice.
1944, Allied forces successfully managed to sink the German battleship Tirpitz.

It seems that Nov 12 is a day to avoid if you ever become a king. ;)

[gadjo_dilo]

12 Nov.1884
Timisoara has become the first European city where public street lighting was designed and implemented in a general system for the entire city.

[anfield5]

1851 - Telegraph connection between London-Paris linked
1907 - French cyclist Paul Cornu flies 1st helicopter (twin rotor)
1971 - Mariner 9, 1st to orbit another planet (Mars)
1980 - US spacecraft Voyager I sent back 1st close-up pictures of Saturn
1987 - 1st condom commercial on BBC TV
1990 - The World Wide Web first began
2001 - War on Terrorism: In the first such act since World War II, US President George W. Bush signs an executive order allowing military tribunals against foreigners suspected of connections to terrorist acts or planned acts on the United States.

[BleAivano]

50 years ago the island Surtsey breached the surface of the Atlantic ocean.

[anfield5]

1492 - Christopher Columbus notes 1st recorded reference to tobacco
1532 - Pope Clemens VII tells Henry VIII to end relationship with Anna Boleyn (Hmm that went down well!)
1837 - Isaac Pitman introduces his shorthand system
1899 - Morning Post reporter Winston Churchill captured by Boers in Natal
1934 - Nobel for chemistry awarded to Harold C Urey for discovering deuterium
1954 - 1st regularly scheduled commercial flights over North Pole begins
1961 - UN bans nuclear arms
1965 - Craig Breedlove sets land speed record (600.601 mph-966.57 kph)

[D-Type]

50 years ago today President John F Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas.

(I'm one of the generation that was so shoccked that they remember exactly what they were doing when they heard the news)

[henners88]

50 years ago today President John F Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas.

(I'm one of the generation that was so shoccked that they remember exactly what they were doing when they heard the news)
It was 19 years before I was born but a piece of history that has always fascinated me. I'm really enjoying all the documentaries at the moment on JFK too. A terrible turn of events and must have been shocking to have lived through that or been in Dallas that day. ITV showed a doc last week called, 'The day Kennedy died', I think it was called that, narrated by Kevin Spacey and interviews several people who played key parts during that day. Very interesting and really paints the true horror of what happened that sunny day in 1963.

[Tazio]

50 years ago today President John F Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas.

(I'm one of the generation that was so shoccked that they remember exactly what they were doing when they heard the news)
I also remember exactly where I was when I heard the news, although I was a little young to really appreciate the gravity of it. (9 years old)

On a lighter note Nov.22 1968 is the date that The Beatles released the white album.

[Spafranco]

50 years ago today President John F Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas.

(I'm one of the generation that was so shoccked that they remember exactly what they were doing when they heard the news)
It was 19 years before I was born but a piece of history that has always fascinated me. I'm really enjoying all the documentaries at the moment on JFK too. A terrible turn of events and must have been shocking to have lived through that or been in Dallas that day. ITV showed a doc last week called, 'The day Kennedy died', I think it was called that, narrated by Kevin Spacey and interviews several people who played key parts during that day. Very interesting and really paints the true horror of what happened that sunny day in 1963.

Horrible day. The images of the couple emerging , President Kennedy and Mrs Kennedy from the plane seemed so relaxed and orderly as just another day.
I have read the conspiracy theories and heard personally from friends who have been there and one thing that has not been duplicated or explained is the impossible speed with which Oswald fired the gun.
Another is that , WHY a known communist sympathizer was able to live in broad daylight amongst the citizen of Dallas without being monitored for the presidents visit.

[D-Type]

Can one of our gun experts give us a sensible comment on the speed issue. I know there are tricks for rapid firing a bolt action weapon but you sacrifice accuracy.

[Tazio]

Freakin' Oswald was a crack shot even for the USMC, the only thing he ever excelled at in his entire life as far as I know :confused:

[airshifter]

Freakin' Oswald was a crack shot even for the USMC, the only thing he ever excelled at in his entire life as far as I know :confused:

Oswald never qualified above the level of Sharpshooter by all accounts I've ever seen. Hardly a crack shot by Marine Corps standards, but still a reasonable shot by the standards of most. The minimum distance Marines fired at back during that time as 200 yards.


As for shot timing, easily done IMO. Though some experts argue, the general consensus is that Oswald would have had somewhere around 8 and a half seconds to get off three shots. I've never fired the rifle type in question, but others have bested this time without practice or specific training on the weapon.


For many, many years I rejected the single shooter theory, based on what I had seen. There were some new (to me at least) interviews in the last couple of years that shed a new light on the angles, timings, speeds, etc that changed my mind to the possibility of a single shooter. In short I think that if the Warren Commission was less accurate than some think they were, it's possible. As for likely I don't know.

Based on the information the Warren Commission concluded some of the best shooters in the world have tried and failed at those shots. Some that tried were distinguished Marine Corps snipers, who would have had a much better skill set than Oswald did. The question mark in my mind is just how close to reality the Warren Commission was.



As for the event itself, I was far too young to remember.

[Tazio]

Oswald never qualified above the level of Sharpshooter by all accounts I've ever seen.


Like all Marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting and he scored 212 in December 1956, slightly above the requirements for the designation of sharpshooter. Still pretty darn good ;)
Plus we don't know how much he practiced shots similar to the ones he took in Dallas just prior to the Assassination.

Noun 1. crack shot - someone skilled in shooting
marksman, sharpshooter
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crack+shot



There was ample time for Oswald to have fired 3 shots, hitting with two of them, within 8.31 seconds. All series of 3 shots were fired in less than 8 seconds, two were fired in less than 7 seconds, two in less than 6, and two in less than 5.

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo/jfk8/mc.htm

[BleAivano]

Nov 24th 1991: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46alD63YXhQ

[Tazio]

Nov 24, is a red letter day for Evolutionary Biology. On this date In 1859 "Origin of Species" was first published.

[D-Type]

Is it true that in some parts of the USA teachers are still not allowed to teach the Theory of Evolution or is this an urban myth?

[555-04Q2]

571 BC – Servius Tullius, king of Rome, celebrates a triumph for his victory over the Etruscans.
1034 – Máel Coluim mac Cináeda, King of Scots dies. Donnchad, the son of his daughter Bethóc and Crínán of Dunkeld, inherits the throne.
1120 – The White Ship sinks in the English Channel, drowning William Adelin, son of Henry I of England.
1177 – Baldwin IV of Jerusalem and Raynald of Châtillon defeat Saladin at the Battle of Montgisard.
1343 – A tsunami, caused by the earthquake in the Tyrrhenian Sea, devastates Naples (Italy) and the Maritime Republic of Amalfi, among other places.
1487 – Elizabeth of York is crowned Queen of England.
1491 – The siege of Granada, the last Moorish stronghold in Spain, begins.
1667 – A deadly earthquake rocks Shemakha in the Caucasus, killing 80,000 people.
1755 – King Ferdinand VI of Spain grants royal protection to the Beaterio de la Compañia de Jesus, now known as the Congregation of the Religious of the Virgin Mary.
1758 – French and Indian War: British forces capture Fort Duquesne from French control. Fort Pitt is built nearby and it grows into modern Pittsburgh.
1759 – An earthquake hits the Mediterranean destroying Beirut and Damascus and killing 30,000-40,000.
1783 – American Revolutionary War: The last British troops leave New York City three months after the signing of the Treaty of Paris.
1795 – Partitions of Poland: Stanislaus August Poniatowski, the last king of independent Poland, is forced to abdicate and is exiled to Russia.
1826 – The Greek frigate Hellas arrives in Nafplion to become the first flagship of the Hellenic Navy.
1833 – A massive undersea earthquake, estimated magnitude between 8.7-9.2 rocks Sumatra, producing a massive tsunami all along the Indonesian coast.
1839 – A cyclone slams India with high winds and a 40 foot storm surge, destroying the port city of Coringa (which has never been completely rebuilt). The storm wave sweeps inland, taking with it 20,000 ships and thousands of people. An estimated 300,000 deaths result from the disaster.
1863 – American Civil War: Battle of Missionary Ridge – At Missionary Ridge in Tennessee, Union forces led by General Ulysses S. Grant break the Siege of Chattanooga by routing Confederate troops under General Braxton Bragg.
1864 – American Civil War: A group of Confederate operatives calling themselves the Confederate Army of Manhattan starts fires in more than 20 locations in an unsuccessful attempt to burn down New York City.
1874 – The United States Greenback Party is established as a political party consisting primarily of farmers affected by the Panic of 1873.
1876 – American Indian Wars: In retaliation for the American defeat at the Battle of the Little Bighorn, United States Army troops sack Chief Dull Knife's sleeping Cheyenne village at the headwaters of the Powder River.
1905 – Prince Carl of Denmark arrives in Norway to become King Haakon VII of Norway.
1917 – German forces defeat Portuguese army of about 1200 at Negomano on the border of modern-day Mozambique and Tanzania.
1918 – Vojvodina, formerly Austro-Hungarian crown land, proclaims its secession from Austria–Hungary to join the Kingdom of Serbia.
1926 – The deadliest November tornado outbreak in U.S. history strikes on Thanksgiving day. 27 twisters of great strength are reported in the Midwest, including the strongest November tornado, an estimated F4, that devastates Heber Springs, Arkansas. There are 51 deaths in Arkansas alone, 76 deaths and over 400 injuries in all.
1936 – In Berlin, Germany and Japan sign the Anti-Comintern Pact, agreeing to consult on measures "to safeguard their common interests" in the case of an unprovoked attack by the Soviet Union against either nation. The pact is renewed on the same day five years later with additional signatories.
1940 – World War II: First flight of the de Havilland Mosquito and Martin B-26 Marauder.
1943 – World War II: Statehood of Bosnia and Herzegovina is re-established at the State Anti-Fascist Council for the People's Liberation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.
1947 – Red Scare: The "Hollywood Ten" are blacklisted by Hollywood movie studios.
1947 – New Zealand ratifies the Statute of Westminster and thus becomes independent of legislative control by the United Kingdom.
1950 – The Great Appalachian Storm of November 1950, otherwise known at the time as the "Storm of the Century", strikes New England with hurricane force winds resulting in massive forest blow-downs and storm surge damage along the Northeast coast including New York City. This storm also brings blizzard conditions to the Appalachian Mountains and Ohio Valley, becoming one of the worst storms of all time. 353 people die in the event.
1952 – Agatha Christie's murder-mystery play The Mousetrap opens at the Ambassadors Theatre in London later becoming the longest continuously-running play in history.
1952 – Korean War: After 42 days of fighting, the Battle of Triangle Hill ends as American and South Korean units abandon their attempt to capture the "Iron Triangle".
1958 – French Sudan gains autonomy as a self-governing member of the French Community.
1960 – The Mirabal sisters of the Dominican Republic are assassinated.
1963 – President John F. Kennedy is buried at Arlington National Cemetery.
1970 – In Japan, author Yukio Mishima and one compatriot commit ritualistic seppuku after an unsuccessful coup attempt.
1973 – George Papadopoulos, head of the military Regime of the Colonels in Greece, is ousted in a hardliners' coup led by Brigadier General Dimitrios Ioannidis.
1975 – Suriname gains independence from the Netherlands.
1977 – Former Senator Benigno Aquino, Jr. is found guilty by the Philippine Military Commission No. 2 and is sentenced to death by firing squad.
1981 – Pope John Paul II appoints Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
1984 – 36 top musicians gather in a Notting Hill studio and record Band Aid's "Do They Know It's Christmas" in order to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia.
1986 – Iran Contra Affair: US Attorney General Edwin Meese announces that profits from covert weapons sales to Iran were illegally diverted to the anti-communist Contra rebels in Nicaragua.
1986 – The King Fahd Causeway is officially opened in the Persian Gulf.
1987 – Typhoon Nina pummels the Philippines with category 5 winds of 165 mph and a surge that destroys entire villages. At least 1,036 deaths are attributed to the storm.
1992 – The Federal Assembly of Czechoslovakia votes to split the country into the Czech Republic and Slovakia from January 1, 1993.
1996 – An ice storm strikes the central U.S. killing 26 people. A powerful windstorm affects Florida and winds gust over 90 mph, toppling trees and flipping trailers.
1999 – The United Nations establishes the International Day for the Elimination of Violence against Women to commemorate the murder of three Mirabal Sisters for resistance against the Rafael Trujillo dictatorship in Dominican Republic.
2000 – The 2000 Baku earthquake takes place, Richter magnitude of 7.0, leaving 26 people dead in Baku, Azerbaijan and becoming the strongest earthquake in the region in 158 years.
2008 – Cyclone Nisha strikes northern Sri Lanka, killing 15 people and displacing 90,000 others while dealing the region the highest rainfall in 9 decades.
2009 – Devastating floods, known as the 2009 Saudi Arabian Floods, following freak rains swamp the city of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia during an ongoing Hajj pilgrimage. 3,000 cars are swept away and 122 people perish in the torrents, with 350 others missing.

[BleAivano]

November 25th 2005, Richard Burns dies.

[henners88]

George Best also died on this day 25th November 2005. One of the greatest footballers, but sadly threw it all away unlike Richard who lived life to the fullest.

[Tazio]

Is it true that in some parts of the USA teachers are still not allowed to teach the Theory of Evolution or is this an urban myth?
I'm pretty sure that evolution is part of the curriculum guidelines for science instruction in all 50 States. That doesn't mean that it is taught well in all regions of the US. In fact I believe it is a fairly common practice for “Creationist" parents to demand that the teacher pre-announce when they will be teaching the "evolution section", so that they can pull their child out of class on those days. However I do not have any firsthand knowledge of this behavior to be fair.

[BleAivano]

1778, James Cook is the first European to visit the Hawaii Island Maui.
1789, the first Thanksgiving day is observed.
1832, In New York its grand opening for their first tram line. Its line was Prince Street–14th Street.
1863, Abraham Lincoln makes Thanksgiving day a national holiday.
1917, National Hockey League was formed.
2003, Last flight of the Concorde supersonic passenger jet.

Births:

1939, Tina Turner-
1940, icehockey coach Curt LIndström

[karim007]

I see no reason to doubt that the Estonia loss was a combination of bad weather and a ship that was in, shall we say, less than perfect condition.

[Tazio]

November 29, 1811

On this day in 1811 a final notice appeared in the Richmond, Virginia Inquirer asking for donations in aid of the destitute young actress, Eliza Poe, and her children, two-year-old Edgar and his baby sister, Rosalie:


To the Humane heart. On this night Mrs. Poe, lingering on the bed of disease and surrounded by her children, asks your assistance and asks it perhaps for the last time. The Generosity of the Richmond Audience can need no other appeal....

A week later, Eliza Poe died, more or less as Poe's wife, Virginia Eliza, would die thirty-six years later: of tuberculosis, in dire poverty, at the age of twenty-four. Her stage fame had rested on her Ophelia, Cordelia and Juliet roles, and now her burial echoed them: many in the local church argued against burying her in consecrated ground, not because a suicide like Ophelia, but because an actress. There being no family to care or argue for her - Eliza Poe was an orphan at eleven, her first husband died, and her second, Poe's father, ran off - the prosperous merchant John Allan stepped in to manage the funeral, and then Mrs. Allan took on young Edgar.

[gadjo_dilo]

Great Union Day occurring on December 1, is the national holiday of Romania. It commemorates the assembly of the delegates of ethnic Romanians held in Alba Iulia, which declared the Union of Transylvania with Romania.
It happened in 1918 when also Basarabia and Bucovina were united with the "'Kingdom of Romania'' making ''The Great Romania''.
Good God! What times... What politicians we had...WTF wasn't I born on those times?

Adding to my legendary unluck, the national day is on a freezing cold winter day and on a Sunday. I'm gonna celebrate it with a hot cup of tea. :|

[D-Type]

And a brandy?

[gadjo_dilo]

Maybe a plum brandy, just to be in the spirit of our national tradition. :p

[BleAivano]

Today is the Finnish day of Independence.

ON December 6th 1917, the parliament of Finland adopted the declaration of independence from Russia
after being part of the Russian Empire since 1809 when Sweden lost Finland to Russia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_De ... dependence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Declaration_of_Independence)

[airshifter]

Barely squeaking this in here but....

Dec 7, 1941 Japan attacks Pearl Harbor

Much to the dismay of Japan, it turns out that Yamamoto was correct in saying that it would awaken a sleeping giant and strengthen the resolve of the country.

Though for much of the world that remembers the D Day on Normandy, due to the will and resolve of the Japanese warriors the numerous D Days in the Pacific campaign would come at a much higher cost of life for both sides.

[BleAivano]

December 10th 1896, Alfred Nobel the Swedish scientist and inventor of dynamite dies,
In his memory on this day the Nobel prize ceremony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize#Award_ceremonies) takes place in Stockholm at Stockholm Concert Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Concert_Hall),
which is followed by a banquet at Stockholm City Hall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_City_Hall).

For those interested in watching SVT airs it live at their play service:

Prize ceremony; http://www.svtplay.se/video/1628132/nob ... tdelningen (http://www.svtplay.se/video/1628132/nobel-2013-prisutdelningen) (16,25 CET, 15,25 GMT and 10.25 EST)
Arrival of the guests at the banquet; http://www.svtplay.se/video/1653860/nob ... oda-mattan (http://www.svtplay.se/video/1653860/nobelfesten-2013-fran-roda-mattan) (18.00 CET, 15.00 GMT, 12.00 EST)
The banquet: http://www.svtplay.se/video/1628133/nob ... -banketten (http://www.svtplay.se/video/1628133/nobel-2013-banketten) (19.00 CET)

[D-Type]

50 years ago today on December 12th 1963 Kenya gained its independence.

[BleAivano]

Today is December 13th, in Sweden also known as Lucia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucy%27s_Day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X70oix9NISk

This year its also Friday the 13th :devil:

[gadjo_dilo]

December 16th.

24 years ago in Timi?oara (Romania) a few hundred people had the courage to get out in the street and shout "Freedom" and "Down with communism". It was the start of what is known as the Romanian revolution of 1989.

A tear, a candle and a flower for those who were shot.
http://g1b2i3.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/romanian-revolution-126-760x511.jpg?w=604

[schmenke]

December 16th, 1770: Composer Ludwig van Beethoven is born in Bonn, Germany.

[Tazio]

December 16th, 2013 Taz received his copy of http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51dUZtr9%2BUL._SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg
Thanks Mark.
I'd also would like to thank all the little people, without ya''awl none of this would have been possible :sailor: :angel:

[BleAivano]

about 30 minutes ago it was 110 years since the Wright Brothers did their first flight. http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/d_finley/smileys/transport015.gif

http://earthsky.org/human-world/this-da ... -393535525 (http://earthsky.org/human-world/this-date-in-science-wright-brothers-first-flight?utm_source=EarthSky+News&utm_campaign=e79c6204d0-EarthSky_News&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c643945d79-e79c6204d0-393535525)

[gadjo_dilo]

December 22nd 1989

The day when what seemed to be impossible became possible and the Romanian revolution prevailed.
It was the happiest day of my life and I thought my life would change.
It hasn't.
Just 24 years of shattered dreams.


http://WWW.YouTube.com/watch?v=Dwqv5n1hug4

[gadjo_dilo]

January 7th. Time to party since it's St. John and about 2 mil. (10% ) people in my country celebrate their name by offering drinks and cakes.

Since I remember last year's shame I won't risk it again to send him a PM and I'll say it publicly:
:kiss: LA MULTI ANI IOAN! Wherever you are.....

[henners88]

:kiss: LA MULTI ANI IOAN! Wherever you are.....
I would imagine he is somewhere in the French Alps ruing the day he ever bought a Renault Espace. :erm:

[D-Type]

January 7th. Time to party since it's St. John and about 2 mil. (10% ) people in my country celebrate their name by offering drinks and cakes.

~
I don't recognise that date. Is it a feast on the Orthodox calendar? I think of John the Evangelist on December 27th and John the Baptist on June 24th ( RC or Anglican calendar)

[gadjo_dilo]

John the Baptist has 3 feasts on Orthodox calendar:
January 7 th - Synaxis of JB
June 24 th - The birth of JB
August 29 th - The beheading of JB
Only the first is celebrated as a name day for Ion, Ioan, Ionu?, Ionel, Nelu, Ionic?, Iancu, Ioana, Oana, Ionela, Ionica, etc.

[airshifter]

23 February 1945

US Marines raise a flag on Mt Suribachi, Iwo Jima

The 36 day assault would prove to be the first in which US casualties were greater than those of the Japanese, with Marine casualties of over 26,000, including some 6,800 killed in action. Sailors aboard US Navy ships would suffer several hundred more casualties.

Of the 20,000 Japanese defenders, less than 1,100 survived the battle.


"The battle of Iwo Island has been won. The United States Marines by their individual and collective courage have conquered a base which is as necessary to us in our continuing forward movement toward final victory as it was vital to the enemy in staving off ultimate defeat.

By their victory, the 3rd, 4th and 5th Marine Divisions and other units of the Fifth Amphibious Corps have made an accounting to their country which only history will be able to value fully. Among the Americans who served on Iwo Island, uncommon valor was a common virtue." Fleet Admiral Chester W. Nimitz

"The raising of that flag on Suribachi means a Marine Corps for the next five hundred years." James Forrestal, Secretary of the Navy





Having spent some time on Okinawa Island and doing training there with the Marines, it's hard to imagine what these men on both sides of the battle endured.

[BleAivano]

A couple of notable births:

1685 Georg Friedrich Händel, German/British composer.
1954 Viktor Jusjtjenko, former President and Prime minister of Ukraine.
2012 HRH Princess Estelle (daughter of Crown Princess Victoria and 2nd in line for the Swedish throne).

A couple of notable deaths;

1717 Magnus Stenbock, Swedish Count, General and Field Marshal.
1848 John Quincy Adams, a former U.S president.
1934 Edward Elgar, British composer.

[BleAivano]

February 24th 2014, actor Harold Ramis dies.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertain ... 9309.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-harold-ramis-dead-20140224,0,2259309.story)
http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/24/harold-ramis-dead/

[BleAivano]

February 26th 1974 this guy was born;

https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/statu ... 32/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/status/438612191147589632/photo/1)

[MccarthyL]

Antonio Vivaldi was born today, I mean back in 1678 :)

[BleAivano]

1989, Swedish alpine skier Ingemar Stenmark makes his last world cup start, marking the
end of a 14 year long career that gave in 86 world cup wins.

1451, Amerigo Verspucci was born

1862. the second and final day of the Battle of Hampton Road.

[airshifter]

1862. the second and final day of the Battle of Hampton Road.

Living in the area, I drive by where that battle took place on a regular basis. It changed the approach to shipbuilding in many countries.

And today, in eyesight from where that battle took place, some of the worlds most advanced ships are launched.

[D-Type]

8 March 1950 - The VW Microbus went into production

[BleAivano]

"HistoricRoyalPalaces ‏@HRP_palaces (https://twitter.com/HRP_palaces) 2m (https://twitter.com/HRP_palaces/status/449150200314347521) Today in 1625: Charles I becomes King of England, Scotland and Ireland, after the death of his father James"

[BleAivano]

April 3rd, 1860. The Pony Express started it's delivering service between St. Joseph, Missouri and Sacramento, California.

[mejias307]

BTW, I've noticed that all the guys who come to fix something in the house is a Marian or Marinica. Weird.....

[BleAivano]

April 15th:
1452: Leonardo da Vinci
1632: The Battle of Rain (Bavaria) took place where Sweden led by King Gustavus Adolphus (Gustaf II Adolf) defeated the Holy Roman Empire army.
1865: Abraham Lincoln dies.
1912, RMS Titanic struck an iceberg and sunk.

[Rollo]

April 15th:
1912, RMS Titanic struck an iceberg and sunk.
1970, Apple Records received a letter from Paul McCartney which effectively ended the Beatles.
1989, Hillsborough Stadium disaster.

That's a Liverpool trifecta.

Also, in 1955, the first McDonald's was opened.

[henners88]

1989, Hillsborough Stadium disaster.
A day that comes around every year and affects my brother quite deeply. Its crazy to think its been a quarter of a century already.

[BleAivano]

Some sources says Williams Shakspeare was probably born on April 23rd 1564, others says that was born on April 26th and died on April 23rd 1616.
It also varies depending if you use the Julian or Gregorian calender.

[BleAivano]

April 23rd, 2001. The Airbus A340-600 made it's first flight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aXtskwleXo
https://twitter.com/AirlineFlyer/status/459008383782486017

[gadjo_dilo]

April 23 -St. George

[donKey jote]

April 23 -St. George

didn't realise you had the BNP in Romania :p :devil: :andrea:

and it's San Jordi anyway :D

[gadjo_dilo]

What is BNP? :confused:

[BleAivano]

What is BNP? :confused:

Brutto National Product; an Economy term. or a British extreme right wing political party called British National Party?

[D-Type]

British National Party - a small right wing party who have adopted the St Georges cross (red on white) as their symbol

[BleAivano]

62 years ago Ari Vatanen was born. :cool:

[airshifter]

In 1805 a group of primarily Greek and Arab mercenaries led by US Marines raised a US flag in Derma, Tripoli. This was done after a declaration of war on the US that was made when the Pasha of Tripoli cut down the US flagstaff at the US Consulate.

It was the first time the US flag was raised on foreign soil. The event is mentioned to this day in the Marines Hymn. The actions took place as a result of piracy and large ransom demands to have the men returned. Sweden and the Swedish Royal Navy were also involved, though to be honest I'm not all that clear for the reasons they were the only other country involved.

It was also these actions that had great influence on creating a formal US Navy.



Over 2000 years later, the US and many other countries continue to fight piracy through multinational organizations in many parts of the globe.

[gadjo_dilo]

7 May 1986
Steaua Bucharest became the first eastern team that won the European Champions Cup
. Against Barcelona.....
Helmuth Duckadam entered the Guiness Book for the only goalkeeper who SAVED 4 penallties in a row.
Good God.....What a night I had.......

http://youtu.be/RiXgSXstYZY

[janvanvurpa]

In 1805 a group of primarily Greek and Arab mercenaries led by US Marines raised a US flag in Derma, Tripoli. This was done after a declaration of war on the US that was made when the Pasha of Tripoli cut down the US flagstaff at the US Consulate.

It was the first time the US flag was raised on foreign soil. The event is mentioned to this day in the Marines Hymn. The actions took place as a result of piracy and large ransom demands to have the men returned. Sweden and the Swedish Royal Navy were also involved, though to be honest I'm not all that clear for the reasons they were the only other country involved.

It was also these actions that had great influence on creating a formal US Navy.



Over 2000 years later, the US and many other countries continue to fight piracy through multinational organizations in many parts of the globe.

Once a Marine , always a Marine....but I think you're laying it on a bit thick with the 2000 years..


proof read much?

[airshifter]

Once a Marine , always a Marine....but I think you're laying it on a bit thick with the 2000 years..


proof read much?


Ha! I felt the sting of that one!


But that's ok. The other day I found some old motocross and road racing photos from the 70's, and it feels like it was 1000 years ago. I'd bet you would probably be one of the only people on the forums that could name the types of MX bikes in question. There is one that might stump even you, maybe I'll have to scan it and put it up in the history forum.

[Rudy Tamasz]

Today is the day when I got yelled at by my wife. She was unhappy that me and Rudy Jr. cut up a cardboard folder which she needed. So far the biggest event of the day for me.

[janvanvurpa]

Ha! I felt the sting of that one!


But that's ok. The other day I found some old motocross and road racing photos from the 70's, and it feels like it was 1000 years ago. I'd bet you would probably be one of the only people on the forums that could name the types of MX bikes in question. There is one that might stump even you, maybe I'll have to scan it and put it up in the history forum.


Feels like it was last month to me...I was talking to a friend about the need for "dedicated practice beyond comfort level" if he was ever to attain any competence---the whole idea of muscle memory because things just happen too fat for brains to keep up, and even reflexes can't help---his reaction time on a test thing was 0.325 sec for a guy in his 20s... mine, despite every finger broken 2-5 or more times arthritis, and being 61 was a consistent 0.181-0.185 sec----and I mentioned a track in Sweden where i had practiced.. I sketched it roughly---then found Google Maps and there you could see the parts they kept since then and traces of the track from 35 years ago.. Done a number of other tracks, same thing...
I can tell you bikes, bore/stroke, gears weights, what worked, what didn't...
THAT i was serious about, everything since is just for fun.


By the way, I think the Act of Congress authorizing the construction of some way over the top "super" frigates named Constitution, President, Constellation, the United States may have been a hint that somebody was serious about a Navy--back in 1793 or '94..
I imagine you've head of them...

[gadjo_dilo]

It's 9 May so:

http://www.eusa.eu/files/News/2013/eu-europe_day.jpg

:wave: to all euros on this forum.
Love you guys!

[Tazio]

I missed it by a couple days but May 19th was the 150th anniversary of the death of the great Nathaniel Hawthorne
http://www.history.com/news/10-things-you-may-not-know-about-nathaniel-hawthorne

[Gregor-y]

Today is Sun Ra's 100th birthday. At least for his earthly form.

[journeyman racer]

It was about this point in time, 583 years ago, St Joan of Arc was burnt at the stake.

[Tazio]

It was about this point in time, 583 years ago, St Joan of Arc was burnt at the stake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcM8ilpHsfQ

"Glasdale, come out that I may send you to hell!"

Milla Jovovich :love:

[Tazio]

On this date in 1589 The English Armada led by Sir Francis Drake was soundly defeated by elements of Spain’s naval forces under Don Alonso de Santander, at The Battle of Lisbon

[Mintexmemory]

On this date in 1589 The English Armada led by Sir Francis Drake was soundly defeated by elements of Spain’s naval forces under Don Alonso de Santander, at The Battle of Lisbon

Actually, 'soundly frustrated by their inability to organise a coherent siege of Lisbon and chucking it in when disease and desertion capped a succession of mission creep, internecine quarrels, and a string of small blunders' is nearer the mark. To present Lisbon as any sort of military success resulting from the Spanish efforts is specious. One of the great self-inflicted debacles of history.

[Tazio]

:stareup: 11,000 casualties to 900 sounds like a thorough ass whipping' to me! :arrows:

[Mintexmemory]

No pitched battle, and while 11,000 'casualties' was the total for the campaign virtually none were due to wounds inflicted by the Spanish. For the sake of balance, similarly very few Spanish casualties were caused by English sailors when the Spanish Armada imploded.

[gadjo_dilo]

6 June 1944 - D-Day, The allied invasion of Normandy

[Tazio]

No pitched battle, and while 11,000 'casualties' was the total for the campaign virtually none were due to wounds inflicted by the Spanish. For the sake of balance, similarly very few Spanish casualties were caused by English sailors when the Spanish Armada imploded.I beg to differ there were significant casualties in the siege and skirmishes in Corruna on both sides. "the English abandoned the siege, having lost four captains and several hundred soldiers in the fighting"
However your points are all well taken, and it really was fortuitous for Spain that that optimistic campaign failed as it could have brought Spain to its knees.

[gadjo_dilo]

July 14 1789 - The fall of the Bastille. - just remembered cos I was on a street with this name.:p
National day of France

[airshifter]

July 14 1789 - The fall of the Bastille. - just remembered cos I was on a street with this name.:p
National day of France

A helpful one for me. I have a US friend who is currently spending time in France. Now I can wish him a fun Bastille Day and make him think I just remember such things. :laugh:

[D-Type]

July 15th 1978 I got married :love: :arrows:

[gadjo_dilo]

Happy anniversary D-Type.
July 15th is also the day when my father died. :s

[pino]

I was born on July 15th :D

[donKey jote]

tanti auguri for domani... tillykke med fødselsdagen :beer:

[pino]

Grazie, mange tak donkey ! :)

[gadjo_dilo]

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:kiss:

[pino]

Wow that's very sweet gadjo, tante grazie :)

[gadjo_dilo]

Prego. :laugh:

[steveaki13]

I dont know anything that I have done on July 15th.

Anyway happy anniversary D Type and happy Birthday Pino.

Wishing you both well.

[gadjo_dilo]

tillykke med fødselsdagen :beer:

Is it posible to pronounce this without knotting the tongue?:confused:

[pino]

Thanks steve ! :up:

Gadjo, Danish is easier than you think ;)

[Rollo]

15th July 1964 - The first edition of "The Australian" is published and the second generation of that prize grot of a family begins their own media empire.
"The Australian" was started by man who loves the country of his birth so much, that he tore up the passport of the country that he came from. It's perhaps fitting that one of his former column writers is now the Prime Minister.

Dark day.

[D-Type]

July 15th is also St Swithun's Day


The name of Swithun is best known today for a British proverb, which says that if it rains on Saint Swithun's day, 15 July, it will rain for 40 days.

St Swithun's day if thou dost rain
For forty days it will remain
St Swithun's day if thou be fair
For forty days 'twill rain nae mare

[pino]

On July 15th 1997, king of fashion Gianni Versace, was murdered at Miami Beach.

[Tazio]

July 15 2010:

After 86 days of gushing oil into the Gulf of Mexico and several previous attempts to contain the flow, BP caps its leaking oil well. :rolleyes:

[airshifter]

July 16, 1969 at right about my current time, Apollo 11 leaves the earth, with the intentions of placing a human on the moon.

A period of great ambition in space flights, the mission was the final step in the challenge issues by President Kennedy in a 1961 speech

"I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the Moon and returning him safely to the Earth. No single space project in this period will be more impressive to mankind, or more important in the long-range exploration of space; and none will be so difficult or expensive to accomplish."

Though the Apollo 11 mission was successful, placing a man on the mood did sadly bear a cost in the form of human life. Three astronauts died in 1967 as the result of a fire while testing the command module. If anything it gave the leadership even more motivation to fulfill the goals set by the President.


Gene Kranz was one of the people at NASA during this period, and was at the helm as flight director when the Eagle landed on the surface of the moon. Years later he became well known for his role in the Apollo 13 problems. His leadership earlier in the program was just as strong, and I consider him one of the great achievers and leaders of his time. He is way up on my list of people I'd like to meet.

After the Apollo 1 fire, Kranz addressed his team at NASA with the below, which would come to be known as "The Kranz Dictum"

”Spaceflight will never tolerate carelessness, incapacity, and neglect. Somewhere, somehow, we screwed up. It could have been in design, build, or test. Whatever it was, we should have caught it. We were too gung ho about the schedule and we locked out all of the problems we saw each day in our work. Every element of the program was in trouble and so were we. The simulators were not working, Mission Control was behind in virtually every area, and the flight and test procedures changed daily. Nothing we did had any shelf life. Not one of us stood up and said, ‘Dammit, stop!’ I don’t know what Thompson’s committee will find as the cause, but I know what I find. We are the cause! We were not ready! We did not do our job. We were rolling the dice, hoping that things would come together by launch day, when in our hearts we knew it would take a miracle. We were pushing the schedule and betting that the Cape would slip before we did.

From this day forward, Flight Control will be known by two words: ‘Tough’ and ‘Competent.’ Tough means we are forever accountable for what we do or what we fail to do. We will never again compromise our responsibilities. Every time we walk into Mission Control we will know what we stand for. Competent means we will never take anything for granted. We will never be found short in our knowledge and in our skills. Mission Control will be perfect. When you leave this meeting today you will go to your office and the first thing you will do there is to write ‘Tough and Competent’ on your blackboards. It will never be erased. Each day when you enter the room these words will remind you of the price paid by Grissom, White, and Chaffee. These words are the price of admission to the ranks of Mission Control.”