George Zimmerman verdict just in . . .

[Spafranco]

You don't get it.

Crime was a big issue in Germany before the Nazis took over. They made it a major part of their election platform. Once they took over the came down hard on what they considered criminal and it quickly dropped.

The Soviets were also adept at keeping crime under control.

You have no grasp of irony. You were talking about how we accept crime in the US as a price of what we consider a freedom and right and I was just showing you that if you believe that the low crime is worth giving up your rights then you would have loved the Nazis and the Soviets.
What in the name of all that is good and holy are you blathering about? Where on earth did I say crime was a part of being free?
Stop cherry picking and address how you equate the murder of 6 million people under the Nazi regime as being part of a low "crime rate". Get with the program. Even answering you is making me nauseous.

[ioan]

Most European countries do not have the basic freedom of speech so yes....You are being repressed.

Most European countries being Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Albania, all of which are about the same freedom of speech level as the US.
The other 30+ countries are obviously repressed into having to live with low levels of crime! I can live with this kind of repression!

[ioan]

So you take issue with the fact that he was out keeping an eye on the neighborhood in an effort to reduce crime? If protecting property is something you take issue with, remember that when someone robs your home or vandalizes your ​car.

You mean lil' George of the Jungle was out playing Batman that evening? Or was it Spiderman he was playing?!
Maybe people should stop watching those Hollywood movies, it would make them less susceptible to run after hooded Afro-American youths and get into physical contact with them. One effed up society, I tell ya!

[vhatever]

You mean lil' George of the Jungle was out playing Batman that evening? Or was it Spiderman he was playing?!
Maybe people should stop watching those Hollywood movies, it would make them less susceptible to run after hooded Afro-American youths and get into physical contact with them. One effed up society, I tell ya!


Yep, the first thing Batman always does is call the cops and beg for them to hurry up to the scene.

[zako85]

I liked president Obama's speech yesterday. He was visibly upset with the tragedy in Trayvon Martin's family. Nonetheless, he basically said that the whole judicial process and verdict were just, specially due to the reasonable doubt standard. If you didn't know, he studied and taught law before getting into politics. He also went on to discuss some problems effecting the lives of primarily African-American communities in the US, such as a high level of black on black rate. Had a white politician said this, he would have been torn apart, but Obama's speech was praised all day long. To be frank about this issue and to have credibility with the public, the president who said this had to be black. Just like to have the credibility with the American people to end the Cold War and make a peace deal with Gorbachev, the US president Reagan had to be a Republican.

[vhatever]

I liked president Obama's speech yesterday. He was visibly upset with the tragedy in Trayvon Martin's family. Nonetheless, he basically said that the whole judicial process and verdict were just, specially due to the reasonable doubt standard. If you didn't know, he studied and taught law before getting into politics. He also went on to discuss some problems effecting the lives of primarily African-American communities in the US, such as a high level of black on black rate. Had a white politician said this, he would have been torn apart, but Obama's speech was praised all day long. To be frank about this issue and to have credibility with the public, the president who said this had to be black. Just like to have the credibility with the American people to end the Cold War and make a peace deal with Gorbachev, the US president Reagan had to be a Republican.

He made major mistakes in doubling down on stupid with the "trayvon could have been me" nonsense, and the even worse claim that things would have been different if trayvon would have been white. The media always slobs on Obama's knob no matter what he does or says so that's pretty much irrelevant.

[ioan]

He made major mistakes in doubling down on stupid with the "trayvon could have been me" nonsense, and the even worse claim that things would have been different if trayvon would have been white. The media always slobs on Obama's knob no matter what he does or says so that's pretty much irrelevant.

Sure sure, because stereotyping does not happen in the USA, right?!

[Rollo]

Sure sure, because stereotyping does not happen in the USA, right?!

And police wouldn't delay investigating such a thing for weeks and weeks either, would they? ;)

[zako85]

He made major mistakes in doubling down on stupid with the "trayvon could have been me" nonsense, and the even worse claim that things would have been different if trayvon would have been white. The media always slobs on Obama's knob no matter what he does or says so that's pretty much irrelevant.

Who knows why the pres said that? Maybe the pres remembered the days when he smoked the pot or walked the streets wearing a hoodie? Who knows, I won't nitpick him for that. The pres did not need to lower his speech standard to the level of a run out of mill internet forum, you know. He also said that Martin's chances of dying from a hand of black person were much higher. That's was quite powerful remark. He did not express any sympathy for Zimmerman, but he also did not bash him like others do.

[vhatever]

Who knows why the pres said that? Maybe the pres remembered the days when he smoked the pot or walked the streets wearing a hoodie? Who knows, I won't nitpick him for that.

Nitpick? he's supposed to the president of the united states. not a racist shill carrying water for pieces of trash like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.



The pres did not need to lower his speech standard to the level of a run out of mill internet forum, you know.

Surely he did not, so why he sunk to an even lower level than an internet forum is shocking,



He also said that Martin's chances of dying from a hand of black person were much higher. That's was quite powerful remark.


OMG he told the truth about SOMETHING. wow, what an amazing president. He didn't lie through his teeth. Of course just moments after saying that he qualified his statement about criminality among blacks being linked to slavery, right back to his blame whitey wheelhouse. So here's a giant racist turd burger to go with your sesame seed of truth.


He did not express any sympathy for Zimmerman, but he also did not bash him like others do.

Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete. How noble of him to not pour gasoline on that fire he was part in starting, what with the witch hunt his equally racist conartist heading the DOJs is leading.

[Starter]

..... He also said that Martin's chances of dying from a hand of black person were much higher. .....
That's the part which I find most interesting. It's a true statement and has been true for many years. The same can not be said of the Asian, Hispanic, white or even indian populations. Why is that? And when are many of the so called black leaders going to wake up to the fact instead of blaming their woes on whites? It was said best in an old Pogo cartoon - "We have met the enemy and he is us.".

[Tazio]

Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete.

Fact is that Zimm got his ass kicked by a 17 y.o. boy, which basically demonstrates why his aplication was turned down by the police force, as they generally don't hire totall pussies for a job that requires the ability to subdue those you are stalking/observing. I also don't feel sorry for Martin, because the last thing that probably went through his mind beside the lead slug that the coward fired through it was:
How nice it fells to be beating the living crap out of that pussy of a wanna be cop.... Snap FTW.

[vhatever]

Fact is that Zimm got his ass kicked by a 17 y.o. boy, which basically demonstrates why his aplication was turned down by the police force, as they generally don't hire totall pussies for a job that requires the ability to subdue those you are stalking/observing. I also don't feel sorry for Martin, because the last thing that probably went through his mind beside the lead slug that the coward fired through it was:
How nice it fells to be beating the living crap out of that pussy of a wanna be cop.... Snap FTW.

The internet will never lack for tough guys.

[Tazio]

cock

[anthonyvop]

Sure sure, because stereotyping does not happen in the USA, right?!

Less than it does in Europe that is for sure.

[anthonyvop]

Fact is that Zimm got his ass kicked by a 17 y.o. boy, which basically demonstrates why his aplication was turned down by the police force, as they generally don't hire totall pussies for a job that requires the ability to subdue those you are stalking/observing. I also don't feel sorry for Martin, because the last thing that probably went through his mind beside the lead slug that the coward fired through it was:
How nice it fells to be beating the living crap out of that pussy of a wanna be cop.... Snap FTW.

Nothing screams "Coward" louder than a guy who acts tough because he has a badge.

[Tazio]

Nothing screams "Coward" louder than a guy who acts tough because he has a badge.A 'professional police officer' probably would have had no trouble questioning, and detaining Martin if necessary, without having to "act tough". So be specific when you refer to professional law enforcement officers showing cowardice in this matter, or one exactly like it!
Thanks in advance,
Vic

[anthonyvop]

A 'professional police officer' probably would have had no trouble questioning, and detaining Martin if necessary, without having to "act tough". So be specific when you refer to professional law enforcement officers showing cowardice in this matter, or one exactly like it!
Thanks in advance,
Vic


Ask the victims of Columbine how brave the police are. Ask the 1000's of innocent people who's homes are broken into and assaulted by "Brave" Swat teams wearing masks to hide their identity.

[anthonyvop]

This just gets better and better

Trayvon Martin Alledged to Have Assaulted His Teacher - The Shark Tank - The Shark Tank (http://shark-tank.net/2013/07/20/trayvon-martin-alledged-to-have-assaulted-his-teacher/)

[zako85]

OMG he told the truth about SOMETHING. wow, what an amazing president. He didn't lie through his teeth. Of course just moments after saying that he qualified his statement about criminality among blacks being linked to slavery, right back to his blame whitey wheelhouse. So here's a giant racist turd burger to go with your sesame seed of truth.


He said something that's not entirely correct in this sanitized world created by our media. It takes guts to do that.




Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete. How noble of him to not pour gasoline on that fire he was part in starting, what with the witch hunt his equally racist conartist heading the DOJs is leading.

Let's not pretend the Zimmerman was an innocent goat here. At very least, he is guilty of having had a very poor judgement. If he did not play a wanna be cop and stayed in his vehicle, as advised, none of this would have happened. Not guilty verdict does not mean innocent in a broad understanding of this word. We will never find out the full details of his altercation with Trayvon Martin. At worst, Zimmerman might have committed a manslaughter or a murder, but that couldn't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in court.

[Tazio]

Ask the victims of Columbine how brave the police are. Ask the 1000's of innocent people who's homes are broken into and assaulted by "Brave" Swat teams wearing masks to hide their identity.Good God Tony, :laugh: how do any of your examples compare with the subject approach of a policeman in the Martin affair? Any cop (at least the ones in Southern Cal, Nevada, and Arizona that work my neck of the woods) would have the type of interview with Martin that would get his undivided attention round here (even if we do arrest too many people in Southern Cal.) The police are not to be messed with here, and put in the same situation as Zimm, would have ended it without killing Martin most assuredly) you follow instructions from the cops down here they won't kill you, but they might scare you :fat:

[vhatever]

He said something that's not entirely correct in this sanitized world created by our media. It takes guts to do that.

Not something. One thing. ONE. And it doesn't make up for 20 minutes of unmitigated bull**** that came out of his race baiting mouth.



Let's not pretend the Zimmerman was an innocent goat here. At very least, he is guilty of having had a very poor judgement. If he did not play a wanna be cop and stayed in his vehicle, as advised, none of this would have happened. Not guilty verdict does not mean innocent in a broad understanding of this word. We will never find out the full details of his altercation with Trayvon Martin. At worst, Zimmerman might have committed a manslaughter or a murder, but that couldn't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in court.

now you have taken to lying to defend the indefensible. he was NEVER told to stay in his car. He was told to keep an eye on trayvon to tell the operator if he did anything else. If anything, this was a suggestion to gt out of his vehicle to follow Martin. Only after he already got out of his car did the operator say "we don't need you to do that. After that, we have not seen one shred of evidence/proof that Zimmerman did NOT stop following Martin. So let's not pretend you have any idea what you are talking about. You don't. The only thing zimmerman was guilty of was being born with his German last name. If his name was Gonzales, no one would heard of or cared about this case.
.

[Spafranco]

Nitpick? he's supposed to the president of the united states. not a racist shill carrying water for pieces of trash like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.



Surely he did not, so why he sunk to an even lower level than an internet forum is shocking,




OMG he told the truth about SOMETHING. wow, what an amazing president. He didn't lie through his teeth. Of course just moments after saying that he qualified his statement about criminality among blacks being linked to slavery, right back to his blame whitey wheelhouse. So here's a giant racist turd burger to go with your sesame seed of truth.


Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete. How noble of him to not pour gasoline on that fire he was part in starting, what with the witch hunt his equally racist conartist heading the DOJs is leading.

Reading your posts leaves me without any doubt as to who the biggest racist on these boards lies. It seems to me, just observing and getting ready for forceful expulsion of dinner with your every post. If it isn't Trayvon Martin it's the President. Why don't you just put your burning cross on display and be done with it.

[Spafranco]

[quote="anthonyvop"]Less than it does in Europe that is for sure.[/QUOTE

Damn, you're so educated on everything European. I wonder what Andorra is like? Hmm, you where it is Tony. Tell me what type of stereotyping exists there.

[Roamy]

Hey Alca you rockpile the reason we have guns is because when some effing punk want to ground and pound we just cap them. you see the idea is all people don't have to
look like NFL players to survive.

[ioan]

Less than it does in Europe that is for sure.

I bet you feel a surge of intelligence when you post these pearls! :laugh:

[Spafranco]

Ask the victims of Columbine how brave the police are. Ask the 1000's of innocent people who's homes are broken into and assaulted by "Brave" Swat teams wearing masks to hide their identity.

1,000's? as ludicrous as your who's!

[airshifter]

I liked president Obama's speech yesterday. He was visibly upset with the tragedy in Trayvon Martin's family. Nonetheless, he basically said that the whole judicial process and verdict were just, specially due to the reasonable doubt standard. If you didn't know, he studied and taught law before getting into politics. He also went on to discuss some problems effecting the lives of primarily African-American communities in the US, such as a high level of black on black rate. Had a white politician said this, he would have been torn apart, but Obama's speech was praised all day long. To be frank about this issue and to have credibility with the public, the president who said this had to be black. Just like to have the credibility with the American people to end the Cold War and make a peace deal with Gorbachev, the US president Reagan had to be a Republican.

I agree that only a black President (or any other politician) could say that without backlash, but to me... that is due to the racist undertones of the nation. If it's a true statement it shouldn't matter who says it, the reception should be the same IMO.

I personally think that for the most part the well known and followed religious leaders that claim to protect the black community stir the pot for self serving reasons and really have no interest in racial equality. Some of the lesser known types speak what they think is truth, regardless of the reaction. For the most part I really think that the now gone true civil rights leaders would roll in their graves if they knew what their movements were turned into over the decades.



Good God Tony, :laugh: how do any of your examples compare with the subject approach of a policeman in the Martin affair? Any cop (at least the ones in Southern Cal, Nevada, and Arizona that work my neck of the woods) would have the type of interview with Martin that would get his undivided attention round here (even if we do arrest too many people in Southern Cal.) The police are not to be messed with here, and put in the same situation as Zimm, would have ended it without killing Martin most assuredly) you follow instructions from the cops down here they won't kill you, but they might scare you :fat:

I agree that in most places a uniformed cop is hiding behind nothing, and to be honest don't get the stab at police. As for SWAT teams, masks protect identities which protects families and off duty people. Considering the types involved in higher level crimes not cowardly at all IMO.

But in all fairness, cops are identified by uniform and also open carry their weapons. I don't think Florida law allows open carry by normal citizens. I have no idea if a community patrol or neighborhood watch could adopt uniforms, but I doubt most people would want to deal with that either.

[Tazio]

Hey Alca you rockpile the reason we have guns is because when some effing punk want to ground and pound we just cap them. you see the idea is all people don't have to
look like NFL players to survive.Carry as many guns as you want hoss, All I'm saying is that a real cop would have handled the Martin incedent much better than that pudgy little ******* Z.....

[vhatever]

Officials: George Zimmerman helped 4 get out of overturned SUV a few days after his acquittal | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/22/officials-george-zimmerman-helped-4-get-out-overturned-suv-few-days-after-his/)

Looks like the wanna-be cop is up to it again. Thankfully the people who he helped were not troglodyte savages who tried to beat him to death.

[Garry Walker]

What a load of nonsense this whole case was. It should have received very little media coverage, but of course, because the "victim" was black and the "offender" from another race, then media had a field day with this. There are hundreds of cases of murders committed by blacks on other races each month (and far worse ones), yet no coverage for those. I wonder why.

Of course the verdict in the end was the correct one and it is good we have one less drugged up criminal in the world now, sadly one innocent guy had his life ruined forever because of media bias.


Shoot them is your answer? If they attack you and try to injure you, then yes.


You don't get it.

Crime was a big issue in Germany before the Nazis took over. They made it a major part of their election platform. Once they took over the came down hard on what they considered criminal and it quickly dropped.

The Soviets were also adept at keeping crime under control.
.
Except the crime rates did not go down, they just were not talked about. The crime rates in USSR were very high, but officially there was little crime committed. Reality was very different.


You mean lil' George of the Jungle was out playing Batman that evening? Or was it Spiderman he was playing?!
Maybe people should stop watching those Hollywood movies, it would make them less susceptible to run after hooded Afro-American youths and get into physical contact with them. One effed up society, I tell ya!
Maybe if Afro-american youths were not such a huge dangerous element in society (just look at the crime rate of blacks), then people would not suspect them of being up to bad things all the time.

He made major mistakes in doubling down on stupid with the "trayvon could have been me"
One can dream :laugh:


Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete. How noble of him to not pour gasoline on that fire he was part in starting, what with the witch hunt his equally racist conartist heading the DOJs is leading. Indeed.


That's the part which I find most interesting. It's a true statement and has been true for many years. The same can not be said of the Asian, Hispanic, white or even indian populations. Why is that? And when are many of the so called black leaders going to wake up to the fact instead of blaming their woes on whites? It was said best in an old Pogo cartoon - "We have met the enemy and he is us.".
Till everyone who dares to point out problems within black community (and lets face it, the problems are huge and self-created), gets attacked and labelled a racist, nothing will change. Blacks will keep killing eachother and whites (and others) at an alarming rate and yet somehow it will still be seen as the fault of slavery, cuckoo clocks and everything else irrelevant in the present situation.


Let's not pretend the Zimmerman was an innocent goat here. At very least, he is guilty of having had a very poor judgement. If he did not play a wanna be cop and stayed in his vehicle, as advised, none of this would have happened. He was out of his car already when told that and was returning to his car when this trogolodyte attacked him, right?


Not guilty verdict does not mean innocent in a broad understanding of this word. What does it mean then?


Officials: George Zimmerman helped 4 get out of overturned SUV a few days after his acquittal | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/22/officials-george-zimmerman-helped-4-get-out-overturned-suv-few-days-after-his/)

Looks like the wanna-be cop is up to it again. Thankfully the people who he helped were not troglodyte savages who tried to beat him to death.
Indeed.

[Spafranco]

Officials: George Zimmerman helped 4 get out of overturned SUV a few days after his acquittal | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/22/officials-george-zimmerman-helped-4-get-out-overturned-suv-few-days-after-his/)

Looks like the wanna-be cop is up to it again. Thankfully the people who he helped were not troglodyte savages who tried to beat him to death.


not troglodyte savages who tried to beat him to death.[/QUOTE]

Your inference here of course is your impression of Trayvon Martin. How much lower can you go? The kid is dead, his parents and family are mourning the loss of a child and YOU characterize him as a savage. You are a sad indictment of too many in this land. Good that you are in the minority , bad that those that ARE/WERE good had to give up their lives to allow you and the neanderthal types to post as flagrant a racist comment full of poisonous invective language that you can't for a moment let go and show some form of decency if not for Trayvon, at least for his family.

[Garry Walker]

Your inference here of course is your impression of Trayvon Martin. How much lower can you go? The kid is dead, his parents and family are mourning the loss of a child and YOU characterize him as a savage. You are a sad indictment of too many in this land. Good that you are in the minority , bad that those that ARE/WERE good had to give up their lives to allow you and the neanderthal types to post as flagrant a racist comment full of poisonous invective language that you can't for a moment let go and show some form of decency if not for Trayvon, at least for his family.

Why is he dead? Because he was drugged up and attacked an innocent man, not expecting that man to be armed (thankfully he was). In addition to this he was supposedly a burglar and he very clearly was a racist. All in all, this boy was not an example of a good citizen, rather, he was your average crook. His death is no loss to society.

[Spafranco]

Your inference here of course is your impression of Trayvon Martin. How much lower can you go? The kid is dead, his parents and family are mourning the loss of a child and YOU characterize him as a savage. You are a sad indictment of too many in this land. Good that you are in the minority , bad that those that ARE/WERE good had to give up their lives to allow you and the neanderthal types to post as flagrant a racist comment full of poisonous invective language that you can't for a moment let go and show some form of decency if not for Trayvon, at least for his family.[/QUOTE]

Walker, I read your sad missal and it seems you and vhatever must march habnd in hand with the likes of Nathan Forrest.

It's pitiful.

[Spafranco]

Garry Walker, I read your sad missal and it seems you and vhatever must march hand in hand with the likes of Nathan Forrest.

It's pitiful.

[Garry Walker]

Walker, I read your sad missal and it seems you and vhatever must march habnd in hand with the likes of Nathan Forrest.

It's pitiful.

So you have no valid argument against what I said, rather than that you just go for the "racism" attack, as your kind of people so often do when they have no arguments left. No surprise.

[Spafranco]

Why is he dead? Because he was drugged up and attacked an innocent man, not expecting that man to be armed (thankfully he was). In addition to this he was supposedly a burglar and he very clearly was a racist. All in all, this boy was not an example of a good citizen, rather, he was your average crook. His death is no loss to society.

Have you been to university? Have you ever even contemplated the drivel you are spewing. Zimmerman may have been acquitted but he certainly was not innocent. He escalated an event and the "drugged" up state of mind that you present where Trayvon Martin is concerned is bogus.
Toxicology reports indicate a man who had used some marijuana at some stage. Can you explain to me what level one must reach to be drugged up? What is the ration between blood levels and marijuana levels that lead to being drugged up? "Supposedly" a burglar? He was a "racist" unlike you of course. You are I take it an African American man, correct?

I will bet you're a Randy Weaver disciple. One of those great models of society we are stuck with in this land of ours and that we unfortunately are uncovered every now and then when a sorry event such as this occurs.
I dare say that reading your screed that you would not be any loss to the society that I dwell in.

[Spafranco]

So you have no valid argument against what I said, rather than that you just go for the "racism" attack, as your kind of people so often do when they have no arguments left. No surprise.

Although I made a typo(habnd(sic) , you would be better off reading the post before you answer with an idiotic retort that is in itself a full declaration in it's content in agreement with what I suggested.

and of itself

[Roamy]

Your inference here of course is your impression of Trayvon Martin. How much lower can you go? The kid is dead, his parents and family are mourning the loss of a child and YOU characterize him as a savage. You are a sad indictment of too many in this land. Good that you are in the minority , bad that those that ARE/WERE good had to give up their lives to allow you and the neanderthal types to post as flagrant a racist comment full of poisonous invective language that you can't for a moment let go and show some form of decency if not for Trayvon, at least for his family.

Walker, I read your sad missal and it seems you and vhatever must march habnd in hand with the likes of Nathan Forrest.

It's pitiful.[/QUOTE]

If Zimmerman was the biggest racist in Florida he is still not Guilty - YOu just don't get it. And even with our lame government wanting to charge a hate crime he is STiLL not guilty.
What part of Trayvon attacked Zimmerman are you not getting??? If you want to stop violence in this country you are going to have to use violence in the fatal order.

[Roamy]

Carry as many guns as you want hoss, All I'm saying is that a real cop would have handled the Martin incedent much better than that pudgy little ******* Z.....

And I doubt if Trayvon would have attacked a real cop or anyone close to his size. A cop would have been in uniform and the punk would have also known he was armed.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Oh my word someone please close this thread! It's gone from being a heated (yet on-topic) debate about the trail, to certain racist members making sweeping generalisations about people based on the colour of their skin.

[Garry Walker]

Have you been to university? Yes and indeed I have finished it with successfully. Have you been to the 7th grade? It certainly looks like you didn't finish it.



Have you ever even contemplated the drivel you are spewing. Zimmerman may have been acquitted but he certainly was not innocent.Oh really? What was he guilty of then? Being attacked by a drugged up racist?

He escalated an event and the "drugged" up state of mind that you present where Trayvon Martin is concerned is bogus. What bogus? Did Martin have drugs in his system? The only one who escalated the event is the one who got shot in the end. Hint - that was not Zimmerman. Zimmerman did what any decent and brave citizen would do.



Toxicology reports indicate a man who had used some marijuana at some stage. Can you explain to me what level one must reach to be drugged up? What is the ration between blood levels and marijuana levels that lead to being drugged up?
So he was a user of drugs? That is all I wanted confirmed.


"Supposedly" a burglar? Weren't there reports of some tools used for burgling found?


He was a "racist" unlike you of course. Yes, he was a racist. He used the word "cracker" which is as racist of a term as "nigger", yet funnily enough there is little outcry regarding that in the media. As if somehow racist terms on whites are okay.


You are I take it an African American man, correct? No.
Are you?



I will bet you're a Randy Weaver disciple. One of those great models of society we are stuck with in this land of ours and that we unfortunately are uncovered every now and then when a sorry event such as this occurs.Never heard of him and I would not consider myself anyone's disciple. I'd rather have people follow me :)


I dare say that reading your screed that you would not be any loss to the society that I dwell in.That is your perogative and I certainly won't lose sleep over that.


Although I made a typo(habnd(sic) , you would be better off reading the post before you answer with an idiotic retort that is in itself a full declaration in it's content in agreement with what I suggested.
So basically, you have no argument left and all you have left is yelling and stomping your feet like a 6 year old kid at the store who is not getting his candy?


Oh my word someone please close this thread! It's gone from being a heated (yet on-topic) debate about the trail, to certain racist members making sweeping generalisations about people based on the colour of their skin.
Where do you see racism in this thread? You are, as pointed out beforehand in this topic, one of those people who after the mentioning of serious problems regarding the black community, will cry racism and try to stop the debate. It is because of such behaviour the problems are not going anywhere and no solution is offered. When I say that the danger posed by young black males is alarming and high, I can back that up with facts. The crime rates are alarming and very worrying. That is not a racist thing to say. What is alarming and even more dangerous is that people try to stop the debate on that issue with their cries of racism, due to which the situation will not improve.

[Starter]

Oh my word someone please close this thread! It's gone from being a heated (yet on-topic) debate about the trail, to certain racist members making sweeping generalisations about people based on the colour of their skin.
Yes, probably time to close it.

I also currently have Spafranco on my ignore list, but people keep quoting him so I can't get away from it. His personal attacks against several other members of the board are way over the top. Those attacks are very much against forum rules. Mods - you need to step up here and advise him to cool it.

[Spafranco]

Walker, I read your sad missal and it seems you and vhatever must march habnd in hand with the likes of Nathan Forrest.

It's pitiful.

If Zimmerman was the biggest racist in Florida he is still not Guilty - YOu just don't get it. And even with our lame government wanting to charge a hate crime he is STiLL not guilty.
What part of Trayvon attacked Zimmerman are you not getting??? If you want to stop violence in this country you are going to have to use violence in the fatal order.[/QUOTE]
There is such a division in this on race and the use of force. The racists are here in abundance on this very thread. It is baffling to read their posts because of the narrow prism within which they view the world.
I don't know and will not bother to count the number of times I have read "you don't get it". Alas, I do. You and your plethora of lemmings have fallen hook line and sinker by a well constructed fairytale where a kid, high or not walking home from a store is accosted and threatened by a wannabe cop who was told/advised to let the police handle the situation went on anyway and got into a fight and killed a 17 year old. Then the kid is now a dead victim with a tarnished reputation.

I will list here countries where I believe the exact scenario taking place and (I would disregard the comments of some person bashing or whatever word was used to suggest) that Zimmerman, feared for his life. Any medical training or even seeing head injuries would tell you that there were no serious life threatening blows. Zimmerman played cop and killed a kid.
I will name a number of countries with the same scenario minus the gun and ask would Zimmerman be dead if this occurred in any European country or Asian that I list;

France,Spain, UK including Jersey Islands , Isle of Man and Northern Ireland. Republic of Ireland, Portugal, Italy, Germany, Hong Kong, Singapore, Japan, Taiwan.

Same scenario, same socio -economic standards. Why would we be the only country that any person would immediately point to if it were included in the list and the rest would have to be given careful consideration.

The answer is easy. It has two facets. Race and guns.

Our National Anthem has a line "Land of the free". It should be reconsidered.

The only reason Zimmerman went after Trayvon Martin is because he had a gun. There is a creepy premeditation in that. Something along the lines of I have a gun so I can approach him. Anything goes wrong...bam! It went wrong, and bam , Trayvon is dead.

Emmett Till all over again.

[Spafranco]

Yes, probably time to close it.

I also currently have Spafranco on my ignore list, but people keep quoting him so I can't get away from it. His personal attacks against several other members of the board are way over the top. Those attacks are very much against forum rules. Mods - you need to step up here and advise him to cool it.

This particular post should be put on a wall and shown to everyone that comes into the room the lack intellectual awareness expressed by this member. He has me on ignore and reads snippets of my posts.

Well, Starter, if you have me on ignore and are reading what I have said by proxy, then in fact you do not have me on ignore.

In addition, these one sided snippets you have read are over the top and you are now guiding the moderators to give me a warning?!!!

You pompous arrogant (satire) ******* hiding behind an ignore (not) selection and you try to control the debate but only single me out when any person with intelligence can see that if I, yes me have gone over the top , then they would have to issue warnings to many more as there have been remarks so inflammatory made by others that the hole forum would have to be shut down.

That post of his is creepy. and I believe I did adhere to one of the moderators who advised two of us to keep it civil. I did, and I believe that the other poster did also.

Keep on trying Starter. One day I may get a yellow or red card. Oh, you don't read my posts. Hahahahahah

[pino]

Keep on trying Starter. One day I may get a yellow or red card. Oh, you don't read my posts. Hahahahahah

That day is very close trust me...




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