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wedge
9th April 2007, 00:19
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/57949

BDunnell
9th April 2007, 00:23
Honda is the F1 equivalent of the Italian government — personnel changing every few months to no real effect. Japanese car manufacturers need to realise that this is no way to compete at the highest level. They have been very prone to this.

ioan
9th April 2007, 00:29
Honda is the F1 equivalent of the Italian government — personnel changing every few months to no real effect. Japanese car manufacturers need to realise that this is no way to compete at the highest level. They have been very prone to this.

They should change that guy, Fry! It might help them a lot.

Ian McC
9th April 2007, 00:51
I can't see Ross Brawn being very interested in this.

ratonmacias
9th April 2007, 02:02
I can't see Ross Brawn being very interested in this.

why not? good pay living in england.

ioan
9th April 2007, 02:34
why not? good pay living in england.

Very good pay, living in Italy!

Sleeper
9th April 2007, 02:55
Honda? Dont you mean the entire field is talking to (or at least trying to talk to) Brawn as they're all going to want him in their team.

cannonman
9th April 2007, 07:16
Good for Honda, I hope they get their man. Brawn can make a boatload of $$$, live in England, and test his engineering mettle by trying to lift the consistently unimpressive honda team out of the gutter.

The important question is: Will he re-hire Jaques Villeneuve!?!?!?!?!?!

wmcot
9th April 2007, 08:30
Honda NEED somebody! Maybe if they hire Ross, he'll bring along a good painter, too! :)

ArrowsFA1
9th April 2007, 08:41
Sounds a bit like Honda admitting they shouldn't have got rid of Willis, but they can't lose face by re-hiring him to fix the problems :dozey: Shuhei Nakamoto can't be feeling too secure at the moment!

Still, if Honda can get Ross Brawn then good luck to them. It might just be the kind of challenge he would be looking for.

F1boat
9th April 2007, 08:43
The trouble is that Ferrari needs Ross as well.

Ranger
9th April 2007, 09:33
The trouble is that Ferrari needs Ross as well.

Now this was just one race. Remember, they did poorly here last year as well, and won 9 races that year.

By all means this wasn't a great day at the scuderia, and all of their bad days will surely strike their own "what if..." line of curiousity.

But really, Ferrari will be very successful this year - there is no trouble. I'm not surprised, but I do find it silly that some people make such sweeping judgements after only round 2 of 17.

F1boat
9th April 2007, 10:41
Well, theoretically Ferrari had trouble in Malaysia even in 2002, but that was because of tyres.
Now they are in trouble. They can fight back, but withour Ross and Michael, it'll be even harder than last year.

Scuderia ferrari
9th April 2007, 11:24
I'm not a big honda fan, but this is the last straw, i now offcially HATE honda, the stupid people should just build a better damned car! I feel sorry for Barrichello being in such a crap team and button is just, an idiot!

DOWN WITH HONDA!

Ian McC
9th April 2007, 13:18
button is just, an idiot!

:dozey:

jens
9th April 2007, 13:46
It would be a good move by Honda, although I also doubt that Ross would be too interested in joining the team. I haven't heard Geoff Willis joining another team - maybe Honda might think about hiring him back? The strong end of last season was still thanks to Willis. So hiring or firing anyone tend to have an effect in half or a whole season.

Interesting that Toyota doesn't have a similar aim. I'm surprised that although Toyota is attempting to hire top drivers, then they are not trying to hire Ross Brawn or any other well-known top specialist... Maybe it takes another year for Toyota to realise that they need an extra guy to get better and they can't do it purely on their own.

wedge
9th April 2007, 14:05
Sounds a bit like Honda admitting they shouldn't have got rid of Willis, but they can't lose face by re-hiring him to fix the problems :dozey: Shuhei Nakamoto can't be feeling too secure at the moment!

Still, if Honda can get Ross Brawn then good luck to them. It might just be the kind of challenge he would be looking for.

Geoff Willis wasn't fired, was he? Willis was demoted and Honda brought in Nakamoto to oversee the technical department.

Due to the size of Geoff's ego, he didn't like this power struggle one bit and simply sulked by walking out the door. If Geoff Willis was a team player then he would've stayed, make use of the time and effort to oversee why the aero department was failing so badly.

Some teams now don't have Technical Directors. Today, positions within teams have become more fragmented for more efficiency, most notably with Williams - Sam Michaels is no long TD, both he and Ron Nelson (formerly Alonso's race engineer at Renault) share the role of a TD but with different roles and responsibilities.

Garry Walker
9th April 2007, 20:40
I wouldnt mind if Honda got Ross, I like Honda. They need some quality leadership, at the moment they are looking like a joke

Easy Drifter
9th April 2007, 21:47
Honda are following Toyota (and Jaguar F1) by constantly replacing/changing top personel. At least Toy and Jag weren't going anywhere but Honda seems to do it as soon as they start to have some success.

Robinho
9th April 2007, 21:50
who wouldn't want Ross Brawn in their team, just look at his track record, the big news would be if he actually took up the offer and worked for Honda, but then the challenge might be just what he needs after years at the top, the battle to get back there might be just what he needs to keep the fire burning

Rusty Spanner
10th April 2007, 10:38
Of course Honda want Ross Brawn (Them and 11 other teams on the grid). The thing about Honda I think is the difference between being capable of winning and knowing how to win. Honda are capable of winning but I'm not sure they know how, which leads to wrong decisions being made.

Ross Brawn knows how to win and played a key roll in turning Ferrari into a dominant force. He'd also have a natural authority within the team because no one would be able to argue with his record. This should bring stability and deter the management from constantly shuffling personel.

Valve Bounce
16th April 2007, 03:31
Interesting concept this - I think Ross Brawn would be a real asset to Super Aguri -

No!! forget bunsen and the team honda snails please. :rolleyes;

odykas
19th April 2007, 22:30
All they need is David Richards!

Garry Walker
20th April 2007, 15:09
Interesting concept this - I think Ross Brawn would be a real asset to Super Aguri -


I agree, but I doubt Ross would want to work with such inferior drivers as SAto and Davidson.

F1woman
25th April 2007, 03:14
This would be great news for Jenson button and Honda