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A.F.F.
30th November 2012, 21:16
What do we know about it so far??

Skoda will drive two cars for 7-8 rallies? What else?

I see WRC-2 as great opportunity if it's promoted well!!! I truly hope manufacturers find it!

Mirek
30th November 2012, 21:41
I think that Škoda will not be present with full factory team. I think they will let Juka Motorsport or BRR to run those cars.

tolis
30th November 2012, 21:53
I think that Škoda will not be present with full factory team. I think they will let Juka Motorsport or BRR to run those cars.
2 cars for Skoda? 1 for Lappi and 1 for...?

had_zachau
30th November 2012, 21:55
I have seen interview with Martin Koci, where he said, that he wants to attend wrc-2 or ERC with fabia s2000

Mirek
30th November 2012, 23:11
2 cars for Skoda? 1 for Lappi and 1 for...?

Sepp Wiegand

EightGear
30th November 2012, 23:26
What about Abbring?

Mintexmemory
1st December 2012, 12:59
What about Abbring?

What about Weijs

EightGear
1st December 2012, 13:14
What about Weijs

I'm not expecting anything big from him to be honest (read: lack of funding). Safest bet would be another season in SA I think.

tommeke_B
1st December 2012, 13:19
I'm not expecting anything big from him to be honest (read: lack of funding). Safest bet would be another season in SA I think.
No reason for him to keep driving in South-Africa with an old Polo S2000... It would be better if he could prove his talent for example in the DS3-trophy in France, to just give an example... I don't know if he'll be still under contract at VW next year. About Abbring, I heard he's still under contract next year but doesn't know what he will be able to drive... So many talented drivers and only few places.

Sulland
1st December 2012, 13:24
Does drivers and teams have to sign up at a date for the season in WRC2, 3 or Junior, or can they just drive the rallies they want?

tommeke_B
1st December 2012, 13:30
Does drivers and teams have to sign up at a date for the season in WRC2, 3 or Junior, or can they just drive the rallies they want?
FIA is probably saying: "We had the opportunity to create a truly amazing championship inside the WRC as step-up to the WRC, but in stead we made WRC2."

Drivers have to sign up before they enter the first event, and then they have to nominate every event they drive, up to 7. So if 2 drivers are fighting for the WRC-2 championship in the beginning and one starts only in the 5th round, the one who starts in the 5th round can still be champion because other drivers have used their 7 tries already... (Or how to win a competition without competition.)

tolis
1st December 2012, 17:53
Abdulaziz Al Kuwari will do WRC-2 next year. Either in a Fiesta RRC or a Mini S2000 1.6T

RS
1st December 2012, 18:38
What makes WRC2 different from sWRC?

EightGear
1st December 2012, 18:45
WRC2 is for all non-WRC 4WD cars. S2000, RRC, group N, R5 etc.

bluuford
1st December 2012, 18:47
All 4WD cars count (exept WRC). you do not need to choose between 8 rounds but you can choose between all rounds.

Mirek
2nd December 2012, 11:02
And what is important You don't nominate Your point scoring events sooner than in the event entry form which could lead to what Tommeke says, main contenders may not meet more than once or twice during the season...

Mintexmemory
2nd December 2012, 11:14
And what is important You don't nominate Your point scoring events sooner than in the event entry form which could lead to what Tommeke says, main contenders may not meet more than once or twice during the season...

In reality because many competitors will want to avoid the cost of long haul we will see a concentration around the European events from Portugal onwards. This means that Italy, NORF and the tarmac rounds are likely to see the top guys head to head.

Mirek
2nd December 2012, 11:32
That doesn't prevent anyone from winning the championship by doing all the most distant events. I don't say he would do it but for example Al Rahji sure can do that.

Mintexmemory
2nd December 2012, 12:08
That doesn't prevent anyone from winning the championship by doing all the most distant events. I don't say he would do it but for example Al Rahji sure can do that.

True - the guys with big budgets can chose the most expensive events for less competition. As you say this could give Al Rajhi an advantage on top of his improvement in 2012

Prisoner Monkeys
3rd December 2012, 01:55
And what is important You don't nominate Your point scoring events sooner than in the event entry form which could lead to what Tommeke says, main contenders may not meet more than once or twice during the season...
I'm pretty sure the best six scores from the first seven events a driver takes part in will count for points. At least, that's what Wikipedia says.

Mirek
3rd December 2012, 08:47
I'm pretty sure the best six scores from the first seven events a driver takes part in will count for points. At least, that's what Wikipedia says.

You can nominate any seven rounds. It can be even last seven rallies of the season or for example first rally in the season and than last six. You make the nomination of each event only in the event entry form so unless You make Your calendar public no-one except You knows where You're going to take points. That's what in my opinion is completely wrong move from FIA.

Original source: 2013 FIA World Rally Championship | Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (http://www.fia.com/2013-fia-world-rally-championship-0)

Prisoner Monkeys
4th December 2012, 00:29
Ah. I was under the impression that WRC-2 drivers could do as many rallies as they liked, but only the first seven results would be counted so as to stop people with bigger budgets doing more rounds and winning the title simply because they could afford more.

tolis
5th December 2012, 20:25
Abdulaziz Al Kuwari will do WRC-2 next year. Either in a Fiesta RRC or a Mini S2000 1.6T
He chose a Fiesta RRC

muratgunarslan
6th December 2012, 13:15
He chose a Fiesta RRC
I think, he will drive Mini S2000 1.6T by TokSport.

bluuford
6th December 2012, 13:25
No, he changed to Ford

muratgunarslan
6th December 2012, 13:27
No, he changed to Ford
OK :up:

Bartolbia84
9th December 2012, 09:10
Al Rajhi?

tolis
10th December 2012, 11:19
Al-Kuwari had a meeting with Malcolm Wilson in Doha
Pooooor Malcolm! :D

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424890_10151313350280673_2065066425_n.jpg

Bartolbia84
10th December 2012, 11:29
Al Kuwari....Fiesta RRC?

PLuto
10th December 2012, 12:08
Yes, he will do it.

tommeke_B
10th December 2012, 12:14
M-Sport offers the same as Prodrive but for 100 camels less... :D

Viking
10th December 2012, 12:47
Al-Kuwari had a meeting with Malcolm Wilson in Doha
Pooooor Malcolm! :D

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424890_10151313350280673_2065066425_n.jpg

"Just need your signature here,here and... here, and the brochure is yours"

tolis
12th December 2012, 23:16
Rashid Al-Ketbi will do WRC-2 starting from MC. Probably in a Fiesta RRC also.
More info about him here: eWRC-results.com - profile Rashid Al-Ketbi (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=8796&t=Rashid-Al-Ketbi)

Prisoner Monkeys
13th December 2012, 03:18
Do you have a source to go with that?

Bartolbia84
13th December 2012, 07:39
Do you have a source to go with that?

SkydiveDubai RallyTeam | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/skydivedubai.rallyteam?fref=ts)

Prisoner Monkeys
13th December 2012, 07:52
Hmmmm. I was really looking to update the 2013 WRC season Wikipedia page, because the WRC-2, -3 and J-WRC categories are sorely lacking ... but a Facebook page doesn't meet the criteria for a reliable source.

Guess I'll just have to wait for the Monte Carlo entry list, then.

PLuto
13th December 2012, 11:45
But this time I think we can count it as reliable source...

alleskids
13th December 2012, 12:28
thus so far we have in the 2013 WRC-2

Esapekka Lappi - Fabia S2000 - Skoda Motorsport
Sepp Wiegand - Fabia S2000 - Skoda Germany
Yazeed Al Rajhi - Fiesta RCC - Al Rajhi Racing
Abdulaziz Al Kuwari - Fiesta RCC - SeaShore Rally Team
Rashid Al-Ketbi - Fiesta RCC - SkyDiveDubai

Leon
14th December 2012, 06:15
thus so far we have in the 2013 WRC-2

Esapekka Lappi - Fabia S2000 - Skoda Motorsport
Sepp Wiegand - Fabia S2000 - Skoda Germany
Yazeed Al Rajhi - Fiesta RCC - Al Rajhi Racing
Abdulaziz Al Kuwari - Fiesta RCC - SeaShore Rally Team
Rashid Al-Ketbi - Fiesta RCC - SkyDiveDubai

It looks to me like a mini MERC :)

Prisoner Monkeys
14th December 2012, 11:32
But this time I think we can count it as reliable source...
For our purposes, yes.

However, I cannot add al'Ketbi to the Wikipedia page using the Skydive Team Dubai Facebook page as a source.

Bartolbia84
14th December 2012, 13:47
Marcos Ligato --> Subaru R4 TOP RUN

EightGear
18th December 2012, 15:17
Armin Kremer in WRC2 with a Stohl-Subaru R4?

Kremer peilt neuen Titel an*:: rallye-magazin.de (http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2012/12/18/kremer-peilt-neuen-titel-an/index.html)

Mintexmemory
18th December 2012, 16:47
I imagine Evans will use his 5 event prize to do Portugal, Greece, Sardinia and NORF rounds in Europe and if he's in with a chance at that point look for some additional sponsorship to include a tarmac round or 2 before finishing with Wales

Bartolbia84
18th December 2012, 16:54
I imagine Evans will use his 5 event prize to do Portugal, Greece, Sardinia and NORF rounds in Europe and if he's in with a chance at that point look for some additional sponsorship to include a tarmac round or 2 before finishing with Wales

what are the chances that Evans fulfilled this program of races in 2013?

Mintexmemory
18th December 2012, 17:01
what are the chances that Evans fulfilled this program of races in 2013?
It is not a leap of imagination to see Evans concentrating on the European gravel events for the 5 'free rides' that was his prize for winning the Academy. As to anything more than 5 events we will have to see, but it is an M Sport Fiesta so cash will be required to do tarmac or maybe NZ. It would make sense for Evans to re-visit the events in which he was successful in 2012 but if I had to bet I think he'll maximise his gravel advantage. Anyone who beats him will be going very quickly.

Mad cat jnr
18th December 2012, 17:40
It was either the 5 rounds or a full season in a Fiesta R2, and in an interveiw he said he wasnt sure on which he would choose as the possibility of doing all 13 events was very appealing to him. But maybe now he is working for M-Sport (FST shootout prize) he will take the 5 rounds in 4WD with a discounted rate on the extra rounds?

had_zachau
18th December 2012, 20:36
Lappi has tested near Klatovy today. Looks he was off the road. A few pics (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151306891034894.495570.172046054893&type=1) on RFK's facebook page

A.F.F.
19th December 2012, 03:47
Out of the curiosity, why this never happened?

Dacia Logan S2000 Test - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BP2uAvxDj0)

A.F.F.
19th December 2012, 03:55
Or this: Best of Opel Corsa S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKql5B6rsU)

this: Lada 2112 Rally S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC3GUCdenEw)

or this:Test Toyota Corolla S2000 Grifone - By AvetoWrc - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM1MwUDMEOg)

What a series WRC2 could be, seriously if we had such an amount of manufacturers, or even private teams for that matter.

Rallyper
19th December 2012, 03:56
Or this: Best of Opel Corsa S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKql5B6rsU)

this: Lada 2112 Rally S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC3GUCdenEw)

or this:Test Toyota Corolla S2000 Grifone - By AvetoWrc - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM1MwUDMEOg)

What a series WRC2 could be, seriously if we had such an amount of manufacturers, or even private teams for that matter.

Are you working nightshift like me, as well? Jobbar du nattskift du ocksĺ?

HarriK
19th December 2012, 10:00
Lappi some test video:
Ĺ*koda Motorsport testovánĂ* Epi Lappi BoĹ™Ă*kovy 18.12.mp4 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTMN0yUNr4E)

Mirek
19th December 2012, 11:19
Or this: Best of Opel Corsa S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nKql5B6rsU)

this: Lada 2112 Rally S2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC3GUCdenEw)

or this:Test Toyota Corolla S2000 Grifone - By AvetoWrc - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM1MwUDMEOg)

What a series WRC2 could be, seriously if we had such an amount of manufacturers, or even private teams for that matter.

Lada no money, Renault went for for 2WD cars, Opel non-factory MSD project died from lack of funding with no promising results at all (I remember when Mikkelsen drove it here on Barum rally 2009 under Hankook flag).

Toyota Corolla has international homologation, it was one of the first S2000 and dozens of them were build. Most of them have been used only in South Africa. The car was solid and reliable but too heavy and never developed for asphalt where S2000 were mostly used. One of those Corollas is here in CZ with one gentleman driver. He drove it in national events and some in Germany.

vino_93
19th December 2012, 12:36
If I remeber right some Toyota went to Australia some years ago, didn't it ?

Mirek
19th December 2012, 12:41
Australian Corollas were different cars built by team of Neil Bates.

rallyfiend
19th December 2012, 13:09
Australian Corollas were different cars built by team of Neil Bates.

These cars weren't able to achieve international homolgation as Toyota Australia did not have a factory in Australia creating this car, so could not request homologation (unlike South Africa) and Japan refused to do so, as this was back in the day when 'Toyota is in Formula 1 - that is our only motorsport'.

bf1_IRL
19th December 2012, 13:30
The Austrailian Toyotas do have Regional Homologation so can do the APRC and Bates did take part in Rally Australia 2009..
http://www.carsguide.com.au/images/uploads/StreetImpact-CarsGuide-WRC-Toyota-Corolla-2009aW.jpg
but we might be going off topic slightly here.. :erm: :)

had_zachau
19th December 2012, 14:46
Lappi tested the change wheel


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp5KCuR3Tfk

Kielder
19th December 2012, 15:00
He tested a donut too :D :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTMN0yUNr4E

MartijnS
19th December 2012, 15:33
Well, test failed than :D

Bartolbia84
19th December 2012, 15:54
PG Andersson is testing in Italy, in the area of Cuneo, the Fiesta S2000 team of Petter Solberg in view of Monte Carlo ... that repliest against the WRC-2 well the Swedes?

Georgi
19th December 2012, 16:34
PG Andersson is testing in Italy, in the area of Cuneo, the Fiesta S2000 team of Petter Solberg in view of Monte Carlo ... that repliest against the WRC-2 well the Swedes?

This will be GREAT if it goes to full WRC-2 campaign !!!
PG is fantastic driver !
Must continue in the big competition !

RS
19th December 2012, 18:57
Any ideas what events Lappi is going to do this year? Is he on the startlist for Monte?

rp
19th December 2012, 19:24
Any ideas what events Lappi is going to do this year? Is he on the startlist for Monte?

Yes, he should drive Monte and has been testing during the last week in CZ...

A.F.F.
19th December 2012, 20:59
Are you working nightshift like me, as well? Jobbar du nattskift du ocksĺ?

Yes I am. Second in a row now.

Bartolbia84
19th December 2012, 21:18
WRC2 - 2013

Wiegard - Skoda S2000
Lappi - Skoda S2000
Al Rajhi - Fiesta RRC
Al Ketbi - Fiesta RRC (10 events)
Al Kuwari - Fiesta RRC
Protasov - Subaru R4 (5 events)
Ligato - Subaru R4
Andersson - Fiesta S2000 ????
XXX - Proton S2000

EightGear
19th December 2012, 21:32
Kremer - Subaru

Micke_VOC
20th December 2012, 07:29
PG Andersson is testing in Italy, in the area of Cuneo, the Fiesta S2000 team of Petter Solberg in view of Monte Carlo ... that repliest against the WRC-2 well the Swedes?

According to Förstasidan | Värmlands Folkblad (http://www.vf.se) today PG are on only testing tires for Hankook for the future, no Monte for him.

bluuford
20th December 2012, 08:49
Maybe Hankook is considering ERC program?

Micke_VOC
20th December 2012, 10:12
Maybe Hankook is considering ERC program?

Or WRC in 2014

had_zachau
20th December 2012, 10:26
WRC2 - 2013

Wiegard - Skoda S2000
Lappi - Skoda S2000
Al Rajhi - Fiesta RRC
Al Ketbi - Fiesta RRC (10 events)
Al Kuwari - Fiesta RRC
Protasov - Subaru R4 (5 events)
Ligato - Subaru R4
Andersson - Fiesta S2000 ????
XXX - Proton S2000

There were rumours about Martin Koci with Fabia s2000

PLuto
20th December 2012, 11:18
Maybe Hankook is considering ERC program?

ERC is not good enough for PG, he wants only WRC...

PLuto
20th December 2012, 11:18
There were rumours about Martin Koci with Fabia s2000

No Monte for Martin.

had_zachau
20th December 2012, 12:07
pluto: he can start his season later. So I hope, he will.

Mirek
20th December 2012, 12:12
Or he can start in ERC as originally planned. It's much easier for logistic.

ZequeArgentina
20th December 2012, 17:28
Why do some insist in running R4 vehicles? It is way clear they have no chance against a S2000!!

pantealex
20th December 2012, 18:00
Why do some insist in running R4 vehicles? It is way clear they have no chance against a S2000!!
This years RallyClass (subaru) prize was some (5?) rallies with R4

tolis
27th December 2012, 18:35
Nicholas Fuchs will do 7 rallies in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X.

ZequeArgentina
27th December 2012, 19:05
Nicholas Fuchs will do 7 rallies in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X.

Fuchs will also run Argentinean Championship wth a VW Maxi Rally.
His team mate in Argentinean championship, Miguel Baldoni, is working also to run some 5 rallies with a Lancer or Subaru R4.

Again, I really do not understand why they spend sponsors and their name running with cheaper R4, but without possibilities to shine.

Bartolbia84
27th December 2012, 20:17
Even Luca Betti from what they say, should have a program in the WRC-2 with a Peugeot 207 S2000.

Remains to be confirmed programs instead of Edward Bresolin Fiesta RRC and Gianluca Linari Subaru Group N, it would be included in some races in the WRC

tolis
27th December 2012, 20:42
Betti will start in a Symtech Impreza in Monte. Don't know if he'll do WRC-2 in this car.

Bartolbia84
28th December 2012, 07:44
For Betti, I knew that I was disputing with a Peugeot 207 S2000 Rally of the Delta or the Racing Lions, or so they say in Italy on various forums.
It seems strange that she has registered with the team to the Symtech Montecarlo, then come to the Subaru in his career, only used 2 times (with 2 retreats to Safari and Val D'Aosta), today released the list, we'll see if it will be only a tender spot, or will be in the WRC-2

RS
28th December 2012, 13:13
Hmm, Betti is an ERC regular but I guess as it threatens to become more competitive this year he runs away to WRC-2...

tolis
28th December 2012, 13:22
He registered in WRC-2 in a Peugeot 207 S2000!

pantealex
28th December 2012, 13:33
8 drivers/cars for Monte
S2000:
Skoda: Lappi, Wiekand, Al-Ketbi
Peugeot: Betti

N:
Subaru: Kremer, Protasov, Bertelli
Mitsubishi: Trivino

EightGear
28th December 2012, 13:52
Has Kostka not registered for points?

Mirek
28th December 2012, 13:59
According to the entry list not.

Bartolbia84
28th December 2012, 15:24
8 drivers/cars for Monte
S2000:
Skoda: Lappi, Wiekand, Al-Ketbi
Peugeot: Betti

N:
Subaru: Kremer, Protasov, Bertelli
Mitsubishi: Trivino


To these are added then


Ligato and Baldoni on Subaru R4
Fuchs ---> 7 races Lancer EVO X
Al Rajhi -> Fiesta RCC from Sweden
Al Kuwari -> Fiesta RRC
Linari ---> Subaru STI N4

emsics
28th December 2012, 16:31
hi everybody!


I'm not sur if i'm in the good topic. I'm from Madagascar (Africa), according to rumours here; the 5 times Madagascar championsh and 3rd in 2011 Africa championship; Jean Yves Ranarivelo will take part in Production WRC on subaru. Where can we find the entry lisy for this championship

thanx

PLuto
28th December 2012, 23:14
hi everybody!


I'm not sur if i'm in the good topic. I'm from Madagascar (Africa), according to rumours here; the 5 times Madagascar championsh and 3rd in 2011 Africa championship; Jean Yves Ranarivelo will take part in Production WRC on subaru. Where can we find the entry lisy for this championship

thanx

Hello, this is a good topic. PWRC is not anymore existing, new championship is WRC-2 (old PWRC and SWRC together). With new system of regulations, there is no entry list of the championship (as anybody can join the championship during the year).

bluuford
28th December 2012, 23:20
Hello, this is a good topic. PWRC is not anymore existing, new championship is WRC-2 (old PWRC and SWRC together). With new system of regulations, there is no entry list of the championship (as anybody can join the championship during the year).

There is something called Production Car Cup if I remember correctly? Under the WRC2:
other registered drivers.
8.3.4 A separate classification for the drivers with Group N Cars eligible in Class 3 entered in the WRC 2 will be drawn from the general classification and points will be awarded for the FIA Production Car Cup according to the same scale as for the Championship. The Production Car Cup will be awarded to the Driver and Co-Driver who have scored the highest number of points from the results obtained.

PLuto
28th December 2012, 23:26
Yes, it is Production Car Cup, but it is not classic PWRC...

Rally Hokkaido
29th December 2012, 01:23
There is something called Production Car Cup if I remember correctly? Under the WRC2:
other registered drivers.
8.3.4 A separate classification for the drivers with Group N Cars eligible in Class 3 entered in the WRC 2 will be drawn from the general classification and points will be awarded for the FIA Production Car Cup according to the same scale as for the Championship. The Production Car Cup will be awarded to the Driver and Co-Driver who have scored the highest number of points from the results obtained.

Ah, this probably explains why WRC-2 Subaru and Mitsubishi crews are using N4 cars and not R4 versions. I was wondering....

pantealex
29th December 2012, 10:47
Ah, this probably explains why WRC-2 Subaru and Mitsubishi crews are using N4 cars and not R4 versions. I was wondering....

other big reason is that Rallyclass/Ralliart cups are also only for N4 versions.

Rallyclass (Symtech Subaru) events: Portugal,Greece,Finland,Germany,France,Spain. Winner gets 4 WRC events with R4, second get 1 WRC event with R4. Yuriy Protasov is 2012 rallyclass champion and he got 5 WRC 2013 events for free.

Ralliart (Italy Mitsubishi) events: Portugal,Greece,Italy,Germany,France,Spain. 5/6 counting Winner gets Evo X

vino_93
29th December 2012, 10:57
Ralliart cup ? What will be the prize at the end of the year ?

Franky
29th December 2012, 10:58
Ralliart cup ? What will be the prize at the end of the year ?

Like pantealex mentioned at the end of the paragraph, the winner gets an Evo X.

pantealex
29th December 2012, 10:59
Ralliart cup ? What will be the prize at the end of the year ?
News in WRC.com said Evo X for winner.

vino_93
29th December 2012, 11:01
oops, didn't see :) thx ;)
Are some drivers expected to do this ?

bluuford
29th December 2012, 20:21
Karl Kruuda is planning to contest in WRC2 and most probably with Fiesta. He will start his WRC2 participation in Sweden or Portugal.

And day after tomorrow you can wish him a happy birthday! (31.12). He becomes 20 years old.

mousti
29th December 2012, 22:13
No combination with ERC..?

emsics
31st December 2012, 09:25
There is something called Production Car Cup if I remember correctly? Under the WRC2:
other registered drivers.
8.3.4 A separate classification for the drivers with Group N Cars eligible in Class 3 entered in the WRC 2 will be drawn from the general classification and points will be awarded for the FIA Production Car Cup according to the same scale as for the Championship. The Production Car Cup will be awarded to the Driver and Co-Driver who have scored the highest number of points from the results obtained.


thanx

Mirek
1st January 2013, 14:17
Ah, this probably explains why WRC-2 Subaru and Mitsubishi crews are using N4 cars and not R4 versions. I was wondering....

FIA wants to stop the R4 experiment AFAIK.

Kielder
2nd January 2013, 17:23
As it was said a week ago at news and rumours thread, Valery Gorban and Oleksii Kikireshko will participate in WRC2 at the wheel of two Mini S2000 with support from Prodrive. It's known now that they will start at Rally Sweden.

http://www.ralsys.com/irally_admin/news_images/2013MentosMINI.jpg

Wasted Talent
2nd January 2013, 17:50
As it was said a week ago at news and rumours thread, Valery Gorban and Oleksii Kikireshko will participate in WRC2 at the wheel of two Mini S2000 with support from Prodrive. It's known now that they will start at Rally Sweden.

http://www.ralsys.com/irally_admin/news_images/2013MentosMINI.jpg

Good to see....

WT

vino_93
2nd January 2013, 18:20
What will do Saliuk this year ?

Plan9
2nd January 2013, 22:00
Is P-G doing WRC2?

tolis
2nd January 2013, 22:15
What about Paddon? Any news?

Kielder
2nd January 2013, 22:16
About the Mentos Mini, from the Prodrive's press release:
"Both cars are being built to the latest specification and will leave Prodrive's workshops in Banbury at the end of January."

By the way...

http://imageshack.us/a/img22/351/mentoss.jpg

Frostmourne
4th January 2013, 06:19
To these are added then
Al Kuwari -> Fiesta RRC


Wan't he driving Mini last year?

pantealex
4th January 2013, 11:58
Wan't he driving Mini last year?

Yes, he was. He was inside top10 in Acropolis with WRC-spec MINI

Kaimar
6th January 2013, 12:48
Karl Kruuda will also do WRC2, car will be Ford and he'll start from either Sweden or Portugal.

Arska
8th January 2013, 18:51
Looks like there's gonna be some tight competition this year.

RS
9th January 2013, 13:56
Looks like there's gonna be some tight competition this year.

Between?

bluuford
9th January 2013, 14:00
Karl Kruuda will also do WRC2, car will be Ford and he'll start from either Sweden or Portugal.

Yesterday morning it was more likely that the start will be in Portugal

PLuto
9th January 2013, 14:00
Between?

Between events to have at least few cars on the start? :)

bluuford
9th January 2013, 14:02
Between?

Kruuda vs Lappi vs Wiegand (alphabetical order)

Mintexmemory
9th January 2013, 14:24
Evans vs Lappi vs Wiegand (alphabetical order)

There you go bluuford, fixed that for you! ;)

Mirek
9th January 2013, 14:27
Kruuda vs Lappi vs Wiegand (alphabetical order)

How many times will they meet all in one event?

pantealex
9th January 2013, 14:31
There you go bluuford, fixed that for you! ;)

What about PG ?

I would say Andersson vs Evans vs Lappi

pantealex
9th January 2013, 14:32
How many times will they meet all in one event?

max 3, maybe only 1

bluuford
9th January 2013, 14:37
How many times will they meet all in one event?
Depends on the Forum members.. if they invite them to the pub just before NORF or smth :-P

Mintexmemory
9th January 2013, 15:15
If we go on the premise that the main Europe gravel events suit nordic drivers and Evans while Wiegand will be more at home on tarmac and fast gravel my prediction is as follows (given that some competitors are already into their 7 events after RMC and Sweden)
Portugal - PG/ Evans/ Lappi/ Kruuda/ Al Rajhi (not to be underestimated)
Greece - As Portugal
Italia - Addition of Wiegand
NORF - Everyone (plus a few more)
Germany - Evans (last of his 5 'free rides'), Wiegand, plus anyone who hasn't done their 7 events !

So Max 4, I'd say probably 3
I'd expect PG to do Australia for Proton marketing purposes.

Wiegand will be the only main guy to prioritise the tarmac events I guess but it is possible for someone to see a mid season opportunity if early season choices for top guys haven't worked out.
Expect a large amount of false rumours about event choice throughout season

Mirek
9th January 2013, 15:25
Wiegand will be the only main guy to prioritise the tarmac events I guess but it is possible for someone to see a mid season opportunity if early season choices for top guys haven't worked out.

Wiegand prefers gravel events. Don't get confused with him being from an asphalt country :)

pucky54
9th January 2013, 15:42
Don't get confused with him being from an asphalt country :)

If ASN continues to do stupid decisions it will be "no rally at all"-country in a short time....

Mintexmemory
9th January 2013, 16:11
Wiegand prefers gravel events. Don't get confused with him being from an asphalt country :)
Interesting, thanks. So as many WRC 2 competitors will have used most of their 7 choices before the tarmac rounds or maybe holding one in reserve for GB to cover the opposition. This means a good tarmac driver may have little opposition and secure a big advantage!

Bartolbia84
9th January 2013, 16:15
is creating a fabulous season!

Mintexmemory
9th January 2013, 16:28
Brynyldsen in a Fiesta too! plus the Mentos Minis and Al Kutawri (sp?). Expect that Chardonnet may come on the scene later, too, if a Peugeot is available

Bartolbia84
9th January 2013, 16:34
chardonnet --> WRC3 Citroen Trophy Cup

alleskids
9th January 2013, 17:44
what program does PG Andersson?

alleskids
9th January 2013, 18:10
WRC2 2013 so far:

Esapekka Lappi - Skoda
Eyvind Brynildsen - Ford
Sepp Wiegand - Skoda
Karl Kruuda - Ford
Elfyn Evans - Ford
Yazeed Al Rajhi- Ford
Valery Gorban - Mini
Abdulaziz Al Kuwari - Ford
Oleksii Kikireshko - Mini
Rashid Al-Ketbi - Ford

Ligato - Subaru
Baldoni - Subar
Fuchs - Mitsubishi
Linari - Subaru
Protasov – Subaru
Kremer - Subaru

Kaimar
9th January 2013, 19:10
To me it really seems that you guys underestimate Karl, he is incredibly fast driver and undoubtably youngest too, I see no reason to consider Elfyn faster than Karl, but we'll see that in few months.

RS
9th January 2013, 19:36
To me it really seems that you guys underestimate Karl, he is incredibly fast driver and undoubtably youngest too, I see no reason to consider Elfyn faster than Karl, but we'll see that in few months.

Kruuda didn't achieve much on his IRC starts, but yes he is very young. I agree there is no reason to rate Evans higher at the moment though.

Overall, I expect and hope Lappi to prove his worthiness as a works driver and to win WRC2. He was very fast in Finland last year and impressive on rally Poland for his Skoda audition too, but I guess there are some question marks about his reliability and speed on tarmac.

Wiegand did well for his lack of experience last year, but it's not clear yet whether he will continue to grow as I don't think he finished the IRC season particularly better than he started it.

The rest? *Shrugs shoulders*

wrc45
9th January 2013, 20:07
Kruuda showed some competitive times in Spain,Italy and in Poland too. And I think that Evans will not be that competitive at the beginning of his season because he does not have much experience with 4 wheel drive car. But will see.

Mintexmemory
9th January 2013, 20:17
chardonnet --> WRC3 Citroen Trophy Cup

Yes but for how long? ;)

As for those who feel Evans may lack experience, especially in 4wd,you have actually watched him live? I have seen both EE and KK a number of times. Karl is progressing in a linear fashion, EE is exponential. Prepare to be amazed.

pantealex
11th January 2013, 15:27
Draft entrylist for Sweden says 13 drivers in WRC-2, but no Mentos MINIs in WRC-2 (they both are in entrylist but not in WRC-2, same for Bertelli) and NO Lappi

Mintexmemory
11th January 2013, 16:18
Draft entrylist for Sweden says 13 drivers in WRC-2, but no Mentos MINIs in WRC-2 (they both are in entrylist but not in WRC-2, same for Bertelli) and NO Lappi
Interesting, the Mentos team may well be looking to gain event experience with the Mini before nominating their first of the 7 choices.
Lappi must think that he has a better chance of using his budget on other events

Mirek
11th January 2013, 16:25
Lappi is works driver so I guess it's more team choice than his own. I think that Škoda will concentrate on development of his asphalt skills like they did with certain Hänninen :)

Bartolbia84
11th January 2013, 16:26
13 voices in Sweden but pilots as Vallario, Smailov, Grondal, Hudec, will Villanueva dispute at least other 6 manches? Do I have they take only points for this event?

tolis
11th January 2013, 16:26
Lappi must think that he has a better chance of using his budget on other events
As a Finnish, he should have gone to Sweden. I think it's not his budget, but Skoda Motorsport's.

Co-FIN
11th January 2013, 16:31
To me it really seems that you guys underestimate Karl, he is incredibly fast driver and undoubtably youngest too, I see no reason to consider Elfyn faster than Karl, but we'll see that in few months.

I really don´t see that much potential in Kruuda. In my opinion Evans is faster and maybe quite a lot faster. Kruuda is ok driver, but he hasn´t done anything that makes you see "WOW"-effect. Evans has been very very fast in brc (2wd&4wd) and also in academy. And Lappi has been superb everywhere. Kruuda is young, yes. But he has driving quite a while with s2000 now and we really should see some amazing results´s if he´s going to be on top. So i´m not counting Kruuda in same category as lappi&evans co., but time will tell us.

Maybe i´m wrong also :)

Co-FIN
11th January 2013, 16:32
As a Finnish, he should have gone to Sweden. I think it's not his budget, but Skoda Motorsport's.

I think the same that Skoda tells where to drive. Lappi would have definetely been very fast in Sweden.. Maybe they focus on tarmac, which is smart though.

pucky54
11th January 2013, 16:38
Maybe they focus on tarmac, which is smart though.

If they do, they should have chosen ERC instead of WRC!!!

Bartolbia84
11th January 2013, 16:54
If they do, they should have chosen ERC instead of WRC!!!

Also because the next race on asphalt will be Germany in August! Strange as that of decision .. Lappi, as on snow and ice is strong, having won, I think the Arctic Rally.

pantealex
11th January 2013, 17:14
Protasov has same number in Sweden (34) that Betti has in Monte. Protasov´s number in Monte is 39

Numbers 31-47 are now taken and 9 more drivers are "sure" (WRC-3 numbers start from 51...)

Mintexmemory
11th January 2013, 17:22
I think the same that Skoda tells where to drive. Lappi would have definetely been very fast in Sweden.. Maybe they focus on tarmac, which is smart though.
OK I forgot Lappi is works Skoda - the budget issue is still valid - why pick Sweden when Argentina, Mexico and Australia are likely to have less competition? Presumably Skoda have access to the VW data from last year as well as Hanninen's campaigns to determine the optimum rallies for Skoda performance. They only get 7 nominations remember!

Mirek
11th January 2013, 17:28
If they do, they should have chosen ERC instead of WRC!!!

They did... originally. I don't know why they later changed it to WRC2 but I smell VW behind.

Mirek
11th January 2013, 17:33
OK I forgot Lappi is works Skoda - the budget issue is still valid - why pick Sweden when Argentina, Mexico and Australia are likely to have less competition? Presumably Skoda have access to the VW data from last year as well as Hanninen's campaigns to determine the optimum rallies for Skoda performance. They only get 7 nominations remember!

I really don't think they would travel to Australia or Mexico. There is no reason for that. They do concentrate on R5 development and in my opinion it's Lappi's skills development what is most important for them in 2013 season.

uranium
11th January 2013, 18:11
Guys, created google calendar for 2013 year for myself, including ERC and WRC. But think somebody find it useful too. So, please use it
https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=7u6p924rfuak08odc9e960l0d0%40group.calen dar.google.com&ctz=Europe/Kiev

P.S.: Sorry if I missed thread

pucky54
11th January 2013, 19:35
They did... originally.

I know...

Prisoner Monkeys
12th January 2013, 01:11
Does anyone know how to access the Rally Sweden entry list? I'd like to see who is entered in WRC-2 so that I can update the Wikipedia page. I follow the link given:

www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Draft-Entry-List-Rally-Sweden-2013.pdf (http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Draft-Entry-List-Rally-Sweden-2013.pdf)

But I don't see the entry list. All I get is the Swedish-language version of the site.

Kielder
12th January 2013, 01:22
Does anyone know how to access the Rally Sweden entry list?

Try here (http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Draft-Entry-List-Rally-Sweden-2013.pdf) :) .

Plan9
12th January 2013, 09:13
According to the Prodrive press release on Nikara, the mentos team will start their campaign in Portugal not Sweden for some reason.

bluuford
12th January 2013, 09:37
They need to get used to the car before they start competing

Adler
12th January 2013, 12:00
Matthew Wilson will do WRC 2 with the R5 Fiesta in 2nd half of the season.

Matthew Wilson startet 2013 in der WRC 2 - Sprungbrett nach oben? - WRC Nachrichten News Artikel - Motorsport-Magazin.com (http://www.motorsport-magazin.com/wrc/news-160202-matthew-wilson-startet-2013-in-der-wrc-2-sprungbrett-nach-oben.html)

Google Übersetzer (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport-magazin.com%2Fwrc%2Fnews-160202-matthew-wilson-startet-2013-in-der-wrc-2-sprungbrett-nach-oben.html&act=url)

Ezhik
12th January 2013, 18:51
Mentos cars are not ready... Ukrainian team will drive with their Evo IX R4

dimviii
12th January 2013, 19:07
Mentos cars are not ready... Ukrainian team will drive with their Evo IX R4

so the team is ok from budget,but prodrive haven t got ready cars to compete?

rjbetty
12th January 2013, 20:13
Well I'm naturally pleased that Matty is joining in the fun. This should be more suitable for him where he's currently at, and better for money too. I think he should have spent some time in lower classes in the first place and gained some higher results. I think it just seems to work better that way maybe...

@Adler The link's busted man.

WUff1
12th January 2013, 20:49
If they do, they should have chosen ERC instead of WRC!!!

For tarmac and ERC they also have Kopecky - still don´t know his program for 2013, except for Rally Bohemia and Barum.

pucky54
12th January 2013, 20:52
For tarmac and ERC they also have Kopecky - still don´t know his program for 2013, except for Rally Bohemia and Barum.

It was not about having Kopecký in ERC, it was about if Lappi should learn on tarmac he cannot do that in WRC!!

Mirek
12th January 2013, 21:23
For tarmac and ERC they also have Kopecky - still don´t know his program for 2013, except for Rally Bohemia and Barum.


It was not about having Kopecký in ERC, it was about if Lappi should learn on tarmac he cannot do that in WRC!!

Exactly. They don't seem to care about winning any titles this year. They are preparing for future battles with PSA. This year is a development year. I don't expect Kopecký driving for any title, just few occasional starts for remembering themselves to public. Development of R5 and Lappi are the important points now.

RS
12th January 2013, 22:44
Exactly. They don't seem to care about winning any titles this year. They are preparing for future battles with PSA. This year is a development year. I don't expect Kopecký driving for any title, just few occasional starts for remembering themselves to public. Development of R5 and Lappi are the important points now.

It would be a shame if they didn't go for the ERC title since they have a car and driver which are capable of doing it.

Maybe we can expect to see Lappi on one or two tarmac ERC events if his development is the goal.

Overall I hope Skoda Motorsport doesn't just become finishing school for unfinished Finnish drivers and VW-kindergarten.

When does Fabia R5 testing start?

Mirek
12th January 2013, 22:47
I have no idea and I doubt we will see anything from initial test phase...

Kaimar
13th January 2013, 09:17
I really don´t see that much potential in Kruuda. In my opinion Evans is faster and maybe quite a lot faster. Kruuda is ok driver, but he hasn´t done anything that makes you see "WOW"-effect. Evans has been very very fast in brc (2wd&4wd) and also in academy. And Lappi has been superb everywhere. Kruuda is young, yes. But he has driving quite a while with s2000 now and we really should see some amazing results´s if he´s going to be on top. So i´m not counting Kruuda in same category as lappi&evans co., but time will tell us.

Maybe i´m wrong also :)

Well, I'd say i had no WOW effect either while seeing Evans drive in NORF, yes the car R2 doesn't allow you to go as fast as an r3 or n4 or s2000, but at this moment I'd not say Evans should be considered faster than Karl, hell no, but I hope we'll find that out soon enough.

bluuford
13th January 2013, 10:00
Well, the reason why I deared to put him in the list of possible title contenders is rather simple and why I didnt dare to put those two there yet.
I have not seen Evans against any proper contention and I have not seen him in 4WD yet.
I have not seen Lappi againts proper contention outside Finland yet.
I remember that there was guy named Felix Herbold in Germany who was too fast in his home championship.. but when he was compared against others in SWRC.. it did not looked so great anymore.
Lappi has been really fast in Finland but he had basically zero opponents on S2000 cars (Only NORF was pretty good, but again, home rally). Evans was rapid in Academy, but sorry, last year competition level was not so great. So, I am looking forward to the new season :)

tommeke_B
13th January 2013, 10:03
Don't forget Lappi did Rally Poland too... But I still get your point. ;) But "the basis" is good! :)

bluuford
13th January 2013, 10:41
Yes, the base is good, but I would not put him too much pressure yet. Poland was not too good comparision. There were only Kosciuszko and Kruuda comparable to him. Kruuda was there with non top class Fabia and he had many technical problems. Kosciuszko was only over 20 seconds behind him after neraly 1.5 hours of driving.
Let the guy develop!

wrc45
13th January 2013, 12:41
In Spain Kruuda was fighting with Mikkelsen. They both retired in the 2. stage . The gap between the two was 16,4 after the first stage but Kruuda had some problems with the wipers. On the 2.day they started with a 16,4 second gap but in the end of the rally the gap was 15,9 wich means on the tarmac Kruuda won againts Mikkelsen.

Mirek
13th January 2013, 12:52
In that time both were retired so there was not much to fight for. Go through results of events where both were in the fight. Mikkelsen was much faster every time.

wrc45
13th January 2013, 13:02
Im not saying Kruuda is faster in genereral, Mikkelsen is faster for sure just that i think next year in WRC-2 Kruuda will be one of the fastest on tarmac for sure. Lappi did one rally in Spain and he was not that fast. But we will see in Portugal (if Lappi drives there). And if Kruuda wants to be as fast on gravel as Lappi then he can be. I think there will be nice fights ahead of us (lets just hope nobody retires).

Co-FIN
13th January 2013, 21:44
Im not saying Kruuda is faster in genereral, Mikkelsen is faster for sure just that i think next year in WRC-2 Kruuda will be one of the fastest on tarmac for sure. Lappi did one rally in Spain and he was not that fast. But we will see in Portugal (if Lappi drives there). And if Kruuda wants to be as fast on gravel as Lappi then he can be. I think there will be nice fights ahead of us (lets just hope nobody retires).

You really cant even compare mikkelsen and kruuda.. Mikkelssen is ahead and big time. Lappi drove with dmacks in spain.. And he did also win swedish championship event with fabia against some wrc cars. Its not accident that they are both factory drivers atm.

Kruuda is still developing but i wouldnt yet bet my money on him. Cool to see whats gonna happen and really wish tight fights with the youngsters.

Franky
13th January 2013, 22:52
It's really impossible to compare Mikkelsen and Kruuda because they already have a completely different amount of experience.

Comparing drivers always reminds me of fanboys saying that their idol is faster. But lets wait for the events where they start to see who is the fastest of the lot.

pantealex
20th January 2013, 12:27
Next race for Esa-Pekka Lappi: Portugal

Rasantes
21st January 2013, 12:36
The spanish driver Alex Villanueva is in the gravel events, five or six rallyes. It will do in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X.

pantealex
21st January 2013, 13:25
The spanish driver Alex Villanueva is in the gravel events, five or six rallyes. It will do in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X.

He is already in Sweden´s entrylist (number 45 for him)

Iskald
21st January 2013, 13:53
Next race for Esa-Pekka Lappi: Portugal

Or maybe Rally Finnskog next saturday...

RS
22nd January 2013, 20:07
Are Skoda Motorsport running Wiegand's car this year? I noticed that Skoda Motorsport mentioned him in their PR.

pucky54
22nd January 2013, 20:19
Are Skoda Motorsport running Wiegand's car this year? I noticed that Skoda Motorsport mentioned him in their PR.

No, car is still prepared by Juka Motorsport

Mirek
22nd January 2013, 22:13
Juka Motorsport is the closest team to Škoda Motorsport. They were even building new S2000 cars for the factory.

HarriK
23rd January 2013, 12:27
Next race for Esa-Pekka Lappi: Portugal

its Esapekka by the way...

HarriK
23rd January 2013, 12:29
Or maybe Rally Finnskog next saturday...

Not in there, if I'm right...

Sulland
23rd January 2013, 22:38
Sweden with little grip compared to the rest of the season will give WRC-2 teams their best chance to shine on the total-list.

pantealex
24th January 2013, 06:39
Sweden with little grip compared to the rest of the season will give WRC-2 teams their best chance to shine on the total-list.

but Sweden has 20 WRC and Mexico will have probably 10 WRC...

Bartolbia84
29th January 2013, 09:36
The Jordanian pilot Ala'a Rasheed, will be at the start of WRC-2. His program will include Portugal, Acropolis, Sardinia, Alsace, Catalunya and Wales, will be at the start with a Ford Fiesta RRC.

tolis
29th January 2013, 09:42
His programme

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205688_135606899937628_182923624_n.jpg

Leon
29th January 2013, 10:14
cyprus rally is MERC not IRC :)

Sulland
7th February 2013, 09:50
WRC-2 in Sweden will be interesting with 10+ cars competing.

Should be a good battle btw RRC, S2000 and N/R4 cars. Pity about PG not competing.

Sulland
10th February 2013, 21:03
Grřndal with a phenomenal fight with an real underdog car in WRC2, holding the lead for two days.
Man of the rally !

Plan9
10th February 2013, 23:14
WRC-2 in Sweden will be interesting with 10+ cars competing.

Should be a good battle btw RRC, S2000 and N/R4 cars. Pity about PG not competing.

I think you will see PG in Australia with Proton. PG is lucky to be doing APRC. So many drivers of his generation are on the bench.

Prisoner Monkeys
11th February 2013, 01:53
WRC-2 in Sweden will be interesting with 10+ cars competing.
And it was. I've never ehard of half of the drivers who competed, but some of them were great - al-Rahji, Grondal, Wiegand, Protasov, Fuchs and Smailov did really well.

tobbe3
11th February 2013, 07:22
Rally Sweden 2013!

Rally Sweden 2013 - YouTube (http://youtu.be/vFRF5QWm2SQ)

pantealex
13th February 2013, 13:59
Grřndal with a phenomenal fight with an real underdog car in WRC2, holding the lead for two days.
Man of the rally !
For me Al-Rajhi was WRC-2 "Man of the rally"
Sweden 2013 was his second rally ever in snow

Bartolbia84
13th February 2013, 17:33
Marcos Ligato from Argentina will do WRC-2 in a Subaru Sedan R4 from TOP RUN RACING. He will do Portugal, Argentina, Acropolis, Sardinia, Finland, Catalunya and Wales.

Juan Carlos Alonso from Argentina will do WRC-2 in a Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X from RMC. He will do Portugal, Argentina, Acropolis, Sardinia, Catalunya, Wales.

Alberto Nicolas started in: Argentina, Catalunya and Sardinia in a Mitsubishi EVO X

tobbe3
14th February 2013, 16:12
Gröndal shows good attack at the end of this video!

Rally Sweden 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFRF5QWm2SQ)

Kielder
20th February 2013, 12:14
Two Mentos Mini S2000s which have just left from Prodrive for the Ukraine this morning. As it was announced, they'll debut in WRC-2 at Rally Portugal.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDiyBxiCYAErdtN.jpg:large

Bartolbia84
20th February 2013, 12:27
Two Mentos Mini S2000s which have just left from Prodrive for the Ukraine this morning. As it was announced, they'll debut in WRC-2 at Rally Portugal.





You know what program of races for the wrc-2 we have indicated?

Mirek
20th February 2013, 12:32
Please don't quote pictures. Thank You.

Bartolbia84
20th February 2013, 12:39
Excuse Me.

Mirek
20th February 2013, 12:43
No problem :) It just becomes pain to browse the forum if one is using smart phone or something ;)

AscaniaRacing
20th February 2013, 12:57
Two Mentos Mini S2000s which have just left from Prodrive for the Ukraine this morning. As it was announced, they'll debut in WRC-2 at Rally Portugal.

Yes, we starts in Portu with Gorban and Kikireshko as drivers.

tolis
20th February 2013, 14:10
Two Mentos Mini S2000s which have just left from Prodrive for the Ukraine this morning. As it was announced, they'll debut in WRC-2 at Rally Portugal.

Yes, we starts in Portu with Gorban and Kikireshko as drivers.
Which rallies will they do?

Plan9
20th February 2013, 23:53
I'm glad to see prodrive is doing something in rally.

M5
21st February 2013, 00:19
Would love to see Henning use his head and come in a Mini Cooper in wrc2,then he could win class overall!

Plan9
21st February 2013, 07:10
Two Mentos Mini S2000s which have just left from Prodrive for the Ukraine this morning. As it was announced, they'll debut in WRC-2 at Rally Portugal.

Yes, we starts in Portu with Gorban and Kikireshko as drivers.

According to I-Rally, these 2 cars will be seen in regional rallies (as well is WRC0. Is there any truth to this? If so, which rallies would they likely be entered on?

PLuto
21st February 2013, 13:19
According to I-Rally, these 2 cars will be seen in regional rallies (as well is WRC0. Is there any truth to this? If so, which rallies would they likely be entered on?

Local rallies in Ukraine.

AscaniaRacing
25th February 2013, 06:43
Which rallies will they do?

we will confirm our calendar race-by-race later

AscaniaRacing
25th February 2013, 06:44
According to I-Rally, these 2 cars will be seen in regional rallies (as well is WRC0. Is there any truth to this? If so, which rallies would they likely be entered on?

we are planning to take part in Ukrainian rally championship

Methos2b1
25th February 2013, 11:00
Do you know if a program Karl Kruuda WRC-2 this year ?


we will confirm our calendar race-by-race later

I read on the internet that you would present at Sardinia Rally (21-22 June). Is this true?

cali
25th February 2013, 19:08
Some rumours say that MM Motorsport will get first Fiesta R5 cars from Cumbria for Kruuda. But these are just rumours at the moment.

Ezhik
25th February 2013, 19:26
Some rumours say that MM Motorsport will get first Fiesta R5 cars from Cumbria for Kruuda. But these are just rumours at the moment.

I heard thath MMM should get 3(!!!) Fiesta R5. One for Kruuda, second for Pärn. But who would third car I don't know. But it is also romour that i heard durin Vőrumaa Winter Rally.

PLuto
25th February 2013, 19:36
And we will see when the cars will be available. Starting WRC2 from Rally Finland is little bit too late...

cali
25th February 2013, 19:41
Well, MMM has sold all of their old cars and they hoped to get Fiesta R5's in the spring. But Fiesta's homologation has been postponed for now ...

Kalm
25th February 2013, 19:48
In recent interview Kruuda said that they are aiming to use Fiesta R5, but if they dont get it by Portugal, they will use S2000 there, so from that im guessing he will start his program in Portugal.

Also Martin Kangur has said that he is aiming to get an R5.

Bartolbia84
25th February 2013, 20:43
Fiesta R5 most likely will be away in Sardinia and present them in all European competitions (NO Australia).

But even Parn and Kangur should be in WRC-2?

AscaniaRacing
26th February 2013, 07:50
Do you know if a program Karl Kruuda WRC-2 this year ?



I read on the internet that you would present at Sardinia Rally (21-22 June). Is this true?

Yes, we hope to

Frostmourne
26th February 2013, 10:10
@ Ascania Racing, I really wish you good luck for the season ahead. If I may ask, why did you go for the Mini JCWS2000, instead the more established and more common the Ford Fiesta S2000.

liposh
26th February 2013, 10:49
@ Ascania racing: I have heard Mini wanted to change the rear suspensions and especially put some 3 % more power to engine starting from rally Portugal. So do you have this announced newest evolution of engine and suspensions (or Will you receive it before Portugal)? Don´t forget to push on them every day, I have heard a lot of stories about Prodrive delays.

AscaniaRacing
4th March 2013, 06:29
Actually we were interested in MINI since our tests of their MINI WRC cars in 2011. So we looked for opportunity and got it this season. Thanks a lot for your warm wishes!

Fly
4th March 2013, 08:44
AUTOhebdo.fr | Robert Kubica rejoint Citron en WRC2! (http://www.autohebdo.fr/rallye/wrc/article-26-1-16131/040313-robert-kubica-rejoint-citroen-en-wrc2%C2%A0)

Tom206wrc
4th March 2013, 18:09
This is fantastic news the arrival of RK and Citroën in the serie :D

PLuto
4th March 2013, 18:27
Maybe this news should save interest about this series...

Methos2b1
5th March 2013, 09:55
Maybe this news should save interest about this series...

:up:

[WRCRR]
6th March 2013, 14:20
So this it what we have currently, any other news?

31 Esapekka Lappi (Skoda)
32 Sepp Wiegand (Skoda)
33 Armin Kremer (Subaru)
34 Symtech Racing (Protasov, Betti, some other?)
35 Yazeed Al Rajhi (Ford)
36 Rashid Al Ketbi (Skoda)
37 Lorenzo Bertelli (Subaru)
38 Ricardo Trivino (Mitsubishi)
39 Symtech Racing (Protasov, some other?)
40 Arman Smailov (Subaru)
41 Nicolas Fuchs (Mitsubishi)
42 Anders Gröndal (Subaru)
43 Martin Hudec (Mitsubishi)
44 PG Andersson (Proton) ??? Is Proton/Andersson going to start or not? R5 model later this year?
45 Alexander Villanueva (Mitsubishi)
46 Marco Vallario (Mitsubishi)
47 Eyvind Brynildsen (Ford)
48 Abdulaziz Al Kuwari (Ford)

Marcos Ligato (Subaru)
Elfyn Evans (Ford)
Karl Kruuda (Ford)
Valeriy Gorban (MINI)
Oleksiy Kikireshko (MINI)
Miguel Baldoni (Subaru)
Gianluca Linari (Subaru)
Ala'a Rasheed (Ford)
Juan Carlos Alonso (Mitsubishi)
Robert Kubica (Citroën)

Matthew Wilson (Ford) ? or not, maybe change in plan after the new homologation date of the Fiesta R5?

Bartolbia84
12th March 2013, 11:27
Second start in the wrc2 this year for Esapekka Lappi-Janne Ferm will be the gravel rally Portugal apr 11-14.

Bartolbia84
13th March 2013, 11:04
Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151488024468815&set=a.10150284062058815.356994.168020983814&type=1&theater)

René Torcato / MINI John Cooper Works RRC - WRC2 - Venezuela WRT

mArtini racing
13th March 2013, 21:09
Second start in the wrc2 this year for Esapekka Lappi-Janne Ferm will be the gravel rally Portugal apr 11-14.

Great news!! I hope we can see him more than Monte, I was very dissapointed when I noticed that he was out in Monte, He is a pilot who is always interesting to see!

val
20th March 2013, 12:56
Pourquoi tu fais le mort?? j'essaye de te contacter depuis un moment déjŕ... je t'ai donné ma confiance et maintenant je me sens trahi. ce n'Est pas juste. Je m'en fou que tu me rende ce que je t'ai donné. s'il te plait réponds-moi!


I'm not sur if i'm in the good topic. I'm from Madagascar (Africa), according to rumours here; the 5 times Madagascar championsh and 3rd in 2011 Africa championship; Jean Yves Ranarivelo will take part in Production WRC on subaru. Where can we find the entry lisy for this championship

thanx[/QUOTE]

Bartolbia84
20th March 2013, 14:29
FRIULMOTOR (http://www.ilquotidianofvg.it/friulmotor-mondiale-bresolin-correra-in-wrc-2/)

Bresolin 4 events WRC2: Portugal, Finland, Wales and Spain

Tom206wrc
20th March 2013, 16:07
I didn't know Friulmotor had a Fiesta RRC too :confused:

PLuto
20th March 2013, 17:40
Pourquoi tu fais le mort?? j'essaye de te contacter depuis un moment déjŕ... je t'ai donné ma confiance et maintenant je me sens trahi. ce n'Est pas juste. Je m'en fou que tu me rende ce que je t'ai donné. s'il te plait réponds-moi!


I'm not sur if i'm in the good topic. I'm from Madagascar (Africa), according to rumours here; the 5 times Madagascar championsh and 3rd in 2011 Africa championship; Jean Yves Ranarivelo will take part in Production WRC on subaru. Where can we find the entry lisy for this championship

thanx

There is no official entry list. Drivers can register into championship before each event.

Motorsportfun
20th March 2013, 18:19
I didn't know Friulmotor had a Fiesta RRC too :confused:

It's their Fiesta WRCar, but for Bresolin's programme they'll run the car in RRC-spec.

Tom206wrc
24th March 2013, 07:26
If PG Andersson in a Fiesta RRC as rumoured, he will be among the favourites ;)

Bartolbia84
27th March 2013, 18:14
wrc2 entry

31 Skoda Motorsport
32 Skoda Auto Deutschland
33 Stohl Racing
34 Symtech Racing
35 Yazeed Racing
36 Skydriver Dubai Rally Team
37 ****mŕtie Racing Team
38 Motoclub Igualda
40 Arman Smailov
41 Nicolas Fuchs
42 Anders Grondal
43 Sčmerad
44 Proton Motorsport
45 Alexander Villanueva
46 Marco Vallario
47 D-Mack Autotek
48 Seashore Qatar Rally Team
49 Mentos Ascania Racing
50 Mentos Ascania Racing
71 Motortune Racing
72 Alonso Juan Carlos
73 Kondrakhin Nikita
74 Lotos Team - Robert Kubica
75 Qatar M-Sport WRT
76 Bosowa Rally Team
77 Top Run
78 E2 - Tre Colli WRT
79 Robert Barrable
80 Oleksandr Saliuk

A FONDO
27th March 2013, 19:04
Skydriver :laugh:

rallyfiend
27th March 2013, 20:42
That's a pretty impressive list.

Will no doubt be a few more come out of the woods for the second half of the season too.

Rallying UK
30th March 2013, 14:21
RALLY DE PORTUGAL POLL: Who do you think will win WRC2 in Rally de Portugal?

Vote now! surveymonkey.com/s/VCKTX2C (http://surveymonkey.com/s/VCKTX2C)

Sulland
31st March 2013, 13:29
RALLY DE PORTUGAL POLL: Who do you think will win WRC2 in Rally de Portugal?

Vote now! surveymonkey.com/s/VCKTX2C (http://surveymonkey.com/s/VCKTX2C)

Why not include all drivers?

Bartolbia84
2nd April 2013, 17:51
Diego Dominguez (Paraguay - Lancer EVO X) start WRC2: debut Argentina + 6 events

vino_93
2nd April 2013, 21:16
What will be his other rounds ? :)

Bartolbia84
2nd April 2013, 21:29
What will be his other rounds ? :)

they should be the ones, RalliArt trophy:
Greece, Sardinia, Finland, France, Germany and Wales.

vino_93
3rd April 2013, 19:21
Germany :p

Langdale Forest
12th April 2013, 10:48
It would be good if all RRC/S2000/GpN/R4 cars were allowed to score WRC-2 points without registering for the championship, it would make things more interesting.

A FONDO
12th April 2013, 11:22
This would give advantage to the arabs travelling everywhere. The current situation is perfect.

tolis
14th April 2013, 21:52
Yuriy Protasov will use the MM-Motorsport Fiesta RRC for his WRC2 campaign after Argentina!

Bartolbia84
15th April 2013, 10:56
Yuriy Protasov will use the MM-Motorsport Fiesta RRC for his WRC2 campaign after Argentina!

Race??

tolis
30th April 2013, 23:39
Race??
Acropolis Rally for sure!

Rally Hokkaido
1st May 2013, 04:41
As well as competing in 2013 APRC with new team mate Esapekka Lappi in the MRF Tyres Fabia Team, India's top rally driver, Guarav Gill will make a one-off appearance in WRC-2 at Rally Australia. His car there will be a familiar Skoda Fabia S2000.

Bartolbia84
1st May 2013, 12:55
As well as competing in 2013 APRC with new team mate Esapekka Lappi in the MRF Tyres Fabia Team, India's top rally driver, Guarav Gill will make a one-off appearance in WRC-2 at Rally Australia. His car there will be a familiar Skoda Fabia S2000.

Only one race for Gill in WRC2???

pantealex
2nd May 2013, 13:08
Diego Dominguez (Paraguay - Lancer EVO X) start WRC2: debut Argentina + 6 events

no show in Argentina, WHY?
(was in entrylist, but not in startlist)

Bartolbia84
2nd May 2013, 13:19
no show in Argentina, WHY?
(was in entrylist, but not in startlist)

was listed but not started, from what I know will do the ralliart italia Trophy with the Lancer EVO X. Are 6 races starting at the Acropolis.

Teme
2nd May 2013, 22:28
no show in Argentina, WHY?
(was in entrylist, but not in startlist)

Driver ill

http://www.rallyargentina.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/STEWARDS-DECISION-2.pdf

Rally Hokkaido
3rd May 2013, 01:25
Only one race for Gill in WRC2???

Correct. It is likely the newly formed Skoda-MRF Team will run Gill and Lappi in WRC2 only at Rally Australia, using the cars they are driving in 2013 APRC.