Belgian Rally News [Archive] - Page 7

Wim_Impreza

21st May 2016, 20:35

I am just back of the Sezoensrally. It was a great day.

It was good to see that Loix was attacking like hell in the beginning of the rally, while usually Princen is a bit faster than him in the beginning. Loix said before the rally that he will go full attack from the beginning.

Wright was happy with the 3rd place. Last year he was also 3rd in this rally, but this year all top drivers made it to the finish. He promised to be back next year in this rally. :) Verschueren lost one minute in SS12 Goolder due to a loose manhole cover and made so a mistake. Snijers could test only 20 km before the rally in the Fiesta R5 Evo which he hired from an Italian team. Maybe he should do also Ypres with this car if there is enough budget. Kenis was the only WRC at the start and he had a lot of pleasure.

Tom van Rompuy did his best result ever in the BRC with a 7th place overall. :) I had for the first time a meet with forum member br21 of this team. That was also very nice. :)

Steve Bécaert was just like last year in the top 10. Next weekend he will drive for the first time a R5 car (DS3) in the ORC Rally, a popular regional rally. He will do the other rallies this year probably again with his Lancer, but next year he wants to drive a R5 car in the Belgian rally championship.

I spoke just with Hein Jonkers, 9th overall, and his Lancer was more a Mitsubishi Mirage R5 due to a mistake. :p He said that he is hoping to come back next year in this rally with the beautiful old Lancer.

Local hero Gunther Monnens retired with a broken engine in SS3. The other main retirements were Jourdan Serderidis (DS3 R5) in SS2 and Jonas Langenakens (Lancer Evo 9) in SS7.

gianni123

22nd May 2016, 06:36

video sezoens rally

https://youtu.be/CvZWmwYxaoU

mas-racing

22nd May 2016, 09:49

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20sezoens%202016_zpsxghzzbfu.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP4PuHEqNr8)

dupanton

22nd May 2016, 20:36

Dupanton will need to explain that one. :D

Not much to explain really... On SS13 the bolts on the front left wheel just broke :(

We had a really bad setup at the beginning (it was first time with this car) and no confidence at all. When the confidence came back, that happened so it was a real pity.

br21

22nd May 2016, 20:45

Nice event, quite special with so much gravel, but interesting.

FullThrottleVids

23rd May 2016, 16:56

Video: Sezoensrally 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kay9YKjznOc

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Video: Sezoensrally 2016 Historic --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqH6ohq_gQQ

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mas-racing

29th May 2016, 19:56

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20orc%202016_zpses1taitx.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WQw5zcb0zY)

FullThrottleVids

30th May 2016, 16:53

Video: ORC Canal Rally --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFGf19knThM

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Video: ORC Canal Rally 2016 Historic --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIcpkSvfjUk

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FullThrottleVids

30th May 2016, 19:56

Video: Onboard | C. Minne - S.Gaeremyn | SS11 De Ginste | ORC Canal Rally + Spins --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G6cEyzRPWo

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FullThrottleVids

31st May 2016, 19:52

Video: Onboard | C. Minne - S. Gaeremyn | SS9 Wielsbeke | ORC Canal Rally 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5fmp2c3HsQ&feature=youtu.be

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dimviii

3rd June 2016, 19:36

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13320897_1040483619354887_3399691436761721154_o.jp g

Jasper

9th June 2016, 11:05

Regional rally this weekend in Wervik, not far from Ypres with a lot of drivers who will use this rally as a test before Ypres. Kobus, Debackere, Delplace (Fabia), Tjsoen, Casier, Vanneste, Indri (Fiesta), Serderidis (DS3), Claerhout (Porsche).

Mirek

11th June 2016, 20:22

gianni123

12th June 2016, 07:49

Video of the rally van wervik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIkc-jjKykU

dupanton

12th June 2016, 07:51

Results of Rally Van Wervik

1. Tsjoen (Fiesta R5) 53:56,2
2. Kobus (Fabia R5) +26,3
3. Debackere (Fabia R5) +30,7
4. Casier (Fiesta R5) +1:11,8
5. Lietaer (Legacy RS gr.A) +2:09,1
6. Vermuelen (BMW M3 E30) +4:10,9
7. Merlevede (BMW M3 E30) +4:37,5
8. Serderidis (DS3 R5) +4:48,0
9. Vermeeren (Evo II gr.A) +4:56,2
10. Perrard (Lancer) +5:42,5

Vanneste was leading the rally but crashed on the last stage. Debackere most of the time kept Kobus and Casier behind her but at the end on the muddy wet track Kobus managed to get in front of her. Delplace had a big crash with the Fabia R5 of Czech Rex Team which he intended to use also for Ypres. Let's hope they can repair the car in time...

Vanneste was running in R5+ mode (so bigger restrictor and WRC wing) to win his home rally. That "explains" his big advantage. Kobus, Debackere and Tsjoen went very well. Casier was a bit of a disappointment.
Delplace hit a pole on the first stage:

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13413112_10154281896984507_1329132115957342868_n.j pg?oh=884df8c222af5594ec2c055fb927fc8d&oe=58048F5A

Rallye was cancelled after a few cars on the last 2 stages, because a lot of cars went of in the rain. And they already were far behind on their timing too.

FullThrottleVids

12th June 2016, 08:11

Video: Rally van Wervik 2016 + Crash & Spins --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71_3iXQRXT8&feature=youtu.be

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mas-racing

12th June 2016, 09:07

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20wervik%202016_zpsjo6nzoma.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGPsJWptLHw)

Jasper

12th June 2016, 19:34

A few pic's from Rally van Wervik (more on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/rallyimage/?fref=ts)

Debackere
http://i66.tinypic.com/f1jptz.jpg

Claerhout (also driving Ypres)
http://i66.tinypic.com/zia0.jpg

Casier
http://i67.tinypic.com/kexeyu.jpg

Tsjoen
http://i63.tinypic.com/2irrktf.jpg

FullThrottleVids

14th June 2016, 19:35

Video: Onboard | P. Tsjoen - E. Chevaillier | KP Wervik | Rally van Wervik 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpp6aadsGj8

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FullThrottleVids

15th June 2016, 20:46

Video: Onboard | P. Tsjoen - E. Chevaillier | KP Geluwe | Rally van Wervik 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4fb8nvaEVI

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dimviii

18th June 2016, 15:04

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13442362_10154086412000733_113596643261707047_n.jp g?oh=85d1b6863048b0edf886945f0b592369&oe=57E445F1

mas-racing

19th June 2016, 19:50

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20haute%20s%202016_zpsprsbrjbt.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6-w3ee0HQs)

mas-racing

22nd June 2016, 21:55

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20histo%20shake%202016_zpsjyct8je8.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhOKlRjr7Qg)

FullThrottleVids

23rd June 2016, 02:54

Video: Ypres Historic Rally 2016 Shakedown --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uruz999GZNE

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FullThrottleVids

26th June 2016, 19:49

Video: Ypres Historic Rally 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YwhXULhnnU

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dupanton

27th June 2016, 11:17

With his 11th Ypres victory, Loix is Belgian Champion already...

Mirek

27th June 2016, 14:10

And nobody seems to care anymore...

br21

27th June 2016, 20:08

I first time experience it live (his championship and Ypres win) and I need to say I'm really impressed. He is complete driver - fast, wise!

mas-racing

11th July 2016, 09:21

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20tbr%202016_zpswq2djs3r.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_kgHGYaNpg)

FullThrottleVids

11th July 2016, 10:04

Video: TBR Rallysprint 2016 + Crash Spin & Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEnXnndDpXg

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mas-racing

7th August 2016, 20:39

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20chevrotines%202016_zpsricatbyl.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAKojn2pvv4)

mas-racing

15th August 2016, 20:27

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20staden%202016_zpsc8e3rcea.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbCLnOivwgo)

FullThrottleVids

16th August 2016, 09:29

Video: Rally van Staden 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miRMDt2eoNw

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tommeke_B

18th August 2016, 19:12

Interesting video of Paul Lietaer in Rally van Staden last monday (the event was held on 15th of August, national holiday in Belgium). On one stage he lost his steering wheel (onboard at 2min55), he managed to continue by steering just with the hub. :D On that stage he lost around one minute, after that he gained back some time to win the historic class. I think several forum members already know Lietaer, he's quite famous in Belgium, driving for probably 40 years already, competing (and winning) in a lot of national and local events.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMrCwYFFeJQ&feature=share

dimviii

18th August 2016, 19:35

haha priceless!!

Ucci

18th August 2016, 23:00

Awesome!

dupanton

26th August 2016, 08:23

Omloop van Vlaanderen, 7th round of the Belgian Championship coming up.

Big suprise, Emil Bergkvist will start in a DS3 R5.
Also Wevers (S14 WRC), Van Woensel (Lancer WRC), Kenis (Mini WRC), Ten Brinke, Debackere, Verschueren (Fabia R5), Tanghe (Fiesta R5 (evo?)), De Jongh (DS3 R5 evo), Lefevere (Evo X), Weijs Jr (BMW 130i)...

Should be a nice rally, without the usual Loix vs Princen battle.

br21

26th August 2016, 15:35

Few more R5s still possible

mas-racing

28th August 2016, 21:48

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20kasterlee%202016_zpsjuwf6typ.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqlSRk0KInM)

dupanton

30th August 2016, 16:03

Entrylist for the Omloop van Vlaanderen is out, 7th rally of the Belgian championship:
http://www.omloopvanvlaanderen.be/uploadovv/Entry%20list%20National%20alfabetic%20-%202016-08-29.pdf

No suprises anymore, quite a weak entrylist compared to the rest of the season.
Princen is the favorite but there are a lot of potential podium finishers.

Rally starts on Friday with 5 stages, with 14 more stages on Saturday.

MV Rally

31st August 2016, 22:20

Short Rally Kasterlee 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wXptMLCk3g

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14192046_1177848162238234_5333367377277519128_n.jp g?oh=08832451f0a3b8069bf13980dcabe177&oe=5845E3B2

FullThrottleVids

3rd September 2016, 01:33

Video: Omloop van Vlaanderen 2016 Day 1 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBro5vzcGiY

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leighton323

3rd September 2016, 11:01

Emil Bergkvist not really impressing here at Omloop van Vlaanderan. I feel the DS3 R5 isn't the strongest car but I thought more of Bergkvist. Anyone been out at the stages?

tommeke_B

3rd September 2016, 19:22

Emil Bergkvist not really impressing here at Omloop van Vlaanderan. I feel the DS3 R5 isn't the strongest car but I thought more of Bergkvist. Anyone been out at the stages?
Living only 1km from the nearest stage it's my home event. :) I've seen Emil 3 times in the wet yesterday and 7 times in the dry today. Yesterday for the first loop everyone was on hard tyres (apart from Van Woensel). No rain was predicted at all, and the weather took everyone by surprise. The first 4 cars started on dry, all others in rain, including Emil. You could see he wasn't confident at all, really hesitating, trying to feel the grip in the braking. On all other stages I've seen him he was quite impressive I must say. Relatively clean driving style, very efficient. Also very fast back on the throttle again in the corner, something I remember from Loeb, who also often looked like he entered a corner a bit slower then the others but then he pushed on the throttle very quickly which made his exit quicker than anyone else's. The stages here are a bit comparable to Ypres, but also not completely. There are many different types of tarmac, some offer much more grips than others, and I think it takes some experience to understand, on recce you can't push it too much. Also in comparison to Ypres these stages are much more blind (thanks to the corn fields, corn is about 2m high right now), also there are more slower technical sections, with medium (and slower) corners, I think. For his performance against other drivers I think you have to put things in perspective. Most of the drivers he competed against would be nowhere in a foreign event, but these are "their" events, they competed in it for like 10 times, so they know every corner and what's behind it. Blind means really blind here, as there's no relationship between the road and nature, like you have in mountains or in forests, everything is flat and the road is... as some people decided it to be. :D Also the locals know about cutting, they can see how the cuts are going to evolve throughout the day etc. Many things were new for Emil, and also you have to keep in mind that this was only his second event with an R5 car on asphalt (first with DS3). ;) All in all a good performance from him, I'm sure he learned a lot. Now let's hope he can use this experience in the future, hopefully with a quicker and more reliable car..

mas-racing

3rd September 2016, 22:50

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20omloop%202016_zps0bj4gz6q.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4NhzMwm9GU)

gianni123

4th September 2016, 09:38

video omloop van vlaanderen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWThc0LPsjg

FullThrottleVids

4th September 2016, 10:18

Video: Omloop van Vlaanderen 2016 Day 2 + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qEMfeNC5co

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FullThrottleVids

4th September 2016, 15:21

Video: Onboard | M. Debackere - C. Cokelaere | SS15 Passendale | Omloop van Vlaanderen 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKfNQqclk9A

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itix

4th September 2016, 17:08

Looking at the stage times it seems emil was a bit inconsistent but on an overall good pace... Interesting event for sure!

mas-racing

11th September 2016, 21:19

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20oudena%202016_zpsusymrgso.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwMffaLRxi8)

FullThrottleVids

12th September 2016, 03:15

Video: Aarova Rallysprint 2016 + Crash & Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqnp3tYdaqU

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FullThrottleVids

13th September 2016, 18:27

Video: Onboard | T. Van Parijs - K. Heyndrickx | Aarova Rallysprint 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h_9Ilw2XUo

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Video: Onboard | P. Tsjoen - M. Van Welden | Aarova Rallysprint 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYv-7H-df0E

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rallyfanbelgium

14th September 2016, 15:25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JunM5q7SMVc BMW CRASH

mas-racing

18th September 2016, 19:36

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20jl%20dum%202016_zps7qbj6p3d.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc-H7mmWRHA)

dupanton

22nd September 2016, 08:17

East Belgian Rally this weekend, penultimate round of our national championship.

The best stages in the country, very fast and flowing, with sometimes bad and rough asphalt.

Major competitors: Van Woensel (Lancer WRC), Loix and Cherain (Fabia R5), Princen and Hommes (208 R5), Weijs (Fiesta R5), De Jongh and Fumal (DS3 R5), Kenis (Mini RRC), Fernandes and Rollinger (207 S2000), Van Parijs, Claerhout, Schmelcher (Porsche)...

Van Woensel is the favorite, but should be a close fight with Loix, Princen and Cherain. Weijs might loose some time at the beginning of the rally, but should be fast.

13 stages on saturday, results:
http://tac-results.be/index.php/results/index/national/after_ss/latest

gianni123

25th September 2016, 07:03

my video from east belgian rally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxsGBPM4wHM

mas-racing

25th September 2016, 09:09

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20ebr%202016_zpsz6ci6e44.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce0ysggkcc0)

FullThrottleVids

25th September 2016, 10:30

Video: East Belgian Rally 2016 + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhs8dOewtTw

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Fly

25th September 2016, 17:49

EBR JM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIplX7p8n08

FullThrottleVids

25th September 2016, 19:59

Video: Onboard | S. Hermann - A. Maraite | SS04 St-Vith | East Belgian Rally 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZemsR5VUgyM

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FullThrottleVids

26th September 2016, 14:59

Video: Onboard | T. Van Parijs - K. Heyndrickx (Porsche 997 GT3) | SS05 Burg-Reuland | East Belgian Rally 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_3WXy8hH6Y

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mas-racing

9th October 2016, 19:23

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20doornik%202016_zpsx81q1u9c.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKle433_WiU)

mas-racing

9th October 2016, 21:39

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20hemicuda%202016_zps4y0mzikb.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNy8BHAZbnM)

FullThrottleVids

10th October 2016, 10:34

Video: Hemicuda Rally 2016 + Crash & Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oa1h5a9maE

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FullThrottleVids

10th October 2016, 17:50

Video: Onboard | M. Ramael - S. Gaeremyn | KP9 Koekelare | Hemicuda Rally 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxunwY_DgdM&feature=youtu.be

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Jasper

18th October 2016, 13:15

Belgium newspaper speakes about Duval in Skoda or Hyundai during Condroz Rallye.

http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/skoda-ou-hyundai-r5-pour-duval-au-condroz-58060f08cd701eed8fcf712c

Other participants:
Dilley - Hyundai R5
Princen - Peugeot R5
De Cecco - Peugeot R5
Verschueren - Skoda R5
Cherain - Skoda R5
De Mevius - Skoda R5
Baugnet - Fiesta R5
Fernémont - Fiesta R5
Bonjean - C4 WRC
Van Woensel - Lancer WRC
Allart - Fabia WRC
Canal-Roblès - Fabia WRC

Rumours about Matton + WRC-star (Lefebvre/Breen/Meeke...).

Fly

18th October 2016, 21:16

Jasper

21st October 2016, 07:30

tommeke_B

21st October 2016, 07:47

+ DS3 R5 from J-Motorsport for Emil Bergkvist. In terms of entries it will be a great event, of course crowd-control is a different thing...

leighton323

21st October 2016, 08:04

Any Belgium guys here can give a quick preview for the rally and how you think each driver will perform. Tommeke_B? I feel Lefebvre should be quickest, and will maybe assert Citroën's decision on retaining him. Princen second, and maybe Hirvonen the dark horse?
Verschuren the best of the rest, excluding the WRC cars like Van Woensel. Unsure of Emil..

Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk

tommeke_B

21st October 2016, 08:39

In wet/slippery conditions the battle will be between Cherain, Lefebvre and Princen (and Duval if he starts) I think. I think Cherain should be slightly faster (also thanks to Fabia R5), but he as a driver makes a lot of mistakes. Question is if he can remain flawless for the full length of the event. If it's really dry I think Van Woensel (Lancer '05 WRC) can join the game. I think Hirvonen will be somewhere between the first group I mentioned and De Mevius (who gained WRC2 experience this year, he could surprise us), Verschueren, Baugnet etc. Bergkvist is a big question, I think he can be among the quickest. The event has become shorter than it used to be some years ago. 220km SS on 24 stages, especially saturday stages are very short. The most challenging roads are driven on sunday imo.

dimviii

21st October 2016, 12:58

Mikkos livery

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvReEwOXEAAC0rG.jpg

mas-racing

22nd October 2016, 18:15

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20hoppe%202016_zps4ixmcb7k.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbl5gtyoq4)

FullThrottleVids

23rd October 2016, 00:28

Video: Hoppeland Rally 2016 + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7C7KYS2eAo

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mas-racing

23rd October 2016, 19:24

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20mettet%202016_zps3qsm1v68.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN685negluM)

mousti

25th October 2016, 12:21

Breen replaces Hirvo for Condroz. Hirvo has to test for Mini.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONE E1003 met Tapatalk

leighton323

25th October 2016, 12:39

Breen replaces Hirvo for Condroz. Hirvo has to test for Mini.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONE E1003 met Tapatalk
Interesting news

Breen vs. Lefebvre...

Should be a very interesting battle. With both a point to prove.
My bet is with Breen - I think Lefebvre will struggle on his first rally back from the Germany accident.

dupanton

25th October 2016, 16:04

Real contender for the victory! I think it will be Breen vs Lefebvre (should recover directly from his crash on test + shakedown) vs Cherain (last year winner) vs Duval (if Fabia or I20). Maybe some 2.0l WRC could challenge for the victory if it is mainly dry (Vanwoensel with his Lancer WRC or Bouche depending on the car he will start with).

MartijnS

26th October 2016, 19:30

Duval with the Hyundai!

dimviii

28th October 2016, 07:01

Duval livery

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/news/duval_condroz.jpg

dupanton

28th October 2016, 07:26

Great entrylist with 16 R5s (Breen, Lefebvre, Riedemann, Princen, Duval, Dilley, Verschueren, De Mevius etc etc), 8 WRCs etc:
http://motorclub-huy.be/condroz/documents/docs/2016/2016-Engages-Nr2.pdf

dimviii

31st October 2016, 14:35

BILLIOT Jérémie ‏@planetemarcus ·

#WRC #BRC François Duval testing @condrozrally with i20R5 @F1RSTMOTORSPORT (thx @patbxl1000 ) ➡️ http://bit.ly/2eS2hJi

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwGASxcXYAIiyh7.jpg

dimviii

31st October 2016, 18:23

Duval testing i20 r5

https://youtu.be/CgH9cV_8Abo

Ucci

31st October 2016, 18:44

Duval testing i20 r5

https://youtu.be/CgH9cV_8Abo

Driving without HANS??

tommeke_B

31st October 2016, 18:54

Driving without HANS??

He would have a bigger risk of biting his tongue with HANS.

dimviii

2nd November 2016, 18:35

new video from JM with Duval
https://youtu.be/ph1plmhr5uo

mousti

2nd November 2016, 21:26

BMA test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ZTtf_Oka0

mousti

3rd November 2016, 18:16

Breen is ready!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CILlX4Vwm0

tommeke_B

4th November 2016, 08:47

Some info for people who are following the rally online.

R5-entrants: Lefebvre (DS3 R5), Breen (DS3 R5), Bergkvist (DS3 R5), Riedemann (208 R5), Princen (208 R5), De Cecco (208 R5), Monfort (208 R5), Duval (i20 R5), Dilley (i20 R5), Cherain (Fabia R5), Bouche (Fabia R5), De Mevius (Fabia R5), Verschueren (Fabia R5), Baugnet (Fiesta R5), Fernémont (Fiesta R5), Vanneste (Fiesta R5), Litt (Fiesta R5)

WRC-entrants: Matton (C4 WRC), Bonjean (C4 WRC), Grooten (C4 WRC), Van Woensel (Lancer WRC), Allart (Fabia WRC), Canal-Robles (Fabia WRC), Delplace (Octavia WRC), Kenis (Mini WRC - actually RRC with WRC wing)

Several GT3's, plenty of Evo's Gr.N/Gr.A, probably a nice battle in R2 as well... I think some ERC events would be jealous of this list. Rumors are around that Condroz will be part of ERC next year, as Ypres is out...

Link for live results, the itinerary is on it as well: http://www.condrozmobile.be/speciales.html Tomorrow 4 stages shall be run in the dark. Beware that some delay is rather usual in this event...

Rain is predicted overnight, saturday should be quite dry, on sunday there could be some rain. Overall the stages will always be slippy. Tyre rules for all 4WD cars are same as in ERC, probably all drivers on softs for the whole rally.

dupanton

4th November 2016, 20:00

Riedemann not on the startlist...

dimviii

4th November 2016, 20:50

shakedown video
https://youtu.be/SxGxqOpjhFU

FullThrottleVids

5th November 2016, 00:20

Video: Rallye du Condroz 2016 Shakedown + Spin --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NowE5saQ_So

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HaCo

5th November 2016, 07:53

The second stage is running, the results of the first have some surprises I think.
1 7 BREEN/MARTIN
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 02:58.9
2 5 CHERAIN/HERMAN
SKODA Fabia R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:00.5 +00:01.6
3 4 LEFEBVRE/PORTIER
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:01.3 +00:02.4
4 2 DILLEY/PREVOT
HYUNDAI R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:01.4 +00:02.5
5 18 BOUCHE/GREGOIRE
SKODA Fabia R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:02.1 +00:03.2
6 1 PRINCEN/KASPERS
PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:03.3 +00:04.4
7 46 VERSCHUEREN/HOSTENS
SKODA Fabia (RC2 VR5) 03:03.7 +00:04.8
8 16 FERNEMONT/MAILLEN
FORD Fiesta R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:03.9 +00:05.0
9 9 MATTON/PODGORNY
CITROEN C4 WRC (RC1 WRC 2.0 T) 03:05.0 +00:06.1
10 11 DE MEVIUS/JALET
SKODA FABIA R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:06.2 +00:07.3
11 8 BERGKVIST/SJOBERG
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:06.3 +00:07.4
12 12 DE CECCO/JAMOUL
PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:06.4 +00:07.5
13 6 DUVAL/LEYH
HYUNDAI R5 (RC2 VR5) 03:07.3 +00:08.4

HaCo

5th November 2016, 08:35

SS3: Cherain :D Princen had a small off
1 5 CHERAIN/HERMAN
SKODA Fabia R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:08.1
2 7 BREEN/MARTIN
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:09.2 +00:01.1
3 9 MATTON/PODGORNY
CITROEN C4 WRC (RC1 WRC 2.0 T) 05:09.4 +00:01.3
4 11 DE MEVIUS/JALET
SKODA FABIA R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:10.9 +00:02.8
5 2 DILLEY/PREVOT
HYUNDAI R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:11.1 +00:03.0
6 46 VERSCHUEREN/HOSTENS
SKODA Fabia (RC2 VR5) 05:13.8 +00:05.7
7 4 LEFEBVRE/PORTIER
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:14.1 +00:06.0
8 18 BOUCHE/GREGOIRE
SKODA Fabia R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:15.3 +00:07.2
9 8 BERGKVIST/SJOBERG
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:17.1 +00:09.0
10 16 FERNEMONT/MAILLEN
FORD Fiesta R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:17.4 +00:09.3
11 6 DUVAL/LEYH
HYUNDAI R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:17.8 +00:09.7
12 12 DE CECCO/JAMOUL
PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:18.0 +00:09.9
13 1 PRINCEN/KASPERS
PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:21.3 +00:13.2
14 14 BAUGNET/CUVELIER
FORD FIESTA R5 (RC2 VR5) 05:22.6 +00:14.5
15 15 VANNESTE/SNAET
FORD FIESTA (RC2 VR5) 05:26.6 +00:18.5

HaCo

5th November 2016, 08:36

After SS3:
1 7 BREEN/MARTIN
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:15.4
2 5 CHERAIN/HERMAN
SKODA Fabia R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:17.6 +00:02.2
3 2 DILLEY/PREVOT
HYUNDAI R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:23.6 +00:08.2
4 4 LEFEBVRE/PORTIER
CITROEN DS3 R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:25.4 +00:10.0
5 11 DE MEVIUS/JALET
SKODA FABIA R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:27.6 +00:12.2
6 9 MATTON/PODGORNY
CITROEN C4 WRC (RC1 WRC 2.0 T) 12:29.8 +00:14.4
7 46 VERSCHUEREN/HOSTENS
SKODA Fabia (RC2 VR5) 12:29.9 +00:14.5
8 18 BOUCHE/GREGOIRE
SKODA Fabia R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:31.0 +00:15.6
9 6 DUVAL/LEYH
HYUNDAI R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:33.3 +00:17.9
10 1 PRINCEN/KASPERS
PEUGEOT 208 T16 R5 (RC2 VR5) 12:33.6 +00:18.2

Very impressed by Dilley in the Hyundai!

HaCo

5th November 2016, 08:36

Princen: https://www.facebook.com/KSrallyvideo/photos/a.398477230163933.105605.397877810223875/1333775809967399/?type=3&theater

irish_tiger

5th November 2016, 09:58

any website for results ?

Mirek

5th November 2016, 10:01

It's on previous page ;)
http://www.condrozmobile.be/speciales.html

dimviii

5th November 2016, 10:53

eWRC-results ‏@eWRCresults · 31s31 seconds ago

unfortunately @emilbergkvist1 crashed on SS5 @condrozrally, stage stopped, soon restart

dimviii

5th November 2016, 11:04

Scott Martin Retweeted

Condroz Rally ‏@condrozrally · 4m4 minutes ago

Due to car 8 incident in SS5, next starts of SS6, SS7 and SS8 are delayed 20 minutes. SS6 TInlot to start @ 12.13 #rcdz

Mirek

5th November 2016, 11:38

Results now appearing in SS7 instead of 6. Was 6 canceled?

HaCo

5th November 2016, 11:52

Dilley lost a wheel :(

Breen lost the lead over Cherain!

HaCo

5th November 2016, 11:54

BReen over the limit:
https://www.facebook.com/rallylovers/photos/a.10150602885959507.401579.197385889506/10154729512124507/?type=3&theater

HaCo

5th November 2016, 11:55

Not sure who is lying in the woods here:
https://www.facebook.com/rallylovers/photos/a.10150602885959507.401579.197385889506/10154729518479507/?type=3&theater

dimviii

5th November 2016, 11:56

Bergvist

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14925801_10154729518479507_3647099595836129677_n.j pg?oh=e09e8408ad15f3259d8afb8eb873d263&oe=589B9F9A

HaCo

5th November 2016, 11:57

Oh, ok :-)

HaCo

5th November 2016, 11:58

Princen suddenly going much faster. Duval disappointing if you saw the times from Dilley.

dimviii

5th November 2016, 12:06

Breen small clip at gravel
https://youtu.be/cRJHe6Rp9xo

br21

5th November 2016, 12:06

on BRC facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/belgianrallychampionship/
there is a video of Breen on SS2. 4mins of great driving.

dimviii

5th November 2016, 12:09

Breen lost 10 sec from Cherain at ss8,now +12,4 sec.
Do we know what happened?

HaCo

5th November 2016, 12:18

And Princen seems to be on fire!

What a drive of Cherain.

irish_tiger

5th November 2016, 13:56

It's on previous page ;)
http://www.condrozmobile.be/speciales.html

Whooops ......didnt see

Mirek

5th November 2016, 14:39

Duval out. So is De Mevius (engine) or Vandewauver (gearbox).

Question to French speaking members. Carter cassé means broken oil pan (Duval)?

dimviii

5th November 2016, 14:48

bigger photo from Berqvist

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwgZ06MWQAAi-ZY.jpg

dimviii

5th November 2016, 14:51

Princen crash and Lefebvre at same point
https://youtu.be/y9o98xA7h0s

Rally Power

5th November 2016, 16:04

Carter cassé means broken oil pan (Duval)?

Yep.
What a rally! Amazing Cherain (the Fabia really suits him) and a incredible fight between the Citroen's. It'd be great to see these 3 getting even closer till the end...

dimviii

5th November 2016, 16:10

Citroen racing boss,with both citroen wrc drivers, loosing from an amateur local.

HaCo

5th November 2016, 16:19

Cherain going awesome, he beat already Loix in EBR, so he is not just some local amateur. Look at all the BRC regulars, already far behind.

Cherain did really well in the Fiesta R5 2 years ago, then he got the DS3, which did not went well at all. Back in the Fiesta was not a success, but now he found the car that suits him. Happy for him!

HaCo

5th November 2016, 18:24

One Peugeot less: https://www.facebook.com/rallylovers/photos/a.10150602885959507.401579.197385889506/10154730579789507/?type=3&theater

And one more stage win for Cedric C!

HaCo

5th November 2016, 18:26

Check out this huge moment from Breen: https://www.facebook.com/rallymedia/?fref=ts
Thanks for sharing MartijnS!

dimviii

5th November 2016, 18:35

Check out this huge moment from Breen: https://www.facebook.com/rallymedia/?fref=ts
Thanks for sharing MartijnS!

omg!! lucky bastard didn't lift at all!

another video with some off from Breen and Dudu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=802ZOQKcwJo

HaCo

5th November 2016, 18:41

Crap, crap, crap: Cherain went off on the last stage, waiting for more news... :-(

HaCo

5th November 2016, 18:46

Here you have it, pitty, but nice fight!
https://www.facebook.com/rallylovers/photos/a.10150596691514507.400866.197385889506/10154730643629507/?type=3&theater

Mirek

5th November 2016, 18:55

And the second I20 R5 is also out. Any info what happened to Dilley?

MartijnS

5th November 2016, 19:08

We were at the spot of Cherain his off too. Good day haha, pass of Breen was crazy!

nafpaktos

5th November 2016, 19:20

Guys why the ss are so small???!

MartijnS

5th November 2016, 19:33

Octavia WRC rolled on the same spot. Stage blocked, on our way home ;)

mousti

5th November 2016, 19:36

And the second I20 R5 is also out. Any info what happened to Dilley?
I heard same thing like Duval.

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dimviii

5th November 2016, 19:56

crashes and close calls

https://youtu.be/n94F2q-Pr7I

dimviii

5th November 2016, 20:01

Octavia WRC rolled on the same spot. Stage blocked, on our way home ;)

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14955901_10154730818104507_3579361932508332346_n.j pg?oh=a3369133fa7bf412ac7f83b5bef17016&oe=588CD072

MartijnS

5th November 2016, 20:54

Crashes of Cherain and the Octavia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIzdDj14j3s

dimviii

5th November 2016, 21:14

Βerqvist crash and roll
https://www.facebook.com/514805148554356/videos/1325067080861488/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

dimviii

5th November 2016, 21:15

https://youtu.be/J0_wAnEv7bQ

dimviii

5th November 2016, 21:25

https://youtu.be/tYgIZ78d6dA

dimviii

5th November 2016, 21:28

nice night pass
https://www.facebook.com/daniel.joachim.5621/videos/1769514836599158/

Cherain

https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14956547_1068859653183230_1278712292923746206_n.jp g?oh=81fa5258c34410907adfd2c9206fcb9e&oe=58C95AEB

denkimi

6th November 2016, 00:16

i'm a little surprised cherain went off, and breen not.

mousti

6th November 2016, 00:57

i'm a little surprised cherain went off, and breen not.
Just luck, Lefebvre also had a moment on Lavoir the 2nd pass. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1140121886066951&id=181112608634555

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irish_tiger

6th November 2016, 01:19

i'm a little surprised cherain went off, and breen not.

Breen was on the limit and maybe over it on a few occasions but got away with it but i would be interested on the views of our Belgian friends on the video of Cherains off - did he panic a bit and keep on the brakes too long ? would he have went around the corner if he left off the brakes ???

Mirek

6th November 2016, 01:22

i'm a little surprised cherain went off, and breen not.

Cherain crashes really often.

HaCo

6th November 2016, 06:47

And the second I20 R5 is also out. Any info what happened to Dilley?
Dilley will restart today.

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dimviii

6th November 2016, 09:36

Yves Matton ‏@Yves_Matton · 1h1 hour ago

This morning I told @SLefebvreRallye and @Craig_Breen that I was ready to push! #RCDZ

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwkPdmRXgAADwJx.jpg

dimviii

6th November 2016, 10:34

Μeeke trolling Matton about his fastest times at Condroz

krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke · 33m33 minutes ago

krismeeke.com Retweeted Condroz Rally

Happy to have a contract for next year.. a lot of ‘young’ talent coming through! @Yves_Matton ��

Ucci

6th November 2016, 10:43

Citroen racing boss,with both citroen wrc drivers, loosing from an amateur local.

Well, I don't understand your point?? I'm really positevly surprised over Citro's boss times....what more can you expect out of an less than an amateur driver? We can not call him a "gentelman driver", because gentelman driver drives his WRC toy at least few times per season...Matton as far as I know does this once per year; if he does at all.
And don't give me a crap that he seats in much more powerfull car than the rest....I can not imagine one sunday driver in WRC car winning a stage when factory driver(s) are around you.

mousti

6th November 2016, 11:29

Cherain crashes really often.
I wouldn't say that , second time after Ypres this year that he crashes with a R5 car. A bit too fast and with the colder temperatures in the evening roads came More moist and went slipping I think.

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Mirek

6th November 2016, 11:29

Judging from stage times today's stages are obviously a lot about top speed.

dimviii

6th November 2016, 11:38

Well, I don't understand your point?? I'm really positevly surprised over Citro's boss times....what more can you expect out of an less than an amateur driver? We can not call him a "gentelman driver", because gentelman driver drives his WRC toy at least few times per season...Matton as far as I know does this once per year; if he does at all.
And don't give me a crap that he seats in much more powerfull car than the rest....I can not imagine one sunday driver in WRC car winning a stage when factory driver(s) are around you.

I don't expect from Matton to be faster from Cherain.Is it so hard to understand thst I mean Lefebvre and Breen?

amazing sound from 911s with limiter at top speed
https://youtu.be/JjO9eBMLlX4

dimviii

6th November 2016, 11:45

https://youtu.be/zRQzRW-UZ-M

mousti

6th November 2016, 12:34

crash of Bergkvist

https://www.facebook.com/belgianrallychampionship/videos/620749914770629/

Mirek

6th November 2016, 13:29

De Mevius is doing great today after his mechanical problems yesterday.

MartijnS

6th November 2016, 13:33

Excellent end of our season, had a really nice day yesterday. Some good spots and some big moments!
Few of my photos!

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15000757_1154127154675252_965860394986197460_o.jpg

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15003382_1154126878008613_255525516090869567_o.jpg

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15002269_1154124131342221_5108694576059618357_o.jp g

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/15016312_1154124881342146_5010043288507985954_o.jp g

https://scontent-ams3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14939341_1154126561341978_4462178899723450563_o.jp g

More at https://www.facebook.com/rallymedia/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1154123718008929

dimviii

6th November 2016, 15:55

https://youtu.be/Lm7boPABonA

nafpaktos

6th November 2016, 16:44

Guys why the ss are so small???!

????

dimviii

6th November 2016, 17:56

https://youtu.be/IylQ24NtyCw

Ucci

6th November 2016, 18:30

????
Probbably he thinks so short?

tommeke_B

6th November 2016, 18:37

Guys why the ss are so small???!

You will see the same everywhere in Belgium, I would say the average Belgian stage is probably only 8kms long. Take a look at Google maps in the regions where Belgian rallies are held. There are a lot of towns/villages, and a lot of big roads. To make a long stage you would need to either cross some villages, or close some big roads (which usually have a lot of traffic). It's probably difficult to get permission for all that. The last stage of today was actually shortened by a few kms (a month ago) so they wouldn't use an important road. Anyway, on these short stages you still have plenty of ways to access them. For example the first stage of the rally, Amay-Bodegnée (4,5kms long) had 17 access roads to the stage, including start and finish... So you need a lot of marshalls to handle all the spectators (something the organizers can't/won't do anyway). Having more shorter stages also makes the decision to cancel one (if needed) easier.

dimviii

6th November 2016, 19:02

https://youtu.be/OH-dWlhsBKU

MartijnS

6th November 2016, 19:49

Video of Joost online too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M2ILNJbyr8

nafpaktos

6th November 2016, 20:00

@tommeke_B
thanks for the very useful infos

mas-racing

6th November 2016, 20:05

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20condroz%202016_zpsmcylexzg.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdr8fkrWWd4)

Ucci

6th November 2016, 20:46

Video of Joost online too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M2ILNJbyr8

Some very fast sections!

KKS

6th November 2016, 23:03

Many videos! And each video has same spot, if didn't know that rally contain 12 unique stages - thought that have only one.

Jasper

7th November 2016, 07:39

I don't expect from Matton to be faster from Cherain.Is it so hard to understand thst I mean Lefebvre and Breen?

amazing sound from 911s with limiter at top speed
https://youtu.be/JjO9eBMLlX4

Good drive from Cherain. The difference between Skoda and DS3 has also something to do with it off course.
Lefebvre could have been faster when he had the same gearbox as Breen. His gear ratio was very short.
The organiser keeps struggling with safety measures. Women with baby-strollers in the run-off area, only in Wallonia.

Kalm

7th November 2016, 09:33

The organiser keeps struggling with safety measures. Women with baby-strollers in the run-off area, only in Wallonia.

Had the same thought watching all these videos, some people in very bad places...

manthey

7th November 2016, 12:42

Fabia suits better Cherain because of a more balanced car instead "nervous" ds3?

gianni123

7th November 2016, 15:43

My video of rallye du condroz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rksUlPZtNtg

FullThrottleVids

7th November 2016, 16:32

Video: Rallye du Condroz 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWJHZ4W7L-A

With onboards of Cherain and Bergkvist

1111

FullThrottleVids

7th November 2016, 19:51

Video: Onboard | C. Cherain - R. Herman | SS11 Lavoir | Rallye du Condroz 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPBLeUxaKTQ

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dupanton

7th November 2016, 20:05

A few thoughts on a great rally.
Although safety was traditionally quite poor, with very few marshalls, I really enjoyed the rally. As you also can see in several videos, a lot of the drivers were on (over) the limit.
Breen and Lefebvre, crazy and very fast, visibly world class
Cherain was very very very fast, but not so wild and sideways, very nose end first. Unfortunately, the rally ended nose end first against a tree...
Bouche, Dilley, Verschueren, De Mevius etc also did a very solid job, but the last two were unlucky.
Duval was a big disappointment. No good stage times and looked off the pace. I expected a lot more from him! In the end both Hyundais retired with a broken oil sump... Not good!
Matton was a good surprise. He was amongst the fastest WRC drivers. Not bad at all for a gentleman driver who only does a few events a year. Although his scratch was on a fast and flowing stage, it is still quite impressive! Also Van Woensel and Canal-Robles (first time in a 4WD car and 6th overall!) were very good.

Also nice to see, Bergkvist was spectacting on Sunday, but I also saw Griebel on a stage!

mas-racing

7th November 2016, 20:38

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf%20onboard_zpskraywwtq.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS6yqDvYdMM)

rallye07

8th November 2016, 07:59

My video of rallye du Condroz 2016 DAY 1 - Crash Allart > https://youtu.be/n94F2q-Pr7I

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(https://youtu.be/n94F2q-Pr7I)

rallye07

8th November 2016, 08:25

My video of rallye du condroz 2016 DAY 2 >https://youtu.be/Lm7boPABonA
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FullThrottleVids

8th November 2016, 09:15

Video: Onboard | E. Bergkvist - J. Sjoberg | SS04 Wanze | Rallye du Condroz 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEW-AQHkI8

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EightGear

8th November 2016, 09:48

Video: Onboard | E. Bergkvist - J. Sjoberg | SS04 Wanze | Rallye du Condroz 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEW-AQHkI8

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He looks very cautious in there, and I hope Per won't kill me now - slow, even.

dupanton

8th November 2016, 12:44

He looks very cautious in there, and I hope Per won't kill me now - slow, even.

He didn't impress me. His times were not great neither...

Jasper

8th November 2016, 20:15

Hello, here a small selection off my pics. More: https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallyimage/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1485110801500801

http://i66.tinypic.com/19vwv8.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/ngvq4p.jpg

http://i65.tinypic.com/25jv6hi.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/2mqu4ci.jpg

Jasper

8th November 2016, 20:17

http://i63.tinypic.com/iyg85i.jpg

Rallyper

9th November 2016, 00:13

He didn't impress me. His times were not great neither...

As I said before. What would you expect from a driver who is given one rally now and then. Nothing on this level. Add to that financial aspects and the pressure you have to fulfill expectations built up from own team and the surroundings of rallying.

Every driver in that situation acts in a way like this. I don´t like it and you also should now this is not representable for him. You never treat other ERC Junior champions from France or whatever like this. Then it´s always excuses, like mines.
So give him funding for driving every fortnight in six months a R5 car and he´ll match the top three at once.

dupanton

9th November 2016, 09:12

As I said before. What would you expect from a driver who is given one rally now and then. Nothing on this level. Add to that financial aspects and the pressure you have to fulfill expectations built up from own team and the surroundings of rallying.

Every driver in that situation acts in a way like this. I don´t like it and you also should now this is not representable for him. You never treat other ERC Junior champions from France or whatever like this. Then it´s always excuses, like mines.
So give him funding for driving every fortnight in six months a R5 car and he´ll match the top three at once.

The moment he retired he was just in front of De Cecco (last rally was in March and it was his 2nd rally in a 4WD car) and behind Fernémont (5th rally this year, but only 2nd rally in 4WD). If you compare this with the biggest rallytalent uptill last year (yes, I'm a fan and I'm convinced he is very talented) who has done 9 rallies this year of which 6 were with the DS3 R5, I think you can say Bergkvist didn't do a great job!

rallyfanbelgium

9th November 2016, 15:56

Big Attack......Breen , Lefebvre , Princen (Crash and Mistakes ) Condroz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cLCQfF5tb8

rallyfanbelgium

9th November 2016, 15:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CColajsw_L0

Rallyper

9th November 2016, 19:33

The moment he retired he was just in front of De Cecco (last rally was in March and it was his 2nd rally in a 4WD car) and behind Fernémont (5th rally this year, but only 2nd rally in 4WD). If you compare this with the biggest rallytalent uptill last year (yes, I'm a fan and I'm convinced he is very talented) who has done 9 rallies this year of which 6 were with the DS3 R5, I think you can say Bergkvist didn't do a great job!

You have to listen to what I´m saying. Not do peculiar remarks. Pls look at the whole picture. Or tell me the number of rallies the top guys went these last 12 months including tests.

dupanton

9th November 2016, 19:50

You have to listen to what I´m saying. Not do peculiar remarks. Pls look at the whole picture. Or tell me the number of rallies the top guys went these last 12 months including tests.

I did not expect him to win this or something. I just expected more. And I rest my case, his performance was not great.

Mirek

9th November 2016, 19:55

You have to listen to what I´m saying. Not do peculiar remarks. Pls look at the whole picture. Or tell me the number of rallies the top guys went these last 12 months including tests.

He didn't mention any top guys, only amateurs with very few events and very little if any testing.

Rallyper

10th November 2016, 10:24

He didn't mention any top guys, only amateurs with very few events and very little if any testing.

The whole picture pls! Don´t remark words.

mousti

10th November 2016, 15:03

Rallyper

11th November 2016, 12:26

He better stay good friends with Jourdan or he will be able to do only rallies in Sweden with old cars. So even if you find his performance not disappointing, I'm sure that besides Jourdan no one will help him with such performances.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn ONE E1003 met Tapatalk

Talking to me?
Well he´s done nothing, will be nothing. Not even fast. Sure he was ERC champ? Had so many chances, spoiled them. No top driver did that before in their careers. All coming guys have had rocket careers doing fastest times from the beginning. :/

Rally Power

12th November 2016, 00:35

lol…it seems the Belgians got on your nerves Rallyper! Relax, they know perfectly, as we all know, that Bergkvist is a talented driver and deserves to get a nice rally career!

Rallyper

12th November 2016, 11:43

lol…it seems the Belgians got on your nerves Rallyper! Relax, they know perfectly, as we all know, that Bergkvist is a talented driver and deserves to get a nice rally career!

Thanks mate! ;) Now let´s have a good weekend all!

mas-racing

13th November 2016, 19:20

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20zl%202016_zpscj2mjjfl.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQsaVN2h-Fw)

FullThrottleVids

14th November 2016, 01:29

Video: Rally van Zuid-Limburg 2016 + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6smvRj3JW8

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dupanton

14th November 2016, 11:31

Freddy Loix stops his career as a (professional) driver. It's not clear yet what Skoda Belgium will do, possibily they will support a young talented driver.

TWRC

17th November 2016, 09:33

Breen's onboard from Condroz with the Rallymedia big moment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyP2rHJBc0c

mas-racing

20th November 2016, 17:47

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20st-ro%202016_zps2qma4ju2.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXMDkEynwuM)

dimviii

27th November 2016, 13:56

Tsjoen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRetYhTpC54

FullThrottleVids

28th November 2016, 02:11

Video: 6 Uren van Kortrijk 2016 + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc0f0C9EBrY

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mas-racing

28th November 2016, 16:31

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20kortrijk%202016_zpsslkaw4uu.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VJbFbK4ayQ)

FullThrottleVids

28th November 2016, 18:33

Video: Onboard | C. Minne - S. Gaeremyn | SS06 't Hoge | 6 Uren Van Kortrijk 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KocfgS1DDw8

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ziggysony

28th November 2016, 20:15

https://youtu.be/-jkYM-3AMs4
Video 6 uren van Kortrijk 2016

FullThrottleVids

29th November 2016, 21:50

Video: Onboard | C. Minne - S. Gaeremyn | SS08 Mouscron | 6 Uren Van Kortrijk 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu62fIbTkSQ

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FullThrottleVids

30th November 2016, 16:11

Video: Onboard | C. Minne - S. Gaeremyn | SS12 Aalbeke | 6 Uren Van Kortrijk 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab02Y4EPWCc

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FullThrottleVids

30th November 2016, 17:06

Video: Onboard | P. Tsjoen - T. Van Parijs | SS07 Aalbeke | 6 Uren Van Kortrijk 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74DsF7kYsAU

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FullThrottleVids

4th December 2016, 10:11

Video: Family Champion's Day 2016 --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAKNE6qLMo4

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dupanton

5th December 2016, 15:43

Princen (who drove a 208 R5 this year), will do at least 6 out of the 9 rounds in Belgian Championship with a Fabia R5 (from team BMA). De Mevius should also do at least 4 with the same car.
Hopefully that means the Peugeot Belgium car comes available for somebody else.

gianni123

6th December 2016, 15:15

Best of Rally - 2016 (Crash & Mistakes) Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=db1nZ1jvi0Q

mas-racing

10th December 2016, 10:39

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20this%20is_zpslvquwtsa.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbTeDnQcKLs)

mas-racing

17th December 2016, 17:09

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20bloopres%202016_zpstyygkov5.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djmo466ADAw)

Fly

18th December 2016, 10:06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZleL_bZ_Das

FullThrottleVids

24th December 2016, 12:59

Video: Best Of Rally 2016 + Crashes Spins Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Wxn7A_DSM

1155

rallye07

31st December 2016, 09:32

My best-of :hot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78N1tF-ISAA

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FullThrottleVids

31st December 2016, 11:54

Video: Best Of Porsche | Pure Sound --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJR1LVowPU

1159

mousti

2nd February 2017, 17:40

Achiel Boxoen will be Loix his successor at Skoda Belgium. Will start his program probably with a R2, mid season I guess will switch to Fabia R5. He'll getting the support and advice from Freddy Loix.

Achiel (son of former gentlemendriver Joost Boxoen) drove last year some rallies in Eastern Europe like Rzezsowski and Barum with a Skoda Fabia tdi

PLuto

2nd February 2017, 22:54

Achiel (son of former gentlemendriver Joost Boxoen) drove last year some rallies in Eastern Europe like Rzezsowski and Barum with a Skoda Fabia tdi

It was not Fabia Tdi, but group A Fabia (older class A5).

mas-racing

4th February 2017, 17:03

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20test_zpsajsh8r50.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kT4prlYcak)

Fast Eddie WRC

17th February 2017, 13:57

Any live TV / Online stream for LEGEND BOUCLES Á BASTOGNE this weekend ? Doesnt seem to be on MotorsTV this year :(

EDIT - found one: http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_les-legend-boucles-de-bastogne-en-direct-video-live-samedi-14h?id=9529146&utm_source=rtbfsport&utm_campaign=social_share&utm_medium=twitter_share

EightGear

17th February 2017, 22:20

focus206

17th February 2017, 22:26

Now for something surprising...

Kevin Abbring will do the Belgian championship with an official Peugeot, codriven by Pieter Tsjoen. He will remain as a test- and development driver for Hyundai as well.

Intriguing!

Nice, glad for him. Few years ago he was fast driving the 208 in the ERC, a shame it happened right the year after Loix retired. Who could be the favourites for the title this year?

dodge33cymru

18th February 2017, 08:22

New around here so I may be all mixed up with who drives with who, but is he replacing Kris Princen then?

dupanton

18th February 2017, 09:09

Yes, he replaces Princen who will do the championship with a Fabia R5, as that car is faster.

For the title, it should be a battle between Princen, Verschueren (with the faster Fabia R5) and Abbring with the Peugeot. Abbring could be faster, but reliability from both him and the car could be an issue. Not all drivers have announced there plan though, could be that an other title contender (like Dilley maybe) will skip Haspengouw and start from Round 2.

Fast Eddie WRC

18th February 2017, 09:30

Good news for the BRC about Abbring ... hope it's a good battle this year now without Loix domination.

Jarek Z

18th February 2017, 12:07

Yes, good luck to Kevin Abbring. Let's hope he will have more luck with his Peugeot than he had in the ERC e few years ago. Interesting fact is that his co-driver will be Pieter Tsjoen - 8-time Belgian rally champion as a driver :)

http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201702/105110-abbring.jpg

dodge33cymru

18th February 2017, 12:49

It was Tsjoen's DS3 that Abbring destroyed the other year, right? Either way, good to know that Princen stays in the championship too; looking forward to seeing this field come Ypres-time.

Tom206wrc

18th February 2017, 12:52

This is not speed of the 208 T16 which is problem, but engine reliability :mark:

Fast Eddie WRC

18th February 2017, 13:16

Online stream for LEGEND BOUCLES Á BASTOGNE now live ! :)

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/detail_les-legend-boucles-de-bastogne-en-direct-video-live-samedi-14h?id=9529146&utm_source=rtbfsport&utm_campaign=social_share&utm_medium=twitter_share[/QUOTE]

mousti

18th February 2017, 13:21

Speedwise the 208 and DS3 is also not at the top. That did Cherain prove when he switched to a Fabia R5 he was quite a lot faster with that car.

dodge33cymru

18th February 2017, 13:40

Anyone know if this stream will be archived anywhere? Got to go out but would love to check it out later if possible.

Fast Eddie WRC

18th February 2017, 13:58

Anyone know if this stream will be archived anywhere? Got to go out but would love to check it out later if possible.

Possibly on that website, but better to look for fan videos on YT. They are always miles better with pure sound and no commentator talking non-stop !

Not that many good videos yet but this is about the best so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B_J9ur1dCA .. great sound ! :cool:

dodge33cymru

18th February 2017, 23:53

Just to check, is that the same Maxime Martin in the Opel Kadett as the DTM/GT driver?

mousti

19th February 2017, 01:17

Just to check, is that the same Maxime Martin in the Opel Kadett as the DTM/GT driver?

Yes

mas-racing

19th February 2017, 10:05

http://i1354.photobucket.com/albums/q695/freddyzonnebeke/sf2%20legends%202017_zpsjdkbdlu9.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XHsZfOVjEI&feature=share)

jacko

19th February 2017, 10:45

Kevin Abbring with co-pilot (!) Pieter Tsjoen in the Belgian championship with a Peugeot 208 T16 !

FullThrottleVids

19th February 2017, 11:19

Video: Legend Boucles Bastogne 2017 + Mistakes --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fwwE8P8PtU

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Giovanni D

19th February 2017, 13:23

My pictures:

https://www.rallyandraces.com/2017/93-rally/11014-legend-boucles-bastogne-gio

mousti

19th February 2017, 14:28

Neuville wins 18/18 stages of Legends Boucles de Spa. A class or 2 above everyone else..

Onboard with Neuville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn4fCV2rewk&feature=youtu.be

dupanton

21st February 2017, 06:44

Entry List for the first round of the Belgian Championship, Haspengouw Rally next weekend:
http://www.trch.be/index.php/deelnemers/startlijst

7 R5 cars + 1 RRC

Should be between Abbring (208 R5), Princen and Verschueren (Fabia R5).
Allart (Fabia R5), Geussens (Fiesta R5) and Cornelis (DS3 R5) are discovering their cars.
Debackere (Fabia R5) and Kenis (Mini RRC) are the other top crews.

Munkvy

21st February 2017, 19:06

Thoughts on Abbring's ability to finish a rally? He used to have the pace, but I am not sure I remember the last time he finished a rally without issues?

mousti

21st February 2017, 20:55

It's another level than WRC2 but with a Peugeot against Princen in his home rally in Fabia R5 (though it's his first rally) he will have to step it up directly. Though I don't think he will bin it here, Spa Rally there will be the chance bigger :D

EightGear

21st February 2017, 21:01

Thoughts on Abbring's ability to finish a rally? He used to have the pace, but I am not sure I remember the last time he finished a rally without issues?
In WRC, Spain last year he finished 7th. In November he won Rallye du Var in France.

I agree he has looked a bit ragged lately. Not sure what the reason is, he used to be pretty reliable for years.

Munkvy

21st February 2017, 22:43

In WRC, Spain last year he finished 7th. In November he won Rallye du Var in France.

I agree he has looked a bit ragged lately. Not sure what the reason is, he used to be pretty reliable for years.

Good point, he is someone who often seems to have car issues. Which is kinda of similar to those people who have issues with ripping wheels off a lot as they cut things a little too fine.

But I imagine he feels quite a bit of pressure these days, trying to justify his role with Hyundai and still vying for a full time driving role?

GravelBen

22nd February 2017, 19:42

Good point, he is someone who often seems to have car issues. Which is kinda of similar to those people who have issues with ripping wheels off a lot as they cut things a little too fine.

I have noticed before that when Abbring has shown decent pace on WRC events it has usually been through taking risks with big cuts and using 110% of the road, so often when he does show some speed its no surprise to see him crash or damage the car soon afterwards.

Fast Eddie WRC

23rd February 2017, 23:35