Wrc RallyRACC Catalunya-Costa Daurada Rally de España 2012

[wwbroe]

Great times for both Ogier and Mikkelsen on first stage.

[wwbroe]

Ogier stopped also on stage, seems to be running again?

[wwbroe]

He lost about 1,5 minutes on splits

[werner]

Are there 2 minutes between Nobre and Ogier? If yes, they should be at 4th split side by side ...

Watch the times Anderson vs Breen! If its right, fantastic drive by PG!

[Gard]

Did Ogier catch up Nobre?

[hari]

Are there 2 minutes between Nobre and Ogier? If yes, they should be at 4th split side by side ...

Watch the times Anderson vs Breen! If its right, fantastic drive by PG!

3 Minutes

[tommeke_B]

I think there were 3 minutes between Nobre and Ogier... ;) Disaster on the next long stage then.

[wwbroe]

Are there 2 minutes between Nobre and Ogier? If yes, they should be at 4th split side by side ...

Watch the times Anderson vs Breen! If its right, fantastic drive by PG!

Yes, great drive by PG, but i guess he has to make the difference today.

[Mikkaki]

Nobre... Sorry for you Ogier..

[wwbroe]

Nobre and Powell are about the same speed, they can have nice fight together.

[stefanvv]

Nobre... Sorry for you Ogier..

He has other issues with his car now

[vkangas]

Wow Nikara is fast! As expected, but anyways good to see. :)

Quite a risky game anyways as he has no car and not any budget (or any scrap metal...) left after this event but if he keeps beating Sordo I'm confident he still has got a chance to attract some sponsors.

[wwbroe]

No more splits for Mikkelsen as well??

[Mikkaki]

PG 6.1s after Mikkelsen at split 5. Flat out with that PROTON!

[wwbroe]

Breen is in finish, but what happened with Mikkelsen?

[wwbroe]

Mikkelsen also stopped in stage, what a cemetary this stage is...

[dupanton]

What happened to Neuville??

[wwbroe]

What happened to Neuville??

He went off once more

[Astro83]

PG is on a role!!! :D :D :D Good pace towards the SWRC title I hope!

[wwbroe]

The long (44kms) stage is now live. We will see some big differences on that one i suppose.

[stefanvv]

...and more drama

[dupanton]

He went off once more

:( :( :(

[Gard]

Apparently a big stone took out Neuville, Petter and Mikkelsen. Hope it´s not the same as last rally, when people put stones on the road. Some of the Norwegians got in a fight, when they catched some guys putting a big stone in the inline. Right before Petter was arriving.

[werner]

Confirm, Mikkelsen hitting a rock. Ogier bonnet opened during stage.

[Astro83]

Apparently a big stone took out Neuville, Petter and Mikkelsen. Hope it´s not the same as last rally, when people put stones on the road. Some of the Norwegians got in a fight, when they catched some guys putting a big stone in the inline. Right before Petter was arriving.

The guys who put stones and destroys the stage in other ways, are ****ing retards... they should be beat to death... This guys is ******s who get the sport bad reputation!

[dupanton]

Apparently a big stone took out Neuville, Petter and Mikkelsen. Hope it´s not the same as last rally, when people put stones on the road. Some of the Norwegians got in a fight, when they catched some guys putting a big stone in the inline. Right before Petter was arriving.

And Solberg en Neuville started one after the other...

[hari]

Sordo and Oliveira stopped according to Radio

[bluuford]

The guys who put stones and destroys the stage in other ways, are ****ing retards... they should be beat to death... This guys is ******s who get the sport bad reputation!

It is belived that it is the same rock that Tänak, Block and few others hit last year and SWRC was decided there

[Astro83]

It is belived that it is the same rock that Tänak, Block and few others hit last year and SWRC was decided there

Okey! :) but the thing "Gard" wrote about is still a BIG problem in our sport sadly! I hate it... But anyway, that stone is known? that must be a big drivers miss then because it feels like they should not miss that in the recce?

[Langdale Forest]

Is it true that Solberg, Mikklesen and Nuville have hit the same rocks that were put there by spectators?

[wwbroe]

Very poor second split for JML

[irish_tiger]

Mmmm could Nikara be heading for stage win ????

Or it more like what a crap stage time from Atkinson ...

[rallyfun]

Is it true that Solberg, Mikklesen and Nuville have hit the same rocks that were put there by spectators?

Who do you ask?

[wwbroe]

Mats Ostberg on his way to yet another best time?

Update: Tanak is faster now on last split

[wwbroe]

Sordo went off the road and got stuck

[Astro83]

I REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT FWRT IS THINKING..... They know this morning that the rain will come, and they anyway choose the hard compound?? why, I can't understand this bad chooses all the time...

crazy!

[Negaiss]

Loeb on the charge - sick first split !

[Viking]

Østberg seems to be going slower towards the stage end...


Edit: found his speed again, spin maybe?

[Viking]

Loeb on the charge - sick first split !

0,3 faster than Østberg second split 4 sec slower... not so sick...

[Negaiss]

Tanak, Please! Stay on the road.

[Langdale Forest]

Tanak might have stopped?

[stefanvv]

So Solberg hit the same rock last and this year, ai-ai-ai

[rallyfun]

I REALLY CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT FWRT IS THINKING..... They know this morning that the rain will come, and they anyway choose the hard compound?? why, I can't understand this bad chooses all the time...

crazy!
I read somewhere that Ford has one guy on the stage while Citroen plenty of them.

[pettersolberg29]

Woke up to hear Petter retired, thought there was no surprise there but at least Mikkelsen is still in it so still someone to cheer on even if not for overall lead. Then heard he was out too. Wish I'd tagged on to Mikko or Loeb when they started out as supporting these crazy Norwegians is driving me insane!

[tommeke_B]

Here we have a saying "A donkey doesn't hit the same rock twice". Solberg isn't a donkey...

[Astro83]

I read somewhere that Ford has one guy on the stage while Citroen plenty of them.

Yea but anyway, It could not be a suprice that it was gonna be rain today??

[Viking]

Quite nice stagetime from Østberg with a spin in the stage..

[SubaruNorway]

I read somewhere that Ford has one guy on the stage while Citroen plenty of them.

Scott Martin i think?

[Mirek]

I read somewhere that Ford has one guy on the stage while Citroen plenty of them.

Doesn't matter - when all of us on forum knew 100% it would rain already yesterday night M-Sport must know that too!

[Gard]

Loeb is going to take this stage. Østberg and Tanak lost time towards the end

[wwbroe]

Doesn't matter - when all of us on forum knew 100% it would rain already yesterday night M-Sport must know that too!

Yes, but we have great specialist Bluuford on the forum.

It looks also strange to me that Citroen boys picked those starting positions. Looks like they didn't know either that it would rain heavily?

[Jeppe]

JML +26,4 sec to Mads, OMG. Is he on same compound than Mads and Ott??

[rallyfun]

Doesn't matter - when all of us on forum knew 100% it would rain already yesterday night M-Sport must know that too!

They know better ;)

[A FONDO]

Is it true that Solberg, Mikklesen and Nuville have hit the same rocks that were put there by spectators?

I dont believe it. Why only they hit it, did the spectators move the stone in real time for every car? And these guys crash everywhere anyway.

[tolis]

Please Ford M-Sport, take Bluuford next year! :D

[WRC1]

Please Ford M-Sport, take Bluuford next year! :D

and get rid of mr hollywood...

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Hirvonen, but Loeb is on a charge.

[wwbroe]

Seems like Seb is flying again

[wwbroe]

Ogier is about to catch up with Nobre if you ask me, and he is not even at 3/4 of the stage.

[wwbroe]

PG is running away from Breen, looks like he is going flat out.

[WRC1]

ogier at midpoint of the stage 2 min (!!) faster than nobre.....he had 3min gap so he will overtake him shortly!

[wwbroe]

Besttime for Seb, but only just a fraction quicker as Miko

[Viking]

Ogier flying in Latvala pace, is he thinking of next year? :)

[wwbroe]

Nikara is doing a great job, hope he keeps it on the road.

[stefanvv]

Latvala seems to back off quite a lot after Solberg's crash :confused:

[wwbroe]

Ogier must have overtook Nobre allready, or am i wrong?

[wwbroe]

Latvala seems to back off quite a lot after Solberg's crash :confused:

Back off, or just wrong tyres?

[tommeke_B]

For Dimvii

Nikara-Weijs
SS1. 4'48"5 - 5'05"0 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 16"5 (2"36/km)
SS2. 16'32"2 - 17'32"1 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 59"9 (2"25/km)
SS3. 31'07"5 - 31'29"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"8 (0"49/km)

[stefanvv]

... and is going for Powel now :D

[tolis]

Breen 15.7 faster than PG.

[spiderem]

Lol. Nowadays as soon as a rally gets a bit tricky, everybody goes off or has a spun or complains that car is not right.
2012 rally driver quote "bouhou it was raining a lot and very slippery and muddy and in the dark and very long stage, what did the organisation had in mind when preparing the rally???"
1980 driver quote "youhou we did the full stage with Tarmac tyre on snow, it was a lot of fun!!!"
To be continued...

[wwbroe]

What happened with Paddon, i don't see any more splits for him?

[stefanvv]

Back off, or just wrong tyres?

That is true also, but had great time 1st stage anyway...

[wwbroe]

That is true also, but had great time 1st stage anyway...

Yes, i agree, but he had a spin near end of stage 2 and i think he also made some error in third stage, if you have a look at his first splitimes.

[wwbroe]

I will use NOT's words for this: Powell is a disgrace for the sport. But then again, i guess he is not used to this kind of circumstances. Looks like the fight with Nobre is allready over.

[Viking]

Yes, i agree, but he had a spin near end of stage 2 and i think he also made some error in third stage, if you have a look at his first splitimes.

He said on wrr that he opted for no splits in the car and backed off to much, but i agree he has prob had an "moment" between split 1 and 2.

[stefanvv]

Lol. Nowadays as soon as a rally gets a bit tricky, everybody goes off or has a spun or complains that car is not right.
2012 rally driver quote "bouhou it was raining a lot and very slippery and muddy and in the dark and very long stage, what did the organisation had in mind when preparing the rally???"
1980 driver quote "youhou we did the full stage with Tarmac tyre on snow, it was a lot of fun!!!"
To be continued...

Interesting point, that is evolution probably :D

[wwbroe]

No news on Haydon??

[tommeke_B]

Nobre must be having the best day of his life now he's not the slowest WRCar. :D

[Iskald]

Mads Østberg is on the hard compound, has a spin in the stage and ends up less than two seconds behind Loeb. Leads the rally. Fights for 3rd in the championship. Is that impressive for a 25 year old privateer, or not!?

[noel157]

Someone mentioned an Android app for WRR earlier in the season, anybody remember?
Thanks.

[Astro83]

PG has some problems as always! :/ :(

[tommeke_B]

PG has some problems as always! :/ :(

The problem is called Proton.

[wwbroe]

PG has some problems as always! :/ :(

What problem does he have this time, suddenly the splits were becoming bad?

[AP-Racing]

Prokop

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/30962_384356854976336_720096414_n.jpg

[Astro83]

Im so angry right about now!! PROTON IS SHIIIIT! PG has a rear diff broke down...

PG is a very good and fast driver but he needs a real and fast car also. If he had driven a Ford or a Skoda, Breen and Paddon should have no chance to take him...


But lovely Proton, a peace of crap...

[Mirek]

Im so angry right about now!! PROTON IS SHIIIIT! PG has a rear diff broke down...

PG is a very good and fast driver but he needs a real and fast car also. If he had driven a Ford or a Skoda, Breen and Paddon should have no chance to take him...


But lovely Proton, a peace of crap...

Isn't it better to drive Proton than nothing?

[Georgi]

Im so angry right about now!! PROTON IS SHIIIIT! PG has a rear diff broke down...

PG is a very good and fast driver but he needs a real and fast car also. If he had driven a Ford or a Skoda, Breen and Paddon should have no chance to take him...


But lovely Proton, a peace of crap...

YES! PG is one of the best rally drivers!

[wwbroe]

Im so angry right about now!! PROTON IS SHIIIIT! PG has a rear diff broke down...

PG is a very good and fast driver but he needs a real and fast car also. If he had driven a Ford or a Skoda, Breen and Paddon should have no chance to take him...


But lovely Proton, a peace of crap...

Look at the bright sight, it happened just before service, so maybe they can fix it and he has lot's of kms to make the difference again.

[Sulland]

I think Petter will go back and visit that stone, bringing his friend Mr Sledgehammer, and make sure that stone is killed off for 2013 !!! ;-)

[Astro83]

Isn't it better to drive Proton than nothing?

hehe, maby but just now I don't like to think so... He can instead drive in our national champ or ERC or something... Proton is so not right for him, a driver like him deserves something better! That you also know ;)

Swede or not, PG is a very very good and fast driver but with a lot of problems sadly.

Yes Terra Alta 2 is still left and PG can maby take som big time on Breen there but this will be a real fight...Breen is a really good tarmac-driver and that is PG also but the Proton is slow on tarmac so this is going to be very hard if not PG take all time back on two stages and thats not going to happened but we will se... :( :(

Pleace PG drive fast as hell now :D

[Mirek]

hehe, maby but just now I don't like to think so... He can instead drive in our national champ or ERC or something...

He could sure... but it was him who wanted Proton to enter SWRC...

[stefanvv]

I think Petter will go back and visit that stone, bringing his friend Mr Sledgehammer, and make sure that stone is killed off for 2013 !!! ;-)

The rock is not alive to be killed :D It just sits there peacefully and quietly, just waiting for some to hit it :D

[Sulland]

The rock is not alive to be killed :D It just sits there peacefully and quietly, just waiting for some to hit it :D

If you ask Petter right now, I bet he will disagree. He feels the thing is after him ! :s mash: :s mash: :s mash:

[Kielder]

Some photos from this morning:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2yug21y.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/211pdn8.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/vr3bf6.jpg

[eestlane]

Kruuda, Solberg , Mikkelsen and Neuville are all in the same place and its not the same rock for Petter . 5 km further this time

[werner]

So SWRC is clear: Breen or PG, whois in front, is Champion.

PWRC: Whoever win, if Guerra stay on Podium he is Champion. Now 3rd. Guerra 4th, Kocziuszko should win to be PWRC. Same for Gorban and Fuchs.

Edit: Ligato now second overall, so he is the race ...

[Mirek]

What happened to Paddon?

[werner]

What happened to Paddon?

Seems same place OFF then Sordo. After hit by another car.

[irish_tiger]

hehe, maby but just now I don't like to think so... He can instead drive in our national champ or ERC or something... Proton is so not right for him, a driver like him deserves something better! That you also know ;)

Swede or not, PG is a very very good and fast driver but with a lot of problems sadly.

Yes Terra Alta 2 is still left and PG can maby take som big time on Breen there but this will be a real fight...Breen is a really good tarmac-driver and that is PG also but the Proton is slow on tarmac so this is going to be very hard if not PG take all time back on two stages and thats not going to happened but we will se... :( :(

Pleace PG drive fast as hell now :D

Yes but PG can make mistakes aswell ... if he is still behind going in to the tarmac his only hope is rain as the power difference beween the Proton and the Fiesta nullified ..

[tommeke_B]

Rain will not compensate the difference in power, not on these roads... ;)

[Mirek]

Seems same place OFF then Sordo. After hit by another car.

Crazy...

[Pinto]

hehe, maby but just now I don't like to think so... He can instead drive in our national champ or ERC or something... Proton is so not right for him, a driver like him deserves something better! That you also know ;)

Swede or not, PG is a very very good and fast driver but with a lot of problems sadly.

Yes Terra Alta 2 is still left and PG can maby take som big time on Breen there but this will be a real fight...Breen is a really good tarmac-driver and that is PG also but the Proton is slow on tarmac so this is going to be very hard if not PG take all time back on two stages and thats not going to happened but we will se... :( :(

Pleace PG drive fast as hell now :D


I know your 100% behind your man PG but your very dismissive of craig and hes in the position he is in,so im going to stand up for my country man,plus as you say if PG was the best ever rally driver he would not be knocking about in a Proton but in a top works team as No.1

[Astro83]

Pinto: I didnt say that PG is the best, only say that he is a really fast and great driver who never had right money to claim to the top as many of the youngsters have these days!! ;)

And yes, I absolutly think and know that PG with his experience is a better driver then Breen but it dosent metter right about now...

And Breen is fantastic and a driver who will be very fast in a cuple of years!

[Kielder]

Seems same place OFF then Sordo. After hit by another car.

http://i47.tinypic.com/28rla3m.jpg

[stefanvv]

It looks like little off, the other car made the damage?

[AP-Racing]

http://www.almrally.ru/imagelib/WRC/Date/2012/13_Spain/2012_11_09_spain_out.jpg

[stefanvv]

Only the barbeque is missing :D

[Nornbugger]

I think Petter will go back and visit that stone, bringing his friend Mr Sledgehammer, and make sure that stone is killed off for 2013 !!! ;-)

pipe and slippers for Petter in '13, love the guy but he has shown himself to be a seat thief this season

[Kielder]

It looks like little off, the other car made the damage?

First Sordo went off the road, then Paddon. I don't know if later another car hit Paddon. He tweeted this:
"Unfortunately stuck in mud on SS3, same place as Sordo".

[werner]

First Sordo went off the road, then Paddon crashed (the car which is on the road). I don't know if later another car hit it.

Yes, I think so. Car of Paddon was OK, but so slippery that he cannot go back. After should come another car hits him, so its not sure if Paddon can restart after big damage.

[Coach 2]

Kruuda, Solberg , Mikkelsen and Neuville are all in the same place and its not the same rock for Petter . 5 km further this time

Looks a bit strange, when they appear in the same picture, it will be 5 km between the stones they hit.

[werner]

I think he mean its not the same rock for Petter like 2011/12. Today seems same place.

[bassist]

http://www.almrally.ru/imagelib/WRC/Date/2012/13_Spain/2012_11_09_spain_out.jpg
Is Petter smiling or smirking? God . this bloke really gets me down sometimes- Wonder is Wilson will give him No1 in 2013?

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifeIEEU6JwQ [attachment=1:d9cl6o3o]shakehead.gif[/attachment:d9cl6o3o]

[Coach 2]

I think he mean its not the same rock for Petter like 2011/12. Today seems same place.

Of course, me stupid.

[Fly]

Nikara, Breen, Lemes :up:

[tommeke_B]

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/481688_442268005834638_949127230_n.jpg

Found this on facebook..

[Adler]

Nikara off? :/

[tommeke_B]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184825_10151236692464362_1060831852_n.jpg

How the stages look now (photo from facebook)...

[Adler]

Nikara off? :/
ok, next split just displayed delayed :)

[stefanvv]

That looks like "nice" English weather, ouch

[spiderem]

Why no splits on wrc.com?

[stefanvv]

I see them just fine

[werner]

Yes, split works.

World Rally Championship - Results - RACC Rally de Espana (http://www.wrc.com/results/2012/racc-rally-de-espana/split-times/?stageno=4)

[darkstar]

nikara is doing pretty good i must say!

[werner]

nikara is doing pretty good i must say!

but loosing a lot now to Atkinson, who is quite fast in that second run.

[EightGear]

Must say I'm disappointed so far with Weijs' pace.

[tommeke_B]

but loosing a lot now to Atkinson, who is quite fast in that second run.

In the first run he had to make the first proper line... But after some 5 cars the earlier you're on the road, the better... Now it's 2nd run, so the first cars have the advantage. :)

[darkstar]

still not bad. östberg also flying! hope he wont go off.

[Mirek]

but loosing a lot now to Atkinson, who is quite fast in that second run.

After 3 stages Nikara was 1,5 minutes ahead of Atko. You don't need to win every stage. What is important is to be seen in finish especially with such difficult conditions (hello Petter and co.).

[A FONDO]

Must say I'm disappointed so far with Weijs' pace.

What do you want from him in this mud. Wait for the real stages tomorrow.

[vkangas]

What do you want from him in this mud. Wait for the real stages tomorrow.
Rallyis a speed competition from placa A to B as fast as possible in real world's varying conditions. All stages count.

[werner]

Ostberg really fast, Tänak slow down and wait for something ... (like Mads go off). Seems if Ostberg continue that speed he can make the gap for next two days to win this Rally!

[stefanvv]

:D ØSTBERG M. / ANDERSSON J. (st. č. 10) "I'm more passenger than driver at the moment."

[bluuford]

Ostberg really fast, Tänak slow down and wait for something ... (like Mads go off). Seems if Ostberg continue that speed he can make the gap for next two days to win this Rally!

Ott is using old tyres from shakedown. There are not enough soft tyres.. I think Loeb used also most of the new softs in the morning already. But now the rain should be over.. at least for some time

[A FONDO]

Rallyis a speed competition from placa A to B as fast as possible in real world's varying conditions. All stages count.
I am talking with another person for something you dont understand, keep these common words for yourself, nobody asked you.

[EightGear]

What do you want from him in this mud. Wait for the real stages tomorrow.

Hopefully it will be better on tarmac (in the dry).

[stefanvv]

Ott is using old tyres from shakedown. There are not enough soft tyres.. I think Loeb used also most of the new softs in the morning already. But now the rain should be over.. at least for some time

Why did he used softs for shakedown when there are no much?

[darkstar]

probably he didn´t expect that there´s so bad weather i would guess?

[bluuford]

Why did he used softs for shakedown when there are no much?

They were faster in short stage

[HarriK]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7Qqg3HCIAAJN-B.jpg

and petter:
"Huge service for Petter Solberg. Gearbox, front and back axls, four corners of the car etc. Value at least of the very good civil sports car."

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s480x480/558823_523569841005053_825817938_n.jpg

[werner]

Novikov fastest ...

[A FONDO]

Hopefully it will be better on tarmac (in the dry).

You can sure he will be. And even if the tarmac is wet, he will have tarmac suspension, brakes, tyres etc.

[Gard]

I am talking with another person for something you dont understand, keep these common words for yourself, nobody asked you.

It´s an open forum. This sounds very much as a personal attack. so shut up!

[spiderem]

So it's looking good so far for ostberg to take 3rd position in championship... I know it's still early in the rally but really hope for him... Also hope for a factory drive next year, he is better for avoiding stone than mr Hollywood...

[stefanvv]

probably he didn´t expect that there´s so bad weather i would guess?

They were faster in short stage

Perhaps both are true

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why did they ever switch Catalunya to a part gravel rally ?? As if there arent already enough gravel rallies in the WRC :(

And having it in November, with awful weather, it might as well be Rally GB !

Please, we need a hot dry tarmac rally from Spain from now on.

[Mirek]

Why did they ever switch Catalunya to a part gravel rally ?? As if there arent already enough gravel rallies in the WRC :(

And having it in November, with awful weather, it might as well be Rally GB !

Please, we need a hot dry tarmac rally from Spain from now on.

When it was all asphalt everybody was complaining it's boring...

[stefanvv]

Why did they ever switch Catalunya to a part gravel rally ??

Catalunya has been almost always mixed event - Costa Brava, Costa Durada, all mixed. They've returned to old type I guess...

[Langdale Forest]

When it was all asphalt everybody was complaining it's boring...

It was only boring because Sordo wasn't allowed to win.

[stefanvv]

It was only boring because Sordo wasn't allowed to win.

This is kind of "which is first, the hen or the egg" dilemma

[dimviii]

Looks like I may have lost a bet... Good there's only one day on gravel... :D
No its NOT good because Nikara will be faster at tarmac too. :D (if car in one piece)
Just returned from work,i opened a beer :p and saw a mess at stages.Nice rally!! Lets see if Loeb can takemore than a minute from Mads at asphalt.I bet yes.

[Mirek]

It was only boring because Sordo wasn't allowed to win.

Nooo, don't start that again. You really forgot the tons of comments like "this circuit asphalt has nothing to do with rallying", "those roads are boring as hell" etc.?

[dimviii]

fresh onboard from wrc.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dozey:
World Rally Championship - Video - Browse All - Rally Spain: On-board with Sebastien Loeb (http://www.wrc.com/video/browse-all/video-rally-spain-on-board-with-sebastien-loeb/?vid=2720)

[Bartek]

Tanak have problems, yes?

I think tyres is not only problem for Tanak, from sector 4 to 7 his pace is +/- same

[Mirek]

Nikara and Atko stopped...

[Coach 2]

Next stage is crucial. Who has the tires and how worn are they before this stage.
Perhaps the outcome of the rally is decided now.

[Hartusvuori]

Nikara [and Atko] stopped...

It was fun while it lasted. Bring on Monte...

[blissard]

fresh onboard from wrc.com!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :dozey:
World Rally Championship - Video - Browse All - Rally Spain: On-board with Sebastien Loeb (http://www.wrc.com/video/browse-all/video-rally-spain-on-board-with-sebastien-loeb/?vid=2720)

I'm still waiting for LIVE stream onboards with splits.. what is the main reason they don't do this? Is it so difficult?

[Mirek]

He is moving again. Lost some 4 minutes though.

[werner]

Who said WRC is boring? (OK, I said this some times this year ...)

In PWRC, Ligato take the lead after stage 4, Guerra 6th!

Guerra must be fourth if Ligato wins.

[Hartusvuori]

Nikara puncture, stopped to change it, problems with jack too.

[Mirek]

I'm still waiting for LIVE stream onboards with splits.. what is the main reason they don't do this? Is it so difficult?

Yes, that is very very difficult. You need several helicopters and a plane for signal transmission. That is of course difficult in bad weather. In blind conditions helicopters can't fly and anyway they would take no images.

[AP-Racing]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/481751_10151241126524253_1579520249_n.jpg

[darkstar]

latvala and loeb will gain some places now. loeb´s very fast he´s probably 2nd and latvala 3rd. but östberg is impressive! good lead for him, will be exiting if he can keep loeb and latvala behind him on the tarmac.

ah damn, and novikov overpushed it...stopped in stage. stuck in a ditch as it seems.

[Allyc85]

Novikov in a ditch :(

[stefanvv]

östberg is impressive! good lead for him, will be exiting if he can keep loeb and latvala behind him on the tarmac.

His pace on tarmac is improving, I'm curious about that too...

[A.F.F.]

What an action-packed day it has been so far !!!! Can't wait to see the footage from today this evening :)

[wwbroe]

What is the reason that Hirvonen lost so muchtime, did he have problem somehow? I mean on this last stage.

[darkstar]

His pace on tarmac is improving, I'm curious about that too...

yes it is, in france he was pretty good(driving like insane!). loosing only around one minute to loeb during the whole rallye. so it might be enough lead to take that win home. plus it´s probably an advantage to be first on the road on the tarmac, cause you have clean roads and lines.

[wwbroe]

Tom, now Weys is in front of Nikara, does that mean that Dimvii owns you a beer now, or this doesn't count? :D

[Mirek]

PG and Al Rahji also stopped...

[OldF]

From iRally Twitter.

Mikko Hirvonen 32:04.4: "I had a big moment in the stage and we were sliding on top of the mud, we didn't have any grip..."

[wwbroe]

Hold your horses guy's, Loeb is going to be at approximately 30 seconds behinds Mads, so i think he will come back. But great pace by Mads, let's see what he is able of at tarmac tomorrow.

[dimviii]

Tom, now Weys is in front of Nikara, does that mean that Dimvii owns you a beer now, or this doesn't count? :D
No we said just faster times

[wwbroe]

Too bad for PG, but that Proton is just a bunch off crab

[wwbroe]

No we said just faster times

I know, i just wanted to add some competition :)

[tolis]

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/534645_451167631585698_1102888495_n.jpg

[Miika]

Loeb has this one in the bag, no worries catching Mads on tarmac.

[Bartek]

Big Seb, maybe rally will be better without him but i can't imagine them without a master :)

[wwbroe]

See Loeb's time, 10 seconds faster as Mads

[darkstar]

ah come on! don´t destroy our hopes for some exitement ;)

[stefanvv]

Ogier is hunting his next victim :D Al Kuwari...

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7Qj2U2CYAAs6Q4.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

oh Tanak..... :|

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7QPV3QCQAAZndP.jpg

[Coach 2]

I love bad weather, I want more of it.

[PLuto]

I love bad weather, I want more of it.

Especially when you are sitting behind your computer ;)

[Coach 2]

Especially when you are sitting behind your computer ;)

Ohhh yes. But that it does rally more exciting, we can agree on, right?

[Tom206wrc]

What a rally because of that crappy weather :eek:

[wwbroe]

PG came to finish after all, but loosing nearly 3 minutes to Breen. What was the problem he encountered?

[BleAivano]

PG came to finish after all, but loosing nearly 3 minutes to Breen. What was the problem he encountered?

The rear diff broke down.

[stefanvv]

What a rally because of that crappy weather :eek:

Some of the drivers out are capable of crashes without it, but I'm surprised Latvala didn't join them...

[stefanvv]

The rear diff broke down.

What? Again?

[wwbroe]

The rear diff broke down.

Are you sure, because that was reason he lost time before, but they fixed it in service?

[Rallyper]

PG had a spin and wheels pointing everywhere...

[pucky54]

Diff was never broken, it was the driveshaft. Now he went off...

[Crocone]

It's such a stupid thing to put gravel stages before tarmac stages. After the first day almost everything it's decided. On tarmac it's very difficult to close the gaps from gravel stages.

[Tom206wrc]

Must say I'm disappointed so far with Weijs' pace.


7th isn't so bad for first outing in DS3 WRC with such weather conditions ;)

[Rallyper]

21 st after first day only driven one and a half a stage isn´t bad at all. I´m thinking of Petter... :dozey:

[Kielder]

I love bad weather, I want more of it.


Especially when you are sitting behind your computer ;)

... and when you haven't walked hundreds of meters, crossed a river and stood down the rain for hours and then the stages are cancelled.
This Friday is better than last WRC Portugal Friday.

[stefanvv]

21 st after first day only driven one and a half a stage isn´t bad at all. I´m thinking of Petter... :dozey:

That sounds like your signature :D

[Kielder]

http://i50.tinypic.com/1jp3k9.jpg

[Back-N-Black]

Some of the drivers out are capable of crashes without it, but I'm surprised Latvala didn't join them...

I hate to say it but there are two more days. Keep it together JML!

[Mirek]

... and tomorrow we can happily enjoy the Gods gift called superally with half of the field in fake competition. Especially on 44 km muddy stage some 5 minutes penalty is spitting into the face of those who finished it - be it in an R2 car.

[werner]

... and tomorrow we can happily enjoy the Gods gift called superally with half of the field in fake competition. Especially on 44 km muddy stage some 5 minutes penalty is spitting into the face of those who finished it - be it in an R2 car.

In that case Nikara would be 1:20 faster on stage 5 ... but as I know the 5 minutes are from first of its class.

[AndyRAC]

... and tomorrow we can happily enjoy the Gods gift called superally with half of the field in fake competition. Especially on 44 km muddy stage some 5 minutes penalty is spitting into the face of those who finished it - be it in an R2 car.

If I had my way, if you SupeRally/ Rally2; then you can't finish ahead of somebody who had done the full event. Needs a compete rethink.

[bluuford]

I love bad weather, I want more of it.
No more bad weather for this rally Spain.
Maybe some for the last stage today.. if they decide to delay it more

[vkangas]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7Qj2U2CYAAs6Q4.jpg
Ford seems to have homologated new super-evolution wheel spacers for front to get some extra grip in corners. :)

[stefanvv]

Ford seems to have homologated new super-evolution wheel spacers for front to get some extra grip in corners. :)

You should have seen the other crashed cars, they were on magnetic ground force in front :D like the Japanese high speed trains

[tommeke_B]

Update for Dimvii

Nikara-Weijs
SS1. 4'48"5 - 5'05"0 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 16"5 (2"36/km)
SS2. 16'32"2 - 17'32"1 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 59"9 (2"25/km)
SS3. 31'07"5 - 31'29"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"8 (0"49/km)
SS4. 17'11"3 - 17'32"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"0 (0"79/km)
SS5. 37'32"4 - 33'22"3 - Weijs fastest, Nikara + 4'10"1 (mistake)

So 4-1 for Nikara at the moment, Weijs having the qualifying-stage-joker? :p
A lot of asphalt to come, start to fear... :D

[Tom206wrc]

... and tomorrow we can happily enjoy the Gods gift called superally with half of the field in fake competition. Especially on 44 km muddy stage some 5 minutes penalty is spitting into the face of those who finished it - be it in an R2 car.

Totally agree with you here :rolleyes:

[werner]

Update for Dimvii

Nikara-Weijs
SS1. 4'48"5 - 5'05"0 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 16"5 (2"36/km)
SS2. 16'32"2 - 17'32"1 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 59"9 (2"25/km)
SS3. 31'07"5 - 31'29"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"8 (0"49/km)
SS4. 17'11"3 - 17'32"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"0 (0"79/km)
SS5. 37'32"4 - 33'22"3 - Weijs fastest, Nikara + 4'10"1 (mistake)

So 4-1 for Nikara at the moment, Weijs having the qualifying-stage-joker? :p
A lot of asphalt to come, start to fear... :D

SS 6 ... Weijs 0.6 faster then Nikara ...

[stefanvv]

He already inspired him

[AP-Racing]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/373998_10151096383281607_1031527649_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Ogier in SS6 :confused:

[dimviii]

Update for Dimvii

Nikara-Weijs
SS1. 4'48"5 - 5'05"0 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 16"5 (2"36/km)
SS2. 16'32"2 - 17'32"1 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 59"9 (2"25/km)
SS3. 31'07"5 - 31'29"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"8 (0"49/km)
SS4. 17'11"3 - 17'32"3 - Nikara fastest, Weijs + 21"0 (0"79/km)
SS5. 37'32"4 - 33'22"3 - Weijs fastest, Nikara + 4'10"1 (mistake)

So 4-1 for Nikara at the moment, Weijs having the qualifying-stage-joker? :p
A lot of asphalt to come, start to fear... :D

Asked Nikara about the joker and told me that there is no problem,give it as a gift. :p

[dimviii]

What an action-packed day it has been so far !!!! Can't wait to see the footage from today this evening :)

miday video
World Rally Championship - Video - Browse All - Rally Spain: Friday Midday Wrap (http://www.wrc.com/video/browse-all/video-rally-spain-friday-midday-wrap/?vid=2723)

[Tom206wrc]

Results SS6 are long to come :mark:

[bretddog]

Well.. All pain aside. At least it will be interesting to see what never-give-up can manage to get together for 2013 after this seasons disasters. A decent challenge indeed.

Today he blames Neuville, and Petter saved the rest of the field. :)
Can't totally disagree on this one. Or am I biased..

World Rally Championship - News - Solberg reveals his pain in Spain (http://www.wrc.com/news/solberg-reveals-his-pain-in-spain/?fid=17869)

[tolis]

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/560822_123864667769057_183231577_n.jpg

[bluuford]

Results SS6 are long to come :mark:
Priority drivers started with 3 minutes caps in the morning. Now, something likge 22 cars are on the rally2 list. They could not delete the caps in regroup and there have been some more retirements after regroup.. So, basically we have lost aproximately 1 hour of cars..

[tommeke_B]

Well.. All pain aside. At least it will be interesting to see what never-give-up can manage to get together for 2013 after this seasons disasters. A decent challenge indeed.

Today he blames Neuville, and Petter saved the rest of the field. :)
Can't totally disagree on this one. Or am I biased..

World Rally Championship - News - Solberg reveals his pain in Spain (http://www.wrc.com/news/solberg-reveals-his-pain-in-spain/?fid=17869)

Tomorrow he can blame a spectator for disturbing him maybe... After countless mistakes, that Solberg has to be creative if he doesn't want to blame himself...

[darkstar]

breen is doing pretty well by the way. i would like to see him win the swrc.

[Mirek]

Where is Ogier on last stage?

[Allyc85]

Funny how petter has crashed AGAIN, while Ostberg has out in a great peformance once again to lead the rally. Now who really deserves a seat at Msport next year?? ;)

[Medved]

Ogier retired on the road section after SS5.

[dimviii]

Ogier retired on the road section after SS5.

from what?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1106_408255552575701_989874529_n.jpg

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/394998_173219472817760_589106654_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543035_384432074968814_1890905019_n.jpg

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1104/1104_rally_racc_catalunya_-_costa_daurada_2012_da1d80202c.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1104/1104_rally_racc_catalunya_-_costa_daurada_2012_288431dbd6.jpg


http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1104/1104_rally_racc_catalunya_-_costa_daurada_2012_21ee221276.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1104/1104_rally_racc_catalunya_-_costa_daurada_2012_c00a311cf7.jpg



http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1104/1104_rally_racc_catalunya_-_costa_daurada_2012_4fea628aa7.jpg



More photos from muddy day 1 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1104)

[dimviii]

where is Jafry??????????????????


edit.here he is!! Faster photographer at wrc . :D

[Back-N-Black]

Tomorrow he can blame a spectator for disturbing him maybe... After countless mistakes, that Solberg has to be creative if he doesn't want to blame himself...

We all know the kind of cuts he takes vs most of the rest of the field. Too big! He says it was not a cut though, it was in the line, believe him. The only reason others did not succumb was through the kindness of Chris Patterson warning them.

Hopefully video will give us an answer to this question so that we can stop calling PS a liar.

[bretddog]

We all know the kind of cuts he takes vs most of the rest of the field. Too big! He says it was not a cut though, it was in the line, believe him. The only reason others did not succumb was through the kindness of Chris Patterson warning them.

Hopefully video will give us an answer to this question so that we can stop calling PS a liar.

They all knocked off left front in a right-hander, it seems from the pictures, so a big hole in the line sounds quite plausible.

[Spud]

Hey guys!!! Does anyone know where Powell is???

[Mirek]

We all know the kind of cuts he takes vs most of the rest of the field. Too big! He says it was not a cut though, it was in the line, believe him. The only reason others did not succumb was through the kindness of Chris Patterson warning them.

Hopefully video will give us an answer to this question so that we can stop calling PS a liar.

Himself making people not to believe him anymore. Remember last event on Sardinia?

[Nornbugger]

Hey guys!!! Does anyone know where Powell is???

I think he discovered superrally is faster :D

[Spud]

Understood...but can you confirm?

[bluuford]

Understood...but can you confirm?
He felt a little ill and plans to restart tomorrow after long sleep.

[CWJ]

So who is going?
Me
Rage82
6789
Priorat
MartijnS
Nelly (I presume)
Please add to the list in quote edit if you are attending.

Bar in Salou early Friday evening anyone, say 1900hrs (by which time the drivers will have been interviewed and gone to their hotels)? Open to suggestions but,
Robin Hood Avenida Del Principat D'Andorra, 19, 43840 Salou.was fine in 2009. Will bow to local knowledge, however.

Bar was closed :-( pitty.

[rallye-sport]

Friday update (Day 1) -> http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-despagne-2012/


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/espagne-2012/vialatte_aurelien_41.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/espagne-2012/vialatte_aurelien_42.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/espagne-2012/vialatte_aurelien_48.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/espagne-2012/vialatte_aurelien_46.jpg

[Rom1]

Our pics here:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/532268_462622153780139_776072109_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/28754_462622203780134_1535434582_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/485108_462622637113424_1496317572_n.jpg

Everything is on Eyes of Rally Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/eyesofrally)

[rallyfun]

It's such a stupid thing to put gravel stages before tarmac stages. After the first day almost everything it's decided. On tarmac it's very difficult to close the gaps from gravel stages.

Is it that stupid or we can tell who is a man and who is a boy?

[bluuford]

Ogier retired on the road section after SS5.
.. and he will not restart tomorrow. Sudden end for his S2000 career.

[stefanvv]

Everything is on Eyes of Rally Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/eyesofrally)

Who stole Sordo's headlights?

[Back-N-Black]

Himself making people not to believe him anymore. Remember last event on Sardinia?

I am very old and my memory is ****, please remind me.

[Mirek]

.. and he will not restart tomorrow. Sudden end for his S2000 career.

What happened? Another engine?

[Mirek]

I am very old and my memory is ****, please remind me.

Check this: http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/151040-rally-italia-sardegna-2012-18-21-october-2012-a-32.html#post1076561

[rallyfun]

Will Seb catch them on the first loop?

[stefanvv]

Check this: http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/151040-rally-italia-sardegna-2012-18-21-october-2012-a-32.html#post1076561

Solberg seems old too, yes.