No reg plates on Rally of France

[navtheace]

Is this the start of rally cars moving towards a form of motor sport where cars will not be road registered?

Although the reason is due to the EU rules of modified vehicles?

[aykutbilir]

I can see that all WRC cars have rally plates on at France. But they are very small. :)

[Mirek]

It was discussed in Rally France topic. It was the case only of French registered cars because in June French government changed rules for competition cars.

It's nothing new, many other countries have special plates for rally cars (my country too). The cars are anyway allowed on public roads only under special regime. You can't use them for driving to work or shopping. There are different homologation rules, different loudness and emission standards etc.

[navtheace]

Does it mean French registered cars that are rally cars no longer have road registered documents/reg plates etc?

It's interesting, as rallying is all about a road legal and registered car. Yet a rally car registered in France is not allowed to be driven on the road (unless on a road section of a rally it is entered into).

[pucky54]

The rule is there since the beginning of the year...

From the middle of the year (June 2012) ;)

[Mirek]

Does it mean French registered cars that are rally cars no longer have road registered documents/reg plates etc?

It's interesting, as rallying is all about a road legal and registered car. Yet a rally car registered in France is not allowed to be driven on the road (unless on a road section of a rally it is entered into).

In which country rally cars are fully road legal (can be driven every day to supermarket etc.)? In my opinion You can't find any such country in Europe.

[BOZIANracing]

In which country rally cars are fully road legal (can be driven every day to supermarket etc.)? In my opinion You can't find any such country in Europe.

I thought the TTE Corollas had a road approval test? Similiar to British MOT? Correct me if I'm wrong

[noel157]

In which country rally cars are fully road legal (can be driven every day to supermarket etc.)? In my opinion You can't find any such country in Europe.

Northern Ireland/Ireland. Taxed (and tested MOT/NCT if necessary). Drive to work every day if you want in a WRC. Used to be the case anyway.

[Mirek]

Thanks guys, that's interesting.

[Hartusvuori]

No matter what's behind it, I loved the fact the cars had visible competition numbers in front and behind. Factory cars look almost the same (Fords do look the same?) without them, so it's just good for spectators. Should be mandatory everywhere.

[Jeppe]

In which country rally cars are fully road legal (can be driven every day to supermarket etc.)? In my opinion You can't find any such country in Europe.

Also in England WRC cars have normal reg. plates. In the Dovenby-Cockermouth area M-Sport employees use to test drive WRC cars after overhauls. They do something like 20 km loops with those in the normal trafic. I´ve even seen that Live ;)

[J4MIE]

Yes, all over the UK there are rally cars whose owners drive to and from work, shopping etc, sometimes it is their only car so it gets used for everything. Some drive their cars to the events, do the rally, then drive home afterwards.

[gtimad73]

i did notice that all the msport cars have road tax disc on the bottom of the rollcage. i was wondering if the need some sort of Mot to get them?

[navtheace]

i did notice that all the msport cars have road tax disc on the bottom of the rollcage. i was wondering if the need some sort of Mot to get them?

From new registration a UK car does not need an MOT.

Then after three years, a car needs to pass an MOT test, then every year after that. All rally cars entering a rally need to show their MOT certificate if over 3 years old.

Yes you need an MOT to get the tax disc (if over 3 years old). Also insurance needs to be valid.

[gtimad73]

thanks for clearing that up for me.. :)

[navtheace]

thanks for clearing that up for me.. :)

A bit more info here New MOT regulations (http://www.the-ace.org.uk/new-mot-regulations-how-modified-is-a-modified/)

Basically, if you present your well prepared rally car with the rally paperwork and sensibly explain all the modifications to the tester. He will pass the car fro you along with the notes from VOSA who are the official body that the MOT rules answer to etc.

[MK2 BDG]

It was discussed in Rally France topic. It was the case only of French registered cars because in June French government changed rules for competition cars.

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Not just the french registered cars,,
We all had to remove the number plates, and fit the comp number stickers in place of the rear one, and on the righthand upper side of the front screen !!! (even if a right hand drive vehicle, and it block some forward view )

At Ypres this year, we had to run the front sticker, as we were to be crossing the border in France !!!

We also had a jobsworth of a scruit,, as we were not allowed to run with "aftermarket tint film" on the rear windows,, So we had to remove them after a short discussion !!!

Strange how other vehicles, registered in other countries were allowed to run with them !!!

[Maui J.]

In which country rally cars are fully road legal (can be driven every day to supermarket etc.)? In my opinion You can't find any such country in Europe.

New Zealand. All NZRC cars must have a registration and current WOF (Warrant of Fitness/road worthiness... brakes, steering safety etc, just like your grandmothers shopping cart).
I believe all international cars that come for RallyNZ also have to display a current NZ WOF, but instead of displaying them on the windscreen they are often stuck to the rollcage on the co-drivers side.

[Sulland]

In which country rally cars are fully road legal (can be driven every day to supermarket etc.)? In my opinion You can't find any such country in Europe.

Also in Norway all rally cars need to be road legal, and have a reg plate.
either a normal one, or a special one, but the special one only has to do with reduced import tax, and nothing with tech, and security. If you choose black plates, there are limitations on normal use, due to import tax you have not paid, when you took it in from another country.

[br21]

and how is it done in Estonia? I've noticed red reg. plates on some rally cars? Also some rally cars from Latvia are registered with red estonian reg. plates?