Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_De_eDuqEE

Lucky spectators...

[spiderem]

the videos highlight on speed channel, with paul king commentating, is that produced by red bull?
I am a bit lost about who is doing what with regards to tv production...

[spiderem]

it's me, or Dmack is a bit of a joke?

[A.F.F.]

Juho saved a set of studded tyres yesterday ( or a pair at least ). Hopefully it will pay off today....

[AP-Racing]

Grosse attaque Sébastien Ogier Rally Monte Carlo 2013 ES11 Saint Jean en Royans - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMSD6MUuIaU)

[GigiGalliNo1]

the videos highlight on speed channel, with paul king commentating, is that produced by red bull?
I am a bit lost about who is doing what with regards to tv production...

Correct. It is Red Bull produced. All countries get the version with Paul King but the commentators different depending on language.

But if one country like Russia for axample can cut and add in extra stories or coverage. Or Finnish for Finland and MTV. But they don't make the video. Red Bull Media does.

[WUff1]

Because:

A - his Mini sux
B - he is a slow driver

Maybe Kajetanowicz and Kosciuszko should exchange their cars and rally schedules in Dynamic Lotos Rallye Team ;)

[Priorat]

Some photos from my visit to Lachamp

ralliaire (http://ralliaire.blogspot.com.es/)

[Mise]

I've been "studying" these videos. Noticed that Loeb is way faster than others to get out from a hearspin.
He comes in undertearing and doesn't let the car go overstearing. Accseleration is in control, front tyres are streight.
Ogier cames the same, but often let's the car slide when starts to accelerate. Front tyres are opposite to the sideway.
Bouffier is the same as Ogier, but lets the car slide less.
Jari-Matti comes all sideways to the hearspin and leaves sideways.

Have to "study" more about Mikko, Dani and Juho.

[stefanvv]

http://i46.tinypic.com/xqja4p.jpg


:eek:

[dimviii]

I've been "studying" these videos. Noticed that Loeb is way faster than others to get out from a hearspin.
He comes in undertearing and doesn't let the car go overstearing. Accseleration is in control, front tyres are streight.
Ogier cames the same, but often let's the car slide when starts to accelerate. Front tyres are opposite to the sideway.
Bouffier is the same as Ogier, but lets the car slide less.
Jari-Matti comes all sideways to the hearspin and leaves sideways.

Have to "study" more about Mikko, Dani and Juho.

very true about Loeb-Ogier-Latvala.Same happens at gravel rallies.Mikko seems to adapt his style to Loebs vs previous years.Dani the same style almost like Loeb.Hanninen more sideways specially at corner exit.
its very impressive how Loeb manages to have almost always straight steering at corners exit at these circumstances(ise-snow) something=faster at gas pedal at exits.

[stefanvv]

very true about Loeb-Ogier-Latvala.Same happens at gravel rallies.Mikko seems to adapt his style to Loebs vs previous years.Dani the same style almost like Loeb.Hanninen more sideways specially at corner exit.
its very impressive how Loeb manages to have almost always straight steering at corners exit at these circumstances(ise-snow) something=faster at gas pedal at exits.

Must have something to do with Citroen's diffs. I think it is easier this driving style and Hirvonen had to learn last year to change his driving style according to this car's behavior.

[Mise]

very true about Loeb-Ogier-Latvala.Same happens at gravel rallies.Mikko seems to adapt his style to Loebs vs previous years.Dani the same style almost like Loeb.Hanninen more sideways specially at corner exit.
its very impressive how Loeb manages to have almost always straight steering at corners exit at these circumstances(ise-snow) something=faster at gas pedal at exits.

Mikko said in Vauhdin Maailma's interview that he has practised tarmac driving in stages and in a track with a circuit racer, but he learn the most about tarmac driving last year by watching the data from Loebs car.
They have the same "taste" to set up a car.

[amilk]

I've been "studying" these videos. Noticed that Loeb is way faster than others to get out from a hearspin.
He comes in undertearing and doesn't let the car go overstearing. Accseleration is in control, front tyres are streight.
Ogier cames the same, but often let's the car slide when starts to accelerate. Front tyres are opposite to the sideway.
Bouffier is the same as Ogier, but lets the car slide less.
Jari-Matti comes all sideways to the hearspin and leaves sideways.

Have to "study" more about Mikko, Dani and Juho.

Ogier said : "I can be much quicker" - so easy run for him :) (despite on the videos photos we can see lot of small mistakes)

[dimviii]

Ogier said : "I can be much quicker" - so easy run for him :) (despite on the videos photos we can see lot of small mistakes)
after 20-30 videos we have see and hundrets of photos is easy to understant who is pushing and whois cruising. ;)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_3uBh-d6gog#!

[stefanvv]

after 20-30 videos we have see and hundrets of photos is easy to understant who is pushing and whois cruising. ;)

Probably true

EDIT: But may be must be pointed out VW were taking it easy on asphalt section to save the studs, also yesterday they were with 2 super softs on the back, which is not ideal on snow of course

[stefanvv]

Right now on Servus TV: ServusTV - ServusTV Livestream (http://www.servustv.com/cs/Satellite/Article/Default_Title-011259271928203)

[tolis]

Everyone wants to go to Turini

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150951_586726531341622_174514212_n.jpg

[dimviii]

little of topic

i want it NOW!!! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C4SlBujoRsY

[Allyc85]

Right I have had to sign up to Twitter to keep up to date with the rally while I am at football this afternoon, could you guys write a list of the best people to follow for quick, up to date news? :)

[dimviii]

Right I have had to sign up to Twitter to keep up to date with the rally while I am at football this afternoon, could you guys write a list of the best people to follow for quick, up to date news? :)
drivers comments at stages stops

WRC - Rallye Monte-Carlo - Positions, Information, Videos and Photos live from the Rallye Monte-Carlo | Best of Rally Live by Michelin | (http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/Bestofrallylive/LiveNews/(evt)/3419)

also live radio at official site,+splits

[dimviii]

about the straight steering at corners exit
http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/14/32/92/06/74390_10.jpg

[dimviii]

fly!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151276799189947

[rallye-vid]

fly!



Ogier knows the place from last year.. right? ;)

[dimviii]

Ogier knows the place from last year.. right? ;)

is the same place where he wrecked the fabia? didn t noticet it! thanks mate.

[gregwrc]

Everyone wants to go to Turini

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/150951_586726531341622_174514212_n.jpg

A lot of Greeks are now on the road to Turini ..... In my opinion the best day in WRC every year .... i can't wait !!!!!

[stefanvv]

is the same place where he wrecked the fabia? didn t noticet it! thanks mate.

It is exactly the same place. There is even still dirt on the road thrown from him back then :D .

[stefanvv]

little of topic

i want it NOW!!! :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C4SlBujoRsY

Take 2 and give 1 to SIT as gift :D

[oyunbozan]

Ogier said : "I can be much quicker" - so easy run for him :) (despite on the videos photos we can see lot of small mistakes)

it is hard to adapt the rythm if you are not pushing a bit more than taking easy. mostly because of braking points, you brake too early, not enough momentum for the turn, and if you are slower than your pacenote, you want to brake a bit later. than your pacenote doesnt suit the turn.. ect ect..


Citroen has a purpose-designed engine.

About the engine from 5:28

WRC - Citroën DS3 WRC - La genèse - The story (English subtitles) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB5YFONFJEY&feature=player_embedded)

i heard somewhere (i'd love to remember where :( ) fiesta WRC engine is a downsized s2000 2.0L engine., is it still purpose built? well ofcourse it is racing engine, i did not mean that. i mean is all those engines of WRC, has no relation to road going versions? are the like, F1 engines?


That was in 2.0 NA S2000 regulations. 1.6T S2000 (WRC) regulations allow to build a "world engine" from scratch like in WTCC.

interesting info, thanks.

[Kielder]

Latvala in Sisteron:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA9qqj9CcAE1ofp.jpg:large

[tolis]

Lucky Hanninen!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WYtZrcK7UHU

[Kielder]

Col du Turini is ready!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA9WC6rCMAErklz.jpg:large

[stefanvv]

Lucky Hanninen!

And emotional camera man :D

[stefanvv]

:D :DRALLYTHEWORLD.com (http://www.rallytheworld.com/#webisodes)

[Kielder]

http://i49.tinypic.com/r9363c.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/wc1csn.jpg

According to Daniel Darral, who uploaded the photos and did a recce one hour ago, the Turini is full of snow and it's still snowing. But it's dry down the bottom, so...

[Kielder]

View from the press office window one hour ago:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA9m6gvCcAAneVy.jpg:large

[Mirek]

Because:

A - his Mini sux
B - he is a slow driver

C - DMack (Prokop keeps complaining about their winter tyres)
D - First start with WRC car

[Kielder]

Meanwhile, Lantosque-Luceram:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA92OFkCYAIRETk.jpg:large

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

I hope that DMack´s real winter tyre in Sweden is better.

[Mirek]

I hope that DMack´s real winter tyre in Sweden is better.

We'll see, I have no idea. Prokop said they did very good job improving their asphalt tyres but unfortunately nobody expected to do whole MRC on wide snow tyres which are normally useful only for one event in the season...

[bluuford]

So, the wetaher looks like 4 studs for Turini, then 2 supersofts and 2 studs for next stage and 4 studs for Turini again. Temperature at 900m is around +1 at the moment. That means 0 degrees at around 1100m. Currently snow aind rainfall should get heavier.

[OldF]

I've been "studying" these videos. Noticed that Loeb is way faster than others to get out from a hearspin.
He comes in undertearing and doesn't let the car go overstearing. Accseleration is in control, front tyres are streight.
Ogier cames the same, but often let's the car slide when starts to accelerate. Front tyres are opposite to the sideway.
Bouffier is the same as Ogier, but lets the car slide less.
Jari-Matti comes all sideways to the hearspin and leaves sideways.

Have to "study" more about Mikko, Dani and Juho.

Mikko has said when he has compared data from his and Loeb’s driving that he is coming to fast into corners.

I once saw a animation comparing Loeb’s and Marcus breaking on tarmac (WRC was on Eurosport). Marcus had one long breaking but Loeb had several short breakings probably to have optimum speed entering the corner.

Isn’t said that slow in and fast out.

[stefanvv]

Ari Vatanen: "If you go off the road in Finland, you hope not to hit a tree. If you go off the road in the mountains above Monte Carlo, you hope to hit a tree" :D

[stefanvv]

Yestreday's coverage is online:
WRC 2013 Monte Carlo Day 3 - Part 1/2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnkRekAgzqs)
WRC 2013 Monte Carlo Day 3 - Part 2/2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6EEkqVZk3A)

[OldF]

I hope that DMack´s real winter tyre in Sweden is better.

Ketomaa says that he has now been him selves involved in the development of the DMACK winter tyres and the tyres should be better now.

Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Furheilu%2Fralli%2Fuut iset.shtml%2F2013%2F01%2F1686367%2Fketomaa-saa-wrc-kilpurin-ruotsin-mm-ralliin)

Btw, are Swedish type tyres allowed in Latvia?

[makinen_fan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmhkEPauNNo&feature=youtu.be&a

[Mirek]

i heard somewhere (i'd love to remember where :( ) fiesta WRC engine is a downsized s2000 2.0L engine., is it still purpose built? well ofcourse it is racing engine, i did not mean that. i mean is all those engines of WRC, has no relation to road going versions? are the like, F1 engines?

It's not. Fiesta WRC engine is based on modern stock 1.6 Eco Boost engine. Mini engine is also production based (PSA/BMW EP6CDT). I think that Citroën and VW uses purpose built racing units however I'm not sure about VW.

[Kielder]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8228/8393687275_3c1ee0a566_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8051/8394771182_d61d08d408_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8055/8394770618_57426e03dd_b.jpg
http://stefdevedas.free.fr/getitext.php?i=SAISON_2013/Monte_Carlo_2013/MC2013__399_.jpg
http://stefdevedas.free.fr/getitext.php?i=SAISON_2013/Monte_Carlo_2013/MC2013__126_.jpg

[Mirek]

About the ideal steering. I was thinking to myself the same when I saw this photo of Novikov. All wheels perfectly straight with best possible traction.

http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2013/01/18/130118101654443361.jpg

[bluuford]

Btw, are Swedish type tyres allowed in Latvia?

I think so, it is normal winterrally.

[andyone]

so wont there be any live stream for col de turini.. i cant wait.

[stefanvv]

I think so, it is normal winterrally.

Definitelly allowed, read it in the guide.

[pettersolberg29]

Right I have had to sign up to Twitter to keep up to date with the rally while I am at football this afternoon, could you guys write a list of the best people to follow for quick, up to date news? :)

Best person to follow I find is JB @planetemarcus. Has updates, stage times and photos.

[A FONDO]

so wont there be any live stream for col de turini.. i cant wait.

live stream? bah! it would be a miracle if the splits are working properly!

[stefanvv]

so wont there be any live stream for col de turini.. i cant wait.

The only one I know would be here - Rally di Montecarlo 2013 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/direttarally/montecarlo2013), but not sure it would stream well

[Mad cat jnr]

The only one I know would be here - Rally di Montecarlo 2013 on Livestream (http://new.livestream.com/direttarally/montecarlo2013), but not sure it would stream well

Are these guys recording a bit and then uploading? As I seem to be able to skip through the 'live' footage, unless I am looking in the wrong place?

[stefanvv]

Are these guys recording a bit and then uploading? As I seem to be able to skip through the 'live' footage, unless I am looking in the wrong place?

It should be where it says "Broadcaster" (at top of videos), the rest are videos, yes

[Mad cat jnr]

Im guessing they arent broadcasting live yet then as I have the same video over and over again as 'Broadcaster'

[ToughMac]

it is hard to adapt the rythm if you are not pushing a bit more than taking easy. mostly because of braking points, you brake too early, not enough momentum for the turn, and if you are slower than your pacenote, you want to brake a bit later. than your pacenote doesnt suit the turn.. ect ect..



i heard somewhere (i'd love to remember where :( ) fiesta WRC engine is a downsized s2000 2.0L engine., is it still purpose built? well ofcourse it is racing engine, i did not mean that. i mean is all those engines of WRC, has no relation to road going versions? are the like, F1 engines?



interesting info, thanks.

From what I know there are only two purpose built engines in the WRC at the minute Citroen and VW. Both Ford and Mini are derived from production units.

[OldF]

Definitelly allowed, read it in the guide.

Thanks.

[Kielder]

voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)
SS15 very challenging! 0.5c and sleet at start, slush turning to snow and ice to Col at 14kms. Wet to stop.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA-SvGxCAAEpCam.jpg:large

[OldF]

Julian Porter

Conditions at 1kms into Turini stage and we are only at 850 metres!

https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/292613783665405952/photo/1

[OldF]

Julian Porter

Conditions just off the Col De Turini!

https://twitter.com/The_Rally_Guru/status/292620606707478528/photo/1

[rallyfanbelgium]

Snow,Snow the battle Novikov VS Sordo.

http://www.facebook.com/bestrallyvideos

[Kielder]

Everyone was spying Loeb's tyre choice. Do you know why?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA-YDbwCAAMOy9H.jpg

[Prisoner Monkeys]

Everyone was spying Loeb's tyre choice. Do you know why?
Probably because he's a nine-time World Champion, and you don't become nine-time World Champion by deciding your tyre chocie with a magic 8-ball.

[Kielder]

Probably because he's a nine-time World Champion, and you don't become nine-time World Champion by deciding your tyre chocie with a magic 8-ball.

It was a rhetorical question :) . Everybody knows that Loeb won't lose the rally due to a tyre choice.

[Salist]

Crazy rally fanatics: :-)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA-hLwlCIAIX8ac.jpg:large
Photo: Julian Porter

[dimviii]

Ogier at the same point he wrecked the fabia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q67Zd2rSk_Q&feature=youtu.be

[Mise]

It was a rhetorical question :) . Everybody knows that Loeb won't lose the rally due to a tyre choice.

Actuaaly Mikko said in the same VM interview that it doesn't actually matter what tyres Loeb has.
He is cabable of making fast stage times with the wrong tyres too.
That's not fare, is it? :D :rolleyes:

[dimviii]

http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/15/55/17/58/mc201318.jpghttp://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/15/55/17/58/mc201314.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530647_10151201398305754_1697971957_n.jpghttp://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_9418.jpg

[Salist]

Live stream???

[PLuto]

Last leg of Rallye Monte Carlo, legendary Turini night starts - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rallye-monte-carlo-2013)

[Kielder]

ACM has delayed 25 minutes the second and third run through Turini and the second one through Luceram to allow ovreurs drive into them again. So, SS16 at 17:17, SS17 at 21.23 and SS18 at 22.06.

[PLuto]

Live stream???

You are joking? This is not IRC, this is WRC. So no live stream...

[Salist]

A secret live stream? :-)

[EightGear]

Live stream???

Did you live under a rock the past year?

[Mise]

http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/15/55/17/58/mc201314.jpg


This is a great pic of Loeb coming to the corner, understearing and in control.

[amilk]

You are joking? This is not IRC, this is WRC. So no live stream...

yeah nice memories but at least WRC still alive

[stefanvv]

Splits are improved today perhaps?

EDIT: No, still the same story

[EightGear]

VW hospitality on the Turini:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/50faab6431659/50faab642c071-vw.jpg

[Salist]

Ogier -24,8s

[Rally Hokkaido]

0 car stopped, but 00 has taken over its duties

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ogier 52.4 seconds quicker then Loeb in Stage!

[GigiGalliNo1]

SIT...... not doing so good with the splits AGAIN in Monte!

[had_zachau]

no its 24.8s

[Rally Hokkaido]

R you sure, Matt? Now, -9

Ogier 52.4 seconds quicker then Loeb in Stage!

[stefanvv]

no its 24.8s

The difference is melting like snow in March

EDIT: Now it became 9 secs :D :D

[dimviii]

Ogier 52.4 seconds quicker then Loeb in Stage!

something happens,at my previous refresh was Ogier -52 at same split is now -24

[Salist]

SIT is a sh.t! The splits time not working good again!!! :-(

[Mise]

Ogier -24,8s

That's nothing. We had -29 in the morning. :rolleyes: :D

[mousti]

SIT ****ing up again, nice. What a huge failure!

[had_zachau]

now it is 9.0 s, what a mess

[amilk]

something happens,at my previous refresh was Ogier -52 at same split is now -24

you can never be sure it's "Turini time" now

[donlorean]

Time lottery starts again... And last day in this kind of rally. SIT is going to fail big time if this continue all day...

[amilk]

it would be more intersting not have any splits - neither for the drivers

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novik - off :(

JML also off the road ... :rolleyes:

[Salist]

@Becsywecsy: this split's gap is dropping faster than the temperature...

[andyone]

latvala offthe road and novikov on three wheels

[GigiGalliNo1]

Novikov on 3 Wheels!!! JML OFF!!!!!

[dimviii]

http://stefdevedas.free.fr/getitext.php?i=SAISON_2013/Monte_Carlo_2013/MC2013__627_.jpghttp://stefdevedas.free.fr/getitext.php?i=SAISON_2013/Monte_Carlo_2013/MC2013__601_.jpg

[Francis44]

And it starts, Novikov on three wheels and Latvala off.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Novikov lost a wheel, JML is off road according to George D

[Mise]

Novikov with three wheels, Latvala off

[seb_sh]

Seems that Novikov and Latvala are up to their old tricks again.

[OldF]

Sordo second split – 1:02,9 ????

[GigiGalliNo1]

R you sure, Matt? Now, -9

hai hai!

hahaha

[Mad cat jnr]

Oh here comes the JML and Novikov bashing...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!

[Gregor-y]

latvala offthe road and novikov on three wheels

Since it's not a split time I guess we're treating George D's news seriously?

[Salist]

At this moment: 17,2s :-)


Sordo second split – 1:02,9 ????

[Rallyper]

It´s ridiculus that split times could be changed so many times... on samt splits?

This is a farse. Hope it´s not Loeb who´s gaining on this... (the times I mean)

[ToughMac]

Splits are all over the place, changing every minute now what a shambles.

[seb_sh]

Since it's not a split time I guess we're treating George D's news seriously?

It seems VW confirm the news about Latvala.

[andyone]

Since it's not a split time I guess we're treating George D's news seriously?
thats all we got for now

[Mirek]

I had a feeling of big dramas in the last leg for a couple of days and I'm pretty sure it's not the end today.

[Racing Ka]

It's not. Fiesta WRC engine is based on modern stock 1.6 Eco Boost engine. Mini engine is also production based (PSA/BMW EP6CDT). I think that Citroën and VW uses purpose built racing units however I'm not sure about VW.

Fiesta block is old downsized 2,0 Duratec, only cylinder head is purpose built for motorsport use.

[Salist]

@JariMattiWRC

JML and Miikka OK after an incident on SS14 :-( Hopefully moree news when we can...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML and Miikka OK after an incident on SS14 :-( Hopefully more news when we can..


Must be a bad one... Loeb seems to confirm conditions are terrible.

[WUff1]

Latvala is out!

[Mise]

Hänninen -34,7. So it will change to 8 secs :D

[darkstar]

if those splits are right in anyway, this will be a massive time for hänninen. maybe also ogier will take a lot of time from loeb. loeb is complainig the car is undriveable!

hm, only 3 seconds faster...

[JRodrigues]

Condition de merde :D

[dimviii]

http://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/15/12/63/22/img_7310.jpghttp://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/15/12/63/22/img_7311.jpghttp://i12.servimg.com/u/f12/15/12/63/22/img_7312.jpg

[Rally Hokkaido]

The guy says the stage is m*rde, with max speed of 30kmh on the straights

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Qatar M-Sport WRT ‏@QMWRT

(https://twitter.com/QMWRT) Damage to the rear-left wheel for Evgeny on SS14... more info to follow...

[dimviii]

So now Hirvonen is 4th.

[had_zachau]

Loeb lose 10 minutes to best Hirvo's last year time

[Mise]

Anything about the tyres choises? Mikko over minute faster than Loeb

[seb_sh]

This probably means Sordo up to third and Hirvonen to 4th so Hirvonen has a good chance at the podium even with his bad pace.

[Mirek]

The guy says the stage is m*rde, with max speed of 30kmh on the straights

Average speed 57 km/h. You can't do that driving 30 on straight ;)

[Rallyper]

This is Mikko stages!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Whats wrong with these guys struggling with 4WD and studs... they want to try 270bhp, FWD and summer tyres ! :rotflmao:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v282/EddieFocus/FACELIFT%20ST/Photo-0029smudge.jpg?t=1358604723

[dimviii]

Anything about the tyres choises? Mikko over minute faster than Loeb

probably first cars open lines on the snow.

[amilk]

This is Mikko stages!

too early to say

[RJM]

Bouffier is going quick!

[Franky]

Bouffier's time if it is real, is fast

[Salist]

Novikov stopped on stage!

[Mirek]

Don't believe splits guys.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Qatar M-Sport WRT ‏@QMWRT

(https://twitter.com/QMWRT) Evgeny now stopped on SS14 and out of #RallyeMonteCarlo (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RallyeMonteCarlo&src=hash). Impact less than 3km into stage and caused substantial damage to rear-left wheel :(

[A FONDO]

What is the record for lowest average speed at WRC stage? (excluding disneyland superspecials)

[Salist]

Bad news...

[Franky]

Don't believe splits guys.

Yep, but you never know which one might be real :D

[mousti]

RT @CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Bryan Bouffier overtook Juho Hanninen in the stage. Massive gaps!#WRC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WRC&src=hash)
#montecarlo (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23montecarlo&src=hash)

[pettersolberg29]

RT @CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Bryan Bouffier overtook Juho Hanninen in the stage. Massive gaps!#WRC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WRC&src=hash)
#montecarlo (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23montecarlo&src=hash)

If true then Bouffier is on a stormer!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Mads comes in b4 Juho????

[WUff1]

RT
@CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Bryan Bouffier overtook Juho Hanninen in the stage. Massive gaps!
#WRC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WRC&src=hash)#montecarlo (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23montecarlo&src=hash)

What about Ostberg in between?

[darkstar]

what the f*ck did bouffier do there??? that´s massive!

[Juha_Koo]

Holy fcuk... What the hell is going on?! :eek:

[Mirek]

Juho probably another one to hit troubles :(

[userwave]

Major drama

[stefanvv]

Juho probably another one to hit troubles :(

Yes, Boufier said saw him stopped

[Andre Oliveira]

What a Monte Carlo :) A real one

[Gregor-y]

Juho, no!

[Salist]

Where is Juho?

[Rally Hokkaido]

Juho stopped 5kms b4 finish according to Brian B

[WUff1]

What´s the problem with Juho? Been surpassed by Mads and Bryan on stage?!

[Mirek]

Stopped 5 km from finish...

[pettersolberg29]

what the f*ck did bouffier do there??? that´s massive!

Full respect to Bouffier there!

[Zeropt]

Monte Carlo roulette has began! :D

[WUff1]

Stopped 5 km from finish...

Ohh ****!

[Mirek]

Bouffier wow!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Bryan Bouffier split times incorrect on WRC.com

[dimviii]

If true then Bouffier is on a stormer!

Bouffier has same tyres as vw.Ford and Citroen works same

[Rallyper]

I think these top ace drivers should be better driving on these roads. This what we have in swedish ordinary traffic several times a year... :s mokin:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novikov and Hanninen out... real shame for them and Ford after 3 good days... ;(

[Kielder]

I wasn't even capable to push a keyboard's key while I was hearing the radio. What a legendary stage!

[amilk]

Monte Carlo roulette has began! :D

I think it's finished also - too big diferencies, all of them happy with thier position, no more attack

[Salist]

Qatar M-Sport WRT @QMWRT

Juho off the road on SS14 too

[WUff1]

What a stage this is ... unbelievable!

[RJM]

Juho missing wheel!

[dot-niek]

Kremer for stage win?

[rp]

Pure lottery once again, but only the best drivers will survive. Not a surprise to see Novikov and Latvala out, but very disappointed to Juho to do the same...

So it was the 1st ever crash for the Volkswagen Polo R WRC. More to follow...

[Mirek]

I think it's finished also - too big diferencies, all of them happy with thier position, no more attack

Too big? 4 stages to go in these crazy conditions. Mads took 40 seconds from Mikko now in just one stage. One minute remaining but four stages! Anything can happen.

[stefanvv]

(4 - Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas): I am really shocked. I can walk through this stage faster. I am allowed to swear to the radio? It was clean and nice stage, I enjoy it. And to say the truth - it was disaster. Lot of snow and wet places. We are not driving the cars.

[Rallyper]

Now 10 minutes and four cars into stage 15 and no splits...

[Franky]

Girl Latvala is out. :D

You know, for such kind of stupid comments there should be a ice hockey style penalty box for forum users.

[Salist]

unacceptable


Now 10 minutes and four cars into stage 15 and no splits...

[Mirek]

2WD can use narrow tyres, right? The time of Caillet or Crugnola can't be set on wide tyres in my opinion.

[Mise]

You know, for such kind of stupid comments there should be a ice hockey style penalty box for forum users.

No, the penalty should be ice hockey style without the gloves....

[Mirek]

Girl Latvala is out. :D

Is somebody paying You for stupid comments or are You such an idiot?

[RS]

but failed...

Again.

Let's look on the bright side. Latvala currently has a 100% crash rate with VW so it can only get better from now on :)

[had_zachau]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/150071_10151201641110754_1892312251_n.jpg

[Salist]

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/150071_10151201641110754_1892312251_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

Again.

Let's look on the bright side. Latvala currently has a 100% crash rate with VW so it can only get better from now on :)

On the bright side would be 2nd and 3rd for first VW Rally, you know who is 1st :D

[dimviii]

so no splits at all for ss 15.......

[werner]

Also Leader 2WD Maurage DS3 outon SS14?

[EightGear]

At the end of SS15 all drivers are still talking about the Turini. :D

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Ruki veer!!! :D

[GallardoGT]

Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rallye-monte-carlo-2013/?ssId=1489)

[Franky]

Also Leader 2WD Maurage DS3 outon SS14?

Seems so. He is in the retirement list already on WRC.

[Salist]

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45965_10151201648340754_869583459_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

At the end of SS15 all drivers are still talking about the Turini. :D

It is too soon, and too boring :D

[Kielder]

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/45965_10151201648340754_869583459_n.jpg

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428143_145712052250985_614442221_n.jpg

[werner]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428143_145712052250985_614442221_n.jpg

Exact this view I had 1995 at midnight ...

[stefanvv]

Guess which stage is now coming

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Mikko was fast at SS15. Nice.

[Jerra]

Mikko was fast at SS15. Nice.

Sordo -4.3

[Salist]

Sordo won the SS15.

[Kielder]

http://i50.tinypic.com/20sxbud.jpg

[stefanvv]

So, now there are no slight differences, I guess everyone in front should try to walk out and survive

[tolis]

Crugnola 7th fastest! :D

[Kielder]

The Nassers at Monte Carlo Road :D :

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305010_399956366764065_536499518_n.jpg

[noel157]

Nearly 800 viewing the WRC board....

[Kielder]

These ones were taken yesterday:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/59948_408456695908615_1809418830_n.jpg
http://www.rallyliveresults.com/galerie/jo2013_80.jpg
http://www.rallyliveresults.com/galerie/jo2013_32.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/207684_10200280882895202_2091957804_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/735105_10200287288015326_1009061290_n.jpg

[werner]

With Sordo`s stage win on SS15, 7 different drivers were fastest at this Monte.

[Andre Oliveira]

Hope that Juho and Bouffier do more rallyes this season, because without Loeb this season will be insane ;) 5h of a intense rally till now, and no Rally2, thanks ACM and IRC, Monte-Carlo formula is the good one

[dimviii]

will Sordo swap positions with Mikko if have same positions at last stage?

[Salist]

RALLYTHEWORLD.com - Day 1 (http://www.rallytheworld.com/#webisodescontent/ray-and-nick-day-2-rallye-monte-carlo_56_INSTANCE_TGy5DyZcS6dT)

[stefanvv]

will Sordo swap positions with Mikko if have same positions at last stage?

Why should they do that?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Itinerary times:




S16
MOULINET - LA BOLLENE VESUBIE
23.54
17:37
TO RUN


SS17
MOULINET - LA BOLLENE VESUBIE
23.54
21:23
TO RUN


SS18
LANTOSQUE - LUCERAM 2
18.95
22:06
TO RUN

[tolis]

I hope they don't cancel any of the remaining stages...

[Tom206wrc]

Wow !!! This is simply crazy what happens today !!! :crazy:
And I suspect we will still have surprises on SS16, 17 and 18 this evening :mark:

[Andre Oliveira]

Who is next to retire? Or pass to difficulties?

[danon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WYtZrcK7UHU

[seb_sh]

Why should they do that?

Mikko is regarded as the main title contender for Citroen this season. Sordo is quicker on asphalt and Mikko is quicker on gravel and there are more gravel rounds so in theory at least Mikko has a better chance. Also when Loeb is present Sordo is not nominated. But it all depends on what it says in Sordo's contract.

To me it seems like it is a bit early to play team orders.

[Teme]

Why should they do that?
Maybe for the three extra points to the Manufacturers' championship... But Citroën doesn't even need them if their rivals keep crashing :P

[GigiGalliNo1]

So what happened in that video?

[Andre Oliveira]

23,54 Km of pure emotion :) Hope that Ogier close the gap

[stefanvv]

Mikko is regarded as the main title contender for Citroen this season. Sordo is quicker on asphalt and Mikko is quicker on gravel and there are more gravel rounds so in theory at least Mikko has a better chance. Also when Loeb is present Sordo is not nominated. But it all depends on what it says in Sordo's contract.

To me it seems like it is a bit early to play team orders.


Maybe for the three extra points to the Manufacturers' championship... But Citroën doesn't even need them if their rivals keep crashing :P

Yes, I totally forgot the Manufacturer points :D

[Andre Oliveira]

No power stage?

[bt52b]

Brilliant, just when my connection goes down. I miss all that.

[stefanvv]

No power stage?

SS18 is that one (in the dark)

[Martin Luijk]

Is SS16 going live now (like some sites say) or is it live 17 minutes?

[TyPat107]

So what happened in that video?
I think they were chasing a witch. ;)

[stefanvv]

Is SS16 going live now (like some sites say) or is it live 17 minutes?

25 minutes late (as 17 & 18)

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/734332_530620490311140_1029148876_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

Excellent conditions, not hard enough so there must be fog too. I can't imagine the night run

[PLuto]

25 minutes late (as 17 & 18)

SS 16 too

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So what happened in that video?

Hanninen goes off ... but just saves it :) (Day 2 ?)...

Pity he couldnt do the same today. :(

[Salist]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_FuQKCIAAwjG9.jpg:large

Photo: rallytravel.com @rallytravel

[Andre Oliveira]

SS 16 too

He writes well. (ss26) 25 minutes late as 17 and 18 :D

[wrchirek]

Yes, I totally forgot the Manufacturer points :D

If Sordo isn't nominated for manu points, he can't steal manu points from Hirvonen. The Finn should bring 15 points to Citroen even in this position.

[Kielder]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA_FuQKCIAAwjG9.jpg:large

[oyunbozan]

it is interesting to see how fords and VW crashing but none of citroens. is it a mind set situation (like latvala) or car setup, tyres.. i can not understand.

[stefanvv]

If Sordo isn't nominated for manu points, he can't steal manu points from Hirvonen. The Finn should bring 15 points to Citroen even in this position.

You're right actually :) So we go back to "privileged Hirvonen" the whole season long :confused:

[GigiGalliNo1]

So SS17-18 Will run at what time? LATE? Delayed? I will have to wake up at 4am to follow the rally here in Australia!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb will start at 1737, Ogier at 1739. No Novikov, Latvala or Hänninen: Sordo starts 1740, Hirvonen 1744, Østberg 1748...

[WUff1]

So SS17-18 Will run at what time? LATE? Delayed? I will have to wake up at 4am to follow the rally here in Australia!

SSS16-18 will be delayed for 25 min - thats the actual status.

[Teme]

If Sordo isn't nominated for manu points, he can't steal manu points from Hirvonen. The Finn should bring 15 points to Citroen even in this position.
Sordo is nominated for Abu Dhabi Citroën. There's the problem.

[Salist]

Loeb has started on SS16.

[danon]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/734346_420984907977602_171403869_n.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

Sordo is nominated for Abu Dhabi Citroën. There's the problem.

SO like this?

SS16 MOULINET - LA BOLLENE VESUBIE 17:37 +25mins?
SS17 MOULINET - LA BOLLENE VESUBIE 21:23 +25mins?
SS18 LANTOSQUE - LUCERAM 2 22:06 +25mins?

[Salist]

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424258_10151201743690754_1336017578_n.jpg

[dimviii]

it is interesting to see how fords and VW crashing but none of citroens. is it a mind set situation (like latvala) or car setup, tyres.. i can not understand.

drivers.

[Francis44]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/734346_420984907977602_171403869_n.jpg

Quite hard crash.

[werner]

SO like this?

SS16 MOULINET - LA BOLLENE VESUBIE 23.54 17:37+25mins? TO RUN
SS17 MOULINET - LA BOLLENE VESUBIE 23.54 21:23+25mins? TO RUN
SS18 LANTOSQUE - LUCERAM 2 18.95 22:06+25mins? TO RUN

No, SS16 ... 17:37 (running)
SS17 .... 21:23
SS18 .... 22:06

[Mirek]

it is interesting to see how fords and VW crashing but none of citroens. is it a mind set situation (like latvala) or car setup, tyres.. i can not understand.

Loeb, Sordo and Hirvonen are statistically one of the most reliable drivers regardless the car they used. JML and Novikov are on the opposite side of the statistic tables...

[seb_sh]

it is interesting to see how fords and VW crashing but none of citroens. is it a mind set situation (like latvala) or car setup, tyres.. i can not understand.

Latvala, Novikov, Neuville are crash prone, it's not the cars. Citroen chose the more reliable drivers.