Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

[oyunbozan]

each engine create its unique sound.Its something normal.
If you want to create different sound among 2 same engines you can do it with exhaust.Different material,shape,diameter,different silencers etc.
citroen and mini has the same engine block but sounds difference. i heard in a video ds3 made the same sound for a second :) i think they are different because of exhausts. mini has 2 exit.

[spiderem]

Whos gravel crew is Seb Marshall btw?
Who are the gravel crews for the rest of wrc drivers?
i read that :
delecour + giraudet ( what a dream team) for novikov
vouilloz + ? For ogier
gardemeister + ? For latvala
but I have no idea for the rests of the top drivers. If someone has the answer it would be great.

[EightGear]

Isn't Mads' father Ostberg's icecrew?

[Mirek]

citroen and mini has the same engine block but sounds difference. i heard in a video ds3 made the same sound for a second :) i think they are different because of exhausts. mini has 2 exit.

They don't have same block AFAIK. PSA uses EP6CDT only for DS3 R3, 207 R3 and 208 R5 but not for DS3 WRC where they use purpose-built engine which the rules allow.

[dimviii]

They don't have same block AFAIK. PSA uses EP6CDT only for DS3 R3, 207 R3 and 208 R5 but not for DS3 WRC where they use purpose-built engine which the rules allow.

yes it is not a cylinder block from existing citroen car.Created it for ds3 wrc

[dimviii]

Isn't Mads' father Ostberg's icecrew?

thats right

new twiiter from sebmarshall
Seb Marshall ‏@sebmarshall (https://twitter.com/sebmarshall)
Tough tyre choice for the 2 stages. So unexpected to find ice after 20+km of dry tar, but that's what makes this stage so famous! Fab road.

[DonJippo]

Who are the gravel crews for the rest of wrc drivers?
i read that :
delecour + giraudet ( what a dream team) for novikov
vouilloz + ? For ogier
gardemeister + ? For latvala
but I have no idea for the rests of the top drivers. If someone has the answer it would be great.

Toni Gardemeister + Jakke Honkanen for Latvala
Timo Kankkunen + Timo Hantunen for Hirvonen
Lasse Lampi + Pentti Kuukkala for Hänninen

[dimviii]

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing (https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing)
Tyre choice for the afternoon: Citroën & VW = 4 studs + 2 supersoft - Bouffier = 6 studs - Ford = 4 studs and 2 winters

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/734373_199324656873908_81604018_n.jpg

[Georgi]

Interesting tyre choice for Hanninen. 4 winter tyres + 2 studs.
He is risking or ...

[Kielder]

I believe that Seb Marshall & Robert Barrable are working for crew #61 (and for everyone :p ).

[makinen_fan]

Interesting tyre choice for Hanninen. 4 winter tyres + 2 studs.
He is risking or ...

Saving tyres for tomorrow maybe? They will sure use studs tomorrow

[uranium]

... or he knows something ;)

[makinen_fan]

@voiceofrally
Every1 left service with different tyre combos for last 2 stages, no one same, many crossover stud & winter & slick combos, who dares wins!

Who are the brave ones going with soft/supersofts...!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.ralsys.com/irally_admin/news_images/2013HanninenMonteCarloCar132.jpg (http://irallylive.com/ir_news.htm?00002837#)After the morning stage, the Qatar M-Sport team has put out these driver quotes:

Evgeny Novikov (fourth overall / fourth on SS11): "This was a very nice stage – very slippery with very tricky conditions. We weren’t pushing to the maximum on this stage but for sure we will still fight to improve our position. Now we just need to make sure we have a clean run this afternoon and safeguard our tyres for tomorrow.”

Juho Hänninen (seventh overall / sixth on SS11): “The stage was OK. We didn’t make any mistakes, but still it was quite slippery and I was a bit too excited to push on the downhill sections. I just lost the line and was too much sideways which meant we lost the speed. But all in all it was quite OK. “

Mads Østberg (Eighth overall / third on SS11): “I was quite pleased with the opening stage. I think we are definitely learning on Tarmac and then when we got to the snow section towards the end I was able to set some quite good split times."

“We have improved a few things from yesterday and we know a little bit clearer now what we need to do to improve the driving. I need to alter the way I brake into the corners when there is a Tarmac line through the snow, so we’ll keep practising that and work on building up our experience.”

Michelin says Novikov and Østberg have taken 4 studs and 2 winter tyres this afternoon, Hänninen 4 winters 2 studs

[HarriK]

....

[makinen_fan]

Unusual choice by the VW drivers! Risk and fly or risk and bin it !! Lets see whats ahead !

@VolkswagenRally
Tyre choice of Volkswagen drivers for SS12 and SS13: 2 supersoft, 4 studded Michelin @monterallye @SebOgier @JariMattiWRC #WRC

[Mirek]

These two stages were not run for a long time. I guess nobody has a valuable experience with them. That's another interesting fact.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ford co-drivers have spoken with their ice-note crews and amended their notes for SS12 and SS13...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA42vOtCMAAsISX.jpg

[stefanvv]

Unusual choice by the VW drivers! Risk and fly or risk and bin it !! Lets see whats ahead !

@VolkswagenRally
Tyre choice of Volkswagen drivers for SS12 and SS13: 2 supersoft, 4 studded Michelin @monterallye @SebOgier @JariMattiWRC #WRC

Isn't same for Citroen?

[makinen_fan]

Citroen is 4 studs and 2 winter i think

Edit: I am wrong. Michelin says Citroën/VW 4 studs+2 ss, Bouffier 6 studs Novikov/Østberg 4 studs 2 winters Hänninen 4 winters 2 studs

[Kielder]

Any update on weather forecast for Turini? Still snow???

It's said at the service that there's half a meter of snow now.

[dimviii]

Citroen is 4 studs and 2 winter i think

4 studs +2 supersofts

[dimviii]

La loterie des pneus débute "enfin" (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/la-loterie-des-pneus-debute-enfin/)

[A FONDO]

I used the service break to watch the clips from yesterday. What I wonder is, is there something like imbaciles celebrations these days in France? What kind of degenerate you must be to blow these retarded horns all the time when the competitors pass you? This is as ridiculous as making a dog bark while you are listening to your favorite song

[bluuford]

20 minutes ago.. the temperature on elevation 950 meters was around +3.5 degrees. The stage is run on the elevations 600-1100. First part is much more in shade and on the north side of the mountain. middle part more open and opened to the sun and winds. last few corners should be pretty tricky under the forest and on the north side.

[dimviii]

no splits?

[Kielder]

About the tyre choice, you have to read this post on Facebook (there's a video too): 18 janvier 2013 03:43 | Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151364169419030)
It's written in Spanish by a journalist who is at the service. I hope the Google translator helps you, long and hard me to do it. It's worth reading.

[Fly_Half]

didn t say that,must be somebody else mention it.

edit nice photo
http://www.rallimage.fr/images/forum/N_DSC6509.jpg

Nice photo? It's completely out of focus!

@Martijn, I've noticed Andre Lavadinho takes many shots on the liaison sections, always baffled me. Although he is currently the best of the WRC photographers.

[Rally Hokkaido]

The guy is in the stop control. He reports stage was very tricky because one side of the road was always snow and the other side clean tarmac then it would be reversed - made braking very difficult

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Novikov flying again today ! :)

[Georgi]

No split times for Hanninen :(

[spiderem]

Hirvo flying as well???

[Mirek]

@Martijn, I've noticed Andre Lavadinho takes many shots on the liaison sections, always baffled me. Although he is currently the best of the WRC photographers.

Many of us are no professionals or have no technical knowledge of photography. We just like or dislike the shots. Many of us focus more to the action caught by the photographer while the technical quality of the shot is marginal.

[Kielder]

JML at Col de la Machine this morning. What a place!


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151278550813681

[EightGear]

Hirvonen is quick, may take his first stage win.

[darkstar]

wow, novikov fast and hirvonen even faster!

[Georgi]

Mikko fastest!

edit: it's Novikov

[EightGear]

Mikko 2nd.

[makinen_fan]

wrc.com gone mad again!

Stage

Pos
No
Driver
Time
Diff
Prev
Diff
1st


1.
12
M. KOSCIUSZKO
03:32.9
0.0
0.0


2.
5
E. NOVIKOV
15:31.6
+11:58.7
+11:58.7


3.
8
S. OGIER
15:36.0
+4.4
+12:03.1


4.
1
S. LOEB
15:37.0
+1.0
+12:04.1


5.
10
D. SORDO
15:47.6
+10.6
+12:14.7



Overall

Pos
No
Driver

Time
Diff
Prev
Diff
1st


1.
1
S. LOEB
M
3:52:24.0
0.0
0.0


2.
8
S. OGIER
M
3:53:59.3
+1:35.3
+1:35.3


3.
5
E. NOVIKOV
M
3:55:21.6
+1:22.3
+2:57.6


4.
10
D. SORDO
T
3:55:30.2
+8.6
+3:06.2


5.
12
M. KOSCIUSZKO
T
4:06:34.6
+11:04.4
+14:10.6

[Kielder]

Many of us are no professionals or have no technical knowledge of photography. We just like or dislike the shots. Many of us focus more to the action caught by the photographer while the technical quality of the shot is marginal.

For example:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/734285_530124320339767_1687365170_n.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No, Novikov wins the stage !!

[Mintexmemory]

Ok Sordo needs to fight back because if he doesn't then Hirvonen will 'inherit' 4th place to maximise team points.

[A FONDO]

what a disappointing performance from Sordo

[Kielder]

wrc.com gone mad again!


Enjoy photos and videos. Right times will appear in the middle of the next stage :( .

[EightGear]

Juho mixed on snow and studs tyres, saving studs.

[makinen_fan]

@The_Rally_Guru
So far the first 16 kms is dry tarmac in Sisteron. pic.twitter.com/hidSezdZ

[spiderem]

What a rally from novikov so far! Hope he will manage to hold it till the end...

[bluuford]

Stage end was under the forest and more icy.. Mikko lost a huge amount of time to Novikov there

[Georgi]

First stage win for Mads ! Finally

[dimviii]

Ostberg comes fast!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Mads had a big moment, but goes fastest!

[EightGear]

Sisteron:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/50f94859038f4/50f94858f0e0e-sisteron.jpg

[werner]

Sisteron:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/50f94859038f4/50f94858f0e0e-sisteron.jpg

If I remember right to my Sisteron visits, the last part uphill of that road in the wood could be full of snow and ice. That years was boring to watch the cars, because all are using tarmac tyres and on the snow part they struggled a lot with very low speed. But at the end they were faster then those with studded, because a long way asphalt like on that picture.

[Kielder]

Sainz has written on Twitter that they're saving again tyres for tomorrow. Besides, he's uploaded a photo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA5HhPOCYAANAID.jpg:large

[seb_sh]

Sisteron:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/50f94859038f4/50f94858f0e0e-sisteron.jpg

Isn't that where Loeb went off in 2005 or 2006? And then recovered to take 2nd.

And cool photo of Sainz and Loeb, two legends :D

[darkstar]

hope wiegand can fix his electrical problem, a wrc2 win in monte would be awesome. btw, he does quite ok, but would have loved to see how fast he is compared to lappi.

[PLuto]

hope wiegand can fix his electrical problem, a wrc2 win in monte would be awesome. btw, he does quite ok, but would have loved to see how fast he is compared to lappi.

For sure Wiegand is slower, because he is still on the road, but Lappi finished and was able to catch flight home :)

[Mintexmemory]

Amazingly good time for Chardonnet to beat Wiegand!

[Mirek]

Isn't that where Loeb went off in 2005 or 2006? And then recovered to take 2nd.

And cool photo of Sainz and Loeb, two legends :D

Sisteron was run last time in 2002.

[Fly_Half]

Many of us are no professionals or have no technical knowledge of photography. We just like or dislike the shots. Many of us focus more to the action caught by the photographer while the technical quality of the shot is marginal.

You do have a point there Mirek to a certain degree (plus I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to my photos!). But any photographer worth his salt would have deleted that picture.


That video clip above of JML at that hairpin is incredible, must be one of the best places on the whole event to watch.

[Kielder]

Two photos of the snowy section of Sisteron, which starts at 21.2km:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA5QOLzCIAENWE4.jpg:large
http://i45.tinypic.com/hv6rfs.jpg

[Kielder]

Two photos of the snowy section of Sisteron, which starts at 21.2km:



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA5QOLzCIAENWE4.jpg:large

[werner]

Sisteron was run last time in 2002.

My last Sisteron live was in 1999 ... I didnt notice that this stage wasnt run last 10 years!

[Back-N-Black]

Sainz has written on Twitter that they're saving again tyres for tomorrow. Besides, he's uploaded a photo:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA5HhPOCYAANAID.jpg:large

Too bad he dropped out of the Dakar early. What Carlos doing, is he associated with the team this year or just an interested bystander?

[EightGear]

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads6/50f94dd10c588/50f94dd106bae-Sisteron_2.jpg

[tolis]

Great photo!

http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/66493_400910549997616_1849668428_n.jpg

[Mirek]

Too bad he dropped out of the Dakar early. What Carlos doing, is he associated with the team this year or just an interested bystander?

You can see he is wearing VW team clothing ;)

[bjalverud]

Sisteron was run last time in 2002.
and who already won it with 0.5"/km margin ? :)

[Mirek]

and who already won it with 0.5"/km margin ? :)

I don't know from my head but I checked results. Sebastien Loeb :)

[Kielder]

Too bad he dropped out of the Dakar early. What Carlos doing, is he associated with the team this year or just an interested bystander?

Alma mater, test driver, guru, car developer... :)

[bjalverud]

I don't know from my head but I checked results. Sebastien Loeb :)

Sorry, I was not allowed to post the link, too little posts ;-)

[makinen_fan]

Actually it's 1.1km/h per km that he won it! Didn't remember that
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Monte Carlo 2002 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=79&s=1374&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2002)

[Mirek]

Actually it's 1.1km/h per km that he won it! Didn't remember that
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Monte Carlo 2002 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=79&s=1374&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2002)

We usually use seconds per kilometer rather than speed difference because it's more practical :)

[Rally Talent]

Amazingly good time for Chardonnet to beat Wiegand!

Chardonnet is a future champion. Seb the 3rd :)

[Barreis]

Three stages per day suck.:P

[dimviii]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8595/p1340103.jpg

[uranium]

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8595/p1340103.jpg

Very late braking technics ;)

[Kielder]

Photos from Col de la Machine:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8230/8391315369_1dba94a620_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8498/8392401174_2780e3fdbd_b.jpg
http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72916_420415011367925_1743704772_n.jpg

[MartijnS]

Must be one of the most photogenic rallies of the last few years in WRC :)

[bluuford]

56 cars finished the stage 10
56 cars finished the stage 11
56 cars finished the stage 12
Everybody like to go to the Turini? :-)

[kimiryan]

Does anybody know what happened to JML ,He always lost the time in the end of one stage (If the split is right),It's amazing for not once ,four or five times,
That's incredible

[Kielder]

Must be one of the most photogenic rallies of the last few years in WRC :)

Can't wait until certain torrent! :D

[bjalverud]

56 cars finished the stage 10
56 cars finished the stage 11
56 cars finished the stage 12
Everybody like to go to the Turini? :-)

No more qualification system for Turini night like in the old days however ;-)

[dimviii]

just made a coffee,sat in my armchair,closed the mobile,closed television,sent my wife for super-market.
Sisteron time. :D

[Georgi]

and you are listening to the WRC radio and following the splits ?! :)

[dimviii]

and you are listening to the WRC radio and following the splits ?! :)

how did you guess it? :D

[dimviii]

Ogier at ss12 stop
“It’s quite difficult especially because Loeb had dragged snow onto the road in the cuts. I hope I put more snow on the road for the others!”
:dozey:

[serial jeff]

Ogier at ss12 stop
“It’s quite difficult especially because Loeb had dragged snow onto the road in the cuts. I hope I put more snow on the road for the others!”
:dozey:

There's the sportsmanlike gentleman I'm so fond of. ;)

[stefanvv]

Ogier at ss12 stop
“It’s quite difficult especially because Loeb had dragged snow onto the road in the cuts. I hope I put more snow on the road for the others!”
:dozey:

(thinking for those with 4 studs, or cutting even more than Loeb:confused :)

[dimviii]

There's the sportsmanlike gentleman I'm so fond of. ;)

yesterday plenty of mates here said that journalists, forced him due to asked him at every stage about his times to Loeb.....

[Georgi]

The splits are a MESS

[darkstar]

ogier is just honest...

[Mintexmemory]

No more qualification system for Turini night like in the old days however ;-)
Yes there was - 60 cars max, just that there aren't that many running so everyone gets in!

[stefanvv]

Looks like Sordo is trying to return to the game

[Bartek]

Novikov losing a lot

[dimviii]

Sordo 11 sec faster from Novikov at split 2

[Mintexmemory]

Sordo looking to retake 3rd

[stefanvv]

What happens to Novikov :confused:

[EightGear]

Sordo has softs, Novikov doesn't.

[dimviii]

14,5 faster from Novikov now.

[Hartusvuori]

Thierry Neuville ‏@thierryneuville (https://twitter.com/thierryneuville)
Listen to World Rally Radio @Becsywecsy (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy) and @voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally) from my home. Very sad not taking part anymore on this rally. Hard time for myself.



Tough times, indeed.

[stefanvv]

Latvala going fast here

[dimviii]

Novikov at split 4 is already 12 sec back at generalclassification.Lets see at the end of stage

[Bartek]

The only good thing so far is the radio , always at a high level :)

[Georgi]

Novikov is the biggest loser in this stage so far.
Interesting to see if the other Fords will lose that much as well.
Just Hanninen from the Fords with different tyre strategy.

[dimviii]

ogier + 12,4 from Master at split 7.

[Georgi]

Loeb will definitely win this stage.

[dimviii]

Novikov is the biggest loser in this stage so far.
Interesting to see if the other Fords will lose that much as well.
Just Hanninen from the Fords with different tyre strategy.

lets see till stage end,the snow-ice ruts are at the end if i remember correct.

[stefanvv]

ogier + 12,4 from Master at split 7.

Stalled at hairpin

[Georgi]

ogier + 12,4 from Master at split 7.

Stalled the engine at hairpin

[rage82]

lets see till stage end,the snow-ice ruts are at the end if i remember correct.

There are some ice and snow between 21km and 26 km

[Mintexmemory]

Take it Novikov is set up for the ice not the tarmac
Latvala about to demote Hirvonen

[EightGear]

Novikov faster than Sordo now!

[Mirek]

lets see till stage end,the snow-ice ruts are at the end if i remember correct.

Ice is from km 21 to 26 approximately.

[SashaIF]

Novikov find speed again!

[pettersolberg29]

Novikov pushing hard on the snow and ice to make up time. Hopefully he won't lose it in the last few kms where it's dry again.

[seb_sh]

Novikov probably set up for ice, I think Sordo can catch him on the final part.

[dimviii]

Latvala very fast

[jparker]

Who is going to take this one? Latvala or Novikov?

[EightGear]

Latvala will pass Hirvonen.

[dimviii]

Who is going to take this one? Latvala or Novikov?
No Novikov

[stefanvv]

Latvala will pass Hirvonen.

With lot

[Mirek]

The ice strategy of Novikov didn't work.

[Viking]

Not to many splits from Østberg...

[Kielder]

Sordo less than two seconds behind Novikov at the end of the day. It will be better for the Spaniard to start 4th tomorrow, knowing Novikov's splits (if they work).

[seb_sh]

Mikko surprisingly bad this rally. Beaten by far by all of the title rivals.

[Mintexmemory]

Latvala will pass Hirvonen.

Not bad for an accident-prone driver in an unproven machine :)

[Mintexmemory]

Mikko surprisingly bad this rally. Beaten by far by all of the title rivals.
Except Ostberg and (yet to see if he gets the full season) Hanninen - small crumb of comfort for Mikko fans

[PanosB]

Solberg in the fiesta would be top 3 easily

[Bartek]

DMACK are so bad or Prokop is doing everything what he can? I expected a bit more from him...

[Mintexmemory]

Solberg in the fiesta would be top 3 easily

No he would have crashed on day 1! His 9 Monte starts reads 4 ret, 1 7th 2 6th 1 5th and 1 3rd (last year). Not Petter's star event by any means.

[stefanvv]

DMACK are so bad or Prokop is doing everything what he can? I expected a bit more from him...

I might guess the first

[pettersolberg29]

Except Ostberg and (yet to see if he gets the full season) Hanninen - small crumb of comfort for Mikko fans

Ostberg isn't really a title rival though. This rally has just confirmed my belief that he's simply not good enough to be a factory driver yet - yes you shouldn't judge him on a rally he has never competed on before, but his pace has been really poor throughout except one or two stages. Anyone who thinks Solberg or JML would be worse in the same car is simply wrong!

Anyway sorry, that's an off-topic. Still very impressed by Novikov though, and Juho looking good at times too bearing in mind he's never driven the car before!

[PanosB]

and for sure not 8 and 6+mins on loeb on the second day of the rally........

[Mirek]

Solberg in the fiesta would be top 3 easily

What makes You so sure? His past attempts in Monte Carlo were rather unsuccessful. From those recent in 2011 he was clearly slower than Hänninen, last year than Sordo in Mini. Also almost in every attempt he had some offs or crashes...

[Mintexmemory]

What makes You so sure? His past attempts in Monte Carlo were rather unsuccessful. In 2011 he was clearly slower than Hänninen, last year than Sordo...

I didn't count the IRC event. Just 9 WRC starts on Monte

[EightGear]

Ostberg isn't really a title rival though. This rally has just confirmed my belief that he's simply not good enough to be a factory driver yet - yes you shouldn't judge him on a rally he has never competed on before, but his pace has been really poor throughout except one or two stages. Anyone who thinks Solberg or JML would be worse in the same car is simply wrong!

Anyway sorry, that's an off-topic. Still very impressed by Novikov though, and Juho looking good at times too bearing in mind he's never driven the car before!

Then I guess you think Hirvonen is not derserving his factory seat too?

[PanosB]

What makes You so sure? His past attempts in Monte Carlo were rather unsuccessful. From those recent in 2011 he was clearly slower than Hänninen, last year than Sordo in Mini. Also almost in every attempt he had some offs or crashes...

Experience... that what counts in Monte

[pettersolberg29]

What makes You so sure? His past attempts in Monte Carlo were rather unsuccessful. From those recent in 2011 he was clearly slower than Hänninen, last year than Sordo in Mini. Also almost in every attempt he had some offs or crashes...

I don't agree that Solberg would be top 3 here necessarily, though I'd say that if he hadn't crashed then he'd certainly be much nearer to Loeb than Ostberg is. We can only tell by the end of the year whether promoting Ostberg to the factory team was a good idea, but I'm still sceptical.

[Mintexmemory]

Experience... that what counts in Monte

Not to mention lots of spectators to push you back on the road and a big snow shovel!! ;)

[Jajá]

and for sure not 8 and 6+mins on loeb on the second day of the rally........

Let's not forget he got a 1m50 penalty.. without that, he would be fighting with the finns...

[pettersolberg29]

Then I guess you think Hirvonen is not derserving his factory seat too?

No because Mikko has proven enough in the past - it's just this hasn't been his event. Even so, he's still 2 minutes ahead of Ostberg! Even if a lot of that is penalties, it's still the cumulative time that counts.

[PanosB]

Then I guess you think Hirvonen is not derserving his factory seat too?

Absolutely not!!!!!

[Mirek]

Experience... that what counts in Monte

Experience says he rarely achieved a great result in RMC.


I don't agree that Solberg would be top 3 here necessarily, though I'd say that if he hadn't crashed then he'd certainly be much nearer to Loeb than Ostberg is. We can only tell by the end of the year whether promoting Ostberg to the factory team was a good idea, but I'm still sceptical.

If he hadn't crashed... maybe...

[Bartek]

This is just a one rally, last year Solberg had everything what he wanted and he didn't make anything good. So far, Hirvo is biggest disappointment, he tested a lot (maybe most of the team) and like we see he is slooow.

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/537025_4764680309657_853648617_n.jpg

[PanosB]

ok Guys ..

Apart from Loeb who is in a league of his own and he is the best ever next is Ogier and Petter.
you all mention that he crashed all the time and yet another driver with half Petters years in the WRC and maybe double the crashes has a factory seat and is tipped to be the world champ just because Malcolm Wilson always spoke highly of him.

Petter should have A FACTORY DRIVE THIS YEAR! period

[Mintexmemory]

Now the big question for tomorrow is Novikov, Sordo, Latvala - who has got the best black circular items still in the truck? Another 5 stages like the last 1 and it could be a very exciting time late on Saturday night. I wouldn't be surprised if Latvala and Ogier have been running different tyre strategies to ensure the team had at least one car in contention at all times. We shall see...

[WRC1]

5 stages to go! nothing is decided...if weather prediction is right loeb will be snowplug tomorrow....fight for podium will be thrilling, 1 minute between novikov, sordo, latvala and hirvonen, i am afraid juho is out of this fight :(

my tip: loeb-ogier-sordo-latvala-novikov-hirvonen

[pettersolberg29]

Petter should have A FACTORY DRIVE THIS YEAR! period

Let's not turn this into a Petter fanboy debate. My issue is that Ostberg isn't good enough to be a lead factory driver, not that Petter doesn't have a seat. But both these debates should be in a different thread.

[stefanvv]

Yes, don't exclude Latvala from podium yet, it is Turini time tomorrow :bounce:

[Mintexmemory]

ok Guys ..

Apart from Loeb who is in a league of his own and he is the best ever next is Ogier and Petter.
you all mention that he crashed all the time and yet another driver with half Petters years in the WRC and maybe double the crashes has a factory seat and is tipped to be the world champ just because Malcolm Wilson always spoke highly of him.

Petter should have A FACTORY DRIVE THIS YEAR! period

Hey who mentioned JML!! - his record isn't up for debate at the moment, I call that unnecessary mud-slinging. If that's the way this is going I suggest you look at % wins from no of starts :p

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582708_10200417813596842_808953796_n.jpg

[Mirek]

4:16 hours of driving and still one leg to go!

[Kielder]

Cheer up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=em7DYUT-D00

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Happy with at least 1 stage win today for the Fords (a 1-2 on SS12) but I wonder why they are so inconsistant ?

Mads: "It was very dirty...I had a very bad moment in there...but I found a new set up on the car."

Lets hope the new set-up works tomorrow... :)

[Kielder]

Nice to see all the drivers at these famous hairpins before the village of Lachamp-Raphael:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_8AX2Dk-W0Q#!

[Kielder]

These onboards are the only ones that I've found. Thanks to Thierry Dard and Laurent Pasquion :) .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iirzaEOZ-3U

Burzet: rallye monte carlo 2013 burzet saint martial es2 thierry dard et laurent pasquion 1 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IvOinNfVFg)

[Georgi]

Cheer up!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=em7DYUT-D00

Is there a video with him from the puncture or the accident that caused the retirement?

[danon]

DMACK are so bad or Prokop is doing everything what he can? I expected a bit more from him...

... wasting money.

[uranium]

... wasting money.

Enjoing.

But you just envy him

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice to see all the drivers at these famous hairpins before the village of Lachamp-Raphael:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_8AX2Dk-W0Q#!

Excellent vid - great to see so many different cars, especially the various Subaru's and Evo's racing each other, and compare them to the WRC cars... :)

[danon]

Must be one of the most photogenic rallies of the last few years in WRC :)

Spot on, mate!!!!!!!!

[PLuto]

It is curious, but nobody retired today. Maybe that no rally 2 is not do bad idea...

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mfk689w4N3k

I believe the start of the above video was recorded at the same place that the photo below was taken (someone asked about the photo in the forum, I can't remember who). It could be the road before Saint Andeol de Fourchades, a few kilometres after Lachamp-Raphael.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2h7phk9.jpg

[Mirek]

It is curious, but nobody retired today. Maybe that no rally 2 is not do bad idea...

Also only one retirement among WRC after a millage of normal WRC event. It shows the argument about nobody on stages to watch without superally have no relevant basis. It may be opposite that with SR crews take more risky approach than without it.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UBWFt718VlI

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/408545_538366449521304_1999993285_n.jpg

[Mirek]

Which stage is it? The car doesn't seem to be driven so slowly on road section... Sisteron or Saint Nazaire?

[werner]

Which stage is it? The car doesn't seem to be driven so slowly on road section... Sisteron or Saint Nazaire?

I dont remember a place like this at Sisteron. Except there is another route this year as in past.

They dont go through Clue d`Aiglun this year?

[Mirek]

It's probably road section again.

[Sardalense]

Which stage is it? The car doesn't seem to be driven so slowly on road section... Sisteron or Saint Nazaire?

D135 - Google Maps (http://goo.gl/maps/pfZ8g)

Saint Nazaire, near the village Chalançon.

[Kielder]

Which stage is it? The car doesn't seem to be driven so slowly on road section... Sisteron or Saint Nazaire?

It's St Nazaire :) .

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1933102&l=1a407631d2&id=347063535318264

[Rallyper]

Unfortunately, only two days to come.... :(

Sorry, must have been looking at 2012 itenary on ACCM website... :o

[Back-N-Black]

ok Guys ..

Apart from Loeb who is in a league of his own and he is the best ever next is Ogier and Petter.
you all mention that he crashed all the time and yet another driver with half Petters years in the WRC and maybe double the crashes has a factory seat and is tipped to be the world champ just because Malcolm Wilson always spoke highly of him.

Petter should have A FACTORY DRIVE THIS YEAR! period

I miss Petter!

[stefanvv]

Also only one retirement among WRC after a millage of normal WRC event. It shows the argument about nobody on stages to watch without superally have no relevant basis. It may be opposite that with SR crews take more risky approach than without it.

Also the split problems made the Rally more interesting, one good side of this :)

[Kielder]

The quantity of studded tyres left is the point:

Jost Capito: “From the first day we’ve asked them to conserve their studded tyres on the asphalt sections – if you look at the split times you’ll see that they were pretty slow, so they did exactly what we asked them to do. I won’t tell you exactly what we have left, but I think that we are in an acceptable, if not ideal position for tomorrow,”

Yves Matton: “The number of new studded tyres we have depends on the drivers; some have four, some less and some more. It’s not the optimum, because for sure we don’t have enough to do all the stages with new tyres, but the second hand ones we have seem to be in good condition. If we manage well we can achieve our goal.”

Christian Loriaux: “We don’t have too many but I think everybody here is in the same boat. Okay, we’re getting a bit short but fortunately we’re allowed to re-use and we have a fair few that are undamaged. Like everybody we will not have all new tyres but we will have reasonably decent ones with studs so I think the fight will be fair.”

[oyunbozan]

They don't have same block AFAIK. PSA uses EP6CDT only for DS3 R3, 207 R3 and 208 R5 but not for DS3 WRC where they use purpose-built engine which the rules allow.
it should be in s2000 regulations. no time to digg at the moment but somehow it should be partly production engine.

[amilk]

Also only one retirement among WRC after a millage of normal WRC event. It shows the argument about nobody on stages to watch without superally have no relevant basis. It may be opposite that with SR crews take more risky approach than without it.

Look last year Sardinia and some other hard gravel rally - it could be different.

[amilk]

Any wheather news about Turini?

[bluuford]

Any wheather news about Turini?
I will give a little update near the midnight. Currently temperature below 0 starting from the elevation 900m (Turini stage is 800m-1600 a.s.l). No snowfall yet

[danon]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/408545_538366449521304_1999993285_n.jpg


Which stage is it? The car doesn't seem to be driven so slowly on road section... Sisteron or Saint Nazaire?

How did You detect the speed... virtual speed gun or "Seventh Sense" :D

[COD]

About splits: Latvala made a comment on finnish site: "we had radio trouble, so I didn't get splits and didn't know what speed to drive."
THIS IS RALLY, YOU SHOULD DRIVE AS FAST AS YOU CAN, MORON!

[rallye-sport]

Update Photos SS11 + SS12 Photos Rallye Monte-Carlo 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-monte-carlo-2013/)


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/vialatte_aurelien_51.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_6078.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/valence-monte-carlo-2013/img_9483.jpg

[Hartusvuori]

How did You detect the speed... virtual speed gun or "Seventh Sense" :D

If you'd first take a closer look at the car's position before jumping into a troll's role, you would not have to second guess Mirek's assumption.

[stefanvv]

About splits: Latvala made a comment on finnish site: "we had radio trouble, so I didn't get splits and didn't know what speed to drive."
THIS IS RALLY, YOU SHOULD DRIVE AS FAST AS YOU CAN!

You found the completely wrong driver to critic wheter he should drive fast (and often beyond)

[OldF]

it should be in s2000 regulations. no time to digg at the moment but somehow it should be partly production engine.

Citroen has a purpose-designed engine.

About the engine from 5:28

WRC - Citroën DS3 WRC - La genèse - The story (English subtitles) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB5YFONFJEY&feature=player_embedded)

[OldF]

About splits: Latvala made a comment on finnish site: "we had radio trouble, so I didn't get splits and didn't know what speed to drive."
THIS IS RALLY, YOU SHOULD DRIVE AS FAST AS YOU CAN, MORON!

Moron is the one who calls another a moron.

[Rallyper]

How did You detect the speed... virtual speed gun or "Seventh Sense" :D

Not hard. The angle of steering wheel (left) meters before the bend. Mirek knows what he´s talking about.

[stefanvv]

Virtual Rally driver knows these things by heart :D

[stefanvv]

Moron is the one who calls another a moron.

Moron? What's that word, I completely ignored it :D But basically you're 100% correct

[Back-N-Black]

Moron? What's that word, I completely ignored it :D But basically you're 100% correct

Noun 1. moron - a person of subnormal intelligence

You guys have no sense of humor, I'm sure he was joking!

[stefanvv]

Noun 1. moron - a person of subnormal intelligence

You guys have no sense of humor, I'm sure he was joking!

Joking? Ok, but may be the problem is Latvala is not crashing

[Mirek]

it should be in s2000 regulations. no time to digg at the moment but somehow it should be partly production engine.

That was in 2.0 NA S2000 regulations. 1.6T S2000 (WRC) regulations allow to build a "world engine" from scratch like in WTCC.

[Mirek]

Virtual Rally driver knows these things by heart :D

Hey, I didn't play a single tournament in Richard Burns Rally since 22nd September 2009 (just checked the website) :)

[dimviii]

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/9939/img18411.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550392_10151200214090754_1045890477_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/408562_296519320451706_1985917023_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

Hey, I didn't play a single tournament in Richard Burns Rally since 22nd September 2009 (just checked the website) :)

Ok :) , I didn't meant only games anyway

[dimviii]

http://imageshack.us/a/img594/9674/montecarlosisteron01.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img838/3535/montecarlosisteron03.jpghttp://imageshack.us/a/img600/4347/montecarlosisteron08.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/cho_dsc_8523.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/cho_mc%20(5).jpg

more photos
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=5887&fotograf=270

[Juha_Koo]

Hey, I didn't play a single tournament in Richard Burns Rally since 22nd September 2009 (just checked the website) :)

How were you able to quit RBR? :-P

[Rallyper]

I´m thinking of the Polos´ handling in RMC.

Am I the only one thinking the car is way oversteerd. Why is that? Is the car not steering in to bends properly? So the drivers have to oversteer before with sliding as a result?

Or is the rear suspension to hard making the car sliding more than the others?

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/grr_img_2505.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2013/grr_img_2396.jpg
eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 Greg Roslon (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=5887&fotograf=100)

[dimviii]

I´m thinking of the Polos´ handling in RMC.

Am I the only one thinking the car is way oversteerd. Why is that? Is the car not steering in to bends properly? So the drivers have to oversteer before with sliding as a result?

Or is the rear suspension to hard making the car sliding more than the others?

Per is not the same at both polos.Latvalas polo is way more oversteered but imho this is by his driving style

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=UBWFt718VlI

[stefanvv]

Per is not the same at both polos.Latvalas polo is way more oversteered but imho this is by his driving style

He also played with car's setup last 2 days, perhaps there is the difference mostly.

[pucky54]

He also played with car's setup last 2 days, perhaps there is the difference mostly.

He has to, he is missing kms in the car compared to Ogier ;)

[dimviii]

what a photo!!
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/601086_145508095604714_362884724_n.jpg

[Jeppe]

He also played with car's setup last 2 days, perhaps there is the difference mostly.

He also said in the Finnish TV interview that "I have gone to wrong direction with the set-ups". It was recorded after todays stages in Monaco.

[Mirek]

what a photo!!

The amazing Sisteron town. Start of stage is somewhere to the left behind the bridge I think.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_86b5aecef6.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_f4b16a0f68.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_fed326b9fb.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1115/1115_rally_monte_carlo_2013_e19ecdfce3.jpg

More photos from DAY3 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1115)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ford drivers end of Day 3:

Evgeny Novikov (3rd) said:
“Today has been a good day and of course I am very happy with the position at the moment. Tomorrow we have another five stages so we will have to see what the weather will be, but for the moment we are happy. “I think it is better for me if it is fully dry or full snow. We still have some difficulties in the mixed conditions, but it is not so bad. We are gaining a lot of experience and that is the most important thing. “Yes, this is only my second year and I am doing quite well, but it is difficult to explain exactly why. I am here to fight and achieve good results – that is all I try to do on every rally.”


Juho Hänninen (7th) said: “Today has been OK. We went on the safe side with the tyres because I want to save some new studs for tomorrow if it snows as the weather is suggesting. I am quite happy with my driving and I feel as though we are learning more and more each stage. “Thanks again to the team because the car has been perfect all rally.”


Mads Østberg (8th) said: “We made some more changes to the car in service and that worked a lot better for me this afternoon. We had a stage win [SS12] which was really good – it felt like everything just came together for us on that stage. To be honest I think we just calmed down and started again – that’s where the confidence has come from. “We had a lot of discussions with our engineer last night so we knew what to do and understood what was necessary to go faster. Instantly it worked, and that was a good thing for sure. “I think we had a really good run on the last stage as well but we were on the wrong tyres. I have certainly learnt a lot more about driving on Tarmac with snow tyres and I think we are progressing well in all areas. Hopefully we can continue to improve tomorrow.”


Team Principal, Malcolm Wilson OBE said: “It’s been another fantastic day for the team. It is especially pleasing to see that all of our drivers have now had a fastest time. We have a big team and the fact that all of them are capable of recording stage wins just goes to prove how competitive the Fiesta [RS WRC] is and certainly bodes well for the rest of the season. “It is also good to see how all three drivers have adapted to what have been some of the most difficult Monte conditions for many years – I certainly haven’t seen conditions as tricky as this for a long time!”

[Gard]

About splits: Latvala made a comment on finnish site: "we had radio trouble, so I didn't get splits and didn't know what speed to drive."
THIS IS RALLY, YOU SHOULD DRIVE AS FAST AS YOU CAN, MORON!

You really don't understand rallyiing, do you? Following ypur plan, you would probably have to drive on your rims the last day

[stefanvv]

http://www.laola1.tv/de/int/motorsport/rallye/rallye-monte-carlo-stage-11/video/492--109061.html

[dimviii]

http://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2013/01/18/130118101654443361.jpghttp://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2013/01/18/130118101608247182.jpghttp://nsa30.casimages.com/img/2013/01/18/130118102646976725.jpg

[tolis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZfK4IiEfU

[stefanvv]

...

Not the best quality, but amazing scenery :)

[Co-driven]

What's this thing that Prokop's co-driver has on the arm?

http://i45.tinypic.com/6prwy9.jpg

[PLuto]

Start list into day 4 - Rallye Monte Carlo 2013 - Start order - leg 4 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/rallye-monte-carlo-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=273)

[Mirek]

What's this thing that Prokop's co-driver has on the arm?

Michal Ernst suffered a serious injury in March 2012 in an accident in Valašská rally. He had a terrible opened fracture of that arm.

By the way Martin Prokop started to use the Simpson Hybrid HANS this year.

[danon]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/166542_10151235838577057_1360401497_n.jpg


Imagine some of the big icicles falling on Your front screen!

Another classic case of negative thinking.
Half full or half empty...
The brave ones will make it through, the rest... You guess!

Great pic anyway!

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZfK4IiEfU

@Μirek
@ 2,39 is the point with the photo you were asking.


https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/184669_331364943636567_1208769872_n.jpg

[TMorel]

wish I'd had that when I got my arm trapped between the cage and the door during an off. Elbows aren't as squidgy as I expected :'(

Or maybe Prokop is inspired by Gigi and gets a bit fistycuffsy so he's wearing padding ready for a sparring session

[Mirek]

Efcharisto, dimviii :) The photo of Prokop in the tunnel is in my opinion on St. Jean en Royans stage.

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CHxepmb57tg

[Mirek]

wish I'd had that when I got my arm trapped between the cage and the door during an off. Elbows aren't as squidgy as I expected :'(

Or maybe Prokop is inspired by Gigi and gets a bit fistycuffsy so he's wearing padding ready for a sparring session

There has been a several years long discussion about HANS here including a petition against its mandatory use. You know there has been a large number of back injuries in last couple of years which were uncommon in the past. Even in WRC Dennis Kuipers, Ilka Minor and several others suffered broken lumbar vertebrae. In the IRC it was Guy Wilks for example. Here drivers association asked several doctors and they made a statement that especially in case of impact from the bottom the usually used form of HANS transform too much force into the strain of lower back and therefore can cause a fracture in the S-shape of the spine. Of course often it's caused by wrong HANS size or angle of the collar or wrong seat size, loose belts etc. Another factor is if there are normal belts used or those with helper stripes for HANS fixation. The Simpson Hybrid HANS shall not cause this transformation of vertical load into lumbar spine.

[bluuford]

Weather for tomorrow.

It just started to snow on both stages (very lightly at the moment). However, snow in SS15/18 turns soon to rain and soon the snow from the stage should dissapear. Temperature on those two stages will be +1..+4 during their runs. there will be medium and heavy rain that turns very heavy during the powerstage

Turini stage. temperature will be between +2.. and -3 during the whole three runs.it should snow on all elevations right now. medium to heavy snow continues whole day and turns very heavy tomorrow eavning (maybe just after the last stage - too late). I dont see 50 cm coming before the end of rally stages (maybe 20 cm).. but by Sunday evening it can be 50 cms, maybe.
At around 10-11 it should change from snow to rain on lower elevations. however, It continues to snow on the most of the stage. SS16 will be difficult tomorow.. with studded tyres from celan stage to snowy..

[tfp]

Nice to see Novikov climbing the ladder! But what is going on with Sordo? I know Monte is a bit of a lottery of a rally but dani used to be THE tarmac specialist behind Loeb.

[MartijnS]

Probably has something to do with the white stuff on top of the tarmac.

[stefanvv]

Probably has something to do with the white stuff on top of the black stuff.

That's better :)

[dimviii]

Mirek i found your new screensaver :D
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8236/8393738370_ff7c58e54d_c.jpg

[Kielder]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230687_10200309882937558_874564823_n.jpg
http://cdn-5.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/1500000/1500000/1503000/1503500/1503545/s1_1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA68ijsCUAEMHjN.jpg:large
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/321310_542603889097727_694063513_n.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8390890086_eed88c1b7a_b.jpg

[Kielder]

http://ms-photo.e-monsite.com/medias/album/dsc-9453.jpg
http://www.autopista.es/media/cache/article_big/upload/images/imagegallery/imagegallery-39124-50f990f35c0d5.jpg
http://www.autopista.es/media/cache/article_big/upload/images/imagegallery/imagegallery-39124-50f990f41b1ca.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BA6OpafCMAAxtca.jpg:large
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/CMP/WRC/saison_2013/Monte_Carlo/2013_01_18/VW-WRC13-01-RB-1198.jpg

[stefanvv]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230687_10200309882937558_874564823_n.jpg


That's very effective engine cooling :D

[danon]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/CMP/WRC/saison_2013/Monte_Carlo/2013_01_18/VW-WRC13-01-RB-1198.jpg

@Mirek - imagine if the meltdown has just began what would've happened...

[tfp]

Probably has something to do with the white stuff on top of the tarmac.

Fair point haha!

[danon]

Mirek i found your new screensaver :D
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8236/8393738370_ff7c58e54d_c.jpg

Is that Mirek at the background holding the over-speed gun... pull over!!! :colour:

[Kielder]

http://i46.tinypic.com/xqja4p.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8079/8389687323_c901c50fbd_b.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/2moovpg.jpg

[danon]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xwvg4o_citroen-wrc-2013-rallye-monte-carlo-jour-3_sport?search_algo=2#.UPnz8yd9J8E

[irish_tiger]

ok Guys ..

Apart from Loeb who is in a league of his own and he is the best ever next is Ogier and Petter.
you all mention that he crashed all the time and yet another driver with half Petters years in the WRC and maybe double the crashes has a factory seat and is tipped to be the world champ just because Malcolm Wilson always spoke highly of him.

Petter should have A FACTORY DRIVE THIS YEAR! period

For what his past results ? when was the last time he won a WRC Round ?

[danon]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/72285_451875781545400_2129121499_n.jpg

10th WRC title on its way :champion:

[pettersolberg29]

Good photo, but not sure what to correct first about that sentence ;) haha firstly it's a photo from 2012, and secondly there is zero chance he'll win a 10th title unless there is a cataclysmic set of retirements in every rally!

[Plan9]

Why is Kosciuszko so slow?

[danon]

Liked the photo. No year mentioned. You never know.

[rallye-vid]

Why is Kosciuszko so slow?

Because:

A - his Mini sux
B - he is a slow driver

[Kielder]

http://www.15min.lt/images/photos/616246/big/jevgenijus-novikovas-50f92b5a79c5d.jpg
http://motor.as.com/motor/imagenes/2013/01/19/mas_motor/1358556329_747478_1358556422_noticia_grande.jpg
http://www.lepopulaire.fr/photoSRC/W1ZTJ1FdUTgIBhVOGwYSHgYNQDUVGFdfVV9FWkM-/conditions-extremes_977171.jpeg
http://i50.tinypic.com/160emom.jpg

[danon]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/08/09/80961x50f9d53bdb.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/08/09/80963x50f9d54bd9.jpg

[PLuto]

Because:

A - his Mini sux
B - he is a slow driver

You forgot two points:

C - he is using DMacks
D - other drivers are faster :D :rolleyes:

[Kielder]

Sordo has said that he wants to be on the podium, but the team has asked him to finish. Besides, he has revealed that he's run out of studded tyres, while Seb still has two new.

[danon]

Sordo has it all to win it all.